1 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Well, good evening everyone, Welcome to Stinchield. If you can 2 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: believe it, it's been five years since January sixth. Yes, 3 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: today January sixth marks the five year anniversary of what 4 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: I have dubbed an unorganized tour of the capital. And 5 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: yet we saw thousands of great patriots persecuted to the 6 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: lights we have never seen before in this country, including 7 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: to the point of death. Who can forget Ashley Babbitt. 8 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: She was one of the reasons why so many people 9 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: took to the streets of the Capitol today in her 10 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: honor and so many others. You could see there you 11 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: had a dozen, if not hundreds of people march on 12 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: the Capitol in remembrance of a day that really, in 13 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: many respects was our modern day Boston tea party. And 14 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: I know that triggers the left to hear me say it. 15 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: On hand to address the crowd was Ashley Babbitt's mother. 16 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: The American people were attacked by the police that day. 17 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: My daughter was shot by a police officer who had 18 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 2: a disciplinary record that dates back decades, and in any 19 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: other police force he would have been fired, not promoted. 20 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: He's been protected, he's been honored, he's got raises. He's 21 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: benefited both professionally and financially from the death of my daughter. 22 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: So I want to see Michael Leroy Bird held accountable. 23 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: Well, he hasn't been held accountable. In fact, nobody has. 24 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Nobody inside the FBI has been held accountable for that day, 25 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: and I think that's what has everybody so frustrated. Here 26 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: we are five years later and still we're waiting for action. 27 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: I want to bring in national political reporter Neil McCabe 28 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: to the program. Neil, it is great to have you on. Welcome. 29 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: I know you are at that marching on the ground 30 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: in DC today. Good evening, Hey, going to be with you, Grant, 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: all right, So what was the mood there? 32 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: Was it? 33 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: Anger? Was its sadness? Tell me, well, it was kind of. 34 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: A cocktail, Grant. 35 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 5: If you know, for a lot of guys, you know, 36 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 5: five years ago they were marching from the Ellipse down 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: Pennsylvania Avenue with no idea what was waiting for them 38 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 5: at the Capitol and what was waiting for them at 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 5: the end of the road was solitary confinement, jail like 40 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 5: the loss of their businesses, their families, their professional life, 41 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 5: their professional reputation, and just just wall to wall misery 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 5: and attack by the government that was supposed to be 43 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 5: protecting them, and yet here they were five years later, 44 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 5: because President Trump exercised his clemency pardoned about fifteen hundred 45 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 5: J sixers. I think roughly a dozen were commuted, but 46 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 5: you know, there's still work to be done there. 47 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: So it was bittersweet. 48 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: There was a lot of anguish. 49 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 5: There was a lot of people were kind of really 50 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 5: emotionally torn when they especially when they when they actually 51 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 5: saw the capital as they were marching towards it. 52 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: But then there was also joy, Grant. 53 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 5: There was joy at their freedom, and there was joy 54 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 5: because you know, they have been incarcerated with a lot 55 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 5: of these people, and so I had that kind of 56 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 5: reunion feel. So that's sort of all sort of mixed 57 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: in together, Grant. 58 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: As you can imagine, you know, were most of the 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: people former J sixers themselves. 60 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, the vast majority were J sixers, and many of 61 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 5: them had served together, and you know a lot of them, 62 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 5: a lot of them they have nothing to their name, Grant. 63 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 5: I mean, in a way, it's not really fair to 64 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 5: ask these people to just sort of snap back and 65 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 5: be normal after what was done to them. But they're trying, 66 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 5: and they're they're strong, they're resilient, but they're suffering too, 67 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: and we still have to remember they need help recovering 68 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 5: and putting their lives back together. 69 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: Grant. 70 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: It's a great point, Neil. We're going to be covering 71 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: more of this on the show today. We've got a 72 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Jay six Sir Jonathan Strand coming on a little later. 73 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 6: Uh. 74 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: And we're doing all we can here at rab to 75 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: raise some money for these folks as well, because their 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: lives were destroyed, Neil mckayb. But I appreciate you sharing 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: some time with us today. Thank you. 78 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: Good to be with you. 79 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I want to turn now to uh more about 80 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: the capture of Nicholas Maduro in Venezuela. We are learning 81 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: what an unbelievable operation this was. President Trump again today 82 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: hinted that maybe the cyber operations may have set the 83 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: success up by shutting the lights out for the entire 84 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: nation of ven as well. A listen to this, but. 85 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 7: It was so brilliant. The electricity for almost the entire 86 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 7: higher country was boom turned out. 87 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: That's when they knew there was a problem. 88 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 7: There was no electricity Caracas. 89 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: There's no electrics. 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 7: It's not a The only people with lights were the 91 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 7: people that had candles. 92 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: It was just off, so we sort of got them 93 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: a little by surprise. 94 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 7: But it was a brilliant It was brilliant tactically, it 95 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 7: was an incredible thing. 96 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Well, it really is a tribute to the United States military, 97 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: President Trump having the colonies to make this call and 98 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: then our military to carry it out. Now, I will 99 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: say this, there are real strong signs that leftovers in 100 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: the regime of Nicholas Maduro are still trying to hold 101 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: a very violent grip on that country. We have heard 102 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: the journalists have been arrested there. We have heard that 103 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: anybody celebrating the capture of Nicholas Maduro is being arrested. 104 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: So a lot of work to do there. This as 105 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: the United States mainstream media shows some kind of sympathy 106 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: for this violent dictator. 107 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 8: But she did appear in court yesterday with numerous bandages 108 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 8: on her forehead according to court sketches of the hearing yesterday, 109 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 8: and Maduro, of course, he also had trouble kind of 110 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 8: standing up and sitting down. So you know, all of 111 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 8: this kind of ads to the color surrounding the operation 112 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 8: and the fact that it was much more chaotic than 113 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 8: I think people originally assumed. 114 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: These people are ding dongs. Well, I'm sorry that Maduro's 115 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: wife has some bruises on her head, and Nicholas Maduro, 116 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: an evil killer, has some injuries. Are you kidding me? 117 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: And more chaotic than we expected. You had Delta Force 118 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: going in in the dark of night in a firefight 119 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: with forces there to protect Maduro. Did anybody think it 120 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: wasn't chaotic? Of course it was chaotic. That's what happens 121 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: during a raid like this. But these ding dongs want somehow, 122 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, angel and unicorns to come in and somehow 123 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: just scoop everybody up and you end on a fluffy pillow. 124 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 1: This is why nobody watches CNN anymore. Now here's another 125 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: reason why nobody watches the View anymore, Woopy Goldberg. Listen 126 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: to what she said about the capture of Maduro. 127 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 9: Wow, perhaps no one is going to miss. 128 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: A tyrant like Maduro. Is this an illegal thing? I mean, 129 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: who voted for this? 130 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 9: Who said, hey, yeah, go on in there and do this. 131 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: Well, I could tell you who voted for this, and 132 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I could tell you who wanted this, not just the 133 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: Venezuelan people that finally have some relief. But I'll give 134 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: kudos where kudos are due. And a Navarro, a woman 135 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: I do not like very much, a woman that I 136 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: do not agree with anything on, but she's Nicaraguan and 137 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: she knows what it's like to live under a brutal regime, 138 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: and she pushed back against Woopy Goldberg. 139 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 6: Your question, who voted for this? 140 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 10: The people in South Florida, the Venezuelan community, the Cuban 141 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 10: America community, the Nicaraguan American community voted for this. And 142 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 10: for us, this is a very, very happy day. When 143 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 10: we see a dictator who has been part of oppressing 144 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 10: and abusing the Venezuelan people for twenty five years, when 145 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 10: we see him in handcuffs and held to some sort 146 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 10: of accountability. It brought me into two tears. It brought 147 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 10: me great joy. 148 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm proud of her for saying what's legit. The reality 149 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: is she proved what I always say, politics are always 150 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: selfish politics. She's from Nicaragua, She's right. But here's who 151 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: else voted for this. A gringo like me, I wanted 152 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: relief for the people of Venezuela. So it's not just 153 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: the Hispanic community. Of Venezuelan community, the Nicaraguan community. It's 154 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: anybody who embraces freedom. I want to bring in now 155 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: a guy who understandably embraces the idea of freedom. Real 156 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: America's Voice correspondent who is live for us in Mexico tonight, 157 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: Oscar Ramirez is with us. Oscar, welcome to the program. 158 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 4: Grant thinking for the invitation. Has always an honor to 159 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 4: be with him. 160 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: Well, the honor is mind. Oscar. You had provided us 161 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: with some photos and maybe you're as you're talking, your 162 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: sources inside ven as well sent some photos to you 163 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: of the damage of people that were injured killed in this. 164 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: I say, people those defending Nicholas Maduro, amazing photos. But 165 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Venezuela is by no means out of the woods yet. 166 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: Can you tell me what you're hearing from your sources 167 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: inside Venezuela. 168 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 6: Oscar, yes, Granda. 169 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 11: Around like seven or eight days ago, we were at 170 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 11: this border and we broke the news that we said 171 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 11: there's high tensions and there's a deployment at the every border. 172 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 6: We knew that something was going to happen. 173 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: Then the extraction. 174 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 11: But a lot of people need to understand this is 175 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 11: not even a dictator. This is a narco terrorist that 176 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 11: he runs a criminal organization that is called Cartel del Solz, 177 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 11: that he was trafficking all types of illegal and illicit 178 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 11: situations like illicit substances into with Cartel Sinaloa in Mexico 179 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 11: and cartel to penetrate and to contaminate the United States 180 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 11: of America. There's other two bad actors that they need 181 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 11: to be extracted in that already. Marco Riuo said, you 182 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 11: complained about extracting Jesnicuo la Madula. Imagine if I would 183 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 11: have extracted the three of them, you would have been 184 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 11: crying right now. So these two bad actors are the 185 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 11: ones that you're oppressing the population right now of Venezuela. 186 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 11: Diosdado Caveo and Padrino Lopez. These are really really bad people. 187 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 11: These people run the criminal organizations. They're running a collective 188 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 11: group of motorcycle people to threatening the population of Venezuela. 189 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 6: At this moment, Granted. 190 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: Oscar, it seems like the plan for the Trump administration 191 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: is to say, hey, look what we can do. You 192 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: better do things that are in America's best interest. Here, 193 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: We're going to give you some free reign to start 194 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: to work this out as we take over the oil. 195 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: How do we push back against these guys who are 196 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: doing horrible things right now to anybody that shows any 197 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: kind of happiness about what went down over the weekend. 198 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 11: Well, they have to be extracted, that's the next thing. 199 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 11: And they need to pressure uh De Rodrige said death. 200 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 11: She's the one that is stepped into the play to 201 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 11: run the you know, to run the country. So they 202 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 11: need to absolutely pressure this. You know, this guy Zado 203 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 11: Caveo today he called that if he continues to be threatened, 204 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 11: he will ask for Iran for firearms. And they you know, 205 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 11: yesterday they were having a confusion and a firefight in 206 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 11: the middle of Caracas because there were drones that they 207 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 11: were flying around. These drones are mohayed. These drones were 208 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 11: made way the intelligence of Iran. So they have all this, 209 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 11: you know, situations that are continuously happening, and of course 210 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 11: Iranian intelligence is involved with these people. But these two individuals, 211 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 11: these two bad actors, they need to immediately be extracted 212 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 11: or they need to be immediately stopped. That is the 213 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 11: number one goal. These are the people that they're terrorizing, 214 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 11: the Venezuelan Venezuelan people without these two people being extracted, 215 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 11: it is going to be completely difficult. 216 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: Granted, all right, I'm. 217 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: Sure the Trump administration is well away of what you're 218 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: saying here. It'll be interesting. President Trump didn't rule out 219 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: a second wave, so we shall see what happens on 220 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: that front. I am curious, though. You just came from Colombia. 221 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: Columbia is another very bad actor in the drug trafficking 222 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: of deadly drugs into America. Listen to what President Trump 223 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: said about that today on Air Force One. 224 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 9: Colombia is very sick to run by a sick man 225 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 9: who likes making cocaine and selling it to the United States. 226 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 9: And he's not going to be doing it very long. 227 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: Let me tell you what does that mean. 228 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: If you're all going to be doing it very long. 229 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 9: He's not doing it very low. He has cocaine mills 230 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 9: and cocaine factories. He's not going to be. 231 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 12: Doing it for so there will be an operation by 232 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 12: the US move it sounds good to me. 233 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: Sounds good to me. The President says, I don't underestimate 234 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: President Trump at all when he says there's a possibility 235 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: of this. What do you think happens in Columbia? Oscar. 236 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: What needs to happen in Colombia. 237 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 11: Look, Grant Maduro was yelling to his public, come and 238 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 11: get me coward. 239 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 6: Just a couple of days ago. 240 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 11: Petro also was yelling to President Donald Trump, come and 241 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 11: get me coward. So don't be asking what you presently. 242 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 11: Don't think that it's going to happen if he continues, 243 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 11: you know, making the tons and tons of cocaine with 244 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 11: laboratories with geery Yedo groups that they are basically, you know, 245 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 11: in charge of these ports of entry, pedest in ports 246 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 11: of entry like l in La Farque, that these are terrorists, 247 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 11: Geary Yedo groups that they're located, and then they construct 248 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 11: and they made all these laboratories to traffic cocaine to 249 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 11: the north of the continent. You know, you're asking for it, 250 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 11: and I believe the United States of America has an 251 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 11: incredible strategy. This what just happened on the extraction of Madudo, 252 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 11: it is history, ladies and gentlemen. It is history for 253 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 11: Latin America. It is history for everybody. And you know, 254 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 11: Donald Trump just created the enormous arrangement of peace and 255 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 11: ending of socialism in South America. 256 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: I would say it's also certainly a warning to guys 257 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: like Gustavo Pietro. You know, before he took office, Colombia 258 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: was on a basically a rebound, a successful track. I've 259 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: got a friend who owns a condo and Median says, 260 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: it's a lovely, very metropolis city loves going down. There 261 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: are Americans in danger now in Colombia. Should you be 262 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: in mediine after all this is happening and with the 263 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: with the stance that this president. 264 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 6: Is taking, well, if the tensions rise, yes, absolutely. 265 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 11: As I was, you know, in the borders with with 266 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 11: with Colombia and Venezuela, Americans are completely in danger. Inside 267 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 11: of Venezuela, they're kidnapping their own people. But in terms 268 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 11: of Colombia, yes, if the tensions rise, it is going 269 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 11: to be extremely difficult for Americans to stay in the 270 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 11: part of Colombia. They're going to be targeted or they're 271 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 11: going to be closing the embassy, the United States embassy 272 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 11: in Colombia. A lot of restrictions are going to be 273 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 11: in terms of Americans. Just recently, Petro just signalized that 274 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 11: he doesn't want drones to be flown in the capital 275 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 11: of Bobota in certain places the things that it will 276 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 11: be a threat to particularly gather information or intelligence against him. 277 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 11: So he knows that steps are on his doorstep, so 278 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 11: you know something is particularly needs to happen immediately in 279 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 11: that area. 280 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: Well, the next topic we need to talk about, and 281 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: maybe we say it for later on this week, Oscar 282 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: is we have Mexico and we have the cartels there. 283 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: Mexico is a very different situation where a big trade 284 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: partner with Mexico. It's a little more of a dance 285 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: you may have to play there. But I'd love to 286 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: get your thoughts later on about what we do with 287 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: the president of Mexico, what we do with the cartels. 288 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: I've been open and honest about saying we need to 289 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: wage war inside Mexico on the cartels and by hooker, 290 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: by cook, I don't care what the President of Mexico says, 291 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: real quick, ten seconds your thoughts. 292 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 6: He needs to She's going to cave in. 293 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: Everybody is going to cave in. 294 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 11: And you know, the Trump administration has done nothing something 295 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 11: that nobody else has done. That he exposure a dirty politicians, 296 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 11: you know, basically signalizing that the cart those are terrorist organizations. 297 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 11: That's a huge start Let's see how she caves in 298 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 11: with pressure. That's the strategy that Trump administrition. 299 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: That's done. 300 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: Well, you heard it from Oscar Ramirez, the president of Mexico, 301 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: Will cave. I would not bet against Oscar here. Nobody 302 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: knows that region better than you. Oscar Ramirez. Thank you 303 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: for coming on tonight as always, my friend, Thank you 304 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: so much. Rank Absolutely all right. I want to turn 305 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: out of the case against Maduro. I actually believe it 306 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: is a very very good one. This is Jonathan Turley 307 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: of Fox News. 308 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 13: If Maduro thought the operation was scary, wait till he 309 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 13: reads the superseding indictment. I mean, it is really scary 310 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 13: if you're on the defense side. They've got a lot 311 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 13: including potentially high ranking cooperating witnesses. 312 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: Well, he's talking about El Pollio. Of course, that is 313 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: Hugo Carver Hall, who was basically now in a federal 314 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: prison in the United States after running decades of operations 315 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: for Nicholas Maduro and Hugo Chavez. He knows everything about 316 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: what's going on there. And also I would remind you 317 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: we had on that former Venezuelan hostage, the US Air 318 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: Force veteran who has taken hostage he says he has 319 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: soldiers reaching out to him now to testify against Maduro. 320 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: Quite stunning. I want to bring in the vice president 321 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: of legal affairs at Landmark Legal Foundation, Michael J. O'Neil 322 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: is with us. Michael, it's great to have you on 323 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: the program. 324 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 4: Good to be with you, Grant, how are you today. 325 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm great, Michael. So you know, when I look at 326 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: Hugo Carver Hall, who's El Polio, I think of Sammy 327 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: the bol Gravano testifying against against you know, John Gotti, 328 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: the Gambino crime family boss. A jury's gonna have the 329 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: weigh Are you saying this because you want favor with 330 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: the government or you're afraid of being killed by these 331 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: EVA people? And how much do you believe you think 332 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: this is a problem for the government. 333 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 14: I don't think necessarily it's a problem for the government. 334 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 14: Obviously they're going to have to present them in the 335 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 14: best possible light. I think this is an individual who, 336 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 14: if I'm not mistaken, wrote that extensive letter laying out 337 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 14: the bill of particular is regarding the activities of the 338 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 14: Maduro regime, which kind of laid out in so many words, 339 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 14: emphasized the fact that he was operating a narco terrorist regime, 340 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 14: that he wasn't a legitimate leader of any kind of country. 341 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 14: He was, as your previous guest had said, the head 342 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 14: of the Cartel de la soult. So I think that 343 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 14: the witnesses, obviously they're going to be gathered and presented 344 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 14: in front of a jury in New York, are going 345 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 14: to be presented in the best possible life. Obviously they're 346 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 14: going to be subject across examination. The lawyers that are 347 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 14: representing Madureau are sophisticated, smart lawyers, so there is going 348 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 14: to be. 349 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 6: A full airing of all of the evidence. 350 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 14: But I do think the government's indictment, as Professor Turley 351 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 14: had indicated, is very strong. I think the evidence is strong, 352 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 14: and I think the US government knows exactly how to 353 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 14: prosecute these sources of cases. Think back to the Manuel 354 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 14: Noriega prosecution from the nineteen nineties. As president here. 355 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had talked about Noriega and the prosecution. Basically 356 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: he made the same arguments that Maduro is set to make. 357 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: It was virtually the same charges about trafficking drugs in 358 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: to the United States. The difference, and I'm curious, Michael 359 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: is obviously a different time when Noriego was captured, we 360 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: didn't have radical courts. At least it doesn't seem like 361 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: we have radical courts like we have now. And then 362 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: when I hear this is happening in New York, I 363 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: get all tense about what's going to happen there. I 364 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: see this ninety two year old judge who's overseeing it 365 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: at Clinton appointee, seems to be and maybe correct me 366 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. A decent judge, Democrat, but ninety two 367 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: years old oversaw some September Eleventh cases. How do you 368 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: see the courts handling this? And should we be concerned 369 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: now with this radical ideology that's kind of infiltrated our 370 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 1: court system. 371 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 6: I don't think. 372 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 14: I'm not really concerned about the court system or this 373 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 14: particular judge. I think he's gonna call balls and strikes here. 374 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 14: The president is fairly strong. It's out of the Eleventh Circuit, 375 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 14: so it's not necessarily controlling to the New York courts, 376 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 14: but it is president and it is directly applicable. This 377 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 14: is the Eleventh Circuit decision regarding the Norriega issues. So 378 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 14: I think that the courts are going to look for 379 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 14: guidance to that, and I think this judge is going 380 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 14: to call balls and strikes, though there is a potential 381 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 14: roadblock here, or a speed bump, if you will. And 382 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 14: of course this is the venue, and you were talking 383 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 14: about the judicial system. This is a fairly blue area 384 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 14: of the country, as we all know. So there is 385 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 14: going to be a selection of a jury pool from 386 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 14: people who might be predisposed to be against President Trump 387 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 14: or his agenda. And the question is whether they're going 388 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 14: to bring those biases into a courtroom, and whether the 389 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 14: prosecutions are going to be able to identify those individuals 390 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 14: who might not be able to objectively analyze the facts 391 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 14: that evidence presented to them and in impugning their kind 392 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 14: of own biases to maybe sidetrack this prosecution. But again, 393 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 14: at the Southern District of New York, that's chock full 394 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 14: of experienced prosecutors who know what they're doing. It's not 395 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 14: a coincidence that it was brought there in that kit, 396 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 14: in that jurisdiction. But again, thinking about the jury pool, 397 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 14: that's something that we should all be aware of going forward. 398 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 4: But that's not for months yet. 399 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: You know, for a long time New York was thought 400 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: to at least have a decent jury pool on cases 401 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: like this, especially after nine to eleven, knowing how they 402 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: were affected by terrorism. But this is a city run 403 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: by a governor that literally lit up Freedom Tower in 404 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: Hamas Green in recognition of Muslim Month. I mean that 405 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: in New York City. If you would have told me 406 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: that on you know, September eleventh, two thousand and four, 407 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: I would have been out of my mind. So I think, 408 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, things have changed. But let's hope, because the 409 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: worst thing that could happen is this guy skates, Yeah, 410 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: and I don't. 411 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 14: See that happening. And even if he worst case scenario said, 412 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 14: there's a not guilty verdict, hopefully by then there's some 413 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 14: stability in Venezuela. He's so he could be maybe repatriated 414 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 14: and tried in Venezuela for crimes there. Keep in mind 415 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 14: Norriego was tried in the United States, served prison time 416 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 14: in the United States, but was extradited to France afterwards 417 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 14: and was tried in France and then returned to Panama 418 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 14: and tried in Panama. 419 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 4: So although it might be the bite. 420 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 14: At the apple for the US judicial system, and again 421 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 14: I have confidence in the prosecution of the prosecutors in 422 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 14: the Southern District of New York. It probably isn't the 423 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 14: end of the road when it turns when it comes 424 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 14: to all types of prosecution for him. So presumably by 425 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 14: the time we're talking months and months down the road, 426 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 14: there will be some stability within Venezuela and there will 427 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 14: be some sort of semblance of a judicial system that's 428 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 14: going to be relatively objective there as well. 429 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: Well would the Landmark Legal Foundation. Michael J. O'Neil, great 430 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: assessment on all of this. I appreciate you coming in 431 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: and laying it out for us tonight. 432 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 6: Thank you, Thanks Gren, have a great day, absolutely. 433 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: You two. I think some good takeaways from that is 434 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: this guy's not going anywhere. 435 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 6: He's not getting off. 436 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: There's so many ways to go down no matter what happens. 437 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: That Maduro's in some deep, deep trouble, all right. A 438 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: new year means new financial goals, like making sure your 439 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: savings are secure and diversified. So until January thirtieth, if 440 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: you're a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold is offering 441 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: a rebate of up to ten thousand dollars on qualifying 442 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: purchases to claim eligibility and start the process. 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Claim your eligibility today again, 451 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: Text America to the number nine eight nine eight nine eight. 452 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: All right, Minnesota is just the tip of the iceberg. 453 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: There is more massive fraud coming to light in several well, 454 00:23:54,440 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: let's just say Blue states. Go figure, we'll get into that. Next. 455 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: Fraud is unfolding across the country, mostly in blue states 456 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: and blue cities. Ground zero right now, of course, is Minnesota, 457 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: where Governor Tim Walls is under fire for basically letting 458 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: it all happen, enabling it to happen. But instead of 459 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: taking responsibility for his actions and resigning right now, what 460 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: she should do? Instead, he says this. 461 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 15: Every minute that I spend defending my own political interest 462 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 15: would be a minute I can't spend defending the people 463 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 15: of Minnesota against the criminals who pray on our generosity 464 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 15: and the cynics who want to pray on our differences. 465 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 15: So I've decided to step out of this race and 466 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 15: I'll let others worry about the election while I focus 467 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 15: on the work that's in front of me for the 468 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 15: next year. 469 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: So he's going to step out of the race. But 470 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: that's not good enough. He ought to step down, and 471 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: I believe there is the possibility of criminal charges against 472 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: him if it comes out that he or Keith Ellison, 473 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: the Attorney General, was there some evidence that he was 474 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: aware of the fraud going on, not only knew about it, 475 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: but enabled it and did nothing about it. I believe 476 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: there's some criminal liability there for Governor Walls. As of course, 477 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: President Trump floods border patrol two thousand agents headed to 478 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota right now. This is a blue state problem, though 479 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: it's not just Minnesota. Turn into Massachusetts. We're learning more 480 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: about Haitian fraud in Massachusetts. Apparently, these Snap Benefits stores 481 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: are doing upwards of one hundred to five hundred thousand 482 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: a month with no customers and no food. 483 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 16: Owned the soul Mache mix A store. These two businesses 484 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 16: were co located within a single storefront in Boston. To 485 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 16: be certain, these were not supermarkets, They were not full 486 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 16: service grocery. It would be a huge stretch to even 487 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 16: call them convenience stores. In fact, the only thing convenient 488 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 16: about these stores was how easy it was to commit 489 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 16: snap benefit fraud. 490 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: Upwards, as she says in the indictment, five hundred thousand 491 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: a month some stores, and they can't even be considered stores. 492 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: And then, of course there's California. California maybe the Titanic 493 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: of fraud. Okay, here's President Trump. 494 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 7: We got to straighten this out before it gets too crazy. 495 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 7: California is more corrupt than any place. California is more 496 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 7: corrupt than Minnesota. And I won Minnesota a lot. Toms Gordon, 497 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 7: I think so well, can't be proportionately, probably nothing smo 498 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 7: her up right. 499 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: Well, California's very corrupt. Who's the leader of California, Gavin Newsom? 500 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: What does Gavin Newsom say about the governor of minnes 501 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: So to Tim Walls just tells you all you need 502 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: to know. Tim Wolls is a man of character. He 503 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: tweets strength and compassion. He has served Minnesota with heart 504 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: and dignity that from Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom maybe calling 505 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: Tim Wolves a man of character and dignity because he 506 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: knows that Tim Wolls has none, just as Gavin Newsom 507 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 1: has none. Gavin Newsom may be worse off when we 508 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: get into this than Tim Walls. Is sit on that 509 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: for a moment. I want to bring in now to 510 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: discuss this. Republican member of the California State Assembly, David 511 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: Tomy Paw is with US Assembly minut It's great to 512 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: have you on the program. 513 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 6: It's always great to join you. 514 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: All right, Gavin Newsom compared to Tim Walls, what's your thoughts? 515 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 17: Well, like you said in the beginning, Minnesota's just a 516 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 17: tip of the iceberg. But what's going to sink the 517 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 17: ship is California. And that's what I think is what's 518 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 17: going to do it for the Democratic Party to realize 519 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 17: that the American people are being stolen from and we 520 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 17: are not doing enough to call it out. And some 521 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 17: of our colleagues. The governor of California is defending the 522 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 17: governor of Minnesota when he knew about this, when departments 523 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 17: within his own state said it. 524 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 6: Is this bad. 525 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 17: Jim Walls was almost our vice president. We were going 526 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 17: to allow him to fail his way upwards. And now 527 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 17: Governor knew someone wants to be the president of the 528 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 17: United States. This is why journalism is so important. And 529 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 17: what I really like to think about is how the 530 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 17: American Revolution started because of a two percent tax on 531 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 17: an English breakfast drink. And right now we have the 532 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 17: highest income tax, the highest property taxes, the highest grocery cost, 533 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 17: all of that in the state of California, and yet 534 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 17: we are not angry enough. And now we know that 535 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 17: they're using the money to steal from us, to backfill 536 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 17: pockets into donations to then make sure that they're taking 537 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 17: the budget and reallocating that back for fraud, waste, and abuse. 538 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 17: The people of America and the people of California need 539 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 17: to step up, demand better and say no to Gavin 540 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 17: Newsom and no more fraud. 541 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna lay something on your shoulders, which 542 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be a lot to lay on your shoulders. 543 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: And really there's only a few other Republicans in your 544 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: state that can help you. If you folks there in 545 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: Sacramento don't be at the heart of uncovering the real 546 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 1: fraud in California. You have the ability to stop Gavin 547 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: Newsom's presidential aspirations in its tracks. The national media isn't 548 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: going to do it. I believe it's got to come 549 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: from Republicans in Sacramento to uncover this and ultimately let 550 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: conservative media run with whatever you find. But this is 551 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: about saving the country now by exposing Gavin Newsom. Your 552 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on that, Assemblyman. 553 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 6: Grant, I'll tell you this right now. 554 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 17: I will sign up for that when I ran for office, 555 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 17: I tell everybody I signed up for suffering. And we're 556 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 17: going to see some pain and abuse. And I have 557 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 17: a new record here in Sacramento. I am the fastest 558 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 17: legislator to be kicked off of committees, and they didn't 559 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 17: even give me a chance to call them corrupt. Now 560 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 17: we know how to find it. Now we know how 561 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 17: they've messed up. They've gotten way over their skis. They 562 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 17: thought they'd get away with it forever. But I'm sorry. 563 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 17: There's a new group of Republicans up here in Sacramento 564 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 17: that are going to hold this state account accountable. And 565 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 17: I don't care if they kicked me off committees. I 566 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 17: don't care if they removed me from being a part 567 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 17: of the conversation. When we find out where all of 568 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 17: this fraud is going. Why certain nonprofits are going from 569 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 17: two million dollar allocations a year to thirty five million 570 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 17: dollars a year to having their administrative costs exceed over 571 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 17: forty to fifty percent and not providing a single general 572 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 17: benefit or any nonprofit services. Yet they can spend over 573 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 17: a million dollars on lobbying. We know exactly what the 574 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 17: state of California is doing. I'll tell you this right now. 575 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 17: We'll keep you up there, and we've got a lot 576 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 17: to talk about once we uncover this entire thing. 577 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: You know, there's so many places to start. You've got 578 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: the high speed rail billion spent, basically no tracks laid. 579 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: You've got homelessness twenty four billion dollars and homelessness continues 580 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: to increase. Where's the money going? Is there one spot, assemblymen, 581 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: where you want to dig in that you think is 582 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: right right now to expose. 583 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 17: Really do one. There's a lot I've done on the 584 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 17: on a high speed rail. I worked with Secretary Duffy 585 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 17: and the reason why they pulled back that four billion dollars. 586 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 17: Here's one aspect I'll give you really quickly, is there's 587 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 17: a clause in high speed rail called non execution, a 588 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 17: contract where contractors are owed one hundred and seventy thousand 589 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 17: dollars a day if there are any delays whatsoever. We've 590 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 17: been able to find out that over eight hundred million 591 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 17: dollars has been paid out on that clause, which means 592 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 17: they paid eight hundred million dollars for zero work to 593 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 17: be done on a parcel because they parked equipment. That's 594 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 17: what's happening with the California tax payer of money then. 595 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 17: And we've also been able to find out on different 596 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 17: social programs, whether it's SNAP, but also the NGO industrial 597 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 17: complex is something that I think is beyond dangerous. I 598 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 17: talked about a couple groups like SHERLA that we've heard 599 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 17: Congressman Kevin Kylie talk about. There's something else there. There's 600 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 17: another one that's there, which has to do with social 601 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 17: entrepreneurs for economic development, which gives cash payer assistance to 602 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 17: illegal immigrants, not to the American people. When one out 603 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 17: of every five Californian right now can't afford their own 604 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 17: utility rates, and we are giving money away to fraud, waste, 605 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 17: and abuse. This whole iceberg. I'm going to need your 606 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 17: help on to uncover this is what's going to sink 607 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 17: the ship, and this is what's going to save America 608 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 17: and really put us back on track. 609 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, Assemblymen, we're here. As you 610 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: start to uncover any of this stuff, you just let 611 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: us know and will help push it out to as 612 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: many of the conservative media outlets as we can, including 613 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: here on Real America's Voice, because it's going to take 614 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: a total team effort to stop Gavin Newsom. Save the 615 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: taxpayers at California your money, and really taxpayers in just 616 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: about every state money because this is going on across 617 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: the country. But Assembly Minute, it's great to have you 618 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: on the program. Where can people find you? 619 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 6: It's an easy name to find me. 620 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 17: It's David tongky Pap tang Ipa is the easiest way 621 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 17: to spell it. I do have a beer named after me. 622 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 17: Most people can't say my last name, but they can 623 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 17: at least drink it. But if they look that up, 624 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 17: they'll find me on any social media Instagram, Facebook, it's Polynesian, 625 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 17: it's only mine, so it's a pretty easy one to find. 626 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: Assemblymen. Toky Pop been getting better at your name as 627 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: the years and months go on. I appreciate all the 628 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: work you do. Thanks for coming on, thank you for 629 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: having me. Absolutely all right, folks, As today is the 630 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: five year anniversary of January sixth, you need to check 631 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: out Rav's new J six documentary, The Sleeping Giant, available 632 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: now on our new and improved mobile app. Just scan 633 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: that QR code on your screen right there to get 634 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: started and up next. As I mentioned, today is the 635 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: fifth anniversary of January sixth, and there is still no retribution. 636 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: We will talk about it with a J six or 637 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine coming up next. Welcome back everyone. 638 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: On the fifth anniversary of January sixth, the White House 639 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: has released a new web page on the official White 640 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: House website. It goes through the timeline of January sixth, 641 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: explaining the truth about what happened that day. The reality 642 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: is we had literally hundreds of people show up on 643 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: the Capitol steps today five years later, most of them 644 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: Jay six ers because they're angry. There still has not 645 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: been retribution to those that persecuted them. Listen to Sarah mccabee, 646 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: a J sixer herself. 647 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 18: Ninety five percent of America has forgotten because on January twentieth, 648 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 18: with the stroke of a pen, they prison It is 649 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 18: not over. They went home to broken families, They sold 650 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 18: their homes, they lost their cars, seventy two percent of them. 651 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 18: Where veterans are law enforcement officers, their rights need to 652 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 18: be restored, especially for those twelve that are still not pardon. 653 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 18: The fight is far from over. 654 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: Emotionally, financially, families you name it, I mean time taken 655 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: from them, from the people that served so long in 656 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,479 Speaker 1: prison for absolutely no reason. There are some pretty darn 657 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: good things that had come out of this. And I 658 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: always say, out of every tragedy, and this was a tragedy, 659 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: there are some good things that happen, like the story 660 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: of my buddy Jonathan Strand. He was a J six 661 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: political prisoner. He is now a Republican congressional candidate in Florida. 662 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: My man John Strand is here. John, Welcome back, Grant. 663 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 6: It's always great to be with you. 664 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. And boy, what 665 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: an important and somber day. 666 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 12: Like you said, but I'm glad that you're highlighting this 667 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 12: very important issue. 668 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: All right, John, I'll just say this. When you first 669 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: went into prison, and I want to say, you were 670 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: Simone Golds, doctor Simone Gold's bodyguard. You did nothing we've 671 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: tracked your movements. I'm not going to relitigate that. But 672 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: you did nothing that day wrong. You went into prison. 673 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: I was communicating you. You were cut off from me 674 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: and so many others. They would not allow you. If 675 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: I would have said you'd be running for Congress in 676 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, five years ago or four years ago, 677 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: I never would have thought this day would have come. 678 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 4: My friend me neither. 679 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 12: But it's amazing what God can do through the darkest 680 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 12: of times to really bring into focus what matters, what 681 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 12: we care about, what we're fighting for. Grant, you and 682 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 12: I have both been fighting for truth and liberty and 683 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 12: justice in America really for much of our lives. But 684 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 12: in the last few years since the COVID chaos, that 685 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 12: really crystallized things in January sixth followed soon after when 686 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 12: the uniparty deep state clearly tried to rig and steal 687 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 12: an election. We have concrete proof of that now, as 688 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 12: well as concrete proof that Jay six was a setup. 689 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 12: But yeah, it really galvanized me. The government tried to 690 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 12: destroy me, Grant, and and they've tried to destroy many 691 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 12: j six er state. They have destroyed many, as Sarah 692 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 12: mcabee just noted that's really heartbreaking. But I just want 693 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 12: to urge people to realize twenty twenty six is our 694 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 12: generations seventeen seventy six. This is not the midterms. This 695 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 12: is the final countdown to decide if we are going 696 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 12: to engage in our government, take back our country, reclaim 697 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 12: the Republic, as I am saying at Johnstrand dot com, 698 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 12: and Yeah, I've been galvanized into a patriot warrior that 699 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 12: I love this country, I'll do anything to save it, 700 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 12: and God's called me to step forward and run for 701 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 12: Congress in Florida nineteen. 702 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: John, you were in prison for how long again? 703 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 4: Three hundred and sixty six days. 704 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 12: It was a leap year and I served one year, 705 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 12: then released because I was innocent, vindicated by the Supreme Court, 706 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 12: and then fully exonerated when the DJ vacated all charges 707 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 12: even without a pardon. 708 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: Have you've gotten all of your full rights back? I mean, 709 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: if you were to go buy a firearm, were you 710 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 1: able to do that? Is all the paperwork done to restore. 711 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 4: Your rights completely done? 712 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah? 713 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 12: The DJ vacated all charges, which means they never existed. 714 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 12: There is no criminal record, there is no case, there 715 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 12: is no charge. So I am fresh as the clean 716 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 12: driven snow, as they say. But I'm going to take 717 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 12: that energy into Congress on August eighteenth, of twenty twenty six. 718 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 12: That's the primary. But in Florida nineteen, that's the entire election. 719 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 12: It's an open field without an incumbent. We can win 720 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 12: this if we get enough patriots to go to Johnstrand 721 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 12: dot com. We have to give them to donate and 722 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 12: share because this campaign is not funded by the establishment. 723 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 12: Our mission is to dismantle the uniparty establishment and actually 724 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 12: return power to the people. 725 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: Well, you know you have my support on all of this, 726 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: and I want to remind everybody John was offered a 727 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: plead deal like some own Gold was refuse to take 728 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: it because he said, I'm innocent. Well of courts basically 729 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: turn their back on him through the radical ideology of 730 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: our court system today. What are you most frustrated about now, John? 731 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, really, nobody has paid a price for what 732 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: they did to you and the thousands of others that day. 733 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 12: It's true, and that could not be more frustrating. Grant, 734 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 12: not just to me, I know that all Americans all 735 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 12: across the country are furious, and they should be. They're 736 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 12: also furious that their government is stealing all of their money. 737 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 12: The Somali day care fraud story has touched a nerve 738 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 12: and it's really just taken the emperor's new clothes that 739 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 12: don't exist off to show that just the naked corruption 740 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 12: of Congress and our federal government that large in our 741 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 12: entire governmental system, there's just a huge lack of courage 742 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 12: and of virtue. And it's just time for American patriots, 743 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 12: American citizens all across the country to roll up their 744 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 12: sleeves to get back. 745 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 4: Engaged in their government. 746 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 12: And I'm going to do my part, but I need 747 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 12: everyone to help join me at Johnstrand dot com and 748 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 12: we're going to really fight for justice and accountability. 749 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 4: We're going to fight for the truth. 750 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 12: To be delivered and for arrests to happen and for 751 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 12: prosecutions to be happening, because we need justice to be 752 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 12: delivered for the people. 753 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, because I do like to 754 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,959 Speaker 1: name names on this real quick if you can, because 755 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm running short on time. Here, is there one person 756 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: that you want, maybe from your case or what you 757 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: saw on January sixth, the first person that should be 758 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: hauled into court in handcuffs and held accountable for this. Well. 759 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 12: I mean, my federal prosecutor was mister Jason Manning, who's 760 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 12: already been fired appropriately, but he lied directly in court. 761 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 12: April airs Perez was another prosecutor who I'm not sure 762 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 12: she's been fired, but she lied in open court. That's 763 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 12: criminal activity under color of law to deprive me of 764 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 12: my rights. And the judges in the DC District, all 765 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 12: of them, literally all of them. My judge was Christopher Cooper, 766 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 12: no exception, but all the DC judges are corrupt. 767 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 4: It's travesty. 768 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 12: And as a congressman, I pledged the American people I 769 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 12: will be fighting to completely abolish the DC District Court, 770 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 12: which never should have been created in the first place. 771 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 12: The District Columby does not need a federal court system. 772 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 12: It's only supposed to be the seat of the federal government, 773 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 12: not a city itself. 774 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 4: So that's one of the fight for in Congress. 775 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad I asked you that question, because Congress does 776 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: have the right to do that. They can set the 777 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: courts up however they want. John Strand, I wish you 778 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: the best of luck in your race for Congress. Anything 779 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: I can do to help you one more time the 780 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: website super. 781 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 12: Quick Johnstrand dot com Patriot for Congress and I will 782 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 12: never stand down and never sell out in the fight 783 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 12: for freedom in America. 784 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: I can back him up on that. I believe you, 785 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: John John Strand, thank you my friend as always. And 786 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: right now you need to check out iTunes the J 787 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: six Prison Choir's new hit single, Anthem of the Free. 788 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: Keep this song at the top of the charts by 789 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: downloading it now. Just scan that QR code on your screen. 790 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,919 Speaker 1: Their full album, Album of the Free, is due out 791 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: later this month as well, and this fifth anniversary of 792 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: January sixth, we learn more about the hardship still facing 793 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: these patriots and how you can help them. Next, Welcome 794 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: back everyone. So the question is how do you help 795 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: those suffering from what the government, our government did to 796 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: the men and women who were at the Capitol on 797 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: January sixth. They are victims of political persecution. Well, I 798 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: want to bring in now one of those individuals who 799 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: was persecuted himself from our DC studios. The founder of 800 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: Standing the Gap, an organization dedicated to getting J six 801 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: political prisoners their lives back, Shane Jenkins, was sentenced. I 802 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: don't know, Shane. What was it eighty four months they 803 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: gave you before Prisident Trump pardoned you. 804 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 19: Yes, sir, I got eighty four months. I did fourteen 805 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 19: hundred and eighteen days or forty six and a half 806 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 19: months in custody. 807 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, well sorry you had to go through all that. 808 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad President Trump pardon you. But here you get 809 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: out and you start this organization stand in the gap. 810 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: Why don't you tell me what you guys are focused on. 811 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I actually started it. 812 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 19: I cast the vision for it on the inside two 813 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 19: years prior to my release, and I had been doing 814 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 19: nonprofit work with the prison industry. You got to go 815 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 19: back into prisons and share the gospel message because that 816 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 19: is the. 817 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 3: Main mission, the eternal missage. 818 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 19: But to talk about standing in the gap, we we 819 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 19: are helping January six ers right now. We are helping 820 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 19: them put their lives back together and if they need, 821 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 19: if their money, they fall, they lose a job, falling 822 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 19: short on their rent, or whatever it is. 823 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 3: We want to be there to. 824 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 19: Walk right alongside them, to stand in the gap, as 825 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 19: we say, for them. 826 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: And so, yes, sir, what's the biggest problem facing j 827 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: six ers? When they call you for help, what's the 828 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: biggest problem you see? 829 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 19: That's so there's many, many different problems. I think one 830 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 19: of the biggest things is, especially with the guys and 831 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 19: gals who did the most time, we suffered through the 832 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 19: extended periods of solitary confinement. They're talking multiple years on 833 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 19: my personal case, I did. 834 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 3: In solitary confinement. 835 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 19: So adapting back into society after you've already lost your family, 836 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 19: your home, your business, whatever it is, and trying to 837 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 19: put your life back together after you've suffered these traumas 838 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 19: from what you went through and being isolated and labeled 839 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 19: a domestic terrorists. It's very challenging not to mention the 840 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 19: fact that many people will pardon. If I go apply 841 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 19: for a job and they do a background check, they're 842 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 19: going to pull up my name and it's going to 843 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 19: say all my January sixth charges and in the end 844 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 19: and really find print, it's going to say pardon by 845 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 19: the President. So if I go to any job that 846 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 19: has any kind of leftists in HR or whatever, they're 847 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 19: going to throw my application in the trash or putting 848 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 19: them in the bottom. 849 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 3: Of the stack. 850 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 19: So there are multiple, multiple problems, But we want to 851 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 19: be there to walk alongside all these men and women. 852 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing. My buddy John Strand, who we 853 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: just had on he too was thrown into solitary confinement. 854 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: I've talked to so many individuals like yourself. Were you know, 855 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 1: that's punishment for evil, vile criminals that have done great 856 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: harm to Americans. Any common sense American would see this 857 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: was not a cool this was this was not anything 858 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: like that. And yet they treated you like Islamic holy 859 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: warriors trying to kill Americans. Crazy to me and thinking 860 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: back that nobody yet has been persecuted on the other 861 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: side were held accountable. The retribution just isn't there. 862 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 19: Shane right, No, and that's something that's something that we're 863 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 19: holding our breath waiting for, is accountability. 864 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 3: But it's funny that you say that. 865 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 19: We actually in the DC jail were denied visits for 866 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 19: two years, We were denied religious services for two years, 867 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 19: even denied haircuts for a year and fingernail clippers for 868 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 19: a year. So we actually wrote a letter to an 869 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 19: attorney and we requested to be moved to guantanam Obey 870 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 19: because we knew the actual nine to eleven terrorists were 871 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 19: receiving their halal meals, they were being allowed prayer time outside, 872 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 19: they were getting the things that they deserved. It was 873 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 19: actually published in Rolling Stone. But we I had been 874 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 19: to jail before and I had never been treated the 875 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 19: way we were treated by this DC jail. There needs 876 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 19: to be accountability, absolutely well. 877 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: They sure does, all right, Shane, Why don't you tell 878 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: people how they can help by getting with Stand in 879 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: the Gap? 880 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 19: Yes, sir, if you go to stand indegap dot foundation, 881 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 19: please check us out there. You can donate vehicles, you 882 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 19: can dote it. 883 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 3: It is the end of the year. You can donate 884 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 3: cash is good. 885 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 19: But we're also you know, we're fighting for all these 886 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 19: people and there's needs coming in all the time. I've 887 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 19: spoken to several J sixers today. They're trying to put 888 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 19: their lives back together. So drop us a five or 889 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 19: a ten or whatever. If you have a vehicle that's 890 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 19: sitting in your garage that one of your kids got 891 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,919 Speaker 19: rid of, doesn't need anymore, by all means donated to you, 892 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 19: you will get a tax write off for it. 893 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 3: So we appreciate it. 894 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: As I said earlier, there are some great things that 895 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: did come out of this tragedy. And your organization is 896 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 1: one of them. We appreciate you coming on the program. 897 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,280 Speaker 1: We're glad you're doing well, and thank you for helping others. 898 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, thank you, sir. 899 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, folks. President Trump reveals the first lady's 900 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: opinion on his dancing. What's wrong with his dancing? It's next? 901 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone, President Trump. Do I have time for it? 902 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: I don't know if I do. I think I'm gonna 903 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 1: have to save it for tomorrow. This is talking about 904 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: his dancing and what Malanias said will save it for tomorrow. 905 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: But what could possibly be wrong with the way President 906 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: Trump dance? I can't even I can't even do it, 907 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: but I try. Stinsfield's Army Rolls. Will see you tomorrow 908 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: night Phone