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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by the one

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Speaker 1: and only Wes Hodkuits. Were coming to you here from

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Speaker 1: our studios at lambeau Field West. Late last week, we

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Speaker 1: got our first look, a first hand look at the

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Speaker 1: Packers rookie class for nineteen. The annual Rookie Minicamp took

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Speaker 1: place the weekend after the draft. Eight draft picks, eleven

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, close to a couple of dozen tryout players.

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Speaker 1: We're all there. We only got to watch about a

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Speaker 1: half hours worth of practice, so there wasn't a whole

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Speaker 1: lot we could glean from there, but we did get

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Speaker 1: to interview players in the locker room after practice. Just

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Speaker 1: curious what you're first impressions were of the Packers twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen rookie class. Well, this is I always enjoy Rookie

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Speaker 1: Camp because the locker room session, especially this year where

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Speaker 1: there was only one open locker room for the camp.

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Speaker 1: It always tests our teamwork, probably more so than any

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Speaker 1: other event that we covered throughout the course of the year.

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Speaker 1: It's spafored, it's hot Kowitz, It's the one to punch

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Speaker 1: you're over there, I'm over here. So we basically it's

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Speaker 1: divide and conquered the eight different draft picks the Packers had.

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Speaker 1: So I was over at ra Shawn Gary. You went

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Speaker 1: over to Darnell Savage, and then we just kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, pieced it out that way. Being at Gary

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Speaker 1: and listening to him talk for the first time addressing

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Speaker 1: the media in person, it was really impressed with the

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Speaker 1: young man. This is a guy that certainly has all

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Speaker 1: the measurables, has all the skills, has all the times

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Speaker 1: in what you look for out of the top fifteen pick.

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Speaker 1: But it was also really interesting and captivating listen to

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Speaker 1: him talk about his journey and what it meant for

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Speaker 1: him to make it to this level. I know there

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Speaker 1: are some questions out there. You and I have received

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Speaker 1: those an inbox, and we've seen them on social media,

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Speaker 1: people wondering about his stats and his sacks and his

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Speaker 1: production at Michigan. But somebody else brought it up in

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Speaker 1: the column this week, and I thought it was really

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Speaker 1: astute observation. I mean, this is a very similar situation

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Speaker 1: to what Ted Thompson encountered with Clay Matthews in sum reguard.

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Speaker 1: Now Gary was a higher touted prospect than Matthews was

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Speaker 1: when he went to USC was just a walk on,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of it was based on projection of

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Speaker 1: them going in the first round. For me, Michael, I

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Speaker 1: would rather I said this a hundred times already. I

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Speaker 1: would rather play or have nine and a half sacks

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Speaker 1: and three years in college and have the type of

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Speaker 1: measurables and times that Gary had over a guy that

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Speaker 1: in college is great, it's gonna set you up for

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Speaker 1: what you do in the NFL. But ultimately it's about

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Speaker 1: what you can be as a player. How big are

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Speaker 1: your pause, what can you offer a team in the

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Speaker 1: long run. And I think Gary is one of those

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Speaker 1: players that really is enticing when you look at the

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Speaker 1: total package. Yeah, and Gary is the type of player

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Speaker 1: when you talk about the stats from college and all

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Speaker 1: of at this is where the scouts earn their money.

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Speaker 1: This is why they get paid what they get paid, because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people they love the stats. You all

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Speaker 1: the college clips around YouTube these days, you can go

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Speaker 1: out there and find the highlights of any draft prospect,

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Speaker 1: almost any player in college out there. But the scouts

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Speaker 1: got smoked by an NFL prospect. Now those are extreme examples,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, you know, But that's why the scouts

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Speaker 1: of the film, so to speak, every frame of the

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Speaker 1: make that projection as to what they will be in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And and yeah, multiple readers have pointed it out.

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Speaker 1: Clay Matthews is a great example. Five and a half

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Speaker 1: But the reality is is what you see beyond the film,

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Speaker 1: He understands the expectations that go along with having that

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Speaker 1: But he's not shying away from that. Overall, we only

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Speaker 1: You know, whether it was Darnell Savage talking about you

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Speaker 1: he did that, taking up the number of Will Likely,

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Speaker 1: he totally heard me when I said that, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: but even talking to j Sternberger, another really well spoken guy,

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Speaker 1: I think ultimately makes him appreciative of this opportunity. But

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Speaker 1: A c C taking on some high caliber talent. Played

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Speaker 1: September and two or three, these guys end up making

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Speaker 1: was gonna say to when you you look at the history. Now,

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Speaker 1: there is opportunity there for undrafted players to make an

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on. Yeah, he's one of those guys

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Speaker 1: but you know there's still a lot of ability there. Yeah. Alright, Well,

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