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Speaker 2: Zach is on the phone today for our first Date

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Leah. So in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes we'll call her and see if she'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him

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Speaker 2: another date. But first, Zach, how long has it been

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Speaker 2: since you heard from Leah?

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Speaker 3: It's been about a week.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of a sweet spot where people start to

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Speaker 5: panic a little bit, you know.

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Speaker 4: I get that, though. Have you tried to reach out

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Speaker 4: to her?

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Speaker 3: I have and honestly just throwing the straight to voicemail.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Oh that's got to hurt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, tell us about your date.

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Speaker 3: We didn't do anything too crazy. I cooked your dinner

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Speaker 3: at my place, and like, I really can't cook, so

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Speaker 3: it was a good time. We played some Monopoly and

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Speaker 3: how long was the date?

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Speaker 4: Like seven hours? Monopoly takes forever.

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Speaker 3: Came over for dinner around seven, We started playing around

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Speaker 3: a thirty. She didn't leave for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a joke, but that's okay. It sounds

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Speaker 5: like you guys are really enjoying each other's company.

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Speaker 3: Ish. Yeah, no, Like I even let her be the car,

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Speaker 3: so clearly she's winning a live. Well, we messed around

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Speaker 3: a little bit. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: Like when you say messed around a little bit, you

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Speaker 2: don't have to give us like details, but what's a

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Speaker 2: little bit, Like did you guys hook up all the way?

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Speaker 4: That is details? Yeah, go on, like all the details.

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Speaker 4: We had a good time, okay.

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Speaker 3: You know, at the end, I thought we were we

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Speaker 3: were going to like hang out because she said, you know,

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Speaker 3: let's do this again, and I thought that was not facetious.

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Speaker 3: And I haven't really heard back.

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Speaker 5: Did anything happen like during monopoly or while you guys

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Speaker 5: were messing around? That may be a reason why.

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Speaker 3: No, Like so like during monopoly, everything was going great.

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Speaker 3: We're connecting and you know, everything like flowed really really well,

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Speaker 3: and like she's probably the most beautiful woman I've ever

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Speaker 4: And oh okay.

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Speaker 3: It had me like wondering, like do I just have

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Speaker 3: bad lighting in my house and my like a nightclub

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Speaker 3: of is I have a picture of my son by

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Speaker 3: the door, and uh, I noticed that she glanced at it,

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Speaker 3: but she didn't say anything, and uh, maybe that preasure out.

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Speaker 4: Did she already know that you have a son?

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Speaker 3: No, Like, I didn't really know how to bring it up.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you didn't tell her you have a kid.

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Speaker 3: No, not yet.

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Speaker 2: So I think I'll be gold if you were dating,

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Speaker 2: if you're a single dad, I feel like that'd be good.

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Speaker 2: I mean some people are super into it. Meeting one

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Speaker 2: of those people. But me, yeah, well, so did you

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Speaker 4: Looking at it? Was there a moment that was kind

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Speaker 4: of weird with that?

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Speaker 3: No, she glanced at it and you know, moved forward.

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Speaker 3: Everything seemed fine, nothing really changed. She asked me anything

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Speaker 3: about it, So I didn't think that there was anything there.

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Speaker 4: It could also be that you didn't mention it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, some things are just better to be.

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Speaker 6: Discovered, right.

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Speaker 2: But I mean for her, she might be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: he didn't tell me he had a kid, like he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe I should have just lead with that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't lead with it, but there's definitely a place

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Speaker 5: she's at your house with the picture. But did that

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Speaker 5: happen at the end of the night, in the middle

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Speaker 5: of the night. I'm just trying to see, like if

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Speaker 5: her mood shifted it all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well we'll see if that is the reason.

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Speaker 2: We'll play a song, come back and call her and

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Speaker 2: see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and

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Speaker 2: maybe get you another date. Okay, thank you, all right,

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Speaker 2: play a song, come back, get your first Day follow

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Speaker 2: up next. You're just joining us for today's first Day

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Speaker 2: follow up. Zach is on the phone and he's not

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Speaker 2: getting a call back from Leah. So we're about to

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Speaker 2: ghosting him and maybe get him another date. But before

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Speaker 2: we do that, Zach, refresh our memory about your day

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Speaker 2: with Leah.

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Speaker 3: So she came over to my place. I made her dinner,

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Speaker 3: We played Monopoly. We had an amazing time. I think

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Speaker 3: she's the prettiest grill I've ever seen. And I've been

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Speaker 3: getting ghosted for about a week now.

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Speaker 4: Why was it again that you think you might be

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Speaker 4: getting ghosted?

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Speaker 3: I mean, before she walked out, she noticed the picture

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Speaker 3: that freaked her out.

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Speaker 4: A little bit because you didn't tell her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I mean I didn't really know her to

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Speaker 3: put that in our first date conversation.

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Speaker 4: You ready for us to call her? Yeah? All right,

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Speaker 4: here we go.

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Speaker 6: Hello him. Please, this is hard, not going to help you.

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Speaker 2: Leah was up. This is a radio show. It's called

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Speaker 2: The Jewbil Show. How are you hi, Leah?

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Speaker 4: I'm Nina. Hi, I am Victoria. My name is Jewbel.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god. I didn't think people actually did this

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Speaker 6: in real life. I mean, like you hear clips online,

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Speaker 4: So you actually have heard of the show.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, totally sweet.

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Speaker 4: Great, Well, Leah, do you know why we're calling.

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Speaker 6: I'm hoping I won something.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm hoping you did too.

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Speaker 2: We do a segment called the First Day follow Up

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Speaker 2: this where if you go on a date with someone

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Speaker 2: and you ghost them, they can email us to call

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Speaker 2: you and ask why you're ghosting them.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm not telling you that for no reason. That's

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Speaker 4: the reason we're calling.

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Speaker 2: You're ghosting somebody, and they emailed us because they're wondering

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Speaker 2: why you're not calling them back, more specifically, why you're

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Speaker 2: just sending him to the voicemail when they call you.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, it's definitely zact.

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Speaker 2: Then huh, yes it is. Oh, can you tell us

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Speaker 2: why you're ghosting him? He really wants to know.

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Speaker 6: Okay, the date was great. He's clearly a nice guy.

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Speaker 7: I think we had a lot of fun, but someone

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Speaker 7: has definitely been there besides me, and I think she

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Speaker 7: was cooking, like right before you you mean, I mean,

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 6: Like his place is immaculate, Like it looks amazing.

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Speaker 7: And I'm talking like this is that guy stuff right,

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Speaker 7: Like there's perfectly arranged flowers, the decorative pillows literally everywhere, and.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, somewhere they've been usually been taught.

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Speaker 7: And I guess that's what I'm saying is like it

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Speaker 6: It's doing it wrong.

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Speaker 7: It was very nice, and he just kind of so

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Speaker 7: this is where it gets where it's word. So I

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Speaker 7: and he goes He just like casually says, yeah, my

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Speaker 4: She still brings him fresh flowers.

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Speaker 6: I guess, And I'm twice a week.

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Speaker 4: Wait, Leah, that's Zach. He's actually on the phone list thing.

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Speaker 6: I want to talk to you.

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Speaker 7: Oh okay, I didn't know you were high.

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Speaker 4: So let's pick back up, Zach.

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Speaker 5: You'r ex bring to see you in the flowers still

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Speaker 3: It's not like that, Like she's just been you're your designer,

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Speaker 3: and we haven't been together in forever and there's nothing

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Speaker 2: Zac.

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Speaker 6: There are throw pillows. No man has that many SMOs.

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Speaker 6: I do unless someone else is acting.

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Speaker 4: I've got a lot throw pillows.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I like it though, Okay, I mean yeah, I

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Speaker 6: mean I like having a nice place, and like, I

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Speaker 6: guess maybe flowers and pillows are a bit much.

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Speaker 3: But like she's not living there, Like I can't just

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Speaker 4: I don't even know that it's because you have a

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Speaker 5: It almost seems like this is her way of being like,

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Speaker 5: what's the deal with your ex?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you can have flowers. I think they're cool. It's

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Speaker 7: clearly pretty, but they're coming from your ex.

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Speaker 3: All right, Wait, the you sing a photo of my son?

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Speaker 6: What son?

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Speaker 3: The pictures that I saw you glancing at on the wall?

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Speaker 6: So you lied to me twice. Your ex decorates your house,

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Speaker 6: and you have a kid that you never mentioned. Oh,

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Speaker 6: I feel like those are good things to just skip over.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I get where you're coming from. Still for

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Speaker 3: a second, it looks like reset. Okay, let's just start fresh. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I have a son. I have a good relationship with

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Speaker 3: his mom. She's an interior designer, and she keeps the

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Speaker 3: by the way, and she's supportive of whoever I choose

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Speaker 4: Wait, so backup, So your ex is also your baby mom?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's why she's still over. She brings my

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Speaker 3: it's probably for him to feel more comfortable, so that

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Speaker 3: his place that he's staying in with her is similar

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Speaker 3: more comforting environment. So I'm open towards having my place

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Speaker 7: I mean look, Zach, that's all well and good, but

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Speaker 7: I don't see why you couldn't have told me that sooner.

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Speaker 7: I really don't feel like this was when I should

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Speaker 7: have been, you know. I mean, like that's not something

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Speaker 7: you just drop on someone after a date, and like,

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Speaker 7: I just feel like it feels like you held out

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Speaker 6: A secret for me or something. No.

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Speaker 3: Like, Listen, you're the first person I've gone on a

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Speaker 3: day with in a very very long time. I did intentionally.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually interested in you. I just I didn't really

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Speaker 3: know how to bring that up into the conversation. I

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Speaker 3: I thought the first thing was just to see how

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Speaker 3: we connect without complicating the scenario. It's not really something

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Speaker 3: I did intentionally. And I'm sorry if you feel like

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Speaker 3: that was what helped for me, But that wasn't one.

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Speaker 7: Of those It's just weird because when you asked me

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Speaker 6: I didn't skip a child.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I would really love to like see you again,

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Speaker 3: you out again, and you know, if you're open towards it,

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Speaker 3: you know, It's just I didn't know how to bring

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Speaker 3: that up in a conversation. This is you're the first

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Speaker 3: person I've got on a day with since Lea.

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Speaker 4: Would you like to go on another day with Zach?

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Speaker 4: Will pay for it?

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Speaker 6: My heart wants to say yes, but I feel like

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Speaker 6: I should say no. I've had this happen to me before.

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Speaker 1: I've had an ex who held out that he had

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Speaker 1: kids and it did not go well. Like, so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had two and didn't tell me until like four

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Speaker 1: months into dating, which like obviously way worse.

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Speaker 6: But like, this just gives me bad vibes.

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Speaker 3: I'm not comfortable the fact that after a first day

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Speaker 3: you found out I have a kid. You're not comfortable.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that if you don't want to

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Speaker 3: be around a kid. I mean, I don't think I

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Speaker 3: to you. I didn't. I didn't bring up something I

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Speaker 3: didot your family, and you didn't mention a child like

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Speaker 3: that's longing, it's liing by omission. I didn't lie to you.

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Speaker 3: I just with held the shrip.

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Speaker 6: You sound like a delight. Yeah no, that's just like

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Speaker 6: line but with wrapping paper on it.

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Speaker 3: I guess we can agree disagree.

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Speaker 7: If that's why you want to put it, fine, but Yeah, no,

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Speaker 7: m I'm not doing that again.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going down that road twice.

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Speaker 3: And that's the last time I let somebody win a monopoly.

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Speaker 4: Wow, you will, first date, follow up