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Speaker 1: generation warfare.

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Pasovic christ

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Speaker 3: is King.

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Speaker 4: President Trump says he's canceling all meetings with Iranian officials

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Speaker 4: until the killing of protesters stops. Human rights activists say

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Speaker 4: the Iranian regime has now killed more than two thousand

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Speaker 4: protesters and arrested more than sixteen thousand. Meanwhile, President Trump's

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Speaker 4: National security team will meet today to discuss Iran intervention options.

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Speaker 5: President Trump, following up on a promise that he made

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Speaker 5: back in November, the administration has now ended temporary protected

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Speaker 5: status for Somalia. Temporary means temporary smalling. Nationals with TPS

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Speaker 5: are now required to leave the United States by March seventeenth,

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 6: This is, in essence, a federal invasion of the Twin

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Speaker 7: Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison sued the Trump administration, claiming

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Speaker 7: that its deployment of federal agents and officers illegally oversteps

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Speaker 7: the state's law enforcement authority, quote endangering the public safety, health,

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Speaker 7: and welfare of all Minnesotas and provoking protest in the process.

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Speaker 6: What was Governor Tim Walls doing to keep these officers

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Speaker 6: The answer was absolutely nothing. They describe being left for

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Speaker 8: That you can use the term insurgency, you can use

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Speaker 8: the term insurrection, you can use the term domestic terrorism.

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Speaker 8: Mayor Jacob Pry, Governor Tim Walls, Attorney General Keith Ellison

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Speaker 8: have deliberately, willfully and purposefully incited this violent insurrection, this

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Speaker 8: violent insurgency against immigration and customs enforcement, against border patrol.

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Speaker 9: One of these people from countries all over the world,

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Speaker 9: not just South America. They're coming in from all over

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Speaker 9: the world, David, all over the world. And crime rates

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Speaker 9: let me put one of those, David, one of those

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Speaker 1: Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's edition of

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Speaker 1: the breaking news out of Minneapolis is tremendous. Today is

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Speaker 1: January fourteen, twenty twenty six. Anno dominie. What do we have?

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Speaker 1: It's very clear the ICE officer suffered internal bleeding, internal

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Speaker 1: a deranged anti ice agitator up there in Minneapolis just

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Speaker 1: of the information. Jonathan Ross is his name, the ICE officer,

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Speaker 1: now internal bleeding. And the question is, of course, if

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Speaker 1: agent murderers, protester to anti ICE agitator attempted to kill

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Speaker 1: It certainly does seem criminal. And these and that's why,

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Speaker 1: The reason you have laws is to set those boundaries

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Speaker 14: Talk about influences. These are influences and they're friends and mine.

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Speaker 11: That's no joke. That's not a small act of defiance.

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Speaker 12: And you know, I think, I mean, obviously it's a

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Speaker 12: tragedy that this woman died, just like it's a tragedy

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Speaker 12: that any woman dies.

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Speaker 1: John Stuart said, Yeah, John Stewart, Yeah, yeah, life defiance.

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Speaker 12: Right, But I think it would have been another reason.

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Speaker 12: It would have been good for this woman to survive

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Speaker 12: and so that she could have been put on trial

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Speaker 12: for the serious crimes she committed in.

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Speaker 1: And well, let me let me ask you about that,

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Speaker 1: because because the point of a trial here as well,

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Speaker 1: and to be fair, look in that area, I think

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Speaker 1: there's a real question of whether or not you could

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Speaker 1: get a jury that does not commit dury nullification like

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Speaker 1: we've seen in Washington, DC. This is the same area,

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Speaker 1: of course, where Derek Chauvin was charged and that jury

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Speaker 1: process was a complete joke, ause we've talked about for years.

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Speaker 1: And that being said, though that being said, the fact

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Speaker 1: that there should be a trial, the fact that she

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Speaker 1: should be put on trial, what does what message you said?

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Speaker 1: The prosecution sends a message to society as a teaching moment.

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Speaker 1: To me, I say, to the Trump administration, to everyone

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Speaker 1: else out there, this is the moment you do, I

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Speaker 1: perhaps pun intended. You do floor the gas in a

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Speaker 1: legal sense, right, you say, we're going to go and

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Speaker 1: actually enforce all of these laws. And you certainly see

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miller saying that to all federal law enforcement. Remember

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Speaker 1: you have federal immunity while in the conduct of your duties.

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Speaker 1: It is really simple the administration is backing them fully,

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Speaker 1: and I believe they should prosecute every single person eight

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Speaker 1: what is it, eighteen USC one eleven, where they're just

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Speaker 1: their obstructural justice. It's constant instructural justice everywhere. Arrest them all.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I think it's in a very very important teaching function

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Speaker 12: for two respects. It teaches ice officers that the administration

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Speaker 12: has their back, that they don't have to be afraid

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Speaker 12: of enforcing federal law as long as their conduct is lawful.

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Speaker 12: And then this second thing is it teaches the general

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Speaker 12: public and it teaches would be obstructors of justice, Like,

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Speaker 12: you know, the idea here being you could you act

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Speaker 12: like this and you get yourself killed by failing to,

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Speaker 12: you know, comply with police orders. We're literally we're not

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Speaker 12: going to prosecute the ice officer who killed him. We're

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Speaker 12: not even going to investigate him because he didn't do

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Speaker 12: anything wrong. But we will prosecute your co conspirators, even

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Speaker 12: if it's your romantic partner. Who's more, not only does

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Speaker 12: your romantic will your romantic partner have to mourn your

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Speaker 12: death if you pull a stunt like this, you'll also

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Speaker 12: have to fend off a federal criminal prosecution and probably

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Speaker 12: go to jail for it. And I think that's a

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Speaker 12: really good lesson for everybody to learn.

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Speaker 1: Will Chamberlain. Where can people get your coordinates.

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Speaker 12: At Will Chamberlain on x and follow the article three

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Speaker 12: project a three P action dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, check them out, folks. Right back. Lemy Emmons

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Speaker 1: the Hot New op ed about all of this. Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, where's Jack? Where is he?

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Speaker 1: Jack?

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Speaker 10: I want to see you.

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Speaker 13: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 9: You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking

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Speaker 9: about the fake news and demand, but we have guys

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Speaker 9: and these are the guys shore forgetting pulses.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack ceviec back live Real America's Voice, Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily, And I'm just gonna say it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say it again. You people need to stop crying about

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Speaker 1: the government enforcing the laws of the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: We had a giant election about this twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: the popular vote. What signs are we holding up mass deportations? Now?

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Speaker 1: What did you think mass deportations meant? Vibes essays no, No,

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Speaker 1: it meant mass deportations. The American people voted for this

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Speaker 1: and Donald Trump when he was on that campaign trail,

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Speaker 1: he talked about mass deportations every single possible chance he

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Speaker 1: was given any interview, and he stopped, even if he's

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Speaker 1: sitting at waffle house or the McDonald's, We're going to

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Speaker 1: have mass deportations. We're going to have mass deportations. He

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Speaker 1: would say it over and over and over. We need

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Speaker 1: to do it, we need to do it. And asked him,

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Speaker 1: remember when they asked him what the cost was. They said,

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Speaker 1: what's the cost, mister president, what's the cost? He said,

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Speaker 1: he said, there's no cost that's too high. There's no

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Speaker 1: cost that's too high. Because it's about keeping our country.

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Speaker 1: That's why on this issue, above all other issues, we're

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Speaker 1: not pumping the brakes. We're not pausing. We're not going

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Speaker 1: to back down. Because some podcasts are on Spotify is

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Speaker 1: all crying about it up there, No no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no. The only way out is through. We have

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Speaker 1: the initiative. We are going to press the initiative. We

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Speaker 1: are going to continue. The American people want this, and

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Speaker 1: the laws on the books of the United States of

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Speaker 1: America want it. And by the way, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if the left wants to go and abolish ice. Then,

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Speaker 1: by all means, by all means, introduce the legislation. Go

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Speaker 1: to every single state, Go to every single state legislature,

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Speaker 1: every single state capital. Go to the federal government. Introduce

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Speaker 1: your abolish ice legislation. I dare you. I dare you

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Speaker 1: right now, introduce the legislation, and let's see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Let's play the game you want to play, Let's play.

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to roll the dice.

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Speaker 14: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Libby Emmons joins us. Now, Libby, you've got a great

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Speaker 1: op ed up at human events dot com all about

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Speaker 1: LARPing and the goods who, by the way, Julie Kelly

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Speaker 1: tells us, are not legally married in any true sense.

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Speaker 1: There was actually a name change certificate, but not a

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Speaker 1: marriage certificate that they've been able to find in any

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Speaker 1: of these states. What is LARPing and why did LARPing

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Speaker 1: go wrong so badly wrong in this case?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So for all the gamers out there, they know

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Speaker 2: what LARPing means. It's live action role playing. It's a

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Speaker 2: word I learned from my son, who is you know, fifteen.

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Speaker 2: But basically my supposition here is that these two women,

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Speaker 2: along with many other activists, were out there playing at activism.

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Speaker 2: You have beca good the partner of Renee Good after

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Speaker 2: the shots were fired, saying to ICE agents, why did

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Speaker 2: you have real bullets?

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Speaker 10: They didn't think that law enforcement was actually out there

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Speaker 10: being law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: They thought law enforcement was out there to, you know,

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Speaker 2: warp around with these activists.

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Speaker 10: And it doesn't make any sense that this is what

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Speaker 10: they should be doing. But they're encouraged to.

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Speaker 2: Do this by Democrat politicians, by celebrities who go out

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Speaker 2: there wearing their pins and buttons and donate to the

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Speaker 2: ACLU and then pretend that that makes them good people.

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Speaker 2: And there's no reason for Americans to go out into

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Speaker 2: the streets and protest law enforcement.

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Speaker 10: That's out there doing their jobs.

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Speaker 2: And furthermore, I think it's really important to note that

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Speaker 2: ICE wouldn't have to be out in the communities going

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Speaker 2: door to door looking for people if the State of

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Speaker 2: Minnesota wasn't LARPing as well.

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Speaker 10: Believing that they are not accountable to federal law.

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Speaker 2: The State of Minnesota says that local law enforcement officers

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Speaker 2: cannot comply with federal law enforcement actions, and that's absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 2: If local cops were turning over illegal alien criminals to ICE,

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Speaker 2: then ICE wouldn't be out there in the first place

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Speaker 2: doing this.

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Speaker 10: Kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So, Libby, when we talk about LARPing the scene, I guess,

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Speaker 1: or the video that's come out of this that really

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Speaker 1: strikes to me on this is when Becca Good, the

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Speaker 1: partner of Renee Good, is there on the street and

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Speaker 1: this has gone viral. It was something that came out

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Speaker 1: during the wake of this, but people were so focused

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Speaker 1: on the car ramming that they kind of missed this,

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Speaker 1: she says. She as she said, it was my fault.

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Speaker 1: I told her to be here. But then she also added,

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Speaker 1: why did it have to be real bullets? Why did

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Speaker 1: it have to be real bullets? Libby, did they not

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Speaker 1: ever stop to think about the consequences of their actions

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Speaker 1: or are they just so wrapped up in the idea

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Speaker 1: that they're fighting this quote unquote revolutionary charge and filming

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Speaker 1: content for their tiktoks that they never actually stopped to

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Speaker 1: think about what could happen to them because they're breaking

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Speaker 1: laws and in this case, committing violence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they didn't think about the consequences.

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Speaker 2: And I certainly know when my son was a newborn

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Speaker 2: and there were protests and I was interested in going

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Speaker 2: check it out in New York City. It was when

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Speaker 2: it was Occupy Wall Street was happening. I did not go,

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Speaker 2: and I did not go because I had much greater

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Speaker 2: responsibilities than going to see what the idiots were doing

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Speaker 2: downtown taking over Zukatti Park. So I don't think they

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Speaker 2: were thinking about the consequences of their actions. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they thought there were consequences to their actions. I

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Speaker 2: think they thought, as you said, that they could go

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Speaker 2: out there shoot some tiktoks, you know, get that all

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Speaker 2: set up, and still get home in time for the

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Speaker 2: school bus to drop the little boy off, who now,

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Speaker 2: of course, is an orphan, which is terrible, and you

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Speaker 2: have to think about the consequences of these things. They

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Speaker 2: didn't realize, perhaps that ICE is actually a law enforcement

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Speaker 2: organization that is going out there doing a job, doing

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Speaker 2: the job that they are mandated and required to do.

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Speaker 2: They thought it was just, you know, some kind of joke.

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Speaker 2: And what's interesting, too, is I was checking out what

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Speaker 2: joy Reid had to say about it, because I always

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Speaker 2: find her perspective pretty interesting. And what she said is

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Speaker 2: that the activists believe that these white women would be

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Speaker 2: protected by their white privilege, assuming that all ice agents

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Speaker 2: are just horribly racist and would shoot a black person

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Speaker 2: on site, but would not shoot.

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Speaker 10: These white women, And so that was I think part

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Speaker 10: of their understanding too.

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Speaker 2: I think they're so indoctrinated with the bogus anti racism

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Speaker 2: narrative that they believe that their white skin would protect

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Speaker 2: them from the consequences of interfering directly with law enforcement actions.

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Speaker 1: So they actually believe that's such an interesting because Livy,

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Speaker 1: you come from this sort of world of the left.

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Speaker 1: They believe it right because in canonical wokeness that if

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Speaker 1: you are white, then police will let you do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want, because that is what they believe. And so

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Speaker 1: as as that would then follow that their whiteness would

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Speaker 1: be a shield to them from any police activity, But

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Speaker 1: it turns out that it's never been a shield against

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Speaker 1: police activity. And the same way that it turns out

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Speaker 1: that skin color has never been the predicate of police's behavior.

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Speaker 1: It's always been the behavior of the individual predicates what

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Speaker 1: a policeman's offer a police when a police woman's behavior

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Speaker 1: is going to be. And to the same point, Liby,

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Speaker 1: have you seen a single one of these videos where

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Speaker 1: you know, I see it across X all the time

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Speaker 1: where someone will say, oh my gosh, there's this terrible video.

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Speaker 1: It's a seventeen year old in a target, there's a

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Speaker 1: woman who's being drugged from a car. There's this, there's that,

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Speaker 1: And then you watch the video and they're either not complying,

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Speaker 1: they're obstructing. They're blocking the road, they're getting in face

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Speaker 1: of officers, they're taking swings at officers. They're always doing

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Speaker 1: something and the people just lie about it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they are all doing something, and the people just

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Speaker 2: lie about it. And it's important to know, Yes, we

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Speaker 2: do have First Amendment rights. We can go out there

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Speaker 2: and protest our government. We can petition our government for

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Speaker 2: a redress of grievances that is entirely within our right.

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Speaker 2: But if you are out there and you are dallying

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Speaker 2: with these lines and you are told to do something

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Speaker 2: by police officers, just comply with police.

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Speaker 10: You're going to get an arrest. You're going to be

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Speaker 10: a hero among your friends.

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Speaker 2: You know, Mark Ruffalo is going to sing your praises

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Speaker 2: because you got arrested during the righteous cause.

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Speaker 10: Just comply with police. It's the same thing that we

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Speaker 10: all tell our kids.

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Speaker 2: If you get pulled over when you're driving you know,

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Speaker 2: comply with police, do what you are told, don't make

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Speaker 2: sudden movements, don't give the police any reason to, you know,

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Speaker 2: be concerned that you are a threat to them.

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Speaker 10: And this is something that we all know, right, I mean,

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Speaker 10: this is a lesson that we could all take from

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Speaker 10: fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: Remember when everyone was going around about how they had

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Speaker 2: to give their black children the talk, right, give these

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Speaker 2: liberal white ladies the talk.

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Speaker 10: Just do what cops say and you're not going to

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Speaker 10: get shot, you know.

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Speaker 1: And Chris Rocky used to have a great bit about this.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you have any priors? You know, are

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Speaker 1: you on drugs? Are you holding drugs? Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Just don't do that. When you get pulled over. You

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Speaker 1: better check before you do any of these things. And look,

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Speaker 1: I always say as well, you know, people, obviously my

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Speaker 1: kids aren't old enough for this yet, but I always

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Speaker 1: just say, guys, you want to argue arguing court, all right,

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Speaker 1: you want to argue arguing court? Are you in paper?

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Speaker 1: Make your argument later. Don't do it on the street. Literally,

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Speaker 1: just don't do the street, because it's as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: Because you don't want to be there, they don't want

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Speaker 1: to be there. You're in a bad situation obviously with ice,

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Speaker 1: you definitely don't want to be there. And you know

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Speaker 1: something else, really simple. If you're driving around Minneapolis and

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get involved with ICE, then literally

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Speaker 1: just go the other way. I was in Minneapolis for

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Speaker 1: the whole time I was there. I didn't actually randomly

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Speaker 1: run into ICE operations. They're seeking them out there, following them.

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Speaker 1: You got Will stancil Over on Blue Sky talking about

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Speaker 1: how his twenty eleven Honda fit can barely keep up

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Speaker 1: with the ICE convoys. It's ridiculous, it's a joke, and

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Speaker 1: people are doing this on purpose. But here's the thing, folks,

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Speaker 1: we need to rip the band aid off now, get

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Speaker 1: it done now, and we'll never have to worry about

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Speaker 1: this crap again. Libby Emmons, where people go to get

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Speaker 1: your op ed and follow your work, well, I.

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Speaker 2: Just want to say also that they're coordinating on signal

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Speaker 2: chats and telling everywhere to go.

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Speaker 10: You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.

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Speaker 2: You can check out all the work that we're doing

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Speaker 2: at human events dot com and I would be glad.

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Speaker 1: If you go read my op ed human events dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Check out Libby's op ed, you're going back to the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court next, you're on Human Events. Jack is a

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Speaker 1: great guy. He's written a fantastic look.

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Speaker 10: Everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Go get it that.

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Speaker 15: He's been my friend right from the beginning of this

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Speaker 15: whole unful event.

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Speaker 13: And we're going to turn her around.

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Speaker 11: This make our country way to get him.

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Speaker 1: He amen, all right, Jack recviick back live Human Events daily. Well, folks,

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Speaker 1: we also, as as much as the immigration enforcement operations

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Speaker 1: are important, as much as we've been focused on them,

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Speaker 1: traveling out to Minneapolis, still got field correspondence on the

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Speaker 1: ground out there. We also have to walk and chew

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Speaker 1: gum because there's this incredible ruling coming out soon, it

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Speaker 1: appears from the Supreme Court. A huge hearing that was

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Speaker 1: held yesterday regarding trans athletes participating in women's sports. We

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Speaker 1: threw together as kind of a quick impromptu panel here

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Speaker 1: on all of this. We've got Erica Donald's from the

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Speaker 1: America First Policy Institute, Erica, how are you so good?

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Speaker 16: Great to be here? Yesterday was and I'm amazing day

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Speaker 16: to see so much support.

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Speaker 1: Well, it certainly was. And we saw everyone out there

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Speaker 1: cheering at the Supreme Court and then We've also got,

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Speaker 1: of course, Paula Scanlon. She's a senior fellow over with

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Speaker 1: the American Principles Project and also someone who was on

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Speaker 1: the team at the swim team at UPenn with the

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Speaker 1: trans man that really really started all of this. Paula,

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Speaker 1: what does it feel like to see this case go

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Speaker 1: all the way to the Supreme Court? It feels really good.

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Speaker 3: I think back then we saw that this was the

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Speaker 3: only option it was going to end up at the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court. The one thing I will say, and I've

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Speaker 3: been repeating this to everyone, this is so silly to me.

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Speaker 3: The fact that we have Supreme Court justices sitting there

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Speaker 3: listening to arguments on is a man a man?

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Speaker 1: Is a woman a woman?

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Speaker 3: Should a man be included in the definition of woman?

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Speaker 3: It's just insanity. But again, I'm glad it's being heard,

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Speaker 3: and I'm looking forward to a favorable decision coming up soon.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that is going to happen. Erica. Over

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Speaker 1: at AFPI, you guys have been putting out so much

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Speaker 1: work regarding this issue. Talk to us about how the

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Speaker 1: trans issue really has become the tent pole issue for

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Speaker 1: the leftist agenda.

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Speaker 16: It has, and unfortunately for them.

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Speaker 15: However, recent polling shows that it has become a seventy

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Speaker 15: thirty issue even amongst Democrats and independents, where people do

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Speaker 15: not want their daughters and the women in their lives

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Speaker 15: to be put in danger with men and boys, not

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Speaker 15: just in their sports and taking their spaces on athletic teams,

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Speaker 15: but in their locker rooms where there are unsafe conditions

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Speaker 15: for those young women. So America first politicians who as

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Speaker 15: you mentioned, as well as many others, and we're talking

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Speaker 15: about gay's, lesbians, Republicans, Democrats all together. You saw it

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Speaker 15: yesterday at the rally, coming together against this and asking

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Speaker 15: the Supreme Court to uphold the original intention of Title nine.

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Speaker 1: Paul, talk to me now about so one of the pieces,

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Speaker 1: and I'm reading some of the transcripts that are coming

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Speaker 1: out of the court that they're talking about, is would

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Speaker 1: this disturb laws and policies in other states that require

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Speaker 1: schools to allow trans students to compete on teams that

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Speaker 1: quote align with their gender identity. And certainly now now

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Speaker 1: the DJ is trying to say that you know that

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Speaker 1: this wouldn't effect that these bands wouldn't necessarily affect those

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Speaker 1: but PAULA, look, you were in Pennsylvania, which was allowing

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Speaker 1: this and is not one of the states where is

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Speaker 1: that has a ban on it. Jas Shapiro, the governor there,

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Speaker 1: certainly isn't going to be passing that anytime soon. Talk

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Speaker 1: to me about what it was like to be on

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Speaker 1: a team and forced to share a locker room with

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Speaker 1: a biological mail.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's as horrible as people imagine it is.

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Speaker 3: It's not just competitively unfair to be on a team

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Speaker 3: with a man who's obviously much larger. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: was a six and four tall individual that we're talking about,

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Speaker 3: but the locker room is something a lot of people

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Speaker 3: didn't consider. Even my own parents, I don't think properly

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Speaker 3: understood the fact that this guy was undressing in front

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Speaker 3: of us fully intact. Mail had done nothing to become

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Speaker 3: a woman at all, undressing in front of us. Not

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Speaker 3: once or twice, but eighteen times per week. We were

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Speaker 3: fully undressing in front of this man, and we were

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Speaker 3: told that if we objected to it or had any

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Speaker 3: problems with it, that we were the problem, and they

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Speaker 3: told us to go seek psychological services. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: what girls across the country are being forced when this

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Speaker 3: is going on and that's why the Supreme Court case

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Speaker 3: is so important, not just for athletes and competitive fairness,

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Speaker 3: but also for the safety and privacy of young girls

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Speaker 3: in this whole country. And that's really what is writing

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Speaker 3: on this case.

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Speaker 1: And that's and that's so that's would be my response

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Speaker 1: to the blue state argument and Erica, to bring you

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Speaker 1: back in here. Wasn't that the entire point of Title

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Speaker 1: nine to begin with, this basic idea that women should

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Speaker 1: have their rights protected.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 15: Common sense that women need their own sports categories in

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Speaker 15: order to compete at all, because taken to the extreme,

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Speaker 15: allowing young men to compete on the women's team will

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Speaker 15: eventually eliminate women from competition, completely taking away their scholarships,

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Speaker 15: their opportunities, their trophies, as has already happened.

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Speaker 16: It's absolutely unfair.

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Speaker 15: It's the reason why women fought so hard for Title

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Speaker 15: nine to ensure opportunities for our young women. As a

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Speaker 15: former only high school athlete, paula obviously incredible college athlete,

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Speaker 15: and I just commend her for her bravery, her courage

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Speaker 15: to stand up to this mob.

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Speaker 16: I know this is what motivates women. It gives them confidence.

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Speaker 15: We show that actually young athletes, young women athletes become CEOs,

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Speaker 15: become leaders in business, and taking that away from them

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Speaker 15: is absolutely not the intention of the law.

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Speaker 1: No, it's certainly not, Paula, you know, switching back to

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Speaker 1: you here, when when you look at these arguments, and

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Speaker 1: I know that you've been looking at the case, it

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Speaker 1: does look like the Supreme Court is going to come

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Speaker 1: down here, Amy Coni, Barrett Clarence Thomas getting in there.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that the you know that the the

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Speaker 1: those people supporting the trans students, did they even make

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Speaker 1: their case?

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Speaker 3: You know, watching the arguments yesterday, I felt like I

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Speaker 3: felt genuinely embarrassed. I mean, there's no other way to

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Speaker 3: explain what's going on here. They even said though that

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Speaker 3: they aren't prepared to define sex. If we can't define sex,

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Speaker 3: and how are we sex discriminated? Should we just have

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Speaker 3: an open category? Why do we even have women's sports

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Speaker 3: if nobody knows what a woman is? And the other

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Speaker 3: case side was not able to present that in their case,

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Speaker 3: And so the bottom line is man is man, woman

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Speaker 3: is woman. There's a lot of complexities going on this

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Speaker 3: case they want to bring up, but that's really what

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Speaker 3: this boils down to. And if we agreed that men

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Speaker 3: are men and women are women. Case closed shut. Women's

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Speaker 3: sports are for women. Let's move on. But for some

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Speaker 3: reason we have to talk in circles and pretend like

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Speaker 3: nobody knows what a woman is.

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Speaker 1: Well, and we really saw this as well, because in

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Speaker 1: so many of the instances they weren't really talking about athletes. Say,

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Speaker 1: we're actually getting into these biological questions. They were getting

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Speaker 1: into these deep questions. Erica, why is it that the

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Speaker 1: left is so beholden to this issue.

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Speaker 15: Well, they are beholden to the radical side of their party, unfortunately,

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Speaker 15: but they like to turn the conversation into individual circumstances.

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Speaker 15: And we all have compassion for people who are confused

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Speaker 15: about their gender and they feel excluded. But we cannot

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Speaker 15: make laws around one individual's person, or a man's feelings

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Speaker 15: or a young boy's feelings. We have to make laws

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Speaker 15: that are fair and equitable for everyone, and frankly, that

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Speaker 15: protect the safety, sanctity, and rights of our young women

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Speaker 15: and girls. That's the way the law should go. That's

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Speaker 15: the way I think the Supreme Court will rule on these.

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Speaker 15: It will uphold states' rights to separate the sexes. When

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Speaker 15: it comes to athletics. But we need to go even

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Speaker 15: further and ensure a clear definition of Title nine when

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Speaker 15: it comes to biological sex, how someone was born, that

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Speaker 15: is where they should compete.

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Speaker 1: And it makes makes perfect sense to me. It seems

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Speaker 1: like common sense, Paula. I wanted to know if you

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Speaker 1: had had thought it was interesting in all that Judge Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: some of his comments, giving the fact that with his background,

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Speaker 1: he himself was a coach of a girls basketball team.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think it's so interesting when people trying

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Speaker 3: to bring that stuff up. But I will say, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter whose coaching teams. I've had male coaches, I've

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Speaker 3: had female coaches. Women's teams are for women, men's teams.

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Speaker 1: Are for boys.

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Speaker 3: It's it's such a silly argument that we're even having

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Speaker 3: this conversation, and the entire case hearing yesterday, the one

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Speaker 3: thing going through my mind the entire time was I

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Speaker 3: cannot believe Supreme Court justices again are sitting here listening

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Speaker 3: to something so silly, studying to become lawyers, going through clerkships,

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Speaker 3: to sit there for a few hours listening to some

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Speaker 3: whiny person complained about how they don't know what a

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Speaker 3: boy or a girl is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's just amazing because they'll say, what

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Speaker 1: background do you have, and he said, well, he literally

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Speaker 1: was that of a girls sports team. He's like and

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Speaker 1: he's now on the Supreme Court. It's it's so so amazing,

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Speaker 1: and just like us on this panel. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we've got we've got posts, so and I'm out numbered

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Speaker 1: here on my own show. I have to I have

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Speaker 1: to talk to the producers about who booked this panel.

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Speaker 1: We check that out next time. Paul Scanlon, where could

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Speaker 1: people go to get access to you and your coordinates?

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Speaker 3: I'm a pretty big on X, so make sure callow

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Speaker 3: me there, PAULA Wi Scanlon, keep.

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Speaker 1: Up with let them up too, of course.

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Speaker 15: Eric Donald's, Yes at Eric Donald's Erica O with a

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Speaker 15: K and Ericaddnalds dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, make sure you're following them both to absolute

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Speaker 1: champions for their cause, which is the cause of reality

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Speaker 1: and the cause of common sense. Ladies and gentlemen. As always,

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Speaker 1: you have my permission to lay sure