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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson and Matt. We're

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Speaker 1: going over some different lists on around the NFL. UM.

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Speaker 1: That's it's the list kind of time of years, teams

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Speaker 1: get ready for the rookie minicamps and all and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Steelers will have their rookie Minicamp this weekend,

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Speaker 1: that'll be Friday and Saturday. Get their first opportunity to

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Speaker 1: take a look at some of their uh, some of

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Speaker 1: their new toys to play with and uh. Matt Bowen

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Speaker 1: on ESPN did a article best team fits for the

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Speaker 1: top rookies, perfect landing spots and mid round steels with

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Speaker 1: early impact potential. UM. So I like Matt's work a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he picked out his top ten favorite picks uh for

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Speaker 1: the draft and where they landed at their scabbatics and

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Speaker 1: for people don't know. Bowen was a safety, UM, tough guy,

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Speaker 1: special team or stuck around the league longer than his

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Speaker 1: talents would have suggested. He now hosts the NFL Matchup

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Speaker 1: Show with Greg co Sell ESPN. He's also a high

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Speaker 1: school coach in Iowa where he's from, real into it,

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Speaker 1: and I like it takes a lot on the league

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Speaker 1: film guy. Yeah. Uh so his number one guy is

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Speaker 1: the ten rookies who landed on the Perfect Team Number one.

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Speaker 1: He has a mod Gardner Gardner landing with the Jets. Hm.

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Speaker 1: I guess, well, there's two things on that is. I

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Speaker 1: have always thought this Salah Jets type defense is based

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Speaker 1: all those Niner types that they went to the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl with, And I was a little shocked they took

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Speaker 1: corner over edge when the opportunity presented itself. But there's

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Speaker 1: also big ties there too, big long Pete Carroll, Seattle

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Speaker 1: like corners, And I'm guessing that's where Bowen's going with that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And he's another one of those guys we talked about

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Speaker 1: Derek Stingley earlier in the show who could potentially be

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Speaker 1: a number one true lockdown cornerback. Yes, And I didn't

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Speaker 1: put grades on players or anything, but if I were

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Speaker 1: grading this draft class, I think he'd have got my

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Speaker 1: highest grade. Yeah, I'm with you there as well. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I think he instinctly might have been one of two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: me too. Number two is Trailing Burks. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I agree with him on this one. Middle of

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Speaker 1: the field after the catch. Yeah, but he's not he's

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Speaker 1: not an accomplished route runner. Is he gonna? Is he

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Speaker 1: gonna sell that crossing pattern super well? Or a teams

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Speaker 1: just gonna sit on it? And then what's he gonna do? See,

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Speaker 1: I didn't love the player coming out, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think I would have to get him a twenty. Um.

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Speaker 1: I do think that you'll see some end the rounds

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Speaker 1: that will make you know that Derrick Henry stuff harder

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Speaker 1: can hit him on a slant after play action and

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Speaker 1: shrug off a corner and he'll have some big plays.

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Speaker 1: So I guess the landing spot is fine. What but

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Speaker 1: while he learns, But that's the key is whole. He learns, right,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to learn there. I mean he took

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Speaker 1: him eighteenth, right, He's kind of like the Malik Willis

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Speaker 1: of receivers. Yeah, they traded up to go get Trailing

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Speaker 1: Wick Martindale is the is the new defensive coordina with

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Speaker 1: the Giants. So he's blitz. He's blitz heavy. Um, he'll

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Speaker 1: be a little more three four outside linebacker as opposed

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Speaker 1: book end. That's true that that helps with transition a

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Speaker 1: little bit too. Uh. His fourth guy is James Cook

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Speaker 1: And it's probably less that you think McCaffrey goes for

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Speaker 1: who's a receiving They're all receiving backs. Like this is

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Speaker 1: that that pick kind of reminds me of Edwards Hilaire

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Speaker 1: going to Kansas City two years ago. Dude, that's so

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Speaker 1: funny you said that because and I know you have

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Speaker 1: not listened to my podcast. I did not know because

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Speaker 1: drafting punters and you know, receiving backs It's almost like

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Speaker 1: any aligneman. You know, it was all like we we

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Speaker 1: always need this the charity on top. But that's a

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Speaker 1: their roster, but they still they still do play half

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Speaker 1: their games in Buffalo. Right, and if you ignore the

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Speaker 1: exact same thing. It's like Plas reminded the Edge a

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you take Kyle Hamilton's because he's the best

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Speaker 1: fine with it. The Steelers pick pick pick it or Pickens?

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Speaker 1: they're very similar type players. Actually, Pickens is more fluid,

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Speaker 1: to his own heavy team, man heavy team, he's exactly what. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like Jordan Davis was ahead of him, Jamison Williams was

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Speaker 1: a chess piece type cornerback. It would shock me if

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Speaker 1: he's not good. Like I'm not saying he's going to

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna happen. You know. The second guy on

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