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Speaker 1: joining us as the Denver Nuggets four sex Game seven

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Speaker 1: with a one nineteen one oh seven victory over a O.

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Speaker 2: KC. They got production from where they needed it.

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Speaker 1: Nicola Jokic was sensation to night twenty nine points, fourteen rebounds,

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Speaker 1: They gave him fifteen big points off the bench and

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Speaker 1: The Denver Nuggets do what I thought they would.

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Speaker 1: They hole serve and they forced a game seven one

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Speaker 2: You got great contributions.

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Speaker 1: You got five guys in double figures, led by Nicola

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Speaker 1: from the field watching this game, matrix, What did you

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Speaker 1: it was tough nipping tuck, but they broke the game open.

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Speaker 1: What did you like about what you saw from the

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Speaker 1: closers in the game right now with a Joker and Murray. Man.

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Speaker 2: Murray stepped up big. You know, he came up.

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Speaker 1: They say he was sick before the game, but man,

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Speaker 1: I think he don't get enough credit as he deserved. Man,

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Speaker 1: I think he you gonna ask two minutes, Tom, that's

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Speaker 1: a tough team to beat man.

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Speaker 2: You know what I like.

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that they're really aggressive. They shot

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Speaker 1: not They weren't settling. They were trying to put pressure

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Speaker 1: They shot thirty two free throw a tempts they was

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Speaker 1: He was three or sixteen from the floor, oh four

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Speaker 2: They had so many mistakes out their young mistakes. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's some mentality of these young teams, tams that

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Speaker 1: But when the mistakes catching up with them, they turned

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Speaker 2: Now where else can we get some production?

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Speaker 1: Julius Strauther gave that to them. Fifteen points, a career

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Speaker 1: Let's get it back to OKC, and let's see who

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Speaker 1: love the way they played tonight. I love the championship medal.

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Speaker 1: As Matrix mentioned, the Nuggets showed. What did you like

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Speaker 2: So Jo?

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously they played well. They suffocated. They suffocated.

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Speaker 1: Naw, you can't chance that, o Jo, because you a

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Speaker 1: Well you could live with that because the Nuggets are

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be at home, So I got damn. If

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Speaker 1: I told you it was concerning to me because I

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Speaker 2: And make sure you know this. The longer I can.

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Speaker 2: Though, see tell you.

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Speaker 1: Uh Majure's your former team. Wasn't the NBA draft lardest.

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Speaker 1: listen to Scott's limit for the young man. I think

435
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 1: as long as he come in, put the work in,

436
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,879
Speaker 1: and we're singing samples of what he can do when

437
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 1: he plays against the USA basketball team last year, US said, yep,

438
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 1: so the work is there now that it's gonna be

439
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 1: a different test now having to go against these go

440
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 1: against these players, not in night out, but I mean, uh,

441
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 1: if he comes to the Mavericks and we Mavericks draft

442
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,160
Speaker 1: him number one, I think he come into a great

443
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 1: organization and a great situation.

444
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

445
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be the the number one. He's not

446
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: the faith no, no, not the not the focal poet.

447
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 1: And he got you got some you got some great

448
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 1: veteran leaders on that team. That's gonna help him, and

449
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be an easier transition when you know, a

450
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: lot of times people be uh, A lot of times

451
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 1: good teams don't ever get the first pick.

452
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

453
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: Teams, you know that's because you're a lot of reteam.

454
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 1: Don't mean you're a bad team. He just had a

455
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: bad correct that bad season. Things didn't fall your way.

456
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 1: So a lot of times, a lot of good some

457
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 1: good players come into teams that are are bad.

458
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

459
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 1: You come into a situation where they want you to

460
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: be the guy immediately, and sometimes that doesn't work out

461
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 1: for a lot of guys. You know what I'm saying,

462
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: it's that much pressure, it's harder. There's too much everything

463
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 1: going on to me moving parts. But he got a

464
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: good chance to go into a good organization. Good coach,

465
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: Jay Kidd, my guy, you know what I'm saying, And

466
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: uh man playing with Anthony Davis, Kyrie Klay Thompson and

467
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: a young young group of guys as talented and the

468
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: ain't hungry. So I mean I think, uh, you know,

469
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 1: as we sit here and talk about all these teams

470
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: and stuff, a lot of a lot of teams are

471
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: either one player or one and a half player away.

472
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 2: From going to the finals.

473
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 1: I'll say this every year all the time, that that

474
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: that that the parody is so close during down the

475
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: league that you know what I'm saying, all it take

476
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: is to get you get getting hurt at the right time.

477
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: Right, O Joe, what do you think Cooper flag ceiling is?

478
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 1: Because he's a lot of execs says Yeah, I think

479
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: he'll be a good player, but not a superstar. I

480
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 1: think he'd be good, but he's not. He's not Zion,

481
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: he's not Victor winbin Yama out. We don't see him

482
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: as a as this generational talent like can't miss and

483
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 1: another guys like well, I don't see him as an

484
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: MVP candidate.

485
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: There have been a lot of great players that didn't

486
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,679
Speaker 2: win the m v P.

487
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 3: H Well, hell, they said the same thing about Joker.

488
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: You see where he went, right, Yeah, he probably said

489
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: the same thing about him. But obviously you watch Cooper Flag,

490
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 3: he's looking what he's done Duke right, and you watch

491
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: him play against the elite talent at the college level.

492
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 3: But then you also watch what he was able to

493
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 3: do against the USA basketball team before they prepared for

494
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: the Olympics, and you understand he has all the tools

495
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 3: in the toolbox. He's someone that works hard. And obviously

496
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: him going to Dallas and not having to be the

497
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: face and just being a part of that team and

498
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: being able to work on his game and evolve his

499
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: game to a point where he actually can become a superstar.

500
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,959
Speaker 3: I mean, how many times do you have a player

501
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: that's a generational talent and comes out and as Wimbayama

502
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 3: or Zion Wims Williamson. Those are special talents that come

503
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 3: around every so often. Everyone else that becomes elite or

504
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: NBP caliber, they have to work at it, right, we

505
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 3: have to give him an opportunity to work on this

506
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: game because everybody doesn't just come out in Nordy be

507
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: all right, a chosen one.

508
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: There's only so many Lebrons. Yeah, just because I think

509
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: the thing is in major correct me from wrong. A

510
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: lot of times the lit till we know this is like,

511
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 1: oh he number one, he transcended, he generational, he's franchise altering.

512
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 2: No that somebody's got to go number one.

513
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, just because you go number one, that doesn't mean

514
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna be Kareem or Magic or Lebron or one

515
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: of these other historically great players that has been selected

516
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: number one. And so I think that that that needs

517
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: to be That needs to be the thought process. People

518
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: think just because you go number one, oh he's about

519
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: to be Peyton Manny, Oh he about to be John Elway. No,

520
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily true. Somebody has to go number one.

521
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: And maybe just because he went number one, that doesn't

522
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: mean he's gonna be franchise altering it.

523
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 2: Could he could?

524
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: He could, because look, we can say that there have

525
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: been plenty of guys that they had late the tag

526
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: can't miss and they missed, And there have been some

527
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: guys that're like, damn, I didn't see that, Because if

528
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: you saw that, like you said, O, Joe, if everybody

529
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: would have thought Yoki was gonna to be what he

530
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: turned out, he wouldn't have been in the second round.

531
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Speaker 1: He'd been a number one pick of the draft, and

532
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: because he wasn't, that just goes to show you it's

533
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: you never know what a guy has in here here.

534
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: You never know. You can look at it and say, oh, man,

535
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: that Joe was sixteen.

536
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: He can jump out the gym, he can shoot the three,

537
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: he can get to the mini, whatever the case may be.

538
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: But what does he have in here? How much does

539
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: it mean to it?

540
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: Because some guys it means more to others, and they're

541
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: willing to work a little harder in order to achieve it.

542
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: Some guys that have come natural to Matrix and they

543
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: don't work nearly as hard. And you're like, man, I

544
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: sure wish I had that guy's talent. With his talent

545
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: and my work, effic hell, I could have been this.

546
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think? What do you think?

547
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: Matrix man? Listen, y'all, y'all hitting on a lot of

548
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of points. Man, I think

549
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things I'm I'm a firm believer

550
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 1: in is in order to be selful, you got a sacrifice.

551
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: How much do you want to sacrifice to get to

552
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: that position? To get that nutt level? I think he has,

553
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: Like you said, he has all potential. One of the

554
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: things you didn't realize. I guess doing the history and

555
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about he gonna be the if. When it happens,

556
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: he will be the first a white boy to actually

557
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: go number one in the draft in a long time.

558
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: Think about that, Yeah, had Bill, Yeah, most of all

559
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: the all the white players in the league now Europe

560
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: or black player. Yeah, and that's not saying American all

561
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: of them. He's the first American. Uh yeah, Ernican boy

562
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: gonna be going number one the draft. That's tough, you

563
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, Gallinari, Gallinari with number one?

564
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did he go number one? Yeah he did.

565
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: I think they did. You rock Toronto. Yeah, But that's

566
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: a lot man saying a lot. But man, he's taught.

567
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: Man. I wish him the best, man.

568
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: I think he has a tremorous upside to the It's

569
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: gonna be exciting to watch.

570
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah from Indiana.

571
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: Who Yeah, the last the last American born white player

572
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: to go number one. Overall was Kent Benson?

573
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: What year was that?

574
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: I think he's the one that got in the fight

575
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: with Kareem and Kareem broke he elbowed Kareem and Kareem

576
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: turned around the points to be the face he broke

577
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: his nose. Yeah, what year was that though? Forty five

578
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: years ago? Nineteen seventy seven. Yes, so what I'm saying,

579
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: because what was walking in seventy seventies seventies six? Yeah,

580
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: it was five seventy six, walking back in seventy five,

581
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: seventy six, it.

582
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: Was seventy five.

583
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: I was at that draft.

584
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's he wasn't he born yet, but okay,

585
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: he was born. Yeah, so it's walk was seventy was

586
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: the seventy four draft. Yeah, that's special, man, But uh yeah,

587
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: that's a lot. Yeah, that's that's been that's a long

588
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: time time man. Listen, I think he's special though I

589
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: wished him all of up.

590
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 2: Man.

591
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: I hope I hope it. I hope he's able to

592
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 1: excel and do everything he wants and put it. I

593
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: heard he got great work at he's a great Bundy.

594
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: I ain't so I heard I heard his special kid.

595
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: I ain't met him yeah, I heard great things about

596
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: him already, and I was gonna see him.

597
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 2: I'm up here.

598
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: I went to the combine yesterday, so yeah, I ain't

599
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: seen him yet, so I was hoping to run into him.

600
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: I ain't bumping to him. So, uh yeah, Ton the

601
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: corner metrics, you was at the right team. It was

602
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: Andre Barnyanni. Yeah, that was number one overall in two

603
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: thousand and six to Toronto. You had the right team.

604
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: But I knew. I was like, no, it was I

605
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: got it, got it confused, but it was. It was

606
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: Barnyanni in two thousand and six. I play with Andre

607
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: what but he was foreign born? Where we're talking an

608
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: American born player. Hell, there hadn't been a whole lot

609
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: of them. I mean you gotta go. I mean, you

610
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: go back to Walton seventy four. You got Ken Bison

611
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: in seventy six. So it's not like it's you know,

612
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: it's not been a it's not been a whole lot

613
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: of American born, white players that's been selected number one overall.

614
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: But if it be a huge accomplishment for Cooper Flag,

615
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd be very excited. His family, his town,

616
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: his hometown, uh state would be very excited to see, uh, finally,

617
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: finally an.

618
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 2: American born white player be selected number one.

619
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: All it's uh, it's interesting to see because to see

620
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: the way he plays O Joe because of the side

621
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: they had, what is six saxty sixty nine.

622
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: He can handle the ball because he led, He led.

623
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: Duke and everything, scoring, rebound, assists, block shots, steals, so

624
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: it shows that he's well rounded. He could do it.

625
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: He could do a lot. He could do it basically everything,

626
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: a little everything. And but the difference is he was

627
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: a coming into Duke's one thing, coming into the NBA

628
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: where there guys just to skill just as talk can

629
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: jump just as how I can run just as fast

630
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: and shoot just as good can play defense, just as

631
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: good can do everything you do just as good. That's

632
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: what'st That's what you when you start getting the levels.

633
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: They say, Okay, you go to JV and then you

634
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: go to high school, and then you go to college,

635
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: or you go to the G League or whatever the

636
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: case may be. But once you get to the pros

637
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: which is NBA, NFL, MLB, whatever the case, whatever sport

638
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: that you play, yeah, you understand, like there's levels to this.

639
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: This is this and people feed. This is what I

640
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: tell that said, these grown men, this is how they

641
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: feed their family. This is how kids go to private school.

642
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: This is how college tuitions get paid. This is how

643
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: to make sure the wife didn't go significant other than

644
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: nothing to have to work. This is how mom or

645
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: grandma get the house. Bro, guys are not gonna allow

646
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: you to take food up their table now they Hey,

647
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: they bringing it, because that's how that's how I look.

648
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys frosted one, but I

649
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: looked at Oh, you try to take you try to

650
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: take my kids out of school. You try to get

651
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: my grandma to have to go back to do a

652
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: little odds and then jobs.

653
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: Oh no, bro, that ain't gonna happen.

654
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: Hey, you know that's our old school mentality though, that's

655
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: all They ain't the new generation mentality.

656
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: Really, they don't think like that.

657
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, But that's that's that's how, that's

658
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: our train of thought, because you know that we were

659
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: survivors back then.

660
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: These now it's a big entitlement now these days.

661
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: But some of these kids, there are some special ones

662
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: that truly believe in putting the work in.

663
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: I think he's one of those guys.

664
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: I think, Uh, listen, a lot of us, now we

665
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: know what the gang gave us, and the opportunity to

666
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: get for us ourselves, our families and our friends, and.

667
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: Everybody will be able to truly bless.

668
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: But sometimes a lot of people take these things for

669
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: granted and it can be over just as fast as

670
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: they can.

671
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

672
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because we've been hearing a

673
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: lot of a lot about this. Uh Nico Hasson trades

674
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: Luka Doncic. Now that the ratings goes Hey, why he's

675
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: in l a And now he trades Luca and all

676
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: of a sudden and the number two pick goes to Utah,

677
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: which means the number one pick goes to the Dallas Mavericks.

678
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: Do you believe the draft is rigged? The draft lot

679
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: of is rigged?

680
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: Now?

681
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.

682
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: It's just sometimes things work out in their favorite man.

683
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: I think you know, if you look at it, if

684
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: it was rigged. And why are teams thanking purposely to

685
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: try to get the number one pick? Most of the

686
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: teams are tank What team has ever tanked purposely tanked

687
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: and got one number one pick? Can you do the

688
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: try on that true, the team is to be very

689
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: interesting because the team that started taking they they picked

690
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: it way down.

691
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: They gonna be need to tank again, you know what

692
00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

693
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: So when you start thinking about all that stuff, man, listen,

694
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: everybody gonna always have a speculation. Somebody always have something

695
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: to say, whether it's right or wrong. Yeah, you know what,

696
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: you know what the face, Well, the conspiracy theory is

697
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna always exist, man, come on, it started the first

698
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: year that it actually started. Guy, the first year they

699
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: had the lottery to eighty five and the Knicks ended

700
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: up getting Patrick Uit. So that started. They're like, hold on,

701
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: it's of New York. The first year they got the lottery,

702
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: you didn't get hit the Patrick ewit. Yeah, so that

703
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: it started. So every since then they're like, hold on,

704
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: you mean to tell me a guy that grew up

705
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: one hour away from Cleveland and he's coming out and

706
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: he ended up to the Cavs Lebron.

707
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, listen, it was such a convenience. It's

708
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: such an odd convenience too. No shine to where it

709
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: almost seems like, even though if you're conspiracy theorist and all,

710
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: it just seems like it was rigged or done on

711
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: purpose to to satisfy and not just the MAVs were

712
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: going tozation, but the fans as well, and to get

713
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: Nico Nico Harrison off the goddamn hook.

714
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: That's just what feels like. Just how what are the

715
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 4: odds on? Think about it?

716
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: Though they had the fourth, they had the fourth longest

717
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: odds to get the number one overall pick. I think

718
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: Dereck Rose was like one for Chicago, get another one.

719
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Chicago got Deck Rose. We didn't want to talk about that,

720
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: but go ahead, go ahead, fish point.

721
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: I was just saying just the fact that it all

722
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: happened that way and it was perfect. It seemed perfectly orchestrated.

723
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: You let you let Luca go, and you have nothing.

724
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: Everybody's upset. Nico Harrison keeps on talking about it, making

725
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: everybody even more upset.

726
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: And now to ease.

727
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: Everybody's mind and ease the tension, damn now you got

728
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: the number one pick two. I don't know, it just

729
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: seems the odds, If the dods are that good, we

730
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: need to go play the goddamn lotto.

731
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Let me ask you this matrix, what was

732
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: your reaction when you found that your team had traded

733
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: Luca to the Lakers. Lakers, listen, I hang a lot

734
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: to you. When we saw it, we thought it was

735
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: a hoax. We thought everybody did. We thought it was

736
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: a fake. It was some bullshit, be honest. But you

737
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: ain't Yeah, like nah, I ain't, no way it happened.

738
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: They don't even sound real.

739
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: Man.

740
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: I was getting text messages, I was getting it started

741
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: hitting the Sports Center and it was like everything. I

742
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: was like, ho ho, this was for real. I was like, yo,

743
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: what happened? But man, listen, it's a business man. You

744
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: know when you when you ever sit on the other

745
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: side of the uh on all the side of the

746
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: business side, not the sporting side, just on the on

747
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: the on the massak side. I'm the owner. I've been

748
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: the owner for sports now for seven years now.

749
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

750
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: I've been in that space. It's a different mindset. It's

751
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: a business. At the end of the day. People don't

752
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: really truly understand the dynamics of what owners doing.

753
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: Don't do.

754
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: All they see is what the fans do. I mean,

755
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: what the what what the sport is on the I

756
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: mean what things that go on the floor and what

757
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: people get paid. There's a lot of moving parts behind

758
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: the scene that go on to run these teams and

759
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: organizations and stuff. So when it's so many moving parts on,

760
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: I just say, look, man, it's it's a business. Man.

761
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: It things happen, you know what I'm saying that that's

762
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: that's what it is. At the end of the day,

763
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: we can signed contracts. We was all athletes at one point,

764
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: but we have no controller. Some of us happened control

765
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: to say so at times predicated on the situations and

766
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: who you are and what you did on that court.

767
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, if somebody wants

768
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: to trade you, they got direct to trade you, you

769
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: know what, right, Like come on now, like I'm not

770
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying all this, but they do have an owner.

771
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: You sign a contract. That owner controls your rights and

772
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: everything you do.

773
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: But you you he paid your salary, dude, he could

774
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: he writes in checks for you so you can go

775
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: cash and little lights out that we do understand that

776
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: it's a business and it's it's not a lot of

777
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: things don't go to play as plannings you want.

778
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes Listen, I was traded what twice? Twice? You know?

779
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: And but I knew I was going, I knew I

780
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: had control over where I was going and dictated all

781
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: that stuff.

782
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: I knew exactly what was happening and how it happened.

783
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

784
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: But like saying to, I have some leeway.

785
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: So at least if you are gonna get a certain

786
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 1: a certain caliber player, you do have some say someone

787
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: know what's going on, and uh, you know it is

788
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: what it is, it's part of it.

789
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see you had you had some knowledge. Luca

790
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: had no knowledge of it.

791
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, this thing, this thing was had it had

792
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: to be hush hushed because we didn't hear anything about it.

793
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: Luca. Lookah yeah, I mean listen.

794
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I hurt him so much,

795
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: because he I think he had all intents and purpose

796
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: to spend his entire careerge Houston. And you think a

797
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: guy that's been the excuse me, Dallas. I think when

798
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: you make five consecutive of all the NBA teams, you

799
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: just took a team to the finals, You're like, you

800
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: know what, I'm here.

801
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: I ain't going nowhere as long as I want to

802
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: be here.

803
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: And plus the fact we had never seen someone his age,

804
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: this talented leave without requesting to leave. Kareem left because

805
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: he wanted to leave. Lebron left because he wanted to leave.

806
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: Shaq left. But we've never seen a guy this young,

807
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: this accomplished leave and had no idea that it was

808
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: going on, that they were going to move him. And

809
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: I think that's what hurting the most. And people always

810
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: have this idea. You know, people love spending other people's money. Man,

811
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't three hundred and forty five million dollars. It

812
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: ain't your money, ain't nothing, but the order looking at it, like,

813
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: hold on three forty five for Luca, I'm gonna probably

814
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: have to.

815
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: Break bread with Kyrie. Ad gonna want up some money.

816
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: And so they're looking at the business aspect of it,

817
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: and like you know, I know they were talking one time,

818
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: but potentially moving it the Las Vegas.

819
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna happen.

820
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: I think the NBA want their own team in Las

821
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: Vegas and possibly another team in Seattle, considering how much

822
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: money is being paid for NBA franchises.

823
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: But I think that's what I think. Oh Chore, let

824
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: me ask you this. Do you think.

825
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: The vitriol, the outrage that the fan base and Dallas

826
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: showed towards NKO and the Dallas organization.

827
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: You think it was warranted?

828
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, based on what Luca's been able to do

829
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: on the court, what he's done for them, especially the

830
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: previous year taking them to the NBA Finals, It's goddamn warranted.

831
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: It's absolutely warranted for a generational talent like that. I'm

832
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 3: not sure what the issue is. I understand they might

833
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: have been some things off the court that might have

834
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: rubbed management long term and wanted to invest that kind

835
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: of money in him, But when it comes to what

836
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: he does on the court and understanding what he meant

837
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: to not just the fans of Dallas, but what he meant.

838
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: To that organization, I just don't.

839
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: I just don't.

840
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: I don't see myself doing it if I'm in their position,

841
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: I just don't.

842
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: How do you make you you're the general manager?

843
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: You know, Luca in line to get a five year,

844
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty five million dollar contract. Now, I

845
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: don't know if you talk to anybody in the building,

846
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how much time do you live in Dallas?

847
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: Where do you live? Phoenix is down, I'm in Dallas,

848
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm in both, Okay, So I don't know how how

849
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: close you are the people in the building.

850
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: Huh huh.

851
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: You said, I'm in both, but every boy got money, So.

852
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: Keep that said. I don't I don't, I don't know.

853
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how close you are the people in

854
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: the building or what do you heard? You know, there

855
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: are a lot of things about conditioning, and then you know, uh,

856
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: he likes you know, he likes hookah and whatever the

857
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: case may be.

858
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, he's still giving

859
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: you those numbers.

860
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: So you're the general manager in Dallas and Luca's on

861
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: your team.

862
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: How do you head of this situation? You trade me?

863
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: You know what that's not It's not as easy as

864
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: you say that. You asked me a question if I'm

865
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: a gym. It's got so many other movie parts that

866
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: go along with it.

867
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: Though. So when you I was so I would I

868
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: could say this, I was. You gave me the GM hat.

869
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: I'm giving you the franchise player hat because I'm gonna

870
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: give you something that comes along with being a franchise player.

871
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: So you gotta so you're the franchise player on the court,

872
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: but you also the franchise player, your face of everything

873
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: in the community. And all this stuff off the court

874
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: if you're doing it the right way and all the stuff.

875
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: So I know what my my job and my duty

876
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: was when I signed that contract, when I said, max player,

877
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: when you sign that contract, there are certain obligations that

878
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: you have to abide by and do. So I've done that.

879
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: So I was in that space. Now do I feel

880
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: like that was the same situation here?

881
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't. I don't.

882
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. I think a Luka was an amazing

883
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: kid and everything. Me being a GM, I don't. I

884
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a GM call though, honestly, sometimes

885
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes, you know, I think that's what I'm saying.

886
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: Everybody think it's always this. I'm I'm and like I said,

887
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: I've been on the owner, I'm on the older side.

888
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: Now I've been the only spot. A lot of a

889
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: lot of sisiness and everything. You know, this it's a

890
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: trickle down effect, you know what I'm saying. It's like

891
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: everybody say, here whispers and all this just came from

892
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: this such and such. Man, listen, you're talking about a

893
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: multi billion dollar business. Then worst this ain't coming from somebody.

894
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: Somebody will opened their down mouth somewhere and said something

895
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: it ain't a't supposed to say it or they get

896
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: permission to say that.

897
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, Man, Nico my guy.

898
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 2: You know, I've been knowing.

899
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: Nico for for twenty years, man, and that's my guy.

900
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, Man, whether he

901
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: did what I don't know, whether he did what happened happened.

902
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

903
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: I don't think nobody was gonna give him any love

904
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: or any followers for I don't care who what he got.

905
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: He could have got Michael Jordan back. I think everybody

906
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: will still be mad, you know what I'm saying. So

907
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, man, listen, like I said,

908
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: it's a business man.

909
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: It's sad, but I get it. Man.

910
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: I am a dollhard cubby fan man. So and and

911
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: players get traded all the time. Man, Sometimes some of

912
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: your favorite players get gone. Guess what I'm be mad.

913
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be mad he gone, But I'm still gonna

914
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: be that fan. I'm gonna I'm still be a fan

915
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: of that player who got traded, you know what I'm saying.

916
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: And I'm still gonna be a fan of the clubs,

917
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: so that when I think about it from a span standpoint, yeah,

918
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: you gonna be in your films a little bit. I

919
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: talked to some fans and I heard, I felt they paying.

920
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: You know, I get it, you know what I'm saying.

921
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: But they was like, you know, I'm still a dar

922
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: heard master, and now I love to hear that, you.

923
00:40:59,280 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

924
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: When yeah, fans, that's that's the that's the true truth

925
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: nature of true fans when they tell you that they

926
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: love a team so much.

927
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: Man, listen, we gonna we we we.

928
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: Don't like it, we don't agree with it, but guess what,

929
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna still be here and right I would treat

930
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: guys so hopefully it works out for the best and

931
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: everybody on both sides. Man.

932
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: And that's what it is, man, you know, it's it's

933
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: it's everything.

934
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: And everybody is so sensitive about everything now, so it

935
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: is so it just escalated everything ten times to what

936
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: it was.

937
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: And I get it, you know what I'm saying. Looka

938
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: was special.

939
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: He was doing he was doing something amazing, and they

940
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: had it. They went to the finals last year and

941
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, he got traded. He got

942
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: moved and nobody knew. Like you said, nobody couldn't know

943
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: about it. You know what I'm saying, because it probably

944
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't have happened if it if it came out that

945
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: they were trying, it would never happen. And this is

946
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: what I know. Oh, Choll you know this, Yeah, majorre

947
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: you know this. Ain't no general manager making no call

948
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: on the three hundred and forty five US that's coming

949
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: from ownership. He might, he might make a call to

950
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: get a roll player or a mind have an exception.

951
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 2: Three hundred and forty five million. He ain't making that call.

952
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 1: That's when the top Hey listen, he ain't making that like, hey,

953
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: we need we need a we need a backup point

954
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: guard or the mid level excession exception or.

955
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: What do that?

956
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead of that, Nico. Ye, three hundred

957
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: and forty five million. You about to get somebody? Say

958
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: you about to get somebody seventy million of my dollars?

959
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh hell, hey, y'all, sery.

960
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: Hell to the dollars? What you want to do? What?

961
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: Hold on? Oh hold on, let me let me, let

962
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: me let me think about that. Look here bad what

963
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: they gain if Gona did that on the loan then

964
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: got of that trade.

965
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: What but but a lot of times you have to

966
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: under you understand matrix when you're in that position.

967
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: It's like, and oh told you when I talked about this.

968
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: Well in the.

969
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: Football aspect of it, Roger Goodell, he takes all the

970
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: blowback for the owners. Rob ain't making no decision. That's

971
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 1: them thirty two owners that pay his salary. You can't

972
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: get a salary, it didn't think you can't. Thank you

973
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna call shots on your own. If you receive a salary,

974
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: you gotta oh, you gotta take that from the bosses.

975
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing with Adam Adam Silver.

976
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: Adam Silver worked for those thirty those thirty owners or

977
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: those NBA teams. The same thing as Rob Manford. He

978
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: works for those owners of those baseball teams. And so

979
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: a lot of the blowback, Man, that's terrible. Roger Cadell

980
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: boo boot o Joe Brother just at the draft and

981
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: they're still booing.

982
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't I don't think people don't. Don't worry

983
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 5: about it. Don't worry about it. Rogers said, y'all booing

984
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 5: this sixty million. I got lifetime benefits and I get

985
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 5: to fly private. So y'all don't keep on bing.

986
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't think. I don't think.

987
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: The don understand that Roger is there, represents the thirty

988
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: two owners schools that are implemented and put in place.

989
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: That's what owners.

990
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: Roger just got to deal with the with the run

991
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: of the booze moBack, he got to deal with all us.

992
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: He ain't tripping though.

993
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: Hey hey no, he said, we say get on that

994
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 2: PJ right, Yeah, and Mayo.

995
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Arto recently claimed that Celtics match up better against the

996
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: Knicks without Tatum in the lineup exclusively because of mindset.

997
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I believe a team is a reflection of his leader.

998
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum is the leader of Boston. They are incredibly

999
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: talented team, but they're not tough team. This is what

1000
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant had to say. He responded on Twitter. Excuse

1001
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: me on ed damn hot take. Artists have ruined the

1002
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: sport football guys, no disrespect, but y'all boys need to stand.

1003
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: Y'all laying y'all don't know what it's like to be

1004
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: between them. Give the man a break, Give it between

1005
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: these lines, man, give it a break. Dudes who quit

1006
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: football early to pursue media talking mental.

1007
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: Toughness, cut it out.

1008
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: M M hey, KD taking KT taking shots.

1009
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, k KD gonna respond. I ain't got no problem.

1010
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: I got a problem with it. I ain't got no

1011
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: problem with it. I like it.

1012
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: I like it.

1013
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 3: I wish more players were like that. I wish more

1014
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: elite superstar players would like that and voice their opinion.

1015
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: That's why that's why I like Twitter. I like X

1016
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: because it gives everybody a voice. Now, it cuts it

1017
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: cuts the middle man out, players being able to have

1018
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: an opportunity.

1019
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Nothing lost lost, nothing lost in translation. Okay, yeah, I

1020
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: got something for y'all. Okay, okay, you talk about I

1021
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: love people having voices, but this is my thing.

1022
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: Though.

1023
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: You're a champion, right, yeah, so your mindset is gonna

1024
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: be totally different than somebody who wasn't the champions and

1025
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: not correct. So so that's that's what you got people

1026
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: talking about the game and and this and that. But

1027
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: how can you how can somebody really define the game?

1028
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: If you got if you never want anything, and.

1029
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: Tell somebody from you telling you talking from a losing perspective,

1030
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: you know you never wanted you was an individual?

1031
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: You I mean I'm not saying you was.

1032
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: It's a lot of guys that was great, players that

1033
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: were great, never won.

1034
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: You don't talk about it's all about me, Me, me, me,

1035
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: what about you? Know what I'm saying.

1036
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, you was great individual, but you wasn't

1037
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: a great team player. You ain't excel your team to

1038
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: be to be a winner. You didn't win.

1039
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: Your team was losing.

1040
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: So so if I'm hearing you correctly, you can correct

1041
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. You said, unless you've been a champion,

1042
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: how do you tell me what it takes to become

1043
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: a chance? I'm right, hm hmm. How are you gonna

1044
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: have a champion mindset? You've never been a champion?

1045
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: Well, I have another question, okay for people that in

1046
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: the media space right yes, I'm talking to Sean obviously,

1047
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: with with that, with that, with what he just said,

1048
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: how do you feel about people that talk about the

1049
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: game of basketball, the game of football, the game of hockey,

1050
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: and or or or punnits or analysts on it, or

1051
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 3: or get their opinion or views on it, but have

1052
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: never played the game?

1053
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 4: Can you take what they could? Can you take what

1054
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: they say serious if they've never done it?

1055
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: So So this is my thing.

1056
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: I think they they the media is great creating these

1057
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: narratives and hold on, they can listen. Everybody can have

1058
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: their opinion about the game. I'm not This is open

1059
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: it's open platform. Everybody can discuss it on every level

1060
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: from TV to social media to.

1061
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: Whatever you want to do, podcasts, whatever.

1062
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: But my thing is that so when you when you

1063
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: start dissecting and you really want to know the legists

1064
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: of what it really truly taste, go talk to somebody

1065
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: who's done it before.

1066
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna come.

1067
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: In your space and try to tell you how your

1068
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: job and tell you how your job if I've never

1069
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: done it, I've never been a reporter.

1070
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and slidly and saying link.

1071
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: But with that being said, I'm not gonna sit here

1072
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: and discredit people either, though there are some people that

1073
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: have are cleared. But what but the narratives that the

1074
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: media create. It becomes a part of our thought process,

1075
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: it becoming grainess these stories and everybody this this is

1076
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: the one thing I don't think Prez which people truly understand.

1077
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: If it's almost like if the media said they believe

1078
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: it bullshit and then now it becomes a thought process.

1079
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: Whether you agree with it or don't, it becomes a

1080
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: part of your thought process. And that's the first thing

1081
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: to come to your mind when you say something. And

1082
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that pisses me off more than anything.

1083
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: So like, at the same time, I'm okay with people

1084
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: having an opinion, but let let me give you something

1085
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: else to think about it, think about from a different perspective,

1086
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: different side, or someone who actually did it.

1087
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: I walked this light, I walked this path.

1088
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you what from my experience of what

1089
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: I've been through, and I'm gonna I'm gonna pay this

1090
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: this This is the direction for you, and it's the

1091
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: deal for you. So when you sit here and you

1092
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: go through all these narratives, man, I just I just

1093
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: it just it just it hurts me sometime and pisces

1094
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: me off. I just sometimes I have to recuse myself

1095
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: from a lot of conversations because it's not it's falling

1096
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: on death fears because everybody's fucking stuck on stupid at times.

1097
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: You know, common sense ain't coming anymore, you know what

1098
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know, it's so many levels to

1099
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: this shit. You know what I'm saying. It is I

1100
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: want to have well think I want to hand the baton.

1101
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: I want you to hand the baton off to me

1102
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: because I agree with a lot of what you saying.

1103
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: Guys that have covered this game, and I go in particular,

1104
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: I say, like a Tony Kornhizel or Michael Wilbond, guys

1105
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: that have covered the game. I think they understand the game,

1106
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: but their intricacies unless you've been in that huddle, unless

1107
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: you've been in that locker room in those intense moments,

1108
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: you couldn't possibly know. Now See, they might go by

1109
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: what somebody told them. I'm going by what I know. See,

1110
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: I was in the huddle on fourth down. I was

1111
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: in the huddle on third and six. I was in

1112
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: the locker room when we had lost five straight against Baltimore.

1113
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: So for you to say I think this is what, No,

1114
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you what I think. I'm telling you

1115
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: what I know because I was there, and so why

1116
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: they can write it and they've covered the game and

1117
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: they do a great job. And I'm like, I don't

1118
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: discredit anybody that I've never said, well, you've didn't play

1119
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: the game, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm

1120
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: saying from a standpoint of being in the locker room,

1121
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: being on the field, being on the court, there are

1122
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: certain things that I can speak to that even in

1123
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: your thirty forty fifty years of covering the game right,

1124
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: can't give the fans what I can't having played the

1125
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: game far less than you've ever covered the game. Because

1126
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: I've been in the huddle, I've heard that call and

1127
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: I looked in guy's eyes, and I know who you know,

1128
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: guys that put it what they put in. And I

1129
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: know guys that bullgye because I'm there, I see them

1130
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: all the time. You get to spend open locker room,

1131
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: what thirty minutes five days? You get to spend thirty

1132
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: minutes on maybe Monday, Wednesday, Thursday. I don't think you

1133
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: get to come maybe a little bit on Friday. That's

1134
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: all you get. I get to see that guy from

1135
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: nine to five, five days a week, then on the

1136
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: road on Saturday and Sunday in the locker room.

1137
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: You coming in after the game.

1138
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: You don't get to talk to him before the game,

1139
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: so you don't know what he's thinking or you know,

1140
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: you haven't had a conversation with him before. And so

1141
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: that's why I don't discredit guys that, because there are

1142
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: some guys that do an excellent job and they've talked

1143
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: to some of the greats. But you see them talking

1144
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: to them. Yes, I'm right there with them. I'm right

1145
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: there in the locker room, I'm sitting right next to him,

1146
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: I'm right there in the huddle. And so I can

1147
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: I just think guys that have played the game now,

1148
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: everybody that played the game Matrix can't get on TV

1149
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: and talk about the game and explain it in a way,

1150
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 1: explaining in the way that maybe somebody in the media

1151
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: can talk about of course, but that doesn't mean just

1152
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: because you can articulate your thoughts more or better that

1153
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: you know the game better or understand the game better

1154
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: that hopefully that makes sense to know it? Does it?

1155
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: Does?

1156
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: You know? Like Mike, my guy, you know, he's from

1157
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: a crib here. So like Mike is great. Mike has

1158
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: been on TV for what Yes, Mike's been doing it

1159
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: for fifty years, like it has been on there. Man, I

1160
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: love Mike, you know, And uh, but you said something

1161
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: that that's so dawned. I mean, like you you you're

1162
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: experiencing somebody basically being around somebody twenty four seven and

1163
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: the trenches with people, it's totally different feeling, you know.

1164
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: I used to say this when it was everybody was

1165
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: like how the team feeling. I'm like, man, you got

1166
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: to be in this. You have to be in the

1167
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 2: locker room the seat. I can't.

1168
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: I can't express what be going through right now. Well, well,

1169
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: I feel I can't even say it in words. It's

1170
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of you gotta be able to

1171
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: feel it. You gotta see it. You gotta be sitting

1172
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: next to me, and you gotta be feeling that heat

1173
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: coming from my from my teammate next to me in

1174
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: the list on both sides, and we just like we

1175
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: ain't got ain't say nothing to him. I'm looking at it,

1176
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: my my, my guy. We about to go to war

1177
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: out here. And it's like it's a whole different mindset,

1178
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: you know. And I think, Uh, it's so many different

1179
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: levels to this cause I think it was it's so

1180
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: many great players that played this game in the NBA.

1181
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: It's a great for turning there man. And uh, and

1182
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: I take my hair to the OG's who paid the

1183
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: way for me. Man, I really do. I all them guys.

1184
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: They don't get enough credit. Man, they don't get enough fowers. Man,

1185
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: we don't talk about enough. And I'm I just it's

1186
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: just sad because every year feel like we losing we

1187
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: losing some icons in this game. And you know, and

1188
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm forty seven now, I just had a birthday last

1189
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: week and I'm lisitting here.

1190
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: I just I just gotta take my house to these guys. Man.

1191
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: I want I think all the oldies that paid away

1192
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: from me.

1193
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: Man, I'm truly blessed to being the positions I'm man,

1194
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: I don't take none of this for granted. It's kind

1195
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: of like, you know, me trying to go sit into

1196
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: a newsroom and try to tell them how to create

1197
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: a story or write.

1198
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: A narrative or bro.

1199
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll watched the game, but I can't craft it

1200
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: like you could. And so, like I said, I don't

1201
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: discredit anybody because I don't think I can do see what, Oh, Joe,

1202
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: you know you and I have had this conversation. I

1203
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: don't feel that I can do your job better than you.

1204
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: I just feel I can do my job better than

1205
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: you can do your job. Now, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong,

1206
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: But that's how I feel I don't think I could

1207
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: do my job do your job better than you. I

1208
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: just feel I could do my job better than you

1209
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: could do your You deduce from that whatever you want, right,

1210
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to discredit you from your job that.

1211
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: Whatever the case may be, a cash here ain't nobody

1212
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: could be no casth y'all. Ben gave them people. They

1213
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: give me a dollar, I give them ten back. They're coming,

1214
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: hey all the numbers and hey, I ain't got.

1215
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: Time for that.

1216
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: I get fust spready, But I understand that people have

1217
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: a job to do. And I think it's it's easy

1218
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: to say because they won without Jason Tatum, they're not

1219
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: winning a championship without Jayson Tatum.

1220
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: You think that?

1221
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: What do you think the odds are, Oh, Joe, they

1222
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: win a championship, They're gonna win the NBA Championship without JT.

1223
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, so, if that's not the case, they're not

1224
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: better without it, because the odds are they are a

1225
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: better team. They do you think they would have won

1226
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: the championship last year without j T? Absolutely not, absolutely not.

1227
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: And as matter of fact, since you pose that question too,

1228
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: based on you know, and Kevin Durant going going back

1229
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: and forth this from just one game on what happens

1230
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 3: if they come back in this series and they get

1231
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 3: it done without Jason Tatum? What happens if they get

1232
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: to the Eastern Commerce obviously get to the Eastern Conferce

1233
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 3: finals without Jason Tatum?

1234
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 4: What happened if they do get a chip without Jason Tatum?

1235
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: Not?

1236
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 2: What does that say?

1237
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 4: Not possible?

1238
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 3: No, even with the way Jaylen Brown played right, No

1239
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: in preaching, Okay, okay.

1240
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: Listen, I said that same thing, Hotel I saw. I

1241
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: was talking from my guys last night about that. I

1242
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: was like, I just said, what a hypothetical. You know,

1243
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: it ain't many teams in the NBA history ever came

1244
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: down came back from a three to one jeposit but

1245
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: just hypothetical hypotheticals.

1246
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a hypothetical.

1247
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: Just where he's going with a hypothetical, say, for instance,

1248
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: they win tomorrow, Boston won, were they able to get

1249
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: able to get back home? Because at the end of

1250
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: the day, do you know the rope the uh you know,

1251
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I luck the next I do.

1252
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brush is a savage out there that closer.

1253
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: But but with that being said, though, the supporting cast

1254
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: only had one game in the series so far that

1255
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: they all up the score with twenty points one game.

1256
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: So like, you know, you don't know what the supporting

1257
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: cast gonna do. You know, Jayon Brust is they head

1258
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: a snake over there. And you know a lot of

1259
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: these teams are one injury away from not doing anything.

1260
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 2: Am I right? Okay? So, but Boston is one team

1261
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: that has listen. They they have they have enough to

1262
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: still do it.

1263
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: And I'm saying if everybody show up though, if in

1264
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: other words, Kate show, if I takes if I takeos

1265
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: reasoning and I listened to you with if so, if

1266
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors had won that series, that means

1267
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: they're better without Steph Curry.

1268
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 4: No ship, that's different.

1269
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: Remove the best player off the team, just hold on.

1270
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: Just the supporting cast, uh in Golden State is not

1271
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: even close to what they have.

1272
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: And about Jimmy Butler, play out, Jimmy, you don't we

1273
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: play out Jimmy.

1274
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 2: He's taking too He's taking the team two teams to the.

1275
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: NBA five and he hadn't had I'm just saying, I'm

1276
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: just I'm just throwing about that. We just haven't health

1277
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: the conversation now since we're doing what ips Yeah, but no,

1278
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: but they're done now, so they're done. But but go

1279
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: look at the roster though, so go go go Boston

1280
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: starting goes go roster right now, top seven players there,

1281
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: so five's top five now because take them is out now, so.

1282
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: They're their their current roster right now.

1283
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: Look at their lineup, though, tell me what you think

1284
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: about their line compared to Air Boss line up. If

1285
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: they're doing what they're supposed to do without Jason Tatum,

1286
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: their their best six players aren't better than the mixed

1287
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: best six players.

1288
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: You don't think so? Hell know? With Bronson, Cat Bridges, Heart,

1289
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: who's the other guy? Oh G I love New York.

1290
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: I love them. And then you got and you got Mitchell,

1291
00:57:58,760 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: Robinson and McBride.

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Speaker 1: So I take the If I take the Knicks seven

1293
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: best players minus Tatum, and so the Knicks seven best players,

1294
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: and you to give me the Celtics seven best players

1295
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: minus Tatum, I'll take the Knicks. Okay, I'm gonna see

1296
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, kp ain't showed up yet in this playoffs yet.

1297
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: He ain't gonna show up, so let's stop looking for him.

1298
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: He's seventy three of invisible. So see, I'm just a

1299
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: firm believer out of I this saw these guys have all.

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00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: You got all, you got two, you got two guys, Well,

1301
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: you got three All star pedigree guys on Boston Celtics

1302
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: step that they're either a former All Star or not.

1303
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You only only current All

1304
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: Star on the team is Jaylen Brunton right now. But

1305
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: but Derek White could have easily been as what about

1306
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: what about Cat hold hold on? Cat Cat was also

1307
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: but they got too, That's what I'm saying. New York

1308
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: got two. Yeah, Boston, Boston, they got two current, But

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00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Boston has one current and two former Jue Holiday yes

1310
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: and uh for thinking so what that being said? But

1311
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: then uh uh, Deck White could have easily been one

1312
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: this year. I'm saying, yeah, that was our hold for

1313
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: the All Star too. They'll make it one time. He

1314
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: has been an All Star. Yeah, he's been All Star

1315
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: so the older but also as pedigry does play and

1316
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: have some leverage and god what hell uh uh uh

1317
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: Metrix Hell, I was a twelfth grader. Long time for him.

1318
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: I was a former twelfth grader. Oh Joe, it ain't

1319
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: over over. Yeah, over tis over. Remember this is all hypothetical,

1320
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: but anything is possible.

1321
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: It ain't over. We know that, so we do that

1322
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: a lot though we oh Joe, we do that a lot.

1323
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: We see a guy, uh and football go down with

1324
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: their better team without him.

1325
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 2: No they not, no, no, hell, they died right somebody.

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: The fact they want to game one time where they

1327
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: want to game without Chase, well that means they're better team.

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00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're talking.

1329
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: You talked about how Jason Tatum is about to make

1330
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: his fourth consecutive All NBA teams deserve you You mean

1331
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: to tell me a team is better without an all

1332
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: our first team All NBA selection?

1333
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: You know, you know it makes you question it though

1334
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 3: UNC and Sean, you look at the way they played

1335
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: without him in that one game. It makes it raises

1336
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 3: the question and the possibility of the MAXI being better

1337
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 3: without them because they need.

1338
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: What happens, oh yo, what happens when the original teacher

1339
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: is not when you get a substitute, Well, it's not

1340
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: the same, So now you do things differently. I believe

1341
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: the Nicks let the Knicks let their guard down. The

1342
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 1: Knigs like, well they ain't got j T. They ain't

1343
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna be ready to play, and they underestimated them. I

1344
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: bet they don't make that same mistake. I bet they

1345
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: don't make that mistake in the MSG.

1346
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna see well Hope not. You know what I'm saying.

1347
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: But you know, listen, man, when you when you are here, man,

1348
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: we can't One of the things I learned a long

1349
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: time ago. You know this, The one thing you can

1350
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: control is what your effort. You can't control, Yeah, the

1351
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: ball going to Hope not, so you listen. You can

1352
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: control you can only going in the hoop. So like, heymen,

1353
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: listen man, people feeling that pressure and listen that I

1354
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: know Garden's gonna be rocking them all. You know what

1355
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Oh see, I kind of what I was

1356
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: in that. I ain't never been to a playoff game

1357
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: in uh in New York.

1358
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: I would love to be.

1359
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: There, but I got did uh did acho did not

1360
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: see the three games they lost with Jason Tatum, so

1361
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: you better without him.

1362
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: But you lost three games with it, but they were

1363
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: he had forty two. They up.

1364
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: We're not even witt Listen, they're not winning. They're not

1365
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: what they are without Jason Tables. He's one of the

1366
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: best players in the NBA by far easily. That's not

1367
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: a question. It's hard you could let's just say he's

1368
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: a top ten player. How's the team better without a

1369
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: top ten player? Okay, you go in the gate. See,

1370
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: and that faked the thing. Sometimes. What happened Matrix and

1371
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: Ojoe is that a team will win a game or

1372
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: two without their best player, and people starting to believe, well, hey,

1373
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: we can get rid of him if we can get

1374
01:01:59,160 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: something back.

1375
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: No you can. Ain't. Don't do that.

1376
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: No, no, we so long. Okay, now, no, I'm not

1377
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: gonna do with that. I'm gonna tell you something now.

1378
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: So like, put this way, if Jaylen so Jylen Brown

1379
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: was out and Jason Tatan was playing right now and

1380
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: they did the same thing, would you would you still

1381
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. No, because I think they need

1382
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: both of them. Because when they when Kevin Durant became available,

1383
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: they offered Jalen Brown and Jerrick white Is some draft

1384
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: picks for Kevin Durant. They didn't offer Jason Tatum. Yeah,

1385
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: but I mean, listen, kat my guy, you know what

1386
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But like I'm just saying because right now,

1387
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: Jylen Brown took over the role that Tatum does, did

1388
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: he not in his last Yes? So, so he became

1389
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: the main, main facilitator and did a great job at it.

1390
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: He never get it, so yes, so he was dudo. Okay, okay,

1391
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: hold on, did you see the way he's been playing

1392
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: this so look, So Tatum last year was dedicated to

1393
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: point guard, per se, That's what they said. Last year

1394
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: they let him meet the main ball handler. So when

1395
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 1: you watch them play, they go a lot of times

1396
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: they go tip for Tag, they go, they will come

1397
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: down and shoot.

1398
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: The Brown come down in the shoot at times. You

1399
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yes, that's all.

1400
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: But now you don't have to go tip for Tag.

1401
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: Now you got you got him designated that spot right now. Listen,

1402
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you there, it ain't over tes overweight.

1403
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they can listen. I listen.

1404
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: I would love to see New York's go do all

1405
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: the way I wanted to go.

1406
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to go see I actually seven, you know,

1407
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, you know, hey, it's been some great basketball,

1408
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1409
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: So, but at the end of anything is possible. I

1410
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: don't put nothing. It's like I said, it's all hypothetical though.

1411
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: Remember we're just talking about but it's hard to come

1412
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: back from a three to one deficit though. But the

1413
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: first two games, though, honestly they could have easily won

1414
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: though they fucked them ships off.

1415
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: They did. They fucked them ships off.

1416
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: So we sit here and we keep acting like you

1417
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying Boston is one of the things

1418
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: that Boston had and the recent was able to prevail

1419
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: last year that most people don't.

1420
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: They have seven three and D guys.

1421
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,479
Speaker 1: They got one one down with the injury last game,

1422
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: they still got those six three and the guys.

1423
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 2: A lot of teams don't have three in D guys.

1424
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: They did.

1425
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got everybody that's starting to switch everything now. Yeah,

1426
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying though, So like it's it's

1427
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: it's not over, tis over, and you just don't know.

1428
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: Maybe kath three is due for a big game tomorrow.

1429
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: The volume