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Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talked about

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Speaker 1: Sonny Jergensen and what he meant to this organization.

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Speaker 2: We got a Super Bowl recap and how close is Washington?

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Speaker 3: Not that far? Not that far?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: And then we got the draft Guru guaranteed Baller's results.

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Speaker 2: That all starts right now. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking Pulson here with Santana Moss and the guy

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Speaker 1: who's back from his hiatus.

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Speaker 3: That's not a hiatus that was working in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Fun super Bowl, but I will say, you actually did

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Speaker 1: a lot of really good stuff out there.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it pains me to say that about you.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you know when I when you send a real

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Speaker 4: guy into the field, a real big jay journalism type

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Speaker 4: guy like myself.

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Speaker 3: You get stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Big big jay journalism me. You talk to Brian Urlacker, I.

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Speaker 4: Talked to Darren Woodson, I talk I talked to some

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Speaker 4: great all right.

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Speaker 2: I talked to Riggins right yeah, oh, Rego, that was fun.

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Speaker 4: Go check that when out. If you haven't checked it out,

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Speaker 4: get loud podcast. It was fun talking to Rigo and

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Speaker 4: Rego raised. I'm talking about Solo game won Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: jersey four hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: When did he sell that? When did he.

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Speaker 2: Doing the week at the Super Bowl over? It was

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Speaker 2: an auction.

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Speaker 4: Oh so they auctioned it off and it sold for

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Speaker 4: four hundred half a million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Basically one time for Rego. My clauses, is it gonna

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Speaker 3: be worth it? Probably not, Probably get ten dollars in

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Speaker 3: some seeds.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously it's great to talk to the legends.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately this last week we lost the legend in

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Speaker 1: Sunny jerseys again. Uh God, that was just I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think about you know, I was from California. I'm

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Speaker 1: his impact to this organization.

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Speaker 2: And I know you guys.

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Speaker 1: Knew maybe I'm a little bit better than I did,

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Speaker 1: just wondering how you're feeling.

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Speaker 4: I got a chance to really really get to know

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Speaker 4: Sonny and see him huff because of this couch that

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Speaker 4: we had out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Right, anytime we got out our meetings, he go say,

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Speaker 4: here go Sunny sitting right there. I would sit right

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Speaker 4: in between them and I would just listen to some

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Speaker 4: stories as they go back and forth, and they was

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Speaker 4: actually some of the first pioneers of uh not only

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Speaker 4: having a great football career but moving on to the media.

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Speaker 4: So the stuff that we're doing right now, they were

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Speaker 4: in the forefront of getting it done.

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Speaker 3: I fina say the same thing often to say, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, didn't know Sonny a lot. Spoke with him

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Speaker 3: from time to time, especially, you know, just always being

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Speaker 3: that person that when you see I guess you could

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Speaker 3: say one of your elders, but also one of the

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Speaker 3: guys who paid the way here. Oh g you see

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Speaker 3: him in the building, you gotta speak, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. That's only right. And I've always you know,

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Speaker 3: did that and that ci god being inside of his

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Speaker 3: wondering like is he looking at me trying to size

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Speaker 3: then he'll come out with some kind of remark, some

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Speaker 3: you caut that pass last week and something that's off

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Speaker 3: to look on like I want to say something. But

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Speaker 3: he was a funny dude on the low, like you know,

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Speaker 3: he had a straight up things he would say out

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Speaker 3: of nowhere. You'd be like saying he said that, but

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Speaker 3: it just shows you that he's watching. But he was

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Speaker 3: one of us, you know what I mean, He's he's

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Speaker 3: been in these shoes before. So he's just a you know,

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Speaker 3: a guy that most guys, if you're not a football

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Speaker 3: savant and you don't really know the history like that,

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Speaker 3: like speaking on what Fred is talking about opening those

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Speaker 3: and you know, I'm wishing him well and after life

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Speaker 3: for the.

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Speaker 4: New guys, the young guys that didn't watch their grainy TV.

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Speaker 4: He was the first to do the behind the back pass,

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Speaker 4: not Patrick Mahone, Sonny Jerki.

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Speaker 1: No, And I think, uh Hall of Fame career obviously,

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Speaker 1: a kind of a guy that you know, kind of

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go play my way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, correct, And so really again, what a special

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Speaker 1: you know, ninety one years old though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lived it to the Phillies. Yeah, pretty lived it

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Speaker 2: to the Phillies.

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Speaker 4: Also, we lost another great, great Washington player in Barry

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Speaker 4: Wheelburn coner back all Pro nine interceptions in one season.

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Speaker 3: He was another one man.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's you never want to hear, but you

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Speaker 4: always want to acknowledge when.

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Speaker 1: You have absolutely and so again, huge impact on the organization,

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Speaker 1: huge impact on us. You know, in the limited time

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Speaker 1: we were exposed him out here on the couch. You

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Speaker 1: brought that up, Fred the couch man again. You know

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Speaker 1: really know who he was. Yeah, so here's this, you know,

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Speaker 1: older gentleman, two older gentlemen sitting on the couch, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: one of them is smoking a cigar inside the inside.

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Speaker 2: To build that, I was like, it's nineteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, who is that guy? He was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's Sonny Jerginsen. I was like, oh dang, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, now now I'm shaping up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm locked in.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, so you know best Sunny and his family and

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Speaker 1: obviously that's uh, that's really sad. But now we're getting

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Speaker 1: a break one and get started with the show. A

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Speaker 1: little super Bowl recap coming up. So Fred, you want

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Speaker 3: As you see, I've lost my voice a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've been at it for a week. I've

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Speaker 2: been at before a week into Super Bowl and a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah a hearing some of the support stuff that went

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Speaker 1: with you oufter San Francisco. Yeah sounds like you you

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Speaker 1: really you were working, but you also know how to listen.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 4: First of all, San Francisco is a great city. Let's

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Speaker 4: start there. Second of all, seventy degrees, all right. The

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Speaker 4: one thing I did was every morning I got up

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Speaker 4: and took a job sixteen miles. Then at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, I made sure the night had some attention.

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Speaker 2: I made sure that I sold.

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Speaker 4: Around the city of San Francisco. I saw everything. Not

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Speaker 4: only did I went to the full househouse, all right,

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Speaker 4: I went, I went there.

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Speaker 2: I saw that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to the Golden gate Bridge. So I

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Speaker 4: did all the tours and stuff. But then at night, you.

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Speaker 3: Ain't doing no damn job. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's like it's like two truths and the light.

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Speaker 3: Oh way, got lighting there. You gotta start it off

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Speaker 3: with it lot.

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Speaker 2: Did he did he keep the night company? Yes? Did

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Speaker 2: he go everywhere?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: What's the lie? The fact you had for sixteen miles?

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Speaker 1: Dude, excellent job both of you. And I looked at

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Speaker 1: some comments Fred. Yeah, and I had to do your

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Speaker 2: I said, Man, we Missfred on those reads? Did you butcher?

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Speaker 2: I didn't butcher them. I just read them. You know

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Speaker 1: You had no emotion, you know, I'm just I'm miss

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Speaker 2: No, man, you gotta read it with emotion.

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Speaker 3: Try.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try a little more emotion this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it ain't just emotion. Just think of yourself as

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Speaker 4: a verbal commercial. So if you a verilable commercial, you want.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna do it today. Give me some feedback

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Speaker 1: on there, let me see how it goes, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And I forgot to say this at the top, but

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Speaker 1: Mission ready AI for a rapidly evolving world. And we're

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Speaker 1: in the Big Bear Command Center studio, Yes we are.

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Speaker 1: So just to make sure we get all that stuff

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Speaker 1: taken care of. We got a little emotional because the

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Speaker 1: all right. So let's talk about Super Bowl. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming everyone watched Super Bowl, right.

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Speaker 2: It was marvelous. I know everybody. People say it was boring.

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Speaker 4: No ship up. It was marvelous. It was a defensive masterpiece.

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Speaker 4: It is a defensive player X defensive player watching these

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Speaker 4: two defensive master minds go blow for blow in the game.

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Speaker 4: Didn't really get out of hand to the fourth court,

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Speaker 4: all right, So it was blow.

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Speaker 3: Say what you want? That New England defense played good enough.

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Speaker 4: To win a championship? Didn't they play good enough win

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Speaker 4: a championship? But I want to call this the no

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Speaker 4: names defense. Seattle doesn't have that top five linebacker, doesn't

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Speaker 4: some guys on their back end. It's this top five players,

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Speaker 4: but they just it's one unit. They suffocate you. They

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Speaker 4: suffocate you with four people rushing these guys on the

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Speaker 4: back end making plays. Witherspoon looked like run day Bob

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Speaker 4: of the second. It was marvelous to watch this game.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was great and for the first time

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Speaker 4: this season, Drake made looked like a second year player.

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Speaker 2: I think through the whole playoffs, and I think this

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Speaker 1: think he's going to be an awesome football player. But

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Speaker 1: I do think you see some of the like the

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Speaker 4: Where that offensive line got tossed around. Listen Will Campbell.

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Speaker 4: Now they talked about his kangaroo uns when he came

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a lot of things I think in

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Speaker 1: Where it's like, I think the type of edge rusher

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, compressed the pocket.

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Speaker 2: And I think you see the other thing too.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the whole playoffs here in

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Speaker 1: a second, but like you see the things that are

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Speaker 1: beating the Vic Fangio defense, and the team that was

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Speaker 1: most successful was the La Rams because they can pass protect, right,

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Speaker 1: They've got these bigger offensive linemen.

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Speaker 2: They've invested a lot there and they stick with the run.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And so I think it's funny like with this resurgence

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Speaker 1: Seattle this year, like the pendulum swinging back to running

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Speaker 1: And I just think it's an interesting dynamic watching the shift.

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Speaker 1: And also the other thing that the that the Rams

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Speaker 3: He also say that a quarterback and too capable outside

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm with you, Fred, like far as just

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, as the game got going on,

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Speaker 3: they they exposed them. Because when you can't really be

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Speaker 3: blocking for the quarterback. Yeah, and your run game isn't

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Speaker 4: Turned the ball up and put the turned the ball

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the thing is like when you

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Speaker 3: Of stay the way, don't have to do much. And

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Speaker 3: like one of the things I saw that. That's that

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Speaker 3: that was loud because of a good friend of mine

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Speaker 3: giving him. I'm like, yeah, I say, I would give

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Speaker 3: OC did a great job. That defense played well all year,

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Speaker 3: but I was like, the players don't match up. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that just because Drake May is young

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Speaker 3: it's needed? And don't get me wrong, those guys made

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Speaker 3: don't have enough time to make those plays that you

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Speaker 3: I mean, what is pulling them? Dus Man, They was

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Speaker 3: coming to blissed. I saw them blister on the Peanut Man,

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Speaker 3: I saw him Milly the girl with throwing shirts and

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Speaker 3: they sent everybody after the m and that's what changed

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Speaker 4: And like I said, when you mixed it and I

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Speaker 3: For Seattle, I forgot his name. He was letting it.

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Speaker 3: He was changing the field.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think again, this is the this is the

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Speaker 1: then we talked about this all the time, Keysta victory.

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Speaker 1: It's they didn't turn the football over. They tackled on defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they pressured the quarterback and then they played the field

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Speaker 1: they ran it rock And again those are things that

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm glad you write up Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: New England's pressure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so for him to not take sacks and

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Speaker 4: To he do it for Sam Donald. Does he get

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Speaker 3: I, honestly, and before logan, because I want to hear

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Speaker 3: But I think too the team wasn't, you know, on

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Speaker 3: Now you have to have to Now to me, you

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Speaker 4: But out of his classmates, Josh Allen, we crowned him,

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, we all love Lamar this, this guy that's

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Speaker 4: But this guy, say, I'm donald got it and he

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Speaker 3: Isn't it safe to say too? With all that being

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Speaker 3: years before that player might not have rules to the challenge,

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Speaker 3: So there's been times when you've seen those players that

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Speaker 3: to talk about Josh Allen, I believe this year was

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't like getting caught up in the hole. Well,

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Speaker 3: this is the reason why he made it, or this

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Speaker 4: I think when you become that top five highest paid quarterback,

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's That's exactly what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: It's because like again, like the team for Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: but the team is so much better. And again, like

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the same thing that happened with Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Like the roster starts to Detigrade Russell, Roil, Scott Russell, Wilson,

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Speaker 2: Like, it's just really hard. It is a team game,

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Speaker 1: And when b Mitch was sitting in your seat last week,

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Speaker 1: it's a dependent position in a way that people don't

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Speaker 2: People think the rosters depending on the quarterback. No, the

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Speaker 1: And I think you see that, Like, to me, this

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Speaker 1: same thing with Philadelphia last year quite honestly, Like, I

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Speaker 2: It's the roster that carried those most definitely.

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Speaker 4: And right now of throwing the ball, Sam Donald's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that's absolutely correct.

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Speaker 4: So it allows him to unlock his offensive roster more

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Speaker 1: No, I think I think you're one hundred percent right

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Speaker 1: is Kenneth Walker, the third first running back since Terrell Davis.

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Speaker 2: I would I would not have guests. Yeah, I mean

439
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Speaker 2: neither say Loan.

440
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Speaker 3: It's a long.

441
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Speaker 4: Time man for and you know at that time, especially

442
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Speaker 4: when Dame were playing.

443
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Speaker 2: Were you playing at the time.

444
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Speaker 3: We ain't that old man.

445
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Speaker 4: Dave was playing the Super Yeah, when John hal Wait

446
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl, me and Talnent was what year

447
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Speaker 4: was that?

448
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Speaker 3: That's probably like a year before we got out, two

449
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Speaker 3: years to two.

450
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Speaker 2: Years, three years before we got here.

451
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Speaker 3: Oh, wasn't that far off? Yeah? Well, you know, Terrea

452
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Speaker 3: Davis would win the Golden Years? Were watching upon was

453
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Speaker 3: we was trying to get there?

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

455
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean I think that's pretty impressive. But again,

456
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Speaker 1: like really deserving of being the m v P.

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Speaker 2: I think Kenneth.

458
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Speaker 4: Walker, nobody else, well Witherspoon could have been the MVP,

459
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Speaker 4: but Kenneth Walker, he really did deserve that. When he

460
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Speaker 4: took his helm and off, I thought he was like

461
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Speaker 4: forty three.

462
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Speaker 2: Did you Yeah, he's like twenty five.

463
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Speaker 4: He's really he got that the face of a granddad.

464
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you're ruthless. No, I'm not man.

465
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Speaker 4: When you watching TV and that we got out this HD.

466
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Speaker 3: I just saw him on a love he was out there.

467
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Speaker 3: I guess you could call the desk at Disney. And

468
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Speaker 3: the first thing came up in my head is what

469
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Speaker 3: Fred said. By that guy, he don't look that over already.

470
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Speaker 2: Ball shouldn't be ball headed.

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Speaker 3: His voice didn't even sound like you know, most of

472
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Speaker 3: the time, you know, when a guy has a look,

473
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Speaker 3: that voice goes with it. Yeah, he looked young. He

474
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Speaker 3: sounds young, you know. And oh and I will say

475
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Speaker 3: that hating as all.

476
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Speaker 1: We everyone's talking about, like you know, why Die and

477
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Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker get more touches earlier in the year and

478
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Speaker 1: Knight was running well, I'll tell you this, like he

479
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Speaker 1: runs the ball probably better, like really really high level.

480
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Speaker 1: But that's really you know, so it's like it's show.

481
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Speaker 1: I think that also shows the direction of the position.

482
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Speaker 1: This felt like a very traditional Super Bowl. The running

483
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Speaker 1: back that's gonna run. Yeah, you're gonna summit to the run.

484
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Speaker 1: You're gonna play defense, and like those other elements of

485
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Speaker 1: the position didn't come well.

486
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Speaker 4: New England couldn't play they most explosive guy Henderson because

487
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Speaker 4: he can't pass blood.

488
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Speaker 2: That's a great one.

489
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Speaker 4: They like, they wanted to play it, but every time

490
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Speaker 4: he got the game, they gave him the rock. Because

491
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Speaker 4: we're not giving you the rock, You're putting us at

492
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Speaker 4: a disadvantage. That's why Stevenson took over in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Also too, you think about it, I mean, who would

494
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Speaker 3: have came in that game and thought that jes N

495
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Speaker 3: wanting to be that's a great part of their you know,

496
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Speaker 3: their success and Cooper Cup been there done that though

497
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Speaker 3: I'm not no, I'm not even knocking. I'm just saying,

498
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Speaker 3: it's just for you to be able to still win

499
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Speaker 3: at that magnitude, at the level of they went out

500
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Speaker 3: there and did it without your number one guy who's

501
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Speaker 3: been leading away in the passage.

502
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Speaker 4: But you know, like when you got a good number one,

503
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Speaker 4: sometimes your job really just to.

504
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Speaker 3: Open it up for everybody out.

505
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Speaker 1: But also, how about how about gonzales Man hold that

506
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Speaker 1: good was hell like?

507
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Speaker 3: He was just he made the play when they presented

508
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Speaker 3: themselves at one of the end zone. He could have

509
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Speaker 3: picked that when one of the end zone was crazy.

510
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Speaker 2: He had a third down break up, he had the

511
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Speaker 2: one on Cooper Cup that was a good like.

512
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Speaker 4: And he's in the hip no right, and he clean

513
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Speaker 4: he ain't playing He playing through the play, not through

514
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Speaker 4: the player It.

515
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Speaker 1: Was awesome to watch because you don't see I mean

516
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Speaker 1: at least now, like I've been watching a lot of

517
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Speaker 1: college dbs.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no one plays like that in college, you know

519
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So to see him so confident, so big.

520
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Speaker 3: Tay in his backyard, that thing that's that's that's you

521
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Speaker 3: know that that stands out the most is when you

522
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Speaker 3: have size and you're able to you know, be that,

523
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 3: be that agile and kind of play with any any

524
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: type in any style wide out like that's a rare breed,

525
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, That's something that you're looking

526
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Speaker 3: forward to saying, like we want to see more guys

527
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Speaker 3: with this makeup, you know, I.

528
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Speaker 1: Mean again, because he's guarding Jason as the true ax

529
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Speaker 1: and the best route run in the league. Cooper Cup

530
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Speaker 1: in the slot like he was all over the formation

531
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Speaker 1: and did a great job.

532
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Speaker 2: Bonner the tight end, uh Ba Bonner?

533
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Speaker 3: Is this Barner?

534
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Speaker 2: Barner?

535
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Speaker 3: Bar Yeah?

536
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Speaker 1: Since I thought he had a great game, Dude, he's

537
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Speaker 1: He's become quite a good ball player. I mean he's

538
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick out of Michigan. Not a lot

539
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: of love and dude, like he's big, he blocks well, yeah,

540
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Speaker 1: Jillly impressive.

541
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Speaker 2: All right, let's play some bills and then we'll talk

542
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: about what we can learn.

543
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: Bills, bills, bills. All right, huddle up, team, It's time

544
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: to call you a winter audible, because when the temps drop,

545
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 3: the real magic kicks off. In West Virginia. Think trails

546
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: that crunch like game day turf ski runs for every

547
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: level of fan, and cozy cabins that won't break your budget,

548
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 3: Trade lift line chaos for wide open slopes out the

549
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Speaker 3: cocoa breaks by crackling fires, and the mountains dressed a

550
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Speaker 3: tin press and they blanket up pure white. I see you, Hey,

551
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 3: you know it, So grab your squad, pack your cold

552
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: weather swag, and head to almost having this winter Wes.

553
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Speaker 2: He's got that, he's got that.

554
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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 5: First of all, what you go kick on your beer?

556
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 5: Right about serious? You ain't doing something right? You're doing

557
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 5: something right?

558
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: Then talk about you, man, how do you feel when

559
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 4: you switch to Geico and save on your car insurance?

560
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 4: It's like finding that parking spot in front of that

561
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 4: busy outdoor cafe where you're meeting old friends from college

562
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 4: and you're about to pair lel park until ohso tight spot,

563
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 4: and then everyone in the cafe stops to watch and

564
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 4: you nail it in one try. Like the pairallel parking baller,

565
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 4: you are nobody clept, but you know they really wanted to. Yep,

566
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 4: Switching and saving with Geico feels just like that. Get

567
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 4: more with Geico.

568
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Speaker 1: Excellent jobs, both of you. Right of applause. All right,

569
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Speaker 1: now it's on what did we learn from the Super Bowl?

570
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Speaker 1: Brought to you by the US Army. Be touched, not

571
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: just on paper. Be strong and more than muscle. Be

572
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Speaker 1: courageous and supported by a mighty team.

573
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Speaker 2: Be all you can be. Visit go Army dot com

574
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Speaker 2: to learn more. All right, So what can we learn

575
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Speaker 2: from Seattle?

576
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Speaker 3: And I'll start.

577
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Speaker 1: I guess to me one thing what kind of comes

578
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: to the forefront is you need a dominant sub package

579
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Speaker 1: defender like Nickel defender, diame linebacker and then Witherspoon right

580
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: like that.

581
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Speaker 2: Like that type of body.

582
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Speaker 1: And I think about Philly from last year, right like

583
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Speaker 1: with like that, you need that that guy's on the

584
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: field so much. They need to be able to fit

585
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Speaker 1: the run, they able to play man coverage. They need

586
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Speaker 1: to be good blitzers because like they're just they're more

587
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Speaker 1: than they're like a linebacker. They're on the field that often,

588
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Speaker 1: and so if you don't have that guy, you need

589
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Speaker 1: to find that guy.

590
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Speaker 4: I think positional evening. I think every position is starting

591
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 4: to be even now. You know how it used to

592
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Speaker 4: be quarterbacks.

593
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Speaker 2: Up here, and we need this as it's leveling out.

594
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Speaker 4: But you're leveling out to now you're looking and saying,

595
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: we need an entire roster, like we got to have

596
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Speaker 4: a kicker, We gotta have a punter, like we gotta

597
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 4: have it all. Like I think it ain't to the

598
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 4: point where you're so good in one room that it

599
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: covers up deficiencies in another room. They all have to

600
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Speaker 4: be even out. Not saying I need a pro Bowl

601
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 4: talent in each room. What I'm saying is I need

602
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Speaker 4: my talent to be right around, hovering around each other

603
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Speaker 4: to let me know that my roster is even.

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Speaker 3: Yah. Yeah, I need a team. I think what I've

605
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: learned just watching them defensively. One, I want to defense

606
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Speaker 3: that hunts. Two, I want a team of guys that

607
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: one band one sound. You know what I'm saying, Like,

608
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: it ain't no, you got ten sacks, I'm just here. No,

609
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 3: it's you get you, some get you some you get

610
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Speaker 3: you some and the back end we all shut things down.

611
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Speaker 3: We might have one or two guys that's name bigger

612
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: than everybody because of just who they are, but collectively

613
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Speaker 3: we all eating together. Yeah, that's what I saw defensively

614
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Speaker 3: from these guys. And then don't I mean it didn't

615
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: drop off offense either, you know what I mean? He

616
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Speaker 3: protected the quarterback. Well, they ran the football. Hell, the

617
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Speaker 3: guy who didn't even play when he was playing this year,

618
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Speaker 3: he ran the ball. The wide receivers. People was like, well,

619
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Speaker 3: who on the outside of ja he ain't gonna do something.

620
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Speaker 3: I was like, if they want to be you know,

621
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Speaker 3: and go out there, push some someplash plays, twenty two

622
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Speaker 3: shot get They got a Cooper Cup in the middle

623
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Speaker 3: of the damn field that none other than the triple

624
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Speaker 3: crown hold of himself that can catch, moved and change

625
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Speaker 3: every time you need to move. So that was a

626
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Speaker 3: team effort that was top to bottom to me. And

627
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Speaker 3: then that's not talk about the coaching, offensive coordinator, the

628
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Speaker 3: d the head coaches, the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: I love that he's still calling, see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So I felt about that.

631
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Speaker 3: Man. That was a team that was a Super Bowl

632
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Speaker 3: made team from coaches to players to going out there

633
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Speaker 3: and winning the chip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well coach.

635
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Speaker 1: The other thing I'd say, too is the one thing

636
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Speaker 1: that stuck out to me on both sides of the

637
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: football is Tanner talked about it going to hunt but

638
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: like obviously Philly last year did it with four win

639
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: a rush four. We're going to create pressure that way yea.

640
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Speaker 1: And throughout the season Seattle has been a rush for

641
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 1: type of but when you in this game, they pitched up.

642
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: We're bringing simulated pressures. We're bringing some of that zero

643
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: look that Minnesota, but we still plans home behind.

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00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to know what too, And I don't

645
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: want to cut you. I want to see it quick

646
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: because they knew the opponent was much younger, wet behind

647
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Speaker 3: his ears, and let's show him something different. Yeah, let's

648
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: make him rest, rattle him enough to where we get

649
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: him out the game early? Is our? Is that yet?

650
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Speaker 1: But I think I mean, I look at New England too,

651
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: and I think Seattle had all the time with pass protection,

652
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: and so right now, to me, what I'm seeing is

653
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: the blitz packages and the way that they're designing those

654
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: packages are ahead of the pass protection at the moment. Yeah,

655
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Speaker 1: And so I think it's awesome that Washington is bringing

656
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Speaker 1: in Derontae Jones, who has been in the defense.

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Speaker 3: Cut from the cloud.

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Speaker 1: That's at the forefront of that, right because so talking

659
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Speaker 1: about talking about learning, I think there's lessons that already

660
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: implementing because again, like the format overloads, the nickel pressures,

661
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Speaker 1: the patterns that the other thing is like, you know,

662
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Speaker 1: I'm a big offensive line guy. Yeah, the of these

663
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: like they run them in a way where you like

664
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Speaker 1: usually you kind of we're gonna double bump this. We're

665
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to get two on three for in

666
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Speaker 1: terms of past protectors to rushers, and we will be

667
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Speaker 1: okay because the widest rusher won't get there. But they

668
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Speaker 1: time them and they kind of sticking on stems so

669
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Speaker 1: long that they get free runners. And so just the

670
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: way they're coaching that right now, well he gonna.

671
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Speaker 3: Think about it. He is.

672
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Speaker 4: They them fort them the front, four big guys, they're

673
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: gonna handle it. But when they add notice that when

674
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 4: they rushed, they didn't rush backers.

675
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: They rush speed.

676
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Speaker 1: They rush because because they've built that's what I'm saying,

677
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: They've built the middle of their defense like that they've

678
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Speaker 1: got two guys when you get at the two side speed,

679
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Speaker 1: and so think about the tweeter body type.

680
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Speaker 2: Like one of the things I'm doing linebackers.

681
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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about this more when you're on the show, friend,

682
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: But like linebackers, I'm always looking for dudes that can

683
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: run and cover because they got to cover grass.

684
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Speaker 2: They got a blitz.

685
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Speaker 1: That's why I love Harl Perkins the l issue, right,

686
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: And so they're may be not the exact body type

687
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Speaker 1: because Harl Perkins is six foot, he's two twenty, like,

688
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 1: he's not a big guy.

689
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: He's more of a safety. But I think that's the direction.

690
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: If you can win on first down again, then they

691
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: win with four like they win with their front four

692
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Speaker 1: at that. But then it's the second level players they

693
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: can just flat out run, cover grass, tackle and space

694
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Speaker 1: with Seattle man, I think that's got to be something

695
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: to think about moving forward, right, No, No, No, it's.

696
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Speaker 3: You know the tempt plate changes every four or five years.

697
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Speaker 4: I just think we in the change now where teams

698
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: are leaning less on my quarterback heroics more on my

699
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 4: total team.

700
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's the same, dude. I mean,

701
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Speaker 1: I think it's true of the last two years, right,

702
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: And it goes to the question like do you really

703
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Speaker 1: need an elite quarterback?

704
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Speaker 2: And I don't think it changes. My answer doesn't change.

705
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, because if you have an elite quarterback, you

706
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: always want an elite quarterback.

707
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: Hold elite quarterback versus elite roster. And I think that's

708
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: the question, that's the ultimate question.

709
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Speaker 3: A quarterback that I know who's gonna go out and

710
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: I need an elite roster.

711
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: That's what I and I don't think it's a coincidence.

712
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: The last two teams that have won the Super Bowl

713
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: elite rosters, elite roster with you know, there's this this

714
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: truck trailer in our quarterback player good quarterback, they're they're

715
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: they're fine quarterbacks, but they're not But they're not Pat Mahome.

716
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Speaker 2: They're not the top four guys, right in terms of like.

717
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: When I cut on Joe Burrow film, like this dude's

718
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: amazing ripping it, Josh Allen, this dude's a baller, you know,

719
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: Like there's just a different Lamar Homes like they're in

720
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: that different tier. And these guys. Sam Draw is a

721
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: great example. I think he played like I said, he

722
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: think he played his face office. He did, but he's

723
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Speaker 1: insulated by a defense that is a whole roster.

724
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Speaker 2: But the mother guy is like, here, go win the game.

725
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Speaker 1: You know.

726
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Speaker 3: And you know what I wondered, because I was watching

727
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: the game saying this, I promise you, I kid you not.

728
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: I was like, I wonder, did we stunt the growth

729
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: of teams in this league by trying to get always

730
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: go out there and get that eat quarterback? Dude? What

731
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Speaker 3: a question tanna see watching the game, I'm like, I

732
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: think they went out there and they we want the

733
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: quarterback quarter and they forgot that. If we build a

734
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: team and get a capable guy who can go out

735
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: there and run the offense the way you supposed to do.

736
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: I think about Chad Pennington. Chad Pennington would move that

737
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: ball from the inch from the inch line goal line

738
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: here to the next one. No one cared about him

739
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: throwing the ball fifty yards down the field because he

740
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: would methodically move that football, move the chains, and we

741
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: had a great team around every time. You see what

742
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And now we get away from those kind

743
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: of quarterbacks because we want the next Joe Montana, we

744
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: want the next Tom Brady, next Peyton manny that can

745
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: go out there and see a defense rigging franchise. No coach,

746
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: stop stop wanting your quarterback to be more of a

747
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: coach than you. You coach, you put him in the

748
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: best situation. You give him two players that he can

749
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: check out of that he can put his team into

750
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: the best You know what I mean said when it

751
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: comes to the different formation, I mean a different coverage

752
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: he might see, and I think we kind of stunted

753
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: because you see so many teams now the teams don't

754
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: compare to the quarterbabacks. He's wanting all that money here

755
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: and now you got Medoka guys out there. Coach Gibbs

756
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 3: won his quarterback with I mean his Super Bowl, them

757
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: three trophies. We got in there with great teams.

758
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 4: He running with three different quarterbacks, but the great team

759
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: remained the same.

760
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: You know, I think messed this up. Honestly, it's Patrick Mahomes.

761
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: But people forget that the first part of Patrick Mahomes.

762
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: Sat on the bench for a year.

763
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: But also like it didn't even like that he went

764
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: to Casey for people like Boo.

765
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: But but I'm saying he had four years or four

766
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: or five years where he was like the team was better. Well,

767
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: they had tareek heel like Diplos and great offensive line.

768
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: Defense was getting after and then it switched. He got

769
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: a lot of money. They start to lose players. But

770
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: I think that like people forget, Like same thing with

771
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was in the beginning, it was team and

772
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: then it transitioned, and I think people only remember the

773
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: post transition where.

774
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, this dude's like, we need that guy.

775
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: But it takes time time to build that guy.

776
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: Right, But Tom's showing us what we've been saying all

777
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: the time. By the time you get to hit the

778
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: age where he was really slicing and dicing you, that's

779
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: the best part of your career because you know how

780
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: much the game slows down for you when you get older.

781
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: Like as a receiver, Bro, I couldn't believe the stuff

782
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: I was seeing because when I was young man, my

783
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: brain was moving at warp speed.

784
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: You know what.

785
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: Beat him. I'm sitting there like, Bro, I didn't even

786
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: know who this dude is in front of me, twenty something.

787
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: I don't know his face because I don't look at

788
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: him in the eye. I beat him. I beat him

789
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: every time I'm looking at his show I'm looking at

790
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: his chest. Guys used to talk to me on the

791
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: field going back to the hood, and I swear I

792
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: didn't even know what I was talking to. If you

793
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: wasn't a guy that I played with in college or somewhere,

794
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 3: I just knew I'd be like, yeah, yeah, well I

795
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: got you. And the whole time. If you asked me,

796
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: if the guy came up to me when I hemmelzu,

797
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 3: I probably won't know who he was unless I looked

798
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: at his number because I didn't care about him. I

799
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: cared about beating my guy. It was just like you

800
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: know how you play that that old football game when

801
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: they had the people on the thing, And that's how

802
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: I feel like I was playing at time, like I

803
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 3: didn't know nobody face. I couldn't see your face. All

804
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: I saw is your mask and your number, and I'm

805
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: trying to beat you. So when I got older in

806
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: my game, I looked at your hair, I look that

807
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: your eyebrids your mustache. The game slowed down for me.

808
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 3: Now I'm looking at different things that I can see.

809
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 3: I want to see if you fear me or nothing.

810
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: I want to see if a guy don't get up there,

811
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Speaker 3: and most of the guys that talked to you, they're

812
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: a little gause they're trying to talk to you.

813
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: No, I was, and I was a Viking, you know

814
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

815
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: So I just want to see what's the difference, because

816
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: now the game, to me is a game. I'm trying

817
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: to get edge whatever by any mean, that's see.

818
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: So with all that being said, yeah, how close is

819
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders team to being on the same level

820
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: as the Seattle La San Francis.

821
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: We got ways to go now, because.

822
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying.

823
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: Do we got high end players? Yes, we need to

824
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 4: get the middle together. And when I say middle, I

825
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: ain't talking. I ain't trying to downgrade a player. I'm

826
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: just saying the middle has to be more stacked.

827
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Speaker 1: Like the role players on that team. Like people think

828
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: about like role players is being a bad word. But

829
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: I look at read for Seattle. Yeah he is a

830
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Speaker 1: role play Yeah players, Yeah, and they.

831
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Speaker 3: Fill those roles.

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Speaker 2: At a really high level.

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Speaker 3: Right.

834
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Speaker 1: And so I look at the other thing about Seattle,

835
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: and this whole thing that I think I learned from

836
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: is they have had four years of excellent drafts.

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Speaker 3: Back to back. The bike the bike and how.

838
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: Do they fill out the middle of their roster.

839
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: The role players, a lot of them are draft picks,

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00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: third full field seeks and if you look at the

841
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: what Dan Quinn Adam Peters inherited, there was not a

842
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Speaker 1: lot of.

843
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: No draft notes. So it was crazy.

844
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Speaker 1: Like I did a show this morning with for Take

845
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Speaker 1: Command and one of the things that came up is

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00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: like over the last four years of their first from

847
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: round one to four, Seattle has two people that are

848
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: no longer in the NFL two drafting great right there,

849
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: and the Washington Commanders under Ron Rivera, I think had

850
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: two people that were still on the team after Ron's tenure.

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Speaker 2: So just a total flip, right who did Quan Mayd

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Speaker 2: Kwan Chris Paul and I think?

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Speaker 4: And uh then about it in terms of draft picks, No,

854
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Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. But you cannot misstate many times.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why it's so important that this process

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Speaker 1: of free agency is important because you're looking for those

857
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: role players bill the roster. Oh and then you're looking

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Speaker 1: for the draft picks also. So that's the thing that

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Speaker 1: Philly did a great job of. Yeah, this is the

860
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Speaker 1: thing they built through the draft. They supplement with free agency,

861
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Speaker 1: and they hit on kind of all the strings, but

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Speaker 1: we got to get the middle right.

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Speaker 2: So now I think we're at break three.

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Speaker 1: And after break through we're going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: real draft guru me Fred or producer Jason.

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Speaker 2: I think of beat like Beacher, but I wasn't even here.

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Speaker 3: You were't supposed to hear. You did it before I did.

882
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Speaker 3: You want to have an injury? I should have channel

883
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: mind on my herd. Hey, I wonder what they said

884
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: about that that read last week said I didn't even

885
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Speaker 3: look into the to the d M. It was excellent,

886
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Speaker 3: Yeah it was, it was excellent.

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Speaker 4: It was you do your US Army. How about you

888
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: do that?

889
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: You know what?

890
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: Comments on any.

891
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: And they said they probably said they was they was

892
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: happy to hear. Oh hear less at libs too. You

893
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because you know you always that's

894
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Speaker 3: what break a commercial into life.

895
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Speaker 1: I will say in the comments of this last video,

896
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: you can go look at her. When b was here,

897
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: he'll be all the fans were like, man, I really

898
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: miss Fred on that guy code reading. I just missed him,

899
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: just the character that comes through.

900
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: So you got a lot of love. I know, I know,

901
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: Tanna just beat your ass right there. Excuse my language,

902
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: but you know.

903
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if you want to put it like

904
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: if anybody one person can congred this in God's in

905
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: this is his name, Leva Leva Bird.

906
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: That's don't the guy that great?

907
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, all right, So US Army Fred, they

908
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: say your work defines you who you are. It does

909
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, nine to five, you are clocking in

910
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: what happens on the weekend.

911
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: What happens to your time? You could take it easy

912
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: or you can use that time to get better. Fred

913
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: I am right, are you okay? In the US Army,

914
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: we think differently. It's your time. Your time should be

915
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: used to improve the skills you do have and learn

916
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 2: some you don't, to push yourself in new ways, because

917
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 2: it's those days that truly define who you are. That's

918
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: how you make progress. Sorry, Tanna just got cut out

919
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: on the camera over there?

920
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: What happened? Don't blame it on tail o U C

921
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: l A.

922
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: That's how you make progress. That's how you make an

923
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: impact on the world around you. It's your time. How

924
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: you spend it's up to you. It's your time. The

925
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: US Army.

926
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: Reserve, Yeah, it was a blinking red So oh there

927
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: you go.

928
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 4: You know how, you're gonna try to blame that terrible

929
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: read on Tanna because Tanna came and missing on screen,

930
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 4: and then you're gonna be like, hey, this that's why

931
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 4: I'm fumbling this read.

932
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: Well, I can't read, but I'm glad we got the

933
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: camera fixed. Are we starting up and just hit it?

934
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: Or what? Okay? All right?

935
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: So those are the reads and now it's time for

936
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 2: something I'm a little nervous about.

937
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: Quite honestly, the.

938
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: Real draft guru guaranteed baller's draft results. So on our

939
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: Drive to the Draft podcast, we always pick how many

940
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: prospects four or five? Six?

941
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: I can't remember, Yeah.

942
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: Four, five, six prospects that with it are guaranteed ballers

943
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: this year. I like how we did it.

944
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: We picked a guy from the first round, a guy

945
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: from the third round, and then the guy from later

946
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: in the draft, if I remember correctly.

947
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: And right now, producer Anna no Amanda.

948
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: Amanda has got the results, and she's got a little

949
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: koy smile on her face, and I'm a little nervous

950
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: as to what's going on.

951
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 6: So before before we get the results, I mean, uh,

952
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 6: can people hear doing this?

953
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: Because I just yeah, that got on my cart.

954
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 6: Okay, she's doing this because last year Logan got so

955
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 6: mad a great and curtys I did how I great?

956
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: Then he thought I was like it was unfair.

957
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: So I think such a so so mad as strong

958
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: you was made you take four days in a brow.

959
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: But I'm just so so fred, I'm just comprehensive. I

960
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: want a fair criteria that accounts for all of the

961
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: things that these prospects bring to the table. And I

962
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: understand Jason's a busy man. He's got two kids. He

963
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have time to grade this thing out right, and

964
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: so was because you lost to me, So I support

965
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: it you, Fred, you did a great job.

966
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: Man, Thank you.

967
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be gracious. You're you're the draft what is

968
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: it your thing? The real draft guru? And I'm nothing.

969
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: I've been nothing for a year. But I just want

970
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: to make sure that we have a common standard. Yeah,

971
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: and that's what Amanda. Now we owned Amanda grayting curve,

972
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: which is is the standard.

973
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: Which I'm curious to say how Amanda did it?

974
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 6: So drive to the Draft podcast. We're doing this seasons

975
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 6: right now, right, Fred, you'll come on soon. Yes again

976
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 6: this year, but basically last year, Fred one, thank you.

977
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 6: Logan was really upset about it. But the punishment was

978
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 6: that he had to bend the knee. Was n command

979
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 6: Center call you the true draft and say he is nothing?

980
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 6: And we did that on command was great.

981
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: This year. I took part in this.

982
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why.

983
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: Really, no one cares you.

984
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 6: The question is we didn't set it up last year.

985
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: So we're set it up.

986
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 6: Now, what's the what's the winner get?

987
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: I thought you want so we're talking before this.

988
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 6: It was my suggestion is that the winner gets crowned

989
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 6: the king of the Draft, and we can, like I

990
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Speaker 6: can purchase a crown with little extra budget money, We'll

991
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 6: crown them.

992
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: We'll put like, give them a set. Should leave something

993
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: in the comments, but that seems dangerous.

994
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, and then we'll bend the knee and we'll

995
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 6: bow and you're the draft king.

996
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that I guess that's.

997
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 6: What's on the line here.

998
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

999
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 6: All right, So Amanda, remind us who our rosters were.

1000
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: It's a good start and.

1001
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: We don't know that rostas okay, yeah, probably.

1002
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 7: So then going through the draft, Fred's picks were Abdul Carter, Ashton,

1003
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 7: gent T Tyler, Warren, Kobe Bryant, and Elick am Manor.

1004
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: Correctly, that's really good.

1005
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 7: So then Logan's picks were cam Ward Colson, Lovelin, Derek Morman,

1006
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 7: love that, David Walker, that Norman and Terrence Ferguson.

1007
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: You have a couple of guys hurting.

1008
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the two d tackles got hurt.

1009
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, so that's tough, man.

1010
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: But what was Jason. I'm curiouscause Jason went crazy.

1011
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1012
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, So Jason's were Travis Hunter, Mike Green, Trayvon Henderson,

1013
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 7: Tedz Johnson, Cam Scattaboo, and Chris Paul.

1014
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: Chris Paul didn't get on the field.

1015
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: He didn't.

1016
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: But that was like you two guys, that three guys

1017
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 3: probably got injured, right to Yeah, two guys.

1018
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: Scatterca she was handed for greatness.

1019
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot that Jacksonville team changed when they played

1020
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: well now, yeah, it was they was trying to do

1021
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: too much with hunted to the offense. Yeah yeah, So

1022
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: who won? No, grading had the points? Yeah, give us

1023
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: some points? Yeah, like, come on, I'm out about winning.

1024
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 7: So I I followed the point criteria that Jason gave

1025
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 7: me very strictly, very strictly. So nobody, nobody know next

1026
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 7: points anywhere, but I did follow it. So there is

1027
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 7: a tie for second and third.

1028
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: Actually, okay, so it was not.

1029
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 7: So with fourteen points. It was Jason and Logan. Welth

1030
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 7: of you guys had fourteen points total? With everybody?

1031
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: How many points did you have?

1032
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: Fred than.

1033
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 7: He had twenty two points?

1034
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so.

1035
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: What were they?

1036
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: What were the credits here? Fred puts your mica up.

1037
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: He real quick.

1038
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: So what were the credit I think.

1039
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 6: The criteria is how well they played, like how they

1040
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 6: fin throw out the year, throughout the year. So like

1041
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 6: Tyler Warren, he's been saying it though alone his guys

1042
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 6: a fine player.

1043
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: But he didn't he didn't do with Tyler to say,

1044
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: somebody you got hold up one second? So married off, Well,

1045
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: right here we go.

1046
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: See, let's go, let's go do this.

1047
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1048
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: Here we go.

1049
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: Logan's going to try and by points.

1050
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: Even this is what he knows.

1051
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna try five points.

1052
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 7: I just want to know what the So the criteria

1053
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 7: for the points was looking at at the regular season,

1054
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 7: at the end of the season, regular season.

1055
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: What what they're standing was.

1056
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: Was that sounds that sound was.

1057
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm chilling my end.

1058
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 6: I'm like herving, Look, yeah, two guys get hurt, Logan,

1059
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 6: But so In said I I guys getting hurt.

1060
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: We have no chance.

1061
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: I just want to hear what the can we hear

1062
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: the command? She all the time a lot? Why why

1063
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: are you trying to yell that, Amanda?

1064
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: Don't yell the players always getting hurt?

1065
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 7: Though, the point system that I was looking at was

1066
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 7: the end of points. So basically, what their ranking was

1067
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 7: at the end of the regular season. The amount of

1068
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 7: points that they got was based on if they were

1069
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 7: in the top ten, top fifteen, top twenty.

1070
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 3: Top thirty two position.

1071
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, so based on where they ranked after the end

1072
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 7: of the season was where I put the points.

1073
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: I believe you, Amanda. I think I think this could clean.

1074
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: I think is smart. I think it's just great. Great,

1075
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 2: And so who won rookie the year? Was it shuck

1076
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: this year?

1077
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: Yes? And this is a good grading system.

1078
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 6: And the reason I'm saying that is because this draft,

1079
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 6: this draft that we do is called the guaranteed ballers.

1080
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, they're kind of good dealers.

1081
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: It's guaranteed.

1082
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 6: So if you finish in the top five of a position.

1083
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: Like, okay, this, I agree, this is good. I like

1084
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: the metric.

1085
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 3: He's talking to a future GM.

1086
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: I will say this about you though, right, if you

1087
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: look at the people that we picked last year for

1088
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: this year, I think it switches who wins. So like,

1089
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: the one year cycle is tough. I think also because

1090
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: again you you won last year because of the tight

1091
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: end from Las Vegas brought Bower and he's hurt this year, right, yeah,

1092
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: and so not successful this year and the guys that.

1093
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: I no, no, no, But I'm just saying it's so

1094
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: serendipity based. Right, if we're looking like long term.

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Speaker 4: Friend, we're talking about the draft class first year basically,

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Speaker 4: that's what we're.

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Speaker 2: And again, if you won a good first year, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to build up franchise. It's it's it's flawed,

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Speaker 2: like the system. I don't know the parameters that we're

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Speaker 2: doing this. Guys, I don't know what Jason, It's okay,

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Speaker 2: come down, but I'm just trying to have a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Here between you and me. I told you when I

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Speaker 3: look out of these eyes. One I trust what I

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Speaker 3: said to you.

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Speaker 2: Use analytics. I use smooth Aalytics.

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Speaker 4: And see when I do Smoothalytics, not only I'm mixing

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Speaker 4: in to play and I'm looking to say whose career

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Speaker 4: is going to be great in the future. I take

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Speaker 4: these small things like Honger, right, I take these other things.

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Speaker 2: Like traits off the field. Who is this guy?

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Speaker 3: Is he all football?

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Speaker 1: Is he not?

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Speaker 2: So you're looking at the future GM.

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Speaker 6: Check out Drive to the Draft podcast. I'll put a

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Speaker 6: link in the description where everybody, can we do one

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Speaker 6: position groups my draft slogan?

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Speaker 3: You really lead that? And then we have had come

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Speaker 3: on to release set to.

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Speaker 2: Travel to the Road to the Draft. Should be my show,

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Speaker 2: all right, it should be my show.

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Speaker 3: It should be the.

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Speaker 4: Person that picks the best players. You're in and you're out,

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Speaker 4: not number two. At what point is number two get

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Speaker 4: more pulled? And number one?

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Speaker 2: I think I'll just show up, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: they just show up. Let's wrap up the show here, okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, as always, thank you guys for watching. Please make

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Speaker 1: sure you like to starve ever get your podcast. Please

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Speaker 1: check out Drive to the Draft and thank you Jason,

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Speaker 1: thank you Amanda, and that's it. Belt the command Center

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Speaker 1: podcast was filmed at the Big Bear AI Command Center Studio.

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