WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 1: The Nuggets beat the Thunder to force a game 7, KD has an interesting take on X!

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<v Speaker 1>The volume. Come on, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us as the Denver Nuggets four sex Game seven

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<v Speaker 1>with a one nineteen one oh seven victory over a O.

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<v Speaker 2>KC. They got production from where they needed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicola Jokic was sensation to night twenty nine points, fourteen rebounds,

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<v Speaker 1>eight assists. He got twenty five points from Jamal Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three points from Christian Braun. But it was Strawford

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<v Speaker 1>off the bench that gave that was four to fourth

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<v Speaker 1>from the free throw line, in three or four from

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<v Speaker 1>the three point line, four of eight from the field.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave him fifteen big points off the bench and

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<v Speaker 1>that was the difference as they win by twelve one

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen to one oh seven. Oh Joe, we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>game seven. Game seven. I guess you can play a

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<v Speaker 1>Also joining us, we have a very special guest to

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<v Speaker 2>His nickname was the Matrix.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a four time All Star, two times All NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>The Denver Nuggets do what I thought they would.

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<v Speaker 2>Do going home.

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<v Speaker 1>They hole serve and they forced a game seven one

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen to one oh seven.

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<v Speaker 2>You got great contributions.

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<v Speaker 1>You got five guys in double figures, led by Nicola

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<v Speaker 1>Yokis twenty nine, fourteen and eight. Jamar Murray had twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five eight assists. Kristin Brown had twenty three points eleven

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<v Speaker 1>big rebounds. He had five assists. Michael Porter Jr. He

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<v Speaker 1>came to the party of the night. He didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>many shots, but he made the shots that he took.

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<v Speaker 1>He made those counts. He had ten points, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was Strawthord off the bench that gave him fifteen big points.

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<v Speaker 1>He was three or four from the three point line

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<v Speaker 1>and four to eight from the free throw Excuse me

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<v Speaker 1>from the field watching this game, matrix, What did you

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<v Speaker 1>like about what you saw from the Nuggets? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought they took control early in the first quarter, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they kind of let it slip away in the

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<v Speaker 1>second quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>They regained it in the third.

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<v Speaker 1>Quarter, and then when cruised home in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>it was tough nipping tuck, but they broke the game open.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you like about what you saw from the

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<v Speaker 1>Nuggets tonight? Championship pedigree? You got two of the best

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<v Speaker 1>closers in the game right now with a Joker and Murray. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Murray stepped up big. You know, he came up.

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<v Speaker 1>They say he was sick before the game, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think he's uh, he's special.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he don't get enough credit as he deserved. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he you gonna ask two minutes, Tom, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough team to beat man.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I like.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the fact that they're really aggressive. They shot

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two free throws tonight, so that tells me they're

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<v Speaker 1>not They weren't settling. They were trying to put pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on the OKC defense. You know, this is a very

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<v Speaker 1>good defensive team. They got guys that can offend. They

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<v Speaker 1>switch everything. They got two bigs that can protect the paint.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Jalen Williams, who's a great defender, Loudor, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a Caruso, Isaiah, Joe Wiggins, Wallace. You got guys.

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<v Speaker 1>They got about sixty seven guys that can defend the wing.

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<v Speaker 1>And they switch everything because they don't want to try

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<v Speaker 1>to they don't want to help and leave guys wide open.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought the Nuggets did a great job tonight

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<v Speaker 1>matrix of putting the ball on the floor, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ball to the rims and they drew a lot of five.

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<v Speaker 1>They shot thirty two free throw a tempts they was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven or thirty two and the thunder was only

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<v Speaker 1>ten or sixteen, and Shay Gil just shot eleven of

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<v Speaker 1>the sixteen free throws.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Jaylen Williams, he was off the night.

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<v Speaker 1>He was three or sixteen from the floor, oh four

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<v Speaker 1>from three, and he didn't get to the free throw

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<v Speaker 1>line at all. Hartenstein, He doesn't really normally get to

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<v Speaker 1>the free throw line. Lou Dort didn't get to the

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<v Speaker 1>free throw line. But when you only got three guys

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<v Speaker 1>and they take all your free all sixteen, that tells

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<v Speaker 1>me you're not nearly aggressive enough, and maybe you settle

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more for threes than you you should have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>theyin'ted somebody else stept up to night. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you look at this game, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>are a young team. You know, I think they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're growing, they're getting better as they keep playing. By man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think the excuse me of Denver just

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<v Speaker 1>just prevailed and they just man, they played smart and

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<v Speaker 1>they took care of the ball, and they needed too.

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<v Speaker 2>They had so many mistakes out their young mistakes. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's some mentality of these young teams, tams that

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<v Speaker 1>that they I loved. Okay, see, they played hard, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they played break with their hands. But I think sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they just seem like they're going meuthargically, going through the

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<v Speaker 1>motions at times, and they just they gelped that they

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<v Speaker 1>get off there. They pumped the brakes a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>when they need to be putting their foot foot on

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<v Speaker 1>the pedals and taking it to another level. They've shown

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<v Speaker 1>them signs they can do it. They're a resilient team.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the mistakes catching up with them, they turned

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<v Speaker 1>the ball all a little too much. Yeah, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not a three point shooting team. Oh till they were

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<v Speaker 1>eleven or forty. Tonight they were twenty seven and a

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<v Speaker 1>half percent. Julian Strawford, he hit more threes than any

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<v Speaker 1>player on ok SE uh and so we knew that.

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<v Speaker 1>Look the big guns they got a fire tonight, Joker

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<v Speaker 1>and and and Murray they did that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now where else can we get some production?

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<v Speaker 1>Because they needed those points because in the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>he had some big threes, he got a couple of rebounding,

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<v Speaker 1>put some footbacks. Because you look at it, uh Okac's

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<v Speaker 1>bench is better is wall. It's better than the Nuggets bench.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they needed some production off that bench, and

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<v Speaker 1>Julius Strauther gave that to them. Fifteen points, a career

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<v Speaker 1>playoff high three or four from the three point line.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Christian Brown was Family Fabulous Tonight, twenty three points,

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<v Speaker 1>Ojo eleven of rebounds, five or Sais three steals, He

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<v Speaker 1>was three or six from the three point line.

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<v Speaker 2>He had more points than Jay Dubb.

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<v Speaker 1>He had more rebounds than Hartenstein, more steals than Carusso's,

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<v Speaker 1>and more may threes than Shape. He's the youngest player

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<v Speaker 1>in franchise history with a twenty ten five and three

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<v Speaker 1>game in playoff. In a playoff game, Jamal Murray has

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five points in playoff games.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal Murray has more twenty five point playoff games than

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Booker, Jaylen Brunson, Joel Embiid, Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Russell, Deack Rose, Penny Hardway, Johnson Phillips, and Bence Carter.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't look at we don't look at Jamal like

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<v Speaker 1>that because he's never been on the All the NBA team,

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<v Speaker 1>he's never been an All Star. But as metrics, as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, he can ball and the moment, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>big He's like James Worthy. He's a big game player.

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<v Speaker 1>The bigger the game, the better he played. He knew

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<v Speaker 1>his backup with his back was against the wall. If

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<v Speaker 1>I don't play well. The series is over in six games.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it back to OKC, and let's see who

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<v Speaker 1>can have the pressure more better we or them. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the way they played tonight. I love the championship medal.

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<v Speaker 1>As Matrix mentioned, the Nuggets showed. What did you like

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<v Speaker 1>about what you saw from the Nuggets?

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<v Speaker 2>So Jo?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously they played well. They suffocated. They suffocated.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna say it. I feel they suffocated. The

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<v Speaker 3>goddamn the thunder. It was one on four. I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna call it like that. It was one on five actually,

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<v Speaker 3>because Shay was the only one that showed up to night,

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<v Speaker 3>even though he had twenty points, but he only had

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<v Speaker 3>two assists and he had four turnovers. But Joker doing

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<v Speaker 3>what he does, and god damn Jamal Murray with twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five at night. Listen, they set the tone. You expect

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<v Speaker 3>a game like this. You want to be able. A

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<v Speaker 3>young team like that, that can, that's up and down

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<v Speaker 3>the floor. They played the defense. You want to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to close out a game like this. You want

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to But obviously the Nuggets having that

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<v Speaker 3>championship pedigree and and being that they've been in.

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<v Speaker 4>This position before they were able to pull this game off.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that Shae, the fact that it was the

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<v Speaker 3>game of this this much importance, and Shae was the

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<v Speaker 3>only one to show up the night, and nobody else did.

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<v Speaker 3>Lou Dort, Hartenstein, Javin Williams. They played, They played bad.

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<v Speaker 3>They played bad, and I don't know if if maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they might have been tired. They may, they may want

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<v Speaker 3>to get the game seven and then just pull a

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<v Speaker 3>pull a rabbit, pull up a rabbit out that had

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<v Speaker 3>a seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Naw, you can't chance that, o Jo, because you a

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<v Speaker 1>road ankle, you an elbow, you you you're a bad play,

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<v Speaker 1>you a push, you lose your composure, You one play

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<v Speaker 1>away from being out of this thing. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>never you never put off tomorrow what you can get

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<v Speaker 1>done today. Now why I get that, you know in

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<v Speaker 1>front of our home crowd, but your home crowd doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee you a win.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's why I would be out look.

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<v Speaker 1>And plus the Nuggets have been in game seven, They've

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<v Speaker 1>been here, they done that, They're battle tested, they got

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<v Speaker 1>a three time league MVP, and they got one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best big game finishers in Jamal Murray in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wouldn't want to test that. I thought Chest

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<v Speaker 1>played really good today. He was eight or fourteen. He

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<v Speaker 1>had eleven rebounds. But Jaylen Williams, who's their second best player,

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<v Speaker 1>did not have his best game. He had six points

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<v Speaker 1>with sixteen shots, So Joe, he was all four from

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<v Speaker 1>the three, and he didn't get to the free throw line.

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<v Speaker 1>So that tells me he was settling. He wasn't nearly

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive as he needed to be because he can put

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<v Speaker 1>the ball on the floor, and he settled for those

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<v Speaker 1>three point shots, which the Nuggets would gladly accept. Sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>free throws three attempts. That's not from the basketball. They

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<v Speaker 1>need to be somewhere between twenty five and thirty free

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<v Speaker 1>throw attempts and keep that the three point attempts somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>like if you get to thirty, you can live with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You can live with that. But they got the forty

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<v Speaker 1>and they only made eleven. They weren't nearly aggressive enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that that that that's that that was

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<v Speaker 1>a problem for them tonight. But the Nuggets with plenty

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<v Speaker 1>plenty aggressive with thirty three thirty two free throw a tempts.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at this game, so projecting matrix going to a

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<v Speaker 1>game seven, What do you think, OKAYC need to do

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the Nuggets from coming into their building in

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<v Speaker 1>a game seven and walking out there going to the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Conference finals?

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<v Speaker 2>Who who? What Dad say? Show up?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's uh, it's it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>simple to them, and that's not gonna be simple. But

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<v Speaker 1>you need your yo yo. Your role players play batter

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<v Speaker 1>at home. So this is that's gonna be that hospital

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<v Speaker 1>home court advantage?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right now?

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<v Speaker 1>This postseason, so it's been isn't paying off, but both

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<v Speaker 1>teams have won them both on both their home courts.

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<v Speaker 1>So h oh, listen that seven game, man, you just

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't know. Man, you got you throwing them

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air and like, listen, let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>the war. You know you got come, you gotta come

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<v Speaker 1>to fight. You know, you just don't know. Because Lebron's

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<v Speaker 1>been been struggling the last three games, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, two or three games? Yeah, and shoot he

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<v Speaker 1>found this shot shot to night. So look, Gordon's has

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<v Speaker 1>been playing great. He didn't have a great eight knight.

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<v Speaker 1>He'site five points. I think what is called how many

0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.679
<v Speaker 1>points or Gordon scored. He had five points on two

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<v Speaker 1>or seven. But did I see him? Did you think

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<v Speaker 1>you looked like he grabbed his hamstring like that that

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<v Speaker 1>left hand. Me started bothering him because he was doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he was grabbing a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, yeah, left one, the left, the left side.

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<v Speaker 1>Dams facing nothing to play with if he hurt. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's I don't want that. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see no injuries in the postseason. But man, that

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<v Speaker 1>that can that can change the dynamic of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Certain teams know he's a big part to their team

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<v Speaker 1>and what he's done for this uh, for the postseason

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<v Speaker 1>and helped to win the championship two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's gonna be interesting to see who shows up.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, It's like, ain't no more schemes, ain't no more

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<v Speaker 1>drawn up this and that?

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<v Speaker 2>It does. They know, they know when they go, they

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<v Speaker 2>know when to fight, going to the bath.

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<v Speaker 1>They know.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's let's come a war, baby. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the Nuggets. I thought the Nuggets. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the Nuggets bench. They got twenty seven points from the

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<v Speaker 1>bench to offset the thirty points because normally the thunder

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<v Speaker 1>bench blows the Nuggets bench away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tonight it was only a plus three.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you could live with that because the Nuggets are

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<v Speaker 1>only gonna play like three guys off the bench. Russ,

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<v Speaker 1>Watson and Strawther those are the only two. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>only three guys that's gonna get off the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, see they're gonna play five guys coming off the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they do. That's what they normally do.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Tonight they played a few more, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>in mop up duty, so I don't really count those.

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<v Speaker 1>But you look at guys that Wallace played twenty seven minutes,

0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Wiggans play twelve minutes, Caruso played twenty seven minutes, and

0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Jay Williams played fourteen minutes. So that's one two three four.

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<v Speaker 1>So they played nine guys. Sometimes occasionally they'll play ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually they played well you can look at they play

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<v Speaker 1>ten because Isaiah Joe played eight minutes. All the other

0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.800
<v Speaker 1>guys played one minutes. That was mop up duty. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're normally gonna run nine to ten guys

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<v Speaker 1>at you O Joe, And that's where they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of their damage because they got guys

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<v Speaker 1>that can go get buckets against your second unit. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at Caruso, you look at Carson Wallace, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at a Wiggins and Isaiah Joe. Those guys can score.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's normally the deciding factor is that when

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<v Speaker 1>they take their starters out, okay, see takes their starters out,

0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the second unit can get some distance or they can

0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.600
<v Speaker 1>claw back if they're behind, they can claw back some

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<v Speaker 1>of the some of the dig into the lead that

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<v Speaker 1>you have. But I thought the Nuggets bench played extremely

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<v Speaker 1>well tonight. I think coach Adaman is gonna be very

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<v Speaker 1>pleased with the performance that he got. You know, Jamal

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<v Speaker 1>Murray got a little careless with the basketball late in.

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<v Speaker 2>The ball game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he had like two or three consecutive turnovers

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<v Speaker 1>and got in the game a little bit more interesting

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<v Speaker 1>than probably what it should have been late.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love the way they.

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<v Speaker 1>Regathered themselves and it was able to close this game

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<v Speaker 1>out by twelve. So we have a game seven in

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<v Speaker 1>the Western Conference Semmifinals the Denver Nuggets about the score

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<v Speaker 1>of one nineteen to one oh seven over the OKC

0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.800
<v Speaker 1>thunder forced the game seven, and that game will be

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday and we'll break be right here to you.

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<v Speaker 1>The Nuggets will play in Game seven for the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>time in the Yokic era. Sunday would be their first

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<v Speaker 1>Game seven on the road. They had a road game

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<v Speaker 1>during the Bubble, but that doesn't count because everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. Oh Joe, who you like? Oh Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>who you like? In this Game seven, you're taking the Thunder.

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<v Speaker 1>You're taking the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, the Nuggets have already been there before. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to see Shae winn it. I want to see the

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<v Speaker 3>MVP get into it. I think the difference in this

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<v Speaker 3>game is gonna have to be the bench. They got

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<v Speaker 3>to be the bench. The goddamn bench got to show up.

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<v Speaker 3>Shae ConA do what he does. Jay and William shit,

0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.040
<v Speaker 3>they gonna do what they do. I think the bench

0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.520
<v Speaker 3>is gonna be the difference. They have no choice. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Game seven for one, and I'm giving the ad to

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<v Speaker 3>the Thunder because they're gonna be at home.

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<v Speaker 4>They're gonna be at home, So I got damn. If

0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:02.680
<v Speaker 4>you want to put a little money on it, let.

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<v Speaker 2>Me know, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you it was concerning to me because I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Aaron Gordon grabbing that hamstring, and that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>good sign. And I understand they got they don't play again,

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<v Speaker 1>oh Joe until Sunday. If that hamster, hopefully it would

0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.080
<v Speaker 1>like a little dehydration and it's just grabbing on it.

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<v Speaker 1>It just spasoming it up. It's not a strain of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's just hope hope for that. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pray for the best. Yeah, that's all that's

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<v Speaker 1>all we can do at this point in time now.

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<v Speaker 1>But they got their work cut out for him. If if, if,

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<v Speaker 1>if Gordon was one hundred percent healthy and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see him grab that ham string, I probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>went with the Nuggets. Wait playing it And it doesn't matter, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I like I like your kitchen and Murray to pull

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<v Speaker 1>this thing out. If all I want to do is

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<v Speaker 1>get the lead, See I would to get I want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep your crowd out of the game.

0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.520
<v Speaker 2>And make sure you know this. The longer I can.

0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Keep your crowd out of the game, the better my

0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.040
<v Speaker 1>chances are because the home team's gonna feed off that energy.

0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But I ain't gonna give you nothing to cheer about.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna come I jump out on your ten nothing

0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.399
<v Speaker 1>makes you call the time out. You hit a bucket,

0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.280
<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna go on another front. And so we're

0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep the crowd on the hands were gonna We're

0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna have the crowd waiting for you to give them

0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:09.920
<v Speaker 1>something to cheer about.

0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.520
<v Speaker 2>But that moment is never gonna come. Go ahead, Matrix.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, c is one of the most loudest arenas I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever played in. It's gonna be rocking in there, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. I'm excited for it. You know what

0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I've been in that arena and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>hostile environment in there, and I'm telling you it's gonna

0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.920
<v Speaker 1>be off the chain. I think, Okay, she gonna flow

0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it out for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, see tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Majure's your former team. Wasn't the NBA draft lardest.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like a tough decision who they'll take.

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<v Speaker 1>But now some NBA executives are reportedly skeptical that Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>Flag will develop will uh whether or not he'll develop

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<v Speaker 1>into a superstar. According to Howard Back of The Ringer,

0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.200
<v Speaker 1>one anonymous eight exact said that while Flag have a

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<v Speaker 1>high chance of becoming an All Star. He isn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the same class as other recent number one overall picks

0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.760
<v Speaker 1>such as Victor and Miyama and Zion Williamson in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of being a can't miss generational prospect. Another executive suggested

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<v Speaker 1>Flag may be a very good player, but not a star,

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<v Speaker 1>while the third said Flag does have superstar potential, but

0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.879
<v Speaker 1>they aren't sure he'll be a future MVP candidate. I

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<v Speaker 1>think those are all the guys that want the Mavericks

0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:33.400
<v Speaker 1>to trade Cooper Flag to him. Listen, I mean, metrics

0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:35.520
<v Speaker 1>haven't played this game for as long as you haven't been,

0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and seeing some of the other great players that played.

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<v Speaker 2>This game, what do you think the ceiling is for

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag Man?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I don't know what the ceiling is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think he's so talented and so skilled right

0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.440
<v Speaker 1>now and the year he had in Duke. I mean,

0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.240
<v Speaker 1>listen to Scott's limit for the young man. I think

0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:52.639
<v Speaker 1>as long as he come in, put the work in,

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:54.879
<v Speaker 1>and we're singing samples of what he can do when

0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.640
<v Speaker 1>he plays against the USA basketball team last year, US said, yep,

0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:01.399
<v Speaker 1>so the work is there now that it's gonna be

0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a different test now having to go against these go

0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.960
<v Speaker 1>against these players, not in night out, but I mean, uh,

0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.760
<v Speaker 1>if he comes to the Mavericks and we Mavericks draft

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.160
<v Speaker 1>him number one, I think he come into a great

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:13.600
<v Speaker 1>organization and a great situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.560
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be the the number one. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>the faith no, no, not the not the focal poet.

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And he got you got some you got some great

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.359
<v Speaker 1>veteran leaders on that team. That's gonna help him, and

0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.280
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be an easier transition when you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times people be uh, A lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>good teams don't ever get the first pick.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams, you know that's because you're a lot of reteam.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't mean you're a bad team. He just had a

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<v Speaker 1>bad correct that bad season. Things didn't fall your way.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of times, a lot of good some

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<v Speaker 1>good players come into teams that are are bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.280
<v Speaker 1>You come into a situation where they want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be the guy immediately, and sometimes that doesn't work out

0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:50.200
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of guys. You know what I'm saying,

0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 1>it's that much pressure, it's harder. There's too much everything

0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:55.880
<v Speaker 1>going on to me moving parts. But he got a

0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 1>good chance to go into a good organization. Good coach,

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Jay Kidd, my guy, you know what I'm saying, And

0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 1>uh man playing with Anthony Davis, Kyrie Klay Thompson and

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<v Speaker 1>a young young group of guys as talented and the

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<v Speaker 1>ain't hungry. So I mean I think, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as we sit here and talk about all these teams

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, a lot of a lot of teams are

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<v Speaker 1>either one player or one and a half player away.

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<v Speaker 2>From going to the finals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this every year all the time, that that

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.320
<v Speaker 1>that that the parody is so close during down the

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.480
<v Speaker 1>league that you know what I'm saying, all it take

0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.240
<v Speaker 1>is to get you get getting hurt at the right time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, O Joe, what do you think Cooper flag ceiling is?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's a lot of execs says Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be a good player, but not a superstar. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he'd be good, but he's not. He's not Zion,

0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.240
<v Speaker 1>he's not Victor winbin Yama out. We don't see him

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 1>as a as this generational talent like can't miss and

0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:47.399
<v Speaker 1>another guys like well, I don't see him as an

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:48.320
<v Speaker 1>MVP candidate.

0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:49.960
<v Speaker 2>There have been a lot of great players that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>win the m v P.

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<v Speaker 3>H Well, hell, they said the same thing about Joker.

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<v Speaker 3>You see where he went, right, Yeah, he probably said

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.840
<v Speaker 3>the same thing about him. But obviously you watch Cooper Flag,

0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 3>he's looking what he's done Duke right, and you watch

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<v Speaker 3>him play against the elite talent at the college level.

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:06.879
<v Speaker 3>But then you also watch what he was able to

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<v Speaker 3>do against the USA basketball team before they prepared for

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<v Speaker 3>the Olympics, and you understand he has all the tools

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.680
<v Speaker 3>in the toolbox. He's someone that works hard. And obviously

0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:17.560
<v Speaker 3>him going to Dallas and not having to be the

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<v Speaker 3>face and just being a part of that team and

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<v Speaker 3>being able to work on his game and evolve his

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<v Speaker 3>game to a point where he actually can become a superstar.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how many times do you have a player

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<v Speaker 3>that's a generational talent and comes out and as Wimbayama

0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.719
<v Speaker 3>or Zion Wims Williamson. Those are special talents that come

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<v Speaker 3>around every so often. Everyone else that becomes elite or

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.639
<v Speaker 3>NBP caliber, they have to work at it, right, we

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:43.679
<v Speaker 3>have to give him an opportunity to work on this

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 3>game because everybody doesn't just come out in Nordy be

0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 3>all right, a chosen one.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only so many Lebrons. Yeah, just because I think

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is in major correct me from wrong. A

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of times the lit till we know this is like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh he number one, he transcended, he generational, he's franchise altering.

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<v Speaker 2>No that somebody's got to go number one.

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just because you go number one, that doesn't mean

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be Kareem or Magic or Lebron or one

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>of these other historically great players that has been selected

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<v Speaker 1>number one. And so I think that that that needs

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to be That needs to be the thought process. People

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>think just because you go number one, oh he's about

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.400
<v Speaker 1>to be Peyton Manny, Oh he about to be John Elway. No,

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>that's not necessarily true. Somebody has to go number one.

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 1>And maybe just because he went number one, that doesn't

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>mean he's gonna be franchise altering it.

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<v Speaker 2>Could he could?

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<v Speaker 1>He could, because look, we can say that there have

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 1>been plenty of guys that they had late the tag

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 1>can't miss and they missed, And there have been some

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:45.240
<v Speaker 1>guys that're like, damn, I didn't see that, Because if

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you saw that, like you said, O, Joe, if everybody

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 1>would have thought Yoki was gonna to be what he

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.400
<v Speaker 1>turned out, he wouldn't have been in the second round.

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>He'd been a number one pick of the draft, and

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 1>because he wasn't, that just goes to show you it's

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you never know what a guy has in here here.

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 2>You never know. You can look at it and say, oh, man,

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 2>that Joe was sixteen.

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.640
<v Speaker 1>He can jump out the gym, he can shoot the three,

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>he can get to the mini, whatever the case may be.

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>But what does he have in here? How much does

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 2>it mean to it?

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Because some guys it means more to others, and they're

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 1>willing to work a little harder in order to achieve it.

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Some guys that have come natural to Matrix and they

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>don't work nearly as hard. And you're like, man, I

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>sure wish I had that guy's talent. With his talent

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 1>and my work, effic hell, I could have been this.

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>What do you what do you think? What do you think?

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Matrix man? Listen, y'all, y'all hitting on a lot of

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of points. Man, I think

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest things I'm I'm a firm believer

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.719
<v Speaker 1>in is in order to be selful, you got a sacrifice.

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>How much do you want to sacrifice to get to

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>that position? To get that nutt level? I think he has,

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, he has all potential. One of the

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 1>things you didn't realize. I guess doing the history and

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody's talking about he gonna be the if. When it happens,

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 1>he will be the first a white boy to actually

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>go number one in the draft in a long time.

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Think about that, Yeah, had Bill, Yeah, most of all

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>the all the white players in the league now Europe

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>or black player. Yeah, and that's not saying American all

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>of them. He's the first American. Uh yeah, Ernican boy

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna be going number one the draft. That's tough, you

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Yeah, Gallinari, Gallinari with number one?

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Did he go number one? Yeah he did.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they did. You rock Toronto. Yeah, But that's

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot man saying a lot. But man, he's taught.

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Man. I wish him the best, man.

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I think he has a tremorous upside to the It's

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna be exciting to watch.

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah from Indiana.

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Who Yeah, the last the last American born white player

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>to go number one. Overall was Kent Benson?

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 2>What year was that?

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he's the one that got in the fight

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>with Kareem and Kareem broke he elbowed Kareem and Kareem

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>turned around the points to be the face he broke

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>his nose. Yeah, what year was that though? Forty five

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 1>years ago? Nineteen seventy seven. Yes, so what I'm saying,

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>because what was walking in seventy seventies seventies six? Yeah,

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>it was five seventy six, walking back in seventy five,

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>seventy six, it.

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 4>Was seventy five.

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I was at that draft.

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's he wasn't he born yet, but okay,

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>he was born. Yeah, so it's walk was seventy was

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the seventy four draft. Yeah, that's special, man, But uh yeah,

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot. Yeah, that's that's been that's a long

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>time time man. Listen, I think he's special though I

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 1>wished him all of up.

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I hope I hope it. I hope he's able to

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.719
<v Speaker 1>excel and do everything he wants and put it. I

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>heard he got great work at he's a great Bundy.

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I ain't so I heard I heard his special kid.

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I ain't met him yeah, I heard great things about

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>him already, and I was gonna see him.

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm up here.

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I went to the combine yesterday, so yeah, I ain't

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>seen him yet, so I was hoping to run into him.

0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I ain't bumping to him. So, uh yeah, Ton the

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 1>corner metrics, you was at the right team. It was

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Andre Barnyanni. Yeah, that was number one overall in two

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six to Toronto. You had the right team.

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>But I knew. I was like, no, it was I

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>got it, got it confused, but it was. It was

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Barnyanni in two thousand and six. I play with Andre

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 1>what but he was foreign born? Where we're talking an

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>American born player. Hell, there hadn't been a whole lot

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>of them. I mean you gotta go. I mean, you

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>go back to Walton seventy four. You got Ken Bison

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.919
<v Speaker 1>in seventy six. So it's not like it's you know,

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not been a it's not been a whole lot

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>of American born, white players that's been selected number one overall.

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>But if it be a huge accomplishment for Cooper Flag,

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he'd be very excited. His family, his town,

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>his hometown, uh state would be very excited to see, uh, finally,

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>finally an.

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.239
<v Speaker 2>American born white player be selected number one.

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>All it's uh, it's interesting to see because to see

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the way he plays O Joe because of the side

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 1>they had, what is six saxty sixty nine.

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 2>He can handle the ball because he led, He led.

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Duke and everything, scoring, rebound, assists, block shots, steals, so

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it shows that he's well rounded. He could do it.

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>He could do a lot. He could do it basically everything,

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>a little everything. And but the difference is he was

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>a coming into Duke's one thing, coming into the NBA

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>where there guys just to skill just as talk can

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>jump just as how I can run just as fast

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and shoot just as good can play defense, just as

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>good can do everything you do just as good. That's

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>what'st That's what you when you start getting the levels.

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>They say, Okay, you go to JV and then you

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>go to high school, and then you go to college,

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>or you go to the G League or whatever the

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>case may be. But once you get to the pros

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>which is NBA, NFL, MLB, whatever the case, whatever sport

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that you play, yeah, you understand, like there's levels to this.

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>This is this and people feed. This is what I

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>tell that said, these grown men, this is how they

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>feed their family. This is how kids go to private school.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>This is how college tuitions get paid. This is how

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>to make sure the wife didn't go significant other than

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>nothing to have to work. This is how mom or

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>grandma get the house. Bro, guys are not gonna allow

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you to take food up their table now they Hey,

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>they bringing it, because that's how that's how I look.

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you guys frosted one, but I

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>looked at Oh, you try to take you try to

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>take my kids out of school. You try to get

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>my grandma to have to go back to do a

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>little odds and then jobs.

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, bro, that ain't gonna happen.

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Hey, you know that's our old school mentality though, that's

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>all They ain't the new generation mentality.

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Really, they don't think like that.

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, But that's that's that's how, that's

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>our train of thought, because you know that we were

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>survivors back then.

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 2>These now it's a big entitlement now these days.

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>But some of these kids, there are some special ones

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>that truly believe in putting the work in.

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I think he's one of those guys.

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I think, Uh, listen, a lot of us, now we

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>know what the gang gave us, and the opportunity to

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>get for us ourselves, our families and our friends, and.

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Everybody will be able to truly bless.

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes a lot of people take these things for

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>granted and it can be over just as fast as

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>they can.

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this because we've been hearing a

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot about this. Uh Nico Hasson trades

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Luka Doncic. Now that the ratings goes Hey, why he's

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>in l a And now he trades Luca and all

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden and the number two pick goes to Utah,

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>which means the number one pick goes to the Dallas Mavericks.

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you believe the draft is rigged? The draft lot

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>of is rigged?

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't.

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>It's just sometimes things work out in their favorite man.

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, if you look at it, if

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it was rigged. And why are teams thanking purposely to

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>try to get the number one pick? Most of the

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>teams are tank What team has ever tanked purposely tanked

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and got one number one pick? Can you do the

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>try on that true, the team is to be very

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>interesting because the team that started taking they they picked

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it way down.

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>They gonna be need to tank again, you know what

0:30:59.000 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>So when you start thinking about all that stuff, man, listen,

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>everybody gonna always have a speculation. Somebody always have something

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>to say, whether it's right or wrong. Yeah, you know what,

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what the face, Well, the conspiracy theory is

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna always exist, man, come on, it started the first

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>year that it actually started. Guy, the first year they

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 1>had the lottery to eighty five and the Knicks ended

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>up getting Patrick Uit. So that started. They're like, hold on,

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>it's of New York. The first year they got the lottery,

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you didn't get hit the Patrick ewit. Yeah, so that

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it started. So every since then they're like, hold on,

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you mean to tell me a guy that grew up

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>one hour away from Cleveland and he's coming out and

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he ended up to the Cavs Lebron.

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, listen, it was such a convenience. It's

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 3>such an odd convenience too. No shine to where it

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 3>almost seems like, even though if you're conspiracy theorist and all,

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 3>it just seems like it was rigged or done on

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 3>purpose to to satisfy and not just the MAVs were

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 3>going tozation, but the fans as well, and to get

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Nico Nico Harrison off the goddamn hook.

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 4>That's just what feels like. Just how what are the

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 4>odds on? Think about it?

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Though they had the fourth, they had the fourth longest

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>odds to get the number one overall pick. I think

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Dereck Rose was like one for Chicago, get another one.

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Chicago got Deck Rose. We didn't want to talk about that,

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>but go ahead, go ahead, fish point.

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I was just saying just the fact that it all

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 3>happened that way and it was perfect. It seemed perfectly orchestrated.

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 3>You let you let Luca go, and you have nothing.

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's upset. Nico Harrison keeps on talking about it, making

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 3>everybody even more upset.

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 4>And now to ease.

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's mind and ease the tension, damn now you got

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 3>the number one pick two. I don't know, it just

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 3>seems the odds, If the dods are that good, we

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 3>need to go play the goddamn lotto.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Let me ask you this matrix, what was

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>your reaction when you found that your team had traded

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Luca to the Lakers. Lakers, listen, I hang a lot

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>to you. When we saw it, we thought it was

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a hoax. We thought everybody did. We thought it was

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>a fake. It was some bullshit, be honest. But you

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>ain't Yeah, like nah, I ain't, no way it happened.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>They don't even sound real.

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I was getting text messages, I was getting it started

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>hitting the Sports Center and it was like everything. I

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, ho ho, this was for real. I was like, yo,

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>what happened? But man, listen, it's a business man. You

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>know when you when you ever sit on the other

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>side of the uh on all the side of the

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>business side, not the sporting side, just on the on

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the on the massak side. I'm the owner. I've been

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the owner for sports now for seven years now.

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I've been in that space. It's a different mindset. It's

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>a business. At the end of the day. People don't

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>really truly understand the dynamics of what owners doing.

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Don't do.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>All they see is what the fans do. I mean,

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>what the what what the sport is on the I

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>mean what things that go on the floor and what

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>people get paid. There's a lot of moving parts behind

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the scene that go on to run these teams and

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>organizations and stuff. So when it's so many moving parts on,

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I just say, look, man, it's it's a business. Man.

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>It things happen, you know what I'm saying that that's

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. At the end of the day,

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.399
<v Speaker 1>we can signed contracts. We was all athletes at one point,

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>but we have no controller. Some of us happened control

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>to say so at times predicated on the situations and

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>who you are and what you did on that court.

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.479
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, if somebody wants

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to trade you, they got direct to trade you, you

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>know what, right, Like come on now, like I'm not

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying all this, but they do have an owner.

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 2>You sign a contract. That owner controls your rights and

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>everything you do.

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>But you you he paid your salary, dude, he could

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>he writes in checks for you so you can go

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>cash and little lights out that we do understand that

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 1>it's a business and it's it's not a lot of

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:44.839
<v Speaker 1>things don't go to play as plannings you want.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes Listen, I was traded what twice? Twice? You know?

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And but I knew I was going, I knew I

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>had control over where I was going and dictated all

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>that stuff.

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I knew exactly what was happening and how it happened.

0:34:59.000 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 2>But like saying to, I have some leeway.

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 1>So at least if you are gonna get a certain

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:06.959
<v Speaker 1>a certain caliber player, you do have some say someone

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>know what's going on, and uh, you know it is

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>what it is, it's part of it.

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but see you had you had some knowledge. Luca

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 2>had no knowledge of it.

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, this thing, this thing was had it had

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>to be hush hushed because we didn't hear anything about it.

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Luca. Lookah yeah, I mean listen.

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why I hurt him so much,

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.760
<v Speaker 1>because he I think he had all intents and purpose

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>to spend his entire careerge Houston. And you think a

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>guy that's been the excuse me, Dallas. I think when

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>you make five consecutive of all the NBA teams, you

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>just took a team to the finals, You're like, you

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm here.

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I ain't going nowhere as long as I want to

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 2>be here.

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And plus the fact we had never seen someone his age,

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>this talented leave without requesting to leave. Kareem left because

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to leave. Lebron left because he wanted to leave.

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Shaq left. But we've never seen a guy this young,

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>this accomplished leave and had no idea that it was

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>going on, that they were going to move him. And

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what hurting the most. And people always

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>have this idea. You know, people love spending other people's money. Man,

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't three hundred and forty five million dollars. It

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 1>ain't your money, ain't nothing, but the order looking at it, like,

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 1>hold on three forty five for Luca, I'm gonna probably

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>have to.

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Break bread with Kyrie. Ad gonna want up some money.

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>And so they're looking at the business aspect of it,

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 1>and like you know, I know they were talking one time,

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.720
<v Speaker 1>but potentially moving it the Las Vegas.

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's gonna happen.

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the NBA want their own team in Las

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Vegas and possibly another team in Seattle, considering how much

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>money is being paid for NBA franchises.

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 2>But I think that's what I think. Oh Chore, let

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 2>me ask you this. Do you think.

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>The vitriol, the outrage that the fan base and Dallas

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>showed towards NKO and the Dallas organization.

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 2>You think it was warranted?

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, absolutely, based on what Luca's been able to do

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 3>on the court, what he's done for them, especially the

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 3>previous year taking them to the NBA Finals, It's goddamn warranted.

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely warranted for a generational talent like that. I'm

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 3>not sure what the issue is. I understand they might

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 3>have been some things off the court that might have

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 3>rubbed management long term and wanted to invest that kind

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 3>of money in him, But when it comes to what

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 3>he does on the court and understanding what he meant

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 3>to not just the fans of Dallas, but what he meant.

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 4>To that organization, I just don't.

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 2>I just don't.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't see myself doing it if I'm in their position,

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 3>I just don't.

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 2>How do you make you you're the general manager?

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, Luca in line to get a five year,

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and forty five million dollar contract. Now, I

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you talk to anybody in the building,

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much time do you live in Dallas?

0:37:58.200 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Where do you live? Phoenix is down, I'm in Dallas,

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm in both, Okay, So I don't know how how

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.760
<v Speaker 1>close you are the people in the building.

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Huh huh.

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 3>You said, I'm in both, but every boy got money, So.

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Keep that said. I don't I don't, I don't know.

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how close you are the people in

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the building or what do you heard? You know, there

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of things about conditioning, and then you know, uh,

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>he likes you know, he likes hookah and whatever the

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>case may be.

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, he's still giving

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 2>you those numbers.

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>So you're the general manager in Dallas and Luca's on

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:32.720
<v Speaker 1>your team.

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>How do you head of this situation? You trade me?

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>You know what that's not It's not as easy as

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.359
<v Speaker 1>you say that. You asked me a question if I'm

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a gym. It's got so many other movie parts that

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>go along with it.

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Though. So when you I was so I would I

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.879
<v Speaker 2>could say this, I was. You gave me the GM hat.

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm giving you the franchise player hat because I'm gonna

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>give you something that comes along with being a franchise player.

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>So you gotta so you're the franchise player on the court,

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>but you also the franchise player, your face of everything

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>in the community. And all this stuff off the court

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're doing it the right way and all the stuff.

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.240
<v Speaker 1>So I know what my my job and my duty

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>was when I signed that contract, when I said, max player,

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>when you sign that contract, there are certain obligations that

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you have to abide by and do. So I've done that.

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>So I was in that space. Now do I feel

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>like that was the same situation here?

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't. I don't.

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell you. I think a Luka was an amazing

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>kid and everything. Me being a GM, I don't. I

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's a GM call though, honestly, sometimes

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes sometimes, you know, I think that's what I'm saying.

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 1>Everybody think it's always this. I'm I'm and like I said,

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I've been on the owner, I'm on the older side.

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Now I've been the only spot. A lot of a

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of sisiness and everything. You know, this it's a

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>trickle down effect, you know what I'm saying. It's like

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:50.439
<v Speaker 1>everybody say, here whispers and all this just came from

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 1>this such and such. Man, listen, you're talking about a

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>multi billion dollar business. Then worst this ain't coming from somebody.

0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Somebody will opened their down mouth somewhere and said something

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it ain't a't supposed to say it or they get

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>permission to say that.

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 2>So at the end of the day, Man, Nico my guy.

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:06.919
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been knowing.

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.919
<v Speaker 1>Nico for for twenty years, man, and that's my guy.

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the day, Man, whether he

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>did what I don't know, whether he did what happened happened.

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 2>It is what it is.

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:18.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't think nobody was gonna give him any love

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>or any followers for I don't care who what he got.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>He could have got Michael Jordan back. I think everybody

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>will still be mad, you know what I'm saying. So

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, man, listen, like I said,

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:27.879
<v Speaker 1>it's a business man.

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 2>It's sad, but I get it. Man.

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I am a dollhard cubby fan man. So and and

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>players get traded all the time. Man, Sometimes some of

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>your favorite players get gone. Guess what I'm be mad.

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be mad he gone, But I'm still gonna

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 1>be that fan. I'm gonna I'm still be a fan

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of that player who got traded, you know what I'm saying.

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm still gonna be a fan of the clubs,

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>so that when I think about it from a span standpoint, yeah,

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you gonna be in your films a little bit. I

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>talked to some fans and I heard, I felt they paying.

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, I get it, you know what I'm saying.

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>But they was like, you know, I'm still a dar

0:40:57.680 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>heard master, and now I love to hear that, you.

0:40:59.280 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Know what I'm saying.

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:03.360
<v Speaker 1>When yeah, fans, that's that's the that's the true truth

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>nature of true fans when they tell you that they

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 1>love a team so much.

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Man, listen, we gonna we we we.

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Don't like it, we don't agree with it, but guess what,

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna still be here and right I would treat

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>guys so hopefully it works out for the best and

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody on both sides. Man.

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's what it is, man, you know, it's it's

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 2>it's everything.

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 1>And everybody is so sensitive about everything now, so it

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>is so it just escalated everything ten times to what

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it was.

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 2>And I get it, you know what I'm saying. Looka

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:29.800
<v Speaker 2>was special.

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>He was doing he was doing something amazing, and they

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>had it. They went to the finals last year and

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, he got traded. He got

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 1>moved and nobody knew. Like you said, nobody couldn't know

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:40.800
<v Speaker 1>about it. You know what I'm saying, because it probably

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have happened if it if it came out that

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>they were trying, it would never happen. And this is

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>what I know. Oh, Choll you know this, Yeah, majorre

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 1>you know this. Ain't no general manager making no call

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.399
<v Speaker 1>on the three hundred and forty five US that's coming

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>from ownership. He might, he might make a call to

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.720
<v Speaker 1>get a roll player or a mind have an exception.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.959
<v Speaker 2>Three hundred and forty five million. He ain't making that call.

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 1>That's when the top Hey listen, he ain't making that like, hey,

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 1>we need we need a we need a backup point

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>guard or the mid level excession exception or.

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:17.879
<v Speaker 2>What do that?

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, go ahead of that, Nico. Ye, three hundred

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 1>and forty five million. You about to get somebody? Say

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you about to get somebody seventy million of my dollars?

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh hell, hey, y'all, sery.

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Hell to the dollars? What you want to do? What?

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Hold on? Oh hold on, let me let me, let

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 2>me let me think about that. Look here bad what

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>they gain if Gona did that on the loan then

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 2>got of that trade.

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>What but but a lot of times you have to

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 1>under you understand matrix when you're in that position.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like, and oh told you when I talked about this.

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Well in the.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Football aspect of it, Roger Goodell, he takes all the

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>blowback for the owners. Rob ain't making no decision. That's

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:15.280
<v Speaker 1>them thirty two owners that pay his salary. You can't

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>get a salary, it didn't think you can't. Thank you

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna call shots on your own. If you receive a salary,

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 1>you gotta oh, you gotta take that from the bosses.

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same thing with Adam Adam Silver.

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Adam Silver worked for those thirty those thirty owners or

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>those NBA teams. The same thing as Rob Manford. He

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>works for those owners of those baseball teams. And so

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the blowback, Man, that's terrible. Roger Cadell

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 1>boo boot o Joe Brother just at the draft and

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>they're still booing.

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't I don't think people don't. Don't worry

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 5>about it. Don't worry about it. Rogers said, y'all booing

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 5>this sixty million. I got lifetime benefits and I get

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.720
<v Speaker 5>to fly private. So y'all don't keep on bing.

0:43:58.120 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't think. I don't think.

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 3>The don understand that Roger is there, represents the thirty

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 3>two owners schools that are implemented and put in place.

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 2>That's what owners.

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Roger just got to deal with the with the run

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 3>of the booze moBack, he got to deal with all us.

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 4>He ain't tripping though.

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Hey hey no, he said, we say get on that

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:30.280
<v Speaker 2>PJ right, Yeah, and Mayo.

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Arto recently claimed that Celtics match up better against the

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Knicks without Tatum in the lineup exclusively because of mindset.

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I believe a team is a reflection of his leader.

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Jason Tatum is the leader of Boston. They are incredibly

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>talented team, but they're not tough team. This is what

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant had to say. He responded on Twitter. Excuse

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>me on ed damn hot take. Artists have ruined the

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:57.359
<v Speaker 1>sport football guys, no disrespect, but y'all boys need to stand.

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Y'all laying y'all don't know what it's like to be

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>between them. Give the man a break, Give it between

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:06.479
<v Speaker 1>these lines, man, give it a break. Dudes who quit

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>football early to pursue media talking mental.

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Toughness, cut it out.

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 4>M M hey, KD taking KT taking shots.

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, k KD gonna respond. I ain't got no problem.

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I got a problem with it. I ain't got no

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:27.239
<v Speaker 1>problem with it. I like it.

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I like it.

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:30.439
<v Speaker 3>I wish more players were like that. I wish more

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 3>elite superstar players would like that and voice their opinion.

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 3>That's why that's why I like Twitter. I like X

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 3>because it gives everybody a voice. Now, it cuts it

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 3>cuts the middle man out, players being able to have

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 3>an opportunity.

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Nothing lost lost, nothing lost in translation. Okay, yeah, I

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>got something for y'all. Okay, okay, you talk about I

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 1>love people having voices, but this is my thing.

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Though.

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 1>You're a champion, right, yeah, so your mindset is gonna

0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>be totally different than somebody who wasn't the champions and

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 1>not correct. So so that's that's what you got people

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about the game and and this and that. But

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 1>how can you how can somebody really define the game?

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 2>If you got if you never want anything, and.

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Tell somebody from you telling you talking from a losing perspective,

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you know you never wanted you was an individual?

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 2>You I mean I'm not saying you was.

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of guys that was great, players that

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.319
<v Speaker 1>were great, never won.

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 2>You don't talk about it's all about me, Me, me, me,

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 2>what about you? Know what I'm saying.

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, Okay, you was great individual, but you wasn't

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 1>a great team player. You ain't excel your team to

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 1>be to be a winner. You didn't win.

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Your team was losing.

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>So so if I'm hearing you correctly, you can correct

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong. You said, unless you've been a champion,

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>how do you tell me what it takes to become

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a chance? I'm right, hm hmm. How are you gonna

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 1>have a champion mindset? You've never been a champion?

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, I have another question, okay for people that in

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 3>the media space right yes, I'm talking to Sean obviously,

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 3>with with that, with that, with what he just said,

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 3>how do you feel about people that talk about the

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 3>game of basketball, the game of football, the game of hockey,

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 3>and or or or punnits or analysts on it, or

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 3>or get their opinion or views on it, but have

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 3>never played the game?

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 4>Can you take what they could? Can you take what

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 4>they say serious if they've never done it?

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 2>So So this is my thing.

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I think they they the media is great creating these

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>narratives and hold on, they can listen. Everybody can have

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.320
<v Speaker 1>their opinion about the game. I'm not This is open

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:39.319
<v Speaker 1>it's open platform. Everybody can discuss it on every level

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:40.960
<v Speaker 1>from TV to social media to.

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you want to do, podcasts, whatever.

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>But my thing is that so when you when you

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 1>start dissecting and you really want to know the legists

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of what it really truly taste, go talk to somebody

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:50.840
<v Speaker 1>who's done it before.

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna come.

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>In your space and try to tell you how your

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 1>job and tell you how your job if I've never

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>done it, I've never been a reporter.

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to sit here and slidly and saying link.

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>But with that being said, I'm not gonna sit here

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and discredit people either, though there are some people that

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 1>have are cleared. But what but the narratives that the

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>media create. It becomes a part of our thought process,

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 1>it becoming grainess these stories and everybody this this is

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the one thing I don't think Prez which people truly understand.

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 1>If it's almost like if the media said they believe

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it bullshit and then now it becomes a thought process.

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Whether you agree with it or don't, it becomes a

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:25.399
<v Speaker 1>part of your thought process. And that's the first thing

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 1>to come to your mind when you say something. And

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:29.720
<v Speaker 1>that's the one thing that pisses me off more than anything.

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 1>So like, at the same time, I'm okay with people

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>having an opinion, but let let me give you something

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>else to think about it, think about from a different perspective,

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 1>different side, or someone who actually did it.

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I walked this light, I walked this path.

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna show you what from my experience of what

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I've been through, and I'm gonna I'm gonna pay this

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>this This is the direction for you, and it's the

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>deal for you. So when you sit here and you

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>go through all these narratives, man, I just I just

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.720
<v Speaker 1>it just it just it hurts me sometime and pisces

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 1>me off. I just sometimes I have to recuse myself

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:01.760
<v Speaker 1>from a lot of conversations because it's not it's falling

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 1>on death fears because everybody's fucking stuck on stupid at times.

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, common sense ain't coming anymore, you know what

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So you know, it's so many levels to

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>this shit. You know what I'm saying. It is I

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:14.760
<v Speaker 1>want to have well think I want to hand the baton.

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I want you to hand the baton off to me

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 1>because I agree with a lot of what you saying.

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Guys that have covered this game, and I go in particular,

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I say, like a Tony Kornhizel or Michael Wilbond, guys

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 1>that have covered the game. I think they understand the game,

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but their intricacies unless you've been in that huddle, unless

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you've been in that locker room in those intense moments,

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't possibly know. Now See, they might go by

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 1>what somebody told them. I'm going by what I know. See,

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I was in the huddle on fourth down. I was

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in the huddle on third and six. I was in

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the locker room when we had lost five straight against Baltimore.

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>So for you to say I think this is what, No,

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling you what I think. I'm telling you

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 1>what I know because I was there, and so why

0:49:56.520 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 1>they can write it and they've covered the game and

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 1>they do a great job. And I'm like, I don't

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 1>discredit anybody that I've never said, well, you've didn't play

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the game, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>saying from a standpoint of being in the locker room,

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.920
<v Speaker 1>being on the field, being on the court, there are

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>certain things that I can speak to that even in

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:16.359
<v Speaker 1>your thirty forty fifty years of covering the game right,

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.880
<v Speaker 1>can't give the fans what I can't having played the

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 1>game far less than you've ever covered the game. Because

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 1>I've been in the huddle, I've heard that call and

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I looked in guy's eyes, and I know who you know,

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 1>guys that put it what they put in. And I

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 1>know guys that bullgye because I'm there, I see them

0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 1>all the time. You get to spend open locker room,

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 1>what thirty minutes five days? You get to spend thirty

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:47.319
<v Speaker 1>minutes on maybe Monday, Wednesday, Thursday. I don't think you

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:49.919
<v Speaker 1>get to come maybe a little bit on Friday. That's

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 1>all you get. I get to see that guy from

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 1>nine to five, five days a week, then on the

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:57.720
<v Speaker 1>road on Saturday and Sunday in the locker room.

0:50:58.760 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 2>You coming in after the game.

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:01.399
<v Speaker 1>You don't get to talk to him before the game,

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>so you don't know what he's thinking or you know,

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:07.759
<v Speaker 1>you haven't had a conversation with him before. And so

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 1>that's why I don't discredit guys that, because there are

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.320
<v Speaker 1>some guys that do an excellent job and they've talked

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to some of the greats. But you see them talking

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 1>to them. Yes, I'm right there with them. I'm right

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:21.439
<v Speaker 1>there in the locker room, I'm sitting right next to him,

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm right there in the huddle. And so I can

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I just think guys that have played the game now,

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 1>everybody that played the game Matrix can't get on TV

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and talk about the game and explain it in a way,

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:36.919
<v Speaker 1>explaining in the way that maybe somebody in the media

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 1>can talk about of course, but that doesn't mean just

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 1>because you can articulate your thoughts more or better that

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you know the game better or understand the game better

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that hopefully that makes sense to know it? Does it?

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Does?

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>You know? Like Mike, my guy, you know, he's from

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>a crib here. So like Mike is great. Mike has

0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 1>been on TV for what Yes, Mike's been doing it

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 1>for fifty years, like it has been on there. Man, I

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 1>love Mike, you know, And uh, but you said something

0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:06.839
<v Speaker 1>that that's so dawned. I mean, like you you you're

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>experiencing somebody basically being around somebody twenty four seven and

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:13.319
<v Speaker 1>the trenches with people, it's totally different feeling, you know.

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 2>I used to say this when it was everybody was

0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:17.480
<v Speaker 2>like how the team feeling. I'm like, man, you got

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 2>to be in this. You have to be in the

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:19.399
<v Speaker 2>locker room the seat. I can't.

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't express what be going through right now. Well, well,

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel I can't even say it in words. It's

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of it's kind of you gotta be able to

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 1>feel it. You gotta see it. You gotta be sitting

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 1>next to me, and you gotta be feeling that heat

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:31.279
<v Speaker 1>coming from my from my teammate next to me in

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the list on both sides, and we just like we

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 1>ain't got ain't say nothing to him. I'm looking at it,

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>my my, my guy. We about to go to war

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.280
<v Speaker 1>out here. And it's like it's a whole different mindset,

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I think, Uh, it's so many different

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>levels to this cause I think it was it's so

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.399
<v Speaker 1>many great players that played this game in the NBA.

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a great for turning there man. And uh, and

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I take my hair to the OG's who paid the

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 1>way for me. Man, I really do. I all them guys.

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:56.279
<v Speaker 1>They don't get enough credit. Man, they don't get enough fowers. Man,

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 1>we don't talk about enough. And I'm I just it's

0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:01.239
<v Speaker 1>just sad because every year feel like we losing we

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 1>losing some icons in this game. And you know, and

0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm forty seven now, I just had a birthday last

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 1>week and I'm lisitting here.

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I just I just gotta take my house to these guys. Man.

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I want I think all the oldies that paid away

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 2>from me.

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Man, I'm truly blessed to being the positions I'm man,

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't take none of this for granted. It's kind

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, me trying to go sit into

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:21.879
<v Speaker 1>a newsroom and try to tell them how to create

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 1>a story or write.

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 2>A narrative or bro.

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll watched the game, but I can't craft it

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:31.879
<v Speaker 1>like you could. And so, like I said, I don't

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>discredit anybody because I don't think I can do see what, Oh, Joe,

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.799
<v Speaker 1>you know you and I have had this conversation. I

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 1>don't feel that I can do your job better than you.

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I just feel I can do my job better than

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you can do your job. Now, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong,

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's how I feel I don't think I could

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 1>do my job do your job better than you. I

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>just feel I could do my job better than you

0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 1>could do your You deduce from that whatever you want, right,

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:01.800
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not going to discredit you from your job that.

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Whatever the case may be, a cash here ain't nobody

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>could be no casth y'all. Ben gave them people. They

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:10.319
<v Speaker 1>give me a dollar, I give them ten back. They're coming,

0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>hey all the numbers and hey, I ain't got.

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Time for that.

0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I get fust spready, But I understand that people have

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a job to do. And I think it's it's easy

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to say because they won without Jason Tatum, they're not

0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:28.280
<v Speaker 1>winning a championship without Jayson Tatum.

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:28.840
<v Speaker 2>You think that?

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 1>What do you think the odds are, Oh, Joe, they

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>win a championship, They're gonna win the NBA Championship without JT.

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so, if that's not the case, they're not

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>better without it, because the odds are they are a

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:41.840
<v Speaker 1>better team. They do you think they would have won

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the championship last year without j T? Absolutely not, absolutely not.

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 3>And as matter of fact, since you pose that question too,

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 3>based on you know, and Kevin Durant going going back

0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 3>and forth this from just one game on what happens

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:58.359
<v Speaker 3>if they come back in this series and they get

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:01.759
<v Speaker 3>it done without Jason Tatum? What happens if they get

0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 3>to the Eastern Commerce obviously get to the Eastern Conferce

0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:07.240
<v Speaker 3>finals without Jason Tatum?

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:10.720
<v Speaker 4>What happened if they do get a chip without Jason Tatum?

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Not?

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:12.720
<v Speaker 2>What does that say?

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Not possible?

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:18.839
<v Speaker 3>No, even with the way Jaylen Brown played right, No

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 3>in preaching, Okay, okay.

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Listen, I said that same thing, Hotel I saw. I

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 1>was talking from my guys last night about that. I

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, I just said, what a hypothetical. You know,

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:31.319
<v Speaker 1>it ain't many teams in the NBA history ever came

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.840
<v Speaker 1>down came back from a three to one jeposit but

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 1>just hypothetical hypotheticals.

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's a hypothetical.

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Just where he's going with a hypothetical, say, for instance,

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>they win tomorrow, Boston won, were they able to get

0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:46.759
<v Speaker 1>able to get back home? Because at the end of

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:49.799
<v Speaker 1>the day, do you know the rope the uh you know,

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I luck the next I do.

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Jaylen Brush is a savage out there that closer.

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 1>But but with that being said, though, the supporting cast

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:01.400
<v Speaker 1>only had one game in the series so far that

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:04.279
<v Speaker 1>they all up the score with twenty points one game.

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 1>So like, you know, you don't know what the supporting

0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:08.839
<v Speaker 1>cast gonna do. You know, Jayon Brust is they head

0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 1>a snake over there. And you know a lot of

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>these teams are one injury away from not doing anything.

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Am I right? Okay? So, but Boston is one team

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:24.640
<v Speaker 2>that has listen. They they have they have enough to

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:25.279
<v Speaker 2>still do it.

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm saying if everybody show up though, if in

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:34.360
<v Speaker 1>other words, Kate show, if I takes if I takeos

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:38.279
<v Speaker 1>reasoning and I listened to you with if so, if

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 1>the Golden State Warriors had won that series, that means

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 1>they're better without Steph Curry.

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 4>No ship, that's different.

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Remove the best player off the team, just hold on.

0:56:56.719 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Just the supporting cast, uh in Golden State is not

0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:02.680
<v Speaker 3>even close to what they have.

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:05.880
<v Speaker 1>And about Jimmy Butler, play out, Jimmy, you don't we

0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 1>play out Jimmy.

0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:09.359
<v Speaker 2>He's taking too He's taking the team two teams to the.

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 1>NBA five and he hadn't had I'm just saying, I'm

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 1>just I'm just throwing about that. We just haven't health

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the conversation now since we're doing what ips Yeah, but no,

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 1>but they're done now, so they're done. But but go

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 1>look at the roster though, so go go go Boston

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:28.480
<v Speaker 1>starting goes go roster right now, top seven players there,

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 1>so five's top five now because take them is out now, so.

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 2>They're their their current roster right now.

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Look at their lineup, though, tell me what you think

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:38.520
<v Speaker 1>about their line compared to Air Boss line up. If

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 1>they're doing what they're supposed to do without Jason Tatum,

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>their their best six players aren't better than the mixed

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:45.440
<v Speaker 1>best six players.

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You don't think so? Hell know? With Bronson, Cat Bridges, Heart,

0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 2>who's the other guy? Oh G I love New York.

0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I love them. And then you got and you got Mitchell,

0:57:58.760 --> 0:57:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Robinson and McBride.

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 1>So I take the If I take the Knicks seven

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:07.120
<v Speaker 1>best players minus Tatum, and so the Knicks seven best players,

0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and you to give me the Celtics seven best players

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:16.280
<v Speaker 1>minus Tatum, I'll take the Knicks. Okay, I'm gonna see

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, kp ain't showed up yet in this playoffs yet.

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:22.240
<v Speaker 1>He ain't gonna show up, so let's stop looking for him.

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 1>He's seventy three of invisible. So see, I'm just a

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>firm believer out of I this saw these guys have all.

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 1>You got all, you got two, you got two guys, Well,

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you got three All star pedigree guys on Boston Celtics

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.120
<v Speaker 1>step that they're either a former All Star or not.

0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:41.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. You only only current All

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Star on the team is Jaylen Brunton right now. But

0:58:43.520 --> 0:58:45.480
<v Speaker 1>but Derek White could have easily been as what about

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 1>what about Cat hold hold on? Cat Cat was also

0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 1>but they got too, That's what I'm saying. New York

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 1>got two. Yeah, Boston, Boston, they got two current, But

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Boston has one current and two former Jue Holiday yes

0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and uh for thinking so what that being said? But

0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 1>then uh uh, Deck White could have easily been one

0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 1>this year. I'm saying, yeah, that was our hold for

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the All Star too. They'll make it one time. He

0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:11.520
<v Speaker 1>has been an All Star. Yeah, he's been All Star

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>so the older but also as pedigry does play and

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>have some leverage and god what hell uh uh uh

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Metrix Hell, I was a twelfth grader. Long time for him.

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I was a former twelfth grader. Oh Joe, it ain't

0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 1>over over. Yeah, over tis over. Remember this is all hypothetical,

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:32.440
<v Speaker 1>but anything is possible.

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:35.600
<v Speaker 2>It ain't over. We know that, so we do that

0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot though we oh Joe, we do that a lot.

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:40.280
<v Speaker 1>We see a guy, uh and football go down with

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:41.600
<v Speaker 1>their better team without him.

0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:46.720
<v Speaker 2>No they not, no, no, hell, they died right somebody.

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:48.600
<v Speaker 1>The fact they want to game one time where they

0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.760
<v Speaker 1>want to game without Chase, well that means they're better team.

0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, you're talking.

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:57.040
<v Speaker 1>You talked about how Jason Tatum is about to make

0:59:57.080 --> 1:00:00.240
<v Speaker 1>his fourth consecutive All NBA teams deserve you You mean

1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to tell me a team is better without an all

1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:04.440
<v Speaker 1>our first team All NBA selection?

1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:07.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, you know it makes you question it though

1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:09.919
<v Speaker 3>UNC and Sean, you look at the way they played

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:15.000
<v Speaker 3>without him in that one game. It makes it raises

1:00:15.040 --> 1:00:18.600
<v Speaker 3>the question and the possibility of the MAXI being better

1:00:18.880 --> 1:00:20.720
<v Speaker 3>without them because they need.

1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:25.439
<v Speaker 1>What happens, oh yo, what happens when the original teacher

1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:28.760
<v Speaker 1>is not when you get a substitute, Well, it's not

1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the same, So now you do things differently. I believe

1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the Nicks let the Knicks let their guard down. The

1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Knigs like, well they ain't got j T. They ain't

1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:37.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna be ready to play, and they underestimated them. I

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:39.440
<v Speaker 1>bet they don't make that same mistake. I bet they

1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:41.080
<v Speaker 1>don't make that mistake in the MSG.

1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:44.080
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna see well Hope not. You know what I'm saying.

1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:47.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know, listen, man, when you when you are here, man,

1:00:48.160 --> 1:00:50.600
<v Speaker 1>we can't One of the things I learned a long

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:52.640
<v Speaker 1>time ago. You know this, The one thing you can

1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:55.360
<v Speaker 1>control is what your effort. You can't control, Yeah, the

1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:58.440
<v Speaker 1>ball going to Hope not, so you listen. You can

1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:02.240
<v Speaker 1>control you can only going in the hoop. So like, heymen,

1:01:02.360 --> 1:01:06.560
<v Speaker 1>listen man, people feeling that pressure and listen that I

1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:08.560
<v Speaker 1>know Garden's gonna be rocking them all. You know what

1:01:08.600 --> 1:01:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Oh see, I kind of what I was

1:01:10.560 --> 1:01:12.360
<v Speaker 1>in that. I ain't never been to a playoff game

1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:13.800
<v Speaker 1>in uh in New York.

1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I would love to be.

1:01:14.520 --> 1:01:20.880
<v Speaker 1>There, but I got did uh did acho did not

1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:25.040
<v Speaker 1>see the three games they lost with Jason Tatum, so

1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you better without him.

1:01:26.200 --> 1:01:29.720
<v Speaker 2>But you lost three games with it, but they were

1:01:30.040 --> 1:01:31.280
<v Speaker 2>he had forty two. They up.

1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:35.280
<v Speaker 1>We're not even witt Listen, they're not winning. They're not

1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:37.320
<v Speaker 1>what they are without Jason Tables. He's one of the

1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:39.480
<v Speaker 1>best players in the NBA by far easily. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>a question. It's hard you could let's just say he's

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<v Speaker 1>a top ten player. How's the team better without a

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<v Speaker 1>top ten player? Okay, you go in the gate. See,

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<v Speaker 1>and that faked the thing. Sometimes. What happened Matrix and

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<v Speaker 1>Ojoe is that a team will win a game or

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<v Speaker 1>two without their best player, and people starting to believe, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we can get rid of him if we can get

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<v Speaker 1>something back.

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<v Speaker 2>No you can. Ain't. Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, we so long. Okay, now, no, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do with that. I'm gonna tell you something now.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, put this way, if Jaylen so Jylen Brown

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<v Speaker 1>was out and Jason Tatan was playing right now and

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<v Speaker 1>they did the same thing, would you would you still

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<v Speaker 1>saying the same thing. No, because I think they need

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<v Speaker 1>both of them. Because when they when Kevin Durant became available,

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<v Speaker 1>they offered Jalen Brown and Jerrick white Is some draft

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<v Speaker 1>picks for Kevin Durant. They didn't offer Jason Tatum. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, listen, kat my guy, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. But like I'm just saying because right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Jylen Brown took over the role that Tatum does, did

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<v Speaker 1>he not in his last Yes? So, so he became

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<v Speaker 1>the main, main facilitator and did a great job at it.

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<v Speaker 1>He never get it, so yes, so he was dudo. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, did you see the way he's been playing

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<v Speaker 1>this so look, So Tatum last year was dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>point guard, per se, That's what they said. Last year

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<v Speaker 1>they let him meet the main ball handler. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch them play, they go a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>they go tip for Tag, they go, they will come

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<v Speaker 1>down and shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>The Brown come down in the shoot at times. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. Yes, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you don't have to go tip for Tag.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you got you got him designated that spot right now. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you there, it ain't over tes overweight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they can listen. I listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to see New York's go do all

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<v Speaker 2>the way I wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wanted to go see I actually seven, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean honestly, you know, hey, it's been some great basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but at the end of anything is possible. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't put nothing. It's like I said, it's all hypothetical though.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember we're just talking about but it's hard to come

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<v Speaker 1>back from a three to one deficit though. But the

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<v Speaker 1>first two games, though, honestly they could have easily won

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<v Speaker 1>though they fucked them ships off.

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<v Speaker 2>They did. They fucked them ships off.

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<v Speaker 1>So we sit here and we keep acting like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying Boston is one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that Boston had and the recent was able to prevail

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<v Speaker 1>last year that most people don't.

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<v Speaker 2>They have seven three and D guys.

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<v Speaker 1>They got one one down with the injury last game,

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<v Speaker 1>they still got those six three and the guys.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of teams don't have three in D guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got everybody that's starting to switch everything now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm saying though, So like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not over, tis over, and you just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe kath three is due for a big game tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>The volume