1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot Com. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the five and end 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: of the end zone for the touchdown. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Underground presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Pacificoffice dot com. Problem solved Garrison ties for the en zone, 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: he said, touchdown. The latest news and notes from the 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: insiders who cover the team. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray, that defender is in multiple pieces. 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: All that was nasty right there? 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo. 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody. 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic. 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: All right. You know what coaches say, it's week one 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: to week two. That's where you get the most growth, right, 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: the biggest learning curve, and then you apply it. So 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: let's get the week started. Hopefully this will be a 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: harbinger of the Panthers game Week two for the Cardinals. 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: Cardinals Underground. Danny Surrec looking incredulous already. Darren Urban Paul 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: Calvic harbinger is a good word there, Paul. You know, 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: I was in a store recently. Danny and I talked 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: about this briefly, never quite made air, so I thought 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: it'd make this analogy and then probably take the downfall 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: it was go something like this. I was in a store. 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: I don't do a lot of grocery shopping, admittedly, and 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: I saw something that gave me pause, a package of 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: meatless meatballs. And I pondered that for a long time, 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: stood there and I wondered, can you name something that 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: is actually devoid of the thing you named it after? 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: How can you have meatballs there's no meat? Not to 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: steal a line from an old Pink Floyd song, what 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: was it? How can you ever desert if you don't 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: eat your meat? 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: Why are you against inclusivity for vegetarians? 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: I mean, to be honest, Paul, I mean, if we're 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: just using the general catch all of meatballs, it's like saying, 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: I mean you could make kleenex without clean right. Okay, 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: that's not as bad example spelled differently, But I mean 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 3: my wife won't eat sushi unless there's no fish in it. 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: Does that really make it sushi? Those veggie sushi rolls 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: that's is not wouldn't that be an example? 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I'm overthinking it, but it did give 44 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: me pause. I did ponder it. 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: Fair. It's a fair point, but it's. 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: Still the meat rolled into a ball's not me Okay, 47 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 4: well whatever the bo Yeah, what would you call it? 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I thought it was very odd. 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: Honest meat. Meatless meatballs bothers me less than impossible meat. 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: I mean literally, if it's impossible, how the hell is 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: it even there? 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: Can I make hopefully what is not an inappropriate comment here? 53 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: Inappropriate? 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: We have talked about hobbies in the past, and if 55 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: you are getting worked up over meatless meatballs, you might 56 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: need to really focus on the body. 57 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: It really wasn't worked up or fired up. It was 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: just sort of confused. I was confounded by meatless meatballs 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: Italian and you know what, maybe true? And uh, you 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: know Nona CALVC dub best meatballs ever. Uh. But here's 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: my analogy. Maybe it's akin to the NFL preseason football 62 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: versus regular season football, right, I mean, is it really 63 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: football in the preseason You still call it football, but 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: it's not truly football until you get to the regular season. Hence, 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: you know, finally you get the meatball and it's not 66 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: meat liss like it is in August. There's my second. 67 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: You know, all this talk about football, I've just got 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: a state for the record as a quick aside that 69 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: ever since Buddha Baker lit me up in that press 70 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: conference in training camp that I noticed that everybody's when 71 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: they're talking about turnovers around here, the questions are all like, hey, 72 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: you said that you wanted to make sure that these 73 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: guys got their hands on more footballs this season. 74 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. There, yeah, there has been. 75 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: There's always we were close to a week with a bleep. 76 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: The attention to detail on the use of the word football, yeah, 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: has been next level. Really, it's been regular season ready 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: ever since Budha, since Darren you know, uh so that's good. 79 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: We won't bring up the what was it Michael Carter 80 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: press conference where he talked about having to call his 81 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: parents more often cause quote, they're now in their fifties. 82 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: In fact, this would be an even better segue right 83 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: now to get out of contacts based on week one. 84 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: Please tell me your clip in that you have to 85 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: clip that one? 86 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: Can we like an. 87 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 4: Out of contact, Superville or something. 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: All right, so we've got a rousing addition to Cardinals Underground. 89 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: Straight ahead here, Darren wipe the floor with Paul last year. 90 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: So you behavior we should be like, have our mean 91 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: mugs on, we should be mean mugging each other. 92 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 4: One of your better takes, Paul, It's no, I'm not. 93 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: I'm not. 94 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: I know you're not, but that's what makes it so hilarious. 95 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: Now the face I have is read Isaiah Adams? Is 96 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: I segue in round three? And then Tip Ryman, did 97 00:04:59,320 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: you mean. 98 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 3: To say Riseiah Adams? Like rising? 99 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: No? Dang, Darren leads one nothing no, sound like people 100 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: on Twitter. 101 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: There is no conspiracy theory. 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: Okay, that didn't go well for me. 103 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: Where were we? 104 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: Hashtag free sweat the sauce the sauce? Oh yeah, so 105 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: can I say the Cardinals rivalry uniforms they slap? Can 106 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: I say that? Danny? 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: Sure? 108 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to reach out to you, Darren, because you 109 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: have omnipresent. 110 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 4: Candor no Hurricanes in one hand, Vignet's in the other. 111 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, put me down for that. 112 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 4: I stay regular season? Ready? 113 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: Okay, do you want to name all those seven captains? Paul? 114 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: Danny already did earlier. Danny already did paying attention. Yeah, 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: Danny mentioned Darren wiping the floor with me? Was that 116 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: the one quote in there? It's funny, Well, Danny, I 117 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: hate to say it, but if you want to look 118 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: at the floor, just look at the weekly picks through 119 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: week one. Just thought I throw that out there. 120 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: We weren'tupposed together until way later you are anxiously wanting 121 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: to talk about our records. I just thought of the 122 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: picks around the league week one. 123 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: At I'm Gonna save you. I do have a bigger problem. 124 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: I thought we were including chat GPT as one of 125 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: the combatants, one of the contestants here. I thought it 126 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: was going to be three oh ten and five. So 127 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: I tied with Ai, So you'res truly in chat GPT. 128 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: Both went ten and five. Darren out of the gates. Wow, okay, 129 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: And after you sandbag bag and getting on the team 130 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: plane that you supposedly struggled with your Week one forecast. 131 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: I struggled with the picks I lost. I apparently missed 132 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: the Ravens bills, which I don't feel all that bad 133 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: about the way that game turned out, which was pretty awesome. 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: And then and then I missed the Chiefs Chargers, which 135 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: was still a good game. 136 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: So so Darren went thirteen and two, Paul ten and five, 137 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 4: and I am continuing where I left off last year 138 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 4: at six and nine. But just remember I had a 139 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: slow start last year and then I went fifteen and uh, 140 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: and then I really picked up steam. So I thought, 141 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: I've got a slow burn with these Is it me? 142 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: Or is Danny got the I was the starting quarterback 143 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: in high school? Vibe with that one week? 144 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: Well, nex week four, you never swept, but but you've 145 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: never accounted for the remarkable turnaround. That's that's what we. 146 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: Can tell. 147 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: Any ground for having any sort of witch hunt against 148 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: me because I started six and nine and I really tried. 149 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: Week one. 150 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: Well, there's a there's a couple of NFC West teams 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: that are already gonna need a turn around. We'll get 152 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: into the NFC West in a moment, but right now, 153 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: guess what the Cardinals did in Week one? They finished 154 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: And I shared this on Red Sea Report, and I'll 155 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: just throw this out real quick. I went around the 156 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: locker room with a question last week and it went 157 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: something like this, what do you know about this team 158 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: right here, right now? Going into the season that the 159 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: rest of us outsiders will find out once the season begins. 160 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: And I got a couple of different answers. Probably the 161 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: most popular one though, was we're equipped to win, We're 162 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: equipped to finish, no joke. And then all of a 163 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: sudden it came to be materialized right in front of 164 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: our eyes in the final moments in New Orleans. But 165 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: a bunch of guys said, you know what, the first 166 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 2: couple of years, teams knew they were in a game 167 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: because we're physical. But now we know we can win 168 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: the game because we have proven dudes in the locker room. 169 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: We have younger guys who have made the leap. And 170 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: look how many games came down to the final seconds, 171 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: to the final few plays. And the teams that end 172 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: up in the postseason are those teams that make those 173 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: plays and win the one score games. And that's exactly 174 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: what the Cardinals did find a way. 175 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: You know, everybody always talks to everybody. The coaches like 176 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: to talk about it, and players, it's never quite as 177 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: good as you think it is. It's never quite as 178 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: bad as you think it is. And that's what really 179 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: resonated with me when I went back and looked at 180 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: a lot of the stats and looked at some of 181 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: the plays. Definitely not as bad as it thought. I 182 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: mean one of the things that really and I pointed 183 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: this out in the mail bag this week because there 184 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 3: was a lot of negative questions, and I understand, I 185 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: get it. There was a lot of people that were, 186 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, expecting the Cardinals to win thirty to three, 187 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: I guess, But defensively, you know, did they did they 188 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: get twelve sacks? 189 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: No? 190 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: Did they get three interceptions? They did not. But they 191 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: only give up thirteen points. That's the most obvious thirteen points. 192 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: Just like JG said after the game, that's gonna win 193 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 3: you a lot of games. They only gave up three 194 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen yards. We're sitting here going all the 195 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: Saints were able to move the ball. If you averaged 196 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: giving up three hundred and fifteen yards a game last year, 197 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 3: that would have made you the sixth best defense in 198 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: the league. So that's not a lot of yards. And 199 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: you know, I saw a stat that we talked about 200 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: the tempo. All the Cardinals are making excuses why they 201 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: didn't get sacks is because of this temple thing. Spencer Ratler, 202 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: I think had the time to throw the least amount 203 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: of time from the time when he would backtrack either 204 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: pressure to throw the ball. It was like the shortest 205 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: amount of time of anybody in the league this weekend. 206 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: Something like that, meaning the time it took him to 207 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: get rid of the ball, or the time he had 208 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: to throw the ball meaning the pass rush, or his 209 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 2: decision to get rid of the ball quickly. Stead I 210 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 2: saw his top five fewest and the least amount of 211 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: time getting rid of the ball, meaning it was. 212 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: Up temple what it is again and that's fine, but 213 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 3: like again, and you still had a handful of pressures. 214 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: I saw Jordan Birch had three pressures. I pretty sure 215 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: Sweat had three or four. 216 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Like again, see to me, Sweat got that pressure and 217 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: got that quarterback hit on the first third down, and 218 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: at that point Kellamore goes, oh boy, yeah, we got 219 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: to go up tempo, and they did almost immediately and 220 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: almost the entirety of the rest of the game they 221 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 2: went up tempo. You heard Kalais Campbell in the press 222 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: conference earlier this week say, oh man, that was a 223 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: lot of tempo from a guy who's played eighteen years, 224 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: probably the most he's dealt with and in a lot 225 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 2: of ways. It was a shrewd game plan for two reasons. One, 226 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: you have a young quarterback, get the ball out of 227 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: his hands quickly, make it simplify his reads. Number Two, 228 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: it's week one. How many of those defensive linemen are 229 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: in game shape, especially guys didn't play many snaps in 230 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: the preseason, So you know what, We're gonna keep them 231 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: on the field. We're not gonna let the Cardinals defense 232 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: sub And, believe me, down on the sideline, the Cardinals 233 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: were itching and ready in that last drive to get 234 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: a whole new set of defensive linemen and ends out there, 235 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: because the guys had out there at that point in 236 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter had been out there a long time. 237 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: There were a lot of new faces playing together in 238 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: a regular season game for the Cardinals for the first time, 239 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: and even some familiar faces having different roles. We've talked 240 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: about all the new faces on the defensive front, and 241 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: you can only get so many game like reps in 242 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: a practice against your own team, or the few looks 243 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: that the starters got in the one preseason game, the 244 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: first quarter, the first preseason game they played. This was 245 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: the first real opportunity for them to get some snaps together, 246 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: so that is going to take time. Even the familiar faces. 247 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: Linebacker Mac Wilson Senior had a new role, looked good 248 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: wearing the green dot as the middle linebacker. Rookie outside 249 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 4: cornerback Will Johnson had a fantastic debut. When you're looking 250 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: at the defense and where they really shined against the Saints, 251 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: it was outside. It was in the passing game. What 252 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 4: you saw from Johnson, from Max Melton and Garrett Williams, 253 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: who was playing outside much more than we have seen 254 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: from his time as a Cardinal. They looked good. They 255 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: were playing clean football. I know that Johnson had that 256 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: what would have been interception that was negated from a 257 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: mountain penalty, but all in all, it was clean play 258 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: by the defense and you did get to see some 259 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: different looks. We saw a lot of three safety looks 260 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 4: where you are incorporating rabbit Taylor Demerson going into your 261 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: two a lot more than we have seen in the past. 262 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 2: You know what, when I was watching it, I actually 263 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: saw four safeties when Will Johnson and Max Melton were 264 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 2: on the field and Garrett's inside because we know when 265 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: they have position groups, where does Garrett go he goes 266 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: with the safeties. So I'm looking at it and I'm like, wow, 267 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: you know, a year ag go, you had Buddha and 268 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: JT and you had Garrett Williams, and any one of 269 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: those three guys is interchangeable. Now you throw Rabbit out 270 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 2: there and you know which guy is shooting his gun, 271 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: which guy is covering deep, which guy is going to 272 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: be in run support in the box. They're all so 273 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: interchangeable and capable of covering, tackling, blitzing. I think the 274 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: longer this season goes on, that is going to be 275 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: the signature element of this Cardinals defense. 276 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: That's truly getting your best eleven out there. As Rabbit 277 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: was adjusting as a rookie, we were talking about, Okay, 278 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: he's looked good in some of the reps he's had. 279 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: Doesn't have a lot of opportunities when he's in a 280 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 4: position room playing behind three very strong players in Buddha Baker, 281 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: Jalen Thompson and Garrett Williams. So the fact that we 282 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: were seeing essentially a for safety look is really telling 283 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: of the growth we have seen from Rabbit going into 284 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 4: your two. 285 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 2: It's just really interesting and I thought it was a 286 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: great It was a great plan by Kellen Moore to 287 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: try and mitigate some of that. Now, the Cardinals defense, 288 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: I thought, also adapted and adjusted a little bit on 289 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: the fly, fitting the run better. After the eighteen yard 290 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: touchdown run by Alvin Kamara. I'm not so sure that 291 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: there weren't a couple instances where because of the noise level, 292 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: and I get it the Saints were on offense, but 293 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: it was still loud and you know, getting some of 294 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: the calls out and relaying the calls, that's something that 295 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: definitely gets better week one to week two, especially when 296 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: you have a new Green Dot and a new Mike linebacker. 297 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: It seemed to get better as the game went on, 298 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: and instead of chasing the play, I thought the Cardinals 299 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: a little more equipped. What seven rushing yards on six 300 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: carries in the second half by Alvin Kamara. In fact, 301 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: Rob Fredericks on the Red Sea reports like, I was 302 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: shocked they didn't try and run it more. But I 303 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: thought the Cardinals did a good job of taking that away. 304 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: And look, there's a stat on the Cardinals defense, and 305 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: the Cardinals media relations team put this out and it 306 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: goes something like this. Since Week seven of last year, 307 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: the Cardinals defense has allowed an average of nineteen point 308 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: one points per game. Only Philly and Denver have allowed 309 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: fewer points in that span. 310 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it goes to what we all 311 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: think of Nick Rolis as a defensive coordinator. One. I mean, 312 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: before this first game, they were still rebuilding this roster 313 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: for the longest time, so he didn't necessarily have the 314 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: talent he was looking for. And even with this game, 315 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: you know, again we talk about the numbers looking pretty better, 316 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: a lot better than maybe people would have thought by 317 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: the eye test, and it's going to improve. I agree 318 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: with all of that, Paul. I mean again, the complexion 319 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: of the game also changes that the offense converts a 320 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: couple more times. I mean, if the Saints are sitting 321 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: there now, they're probably going to even go faster tempo 322 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: if you're falling behind even more. But like this game 323 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: totally looks different if the Cardinals go and get that 324 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: touchdown before the block field goal, which it looked like 325 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: they were headed towards doing. Even if they get that 326 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: field goal and make it a ten a thirteen point 327 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: game at the time. 328 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: Similar to the defense, the offense needed time to settle in. 329 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: It was a very slow start and almost a bit 330 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: confusing when you're talking about an offense that had such 331 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: consistency from last year. Although look it's week one for 332 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 4: the defense, same way it is Week one for the offense. 333 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: So this was still the first opportunity for them to 334 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: really get some live reps outside of a quarter of 335 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: the first preseason game. That's something that you're going to 336 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: need to improve. The next opportunity is your home opener 337 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: Sunday against the Panthers. You need a much faster start, 338 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: and you need to be more efficient and as we 339 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: start to get more into the details of the run 340 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: or the pass. I just think overall, if you're looking 341 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: for a big improvement from the offense, that's where it's 342 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: got to start. Is how you start the game right? 343 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: Needs and wants? Do you need to get Will Johnson 344 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: on the field for more snaps? What do you play? 345 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: Like two thirds of the game you. 346 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: Have forty five out of seventy five? 347 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: Okay, little less and less. 348 00:16:53,280 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm again, he played well, But here's the 349 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: question I would have for you, which is is he 350 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: playing did you maximize the things he does well and 351 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: when he was playing, and if you put him out 352 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: there for a lot more. Is there going to be 353 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: more of a learning curve with some of that other stuff. 354 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: I mean again, if you're if you're saying this team 355 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 3: is going to give up three hundred and fifteen yards 356 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: and thirteen points a game. And I know Saints offense 357 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: is what it is, but if you're telling me that 358 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: that's the ballpark how they play defenses is no, then 359 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: keep just doing what you're doing. Now. If Will Johnson 360 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: earns more time, sure, I'm not sure who you're taking out. 361 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: They clearly love Garrett Williams. 362 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: Yep. 363 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: Max Melton is an outside You got to have the 364 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: outside guys. 365 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: It would have to be Max, It just would. You 366 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: would have to swap them in the depth chart at 367 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: some point. And I honestly, and this has no reflection 368 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: on Max Melton. At some point and maybe some point soon, 369 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 2: I expect Will Johnson to be CB one and Max 370 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: Melton CB two. I mean, he just make those plays 371 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: against anybody. Rashid Shihed is a four to three guy 372 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: like he's a legit burner. 373 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 4: Johnson had a fantastic rookie debut. He had he got targeted, 374 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 4: which makes sense. By Spencer Utley, you're gonna target their 375 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 4: rookie cornerback, and Johnson delivered. He had multiple PBUs early 376 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: on in the game. He had what would have been 377 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: a fantastic interception where he is running the route better 378 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: than the receiver he's covering that was just negated by 379 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: a penalty and that big time hit on Chris Olave 380 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: at the end of the game, where what's really impressive 381 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 4: after talking with the coaching staff is that that was 382 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 4: on Johnson picking that up. That was something they worked 383 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 4: on in practice that Johnson learned from the film and 384 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 4: from rewatching some of those reps, saw it in the 385 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: game and made the decision to not run the white 386 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 4: not black pedal right with his receiver, and he went 387 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: and he knocked the lights out of a Lave. So 388 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 4: a really strong outing physically and mentally by the rookie cornerback. 389 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 4: I would think it's too soon, though, if you're saying, hey, 390 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 4: we're gonna pull Max Melton and put Will Johnson in. 391 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: I'm more on the camp with Darren of okay, like 392 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: this is still one game, right and it's possible that happens. 393 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 4: I also wonder if if you not I mean, if 394 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: you're saying cornerback one and cornerback two. Maybe they just 395 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: move Garrett Williams inside to the sophomore. But you're saying 396 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: in your instance, it would be Garrett Williams and Will 397 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 4: Johnson out wide. 398 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: I mean it's that dime package is fierce. When when 399 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 2: you have basically the four safeties and then Max Melt 400 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: and Will Johnson, that that is that is you need 401 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 2: to get those guys on the field. That's why talk 402 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: about more takeaways. That's where it's coming. 403 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 3: That's why it was so important to get a front 404 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: seven that are front five I guess we're talking about 405 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 3: now to be able to be stout against the run. 406 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean, again, you can bring in these packages and 407 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: pass mostly situations, but to get these guys on the field, 408 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 3: you got to have guys up front that can handle it, 409 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: because you don't want to be so small that teams 410 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 3: are going to run O. But I think you know 411 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: it's it's it's interesting when you look at the snap 412 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: counts and there were five guys that played one hundred 413 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 3: percent of the snaps. It was Melton, it was Garrett Williams, 414 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 3: it was Buddha Baker, it was Jalen Thompson. It was 415 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: Mac Wilson. That means for all the rest of the players, 416 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: you've got six spots left of game snaps. 417 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: Well, look, if you're gonna rotate your four guys up 418 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: front mac Wilson's senior at inside backer and then run 419 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: that dime package, I just wonder how much a long 420 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: until maybe that's the base defense I guess, is what 421 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 422 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you could make the argument priority is there and. 423 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: Maybe the first snap, for example, you get You know, 424 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: it's a game of matchups, right, as they like to say, Well, 425 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: Ted McMillan is a six to four receiver, so Will 426 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: Johnson stands every bit of six to two. Who's the 427 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: better matchup this week? Just saying and Ted McMillan was 428 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: by far the most productive receiver for Carolina. But really 429 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: the biggest difference on if you want to talk defense, 430 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: because you know what Carolina did last year. You're in 431 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: the run game against the Cardinals over six yards of carry, 432 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: nearly two hundred and fifty yards rushing in Week sixteen 433 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 2: at Carolina, they ran behind the right side of that 434 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: offensive line. Big Rob Hunt, the twenty million dollars a 435 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: year right guard. He is a dude. And now the question, 436 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 2: to me, this is the this is the best gauge 437 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: what Carolina did against your defensive front a year ago. 438 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: Now guess what in week two you get to show 439 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: up and you get to say, all right, look at us. Now, 440 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: now you got Dalvin Thomas and a Kalais Campbell and 441 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: here's Darius Robinson. He's good to go, and you have 442 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: a revamped, refreshed, reset front four Mac Wilson Senior, different, 443 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 2: Mike Backer, seek and destroy. To me, this is a 444 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: really good gauge and litmus test out of the gate 445 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: as to what you revamped defensive front looks like and 446 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: how they're going to perform because we know what Carolina 447 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: did a year ago. 448 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: We do, although I think there were some and you 449 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: guys know, like I think there were some other things 450 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: that we're going into that at the time, it was 451 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 3: a you know, Jonathan Ganz already talked about tweaking the 452 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: two day trips, and I wouldn't be surprised if the 453 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: Carolina two day trip is at the forefront of why 454 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: they might want to go away from the two day trips. 455 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: That's a good theory that lights the Lampia. 456 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: Because that was not a great defensive performance, and I 457 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 3: don't know how much of that was you know, the 458 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: Panthers run game, and how much of that was the Cardinals. 459 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: In fact, green Bay was a two day trip as well, 460 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: and did the Cardinals have a lot of energy to 461 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: start the green Bay game. 462 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: Miami was a slow start. That was a two day trip. 463 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 3: And the reality too is to me, for all the 464 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 3: issues that they had in Carolina last year, if James 465 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: Connor doesn't get hurt, I think the Cardinals win going away. 466 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: Because we talk about what the Panthers did against the 467 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: Cardinals against the run. James Connor might have had three 468 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 3: hundred yards rushing that day if he didn't get hurt. True, 469 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: the Panthers were not stopping. Now they got Derek Brown back, 470 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: who's one of the best in the league. 471 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: It's still somewhat of two different teams. But the thing 472 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: is is they played the Panthers near the end of 473 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: last Now they're playing the Panthers near the beginning of 474 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: this season. So what can you look at scheme wise 475 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 4: that maybe hasn't changed a lot for the Panthers and 476 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: vice versa. There the interesting thing about this Panthers offense 477 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: is quarterback Bryce Young, who is inconsistent is a fair 478 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: word to say, although he is still a threat, especially 479 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 4: as a mobile quarterback. And when he played the Cardinals 480 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: last year, he had five carries for sixty eight yards 481 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 4: and a touchdown. And you pair that with Chewba Hubbard 482 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 4: out of the backfield, who had twenty five carries for 483 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty two yards and two touchdowns. That 484 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: at has to be what you are circling first, if 485 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: you're looking of where this defense needs to shine, you 486 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 4: have to win in the trenches and you have to 487 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: stop the run. You cannot let a mobile quarterback escape 488 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 4: and extend the plays with his legs. 489 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and guess what Bryce Young did to the Cardinals 490 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: last year on the road. Remember that that was not good. 491 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: I mean, again, we're talking about Rattler, And it's funny 492 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: we talk about that because, I mean, Kyler Murray in 493 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: a lot of ways helped the I mean, the passing 494 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 3: game wasn't quite they wanted, the regular running game wasn't 495 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: quite where they wanted to, but Kyler made some key 496 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: scrambles and that's just that's part of this league now, 497 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: both defensively and offensively. 498 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: Maybe the best one was fourteen personnel boom near the 499 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: goal line, he picks up the first down. 500 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 4: Here. 501 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: You know what, I'm glad you brought that up because 502 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 3: one of my favorite parts of that whole thing was 503 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 3: Kyler wanted the edge and he saw he wasn't gonna 504 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 3: get it, and he said, fet I'm gonna duck in 505 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 3: and make sure I get the first down, which I'm 506 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 3: not sure he always would have done in the past. 507 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: So props to him for that. 508 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: Okay, I hear that term you just used. You know 509 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: what I think of I think of a wise Guy 510 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: trivia in three two one. 511 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy, the world's bestest Growing 512 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets 513 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess. Daddy's right. 514 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: Welcome back, Gamesman. They're exciting week of wise Guy everybody. 515 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: What was that was the phrase you're talking about? Props 516 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: to you, Paul, Is that what. 517 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: You're you know? I did the disdain I have for 518 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: the wave to the wave there by Dan both. 519 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, I like that. That seems very nineteen seven. 520 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: Jealousy doesn't have an intro song with his name in it. 521 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: Look, there's no winning behavior this week. In more ways 522 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 2: than one, there's no winning behavior of the segment, and 523 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: usually there's no winning behavior by yours truly the same. 524 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 4: Way that I am continuing how I left off last 525 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: year with the picks, the two of you are continuing 526 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 4: where you left off with wise Guy. Because Darren one 527 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 4: handedly last week, and regular season rules my rules, because 528 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: it's my game show. Darren won last week, So Darren 529 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 4: gets first pick of the number of his questions. 530 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: I will say, in Paul's defense, it's you know, we 531 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: can't just judge this on one week. I mean, he 532 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: needs to get into he's been watching tape. So I'm 533 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: gonna go with question three. 534 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 4: Danny Bank of America Stadium, where the Panthers play, hosts 535 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 4: an annual college bowl game named after a famously divisive condiment. Traditionally, 536 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 4: the winning coach gets showered with this condiment in celebration. 537 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 4: Which condiment am I talking about? 538 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: Would that be the Duke's Male Bowl? 539 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: Would be the most gross bowl game there is, and 540 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 4: you would not be in favor of having mayonnaise dumped 541 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 4: on you. 542 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: I actually enjoy the condiment mayonnaise, but not dumped on me. 543 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 4: You don't know that you've never had it done. 544 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: You're right, I've never had it done. 545 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: Well, no Nickelodeon for you. I guess you're not gonna 546 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: get slimed. 547 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: Then slimed. That's a whole different deal. And that's for 548 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: the kids. Poll. 549 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: Is this the Will Levis endorsement? Like Will Levis? Mister Mayo? Right, 550 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: Isn't that? Is it? Yeah? 551 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: He still? 552 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: I mean is that how he got all jacked like that? 553 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: You know? 554 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I gotta I gotta ask this question 555 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: before we move on. 556 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: A great idea. By the way, protein fortified Mayo got 557 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: that down. 558 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 3: Are you a male guy? 559 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely not? 560 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't think so for some reason, not. 561 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: Since age eleven. Go ahead, I mean, come on, here 562 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: we go. Take a question, all right, Mac Wilson Senior, 563 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm going Mac Wilson Senior. 564 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 4: Number two than you I was getting there. Drafted in 565 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 4: the first round in nineteen ninety one by the Cardinals 566 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 4: despite never playing college football, this player ended his NFL 567 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 4: career with the Panthers in two thousand. Who is he? 568 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: Okay? This one? This one I have do you speaking 569 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: to the weight room? Last time I ever saw this guy, 570 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: we did an interview. He was on the incline bench. 571 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: Eric swan lad, how about that. It's amazing. I got 572 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm on the scoreboard to start two thousand for yourself. Exactly. 573 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 4: You deserve it, Paul Darntune. 574 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: The only missing is the fog horn like the hockey foghorn. 575 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 4: Question one or four? 576 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: I'll take one and I'm waiting for the fog horn. 577 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 3: That'll be Paul's next. 578 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: Oh, that'll be at San Francisco week three. 579 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: Although he grew up only three miles from the iconic 580 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: Charlotte Motor Speedway, this Charlotte Bourne Cardinals defensive starter has 581 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: never step foot at the track. Who is he. 582 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: A defensive starter this year? 583 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: Yes, defensive starter was born in Charlotte. Goodness, gracious. 584 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: Mac Wilson and correct and Paul Steele. 585 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, Here we go, Garret Williams. Correct 586 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: about that. 587 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 4: Wow, I'll take the lead. 588 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: I think there was a big red rage we were 589 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: talking about Charlotte. We were talking NASCAR. That's right, Okay, 590 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: here we go. 591 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 4: Okay, question number. 592 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 3: If Paul gets it, he seals it. 593 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: Correct. 594 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: Also, I'm not the Baltimore Ravens. Here the lake going. 595 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: Based on what we saw Sunday night. 596 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: This former quarterback who suited up for an incredible nine 597 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: different NFL teams over a sixteen year career, joined Steve Berline, 598 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: Brian Saint Pierre, and Derek Anderson as one of only 599 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 4: four qbs to have played for both the Panthers and Cardinals. 600 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: Who is he? 601 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: Wow, there's a lot in there. One of four, One. 602 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: Of four quarterbacks to have played for both the Panthers 603 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 4: and the Cardinals. He played on nine different teams over 604 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: a sixteen year career. 605 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: Okay, sixteen year career. 606 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 4: M Jeff Blake, sorry, Paulitzan correct home on? 607 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: Would that be the great Josh mccownt. 608 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 4: Sure, ladies and gentlemen, we have a time. 609 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: By the way, did you see his square jaw last night? 610 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 3: On multiple times? As the Vikings QB coach, Mister Josh McCown. 611 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 4: Dang, time to go to a tie breaker. So I'll 612 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: read the question. It's going to be a number that 613 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: both of you write down. Your answer closest to it 614 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 4: will win. 615 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: Well, I'll write it down and show you in the Yeah, you. 616 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 4: Can go over to Okay, Okay, here we go. How 617 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: many total yards the Cardinals have and their two thousand 618 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 4: and eight divisional playoff win over the Panthers. 619 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: With total yards eight Panthers scored in five plays and 620 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: then the Cardinals jack stomp Carolina with like a half 621 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: dozen takeaways. But we want total yards. Okay. 622 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: Both of them are writing down their answers. 623 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: Okay, showing me if my answer has a comma. Is 624 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: that bad? No, that's how bad it was, That's how 625 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: lopsided it was. Okay, I'll go. 626 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: I bet you I get this wrong. 627 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 4: When you're ready, Paul, you can say your answer. Okay, Okay, 628 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: like when you guys, maybe do mathem. 629 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: All right, here we go five thirty four. 630 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: Well, that's easy math for me. The answer is three 631 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: sixty and Darren went with three ninety one. 632 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: Because of all the turnovers they were on short short fields. 633 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: Oh my god, gets the week, yes for you? Wow. 634 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: Okay, all right. See if I would have been watching 635 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: Monday night football a little closer than the name Josh 636 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: McCown might. 637 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: Have when she first started asking the question, Steve Berlin 638 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 3: came into my head when she said his name. I'm like, 639 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm gonna have no idea. 640 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: Sixteen years for Josh McCown. 641 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: Well, yes, but there was I think there was at 642 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: least one year where he didn't play and then came 643 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: back in the league and right, oh. 644 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: My god, I mean, wow, okay, all right, Josh McCown, 645 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: let's uh, let's get to and my likes here right 646 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: the finish Will Johnson dime package. Literally, this is what 647 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: I wrote down after the game number four, the Kyler 648 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: to Marvin Rison Junior connection. Give me a few thoughts. 649 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: What looked different? What gives you confidence? Is there staying power? 650 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: There was production, There was you know, I mean, there 651 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: was actual consistency five out of six Paul yep compared 652 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: to last year's completion percentage everybody now fifty three point 653 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: four percent. So there was improvement. 654 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 4: The communication was what we were told from both Marvin 655 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 4: Harrison Junior and Kyler Murray felt most improved going into 656 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 4: the season. You could see that. We also talked about 657 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: not just the communitation, but needing to be more efficient 658 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: with the deep ball. That's where this offense needed to 659 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: take the next step, and we saw that Week one 660 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 4: with a forty five yarder from Murray to Harrison did 661 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: a really nice job tracking the ball over his shoulder 662 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 4: on the sideline with the defender closely on him five 663 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 4: perceptions on six targets for seventy one yards and a 664 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 4: touchdown for the receiver, who looked more comfortable, more confident, 665 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: all the things he was telling us throughout the offseason. 666 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 4: You could see there were also a few players where 667 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 4: Harrison took some hits. Not something we normally see when 668 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 4: he's out wide and it's one defender, maybe he's going 669 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: out of bounds. He was in the middle of the 670 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 4: field in the slot and he was taking some hits. 671 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: What I liked about it is everything that Marvin said 672 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 3: over the summer about feeling more confident, and Kyler said 673 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: you could tell after the game, but I felt like 674 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: just watching the game, you could tell. You could tell 675 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: he was more confident in his route running. You could 676 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: tell he was confident when the ball was coming to him. 677 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: That the bomb was a thing of beauty. It was 678 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: an excellent pass. I don't want to take anything away 679 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 3: from Kyler. That throw is unbelievable. The catch was great, 680 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: the coverage was not bad, nop, and they made it happen, 681 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: and I think that's super important. Now. There was a 682 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: couple of plays and then the other one that the 683 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: coaches talk about was the one that Danny was referring 684 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: to where he got hit where he got the first 685 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: down catch and took a shot to the ribs or 686 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: the shoulder or whatever he took and you could tell 687 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: right after the play he was feeling it and came 688 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: off the field. But I will say that there was 689 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 3: a couple of plays that I'm like, if they just 690 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: would have made it. Obviously, there was the obvious one, 691 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 3: which was the one where they were back on their 692 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: three yard line. The throw came, it was a little high, 693 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: and it was a little behind, and they didn't connect, 694 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: and if it had connected in stride, you're thinking maybe 695 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 3: Marvin as a ninety seven yard touchdown. Now I've gone 696 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 3: back and watched that, and in real time, I'm like, Kyler, 697 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: how do you miss that? I watched it a bunch 698 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: of times. Kurt Warner talked about it on Twitter with 699 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: the play and basically said, the way the safety is, 700 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: Kyler threw the ball where it should have been thrown, 701 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 3: but Marvin kind of had to be where he ended 702 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: up being. Drew Petsing said, asked and credit to Drew. 703 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: He wasn't gonna throw anybody under the bus, but he 704 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 3: talked about it pretty good, which was basically like Marvin 705 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 3: couldn't have just gone straight up the field. He would 706 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: have run into the safety, so we had to break 707 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 3: it a little bit. But where the defense was, Kyler 708 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: didn't make a bad throw. So it's one of those 709 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: ones where it would have been nice to hook up. 710 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 3: But because the way the defense was, maybe the Saints 711 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: just played a little better. I just I see that 712 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: I saw a play earlier. 713 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: Can I see real quick on that? Just one foll 714 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: up question. I wasn't there for Drew Petson. I haven't 715 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: listened to that yet. I haven't even rewatched the play, 716 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: But just standing there on the sideline, I thought that 717 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 2: maybe Kyler could have waited another moment before releasing the ball, 718 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: that maybe he felt the urge to get rid of 719 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 2: it a little prematurely, because the way Marvin Errison Junior 720 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: was going, he was just going to open green and 721 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: if you tap it, had it one more time and 722 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: hitch it one more time and then let it go 723 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: and put some more air under it. Was how much 724 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: pressure was coming off his backside. 725 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 3: I would have to look at the pressure. That was 726 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: one thing I did. But I will say this, and 727 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: Danny pointed this out when we were talking off the air, 728 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 3: they were too high safety the safety off the ball 729 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: on the other side, that could be that issue. He 730 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 3: had looked like he was sitting on trainming bride a 731 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 3: little bit. But if Kyler waits another second, that safety 732 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 3: is backing out of it, and then all of a 733 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 3: sudden you're dealing with bracketed on Marvin. So I don't 734 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 3: see it that way. And just real quick, there was 735 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 3: another play and I don't remember how the drive ended. 736 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: It might have been the first field goal, or or 737 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 3: maybe it was the James conn I forget what it was, 738 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: but there was a play where near the red zone 739 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: or in the red zone, and Marvin did went in 740 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: and then broke it back out to the outside and 741 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 3: he lost his his guy hard. Unfortunately, right when he 742 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 3: made his break, Kyler got a little bit of pressure 743 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 3: and was forced from the pocket. And I don't know 744 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 3: if Kyler ever got his eyes back up to that spot, 745 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 3: and by the time he was able to do that, 746 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: they had recovered on it. But I thought Marvin ran 747 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 3: a great route and it would have been a touchdown 748 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: there too. So I saw signs that as we go 749 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 3: this could really really look good. 750 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 4: You can really see the comfort, the level of comfort 751 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 4: between the two of them, and Harrison individually going into 752 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 4: his second year and the confidence he has and what 753 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 4: he can do, and how that creates confidence as a 754 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 4: duo and having better chemistry there tighten. Trey McBride continues 755 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 4: to be Trey McBride. There's no question, no doubt there. 756 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 4: The offense, in addition to having a slow start, protection 757 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 4: is something that needs to be improved. But it's not 758 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 4: really just on the offensive line. There were five sacks, 759 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 4: although most of those weren't even offensive lineman that was 760 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: blocking down by running back or tight end. So that 761 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 4: is absolutely something that needs to improve, even if that's 762 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 4: just a better understanding of what the defense is showing 763 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 4: you and making sure you are prepared. But that's a 764 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 4: stat where you look at and you say, okay, he 765 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 4: was sacked five times. Man, that offensive linements must have 766 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 4: really struggled. Not the case if you're watching the game. 767 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 2: That final sack where he lost fifteen yards. Jonathan Gann, 768 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: it's interesting to hear him talk about it. How Brandon 769 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: Staley quote ripped zero on that went cover zero when 770 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: he hadn't gone cover zero on the first down to 771 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: the second down, and he had no pattern in the 772 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 2: game of going cover zero on third down, and that 773 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: really isn't his mo. But he defied all his tendencies 774 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: and for the first time in the game in that situation. 775 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: To hear Jonathan Gannon tell it, they went cover zero. 776 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: It's funny you bring that up because this is something 777 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 3: that has not been discussed much in all the conversations 778 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 3: about what the Cardinals did in the first game, and hey, 779 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: maybe it would have been nice for their offense to 780 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 3: score more. Brandon Staley did not work very well as 781 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 3: a head coach, but he is a hell of a 782 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. 783 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: The last time he's a DC, they had the number 784 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: one defense in the league with the Rams. 785 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 3: And one of the reasons the Saints are seen as 786 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 3: not a good team is their quarterback situation. Their defense 787 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 3: isn't that bad. And so all of a sudden, when 788 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 3: we start figuring in a pretty decent defense and a 789 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 3: really good defensive coordinator I mean, and a. 790 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 2: Really good play caller, I don't want to be that. 791 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 3: Guys are like, yeah, why why are all the coaches 792 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 3: and managers in this town. All they're doing is giving 793 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 3: credit to the other team. But in this case, I 794 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: do think some credit. 795 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 4: You also had a quarterback who woke up at four 796 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 4: point thirty in the morning with some pretty bad stomach 797 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 4: issues in Murray and pushed through and was resilient to 798 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 4: get through the game. 799 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: I mean, put it this way, based on what we 800 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: saw out of the Saints, They're not going to be 801 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: the worst team in the league. They're not going to 802 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: have the first pick in the draft. Yes, that is 803 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 2: absolutely accurate on that front. By the way, speaking to 804 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 2: the Saints defense ninety six. 805 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: Ruh, my god, Trey Benson. 806 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 2: I mean I brought this up with Craig Grielho. Remember 807 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: the JJ Nelson play Cincinnati Thursday night or maybe it 808 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 2: was a Sunday night. JJ Nelson sort of a deep 809 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: out in the flat catches, it goes north up the 810 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: far sideline and then got run down by like a 811 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 2: defensive end and he never heard the end of it 812 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: for like two months. From Larry Fitzgerald. You run a 813 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: four to two eight in the defensive but if that 814 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: guy like that gets an angle on you, and NFL 815 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: lineman can run guys six sixty five, and he got 816 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 2: the angle on Trey Benson. 817 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 3: If we're going back to the way back machine, the 818 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 3: original Hail Larry against the forty nine Ers in the 819 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 3: regular season seven. Yeah, that game went to overtime, and 820 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 3: it probably shouldn't have, but Sean Moury got caught from 821 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 3: behind by Patrick Willis on what should have been a 822 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 3: long touchdown. 823 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: Right. 824 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 3: But more importantly, do you know what the other thing 825 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 3: I thought of when we're talking about defensive lineman, because 826 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 3: I just had this conversation with Klayis Campbell and and 827 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 3: actually Bertram Barry was the one who reminded me of it. 828 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 3: In his rookie season, Campbell was on kickoff return. Oh yeah, 829 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 3: And JJ Arrington opened a game against the Cowboys at 830 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 3: home with a touchdown and Bertrand's like Kalaeis was down 831 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 3: there blocking for him. And I went back and looked 832 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 3: at the tape. JJ Arrington had like a ninety eight 833 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 3: yard kickoff return and Kalais Campbell defensive lineman, Yeah two 834 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 3: seventy two at the time, not to seventy two anymore. Uh, 835 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 3: was literally right in front of JJ Arrington as he 836 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 3: crossed the goal line, clearing the way for him. He 837 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 3: ran down the whole way with him. So I'm thinking 838 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 3: Kalais Campbell what might have caught Trey Benson in his prime. 839 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 2: So at six', eight you're, saying once you're you're a long. 840 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: Strider but once you get into, rhythm once you get 841 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 2: go on those long, strides start to eat up the, 842 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: yard start to eat up yardage. 843 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 3: Quickly that being, said it would have been nice If 844 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 3: Trey benson would have just finished. 845 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 4: That off an impressive fifty two yard or not to 846 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 4: be A debbie. Downer at fifty two yards of the 847 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 4: total one for six of the run game and you 848 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 4: have thirty eight of those coming from your. Quarterback, look 849 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 4: we were just finished talking about how good the sage defense, 850 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 4: is but you need more from your run. Game that 851 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 4: is where the offense stems. From that is what opens 852 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 4: up the rest of the. Playbook James, connor as good 853 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 4: as he is as a downhill, runner was struggling going 854 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 4: east to, WEST i mean laterally wasn't getting a. Lot, 855 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 4: thankfully when they put In, benson he was able to 856 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 4: do that a little bit more and juke his way 857 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 4: around some. Players you need to be able to be 858 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 4: more consistent and get more out of a run game 859 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 4: to open up the rest of the. Playbook all, Right. 860 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 2: So here's the. Prescription take four quarters against The carolina, 861 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 2: defense and then call the football doctor in the. Morning 862 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: they finished last year dead last in total, defense scoring, 863 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: defense rushing. Defense they aillowed a team record AN nfl 864 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 2: high five hundred and thirty four. Points you know, what 865 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 2: that's WHERE i got my five to thirty four for 866 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: total yards BECAUSE i had seen that stat earlier in the. 867 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: Day what a SIMPLETON i. Am that's. UNBELIEVABLE i just 868 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 2: like to go down to the, Wire. 869 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 4: Paul i'm GLAD i didn't have to do hard. 870 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: Math the only thing worse than losing or the condescending comment. 871 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 2: Afterwards and and you went Against jacksonville In week, one 872 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 2: and guess What travis etn. Generated here's the. Stat all 873 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 2: of a, Sudden i'm violating no, math left and. Right 874 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 2: he generated one hundred nine yards rushing on nine carries 875 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 2: on inside rush. Attempts so To danny's, point get the 876 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 2: Inside kramitt vertical run game going Against. Carolina let's see 877 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: a return to. 878 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 4: That here's the other thing we have not really taken into, 879 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 4: consideration regardless of the team of the, year the coaching, 880 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 4: staff what is it About carolina that seems to Have arizona's. 881 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 3: Number Darren, Gant no, Not, darren no. 882 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 4: Not your guy has been a thorn in The cardinals 883 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 4: side for quite some. 884 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 3: Time, well and you know what makes it worse is 885 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 3: they're they're doing like a season long celebration of their 886 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. 887 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 2: Team oh, boy, well they haven't won a playoff game 888 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 2: since twenty. Fifteen and we all know what game that 889 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 2: was the last playoff. Game we're not saying that haven't 890 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 2: made the playoffs since two thousand. Seventeen by the, Way 891 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: Darren urban Versus Darren, gant who's more? Caustic who's more 892 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: snark per? Pound between the two of. 893 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 3: You darren is razor sharp in that. Regard if he 894 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 3: could just learn how to spell his, name we'd be 895 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 3: in good. 896 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: SHOT i, see are you guys Buying Bryce? Young BECAUSE 897 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: i wasn't going Into week sixteen last, year and then 898 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 2: coming out Of week, SIXTEEN i was Buying Bryce young. 899 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 3: Didn't play very good last, week. 900 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 2: And then in his last three starts the last year 901 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 2: he had ten touchdowns and zero, turnovers and every hey 902 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 2: thought he'd turned the. Corner and then he came out and, 903 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: yeah a return to The Bryce young who got benched 904 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: after two games a year ago and was running the 905 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 2: scout team and might not have started another game all 906 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: of last. Year But Andy, dalton, remember got in a 907 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: car crash and like broke his thumb or whatever it. Was, 908 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 2: Otherwise Bryce young doesn't even get back into the. Game 909 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: and you've got a guy who's six and twenty three 910 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 2: as AN nfl starting quarterback and he comes in And 911 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 2: i'm not sure what to make of. Him, Obviously chewbahub's a. 912 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 2: Dude Rob hunt right guard as a, dude they killed 913 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 2: you last. Year But Bryce young also ran a lot 914 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: against The cardinals last. Year SO i don't know if 915 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 2: they got designs on a spy On Bryce young in this, 916 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 2: GAME i wouldn't be shocked if they. Did BUT i, Mean. 917 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 3: I'm feeling good about the home. Opener let me just say, That. 918 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 2: Paul, yeah J. C, horn by the, way they're a 919 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: star cornerback at one hundred million dollar. Extension that'll be 920 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,479 Speaker 2: a matchup to watch J. C, horn who's a dude 921 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 2: in very physical Against Marvin Harrison. Junior just say. That 922 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: and they do Have Derek brown back right the top 923 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 2: ten pick. 924 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 3: For they did not have when they played them last, year. 925 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 2: So we'll see didn't help much last. Year but all, 926 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: right you guys want to go around the horn and 927 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 2: check out THE Nfc Western. 928 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 3: How about how about we culture. 929 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 2: Ourselves that's, good SO i can go and get. Right, 930 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 2: okay here we, go let's get. Culture danny will segue. 931 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 4: To here getting. Cultured With, danny it is not just 932 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 4: directed at. 933 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 2: Pulk AM i the uncultured philistine around. Here, yes you. 934 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 3: Got me very. 935 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 4: Excited NOW i am on social media and consume more 936 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 4: at pop culture than both of you. 937 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 2: COMBINED i Think i'm being unfairly. Profiled but go, ahead 938 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 2: let's Go. 939 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 4: Arizona. Tea and it's not for the REASON i brought 940 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 4: it up recently about possibly changing their price from ninety 941 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 4: nine since due to. Inflation arizona t has teamed up 942 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 4: with The. Rizzler but who? Else oh, no AND i 943 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 4: know you're. Confused don't, Worry, PAUL i will tell you 944 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 4: exactly who The rizzler. Is he is a nine year 945 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 4: old internet. Personality he's still, NINE i, think so he's 946 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 4: just a big nine year old. 947 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 2: Boy this better be good if we're talking about a 948 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 2: nine year. Old he is. 949 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 4: Known for his quote Riz, face where he squints his 950 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 4: eyes while stroking his chin and pursing his. Lips that 951 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 4: two are teaming up for A risberry Flavor arizona. 952 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 3: TEA i can't. Believe have you not seen the NEW nfl. 953 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 3: Commercial he's in the NEW nfl commercial? Tea did you? 954 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 4: See's it's essentially two father son duos that have become 955 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 4: big and you have like Big, justice, right the boom 956 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 4: guys From, costco and then you got The. Rizzler in, 957 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 4: conversation this is the whole point of getting, cultured culturing Paulse, 958 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 4: yeah look, out look out for The risberry flavor Of. 959 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 2: ARIZONA i do not find that riz tastic put it that. 960 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 2: Way did either. 961 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 4: Of you guys Watch Game? Thrones? 962 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: NO i should. Have that's on the. 963 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 4: List shame, Well i'm gonna tell you, anyway the character 964 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 4: named The mountain From Game throne set a world, record 965 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 4: a deadlift record of one twenty four. Pounds that's what it' 966 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 4: that's what it converts. 967 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 2: To oh my, gosh that's like a compact. Car SO 968 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 2: i Think i've seen this. Guy isn't he like six 969 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 2: nine six' Ten massive Iceland? 970 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 3: Or? 971 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: Greenland, yes right, and, yes yes say, oh yeah magnus. For, 972 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 2: badass yes something. Like, That yeah i've seen. This guy oh, 973 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 2: my goodness you. 974 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 4: Deadlift, Record Wow and bill. Is right bill's. Wide Receiver 975 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 4: khalil shakir saved nineteen dogs from. A shelter such a 976 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 4: cute video of them all in. A van so these 977 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 4: dogs were set to be euthanized out. Of shelter he 978 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 4: helped a local, rescue group the same rescue rescue group 979 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 4: where he actually rescued, his dog and they actually paired 980 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 4: up Back in may and saved twenty six dogs at 981 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 4: that point. As WELL so i know he's not, a 982 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 4: cardinal but around the league doing some. Good things and you've, 983 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 4: Been cultured. 984 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 2: You're welcome do you have? His number do you think 985 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 2: he wants? Twenty SEVEN because i have a rescue dog. 986 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 4: At home dare you Offer? Up cheeto? 987 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 3: That way? No way you posted a, video recently Was? 988 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 2: That? 989 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 3: Cheeto? 990 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 2: Cheeto yeah That. Was cheeto and he's definitely in the 991 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 2: doghouse because we've had a return of a bunch of 992 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: birds in the back and if he's got, one job one, 993 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,399 Speaker 2: JOB only i open the. Back door he runs out 994 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: there and chases away. The, birds nah he won't. Do. 995 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 2: It unbelievable, so yeah he's officially he's on the trading block. 996 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 2: Right now somebody make me. 997 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 4: An offer you could trade with one of my parents' 998 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: dogs who loves to catch bunnies and bring them into 999 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 4: the house as a reward for. His owner so beggars. 1000 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 2: My, Good, okay well it's better than having a bat in, 1001 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 2: the house which we had a few, weeks ago which 1002 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: that's a different story for a, different time especially since 1003 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 2: it was. My fault never good when you let a 1004 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 2: bat in the house at about ten thirty, at night are, You? 1005 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 3: Batman? 1006 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 2: Paul uh there, was vengeance let's put it, that way 1007 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 2: by the wife once she found out there was a 1008 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 2: bat against the bat or you in? The house me 1009 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 2: most definitely. Me uh and we won't talk about how 1010 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 2: it actually stayed in the house till the. Next morning, 1011 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 2: so ANYWAY The, nfc west if we're looking over the 1012 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 2: black wall into the backyard OF Our nfc, west neighbors 1013 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 2: the Last, place seahawks let's start. 1014 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 4: There with the you've been waiting for. 1015 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 2: That one the janky offensive line cost him, a game 1016 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 2: just like. We forecast didn't exactly know how or where 1017 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,919 Speaker 2: it was Right Tackle. Abe Lucas nick bosa gets, under 1018 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 2: him drives Him Into san darnold with a game on 1019 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 2: the line with thirty four seconds, to go they're Inside 1020 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 2: the niners. Red, zone boom his arm, is hit ball, 1021 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,280 Speaker 2: Comes out bosa. Pounces it. GAME over i. 1022 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 3: Can't think of a worse way to lose. A, GAME 1023 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 3: well i, probably could but there's not many worse ways 1024 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 3: to lose the game to have you get driven back 1025 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 3: close enough to your quarterback that you're causing. THE fumble, 1026 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 3: i mean. 1027 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 2: He actually got thrown on, His Back, abe lucas the 1028 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 2: right tackle. 1029 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 3: He did you just get, paid though before. The game 1030 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 3: so it's. All good. 1031 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 2: Oh boy so. There's that there's the fact that The 1032 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 2: revamped seahawks run game did a lot. Of nothing and 1033 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 2: It Was kenneth Walker And zach charboney when they Brought 1034 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 2: In clint kubiak for, one reason run the football and. 1035 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 2: They DIDN'T and i bring all this up because you 1036 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 2: Have the Seahawks in. Week four they also lost maybe 1037 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 2: the star, of camp the round Two rookie nick em, 1038 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 2: and worry the safety here that were using all over 1039 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 2: In A buddha, baker style injured his ankle five plays into. 1040 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 2: The game he's, out indefinitely that's what. They're saying so 1041 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 2: it definitely lasts. A month and then based On the, 1042 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 2: seahawks fans the, twelves reaction and based on what we 1043 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 2: saw of the highlights are Lack Thereof, reek woollen Their 1044 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,359 Speaker 2: Former pro, bowl cornerback had had the worst game by 1045 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 2: a Corner Since tyreek stevenson Of, the bears And The 1046 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: Commander's hail mary ended up on our powerpole of ineptitude 1047 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 2: right next To The. Endless Shrimp guy. 1048 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 4: Lobster has A. New ceo, that's right. 1049 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 2: They do and, so yeah right Betweenrupt Between ray gun 1050 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 2: And The endless Shrimp Was. Tyreek stevenson so That's your. 1051 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 2: Seahawks update they lost to the forty. Nine ers you 1052 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 2: get the forty nine ers in. Week three they are 1053 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 2: going to Be Missing, George, kittle yes HE'S on ir with. 1054 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 2: A hamstring are they going To haveving. Christian McCaffrey and by, 1055 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 2: the Way Remember george kittle Led the niners in both 1056 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 2: catches and receiving yards. Last year he was there just 1057 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 2: Like trem he Was their trey. McBride obviously and then 1058 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 2: they cut Their kicker i'm sorry. To laugh they tried 1059 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 2: to make. It work you guys know my affinity for. 1060 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 2: The specialists they spent a third round Pick On jake 1061 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 2: moody in twenty, twenty three so there, was this shall, 1062 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 2: we say apprehension to. Cut him But Even kyle shanahan 1063 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 2: reached his breaking point after. The opener he had one 1064 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 2: kick block from thirty yards and he missed a twenty 1065 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 2: Seven yard it. 1066 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 3: Was not a good opening weekend for, some kickers not. 1067 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 3: All kickers we had a sixty yard or two fifty 1068 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,240 Speaker 3: nine yarders and a fifty eight yard of, this weekend 1069 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 3: which is. Pretty amazing as we watched these field goals 1070 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 3: get longer. 1071 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 2: And longer but and then what we don't need out 1072 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 2: OF The nfc west Is the rams defense HOLDING. C 1073 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 2: j stroud And the texans to three. Field goals. 1074 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 3: That's it i'm don't get. ME wrong i Think the 1075 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 3: rams defense is going to be. Very GOOD but i 1076 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 3: also it seems That the texans Without A joe mixon 1077 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 3: because they don't really have a run game, right now 1078 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 3: that's going to. 1079 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 2: Be tough by, the way the quote of the week 1080 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 2: so far IS. C j stroud starting the week by 1081 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 2: Saying the texans were quote lolly gagging and going through 1082 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 2: the motions Against. The rams and by, THE way i 1083 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 2: didn't like all of last week's, Practices either THAT. Was. 1084 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 2: Cj Stroud so houston is off to a, swimming start 1085 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 2: that is. No, Bueno yeah. 1086 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 3: Cardinals get Texas in houston later in, The season yes. 1087 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 3: They do i'm sure they'll look a. Lot, different hey 1088 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,800 Speaker 3: did You know Paul That jalen carter got suspended for, 1089 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 3: a game but because he missed every play that they 1090 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 3: counted that as the, first game so he technically. Was 1091 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 3: suspended but he's already missed. 1092 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 2: His game so he'll lose the paycheck for. The, spit 1093 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 2: okay but he's back, All? Right okay and then what 1094 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 2: About the phillies Home? Run karen home Run? Ball karen 1095 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 2: tell me you? Know this, Oh yeah i've. Seen, This 1096 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 2: okay i've. Seen it but they haven't. Found her but see, 1097 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 2: that's okay you sure? About, that no. 1098 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 3: We don't we don't need to. Trust me she's been. 1099 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 3: Shamed enough and the fact that the kid ended up 1100 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 3: getting a meet with the dude who hit the home 1101 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 3: run and a bat and Then the marlins gave him 1102 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 3: a bunch. Of, gear true like the kid worked it worked. 1103 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 3: Out okay and and don't get, ME wrong i can 1104 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 3: be about the vigilanteism as much, As anybody but like she's, 1105 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 3: gotten crushed we don't need her name. Out there we 1106 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 3: don't need to dox her like. 1107 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 4: Come on those people also. Need hobbies couldn't should that 1108 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 4: situation of taking the ball, into right taking the ball 1109 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 4: away from the boy the dad had caught. The ball 1110 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 4: they were kind of fighting. For, it SURE but i 1111 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 4: agree at this point let's. Move on you don't need 1112 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 4: to completely try to destroy someone's life by doxing her information. 1113 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 3: For that she didn't go To a coldplay concert? In 1114 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 3: air did? 1115 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 2: You See the internet thought they had identified the woman's 1116 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 2: not good but it. Was misidentification and the lady who 1117 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 2: was getting all, the blowback she came out AND posted 1118 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 2: I wish i was. That skinny. I'm not and by, 1119 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 2: the way that's not only. Not me I'm A red. 1120 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 3: Sox fan, But see i'm glad that she could handle it. 1121 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 3: That way. Not everybody it doesn't go well. 1122 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 4: For everybody you just take it. Too far it's too 1123 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 4: easy when you're sitting behind a desk or you're just 1124 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 4: looking on. Your phone, come on, all. 1125 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 2: Right any other football matters that need to be tended, 1126 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 2: To remember september is still The. New august like we 1127 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 2: said a couple of, years ago we, still believe, you 1128 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 2: know a lot of these players are playing their way into. 1129 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 2: Game shape there's still a lot of mistakes used to 1130 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 2: see in the preseason you now see in the. REGULAR 1131 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 2: season i think it will look different across the League in. 1132 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 3: Week two at halftime of, The, game paul will you 1133 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 3: be right next to the Stage For. 1134 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 2: Sugar ray it's a good question that depends on what. 1135 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:23,919 Speaker 3: The casida i'm sorry. 1136 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 2: The Casas jim momahundro gave me the hook for the 1137 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 2: halftime Show In new orleans because it was, Too, loud so, 1138 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 2: YOU know i guess he's. Too old you're a Fan Of. 1139 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 4: MANNY fresh i don't know who. 1140 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 2: It WAS all i KNOW is i went looking for 1141 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 2: the head coach, at halftime only to realize that my 1142 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 2: venture into the stadium he was actually back out on 1143 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 2: the field. On cameras so there was a lot of 1144 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 2: wasted time by yours truly. At halftime but, you know. 1145 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 3: We'll safford you know It's about i'm the try. 1146 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 2: Hard guy. As evidence do. 1147 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 3: You Think jonathan gannon would eat? MEATLESS meatballs. 1148 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 2: I don't. Think so now this guy who like hits 1149 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 2: the cold to every morning at like five. 1150 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 4: Thirty, am so so if, you did like a blind, 1151 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 4: taste test you might. 1152 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 2: Like them i'm NOT saying i wouldn't necessarily. Like them 1153 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 2: i'm JUST saying i was confounded by the marketing and 1154 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,280 Speaker 2: the branding and the packaging. 1155 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 4: For, VEGETARIANS paul i, guess, so okay, ALL right i, 1156 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 4: guess so and someone has to fight. 1157 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,399 Speaker 2: For. Them yeah i'm gonna hear from my younger brother 1158 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 2: and his wife in a few minutes here after they 1159 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 2: get word. Of this, so yeah he doesn't, take kindly 1160 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 2: does any type of Slander. Towards yes, so okay, all 1161 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 2: right THAT'S why i stay at a. Grocery stores and, 1162 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 2: that's why, that's why that's why this will do it 1163 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 2: for cardinals underground here and weak two