1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. Our compatriot 6 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: Ben is on a very secret mission out in the 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: Pacific somewhere. Uh. He won't tell you about it, neither 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: will we, because we'll never learn about it on a dinghy. 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: Maybe I think he's on a dinghy. A team may 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: be involved. Somehow, I feel he's on a vessel of 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: higher technology. But hey, guess what. We're also joined by 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: our superproducer Alexis, code named Doc Holiday Jackson. And you 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: are you, You are here, and that makes this stuff 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. Slow clap, slow clap 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: from Matt. God, that was horrible and I was sorry. 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Oh my god, that was ethically good. 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: That's so hard. And Ben does it like it's nothing, 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: every incantation the way he does it, you know what 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Like y'all maybe didn't hear that, because Alexis 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: is amazing and can really chop up voices really well. 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I did that in like seven takes, twelve takes. That 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: was insane. Okay, yeah, we're here, like we said, you're you, 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: and this is a listener male episode. That means we 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: get to hear from the best part of this show, 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: which is you. I'm very excited about the things we're 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: going to talk about today. Some things that seem very 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: very strange in the beginning but may have a pretty 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: common explanation, but then lead to something a little more 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: sinister that they I don't know who they would be 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: besides bacteria. We'll get to it. Also, look at my 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: shirt if you're watching the video. I've got a shirt 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: of Mothman on and I think that character it is 33 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: gonna come into this show in somewhere or my absolute 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: favorite he Man villain Mothman. Yeah. No, I mean, I 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: will say when Ben and I years ago went on 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: a road rally trip for making videos for the How 37 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Stuff Works channel back in the day, we went to 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: Point Pleasant, which is the kind of hub for sightings 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: of the Mothman. That's where that T shirt came from. 40 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: We got it for you there and they have this 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: bizarre sculpture of the moth Man and he's got like 42 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: a nine pack of abs, sort of like a he 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Man action figure, very ripped. Um. It actually kind of 44 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: reminds me there is a human character named maybe be 45 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: Man or something like that. He's got like big old 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: like eyes, like like lensed kind of eyes. And that's 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: what the Mothman looks like too. And that uh in 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: that sculpture you heard it here, Mothman the sexiest of 49 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: the cryptids, at least in the app department. I don't 50 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Oh, he's got good he's got 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: good gams too, man like, he's rocking, kind of a 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: he Man type, fuzzy in cloth. I mean, it's a 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: whole the whole thing. I could go first, since we're 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: already talking about sexy moth Man. You got man. This 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: one comes from Ziggy, which is this individual's work nickname. Um. 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: They also lead the email by saying that, uh, don't 57 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: paunt might be another good nickname, not DuPont. Get it, 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: don't paunt as in bad on you du pont for 59 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, all your chemicals and whatnot. Get it? I 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: get it too. Uh So let's see. Ziggy brought to 61 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: us some news of some recent sightings of the sexiest 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: cryptid uh to ever crypt uh. And it goes something 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: like this, just so I could use the code name 64 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: don't punt. I wish I were a DuPont is the 65 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: subject of the email, just so I could use the 66 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: code name don't paunt. There's the whole story. And here 67 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: goes the email. Also something I'm not sure you've talked about, 68 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: but here in Chicago there's a moth man who flies 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: around O'Hare Airport. UM. I didn't really think much about 70 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: the story until I took a flight recently. I always 71 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: parked out at Economy Lot G and take an airport 72 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: transit bus into the terminals. Maybe because it was pre 73 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: dawn that made me think of the moth man. So 74 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: I decided to ask the driver, a somewhat elderly woman, 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: about it. And she said, baby girl, I've seen lights 76 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: that stay in one spot and a man with wings 77 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: fly over the parking lot. Those smartphones, smart houses, smart cars, 78 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: it's all too much for me. But that winged man 79 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: has been around since I started in nineteen eighty nine. WHOA, yeah, 80 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: it's amazing. I love that. I love the wisdom there 81 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: from from this elderly cab driver. UM. She goes on 82 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: to say I took it as her way of saying 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: she had seen The moth Man. Anyway, I included a 84 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: link and just wondering what you think. You guys can 85 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: use my nickname from work, Ziggy if you want to 86 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: shout out the show I'm finishing up. That'd be cool 87 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: power book for Force on Stars. UM. I'm assuming this 88 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: is a television program of some sort and the Ziggy 89 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: is perhaps a grip or works in some aspect of 90 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: the film industry. That's awesome. Somebody else I know works 91 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: in the film industry. Uh, I can't think of who 92 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: it is. Doc. No, I don't know somebody. So the 93 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: article UM initially is from Uh, let's see, this is 94 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: like a local news It's in local radio station in Lansing, 95 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: Michigan ninety seven point five now FM UM, and it's 96 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: Lake Michigan Mothman. How many sightings reported since? As it 97 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: turns out, kind of a lot um, much more than 98 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: than I think either of us realized. UM. And the 99 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: reportings date all the way back to nineteen fifty seven, 100 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: so you know there is the remember the film the 101 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: Mothman prophecies I think Richard Gear might have had something 102 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: to do with that. But it was this, and I 103 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: believe Matt if I'm not mistaken. Wasn't there an X 104 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Files involving the Mothman? There is a lot. A lot 105 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: of those stories have to do with a very specifig 106 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: bridge collapse events. Yeah, the Mothman prophesied in some way 107 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: or Ingrid Cold was involved in some way. Yeah, spoilers, 108 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: I guess. Sorry, Definitely check out the movie if you 109 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: get a chance, for sure. I mean, so, okay, let's see. 110 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: So we've got on February twenty feet so we know 111 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: that they go back a long, long way. So the 112 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: question is, like, are there many Mothman? Is a single 113 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: Mothman that's somehow like immortal or at least has a 114 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: very very very long lifespan. Um. I mean, I guess 115 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: that's not he'd be quite old at this point. But 116 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: maybe he's a geriatric Mothman at this point. Um. But 117 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: there have been quite a few sightings in the Chicago 118 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: Land area. I love that, by the way, just the 119 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: idea of Chicago Land It's always kind of tickled me. 120 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, February there was a sighting near O'Hair. A 121 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: lot of these apparently take place around O'Hare Airport in Chicago. UM. 122 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: This one involves a woman in West Englewood, Chicago seeing 123 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: a quote big black birdman from the backyard of her 124 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: apartment building, and her son supposedly photographed the the sighting. UM. 125 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that we have those uh those images though, UM, 126 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: but that that is one of the reports. And by 127 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: the way, a lot of this UH this chronology, I 128 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: highly recommend checking this out. There is a timeline of 129 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: the Lake Michigan mothman sightings UH dating back to seven 130 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: from a website called singular fourteen dot com, which appears 131 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: to be sort of a paranormal UH and kind of 132 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: weird science, weird news type site. UM. Very very cool article. 133 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Highly recommend you checking that out. But I'm gonna go 134 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: with the radio station UM version that I mentioned, which 135 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: kind of compiles it. And we're talking more about the 136 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: recent sightings. Next, we have February twenty six of UM. 137 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: This is another airport sighting and this was right around 138 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: the time airports were really starting to shut down because 139 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen pandemic UM, which according to this site 140 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: here says, gave the mothman free rein to fly around 141 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: the r Hair International Airport. That's that's what four ten says, 142 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: um quote. Chicago paranormal investigator Manuel Navarette reports a strange 143 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: flying creature with quote membranous wings in the area. All 144 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: this checks out in terms of like what this this 145 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: scryptid is supposed to have looked like. Yeah, it definitely 146 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: matches up the conceptual art that you see all around 147 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: as well, just you know, people either jotting down what 148 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: they think they've seen, or people who are just inspired 149 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: by the Mothman legend or crypted story that the wings 150 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 1: sound exactly like that. It's really interesting though, because I 151 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: think the thing that struck me about this story is 152 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: the sightings. You know, for many, many, many years, we're 153 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: all based in and around Point Pleasant, West Virginia exactly, 154 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: and it's about a seven hour drive, just depending on 155 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: which roads you take and how fast you're driving, how 156 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: far the flight is it as the as the Mothman flies. Oh, 157 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many what mock speed the Mothman 158 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: gets up to, but I imagine that takes a while. 159 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: They're probably not going seventy right, I would think not. 160 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: Now I gotta drop into the chat for you and 161 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: doc this incredible image of the the sculpture that is 162 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: in downtown Point Pleasant, right across from the Mothman Museum, 163 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: which is where that that amazing shirt that you're wearing 164 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: came from. And uh Off, Mike, doc Holiday just alerted 165 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: us to the fact that the Mothman is featured in 166 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: the video game Fallout seventy six, which one that I 167 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: never got into. It's sort of more of like an 168 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: open world version of the Fallout universe, and I kind 169 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: of got a little board and I never made it 170 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: to this part, but it does take place in West Virginia. Look, 171 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to correct you here, NOL. Fallout is 172 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: in its elf as a series in open world Okay, 173 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: it's more of an mm O that and I had 174 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: the same experience with so I I got the Morrow 175 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: Wind extension of Elder Scrolls online. It's the same thing 176 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: for me. It's like, I love this game when it's 177 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: an open world, I go explorer. But when it's like this, 178 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: not like this, um, but here's the thing now, it 179 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: almost feels and I think this might be the case, uh, 180 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: that we're talking about two completely separate Mothman here, because 181 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: this timeline that the singular Fortune website lays out dating 182 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: back to seven it's all in and around Illinois. Um. 183 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: Point Pleasant isn't even mentioned on here once. So I 184 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: think the Mothman of Point Pleasant, that is the most known, 185 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: most well known of the mothman is its own thing. 186 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: And then this is a separate one. They're calling this 187 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: one the Lake Michigan Mothman. I don't buy it. I 188 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,479 Speaker 1: think it's the same. It's the same group, same creatures. 189 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: They they fly from the lake for some reason to 190 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: where they you know, stay for the most part in 191 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: West Virginia. I'm I'm joking. Of course, then there's no 192 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: way to prove or disprove that right now, right because 193 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: we don't have enough evidence that this thing or these creatures, 194 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: this creature even exists. But uh my goodness, it is 195 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: fun to imagine, right Yeah, No, it totally is like 196 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: could it be the same species and there just happens 197 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: to be, you know, a couple of different areas where 198 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: they are thriving right now or somehow survived, you know whatever, 199 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: however long it took for them to mutate and evolve 200 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: into whatever this new species is that we've just never seen, 201 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: or are people just misidentifying large birds because there are 202 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: a lot of large birds that fly around in those parts. 203 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: I know, eagles are a thing, box are thing. Those 204 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: generally aren't that large, but some owls there there are 205 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: several owl species that I know we've specifically pointed to 206 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: on the show before as being misidentified as the mothman. 207 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: And you know, we we've also mentioned it before in 208 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: the show how at night when something huge with wings 209 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: like that is flying around above you just how uneasy 210 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: a feeling that gives you. Yeah, And then the point 211 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: Pleasant Mothman dates back to a headline the Point Pleasant 212 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: Register around the time of World War Two that says 213 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: couples see man size bird, creature something, and that was 214 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: you know a lot of times, we know with UFO 215 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: sightings in certain areas, there's a certain confirmation bias that 216 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: comes with reporting around something, right when when all of 217 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: a sudden something becomes a thing, everyone starts looking for 218 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: that thing and potentially seeing that thing and other things 219 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: that maybe do not actually exist or on a line. 220 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: So I do think it's interesting that they are seven 221 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: hours apart, and they're clearly completely separate. I don't think 222 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: I was aware of the of the Lake Michigan Mothman 223 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: at all um, but the Point Pleasant Mothman reports go 224 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: basically as far back so to me, I mean, a 225 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: seven hour drive is is only probably like a what 226 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: like a three hour flight, two hour flights something like that. 227 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: Again depends on how fast you're going, man, And it 228 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: just means like maybe there's something there, Maybe there's maybe 229 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: there's nesting, or maybe it's like a family or I 230 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not being a jerk, I really am 231 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: kind of conjecture about what, because you know, it's so 232 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: many reports that describes something so similar that who knows, 233 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: maybe maybe there is something to it. I'm with you 234 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,479 Speaker 1: that it could very well be some of the wildlife 235 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: that is around there that that could be seen as 236 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: having leathery wings, or being in a certain light or 237 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: a certain lack of lights. Your your mind does kind 238 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: of tend to go wild. But if you're into this, 239 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: you could definitely head over to Point Pleasant where they 240 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: have made much more of a tourist destination out of 241 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: this whole thing. They've got the statue, they've got the museum, 242 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: and this year UM the festival returned the Mothman Festival. 243 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: UM I believe this is an article back from April 244 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: UH and it said that it was set to return 245 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: to Point Pleasant, West Virginia, and ah here it is. Uh. 246 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: The festival is supposedly on this year and it's not 247 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: until September ninete, so keep an eye on that. Hopefully 248 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: the Delta Varian doesn't go screwing things up, because that 249 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of fun. And apparently the original 250 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: um Uh festival back in two thousand two is what 251 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: led to the statue and what led to the Mothman Museum. 252 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: Then it was a really charming little area down there. 253 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: I highly highly recommend checking it out, even if you 254 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: just passed through. It looks like they have an old 255 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: movie theater called the State Theater Um where they show 256 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: Mothman related you know, documentaries and kind of like schlucky 257 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: horror type films, and it just looks like a good 258 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: time for adults and kids alike. So check it out. 259 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: And just just wanted to wait, we're not going to 260 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: read them all, but this chronology of the Lake Michigan 261 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: moth Man there's like twenty plus sightings in alone, which 262 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: is I think was the whole impetus for the story. 263 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: So If you want to read more details about them, 264 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: check out that website five now FM, Lansing's number one 265 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: hit music station, or you can visit Singular four t 266 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: N dot com fo r T e a N dot 267 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: com and look for the timeline of the Chicago flying 268 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: humanoid sightings so far. One. Do you think those sightings 269 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: in had anything to do with the quarantine and people 270 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: being at home more and maybe hanging out on their 271 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: backyards looking up? Yes I do, Matt, Yes I do. 272 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: We're going to pop to a quick sponsor break and 273 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: then we'll be back with some more listener mail. Yes, 274 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: we are back in the speaking of menacing things flying around, 275 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: there's a stinking when these tiger mosquitoes or whatever they're called, 276 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: the ones that are striped and hurt really badly. It's 277 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: in my office right now and it is flying around 278 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: me as I'm attempting to record. You have a swater? 279 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: Do you have a swater? I do not have a swatter. 280 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: I've got these two hands. Those are those are deadlier 281 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: than any swater I've ever seen. But you gotta you 282 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: gotta act with precision. Oh man, it's I just hate 283 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: that feeling. Well, and there's one other thing that's been 284 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: flying around this guys, I didn't even think about this 285 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: when we were talking about it. Noll uh. Did you 286 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: see the reports that the rocket man, the jet pack 287 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: guy is back in Los Angeles, the rocketeer. Right at 288 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: the end of July, there were several reports from pilots saying, hey, 289 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: there's like somebody, I think it's a jet pack guy 290 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: flying around again, because there were reports and I do 291 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: remember that guy up and uh yeah, so this it's 292 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: happening again, you guys, the jet pack guy. How long 293 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: until their jet packs everywhere? How long until I can 294 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: get a jet pack? We were promised, we were promised 295 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: jet pack X. We were And you know what, I 296 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: think that dream may be coming true very soon. Can't 297 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: be here, can't wait for it. Okay, so let's jump 298 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: to a whole different story here from someone who called 299 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: in somebody named Luke. It looked up my name is Luke. 300 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: I have a bit of a mini story that I 301 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: wanted to share with y'all. It's about top water. Basically, um, 302 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: I was blowing some water for pasta not too long ago, 303 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: and uh, I overdid the water. It's kind of oversingged 304 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: it and it left me like with this weird white 305 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: like a powdered milk type of touch shirt in the 306 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: pot that I was using, And uh, I could really 307 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: comprehend what the hell was At the time, I didn't 308 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: want to overthink it, but it was like should I 309 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: use this water? Anyway? I ended up using the water. 310 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm hungry, so I'm gonna just do this. 311 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: So not only that, but I have a humaniflier and uh, 312 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: basically it left the same sort of residue on all 313 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: my band equipment, on like conpoles, like TV everything weird. 314 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: It's like a weird I don't know, same sort of 315 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: things like a Ashley ashtray, white soot whatever, and it's 316 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: something even dust. You can wipe it off with your 317 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: senior but it won't rub off like that. It's so 318 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: weird to explain. But anyway, I wanted to see what 319 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: you guys to say, what's up with the water tree man, 320 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: What's what's what's going on? A little too much chemicals 321 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: going on, a little too stuff for me to handle? 322 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: A stuff I don't know. I want you guys do 323 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: the research, but you know what you think about it. Anyway, 324 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: Oh Man Luke, thank you so much for giving us 325 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: a call. Oh man, what do you think initially? How 326 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: what's your reaction to that? I mean, at one time 327 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: was boiling some eggs, you know, like making some hard 328 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: boiled eggs, and like a dummy, I just forgot about 329 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: them entirely, and the entire water from the pot evaporated off, 330 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: leaving just these like weird singed eggs, uh, which obviously 331 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: I threw away um. But on the bottom of the 332 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: pot there was kind of like a white chucky residue 333 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: a little bit, and part of me wonders if that 334 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: is a product of a non stick type situation that's 335 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: getting overheated by direct heat perhaps and creating some sort 336 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: of byproduct. I don't know. I didn't really think about 337 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: it until Luke's message came through, and it kind of 338 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: gave me a little aha moment because I did. I 339 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: just assumed that it was some some product of like 340 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: the nonstick or the eggs being singed and creating some 341 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: sort of like ashy substance. But it definitely was something 342 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: along those lines. Uh. Never really thought about the humiter 343 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: fire aspect of it, though, what about you? I mean, 344 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: I could see how maybe if there was some sort 345 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: of you know, fluoridation in the water. Obviously, we know 346 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: that's a thing, or other chemicals in the water that 347 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: maybe boiling it at a certain temperature could separate some 348 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: of that out. Perhaps, I don't know, I'm not a 349 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: not a scientist, but just just talking out loud, thinking 350 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: out loud. No, I love those thoughts because it's much 351 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: many of the same ones that I had when I 352 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: initially heard this message from Luke. There are a lot 353 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: of chemicals in the water, you know, especially if you're 354 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: just thinking about modern practices of cleaning water in some 355 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: kind of treatment plant that is probably you know, something 356 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: that your local area does, your municipality or your county, 357 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: wherever you live. It doesn't matter where you live, whether 358 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: in the United States or somewhere else, there's probably a 359 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: water treatment facility not that far from where you live, 360 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of the processes that they do to 361 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: clean the water is you know, includes adding chemicals not 362 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 1: only to make the water cleaner, to get rid of 363 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: some of the micro organisms that do just live in water. 364 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: Especially because we're recycling the poop water, you guys, remember 365 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: that that's what we're doing, that's what we're drinking but 366 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: it's not that bad because we've figured out how to 367 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: do it pretty dang well and pretty safely. The creepiest 368 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: stuff comes in when you think about the intentional fluoridation 369 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: of water, and if you've gone down any conspiracy rabbit holes, 370 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: you may have gone down that one where you do 371 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: know that it's a fact that fluoride in one form 372 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: or another is in much of the water. In some countries, 373 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: it's banned completely as an additive. In other countries, like 374 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: the United States, depending on the state, it's just regular 375 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: old thing. So you may think, well, this, this is 376 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: like extra super fluoride that's going on in my water. 377 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw water on this theory. Wow, I'm sorry. Um. 378 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: In a lot of ways, the biggest one is that 379 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: this is a very common thing. What you're experiencing luke 380 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: is very common, and it's not something you necessarily need 381 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: to worry about, at least from a health perspective. So 382 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: let's jump to the water that was boiling that ended 383 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: up having a chalky white residue. There is a thing 384 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: that occurs when the contents of water once boiled and 385 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: and just once it's hit by heat for a sustained 386 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: amount of time if it begins to evaporate, if that 387 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: water has a large or a high mineral content, then 388 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: some of that H two boils off and you'll just 389 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: be left with those minerals, especially if it boils all 390 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: the way down right. Kind of like your situation, know 391 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: what you dealt with, but in your case, you had 392 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: eggs as an extra variable, so you're not really sure 393 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: what it could be. In Luke's case, it's very likely 394 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: that it's what would be considered hard water. Was wondering 395 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: about that water that just has more more a couple 396 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: of substances in it that is higher in proportion to 397 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: water that would be considered soft. To guess maybe calcium. 398 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: Oh oh man, you're you're good at this. Noal, Yes, 399 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: Calcium is definitely one of the primary things that you're 400 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: going to be dealing with when you've got hard water. 401 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: You can go to a website called compound kim dot 402 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: com c H E. M. It may not be the 403 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: best source, but they've got a great little infographic where 404 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: you can learn specifically about this. Uh you're looking at calcium, magnesium, sulfate, 405 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: and bicarbonate and or bicarbonate. These are the primary substances 406 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: that you're going to be dealing with minerals that end 407 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: up building up. And you may have heard this term before, 408 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: which is kind of new to me. I've never really 409 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: heard it used in this way. But lime scale yeah, yeah, 410 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: reports of its shortened to just scale um even and 411 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: being referred to as a pretty common thing. It can 412 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: collect in like electric kettles, for example, you can get 413 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: like residue build up of this stuff that you maybe 414 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: want to clean over time, but all all signs points 415 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: who are not being particularly harmful in any way. Or 416 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: let's just say you reuse a tea kettle that could 417 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: build your boiling water over and over and over and 418 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: over again and then emptying it out. It could build 419 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: up in that too, But an electric kettle in particular 420 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: because of the method of the of the heating element 421 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: that's used. That is correct. That is correct. Sorry, is 422 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: that Billy medicine? I'm not sure what that is. What 423 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: that is? I think it might be a little more 424 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: like the church lady from sn L. Yeah, I can't gosh, 425 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember what it is. Oh well, oh well, 426 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that alone. You know what it is, 427 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: you've heard it before, I'm sorry, it just came out 428 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: of my brain. So, yes, those are some of the 429 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: primary ways in which you're going to encounter this in 430 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: your life. The thing that you should know for it 431 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: is that you can you can use certain methods to 432 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: quote soften your water. A lot of the times it 433 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: has to do with a filtration system of one sort 434 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: or another that you can you can either you can 435 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: apply really anywhere at your water source, whether it's directly 436 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: as it's coming into your house, whether it's at the 437 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: tap when you're you know, opening up to put water 438 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: through it's going through that filter, or even a lot 439 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 1: of refrigerators and other appliances that use water have some 440 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: kind of filtration system A lot of times that will 441 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: take care of the situation to get rid of, uh, 442 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: some of the hardness of your water. Let's soften that 443 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: water up, you guys. Um. But you know, there are 444 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: other schools of thought that these minerals are actually good 445 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: to be in your water, and you shouldn't be consuming 446 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: a certain amount of these. There are other studies that 447 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: show if you over consume these minerals it could be 448 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: potentially bad for you. I'm not a scientist, I'm not 449 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: gonna tell you exactly what is right and wrong here, 450 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: but the general consensus is that it is not harmful 451 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: in any real meaningful way if you're just consuming that water. 452 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: I will say, Um, there are some pretty tried in 453 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: true ways of getting rid of the stuff, you know, 454 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: long term solutions for you know, cleaning it once it's 455 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: kind of built up a bit, as in the electric 456 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: kettle example that I gave and pop vila dot com. 457 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: Remember poll from this such a handy guy. Um, he says, 458 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: fill the kettle halfway up with a solution of equal 459 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: parts cold water and white vinegar um, which is a 460 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: natural descaling agent. Um. You can also use citric acid, 461 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: and then you want to add the juice of one 462 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: fresh lemon or lime, top it off with enough cold 463 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: water to reach the halfway point of the kettle, and 464 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: let it boil. Uh. Once the water is boiling, you 465 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: turn it off, um, and then you kind of let 466 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: it sit for about thirty minutes to an hour and 467 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: then give it a rinse and you should be good 468 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: to go. You might have to do it a couple 469 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: of times if you have a significant build up of 470 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: the stuff, Oh for sure, for sure, And you can 471 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: do that to your faucets, to anywhere you find this 472 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: lime scale stuff. Hey, this is a kind of thing 473 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: that like I bet our parents knew like really well 474 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: how to take care of it and what to do 475 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: about it. And you can get the I remember specific 476 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: products called like lime away or lime something. Um, it's 477 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: just until you have to pretend to be an adult 478 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: and like live alone in your own place, you just 479 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: kind of forge forget it all. That's at least my situation. 480 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: Maybe you have a different situation. No, I mean I 481 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: didn't learn how to wash dishes until I was, you know, 482 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: out of in college. Um. I will say this is 483 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: something that you'll definitely see around um shower heads that 484 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: have not been cleaned for a while, And it can 485 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: actually look a little bit greenish to it get over time, 486 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: it can get kind of like a green almost the 487 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: way corrosion on a car battery looks. It kind of 488 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: looks like that, or around Fawcet's or even like any 489 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: any plumbing fixtures. So yeah, it's definitely a thing not 490 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: particularly you know, bad for you, but it could be 491 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: something that maybe as it builds up, might not be 492 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: the best just just because it's cold. It could probably 493 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: just attract bacteria, you know. And then it's basically just 494 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: like something that you want to just clean. Yes, you 495 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: want to clean it because it it isn't great for 496 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: your again, retile your appliances, all your stuff in your apartment, 497 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: at your house wherever you live. Uh. But the I 498 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: want to jump noll if we can to the humidifier situation. 499 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: That feels very different. And what I want to do 500 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: is take one more quick break to hear word from 501 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: our sponsor, and then we'll come back and talk about humidifiers. 502 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: And there really is some stuff that maybe they don't 503 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: want you to know. We'll be right back and we've returned. 504 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: I hope that ad was not for a humidifier company. 505 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: If it was, well, this is gonna be hilarious. The 506 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: part of Luke's message where he says he's got a 507 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: humidifier in his room or is somewhere in his house. 508 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of equipment and stuff in that room. 509 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: And when he lets his humidifier run after a while, 510 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: there's this same white residue on all this stuff, even 511 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: his drums. And that is a crime, okay, And I 512 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: can only imagine what it's doing to his PlayStation or 513 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: Xbox or three d Oh, whatever he's got, whatever console 514 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: he's using. Um, it's weird to think that that water 515 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: inside a vessel, like you know, the the pot that 516 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: we were using to boil the water for the pasta. 517 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: The water boils all the way down, goes up in steam, 518 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: and then that residue because it's heavier, their minerals they 519 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: collect at the bottom. I can imagine that, I can 520 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: visualize that. I understand, at least through physics why it 521 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: would do that. What I didn't understand is that the 522 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: process of the humidifier, it does kind of the same 523 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: thing when it superheats that water, turns it into mist vapor, 524 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: and then sends it out pretty rapidly. It just it 525 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: really does go in the air. It carries a lot 526 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: of the stuff that's attached to those water molecules, and 527 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: they float everywhere everywhere in your room, and it really 528 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: will collect like dust, but it's not dust, their minerals, 529 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: and they can become hardened pretty quickly. And that's why 530 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you guys like remember Luke saying, 531 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: it's like it's weird, it's like chalk, but it's not 532 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: like chalk. It's hard to describe. That's why, at least 533 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly if that's what you're dealing with, Luke, 534 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: but I am pretty sure. I'm not positive, but it's likely. 535 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: But that's not what I want to talk about with 536 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: humidifiers because that stinks. But that's not a problem necessarily 537 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to your health. There's something that could 538 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: something bad that could happen to you. What is a 539 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: problem is if the water you're using in your humidifier 540 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: sits there for too long, or if there's a certain 541 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: amount of build up of bacteria and other things like 542 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: other micro organisms that get into that water and then 543 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: you're vaporizing it and shooting it into the air and 544 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: you're just breathing that stuff. Yeah, that can become a serious, 545 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: serious problem. And there's a whole thing like a a 546 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: separate type of illness that is described as humidifier like 547 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: a humidifier illness because of specific types of bacteria that 548 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: get into the lungs when you're using one of these things. 549 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: And there's an article over on time dot com called 550 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: the Creepy Truth about Humidifiers, was posted way back in 551 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: March of but it's still there and still well will 552 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: tell you a lot of things that you need to 553 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: know about your humidifier. Uh. It describes all kinds of stuff, 554 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: and this one in particular, this one piece of information 555 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: in particular, felt like it spoke to this story from Luke. 556 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read a bit of it again. It's time 557 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: dot com. The authors of one case study from the 558 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: University of Utah discovered that an infant had developed a 559 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: serious lung injury after breathing in humidifier white dust, where 560 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: the powdery build up of calcium, magnesium and other metal 561 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: deposits that can form on the inside of the machines reservoir. Now, 562 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: whether or not I don't know this. I don't know 563 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: the full case study yet. We're just kind of we're 564 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: not doing our regular deep research on this quite yet. 565 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: But if that is true in this case study, then 566 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: the dust from your humidifier may actually be a problem 567 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: if it is exactly what they're describing here, which is 568 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: the limescale. A lot of what I have been reading 569 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: prior to finding this article was that it could be 570 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: dangerous if you are perhaps younger, or you have asthma, 571 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: or you have another breathing issue. Adding those substances you know, 572 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: into your lungs as you're breathing in on a constant 573 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: basis could be a major problem. But if you're you know, 574 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: a healthy adult or even a healthy younger person, it 575 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't be that big of a deal. But again, I'm 576 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: not a doctor. I can't give you medical advice. I 577 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: can't tell you the truth about what it is when 578 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: it comes to those case studies because I don't know. 579 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: It's just what I'm reading. But it definitely freaked me 580 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: out thinking about specifically my son's room and the humidifier 581 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: we use and how I need to clean it again. 582 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do that right after we finish this record. Yeah. No, 583 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: that stuff can you really get. I mean, you know, 584 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: if you've ever even left uh, water in the sink 585 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: for example, or like you know, dirty dishes or something 586 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: like that in anywhere water The idea of standing water 587 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: or stagnant water is a thing is not People think 588 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: of water as like this magical purifier, but it collects 589 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: everything that's out in the air. Over time, it gets 590 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: real bad. Um, So definitely want to change that stuff 591 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: out and clean any of the parts or the you know, 592 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: the pieces of the humidifier that could you know, uh, 593 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: be out of sight because there's parts of it where 594 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: it is a reservoir right where it can collect down 595 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: in there, and if you aren't cleaning that out on 596 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: the regular, then it can really really build up. It's 597 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: the same with like, let's say a cur eg for example, 598 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: there's a reservoir in a cur eg where if you 599 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: don't um you might change the water in the actual tank, 600 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: but there's a whole part of it that's not seen, 601 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: that's inside, and if you don't cycle it through and 602 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: you haven't used your correct for a week, you're drinking 603 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: week old curag water and NOL. The e p A 604 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: suggests that you clean your humidifier, like really clean it 605 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: every three days of use. So I don't do that. 606 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: Does anybody out there clean their humidifier every three days? 607 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: Is that like flossing every day or some other thing 608 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to do that I just end up 609 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: not doing. Oh god, yeah, I don't. I don't know 610 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: by any of that stuff. Man, I'm not not the 611 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: best shining example of daily rituals of that kind. Well, 612 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: it's just it's really freaky. It's really freaky to me 613 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: because you know, I grew up with the humidifier as 614 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: a kid. I have memories of it as a child, 615 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: and I did have upper respiratory problems, and I think 616 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: the humidifier was like a way to help fix some 617 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: of those problems. But knowing some of what I've been reading, 618 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: it may have been the cause of others. So you're 619 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: like fixing one causing three more, kind of like any 620 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: prescription drug out there. Cough, cough, wee weeze, and um. 621 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: You know the other thing, there's there's an investigation, according 622 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: to this time article, uh, from an outbreak in in Korea, 623 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: and that there were actually the specific humidifier disinfectants were 624 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: that were being used to clean the water before it 625 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: gets vaporized, and those chemicals that were being used were 626 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: actually the culprit for a secondary infection outbreak. Uh. Y oh, No, 627 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: we know each other cokes and now neither one of 628 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: us can talk, but we've got to break the rules 629 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: of Jake's else we can't have a show anyhow. Yeah, man, 630 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: this is an interesting one. Uh. I know, we went 631 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: a little more like kind of call to action procedural 632 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: like life hack stuff with this one today. But I 633 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: actually think this is a good place to go. This 634 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: is definitely an actionable thing that you can pay a 635 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: little more attention to around the house and maybe not 636 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: be drinking horrible chemicals all the time. Well yeah, well 637 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: in a in a weird way, it's for me. The 638 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know about all of 639 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: this is that there are these devices that we put 640 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: in our homes a lot of times that we think 641 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: are going to be helping us in some way, right, 642 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: whether it's from a health perspective, time saving perspective, whatever, 643 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is. We put these things, these devices in 644 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: our homes all the time, and we just use them 645 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,959 Speaker 1: because it's kind of just generally accepted that they're they're fine, 646 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: they're gonna be great, there's no problem here. Let me 647 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: rephraseing back that every so not horrible chemicals. That's not 648 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: exactly true, but it's just you know, I mean, it's 649 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: it's things that probably our best not to be consumed 650 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: on the regular, right. Yeah, sure the lime stuff can 651 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: be bad again at larger concentrate rations over time. Correct, 652 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: we're not we're not medical professionals. Is not medical advice. 653 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: Just remember that. Okay, we said that again, Attorneys, we 654 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: love you. We love you, Attorneys, we love you, especially Holly. 655 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: She's the best. Ben did pick out a story that 656 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: we're not going to go into today that I cannot 657 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: wait for him to return and tell us all about it. Say, 658 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: I know you want to spoil what it is. It 659 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: has something to do with what happens after you're no 660 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: longer living, does only about cannibals. Yeah, but it's dark 661 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: and it's real. It's weird. It's weirder than I even 662 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,959 Speaker 1: expected when I read the you know, the log line 663 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: of what Ben wrote. So I can't wait for that. Yeah, 664 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: and we will have that one. I'm sure lickingly split 665 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: when Ben gets back from his dinghy adventures in the 666 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: South Pacific. Yes, and I want to do one last 667 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: thing before we leave here. And it's weird, it's kind 668 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: of different. I don't want to give you any information 669 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: further than what our caller gives us. I don't know, 670 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: it's weird. I kind of want us all to go 671 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: down a little bit of a rabbit hole before hopefully 672 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: we turn this into a full episode, because I think 673 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be worth it. We'll find out, but I 674 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: just want to I want everybody to listen to it 675 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: and then maybe send us your thoughts. Does that make sense? Okay, 676 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: let's play this one last one goal. Hello, members and 677 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: conspiracy realists that runs stuff they don't want you to know. 678 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: I would like you to cover a subject that you 679 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: have not covered and that you probably probably have not 680 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: heard of. But I guarantee it will be interesting to 681 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: you and everyone who's listening because it ties in directly 682 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: with Microsoft and Google and everything that we use today. 683 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: The company's name I want you to investigate is Controlled Data, 684 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: based out of Minnesota in the late seventies and early eighties, 685 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: and it is where my father worked as a computer 686 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: programmer and was unfortunately promoted to manager. I will let 687 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: you discover the rest, but let's just say my father 688 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: had a huge heart in the way that the world 689 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: works now, which is part of the stuff that they 690 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. You can call me anonymous 691 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: for this one, gentlemen, I love you all, PP with you. Uh. 692 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: First of all, the cadence of that man's voice put 693 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: me in a trance. It did. Yeah, I know, and 694 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: it sounds so sinister, right, I'm into it. I'll just 695 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 1: let everybody know. I'll give you this hint. It's Computer 696 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 1: Data Corporation and it has to do with super computers 697 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: from when computing was a very early technology. We're talking 698 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: punch cards and stuff. But they continued for a long time, 699 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: and there's some weird stuff that happened, companies coming and going, 700 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: being bought and sold, morphing turning into other things. I 701 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about this, and we'd love to 702 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: hear what you think. So, you know, go down the 703 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. We'll be doing the same thing, and you know, 704 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: maybe we'll meet up for an episode sometime. 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On Instagram we are conspiracy Stuff Show 715 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: what else can you find where we're on all the apps? 716 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: All the players from Apple to my Heart to Stitcher. 717 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: You can find this hopefully you're listening to it in 718 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: one of those places, but you can also share it 719 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: with your friends that maybe don't use the same one 720 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: that you're using. Spotify is in there, tubes in the mix. 721 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: It's in the mix. 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With 730 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: so much to give, We just give, and we give, 731 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: and we just give, okay, and then we give some more. Hey, 732 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: and we also have a phone number you could call us, 733 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: like our two listeners, Ann and Luke who called in today. 734 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: Our number is one eight three three std w y 735 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 1: t K. When you call in, you've got three minutes. 736 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: After you hear the dulcet tones of Benjamin bolan Uh. 737 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: At that point you know if if you go over 738 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: three minutes, it's just gonna cut off. So please stay 739 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: within that time frame. 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