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Speaker 1: NFL Cover zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is

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Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast Allan.

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Speaker 2: It is week ten NFL Cover zero podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am coming to you from parts unknown in the

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Speaker 1: Northeast and Drew is in Lexington, as is Billy. We

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Speaker 1: are getting ready midweek on trade deadline week, where a

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Speaker 1: ton of stuff happened down the stretch and now drew

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Speaker 1: halfway point of the season. A lot of big names,

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Speaker 1: a relatively big name, switch switch locations and ready for

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Speaker 1: another big week after. You know, it feels like the

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Speaker 1: two or three weeks of kind of a blase schedule.

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Speaker 1: I think we get back to some big ones this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got another international game and the trade deadline

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Speaker 3: just hit. As you said, there were some big surprises there,

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Speaker 3: some teams trying to win now with some big moves.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to breaking down with you.

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Speaker 1: It's National Game over zero, NFL International game in Berlin.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been to uh? I think the first

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Speaker 2: Have you?

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Speaker 1: Uh? I don't think you've never been to Germany? Am

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Speaker 1: I correct? I've never done Germany?

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Speaker 3: UH done Ireland and parts of uh, just Liverpool, Manchester,

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Speaker 3: but never got over to Germany.

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Speaker 2: Those were Germany.

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Speaker 1: Uh Berlin known for its night clubs and its party scene,

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Speaker 1: which I know would be of you know, huge impact

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Speaker 1: really liked the what is it the European when they

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Speaker 1: I think they'll actually get a big crowd over there.

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Speaker 1: And they gave them I know they gave them Falcons Colts.

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Speaker 1: That's not a terrible game. Probably on paper didn't look

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Speaker 1: like as good a game as it'll be when.

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Speaker 2: They actually get over there.

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Speaker 1: They get a little Daniel Jones and what is actually

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Speaker 2: So do you think Germany will be excited sprecking Ze

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be very excited. If you were asking

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Speaker 3: get a football game. I saw Michigan Football today canceled

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Speaker 3: their Berlin game. So one game has been taken away

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a weird game Michigan was playing

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Speaker 1: they were going all the way to Germany. That seemed

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Speaker 1: I remember when they scheduled that. I thought that was

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Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in Germany last year

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Speaker 2: The worst food on planet Earth is in Germany.

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Speaker 1: In terms of like, if you're talking about a nation's cuisine,

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Speaker 2: Everything is friid. It's all got big, big sausage and

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Speaker 1: And if you I mean, I guess if you like beer.

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Speaker 3: I could put away some beer krout in Franks, but

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Speaker 3: I'm more interested in seeing if we can any nightclub

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Speaker 2: The most exclusive nightclubs in the world are in Berlin.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be funny if the NFL had

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Speaker 1: But I would just like to be able to say

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that Daniel Jones and Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 3: I don't know if those are two guys that'll be

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Speaker 1: That's like Daniel Jones would get in if Danny Dimes

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a whole it's a whole thing.

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Speaker 1: But I hope they have success in their first NFL

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Speaker 2: I can guarantee you this. The scores will be going

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be what the score is it'll be. It

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Speaker 3: I will be locked in. I love the early morning games.

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Speaker 3: I'll probably have the same game parlay and will enjoy

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Speaker 2: That's the best part of all these Yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Though you do get you do get many of the

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Speaker 2: Now. A lot of.

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Speaker 1: Stuff in the news, but I think the biggest story

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Speaker 2: It looked to me like.

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Speaker 1: And the Sauce, Gardener and the Williams. They got huge value.

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Speaker 1: it's probably the right choice in there. But it's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Quinn Williams and Sauce Gardner two elite players, a

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Speaker 3: and they're both in their prime, Sauce being a little

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Speaker 3: the Colts and Cowboys like, you got to win now

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Speaker 3: because you gave up a lot. These are two very

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Speaker 3: a couple of years to pull this off. I think

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Speaker 3: Colts need to really take advantage of this right away.

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Speaker 1: And you also, I mean I think you could next

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Speaker 1: they're definitely going to take their quarterback. But if you

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, I think this is like a trade for

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Speaker 1: job security. You go, well, you traded away all my

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Speaker 1: Just skip over the fact that you went one in seven.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked, though, at some of the returns. I

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Speaker 1: the Jets made a good deal. But they made a

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Speaker 1: good deal. It feels like to me they did the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: So even though I'm excited for the Cowboys, I liked

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Speaker 3: he could change the position. He's great inside stopping the

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Speaker 2: On that defense. So here's the question for you. Would

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis if your Sauce gardener. Which one of those

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Speaker 2: I are both New York guys, we like it.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather be in Indianapolis eating the pork tenderloin

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Speaker 3: It's a fresh start and I haven't already been at

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Speaker 3: either one. Honestly, I'm probably picking the Jets in New York.

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Speaker 3: But Sauce and quinnin Williams have both given the New

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Speaker 3: So good for them on getting out. But I would

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Speaker 1: I mean, you and I both believe living in in

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Speaker 1: but nevertheless he's going to do it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's interesting the Colts clearly believe they can

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Speaker 1: I mean, you make this trade only if you believe

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Speaker 2: Now, Billy, they were.

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Speaker 3: Bries Hall, Poor Breeze Hall didn't get out though he

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Speaker 3: he's stuck around even tweet them all the positions.

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Speaker 2: Breece Hall is the one that needs it the most.

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Speaker 1: He's the one that can do the least about all

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what they were offered.

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Speaker 2: So I all those of all those trades, I think.

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Speaker 1: It's like, honey, I'm going on vacation, but even if

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Speaker 3: obviously because it was such a big change. But when

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00:20:00,213 --> 00:20:01,852
Speaker 3: you have a big change like that, you see the

438
00:20:01,853 --> 00:20:05,453
Speaker 3: innovation and people trying things. And I love that Seattle

439
00:20:05,453 --> 00:20:07,853
Speaker 3: tried this and actually worked, leading to a force fumble.

440
00:20:08,213 --> 00:20:10,613
Speaker 3: Now I think eventually maybe teams will see this and

441
00:20:10,613 --> 00:20:12,373
Speaker 3: they'll get a little more speed and you can just

442
00:20:12,573 --> 00:20:15,213
Speaker 3: avoid the big guys. But what they're trying to do

443
00:20:15,333 --> 00:20:17,653
Speaker 3: is now the space is so much more limited. Then

444
00:20:17,733 --> 00:20:19,453
Speaker 3: put the big guys in there, and both of them

445
00:20:19,533 --> 00:20:22,453
Speaker 3: just blew through a blocker and completely blew up the

446
00:20:22,613 --> 00:20:26,292
Speaker 3: entire return schemes, so it at least work once. But

447
00:20:26,373 --> 00:20:28,613
Speaker 3: now I think we'll see the return side react to

448
00:20:28,613 --> 00:20:30,253
Speaker 3: this and it'll just be a give and take until

449
00:20:30,413 --> 00:20:31,213
Speaker 3: it all settles in.

450
00:20:31,613 --> 00:20:33,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but that's what it's supposed to be, right,

451
00:20:33,493 --> 00:20:34,373
Speaker 2: it's supposed to add.

452
00:20:34,493 --> 00:20:37,453
Speaker 1: I mean, here's what I know didn't work where you

453
00:20:37,533 --> 00:20:40,653
Speaker 1: kicked it, and I think last year what six percent

454
00:20:40,933 --> 00:20:44,253
Speaker 1: or were returned or something that was not interesting. So

455
00:20:44,693 --> 00:20:46,933
Speaker 1: this is a lot better than that. I'll take it.

456
00:20:47,653 --> 00:20:49,532
Speaker 1: And I actually think it goes really well. And I

457
00:20:49,653 --> 00:20:52,693
Speaker 1: like the coats for they're doing the old hockey goalie thing.

458
00:20:52,733 --> 00:20:54,733
Speaker 1: Why don't you just put a big fat guy in

459
00:20:54,773 --> 00:20:57,373
Speaker 1: the hockey goal and then people won't score. They're like,

460
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Speaker 1: let's just put big fat guys in the center of

461
00:20:59,373 --> 00:21:00,693
Speaker 1: the field on the kickoff, and then.

462
00:21:00,573 --> 00:21:03,613
Speaker 3: It won't work if you are the kick returner. Though,

463
00:21:03,893 --> 00:21:06,413
Speaker 3: it's a little different looking up and there's defensive line'm

464
00:21:06,413 --> 00:21:08,813
Speaker 3: been running at you with three hundred pounds on them

465
00:21:09,253 --> 00:21:11,733
Speaker 3: in a cornerback coming down the field. I wonder what

466
00:21:11,853 --> 00:21:13,812
Speaker 3: kind of hitdspace that puts them in, knowing that they

467
00:21:13,813 --> 00:21:16,133
Speaker 3: could get broken in half if one of these guys

468
00:21:16,173 --> 00:21:17,053
Speaker 3: caught them at full speed.

469
00:21:17,093 --> 00:21:20,413
Speaker 1: It's different, but you know what, that'll make them be

470
00:21:20,533 --> 00:21:22,933
Speaker 1: careful what they do. You do have to be careful.

471
00:21:22,973 --> 00:21:25,812
Speaker 1: You might you might get you might get knocked to

472
00:21:25,853 --> 00:21:26,292
Speaker 1: the ground.

473
00:21:26,333 --> 00:21:28,893
Speaker 2: So I'm alright with it for everybody. What's next.

474
00:21:29,773 --> 00:21:33,093
Speaker 4: Let's talk a little Mew Mix, the Carolina Panthers podcast

475
00:21:33,253 --> 00:21:35,773
Speaker 4: that decided to step away earlier this year, and ever

476
00:21:35,813 --> 00:21:38,773
Speaker 4: since then the only Carolina The only thing they've done

477
00:21:38,813 --> 00:21:40,893
Speaker 4: is win. They are five and four in the air.

478
00:21:40,893 --> 00:21:43,013
Speaker 4: They beat the Packers sixteen to thirteen last week, and

479
00:21:43,133 --> 00:21:45,292
Speaker 4: right after the game, Meo Mix announced that they were

480
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Speaker 4: going to be coming back, but the next day they

481
00:21:48,053 --> 00:21:50,572
Speaker 4: released a statement saying, even though we planned to record

482
00:21:50,653 --> 00:21:53,253
Speaker 4: last week before the results against Green Bay, we won't

483
00:21:53,293 --> 00:21:56,653
Speaker 4: be recording due to the overwhelming response from former players.

484
00:21:57,013 --> 00:21:59,893
Speaker 4: We were just a small, fun podcast since twenty nineteen

485
00:22:00,093 --> 00:22:02,173
Speaker 4: and needed a break from all the time we spent

486
00:22:02,253 --> 00:22:05,613
Speaker 4: putting the show on. One of those former players I

487
00:22:05,693 --> 00:22:08,653
Speaker 4: believe was Jonathan Stewart, who said, woke up with his

488
00:22:09,013 --> 00:22:12,333
Speaker 4: heavy on my heart Meow Mixed podcast. Please stay where

489
00:22:12,413 --> 00:22:17,213
Speaker 4: y'all at. Be a team player, all right.

490
00:22:17,613 --> 00:22:19,893
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Meal Mix. We've been following the

491
00:22:19,893 --> 00:22:22,812
Speaker 1: Meow mixed story all year. I feel bad for him.

492
00:22:23,013 --> 00:22:25,733
Speaker 1: All right, so they quit. Then the moment they quit,

493
00:22:26,013 --> 00:22:28,613
Speaker 1: the Panthers get good. So then they want to come

494
00:22:28,653 --> 00:22:32,093
Speaker 1: back and they get a huge round of people going yes.

495
00:22:32,253 --> 00:22:36,453
Speaker 1: But then they have people saying if you come back now,

496
00:22:36,453 --> 00:22:40,053
Speaker 1: you're a jinx and it would it would stink if

497
00:22:40,093 --> 00:22:43,893
Speaker 1: you had players who you used to follow coming out

498
00:22:43,933 --> 00:22:48,213
Speaker 1: and saying stay away. So I feel like meal Mix

499
00:22:48,293 --> 00:22:51,532
Speaker 1: can't win for losing. They were not popular, which causes

500
00:22:51,533 --> 00:22:55,253
Speaker 1: them to quit. Their decision to stop doing it gets

501
00:22:55,293 --> 00:22:58,373
Speaker 1: a lot of attention to where they're popular, so they're like,

502
00:22:58,493 --> 00:23:01,133
Speaker 1: we're popular, let's do a podcast, And now they have

503
00:23:01,253 --> 00:23:04,133
Speaker 1: to not do it again because people are saying stay away.

504
00:23:04,933 --> 00:23:08,253
Speaker 1: I feel like mel Biggs can't do anything right. I'm

505
00:23:08,373 --> 00:23:09,613
Speaker 1: sad for mew Mix.

506
00:23:10,853 --> 00:23:14,253
Speaker 3: I think mew Mix needs to recognize that they're responsible

507
00:23:14,293 --> 00:23:18,133
Speaker 3: for the Chargers going on this wind streak. And sure,

508
00:23:18,333 --> 00:23:20,773
Speaker 3: I'm sure they'd prefer to be putting out episodes and

509
00:23:20,813 --> 00:23:23,893
Speaker 3: talking about it, but the sacrifice they made has worked

510
00:23:23,893 --> 00:23:26,133
Speaker 3: and they just have to stick with it. Now. Could

511
00:23:26,173 --> 00:23:28,133
Speaker 3: they maybe put out a T shirt or something. There's

512
00:23:28,133 --> 00:23:30,453
Speaker 3: got to be ways meil Mix can benefit a little bit,

513
00:23:30,893 --> 00:23:33,813
Speaker 3: but just from they quit because they weren't popular.

514
00:23:34,013 --> 00:23:35,693
Speaker 2: But now I have said.

515
00:23:35,573 --> 00:23:38,613
Speaker 3: Now Mix a thousand times in the last four weeks,

516
00:23:38,613 --> 00:23:40,812
Speaker 3: and everyone else has and they so it's jerking.

517
00:23:41,213 --> 00:23:44,933
Speaker 1: They can't take advantage of it. They're literally getting yelled

518
00:23:44,933 --> 00:23:48,093
Speaker 1: at by the general public saying stay away.

519
00:23:48,533 --> 00:23:48,852
Speaker 3: It is.

520
00:23:48,933 --> 00:23:50,893
Speaker 2: It is one of the saddest things to me in

521
00:23:50,933 --> 00:23:53,213
Speaker 2: the world. You do this podcast out.

522
00:23:53,093 --> 00:23:57,532
Speaker 1: Of love, something happens where you break through, and finally

523
00:23:57,653 --> 00:24:01,373
Speaker 1: a Panthers podcast. I can't even imagine the scenario where

524
00:24:01,373 --> 00:24:04,493
Speaker 1: I would listen to a Panther's podcast. I now want

525
00:24:04,533 --> 00:24:08,973
Speaker 1: to hear a Panther's podcast, and then Jonathan Stewart's like,

526
00:24:09,093 --> 00:24:12,133
Speaker 1: stay away, meow Mix, get out of here, get your

527
00:24:12,333 --> 00:24:15,052
Speaker 1: crap out, it's the word. I feel bad for him,

528
00:24:15,093 --> 00:24:16,572
Speaker 1: and I'd like to have him on the show, but

529
00:24:16,613 --> 00:24:18,973
Speaker 1: they're too big. They don't even answer our messages. We

530
00:24:19,053 --> 00:24:22,173
Speaker 1: try to get meow Mixed on. They're not having it.

531
00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:26,092
Speaker 1: So but it's a crazy situation, and you're right they

532
00:24:26,333 --> 00:24:28,493
Speaker 1: they they're not going to be able to take advantage

533
00:24:28,493 --> 00:24:29,292
Speaker 1: of all this attention.

534
00:24:29,693 --> 00:24:31,253
Speaker 2: So I feel bad for Meal Mix.

535
00:24:31,293 --> 00:24:33,373
Speaker 1: And how would you like to be a fan of

536
00:24:33,413 --> 00:24:36,293
Speaker 1: a team where the former players are saying get out

537
00:24:36,293 --> 00:24:38,852
Speaker 1: of here. That's got to also kind of hurt your pride,

538
00:24:38,933 --> 00:24:44,413
Speaker 1: right for some reason something about it. There's former players

539
00:24:44,693 --> 00:24:46,572
Speaker 1: because it's not like you think of legends. It's not

540
00:24:46,573 --> 00:24:49,133
Speaker 1: like you're like cowboys. Former players speak out against cowboys.

541
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Speaker 3: I have like Jake dellowhem and Carry Collins in my

542
00:24:51,773 --> 00:24:53,853
Speaker 3: brain right now, Jonathan Stewart.

543
00:24:54,213 --> 00:24:55,573
Speaker 2: Does Jonathan Stewart.

544
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Speaker 1: Count as a legend, Like he's not even the most

545
00:24:58,093 --> 00:25:01,493
Speaker 1: famous guy named John Stewart, Like does he get does

546
00:25:01,493 --> 00:25:02,973
Speaker 1: he get to count as a legend?

547
00:25:03,013 --> 00:25:09,013
Speaker 3: And determining this, I think Greg Olsen, Cam Newton, I

548
00:25:09,013 --> 00:25:10,773
Speaker 3: think those are your legends, the other guys, I mean,

549
00:25:10,813 --> 00:25:13,773
Speaker 3: great former players. But when I heard former players speaking out,

550
00:25:13,813 --> 00:25:15,093
Speaker 3: I thought Panthers.

551
00:25:14,693 --> 00:25:23,013
Speaker 1: Like Loui even yeah Louke, Greg Olsen, Cam, maybe even

552
00:25:23,093 --> 00:25:24,093
Speaker 1: Jake Delone.

553
00:25:24,893 --> 00:25:25,453
Speaker 2: I don't know if.

554
00:25:25,413 --> 00:25:27,693
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart gets to do it. I'm not sure he

555
00:25:27,733 --> 00:25:30,053
Speaker 1: gets to, but apparently he did. And now meow Mix

556
00:25:30,573 --> 00:25:33,133
Speaker 1: is waiting to get on the side. But you know,

557
00:25:33,733 --> 00:25:36,893
Speaker 1: for every fall there will be a return. And when

558
00:25:36,933 --> 00:25:40,013
Speaker 1: meow Mix comes out, they will have one listener in me.

559
00:25:40,053 --> 00:25:43,613
Speaker 4: Billy Carolina four and one since Meo Mix canceled the podcast,

560
00:25:43,693 --> 00:25:44,893
Speaker 4: So that's unbelievable.

561
00:25:45,613 --> 00:25:49,532
Speaker 1: Even that that even hurts me, Like they couldn't get

562
00:25:49,613 --> 00:25:50,693
Speaker 1: good until they quit.

563
00:25:50,813 --> 00:25:52,293
Speaker 2: It's just a sad story.

564
00:25:53,013 --> 00:25:55,773
Speaker 3: But couldn't they just like imagine they just set up

565
00:25:55,813 --> 00:25:58,052
Speaker 3: a tollgate and says meow Mix when I do the podcast,

566
00:25:58,093 --> 00:26:00,613
Speaker 3: when I recording, but we're just tailgating. They would be

567
00:26:00,653 --> 00:26:03,133
Speaker 3: the most popular people outside the stadium in the home game.

568
00:26:03,173 --> 00:26:05,852
Speaker 3: They want to other avenues.

569
00:26:05,573 --> 00:26:07,773
Speaker 1: Like I have in my right mind. I have in

570
00:26:07,813 --> 00:26:10,733
Speaker 1: my mind what I think they look like. Here's what

571
00:26:10,773 --> 00:26:13,573
Speaker 1: I think they look like. And because I've never seen

572
00:26:13,613 --> 00:26:17,533
Speaker 1: their picture, I think they look like two accountants who

573
00:26:17,693 --> 00:26:24,292
Speaker 1: put on like cat ears and sit and go and

574
00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:26,893
Speaker 1: then go now and then talk about the and talk

575
00:26:26,893 --> 00:26:29,613
Speaker 1: about the panthers. That's that's how I like to picture them.

576
00:26:29,693 --> 00:26:31,133
Speaker 1: How do you like to picture them?

577
00:26:31,613 --> 00:26:35,173
Speaker 3: I picture them as like actual cat ladies. They're probably

578
00:26:35,173 --> 00:26:38,332
Speaker 3: wearing a very old sweater from like the eighties, and

579
00:26:38,373 --> 00:26:40,532
Speaker 3: there's you know, there's like those cat play pins that

580
00:26:40,573 --> 00:26:44,333
Speaker 3: people putting like you're picturing them like m PR hosts,

581
00:26:44,333 --> 00:26:47,773
Speaker 3: but they're talking about the panthers. Yeah, definitely definitely seeing

582
00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:49,173
Speaker 3: cat ladies or like furries.

583
00:26:49,213 --> 00:26:50,413
Speaker 2: I don't know if furries are still.

584
00:26:52,293 --> 00:26:54,613
Speaker 3: Don't do that. Don't do that to them. I'm just

585
00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:56,693
Speaker 3: telling you what I picture when I hear meal mix.

586
00:26:57,453 --> 00:26:59,853
Speaker 3: That's what That's the visual I'm getting. Don't make them

587
00:26:59,853 --> 00:27:02,893
Speaker 3: a litter box in elementary schools. Come on, they're they're

588
00:27:03,293 --> 00:27:07,853
Speaker 3: They're not They're not like that. I'm strange in NFL franchise.

589
00:27:07,933 --> 00:27:09,813
Speaker 3: They are a big time I'm not trying to degrade them.

590
00:27:09,933 --> 00:27:10,253
Speaker 2: They are.

591
00:27:10,293 --> 00:27:13,373
Speaker 1: They are respectable Payanthers fans. What's next, Billy?

592
00:27:13,493 --> 00:27:15,933
Speaker 4: After the Rams beat the Saints thirty four to ten

593
00:27:16,013 --> 00:27:18,413
Speaker 4: last week in advance to six and two on the season,

594
00:27:18,453 --> 00:27:20,613
Speaker 4: they are now the betting favorite to be the number

595
00:27:20,653 --> 00:27:23,373
Speaker 4: one seed in the NFC. The Rams are at plus

596
00:27:23,373 --> 00:27:26,133
Speaker 4: three twenty, the Eagles all right plus three fifty, the

597
00:27:26,173 --> 00:27:28,653
Speaker 4: Seahawks at plus four seventy five, and the Bucks at

598
00:27:28,693 --> 00:27:29,573
Speaker 4: plus five hundred.

599
00:27:30,213 --> 00:27:32,173
Speaker 2: Would you say I can get the Eagles.

600
00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:33,813
Speaker 4: For plus three fifty right now?

601
00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:35,493
Speaker 1: See, I think that's a great bet. I mean, I

602
00:27:35,533 --> 00:27:39,933
Speaker 1: still think the Eagles are the favorite. I'm surprised the Rams.

603
00:27:40,013 --> 00:27:41,573
Speaker 1: I mean, I like the Rams. I think I picked

604
00:27:41,573 --> 00:27:44,453
Speaker 1: the Rams in the preseason, so but I think I

605
00:27:44,453 --> 00:27:47,013
Speaker 1: picked the Rams where it was like plus six fifty,

606
00:27:47,093 --> 00:27:49,693
Speaker 1: and so I have a Rams plus six fifty ticket.

607
00:27:49,933 --> 00:27:52,173
Speaker 1: But if I was going to hedge now I would

608
00:27:52,173 --> 00:27:54,812
Speaker 1: go ahead and take a plus three fifty Eagles ticket.

609
00:27:54,853 --> 00:27:56,733
Speaker 1: And now I've got two shots at it each for

610
00:27:56,893 --> 00:28:00,332
Speaker 1: high number. So I really like that, you know, but

611
00:28:00,453 --> 00:28:03,693
Speaker 1: it is this is the most open. The Lions I

612
00:28:03,773 --> 00:28:05,373
Speaker 1: think still have a shot even though they did not

613
00:28:05,453 --> 00:28:09,213
Speaker 1: play well. Again it's Minnesota. I still think Tampa can

614
00:28:09,253 --> 00:28:09,532
Speaker 1: do it.

615
00:28:09,573 --> 00:28:13,173
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the most open the NFC's man,

616
00:28:13,253 --> 00:28:15,733
Speaker 2: and maybe the most open the whole league has been

617
00:28:16,573 --> 00:28:18,053
Speaker 2: for a Super Bowl in a long time.

618
00:28:19,253 --> 00:28:21,093
Speaker 3: Actually, maybe you said it, but did you mention the

619
00:28:21,133 --> 00:28:21,893
Speaker 3: Lions because I.

620
00:28:22,413 --> 00:28:24,813
Speaker 2: Did that to me, yeah, I did, no ability, no

621
00:28:24,813 --> 00:28:26,532
Speaker 2: no ability. When when he was reading the odds.

622
00:28:26,613 --> 00:28:29,693
Speaker 4: So after the four it's Packers at plus seven hundred,

623
00:28:29,693 --> 00:28:31,973
Speaker 4: and then the Lions at plus seven fifty, and then

624
00:28:31,973 --> 00:28:32,453
Speaker 4: the next.

625
00:28:32,253 --> 00:28:35,653
Speaker 2: Week that's crazy to me. That's crazy to me, the

626
00:28:35,693 --> 00:28:39,533
Speaker 2: Lions are plus seven fifty. I mean that's I think

627
00:28:39,533 --> 00:28:42,253
Speaker 2: those are all like that. I think plus seven fifty

628
00:28:42,333 --> 00:28:43,213
Speaker 2: t is a great bet.

629
00:28:43,413 --> 00:28:45,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, when you read off the teams, I was

630
00:28:45,533 --> 00:28:47,253
Speaker 3: kind of waiting to see where the Lions would fit

631
00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:48,613
Speaker 3: in the pecking order, and we didn't say it.

632
00:28:48,613 --> 00:28:49,973
Speaker 2: I thought, how far down are they?

633
00:28:50,053 --> 00:28:51,973
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think they would win the conference

634
00:28:52,613 --> 00:28:55,613
Speaker 3: taking that loss last weekend. But at plus seven fifty,

635
00:28:56,133 --> 00:28:57,613
Speaker 3: that doesn't seem like it lines up to me.

636
00:28:58,333 --> 00:28:58,653
Speaker 2: Yeah.

637
00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:00,973
Speaker 4: And on the flip side in the AFC, the Bills

638
00:29:00,973 --> 00:29:03,173
Speaker 4: are the heavy favorite at plus one fifty, the Colts

639
00:29:03,173 --> 00:29:05,573
Speaker 4: are at plus three thirty, and then two teams find

640
00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:08,493
Speaker 4: themselves at plus four to fifty, the Patriots and the Broncos.

641
00:29:09,533 --> 00:29:10,373
Speaker 2: What are the Chiefs?

642
00:29:10,653 --> 00:29:12,733
Speaker 4: The Chiefs are plus sixteen hundred.

643
00:29:13,893 --> 00:29:16,733
Speaker 2: No they're not. Are you talking about to be the

644
00:29:16,773 --> 00:29:18,573
Speaker 2: one seed or go to the Super Bowl?

645
00:29:18,693 --> 00:29:20,173
Speaker 4: The one seed of the AFC?

646
00:29:22,213 --> 00:29:25,613
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well that's a different conversation. I thought you

647
00:29:25,693 --> 00:29:27,293
Speaker 2: were talking about for the Super Bowl.

648
00:29:27,773 --> 00:29:30,213
Speaker 1: All right, Yes, they're Chiefs are not gonna be the

649
00:29:30,213 --> 00:29:33,013
Speaker 1: one seed, and yeah, probably the Lions aren't either. Okay,

650
00:29:33,013 --> 00:29:36,213
Speaker 1: so that's a different conversation. I still like the Eagles though,

651
00:29:36,253 --> 00:29:37,853
Speaker 1: to be the one seed. I still would like that

652
00:29:37,933 --> 00:29:42,893
Speaker 1: bad at plus three fifty. But yeah, all right, different conversation.

653
00:29:43,253 --> 00:29:45,813
Speaker 1: Sorry I didn't For the Super Bowl.

654
00:29:46,053 --> 00:29:49,653
Speaker 4: Kse is the favorite at plus six hundred along with Buffalo.

655
00:29:49,813 --> 00:29:51,613
Speaker 4: Then you have the Rams at plus eight hundred, the

656
00:29:51,613 --> 00:29:54,173
Speaker 4: Eagles at plus nine hundred, and the Colts and Lions

657
00:29:54,213 --> 00:29:56,173
Speaker 4: at plus nine fifty.

658
00:29:56,493 --> 00:29:57,333
Speaker 2: That is amazing.

659
00:29:57,413 --> 00:30:00,213
Speaker 1: So the Chiefs are plus sixteen hundred to get the

660
00:30:00,253 --> 00:30:02,773
Speaker 1: one seed, but still the favorite to win the Super Bowl,

661
00:30:03,093 --> 00:30:06,653
Speaker 1: which shows you just how much people Drew believe Patrick

662
00:30:06,653 --> 00:30:08,333
Speaker 1: Mahomes when it comes to the postseason.

663
00:30:09,533 --> 00:30:11,853
Speaker 3: And that Owen or excuse me, four and O stat

664
00:30:12,253 --> 00:30:15,053
Speaker 3: against the Bills the other favorite right now, and you know,

665
00:30:15,133 --> 00:30:16,333
Speaker 3: we just saw it added.

666
00:30:16,093 --> 00:30:17,653
Speaker 2: To the narrative with the Bills win in the regular

667
00:30:17,693 --> 00:30:18,493
Speaker 2: season a fifth time.

668
00:30:18,933 --> 00:30:21,733
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a fascinating that's got to be one

669
00:30:21,733 --> 00:30:24,933
Speaker 1: of the more fascinating set of numbers back and forth

670
00:30:24,973 --> 00:30:26,893
Speaker 1: that we've had in a long time.

671
00:30:40,813 --> 00:30:41,653
Speaker 2: What's that. Yeah.

672
00:30:41,693 --> 00:30:44,253
Speaker 4: Highlighting some of the bigger injuries from Week nine in

673
00:30:44,253 --> 00:30:47,213
Speaker 4: the NFL, Tucker Kraft tore his ACL and he is

674
00:30:47,253 --> 00:30:50,173
Speaker 4: now out for the year. Joe Alt, the lineman for

675
00:30:50,253 --> 00:30:52,493
Speaker 4: the Chargers, had a high ankle sprain and he is

676
00:30:52,533 --> 00:30:55,653
Speaker 4: now out for the season. And Jaden Daniels Scott injured

677
00:30:55,693 --> 00:30:57,773
Speaker 4: at the end of that Sunday night football game. People

678
00:30:57,853 --> 00:30:59,893
Speaker 4: questioning why he was still in the game at that

679
00:30:59,933 --> 00:31:00,733
Speaker 4: point of the blowout.

680
00:31:00,813 --> 00:31:02,453
Speaker 2: Shouldn't have been in. Shouldn't been in.

681
00:31:02,533 --> 00:31:05,773
Speaker 1: I give Dame Quinn credit for coming out afterwards and

682
00:31:05,813 --> 00:31:07,453
Speaker 1: say and he shouldn't have been in. I mean, it

683
00:31:07,493 --> 00:31:09,493
Speaker 1: doesn't do him a lot of good because he's now

684
00:31:09,973 --> 00:31:13,133
Speaker 1: out for the year most likely, and the Commanders were

685
00:31:13,173 --> 00:31:16,573
Speaker 1: probably done either way. But he shouldn't have been in.

686
00:31:16,653 --> 00:31:18,413
Speaker 1: But I do like Drew that he came out and

687
00:31:19,133 --> 00:31:21,813
Speaker 1: took responsibility. A lot of coaches don't do that. They say,

688
00:31:21,813 --> 00:31:24,653
Speaker 1: we play. Actually gave some respect for him for just

689
00:31:24,693 --> 00:31:25,973
Speaker 1: acknowledging that was a mistake.

690
00:31:27,573 --> 00:31:29,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, most coaches, they're not looking in the mirror and

691
00:31:29,773 --> 00:31:32,373
Speaker 3: taking the blame for something. It doesn't something as significant

692
00:31:32,373 --> 00:31:34,453
Speaker 3: like that. I think it's very rare to hear coach

693
00:31:34,613 --> 00:31:36,213
Speaker 3: be like I should not have had him in the game.

694
00:31:36,373 --> 00:31:38,333
Speaker 3: A lot of times you'll get an excusive while they're

695
00:31:38,333 --> 00:31:40,853
Speaker 3: in or whatever. But that was big on him to

696
00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:43,493
Speaker 3: fess up and take the mistake, because that's a big

697
00:31:43,533 --> 00:31:45,773
Speaker 3: setback for Jaydon Daniels in a second year.

698
00:31:46,253 --> 00:31:47,453
Speaker 2: You know, the Joe alt one.

699
00:31:47,573 --> 00:31:50,213
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably the one that's the least sexy name,

700
00:31:50,333 --> 00:31:54,253
Speaker 1: but he's been. If you go through the last few years,

701
00:31:54,293 --> 00:31:56,933
Speaker 1: when he's been healthy, the Chargers have played well, and

702
00:31:56,973 --> 00:31:59,133
Speaker 1: when he's not, they haven't. I think that is a

703
00:31:59,173 --> 00:32:01,453
Speaker 1: big loss for them, as is Tucker Kraft. I mean,

704
00:32:01,493 --> 00:32:02,693
Speaker 1: all three of those injuries.

705
00:32:03,053 --> 00:32:06,973
Speaker 2: When it comes to the playoffs, though, Joe Alt might

706
00:32:07,013 --> 00:32:10,813
Speaker 2: be even bigger than Jadon Daniels and craft Jade Daniels

707
00:32:10,813 --> 00:32:12,293
Speaker 2: because the Washington wasn't going to make it.

708
00:32:12,773 --> 00:32:15,173
Speaker 1: So the Joe Alt injury is a big deal, especially

709
00:32:15,213 --> 00:32:18,733
Speaker 1: considering how well Justin Herbs played. That one's going to

710
00:32:18,773 --> 00:32:21,693
Speaker 1: be and the Chargers offensive line has let him down

711
00:32:21,733 --> 00:32:22,933
Speaker 1: at the end of these seasons.

712
00:32:23,093 --> 00:32:26,573
Speaker 2: I kind of wonder if that's about to happen again. Right,

713
00:32:27,013 --> 00:32:28,653
Speaker 2: Is that your entire news?

714
00:32:28,733 --> 00:32:32,253
Speaker 4: I have one more. It's more like a personal thing here.

715
00:32:32,373 --> 00:32:33,733
Speaker 4: The Bengals a special to you.

716
00:32:33,893 --> 00:32:34,053
Speaker 2: Yeah.

717
00:32:34,173 --> 00:32:36,413
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a crusade of mine. This year in the NFL.

718
00:32:36,453 --> 00:32:40,213
Speaker 4: The Bengals, the Bengals, the washel teams coordinators said.

719
00:32:40,293 --> 00:32:41,453
Speaker 2: White team, are you talking about?

720
00:32:41,493 --> 00:32:44,973
Speaker 4: Bingals said that their their special team coordinator had a

721
00:32:44,973 --> 00:32:48,253
Speaker 4: press conference and he said that Evan McPherson's fifty four

722
00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:50,413
Speaker 4: yard field goal that came up short was with a

723
00:32:50,533 --> 00:32:53,933
Speaker 4: quarterback ball, not a kicker ball. Because the field goal

724
00:32:54,013 --> 00:32:56,653
Speaker 4: unit came on after the play clock started, the kicking

725
00:32:56,653 --> 00:33:00,173
Speaker 4: team had to use the quarterback ball, confirming our theory

726
00:33:00,213 --> 00:33:02,373
Speaker 4: that these balls are different the kickers are kicking.

727
00:33:03,253 --> 00:33:05,813
Speaker 2: I was at that game when he came up short.

728
00:33:06,453 --> 00:33:10,813
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I had this exact thought that

729
00:33:10,893 --> 00:33:14,093
Speaker 1: had to be the other ball. Had to because and

730
00:33:14,213 --> 00:33:16,453
Speaker 1: I'm going to say again, the NFL has to stop

731
00:33:16,493 --> 00:33:20,373
Speaker 1: letting them do this. They can't this moving from kickerball

732
00:33:20,693 --> 00:33:23,613
Speaker 1: to regular ball, to me is a huge mistake because

733
00:33:23,773 --> 00:33:26,333
Speaker 1: in the moment, the fans and other team may not

734
00:33:26,453 --> 00:33:29,733
Speaker 1: even know right. So if you're the defense, you might

735
00:33:29,853 --> 00:33:31,893
Speaker 1: choose to put on a field goal block or not

736
00:33:32,533 --> 00:33:34,933
Speaker 1: based on whether or not it's the kicker ball or

737
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:39,053
Speaker 1: the quarterback ball. So I when a fifty four yard

738
00:33:39,053 --> 00:33:42,093
Speaker 1: field goal in the NFL comes up short, my initial

739
00:33:42,213 --> 00:33:45,213
Speaker 1: inclination is going to be And the Bears had one too.

740
00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:47,373
Speaker 1: The Bears had one at the end of regulation that

741
00:33:47,453 --> 00:33:50,613
Speaker 1: I think was also and it was kiro Central and

742
00:33:50,653 --> 00:33:53,973
Speaker 1: he left it short. I think in both circumstances it

743
00:33:54,013 --> 00:33:56,053
Speaker 1: was because it was the other ball they got to

744
00:33:56,053 --> 00:33:57,853
Speaker 1: get rid of that drew you to have. There's got

745
00:33:57,893 --> 00:34:00,413
Speaker 1: to be It's like one ring in Lord of the Rings.

746
00:34:00,453 --> 00:34:02,853
Speaker 1: You got to have one ball for all and then

747
00:34:02,933 --> 00:34:03,893
Speaker 1: let it be whatever.

748
00:34:03,973 --> 00:34:04,333
Speaker 2: It is.

749
00:34:05,133 --> 00:34:08,252
Speaker 3: Kind of reminds me of the college basketball debate when

750
00:34:08,252 --> 00:34:10,172
Speaker 3: they get to the tournament that one's bouncing all out

751
00:34:10,212 --> 00:34:13,133
Speaker 3: of control. They have different turnovers. It's like just one ball,

752
00:34:13,293 --> 00:34:15,732
Speaker 3: like use the ball. Everyone used the same type of ball.

753
00:34:16,493 --> 00:34:17,172
Speaker 3: I did do that.

754
00:34:17,212 --> 00:34:19,892
Speaker 1: You don't get to on match point bringing in a

755
00:34:20,013 --> 00:34:23,093
Speaker 1: special tennis serve ball, Like you got to use the

756
00:34:23,133 --> 00:34:24,773
Speaker 1: same ball the entire time.

757
00:34:25,613 --> 00:34:28,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, they used to make golf balls that were illegal.

758
00:34:28,212 --> 00:34:30,253
Speaker 3: You could hit him a lot farther, you know, Tiger

759
00:34:30,292 --> 00:34:32,293
Speaker 3: Woods and out there switching him out of his pocket

760
00:34:32,372 --> 00:34:34,133
Speaker 3: when he's in a tournament or anything.

761
00:34:34,332 --> 00:34:34,492
Speaker 2: Now.

762
00:34:34,533 --> 00:34:37,412
Speaker 3: I did have one other takeaway though from Evan McPherson.

763
00:34:37,493 --> 00:34:39,453
Speaker 3: I think he was just trying to defend his coach

764
00:34:39,812 --> 00:34:41,412
Speaker 3: because people are a little mad that they didn't get

765
00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:43,732
Speaker 3: the kicking ball out. It was the Bengals uncertainty that

766
00:34:43,812 --> 00:34:46,332
Speaker 3: led to this, But Evan McPherson said, no, it was

767
00:34:46,372 --> 00:34:48,332
Speaker 3: a good kick. I give it like a seven out

768
00:34:48,332 --> 00:34:51,692
Speaker 3: of ten. My thought is, dude, you're an NFL kicker.

769
00:34:51,772 --> 00:34:54,093
Speaker 3: Seven out of ten isn't really something I would confess

770
00:34:54,212 --> 00:34:56,092
Speaker 3: that's not that good of an effort. There are probably

771
00:34:56,133 --> 00:34:57,812
Speaker 3: a lot of people that can give a seven out

772
00:34:57,852 --> 00:34:58,452
Speaker 3: of ten kick.

773
00:34:58,692 --> 00:34:59,292
Speaker 2: But that was his.

774
00:34:59,332 --> 00:35:00,613
Speaker 3: Reasoning for why I left it shore.

775
00:35:00,692 --> 00:35:02,412
Speaker 2: I hope he was just taking one for this is me.

776
00:35:02,852 --> 00:35:04,732
Speaker 1: I don't think kicking is out on a one to

777
00:35:04,812 --> 00:35:07,772
Speaker 1: ten scale, or make it or you don't like I

778
00:35:07,812 --> 00:35:11,652
Speaker 1: don't think like you know, seven out of ten, you

779
00:35:11,692 --> 00:35:14,093
Speaker 1: came up short on a fifty four yarder. What's a

780
00:35:14,172 --> 00:35:16,692
Speaker 1: five out of ten? You just kick it thirty yards

781
00:35:16,732 --> 00:35:20,253
Speaker 1: like you gotta make it or you don't. I am

782
00:35:20,573 --> 00:35:22,692
Speaker 1: this is going to be my crusade in the offseason.

783
00:35:23,133 --> 00:35:26,053
Speaker 1: Get rid of the other ball. You do not you

784
00:35:26,093 --> 00:35:28,972
Speaker 1: don't get in golf. Take when you're on the green. Okay,

785
00:35:29,013 --> 00:35:31,133
Speaker 1: I'm going to put a tennis ball instead of a

786
00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:31,973
Speaker 1: golf ball on it.

787
00:35:32,093 --> 00:35:36,812
Speaker 2: You don't get a different thing. I'm very adamantly against

788
00:35:37,093 --> 00:35:38,932
Speaker 2: this other ball. If you want to have to kick

789
00:35:38,973 --> 00:35:41,453
Speaker 2: a ball, be the regular ball, then do that. But Billy,

790
00:35:41,453 --> 00:35:42,172
Speaker 2: you're with me on this.

791
00:35:42,292 --> 00:35:44,613
Speaker 4: I'm with you one thousand percent. This should be our

792
00:35:44,652 --> 00:35:46,053
Speaker 4: off season cruse, no doubt.

793
00:35:46,732 --> 00:35:50,053
Speaker 2: Yes, Well it will be expect to see me storm

794
00:35:50,413 --> 00:35:52,812
Speaker 2: the office. I'm going to pick it outside of the

795
00:35:53,292 --> 00:35:57,893
Speaker 2: NFL offices and I'm going to say make balls equal again.

796
00:35:58,013 --> 00:36:00,773
Speaker 2: That's all my sign is going to say. And people

797
00:36:00,812 --> 00:36:02,772
Speaker 2: may not know what I mean, but I'm going to

798
00:36:02,812 --> 00:36:05,493
Speaker 2: do it either way. All right, let's talk about the

799
00:36:05,533 --> 00:36:09,053
Speaker 2: games this week. First of all, on Thursday Night you

800
00:36:09,093 --> 00:36:12,892
Speaker 2: get Raiders and Broncos. Raiders are two and six, the

801
00:36:12,933 --> 00:36:15,532
Speaker 2: Broncos are seven and two. The Broncos are a nine

802
00:36:15,613 --> 00:36:18,933
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite on Thursday night, two West

803
00:36:18,973 --> 00:36:21,492
Speaker 2: Coast teams. As a sports bar owner, I just sit

804
00:36:21,573 --> 00:36:24,053
Speaker 2: and see Raiders Broncos on Thursday night and go, well,

805
00:36:24,332 --> 00:36:26,332
Speaker 2: our bar will be empty for this one. But are

806
00:36:26,413 --> 00:36:29,492
Speaker 2: there reasons to what to watch it on Thursday night?

807
00:36:29,613 --> 00:36:34,652
Speaker 2: Beyond beyond the fact it's just football?

808
00:36:34,812 --> 00:36:37,093
Speaker 3: Who I'm trying to think of good reasons. You know,

809
00:36:37,172 --> 00:36:39,853
Speaker 3: this traditionally has been a good rivalry, but the Raiders

810
00:36:39,852 --> 00:36:42,772
Speaker 3: are not good this year. They beat the Patriots in

811
00:36:42,812 --> 00:36:44,692
Speaker 3: the first game of the season and it has just

812
00:36:44,732 --> 00:36:47,932
Speaker 3: been all bad ever since. I'll be tuned in because

813
00:36:47,973 --> 00:36:49,692
Speaker 3: you know, we NFL cover zero. We have to cover

814
00:36:49,772 --> 00:36:52,212
Speaker 3: this stuff. But it is not a marquee matchup for

815
00:36:52,252 --> 00:36:55,172
Speaker 3: your prime time time slot, and that's on the Raiders end.

816
00:36:55,212 --> 00:36:57,813
Speaker 3: They got to be better. Yeah, I mean they're gonna

817
00:36:59,453 --> 00:37:02,572
Speaker 3: Boenick's got a chance to go eight and two. I'm

818
00:37:02,613 --> 00:37:03,332
Speaker 3: still not sure.

819
00:37:03,372 --> 00:37:06,133
Speaker 1: I think they're good, to be quite frank with you,

820
00:37:06,133 --> 00:37:07,973
Speaker 1: they should have lost the game against the Giants. I

821
00:37:08,013 --> 00:37:10,812
Speaker 1: mean they probably should be like five and four. Uh,

822
00:37:10,852 --> 00:37:13,612
Speaker 1: and they're gonna they'll be eight and two after this game.

823
00:37:13,772 --> 00:37:15,692
Speaker 1: You look at their schedule, they got a bunch of

824
00:37:15,692 --> 00:37:18,372
Speaker 1: winnable games. I mean they're actually in contention for the

825
00:37:18,413 --> 00:37:21,492
Speaker 1: one seed, and they are a team where home field

826
00:37:21,533 --> 00:37:22,252
Speaker 1: advantage can.

827
00:37:22,212 --> 00:37:26,212
Speaker 2: Make a big difference because of the altitude. Uh.

828
00:37:26,252 --> 00:37:29,613
Speaker 1: And you know everyone says players get tired when they're there.

829
00:37:29,852 --> 00:37:31,293
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if I always

830
00:37:31,292 --> 00:37:32,052
Speaker 2: believe that either.

831
00:37:32,093 --> 00:37:36,973
Speaker 1: But regardless, they'll win this one Thursday night on the

832
00:37:37,053 --> 00:37:40,413
Speaker 1: road for Vegas. You know, Pete carrellby asleep by halftime,

833
00:37:40,493 --> 00:37:43,213
Speaker 1: So I think there's h I think there's a good chance.

834
00:37:43,573 --> 00:37:45,652
Speaker 1: You know, seven o'clock, you'll already have been to show

835
00:37:45,732 --> 00:38:02,332
Speaker 1: he's back. When it's when it's open and it's now

836
00:38:02,413 --> 00:38:05,133
Speaker 1: time for the victory. Bud Noll presented by Liberty Mutual.

837
00:38:05,652 --> 00:38:09,212
Speaker 1: We three games that are picks of the week. By

838
00:38:09,252 --> 00:38:11,292
Speaker 1: the way, we won this last week, So if you're

839
00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:15,172
Speaker 1: following at home, and I hope you are, you will

840
00:38:15,172 --> 00:38:18,332
Speaker 1: be winning money. I'm sitting here looking at this. It's

841
00:38:18,372 --> 00:38:22,212
Speaker 1: a tough schedule because, for obvious reasons, a lot of

842
00:38:22,252 --> 00:38:25,452
Speaker 1: these games are, you know, close, A lot of these

843
00:38:25,493 --> 00:38:27,333
Speaker 1: teams are very closely matched.

844
00:38:28,252 --> 00:38:32,892
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go.

845
00:38:34,852 --> 00:38:37,572
Speaker 1: With boy, this is a Looking at these, I don't

846
00:38:37,652 --> 00:38:40,692
Speaker 1: love any of these, but I think I'm gonna do.

847
00:38:44,573 --> 00:38:46,533
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do the Bucks to cover the

848
00:38:46,573 --> 00:38:50,452
Speaker 1: two and a half, all right and win against the Patriots.

849
00:38:51,812 --> 00:38:54,093
Speaker 1: Drake may has been great, but they've been blessed with

850
00:38:54,133 --> 00:38:57,573
Speaker 1: an easy schedule. The Bucks are at home, so give

851
00:38:57,652 --> 00:39:01,333
Speaker 1: me Tampa Bay as the first of our Liberty Mutual

852
00:39:01,692 --> 00:39:02,613
Speaker 1: Victory Bundle.

853
00:39:02,652 --> 00:39:03,492
Speaker 2: What about you, Drew.

854
00:39:04,812 --> 00:39:07,012
Speaker 3: I was worried you were going to take my There's

855
00:39:07,053 --> 00:39:10,332
Speaker 3: a new wide receiver in the NFL that burst onto

856
00:39:10,372 --> 00:39:13,252
Speaker 3: the scene last week and his name is Caleb Williams.

857
00:39:13,252 --> 00:39:16,133
Speaker 3: And I think the Bears hosting the Giants are going

858
00:39:16,212 --> 00:39:18,932
Speaker 3: to show off more of that flashy offense. They're still

859
00:39:19,013 --> 00:39:21,412
Speaker 3: riding high from that Loveland touchdown catch.

860
00:39:21,172 --> 00:39:21,933
Speaker 2: That you were there for.

861
00:39:22,692 --> 00:39:26,012
Speaker 3: Giants are going the other way, losing cam Skataboo killed

862
00:39:26,053 --> 00:39:29,292
Speaker 3: any motive, momentum and swag that that team has. So

863
00:39:29,372 --> 00:39:32,252
Speaker 3: I like your Bears at home against a Giants team

864
00:39:32,292 --> 00:39:33,212
Speaker 3: going the wrong direction.

865
00:39:33,493 --> 00:39:36,372
Speaker 1: I've been through this a lot over the years. You

866
00:39:36,413 --> 00:39:38,372
Speaker 1: get a big win and then you come back and

867
00:39:38,413 --> 00:39:41,372
Speaker 1: you lose a bad game right after it. So I'm

868
00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:44,532
Speaker 1: a little concerned about that one. But I like your

869
00:39:45,252 --> 00:39:46,812
Speaker 1: I like your hope, I like.

870
00:39:46,812 --> 00:39:51,332
Speaker 2: Your desire, and I like your optimism, So I will

871
00:39:51,372 --> 00:39:52,013
Speaker 2: go ahead and take it.

872
00:39:52,053 --> 00:39:54,172
Speaker 1: I'm going to say I think for my next one,

873
00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:56,212
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna do a rare under.

874
00:39:56,652 --> 00:39:59,692
Speaker 2: Are you ready for a rare under? We're gonna love total.

875
00:39:59,933 --> 00:40:03,692
Speaker 1: It's going to take Bucks to cover, You're taking Bears

876
00:40:03,692 --> 00:40:05,772
Speaker 1: to cover, and I'm going to do the Lions in

877
00:40:05,772 --> 00:40:08,933
Speaker 1: command forty nine and a half. I'm going to go under.

878
00:40:09,372 --> 00:40:13,093
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota is going to be starting for the Commanders.

879
00:40:13,372 --> 00:40:15,652
Speaker 1: I think the only chance the Commanders have to win

880
00:40:15,812 --> 00:40:18,252
Speaker 1: is to keep the game slow and try to win

881
00:40:18,292 --> 00:40:21,133
Speaker 1: it in kind of a ground and pound. Also, I

882
00:40:21,133 --> 00:40:24,093
Speaker 1: believe the weather is supposed to be really bad there

883
00:40:24,093 --> 00:40:28,332
Speaker 1: in Washington, I'm keeping track of all weather related items

884
00:40:28,652 --> 00:40:31,133
Speaker 1: for the NFL this week, so I will take Lions

885
00:40:31,212 --> 00:40:34,852
Speaker 1: and Commanders under So you throw those together and that

886
00:40:34,893 --> 00:40:38,093
Speaker 1: will be your victory bundle, presented by Liberty Mutual.

887
00:40:38,372 --> 00:40:41,333
Speaker 2: Start your quote at libertymutual dot com.

888
00:40:41,413 --> 00:40:43,613
Speaker 1: Let's look at some of the other games, not worrying

889
00:40:43,652 --> 00:40:45,892
Speaker 1: so much about against the spread, etc.

890
00:40:47,332 --> 00:40:49,892
Speaker 2: Jets and Browns. Who's the worst? Who you got?

891
00:40:49,973 --> 00:40:52,372
Speaker 1: Jets lose all their defense. Do you say Cleveland goes

892
00:40:52,413 --> 00:40:53,052
Speaker 1: and gets the win?

893
00:40:54,613 --> 00:40:58,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cleveland's getting this one. Jets, I'm glad you got

894
00:40:58,613 --> 00:41:00,852
Speaker 3: a bunch of draft picks. Enjoy taking the rest of

895
00:41:00,852 --> 00:41:03,692
Speaker 3: the year off until the draft next spring. You're not

896
00:41:03,772 --> 00:41:06,013
Speaker 3: winning another game. So Browns take this one.

897
00:41:06,413 --> 00:41:08,973
Speaker 1: And forty nine Ers could be for the one seed,

898
00:41:10,533 --> 00:41:12,573
Speaker 1: or excuse me, could be for the NFC West and

899
00:41:12,652 --> 00:41:16,013
Speaker 1: a contender for the one seed. Forty nine ers schedule

900
00:41:16,053 --> 00:41:18,972
Speaker 1: if they win this one, even though they're six and three,

901
00:41:19,093 --> 00:41:20,213
Speaker 1: things look really good.

902
00:41:20,652 --> 00:41:22,772
Speaker 2: Rams are four and a half point favorite. Do you like?

903
00:41:22,893 --> 00:41:25,573
Speaker 1: It's a late game on Fox, probably will be the

904
00:41:25,613 --> 00:41:27,293
Speaker 1: centerpiece game of that slot.

905
00:41:27,332 --> 00:41:27,892
Speaker 2: Who do you like?

906
00:41:31,292 --> 00:41:34,093
Speaker 3: I kind of want to do the upset? They're not pretty?

907
00:41:34,133 --> 00:41:36,613
Speaker 3: Is nud back right, Not that would matter that much

908
00:41:36,613 --> 00:41:38,852
Speaker 3: because those two seem to be the identical quarterbacks. I'm

909
00:41:38,852 --> 00:41:40,573
Speaker 3: going to say the Rams, but that plus four and

910
00:41:40,573 --> 00:41:42,332
Speaker 3: a half is a little high for me on a

911
00:41:42,372 --> 00:41:44,372
Speaker 3: forty nine ers team that I don't even like. I

912
00:41:44,453 --> 00:41:46,573
Speaker 3: just feel like that spreads pretty big. But I'm gonna

913
00:41:46,933 --> 00:41:49,933
Speaker 3: tiptoe into a Rams pick. I think the Rams. This

914
00:41:50,852 --> 00:41:55,812
Speaker 3: entire season, the Rams games have seemed sort of oddly

915
00:41:55,933 --> 00:42:00,052
Speaker 3: anonymous to me. I don't really remember much about.

916
00:41:59,732 --> 00:42:02,852
Speaker 2: Any of them. I think this is a huge one

917
00:42:02,852 --> 00:42:03,133
Speaker 2: for him.

918
00:42:03,212 --> 00:42:06,092
Speaker 1: They are set up as Billy showcased with the odd

919
00:42:06,332 --> 00:42:08,772
Speaker 1: to get the one seed. I think if they win

920
00:42:08,852 --> 00:42:11,292
Speaker 1: this game, they got a really good chance. These teams

921
00:42:11,292 --> 00:42:15,493
Speaker 1: will play again, but they'll play in La. So I

922
00:42:15,613 --> 00:42:17,252
Speaker 1: like the Rams to win the game, and I think

923
00:42:17,292 --> 00:42:20,573
Speaker 1: it's a good opportunity for them. You know, it's not

924
00:42:20,613 --> 00:42:22,372
Speaker 1: that the Rams have a great home field, but the

925
00:42:22,372 --> 00:42:24,013
Speaker 1: biggest thing is that they don't have to go to

926
00:42:24,053 --> 00:42:26,613
Speaker 1: a home field. If they don't have to go to Philadelphia,

927
00:42:26,772 --> 00:42:28,812
Speaker 1: they don't have to go to Detroit, they don't have

928
00:42:28,852 --> 00:42:29,813
Speaker 1: to go to Green Bay.

929
00:42:30,172 --> 00:42:32,532
Speaker 2: I think he gives them a lot better shot. Sunday Nights,

930
00:42:32,533 --> 00:42:37,613
Speaker 2: the Steelers. In the Chargers Aaron Rodgers, is he bounced

931
00:42:37,613 --> 00:42:40,013
Speaker 2: back here and get a win. They still are sitting

932
00:42:40,093 --> 00:42:40,893
Speaker 2: five and three.

933
00:42:41,013 --> 00:42:44,012
Speaker 1: I mean, the embarrassing loss of the Packers, notwithstanding beat

934
00:42:44,013 --> 00:42:44,573
Speaker 1: the Colts.

935
00:42:44,852 --> 00:42:46,573
Speaker 2: Can he get one in La here?

936
00:42:48,252 --> 00:42:51,252
Speaker 3: I've been a big Chargers believer, but Justin Herbert just

937
00:42:51,332 --> 00:42:56,892
Speaker 3: keeps getting absolutely pummeled in that backfield. I'm gonna trust him.

938
00:42:56,933 --> 00:43:00,093
Speaker 3: Though they went and they made a last minute trade

939
00:43:00,133 --> 00:43:02,772
Speaker 3: to replace Joe Alt. We'll see if that works. But

940
00:43:02,772 --> 00:43:05,212
Speaker 3: I'm gonna believe in the Chargers just a little bit longer,

941
00:43:05,292 --> 00:43:07,053
Speaker 3: but they're gonna get him if they don't fix that

942
00:43:07,093 --> 00:43:07,893
Speaker 3: offensive one.

943
00:43:09,413 --> 00:43:13,652
Speaker 2: This just feels like a game where Aaron Rodgers frustrates

944
00:43:13,692 --> 00:43:16,972
Speaker 2: me and gets the win. It's Sunday night football. We're

945
00:43:17,013 --> 00:43:20,093
Speaker 2: gonna get to hear some collins Worth moaning. I mean,

946
00:43:20,133 --> 00:43:22,492
Speaker 2: these are two of his favorites, right. It's kind of

947
00:43:22,573 --> 00:43:28,133
Speaker 2: his og. Aaron Rodgers and his new school Aaron Rodgers

948
00:43:28,172 --> 00:43:31,093
Speaker 2: with Justin Herbert. He loves, he loves the way both

949
00:43:31,133 --> 00:43:34,652
Speaker 2: those guys play. We're gonna get some Madison beer.

950
00:43:34,772 --> 00:43:38,133
Speaker 1: We're probably gonna get whatever new Aaron Rodgers will say

951
00:43:38,212 --> 00:43:40,493
Speaker 1: that with the LA media I'm sure he'll say something

952
00:43:40,533 --> 00:43:44,133
Speaker 1: about redistricting or something just to get everybody angry. So

953
00:43:45,013 --> 00:43:46,932
Speaker 1: this feels like one where he gets it. So I'm

954
00:43:46,933 --> 00:43:49,893
Speaker 1: gonna take the Chargers. Then Monday Night Football Eagles Packers.

955
00:43:50,093 --> 00:43:53,013
Speaker 1: This is maybe the best Monday Night game remaining on

956
00:43:53,053 --> 00:43:56,612
Speaker 1: the schedule this year. Packers take an embarrassing loss last

957
00:43:56,652 --> 00:44:01,613
Speaker 1: week at home to the Panthers. Do they bounce back?

958
00:44:01,772 --> 00:44:04,053
Speaker 1: This is the kind of game where I feel like,

959
00:44:04,093 --> 00:44:05,492
Speaker 1: if the Packers are going to be a team that

960
00:44:05,533 --> 00:44:08,292
Speaker 1: I caret in terms of contending, I think they need

961
00:44:08,292 --> 00:44:08,692
Speaker 1: to win it.

962
00:44:10,292 --> 00:44:11,332
Speaker 2: I'm taking the Eagles.

963
00:44:11,453 --> 00:44:14,013
Speaker 3: I know it's a tough place to play. Heck, the

964
00:44:14,013 --> 00:44:15,892
Speaker 3: Packers probably want to be wearing green and yellow. They'll

965
00:44:15,893 --> 00:44:18,093
Speaker 3: probably find a new alternate uniform that we won't even

966
00:44:18,093 --> 00:44:20,252
Speaker 3: recognize me halftime before we realize it's the Packers that

967
00:44:20,292 --> 00:44:20,733
Speaker 3: are playing.

968
00:44:20,973 --> 00:44:22,212
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with the Eagles.

969
00:44:22,613 --> 00:44:24,372
Speaker 3: I know they had that two game scared a few

970
00:44:24,372 --> 00:44:27,292
Speaker 3: weeks ago, but they've corrected things since the offense is

971
00:44:27,292 --> 00:44:30,772
Speaker 3: more balanced. AJ Brown's not subtweeting anymore. I think the

972
00:44:30,812 --> 00:44:32,892
Speaker 3: Eagles will figured it out and they'll when this one. Yeah,

973
00:44:32,933 --> 00:44:36,732
Speaker 3: anytime you don't have aj Brown, subtweeting, that's good. I'm shocked.

974
00:44:36,812 --> 00:44:39,373
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm shocked. The Packers are the favorite. Packers

975
00:44:39,372 --> 00:44:42,692
Speaker 3: are two and a half point favorite. It's a little

976
00:44:42,732 --> 00:44:45,212
Speaker 3: surprising to me, isn't it. You You lose at home

977
00:44:45,252 --> 00:44:48,053
Speaker 3: to the Panthers and then you are the and I

978
00:44:48,053 --> 00:44:50,453
Speaker 3: think it opened maybe at Eagles being the favor of

979
00:44:50,453 --> 00:44:53,212
Speaker 3: the money has all been on the Packers. Let me

980
00:44:53,212 --> 00:44:55,492
Speaker 3: go ahead and get that bet in now before the

981
00:44:55,533 --> 00:44:57,892
Speaker 3: weekend crowd gets there and bets. It moves the line

982
00:44:57,893 --> 00:45:00,013
Speaker 3: a little bit because I agree that's I like the

983
00:45:00,053 --> 00:45:01,692
Speaker 3: Eagles here, and if you're gonna give me points, I'll

984
00:45:01,732 --> 00:45:02,452
Speaker 3: jump on that.

985
00:45:02,493 --> 00:45:04,772
Speaker 2: Two and a half. I think it opened with I

986
00:45:04,772 --> 00:45:06,053
Speaker 2: think it opened with the Eagles being.

987
00:45:05,973 --> 00:45:08,013
Speaker 1: A one and a half point favorite, and it has

988
00:45:08,053 --> 00:45:10,212
Speaker 1: already flipped to Packers two and a half, so a

989
00:45:10,212 --> 00:45:15,133
Speaker 1: lot of early money. It just surprises me, especially you know,

990
00:45:15,292 --> 00:45:17,053
Speaker 1: I still think the Eagles have the most talent.

991
00:45:17,093 --> 00:45:19,652
Speaker 2: They just made this trade a couple of trades.

992
00:45:19,732 --> 00:45:22,973
Speaker 1: I like them. I'm a little bit surprised by that. Now, Billy,

993
00:45:23,013 --> 00:45:27,172
Speaker 1: it is we got to do our survivor pool. I'm

994
00:45:27,212 --> 00:45:31,172
Speaker 1: sitting here. The amount of attempting to try to understand

995
00:45:31,172 --> 00:45:33,973
Speaker 1: my handwriting has gone away, But I'm gonna read you

996
00:45:34,013 --> 00:45:35,052
Speaker 1: who I think you've picked.

997
00:45:35,613 --> 00:45:38,812
Speaker 2: I picked. I think you've picked the Patriots, the Jaguars,

998
00:45:38,893 --> 00:45:42,252
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, the Bills, the Chargers, the Colts, and the Chiefs.

999
00:45:42,332 --> 00:45:44,692
Speaker 2: You get to pick first. You and I are the

1000
00:45:44,692 --> 00:45:47,492
Speaker 2: only two left now.

1001
00:45:48,053 --> 00:45:50,933
Speaker 1: The game that seems the most obvious is Bill's Dolphins.

1002
00:45:50,933 --> 00:45:54,012
Speaker 1: But you don't get to pick the Bills. So who

1003
00:45:54,013 --> 00:45:55,812
Speaker 1: are you going to take? In the survivor leak?

1004
00:45:55,933 --> 00:45:59,332
Speaker 4: And I'm going with the Seahawks over the Cardinals. Jacoby

1005
00:45:59,332 --> 00:46:02,492
Speaker 4: Bursett maybe the starter, but he's not getting it done here. Well,

1006
00:46:02,493 --> 00:46:05,053
Speaker 4: you're going to advance and move on with Seattle and

1007
00:46:05,172 --> 00:46:06,093
Speaker 4: Sam Darney.

1008
00:46:08,332 --> 00:46:09,732
Speaker 2: Boy, I think it's a nerd. That would be a

1009
00:46:09,732 --> 00:46:12,613
Speaker 2: nerve wracking pick for me on paper at home. But

1010
00:46:12,692 --> 00:46:15,613
Speaker 2: the Cardinals just they find a way sometimes in these.

1011
00:46:15,453 --> 00:46:18,013
Speaker 4: Games divisional opponent I try to stay away from.

1012
00:46:18,053 --> 00:46:20,452
Speaker 2: But I try to stay away from that too.

1013
00:46:20,573 --> 00:46:22,852
Speaker 1: Although with my pick, I mean, I feel like I

1014
00:46:22,852 --> 00:46:24,532
Speaker 1: don't have a choice. I think I have to pick

1015
00:46:24,573 --> 00:46:27,172
Speaker 1: the Bills. I have not picked them yet. They get

1016
00:46:27,212 --> 00:46:29,412
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. It is on the road, and if you

1017
00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:32,973
Speaker 1: look historically, the Bills have had some weird problems with

1018
00:46:33,093 --> 00:46:36,093
Speaker 1: this game in Miami, including when Miami has not been good.

1019
00:46:36,533 --> 00:46:38,892
Speaker 1: If you remember, Tom Brady did the same thing. He

1020
00:46:39,013 --> 00:46:41,172
Speaker 1: used to have problems against the Dolphins on the road

1021
00:46:41,172 --> 00:46:42,093
Speaker 1: even when they weren't good.

1022
00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:43,452
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why that is.

1023
00:46:43,413 --> 00:46:46,772
Speaker 1: The case, but I'm going to go with the I'm

1024
00:46:46,812 --> 00:46:48,732
Speaker 1: going to go with the Bills, and so we'll see

1025
00:46:48,772 --> 00:46:50,453
Speaker 1: if we continue to go on the Survivor League. Do

1026
00:46:50,493 --> 00:46:52,812
Speaker 1: we know what percentage of people are still left in

1027
00:46:52,852 --> 00:46:56,172
Speaker 1: their various Survivor leagues around because you and I continue

1028
00:46:56,172 --> 00:46:58,892
Speaker 1: to remain in this one while Drew sits anonymously and

1029
00:46:59,252 --> 00:46:59,493
Speaker 1: is not.

1030
00:47:00,093 --> 00:47:03,252
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure a number on most leagues. But

1031
00:47:03,533 --> 00:47:05,212
Speaker 4: you know, Drew's been out a while at this point.

1032
00:47:05,212 --> 00:47:06,892
Speaker 4: I mean, he could have started whole another game and

1033
00:47:07,172 --> 00:47:08,252
Speaker 4: gotten eliminated again.

1034
00:47:08,772 --> 00:47:11,093
Speaker 1: It's kind of embarrassing how bad Drew's done if you

1035
00:47:11,093 --> 00:47:11,772
Speaker 1: think about it.

1036
00:47:12,652 --> 00:47:14,292
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I just get to sit here and

1037
00:47:14,613 --> 00:47:16,252
Speaker 3: sit back and watch you all do this segment. I'm

1038
00:47:16,372 --> 00:47:19,292
Speaker 3: en joint listing. You don't have to work at all

1039
00:47:19,413 --> 00:47:23,252
Speaker 3: during it. You could just uh you look at the

1040
00:47:23,292 --> 00:47:24,013
Speaker 3: other choices.

1041
00:47:24,332 --> 00:47:26,053
Speaker 2: The thing is, all these games are even I mean,

1042
00:47:26,093 --> 00:47:28,533
Speaker 2: I guess you could take the Broncos against the Raiders

1043
00:47:28,533 --> 00:47:30,053
Speaker 2: on Thursday Night Football, or.

1044
00:47:30,053 --> 00:47:33,332
Speaker 4: Carolina you wanted to against the Saints. I mean, I'm all.

1045
00:47:33,772 --> 00:47:37,532
Speaker 1: I would never I would never take Carolina against the Saints. Yeah,

1046
00:47:37,613 --> 00:47:39,573
Speaker 1: I mean the Saints. The Saints are going to win

1047
00:47:39,613 --> 00:47:41,613
Speaker 1: one of these games against the NFC South. The Saints

1048
00:47:41,652 --> 00:47:43,533
Speaker 1: are going to beat either of the Panthers or the

1049
00:47:43,573 --> 00:47:45,373
Speaker 1: Falcons in the coming weeks.

1050
00:47:45,652 --> 00:47:48,013
Speaker 2: It just depends on which one it is. Now, we

1051
00:47:48,053 --> 00:47:53,413
Speaker 2: also have to do our touchdown pool. I'm leading four

1052
00:47:53,533 --> 00:47:57,773
Speaker 2: to three to one right now, and it looks like, Billy,

1053
00:47:57,812 --> 00:48:00,533
Speaker 2: you do get to pick first in this one as well.

1054
00:48:00,613 --> 00:48:01,532
Speaker 2: So what are you going to take?

1055
00:48:01,652 --> 00:48:03,852
Speaker 4: Okay, you know it took a lot of heat talking

1056
00:48:03,893 --> 00:48:06,692
Speaker 4: about JJ McCarthy last week. I am going to be

1057
00:48:06,692 --> 00:48:09,652
Speaker 4: a believer this week. I'm going to say Justin Jefferson

1058
00:48:09,652 --> 00:48:12,573
Speaker 4: scores a touchdown. He's only had two all year. I

1059
00:48:12,573 --> 00:48:14,013
Speaker 4: think he's going to revert back to the mean a

1060
00:48:14,013 --> 00:48:15,893
Speaker 4: little bit. I think he gets a touchdown and JJ

1061
00:48:15,973 --> 00:48:17,253
Speaker 4: McCarthy has a big.

1062
00:48:17,172 --> 00:48:20,333
Speaker 2: Day, only two all year, and you're pick him.

1063
00:48:20,212 --> 00:48:21,292
Speaker 4: Right here, let's do it.

1064
00:48:22,772 --> 00:48:26,253
Speaker 2: Wow. I do like your confidence in all these things.

1065
00:48:26,252 --> 00:48:29,813
Speaker 1: You you stick with it, and you go with even

1066
00:48:30,332 --> 00:48:32,493
Speaker 1: odd like players on all of them.

1067
00:48:33,252 --> 00:48:35,613
Speaker 2: So that means I got to go with a quarterback

1068
00:48:36,453 --> 00:48:40,932
Speaker 2: or wide receiver. You know, I've generally enjoyed picking quarterbacks.

1069
00:48:40,973 --> 00:48:43,852
Speaker 2: I've picked almost all of them. So let me look

1070
00:48:43,893 --> 00:48:44,493
Speaker 2: here and see.

1071
00:48:44,533 --> 00:48:46,452
Speaker 1: I'm going to take one where I think somebody's going

1072
00:48:46,533 --> 00:48:47,732
Speaker 1: to score a lot of points.

1073
00:48:48,533 --> 00:48:56,852
Speaker 2: So, hm, well, I'm going to take a running back.

1074
00:48:56,933 --> 00:48:59,093
Speaker 1: I guess if I picked Jonathan Taylor, No, I have,

1075
00:48:59,413 --> 00:49:01,332
Speaker 1: so I'll take B John Robinson. I think of B

1076
00:49:01,453 --> 00:49:06,692
Speaker 1: John Robinson scores and they're going to Berlin. Feels like

1077
00:49:06,772 --> 00:49:09,093
Speaker 1: he will use this as a chance to score a

1078
00:49:09,133 --> 00:49:13,892
Speaker 1: touchdown in Berlin and get his German flair going. So

1079
00:49:13,973 --> 00:49:16,932
Speaker 1: give me Bjohn Robinson, which leaves Drew. You have to

1080
00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:17,692
Speaker 1: pick a quarterback.

1081
00:49:17,692 --> 00:49:18,252
Speaker 2: Who do you want?

1082
00:49:19,493 --> 00:49:21,492
Speaker 3: I think I've only done a quarterback once before? Did

1083
00:49:21,533 --> 00:49:23,332
Speaker 3: I do Josh Allen? Have I used Hurts yet? That's

1084
00:49:23,372 --> 00:49:24,973
Speaker 3: why I'm asking you.

1085
00:49:26,013 --> 00:49:29,973
Speaker 2: It looks like you have picked Hurts, but you have

1086
00:49:30,013 --> 00:49:31,013
Speaker 2: not picked Josh Allen.

1087
00:49:31,212 --> 00:49:33,493
Speaker 3: Okay, got him backwards? Then I will do Josh Allen.

1088
00:49:34,933 --> 00:49:37,613
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, those are the top two options here.

1089
00:49:37,652 --> 00:49:38,492
Speaker 3: I'll go with Josh Allen.

1090
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Speaker 4: I think you guys would be surprised at who the

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Speaker 4: leading rusher is at the quarterback position this year. It's

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Speaker 4: Justin Herbert. He has three hundred and five rushing yards

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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 2: Is that right? Because he's running for his life? Yes,

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Speaker 2: that really is a surprise.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what odds you could have gotten on Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert being the leading rusher in football at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the year for a quarterback you would not have.

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Speaker 1: You could have gotten a great price on that. So

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Speaker 1: you got Josh Allen. I'm taking b John Robinson and

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. That may not look great numbers wise, but

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Speaker 1: I actually think that's a parlay that could hit.

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Speaker 2: We haven't gotten one yet where we've all hit, have we, Billy?

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Speaker 1: Not one?

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Speaker 4: I mean, Drew's only picked one correct touchdown score, so

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Speaker 4: it's fuy sure so that.

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Speaker 1: That hurts us, the fact that Drew has only, uh

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Speaker 1: only picked one.

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Speaker 2: Well, guys, thank you all very much. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to the weekend in all the games.

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Speaker 1: I hope everybody congrats Drew on keeping all of your

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Speaker 1: Titans best players.

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Speaker 2: Uh so that you we have them my week so

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Speaker 2: we're not losing big week for the Titans. Oh, this

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Speaker 2: is a winning, winning within for you.

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Speaker 3: This is crazy.

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Speaker 2: I love it all right. We will see you guys later.

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Speaker 2: It's been NFL Cover zero.

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