WEBVTT - One on One: Jonathan Spencer

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<v Speaker 1>I am all in.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you. I Am all in with Scott Patterson an

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one

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<v Speaker 1>eleven productions, iHeart Radio, iHeartMedia, iHeart Podcast. One on one

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<v Speaker 1>interview with none other than Jonathan Spencer. He's been in

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<v Speaker 1>five Gilmour episodes, playing various roles. He played a customer,

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<v Speaker 1>hot dog vendor, and then in season seven he got

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<v Speaker 1>credit as Bill. Jonathan is also a musician and before

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<v Speaker 1>he started acting, he was a casting director.

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome Jonathan Spencer. Welcome to the show. How are you, Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm great, Thanks so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to see Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you. A casting director.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it in the Southeast. I did like the

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<v Speaker 2>backwards thing, so I went behind the wizard first, behind

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<v Speaker 2>the curtain to see how it all worked. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was less intimidated when I stepped out on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that amazing how that works? Yeah, so let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into this a little bit. So you said you had

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<v Speaker 1>a good story on how you ended up on Gilmore Girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I moved I moved out to LA from

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta with all the hopes and dreams in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and three that everyone moves out to LA with. And

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<v Speaker 2>I slowly worked my way in and got some commercial

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<v Speaker 2>work pretty quickly. I had been working as a free

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<v Speaker 2>assistant and a talent agency, just answering phones and learning

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<v Speaker 2>how it all went. And they sent me out on

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<v Speaker 2>a local Yokol Rene car brand X commercials do this

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<v Speaker 2>rent a car guy who's going to compete with Hurts

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<v Speaker 2>and script and save rent a car? And I booked it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that ended up being a number of spots and

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<v Speaker 2>I got some heat with that, but I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get on episodic TV to save my life. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>workshopping and trying to meet people and trying to get there,

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually I got the call from Gilmore Girls to

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<v Speaker 2>go in for none other than customer number four. And

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't have been more excited, to tell you the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like the best day of my life. And

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<v Speaker 2>so all nerves and walking in onto the WB backlot

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<v Speaker 2>there in the Midwest lot, and I go into the

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<v Speaker 2>little house that's casting, and I go into the sign

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<v Speaker 2>in sheet and I've got my line memorized, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>practicing for three days. Cobbs sallad new avocado, no bacon,

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<v Speaker 2>Italian dressing on the side, don't get those words wrong, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And sure enough at the sign in sheet, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>placard right over the sign in that shit that says,

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<v Speaker 2>we hear at Gilmore girls are word for word, Please

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<v Speaker 2>do not improv, ad lib nor button the scene, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we love you actors. And I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well that just answers all my anxieties and now I

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<v Speaker 2>know what to do. So I was like, that really

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<v Speaker 2>made me comfortable to know that, like that was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the way things went, and from my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>that was how it was going to be on network,

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<v Speaker 2>TV everywhere. So I walk into the callback and of

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<v Speaker 2>course Amy schrim Palladino I lucked out. She happen to

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<v Speaker 2>be directing that first episode that I was in and

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<v Speaker 2>was at the callback, so it was like that that

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<v Speaker 2>was good karma there.

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<v Speaker 1>And.

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<v Speaker 2>All that went well. I got cast. I show up

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<v Speaker 2>on set for Customer number four. We're in your diner

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<v Speaker 2>at five point thirty in the morning and we do

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<v Speaker 2>the circle up little circle where she stood in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle and just pointed at everybody and had everybody run

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<v Speaker 2>their line kind of in a circle while while everybody's wild,

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<v Speaker 2>camera's still setting up and all that jazz. We hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>even been to hair and makeup yet. And she points

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<v Speaker 2>to everybody in the line and I can count how

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<v Speaker 2>many people before they get to customer number in his line,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm all nervous, I better save this live. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to repeat my line correctly, and she

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<v Speaker 2>eventually gets to rounds, gets around to me and says, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your name? And I go customer number four? Because no,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your name? I'm sorry, Jonathan Jonathan and Jonathan Spencer, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your line? Just calmed down, it's gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that kind of little green defacy error

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<v Speaker 2>of my name is customer number four kind of endeared

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<v Speaker 2>me to her a little bit, and that's what made

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<v Speaker 2>me come back as the next time I was costumer

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<v Speaker 2>number one because it was misspelled in the credits, especially

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<v Speaker 2>be customer number one and upgrade from number four, and

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<v Speaker 2>then hot Dog Bender and then eventually the last time

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<v Speaker 2>we had rehearsal in season six, I think before season seven,

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<v Speaker 2>we had that same circle lot and Amy did a

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<v Speaker 2>little number and I think she remembered from the year before.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, Okay, what's your name to me with kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the eyes, and I go, now, I'm confused, because

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<v Speaker 2>am my hot dog vendor, my costumer and my customer.

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<v Speaker 2>I just so, I just said Jonathan, the customer number

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<v Speaker 2>four from from the blah blah blah. She goes, no,

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<v Speaker 2>your bill, what, No, you're now Bill, and then she

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<v Speaker 2>moved on and in a second, sure enough, go back

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<v Speaker 2>to my We hadn't even checked into wardrobe. I go

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<v Speaker 2>back to my little little narrow sideways honeywagon and there

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<v Speaker 2>it is Gilmore Girls. Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nice feeling. Huh yeah, it's just a thrill.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was so exciting because I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>the upgrade, but just the discipline on the set of

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<v Speaker 2>Gilmore Girls. Of of course, not just the words per minute,

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<v Speaker 2>but just getting it right and the blocking and the

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<v Speaker 2>rhythm and the timing and the pacing and nailing it quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and and having a four minute steady cam

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<v Speaker 2>shot that doesn't break and designer. All these things were

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<v Speaker 2>to me brand new. But I thought TV was always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like that. So when so when director

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<v Speaker 2>Ken Whitingham, who directed a number of Gilmore Girls episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>he happened to direct one of my second or third ones,

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<v Speaker 2>and just coincidentally, the next week, I'm at a callback

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<v Speaker 2>from My Name is Earl and there's Ken Whitingham directing

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<v Speaker 2>an episode of that. But that show, the show runner

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<v Speaker 2>wanted improv and wanted buttons and wanted tags. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of for me a quick study. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so glad I came from the Amy Sherman Palladino, Aaron Storkin,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike O'Malley, Cheryl Anderson world of Word for Word first,

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<v Speaker 2>so I have the discipline to be able to not

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<v Speaker 2>be a lazy actor who just improvs because they think

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<v Speaker 2>they're better, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or they think they're improving the scene or improving Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>uh okay, great story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I was just really it was always sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like going to you know, going to cub Scout

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<v Speaker 2>camp with all the boy scout rules, Like I already

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<v Speaker 2>had all the like the I had the hard stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could do it fast by the time I

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<v Speaker 2>got to you know, always Sonia in Philly and Pineapple

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<v Speaker 2>Express a few years later, and like a Judd Apatouse

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<v Speaker 2>set where it's loose and you're you're cutting in riffing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so glad that I had the set discipline

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<v Speaker 2>of the script first for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So your first line on TV turns out to be

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<v Speaker 1>your meal order while Luke was hurrying around the diner,

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<v Speaker 1>Cob cell, don't have a cut and O bacon lue cheese,

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<v Speaker 1>Talian dressing. I mean, you do it better than I

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<v Speaker 1>because you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>You rememberized eighteen years later, I still have the memorize, So.

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<v Speaker 1>You really nailed it, and you just nailed it again

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<v Speaker 1>here do you? What was that first day on set? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>were you nervous? I was?

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<v Speaker 2>I was, And it was such a you know, an

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<v Speaker 2>influx of input and knowledge and just kind of wonder

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<v Speaker 2>because I of course had watched the show and I

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<v Speaker 2>knew the show, but I had not been to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Midwest set or anything on the Warner Brothers lot

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of know how the machine was gonna work.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was really in awe just kind of sitting

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<v Speaker 2>back and watching and I think if I had this correctly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we were shooting a winter scene in the

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<v Speaker 2>summer or at least it was traditional warm California, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I had my own like barber hunting and Parker

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<v Speaker 2>jacket on, and I was it was like ninety degrees

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<v Speaker 2>and so just the whole thing was surreal. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know the snow was going to be fake.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't know anything. I mean, I just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know how the machine worked. So I really I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember his name, but the guy who the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>worked in the diner with you, who's just like a

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<v Speaker 2>really friendly, nice Hispanic guy. He played kind of your

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<v Speaker 2>diner cook.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Caesar, Yeah, Caesar.

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<v Speaker 2>He that actor. I forgot his name, and I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I coul remember offs Alvarado artist Alvarado. He was really

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<v Speaker 2>kind to me and picked up on my green newbie

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<v Speaker 2>energy and just gave me kind of like the hey man,

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<v Speaker 2>you got this, It's gonna be cool. Just he just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of gave me the little like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had like ChB guy bonding, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>everything was going to be okay after that. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>currently in twenty twenty four, we actually have a new

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<v Speaker 2>real problem that I've noticed in both casting and the

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<v Speaker 2>acting side right now, which is that because of self taping.

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<v Speaker 2>The new SAG rules have made it such that they

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<v Speaker 2>can't ask actors to memorize the sides right for their audition.

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<v Speaker 2>But the intention of that is not to say improv

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<v Speaker 2>or go off book. The intention is that they'll have

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<v Speaker 2>enough time to turn around a self tape right. So

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<v Speaker 2>what's been happening is casting. When you have a showrunner

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<v Speaker 2>like Amy or Aaron Sorkin or Mike O'Malley who wants

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<v Speaker 2>and should deserve to have their artistic vision honored of

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<v Speaker 2>word to word, word for word, casting can't ask the

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<v Speaker 2>actors to do that. And they're all scared that legal

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<v Speaker 2>will get in if they say, you know, use a teleprompter,

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<v Speaker 2>use your iPad, you hold your sides out of frame,

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<v Speaker 2>but to please honor the script. They're afraid that legal

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<v Speaker 2>will get in and say, oh no, no, no, you're

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<v Speaker 2>telling them to memorize, which is really kind of silly,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we all would all of us would benefit, and

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<v Speaker 2>every show runner has a right to run it however

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<v Speaker 2>they want, you know, but we need to know. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're going on righteous Gemstones, you better do three buttons

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<v Speaker 2>and three tags. If you're going on a Michaelmalley or

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<v Speaker 2>an Aaron Sorkin or an Amy Shore and Palladino show.

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<v Speaker 2>You better nail A and not the It says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>not the you know they, but casting is not allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to communicate that to us, So I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to reach out to SAG at some point, because

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<v Speaker 2>surely we can all come together and collaborate on some

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<v Speaker 2>wording that would it would only help everyone, right, the

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<v Speaker 2>actors and casting and the showrunner.

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<v Speaker 1>I really miss, you know, meeting producers and meeting the

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<v Speaker 1>star or or if I'm the star, meeting the people

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<v Speaker 1>that are coming into audition. I think that's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you get the vibe and you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can almost instantly tell if somebody's right for something as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as they walk through the door. You can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel their energy and you kind of see them

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<v Speaker 1>and how they come in and it's like, oh yeah

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<v Speaker 1>that you know. It all sort of starts to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>When it happens, you know, and when it doesn't, it

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<v Speaker 1>really doesn't. And it's very quick and a.

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<v Speaker 2>Taped performance doesn't honor the essence of the person and

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<v Speaker 2>you need all you need that physical being to really say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this person's essence fits our world, regardless of their performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially a director. I would think a director would want

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<v Speaker 1>to meet the people that they're going to work with

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<v Speaker 1>and watch a performance live or watch an audition live

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<v Speaker 1>right there in the room. Mm hmm. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I auditioned for Tarantino's first film four Times Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was there every single time. And these were

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<v Speaker 1>really grueling, arduous scenes and there were three or four

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<v Speaker 1>of them at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>And he got in He got in there and worked

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<v Speaker 2>in with you, right, yes, I got right in there

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<v Speaker 2>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean David Mentor does yes, I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>in the very final audition, he actually jumped into the

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<v Speaker 1>audition and started improving with me. Oh wow, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>oh cool. Yeah. So I mean he you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>that if you're self taping. I mean, there's just no

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<v Speaker 1>there's just no way. So I think I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think everything was better back in the day before.

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<v Speaker 2>It's here to stay, So I don't I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to make it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, truly. They're not ever going to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's turned into kind of a grocery shopping

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<v Speaker 2>trip for casting, you know, and they like go down

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<v Speaker 2>Aisle three, and oh, well, that peanut butter's out of stock,

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<v Speaker 2>will go get a different one. They don't. There's the

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<v Speaker 2>collaborative nature of the of the actor, the casting director,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the showrunner or director, the collaborative in the

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<v Speaker 2>room in there anymore, it's just yes, no peanut butter, nutella.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I haven't done a lot of self tape auditions.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a few, and you know, a couple of them,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I really nailed. There was one for a

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<v Speaker 1>Natalie Portman to start up? Is it Natalie Portman? And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I really nailed, and I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to get it. I didn't get it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, you missed that opportunity to meet with

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<v Speaker 1>the people that are involved. And it's just like that's

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<v Speaker 1>just everything. You know. They it's a chemistry check. It

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely just is if you if you sort of

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<v Speaker 1>vibe with a person and that that translates on screen.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's an element that is completely missing.

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<v Speaker 2>Chemistry and environment are denied by a self tape because

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<v Speaker 2>you can't know how they fit in the environment if

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't been in the room. And like and like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, chemistry, like you have. It might work with

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<v Speaker 2>the other actors, it might not. We'll find out work,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll find out the makeup trailer exam.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's wow, that's frustrating.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to do it a different way. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just a small, little, tiny indie film casting director. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not a big enough deal to change

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<v Speaker 2>the world. But but you know, if you get three callbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>the third ones in room with me, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, oh sure, I totally agree with you. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So your scene Bill was when Luke found out that

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<v Speaker 1>he had a daughter and oh yeah, walked in asking

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<v Speaker 1>for a piece of my hair or Luke's hair. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you remember about filming that scene?

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<v Speaker 2>I do, because specifically I remember I remember the the

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<v Speaker 2>the kid actor if and'sa right as an adult, big

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<v Speaker 2>deal now, right, Yeah, and her sister a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>But and I don't specifically remember her so much because

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<v Speaker 2>she was just a young kid. But her mom, I

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<v Speaker 2>totally remember her mom. I'm always paying attention to Mama

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<v Speaker 2>Jerseys talking to the moms.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so great. She was, she produced these two brilliant kids.

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<v Speaker 3>She was she was one of the good ones and

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<v Speaker 3>and I heard her on the phone going because it

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<v Speaker 3>was day one and she was on the phone with

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, a relative or a friend or something

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<v Speaker 3>just walking around.

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<v Speaker 2>Said I wasn't trying to eavesdrop, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, no, this is the Vanessa book to

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<v Speaker 2>the big one. This is the big one that was

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<v Speaker 2>And she caught my eye and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you go right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that led to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Led to all kinds of magic for her and I

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<v Speaker 2>later later on was on a couple of years later,

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<v Speaker 2>I got on I Carle the Nickelodeon Kids show, and

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<v Speaker 2>that without naming names, that was a messful of mamagers,

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<v Speaker 2>not good at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Kinds of that were not what did you what do

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<v Speaker 1>you call them? Mama?

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<v Speaker 2>What mamagers? Mom managers, mamagers, mamagers.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, see, you know, if the kid asked you,

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<v Speaker 4>you gotta put all the money in the cougan account

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<v Speaker 4>and the kid can't have access to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the mamager can take twenty percent off of gross

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<v Speaker 2>and put it in her pocket and they can get

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<v Speaker 2>into work every day, you know. So that's why they

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<v Speaker 2>all become mammagers. So all their psychological reasons too, but

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<v Speaker 2>Vanessa's mom was one of the good ones. But I

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<v Speaker 2>Carly was wow, that was a train wreck. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a documentary about that, so I won't say anything more.

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<v Speaker 1>So did the nerves begin to subside as you did?

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<v Speaker 1>As you did more episodes? You felt more like part

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<v Speaker 1>of the family almost, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, definitely, and observing really helped me. And I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>just like a little zen thing was the repetition of

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<v Speaker 2>doing things the same way, of getting the word for

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<v Speaker 2>word out and watching the four minute steady cam blocking

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<v Speaker 2>it was incredible. It was in a crowded diner. All

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<v Speaker 2>of that discipline watching it happened actually calmed me down

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<v Speaker 2>because it made me centered and focused on like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>nailing it, you know, because I could. I started to

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<v Speaker 2>like feel when the camera was there instead of like

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<v Speaker 2>counting blocking numbers, and you know, instead of going okay, one, two, three, talk,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, I can feel it. Here they come.

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<v Speaker 2>But and it just my my, you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a bass player and a drummer and a guitar player,

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<v Speaker 2>and my rhythm, my natural rhythm took over and I

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<v Speaker 2>could feel the rhythm of the script and where I

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<v Speaker 2>needed to come in rather than just like being nervous

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<v Speaker 2>about my part's about to happen, you know. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>just watching everybody gave me the kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>discipline of repetition gave me confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, yeah, yeah, those diner scenes were very involved,

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<v Speaker 1>very involved with the blocking. Those were my favorite scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Though it's a tight little place to do a dance,

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<v Speaker 2>it is, But I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, I just I just love that set. I

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<v Speaker 1>really love that set, and we did some good work

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<v Speaker 1>on that set.

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<v Speaker 2>It worked really well. It just really did. I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying the Squeaky Tables anywhere that she's sick asp she

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<v Speaker 2>had a she had a she goes. It was in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the tank and one of the tables went,

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<v Speaker 2>she goes. Okay people season six, Squeaky Tables seasons so classic.

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<v Speaker 2>And I heard her writing voice when she did that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, that's her writing voice. I totally

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<v Speaker 2>that's her voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it now. Yeah, she didn't pop too much,

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<v Speaker 1>but when she did it was really you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>was amusing. It was always funny. Yeah, it was never

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<v Speaker 1>angry or you know, I mean there was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of frustration, like she's sending that message out to

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't quite how much money that I made for

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<v Speaker 2>you people, but the message was clear, come come squirt

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<v Speaker 2>from W forty on these temples. Ye know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so funny. All right, So one of your episodes

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<v Speaker 1>was the Winter Carnival as a hot dog vendor where

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<v Speaker 1>you got to experience stars hollow all dressed up like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh that was the snow, the fake snow, and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a shoot. Yeah, so talk about that. He'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I was obsessed with that that out that exterior

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<v Speaker 2>part of is it called Middle America might calling it

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<v Speaker 2>right that back lot of the WB area, but but

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I immediately recognized the gazebo where the town square.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's Boss Hogs gazebo from the pilot

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<v Speaker 2>Duke's matter. And then I was like, that's the Ronald

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<v Speaker 2>Reagan movie something where he gives this speech. It just

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<v Speaker 2>immediately I was connecting all the dots to to that

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<v Speaker 2>little part of the lot. And and yeah, just to

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<v Speaker 2>see it fully decorated with you know, with with trucks

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<v Speaker 2>and the and the confetti's foam snow. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was a combination of both foam and confetti to make

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<v Speaker 2>it or something. Not how close you were to camera,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, it was eighty five degrees outside and

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<v Speaker 2>we all had winter jackets on and.

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<v Speaker 1>And then messed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the various blowers and everything going. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>they the band. I wasn't in the episode with the

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<v Speaker 2>band Sparks, but it was just the week before that,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were they were still cleaning up from the

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<v Speaker 2>big band concert and they were still like, bring the

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<v Speaker 2>snow in, take the band out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Sparks. Sparks was on Gilmour Girls, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, Wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Wiley and fifteen years before America. I mean, they've been

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<v Speaker 2>around for fifty more than fifty years because I'm fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>But they yeah, they they were. They were cool before

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<v Speaker 2>they were cool, even on Gilmour Girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely so. All right, So so here we are, season seven, right,

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<v Speaker 1>episode seventeen, they gave you a bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Do y'all call that the bonus year or what do

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<v Speaker 2>we if we call that extra season?

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<v Speaker 1>The we call that, uh maybe a gift better left unwrapped?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, understood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are some you know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some really charming episodes in seven seven Season seven

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<v Speaker 1>finding So I'm glad that they were made, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a relevant season and uh, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>always going to be Bobbles. It's a hard, hard thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do to all those seasons, but there's some really

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<v Speaker 1>great episodes in there, and we just we just reviewed one.

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<v Speaker 2>I did have one slightly juicy TMZ story which was

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<v Speaker 2>in the last, the last episode that I did of

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<v Speaker 2>season six, right, and it was it wasn't the it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the last episode, but it was like maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>third to last or penultimate. It was getting close to

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<v Speaker 2>the season winding up, and every everything was in negotiations

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<v Speaker 2>and up in the air, and nobody knew was what

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<v Speaker 2>was the status at that point? What is there or

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<v Speaker 2>is there not going to be? A seven? Was the deal?

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember riding in the transpo van back to

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<v Speaker 2>dressing or base camp or wherever we were, and one

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.400
<v Speaker 2>of the actors was riding back in the transfer van

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<v Speaker 2>with me, one of the series Rigs and nice guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just being dumb new actor green medi I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, so were we coming back for another season

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<v Speaker 2>or what? Not knowing that that was like very touchy

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, and he just under his breath goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear Alexis has a price. If they made it,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going. I was like, welcome to Hollywood. Wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those were those were touchy days.

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<v Speaker 2>Touchy days. But like you said, and all in all,

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was amazing to have another see then.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I only came back like once in the

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<v Speaker 2>final one anyway, but but yeah, it was, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was super cool to I think one of the

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<v Speaker 2>episodes is called super Cool Party People.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yes, indeed, let's talk about your music. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're a musician, you're recording in a band. What's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd like to say that. You know, I've kind

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<v Speaker 2>of always done both since I was about fourteen, both

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<v Speaker 2>acting and music, because I quickly learned when I was

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<v Speaker 2>about fourteen that I could stay out of the gym

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<v Speaker 2>and spend all weekend building sets and stapling fabric with

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<v Speaker 2>all the hot girls who did musicals in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would have air conditioning in the south instead

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:32.439
<v Speaker 2>of sweating, and half the guys were, let's say, not

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 2>interested in the pretty girls. So for a chubby, nerdy

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 2>guy like me, the odds got really good and I

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<v Speaker 2>became a great listener, I mean to tell me all

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Well, so I learned some pretty good skills

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.399
<v Speaker 2>there in high school from theater and music as well

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 2>that everybody wanted to come see the band and kept

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 2>me off the practice field running laps. So yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of always done it. And this latest project that

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I had a band in LA for eight

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<v Speaker 2>years called the Beechwood Canyon Rockers that we play every

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 2>other tuestate piano bar. I've always kind of had it going.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just different times in my life. One thing is

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<v Speaker 2>kicking versus the other. But for me, they're always present.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no difference. It's just where I'm paying taxes, right.

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:21.400
<v Speaker 2>But this most recent project, there is a singer songwriter

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>artist in the South named Kevin Kinney who fronts a

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 2>band called Driving and Crying that's done great over the

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 2>years and they're beloved in the South. And his wife

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:36.679
<v Speaker 2>Anna Anna Jensen, who's an artist painter, she produced. She

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 2>decided to produce a tribute series to him while he's alive, right,

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 2>instead of tributes that happened after your dead. So it

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>is so she has a label together and all that,

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and they are releasing one hundred songs in one hundred weeks,

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 2>one every Friday for two years. That are his songs

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 2>by other.

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>People that other people recorded, correct, like legit artists.

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So five months ago she asked me to in La.

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I had a little comedy rock duo with my friend

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Laura Wiggins, who played Karen on Shameless the first three

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 2>seasons with Serious Ray, and we had a little frickin'

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 2>frack Russian comedy duo kind of thing. And Kevin Kevin's

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>wife asked Laura and I who had toured with Kevin

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 2>years ago out West and Peter Buck from Rim. We've

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 2>done like an acoustic tour with them. Kevin's wife said,

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 2>why don't you and Laura put together a project for

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.400
<v Speaker 2>this song? And so set in Stone is our current

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 2>release that just came out two weeks ago or a

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>week and a half ago, came out on July nineteenth.

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 2>It was just released and we've been recording for months

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>and months and it went and it's a Kevin's song

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 2>that we recorded with a new band with Taylor Trucks,

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 2>who's the son of Butch Trucks from the Almond Brothers.

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 2>And then Laura sings backup and the guy from the Pink.

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 2>So we're calling it slightly Famous Somebody's because we're slightly

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 2>a big deal but not really a big Yeah, And

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 2>it went so great, it came out so phenomenal that

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Kevin and everybody was like, you guys would be foolish

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to not keep going.

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna write I'm gonna write this down after after

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I get off with you, I'm gonna listen to this stuff.

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>What's the man.

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the band is called Slightly Famous Somebody's and

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 2>the song is called set in Stone, and it's on YouTube,

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 2>It's on all the Spotify, Apple, it's everywhere. It's on

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 2>all the services. I think one of your producers. My

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 2>signature has all the links in it my email, so

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 2>your producer's probably at it. And so yeah, so Kevin

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Kevin's suggestion. We went back into the studio about two

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, and I'm going back in the studio again

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 2>next week and we're recording an entire uh EP of

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 2>all songs from Athens, Georgia Ish artists. Where's Kevin's from,

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm from, where ore EM's from, Where Indigo Girls

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 2>are from, and the Black Crows are from Windspread Panic

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and so we're covering a song by all of those

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.679
<v Speaker 2>artists and putting it on our record, which is going

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 2>to be called athens Ish, so it's it's sort of

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 2>a play on that. And yeah, we just did the

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Indigo Girls song from nineteen eighty nine last week called

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Land of Canaan, so that'll be out in a month

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 2>or two, and then we have another single by another

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Athens band called Gladacamal Diary after that, and then the

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>first week of September we're recording all of our favorite

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 2>RM song and RM is kind of the mothership for Athens,

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 2>so you have to you have to bow with the

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>author of them, and that's no problem because we all

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 2>love them.

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's exciting. That's exciting.

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really it's do you have.

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 1>A booking agent and they're setting tours and this.

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Kind of Well, that's the great thing is everybody in

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the band has their own primary other thing they do, right,

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 2>So this is it's not I don't like to say

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>that it's a side project. It's more like a pop

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>up band, right, Like we pop up and we exist

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.679
<v Speaker 2>and then we're gone and we're kind of like the

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Partridge Family or the Blues Brothers. Or Eddie and the Cruisers.

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 2>We're like a fake, real band made for TV, you know.

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So we are a band, but you know, I'm going

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>for two songs air conditioning and cut the commercial break,

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 2>not a van and sweaty people, right.

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>That's smart.

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we want to get on Gemstones and be

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the house band or something, you know, like that would

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>be would be great. But yeah, our lead singer, Mackenzie,

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 2>she plays Stevie Nicks in the biggest Fleetwood Mac cover

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>band in the nation, and she's on tour constantly. She's

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 2>leaving tomorrow morning, gone, you know, a month at a time.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 2>So nobody's really available except for like the really concentrated

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 2>time when we're all together and then everybody disappears.

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>So, so you're down there in Georgia.

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm in Atlanta. I'm in Atlanta. Yeah, I'm back

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 2>in forth in LA. Yeah, I'm in LA all the time.

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>But I live I live full time in Atlanta.

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, okay.

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Or casting stuff and whatever, but I so I kind

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>of I work as an actor in LA and I

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 2>work as a casting director in Atlanta. Just to keep

0:28:55.520 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 2>it all over interesting interesting. I mean, I'll mix if

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>someone offers, but that's just kind of how it's all

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 2>falling out.

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>You got to go where the work is right.

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Plus, like nobody, nobody here is doing it the l

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 2>a way. So I was like, guys, I got eleven

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 2>years there, I can do it that way.

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>You know. I was in Atlanta over the past couple

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of years, did a convention there at the at the

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>CNN Center, and god, there's the greatest sushi restaurant outside

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>just outside it. What do you have you been to

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>this place? Oh?

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 2>But did you go to bou Hie Buford Highway we

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>call Boohai and Shambley with all the it's like a

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 2>small not even small, it's a massive Asian part of town.

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 2>But the food is incredible.

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think what's another one.

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Be boo Hi Shambley. I mean there's just so there's

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>so much good, especially down there and also downtown where

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>you were we called the Omni Center because bail.

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Now we we got out. It took forever to get

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>out of downtown. It took forever to just drive one

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>block and then you know, we were thinking about walking,

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>but then the kebar said, oh no, no, no, this

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>is a couple of mile drive, you know, Yeah.

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 2>That's not a great walking town at all.

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>The sushi was so good there. We went back night

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>after night. Oh man, awesome, and I remember ordering. I

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>actually ordered a platter and because because the the the

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>salmon belly sushi was actually they were smaller pieces than

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>what the what you get out here in California, thirty

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>of them.

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>There's a there's a place in downtown l A that

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>a couple of times a year has all you can

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 2>eat raw oysters for three hours.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have.

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I've destroyed my guts. I've come out of there

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>like nobody's coming near me for a week after that.

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I tell you, you know, I lived in the South. I've

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>traveled the South. The food is fantastic, isn't it. It's

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>just so good down there. All right, So we're gonna

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>do a rapid fire. It's a little game we play.

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean you have to be fast. I'm just gonna

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>ask you a bunch of questions. So let's just relax.

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's answer these questions to the best of your ability.

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, here we go. How do you like your coffee?

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh easy? A lot of cream, no sugar.

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Are you a team logan, team ess or team Dean.

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think I'm team Logan.

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Why tell me why?

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I think. You see, I'm like casting nerds, so I'm

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 2>following like the actor's career after they played you know,

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>after they played Logans. I'm answering that in actor terms

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 2>instead of character terms. So yeah, I like what that

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>actor has done. But with a number of other projects too,

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and.

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I think Logan was a really meaty role too.

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did a great job with it, didn't he.

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what a good launch. I would bet he's

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of the same kind of like everything

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 2>else was easy after that kind of thing, because he's

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>a ton of stuff to work with. Yes.

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Indeed, who was your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Lorelei or Emily and Richard?

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, definitely Luke Isla.

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Is there any other.

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Couple that's right? Well, I grew up in like the

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta debutante world, so the uh so the Emily world

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>was like it was a little too close to home

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 2>for me, and a lot of.

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I was like, give me what hev GB's every time

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you turned on the TV.

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a guy a little I was looking

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>for the gone with the wind cast sometimes.

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk?

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Michelle?

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Would you what would you order at Luke's Diner?

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Cops solid, I have a bacon it Titian dressings go.

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Who would you rather hang out with? Paris or Lane?

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I really liked Lane. I did meet I didn't

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>have a scene with Lane, but I met Lane in

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>between scenes or in makeup, and I really liked I

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 2>really liked Lane. I thought that was great.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh, Harvard or Yale or drop out and live

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>in the poolhouse.

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Definitely pool house.

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>You gotta go with the poolhouse.

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>It's I've been sober seven years, but my brain is

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>permanently attached to deviants and dropping out in clubhouse and party,

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 2>even though I'm not that guy anymore. Like huh, my

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>self images. So I'm like, you ask me questions that

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Yes, let's go to New Orleans right now

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 2>with no plan in nine dollars, let's.

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Do it interesting. Uh. Would you rather attend a dar

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>event with Emily or a town town meeting with Taylor?

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh? See now this, I'll go the other way because Emily.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 2>I would be quiet and sit behind Emily and learn something.

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is the right choice.

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>This is I would let I would let her lead. Absolutely,

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I would step behind.

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Gilmore's character that you would want as a roommate. Oh caesar, Oh,

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I caeesar.

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Because he couldn't bring home leftovers every night. I needed

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Te's dip and things to eat after the game to.

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Watch somebody's thinking, somebody's thinking, somebody.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.399
<v Speaker 2>Snacks from the diner, and plus like tell me fun, guys,

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:46.760
<v Speaker 2>we got to stick together. So yeah, he'd be my roommate.

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Something in your life you are all in on.

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, this one's a big one. You know. I

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a criminal or anything, but you know I

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>found my way into trouble a lot when I was

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>a daily heavy alcohol abuser. And it's been seven and

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 2>a half years. So my main mission now, I'm not

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 2>like some goodie two shoes. I'm just trying to make

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I just try to g litmus tests myself of am

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I doing this in an ethical way? And that's my

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>all in. It is like if the thing I want

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 2>passes my truth mirrored ethical litmus test, then I am

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.399
<v Speaker 2>absolutely all in on it, and I try to put

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 2>everything in front of that position first now and before

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think about it at all. I mean, I

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 2>felt guilty about it when I didn't do it, but

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think about it, so it's not you know,

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I still screw up, fall in my face and do

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 2>totally greedy things that are absolutely wrong and in my

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 2>self interest every day, but I try to put that

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>am I pursuing my goals ethically? Is my all in?

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>That's it Jonathan Spencer, Ladies and gentlemen. There you have

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:05.760
<v Speaker 1>him in all his glory. Uh check out his uh.

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 2>His bank famous, Somebody's.

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Slightly Famous, Somebody set in Stone, available on all platforms.

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>It's been a pleasure talking to you, Jonathan. Wish you

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the best and we thank you for your time.

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<v Speaker 4>Great to talk to you, Scott, have a good one.

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