1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: and Gold NR Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williams and we 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 3: are at the Ritz Carlton here in Orlando for the 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 3: NFL Springs. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: It's right outside of what is at the Palazo State Salon. Yeah. 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 4: Is that that's Plazos And I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: the media room. 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, that's it. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: That is the media room is You can't really see 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: it out the back here, of course you can't see 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: it on the radio at all, but beautiful view here 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: of the rotunda and everything. There's nice, nice little site here. 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 3: We are going over Matt Miller's Top fifty prospects here 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: on ESPN and the I like the comps, the comp 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 3: part of it. Yeah, yeah, that's always a fun part 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: of the way. That makes makes me think about the 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: guys a little bit differently as well. Uh So we're 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: up to we did the first twenty five in the 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: previous segment. Now we're down to number twenty six and 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: one of my favorite players in this draft, and that 24 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 3: is Cooper Dejene and the comp is leagerious Snead. 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: I like that car. I like that one too. 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we got a We did exactly what 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 4: we were being, you know, being critical people being guilty 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: of We threw out rod Woods and I mean like, okay, 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: we'll relax you guys. You know, but that's a good one. 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: I mean, Sneid is a physical, physical player. Yeah, Slot, 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 4: I think. 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: He was a safety. He was as career too. 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: He'll hit, He's big, the gene might be faster, you know, 34 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: in terms of just straight line speed, might even be 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 4: a little bit bigger. 36 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 3: But in terms of usage, and he offers a return 37 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: ability as well. Yeah, I don't think the ry tackler 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: all that good stuff. Yeah, I love the player. Love 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: the player. I actually made him my member one corner 40 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: in our Triple Takes series. I had time now, Yeah, 41 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: so I had him three and I kept looking at 42 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: my just doesn't sit right if I'm drafted. That's what 43 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: I'm taking at twenty seven. Xavier Worthy in the comp 44 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: is obvious to Shawn Jackson. 45 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I think Tyreek Hill, but I'm glad. 46 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: I think Jackson makes Jackson's much more And that's why 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: I can't have him at twenty seven. I can't have 48 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: him over some more established route runners and things of that, 49 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: and he does that. 50 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: He's not like he's just a speed guy. That's what 51 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: I's gonna say. 52 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: I mean, like Jackson was a really good football player 53 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 4: who's also fast, and obviously those two things play off 54 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: one another. Of course, he wasn't the guy that goes 55 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: to combine burns, but isn't really a good football player, right, 56 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: Like Worthy can play. 57 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: Worthy can play. Yeah, he is worthy of a pick. 58 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: He's only like one hundred and sixty, but he's That's 59 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: what I was just going to say. 60 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: He's five eleven, one hundred and sixty five pounds, which 61 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: is more like DeShawn Jackson. 62 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: Right, He's not tree Archer, you know, He's not one 63 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: of those type of speed guys that's only good in space. 64 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: But he's little. At twenty eight. 65 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: He has Darius Robinson, the edge rusher at of Missouri, 66 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: and I consider him a defensive tackle. When we did 67 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: our triple tap. 68 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: That listen is of an end just because NFL dot 69 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: Com pay, But I think he'll spend more time between 70 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: the tackles and outside these. 71 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: Six five to eighty five. But the comp is Cam Jordan. 72 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: I see that. 73 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan is about that size. He's been used 74 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: all over the line of scrimmage, interior pass rusher. 75 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. The Saints will like him. 76 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, at twenty nine Jackson powers Johnson in the the comps. 77 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: Frank Ragnow. I'd like to remind people that Frank Ragnow 78 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: was the twentieth picking the draft in twenty eighteen when 79 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: he came out by the Detroit Lions, and he had the. 80 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Top three center. With the retirement of Kelsey, he might 81 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: be number one. 82 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was being conservative with top three. 83 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: He easily is that power player as well, you know, 84 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: like a Linderbaum is fifty pounds lighter and a lot 85 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: more agile and things like that. 86 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: Jackson powers Johnson has put together. He really is. I me, 87 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: he's like a coke machine. But he moves really well too. Yeah. 88 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: Second level we can run. Yeah. 89 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: He was fun to watch at the Senior Bowl, you know. 90 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: And I talked to him after the after the first 91 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: practice and like you were like every time there was 92 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: a running player or something like that, you're getting to 93 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: the second level. And then you look and he's running 94 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: beside the running back down the field, like a lot 95 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: of that. 96 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: I was about to say, I love his playing temperament. 97 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, like he sets the tone, first guy in the line, 98 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: back to the huddle, go go, go, go, energy guy. 99 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 100 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: At thirty he has Graham barton the center from Duke 101 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 3: and his compass Cody white Hair. 102 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: Okay white hair to his detriment to the bearsman from guard. 103 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah he's playing that maybe why he's Yeah, he's James. 104 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 4: Daniels was part of that that you know, shell game 105 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 4: there too, and they never could quite figure it out. 106 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 4: We even talked about this, but I'm not one hundred 107 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: uncertain that he can't be a right tackle. 108 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: I think he played tackle. 109 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, which I wouldn't draft him at twenty to be 110 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 4: a tackle, right, you know what I mean. 111 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: I wouldn't include him in this tackle group. No, not 112 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: at all. 113 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: But if you're if you were loaded on the interior, 114 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: I mean, like I. 115 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: Think Dallas, if you're looking at position flexible players, he 116 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: gives you flexibility to play at any of four spots. 117 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not gonna left. He's not gonna play left now, 118 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: not for traditionals. 119 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know but just bringing up Dallas in Miami 120 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: because they have multiple or three spots on the O line. 121 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: He's like a blue guy. Yeah. 122 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: Thirty one Nate Wiggins, the cornerback at a Clemson in 123 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: the comp is Dominic Rogers Cromarty. 124 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: I like that one. 125 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: I mean he was a speedster, long man, de man, 126 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 4: outside the numbers, dude that didn't love tackling. 127 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 128 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: At thirty two, how about this, so he had the 129 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: Jackson power Johnson at twenty nine, Graham Barton at thirty 130 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: he has Zach Fraser at thirty two. So the three 131 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: centers all grouped together there, and the comp on Zach Fraser, 132 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: Creed Humphrey. 133 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: Okay, Humphrey's a very agile, tough guy wrestling background as well. Yeah, 134 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: I'm fine with that. 135 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: So it would be a right handed yeah, Creed Humphrey. 136 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: Lefty centers, but right like a lefty catcher. Yeah. 137 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: At thirty three, Edgrian Cooper the linebacker at a Texas 138 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: A and M and the comp is Jeremiah Owoshu Coromoa. 139 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: Obviously a bigger version. Say he's bigger. Yeah. 140 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: I think it was the core Moros faster too. Yeah, 141 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: I mean he was a strong safety like speed guy. Yeah, 142 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: it's not a bad one. No, it's a run and 143 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 4: hit player. 144 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: At thirty four, he has Jerson Newton or Johnny Newton 145 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: as he's being called today. 146 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 147 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 3: He said john He said he prefers Johnny at the 148 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: at the combine. So, uh yeah, but it's john The 149 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: given name is jers On. Yeah, but I we'll see 150 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: him listed as jer on these sites. 151 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: That's why there's the difference there, just depends on which 152 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 4: site you're looking at. 153 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: The comp is Grady Jarrett. 154 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, good one. He's another one hasn't worked out yet. 155 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: Everyone talks about the gene. Yeah, Newton hasn't done the 156 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: thing yet just because of injuries. No, Grady Jarrett was 157 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 4: would have been drafted much higher today than when he 158 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: came out. 159 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it. There's been more of a precedent 160 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: for those undersized Aaron Donald Gino Akin types, and he 161 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: had some past rush abilities. Oh yeah yeah yeah. 162 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: Uh thirty five Chop Robinson. The address right at Penn 163 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: State and the comp is Josh Schwet Kay. 164 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: I would think like a in Dockway or in o 165 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: Way or somebody like that. 166 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: He's a better he might be better against a run than 167 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: in Dockway than the Doc. 168 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: Dockway's just a speedball. He's the third player. 169 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's what he does well is dead office 170 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: is great. He's very athletic, not super productive. 171 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 172 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: At thirty six is key on Coleman. The wide receiver 173 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: at a Florida State in the comp is Drake London. 174 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: That's rich for me. 175 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I think London is the tenth to fifteenth 176 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: best receiver on the planet and his rare separation skills 177 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: for somebody that big. Coleman to me's a little more contested, 178 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: but I see what he's going with and he's a 179 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: big guy that will win. 180 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: We'll go up and. 181 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: Get it right Block, I mean physical key on Coleman 182 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: in round two for you for the Steelers. 183 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: You in on that? Oh I'd be in on that. Yeah, 184 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: me too. Yeah. Uh. 185 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: At thirty seven, Bo Nicks, the quarterback out of Oregon 186 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: in the comp. I don't get this comp Dak Prescott. 187 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: Dak doesn't get nearly enough credit for what he does 188 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: pre snap and cerebral and all those things. And Dak's 189 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: not as athletic as he used to be or the 190 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: biggest arm in the league wins above the neck more 191 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: than people see. It wouldn't be by Calm, but I 192 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: see where he's going with it. I would see. 193 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: So he has Michael Penix next in his comp from 194 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: Michael Penix's Tua Tago Valoa. I think Nix is closer 195 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: to Tua maybe than Penix's. 196 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, although I would be I would love to see 197 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: Dak in that Miami offense. Yeah, I mean, two is 198 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: a really quick processor. That's his, you know, and they 199 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: built the offense perfectly around him. 200 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: I wonder I. 201 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: Think Dak would even be better into Miami offense than Tua, 202 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: or even better than the than he is in the 203 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: Dallas offense. 204 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: Basically, you're saying, yeah, I mean, is he comparing Michael 205 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: Penix to Tua just because they're. 206 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: Both left handed? I think so. I think that. I 207 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: mean Penis at Penix is a down the field thrower. 208 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: I don't think they're similar at all. Yeah, I mean, 209 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: other than being left handed quarterbacks. 210 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 4: And I also think my my concern with both of 211 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: them though, is they're not natural playmakers off script, you know, 212 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: like can they avoid There are very few rushing yards 213 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: between the two of them at the NFL level. They 214 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: don't avoid free rushers very well. But Penix is a 215 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: much better arm talent downfield thrower. 216 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 217 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: At thirty nine he has Xavier Leget the wide receiver 218 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: out of South Carolina and the compass Jonathan Mingo Hm. 219 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: Mingo to me is not as fast or as straight 220 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: line powerful. He was a little more gadgety thrown behind 221 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. I know they did some of 222 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: that with la Get too. Like again, the comps are 223 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: hard because you always go for the big dogs. But 224 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 4: I think he's a little more a J. Brownish, you know, michelobultraverse, 225 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: don't get me wrong. 226 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a J. Brown's on the best super Yeah. 227 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: Gets kind of a power type player, power player, run 228 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 4: through tackles, get him in space. 229 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 230 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: Forty he has Jordan Morgan, the offensive tackle out of Arizona, 231 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: and the compass Dan Dawkins. 232 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know see that at all. I don't 233 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: see that one. 234 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: Dion Dawkins is like three point fifty, big belly on him, 235 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: mash you you know, more. 236 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 2: Light on his feet. Yeah. 237 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 4: I think he's more of a guard slash movement guy, 238 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: light feet, like you said outside zone, you know, get 239 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 4: on the move. 240 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: At forty one, he has Braden Fisk, the defensive tackle 241 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: out of Florida State, and the compass Zach Syler. 242 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean they're both Plafford guys that don't blow 243 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: you away with arm length and you know all their 244 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: other skills. I mean he's a good athlete. He tested 245 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: extremely well. But I guess I guess I could see that. 246 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: Forty two he has to and Andre Sweat in the 247 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: compass Jordan Davis. 248 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: Say, don't make a pick from there, right, give me 249 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: the big you know, he played more snaps than Davis did. 250 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, impressive. 251 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: At forty three he has Jatavian Sanders and the compass 252 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: Trey McBride. 253 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: I think Bride's McBride's a better receipt at the catch 254 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: point and setting up routes. But he also did very 255 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 4: little as a rookie too. Yeah, if you look at 256 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: him as prospects, they're second round players. That might be 257 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: a little rich for me. For Sanders, yeah, I think 258 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 4: he's a Darren Waller. Yeah, that's a that's a good call. Yeah. 259 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 260 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: At forty four, he has Roman Wilson, the wide receiver 261 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: at a Michigan, and the compass Santana Moss. 262 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: Oh, Santana Moss was an electric five to nine. Wilson's 263 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: faster than people think though he ran a four to 264 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: three nine. 265 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, he can fly. I think he's more than a slot. 266 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 4: Santana Moss was a heck of player though coming. 267 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: Out of the U. I understand. 268 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: I think I think Wilson's pretty good too. They just 269 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: didn't throw it. They never, they never threw the football 270 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: the production with h Yeah. 271 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: No. 272 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: At forty five, he has Jonathan Brook's first running back 273 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: on the board and uh at the compass Aaron Jones, 274 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: good one, I see that one? Yeaheah good receiver. 275 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: Well, similar size, yeah, long speed, Okay yeah. 276 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: Uh. 277 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: At forty six, Junior Colson, the linebacker out of Michigan, 278 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: and his comp is Nick Bolton. 279 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: Taller, bigger, Yeah, but great at a lining guys smart. 280 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 4: Maybe doesn't run the best forty of all time. Okay, 281 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 4: there's some comparisons there. 282 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 283 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: Forty seven is Malachai Corley, the wide receiver out of 284 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: Western Michigan, and once again the comp is Jonathan Mingo. 285 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: Oh using that one, Johnny Mingo twice, Johnny Mingo. Somebody 286 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: looks like somebody walked across your grave. 287 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: I mean they scheme a lot up for him, like 288 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: they did Mingo. 289 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Corley might be better after the catch, 290 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 4: you know, breaking tackles, running through the secondary. 291 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 292 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: At forty eight he has Troy Franklin, the wide receiver 293 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: out of Oregon, and the comp is Deontay Johnson. 294 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: I think he's probably faster, better long speed than Johnson. 295 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 4: He should pattern his game route running off after john Johnson. 296 00:12:59,160 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 297 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: Neither one a great blocker. I mean Franklin's a zero blocker. Okay, 298 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: I can find I can live with that. 299 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 300 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 3: At forty ninety as Tyler Newman, the safety out of Minnesota, 301 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,479 Speaker 3: and the comp is Justin Simmons. 302 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: I think that's a dead on. Yeah, Pa'll do it 303 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: all smart. That's a good one. 304 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. And then at fifty is kool Aid McKinstry, the 305 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: cornerback out of Alabama, and his comp is Joey Porter Jr. 306 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: I don't see that. And Joey's much longer, right, Yeah. 307 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: I think Joey is more gifted of the two. I 308 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: mean he said longer, faster, less refined though, I mean 309 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: mckinstrey started as a true freshman for Nick Saban. I 310 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: mean he's not that he wins entirely from the neck up, 311 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: but he's great from the neck up. You know, you 312 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: can fit every scheme better in Man than his own 313 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 4: as Porter is. I don't really see that camp though. Yeah, 314 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: I just said with with. 315 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: I don't know who you would camp Joey Porter Junior too. 316 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: It's a tough one. 317 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 4: I mean it would be a man cover press guy 318 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 4: who's sixth who has rare length length. Yeah, yeah, I 319 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: think on that one. I'm bad at comps, but that's 320 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: a tough one. He might be a unicorn. Yeah, to 321 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: a certain degree, it's not Richard Sherman. Sherman was an 322 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: off ball guy. I didn't run well. It didn't run 323 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: as well, right, I don't know. 324 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: Anyways, that was the the top fifty for Matt Miller 325 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: on ESPN and you can check that out on there. 326 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's always interesting. It makes you think about 327 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: the guys a little bit differently when you when you 328 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: hear the comps in there. 329 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: Especially whenever you think about how was the comp used 330 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: in the NFL? 331 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: Where did he win? Can he win that way? 332 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: Like this is a much bigger conversation, But I have 333 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: some reservations against the Wilson's Mconkey's if they can only 334 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: play slot. Yeah, you know, because you get pushed around 335 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: a lot there. I mean, like, you better show me. 336 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: If I'm taking that guy in the second round, he 337 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: needs to show me win outside. I think both those 338 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: guys can. But like that mold of player, the Welkers 339 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: of the world aren't as prevalent as they used to be. 340 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: No, they aren't. That's for sure. That the league has changed. 341 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: College football's changed, yeah in that regard as well, with 342 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: some of the stuff that they're walking at receiver and 343 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: playing the run at corner has become a much bigger 344 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: deal than it used to be too, with all this 345 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: nickel dime light boxes. 346 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: You know, right, you absolutely they're gon nick job right 347 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: at you. 348 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, all day long, all day long, all day long. 349 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: You better you can have to tach that receiver can 350 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: block a little bit. Yeah, you can't run away from them, 351 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: right because they're gonna find you. They're gonna find it anyway. 352 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: Let's get through another break. He is the Matt Williamson. 353 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the drive here on 354 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio. We are at the NFL Spring meetings 355 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: here at the Ritz Carlton in Orlando. 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And Matt. 365 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 4: We were had a nice conversation there earlier with Rob 366 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: King of us Steeler moves. 367 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: Here one move that people had did. 368 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: There have been some rumors that the Steelers might have 369 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: been asking about Lugerius Sneed. 370 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: The trade went down Saturday. I guess it was. 371 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 4: It's been a couple of days. Yeah, so, but he 372 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: gets shipped to Tennessee. Tennessee has been active. Tennessee has 373 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: been active. I think they're pushing things in. They had 374 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: a ton of cap space, you know, the new regime, 375 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: new GM from a year ago. I think ownership's saying, hey, 376 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: we need more from you guys. And I give them 377 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 4: credit for building and I think they'll continue to do 378 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 4: this with an offensive line draft pick or two at 379 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: least putting Levis in a situation we need to evaluate him, 380 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: you know, like Carolina's doing the same thing. Like maybe 381 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 4: we're overspending on guards, but at least in the end, 382 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 4: maybe we're overspending on Ridley. 383 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: But in the end, I'll at least have. 384 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: An answer on Young and Levis and say I gave 385 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: you everything, can you did you perform or not? 386 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: It's interesting that he was traded for a third round 387 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: pick and a swap of twenty twenty four to seventh 388 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: round draft pick. It's an odd trade. It's a next 389 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: year of twenty third rounder, right right, Yeah, next year's 390 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: third rounder. That's what they would have gotten at the 391 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: very least if he if they let him hit free 392 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: agency next year. 393 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: So why not hold on to him and try to 394 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: win and try? Yeah? Well, and except he eats cap 395 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: space this year. I understand that, you know, do they? 396 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: I mean, they've they've cleared enough space to make the 397 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: moves that they've already made. 398 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: What are they clearing something for something? That's my thought too? 399 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: Is there? 400 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: And I don't know the Chiefs cap like the back 401 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 4: of my hand or anything. But I do know they 402 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 4: can borrow from the bank of a home, right they can. 403 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: They've already done this year. They already they. 404 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: Already did that. 405 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that made space for Marky's Brown and Chris 406 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 4: Jones and all those guys. But it is odd that 407 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 4: it's a next year third because that's the same as 408 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: a comp although you think the Titans pick is going 409 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 4: to be earlier than the end of the third round, granted, 410 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: and you don't know maybe whether they're they're planned next year, 411 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: is they're going to spend more than they lose, then 412 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 4: you wouldn't be in the comp game either, Right, I 413 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: don't know enough of their you know, their future situation. 414 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: But the swap of seventh round picks is like, yeah, 415 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 4: throw me a cracker on top, you know. It's like 416 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: it's like nothing, And I'm sure there's a lot of 417 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: people going across every city. 418 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: Why don't we do that? Yeah, Well, now that the tennis, 419 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: the Titans now have to pay. 420 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: Him, and that hasn't worked out much lately, you know where, 421 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: and I think the league is adjusted where I'm not 422 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 4: giving you two firsts for Jamal Adams or even Khalil Mack, 423 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 4: who's a much better player than Adams and paying him 424 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 4: you know that, you got. 425 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: To be really special. 426 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 4: And I know, like the Steelers have been rumored with 427 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: Ayuk and things like that, it's like to give up 428 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: a first for any player or multiple first for any 429 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: player and a huge chunk of caps. 430 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: Phase doesn't make good financial sense in the long term. 431 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: I mean usually that doesn't. 432 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: History shown over the salary cap era the last decade 433 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 4: that the team getting the picks wins. 434 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll. 435 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: Say I'll say this, the receivers that have gotten traded 436 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: moved in recent years hasn't been bad, hasn't been bad 437 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: at all. 438 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: A J. Brown, Tyreek Hill, Stefan Diggs. Usually that's for 439 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: like a first and an extension at the stage of 440 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: their career, like in n Ayuk where he's just hitting 441 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 4: his stride. 442 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: You know, so you know what you're getting. You know 443 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: what you're getting. 444 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: So I think a big reason the sneed is not 445 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 4: a Steeler, though, is they're the highest spending defense in 446 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: the league in the lowest spending offense. And I don't 447 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 4: think you want to make that to continue that balance, 448 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: keep pushing it the other way too. 449 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: I think you want another balance, and it's not Vegas. Here. 450 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: You're not trying to get you know, players, people to 451 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: bet on both sides, so you're sixteenth in both. The 452 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: goal is to win, you know, it doesn't matter where 453 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 4: the money goes. But you don't want to be so 454 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 4: extreme on one side of spending. It just makes things tough. 455 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 4: And I think they liked this corner class. 456 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the corner back position as a whole. We've 457 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: talked about this before. The variance from year to year 458 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: is tremendous. 459 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 2: Very volatile. 460 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 4: I mean part of this is because Pro Football Focus 461 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 4: now exists, which I don't put a lot of stock 462 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 4: in their corner grades. But I do think if you 463 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: pulled a GM or a defensive back coach and said, 464 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 4: give me the top ten corners of two thousand, give 465 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 4: me the top ten corners in twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, 466 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four, I bet there wouldn't be many 467 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: names on all three lists. 468 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: It's really difficult, you know. 469 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 3: I had to do the When I did the vote 470 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: for the Hall of Fame in twenty nineteen, it just 471 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: so happened to be at the end of the decade, 472 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: so I also had to vote on the twenty twenty 473 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: ten all decade teams and putting the corners together on 474 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: that list was like you're looking at it like, Okay, 475 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 3: you know this guy's making it. 476 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: You know that guy like. 477 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: I mean Woodson and Dean and those guys are easy. 478 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 4: Those guys are there's a couple of you do. 479 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 3: Ones, right, But then you start looking at that third 480 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: or fourth guy and you're like, okay, there's this guy 481 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: had a really good two out of five years are 482 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: really good, but the other three were eh. Yeah, you know, 483 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: so that that was the that was the hard part 484 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 3: of it. 485 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a hard position, not to invest in, but 486 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 4: to count on a little bit, you know, year to year. 487 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: It's a little bit volatile, and I think part of 488 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 4: it's because it's so reaction. I think it's the position 489 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: that athleticism means the most. And if I have a 490 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 4: toe or an ankle or a knee that's eighty percent 491 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: not one hundred percent, Well maybe that year I'm not 492 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: quite as good, or how do they employ me? 493 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: You know? What's my pass rush? Like? Yeah, it's like 494 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: what quarterbacks do I play this year? Who do I 495 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: play this year? Who's my receivers? Am I am? 496 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: I going up, am I following like Porter? Or I 497 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: left right in it like Sauce. You know, I mean 498 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: that was you. 499 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 3: Know, that was the the interesting or the the very 500 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: good part about Joey Porter Junior last year's or rookie 501 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: that he showed he could follow guys. 502 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: That's deep. I mean, that's yeah, that's that. 503 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: That holds like when you're doing that. Now you've shown 504 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: me that that you A you can do it, but 505 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: B maybe you know that that is better for your 506 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: long term progression that you're not going to fall off. 507 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: You know that, Hey, you're going to be a heavy 508 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: man press corner guy against the best guys out there. 509 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: And you showed it at an early age. 510 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 4: You you went over some hurdles at other corners didn't 511 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 4: at your developmental stage. 512 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 3: After And I think sometimes as well, when when you 513 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: look at these cornerbacks like maybe Lugeriousnate, I don't know 514 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: how different Tennessee's scheme is going to be from Kansas City. 515 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: I don't either, And what he was going to. 516 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 3: You know, what's he going to be asked to do 517 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: in like he was a you just cover this guy 518 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: like he's he followed number one receivers all season. 519 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: Last year into the slot too. 520 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean right, I mean, is Tennessee going to 521 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: ask him to do that? And is there how different 522 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: is their scheme to be able to do that? 523 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: Like from a Steelers perspective, it would be awesome to 524 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: have two number one corners that follow number one receivers, 525 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 4: but it's not needed, right, you know, Like it's not like. 526 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: Like if you have two of those guys, you're just 527 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: gonna stay on side, That's what I say. Do you 528 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: just make them left right then? 529 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: Or unless you're playing the Bengals and you go, Okay, 530 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: we want this guy on Higgins, we want this guy 531 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: on that. 532 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: This guy is a better matchup against this particular receiver. 533 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 4: It'd be a wonderful flexibility tool, but it might be 534 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: also a bit of a luxury too. Yeah, I mean, 535 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: especially after making the Carolina trade. I mean, I think 536 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 4: you have your number two corner and I think Day 537 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: two sets up really well to draft another. Yeah, I agree, 538 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 4: So I would rather use that resource on offense. 539 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah I would as well, And so you know, would 540 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: be nice to add a guy like that, but yeah, 541 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: not necessary, And you know I'd rather sign him in 542 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: free agency without the pick too. Yeah, you know, the 543 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: double whammies a little rough. That's the that's the tough part. 544 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: And you know it goes back to the Justin Fields trade. 545 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 3: You know, I was not in on trading a day 546 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: to day one or day two pick on that guy. 547 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 548 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: Now when you start saying, well it's a future day 549 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 3: three pick, okay, now I'm in. Now I'm interested because 550 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: I'm probably you know, and the Steelers haven't done anything 551 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: with him yet, and they're gonna have to make a decision, 552 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: you know, early May, whether they pick up that fifty 553 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 3: year option. I would guess that they do not at 554 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars. They have to also make that 555 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: decision on Najie Harris. But you can you can sign 556 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: those guys to long term deals, to extensions of course, 557 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: take that out of the equation. 558 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now he's a Steeler, you're to get to 559 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 2: know him better and you're more communications with him. 560 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: You could wait a couple of weeks, be like, I'm 561 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 4: in on what he's doing. I'll offer him a contract 562 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 4: before that May second, or doesn't even have to be 563 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: there's no deadline for offering the contract, right, you can 564 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: do the training camp. 565 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, like the Ravens. That's the Ravens could have 566 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 3: done that with Patrick Queen. They could have said, hey, Patrick, 567 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: we weren't gonna We're not going to give you that 568 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: fifty year option, but we'd like to give you an extension. Anyways, 569 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: whether they was on the wall, whether they had those 570 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: conversations or not, I don't know. 571 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: See I bet not with that one. Because they made 572 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 4: Roquan the highest paid linebacker. You know, you couldn't have 573 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: thirty million dollars tied up in your lineback. And when 574 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 4: they drafted Trent and Simpson last year in the third round, 575 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 4: like yeah, they everyone will plan and knew the world 576 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 4: that you know, that was common. 577 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I've seen you know. Well, the Ravens must 578 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: not have like Patrick Queen because they didn't pick up 579 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: his fifty year options. That doesn't necessarily you know, that's 580 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: not necessarily the case. You can't have too much spending 581 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: at one position. 582 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 4: No, And I think they adored Roquanda and there was 583 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 4: questions about Queen when they made the Roquand trade. It's 584 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 4: a very important position in their offense communication wise, as 585 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 4: well as middle of the field stuff. They stressed taking 586 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 4: away the middle field more than any defense in the league, 587 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 4: and Queen Now kicked his coverage. 588 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: Really, I mean. 589 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 4: It's it's we haven't talked much about this, and I 590 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 4: don't feel super strong about it, but it seems a 591 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 4: little odd to me that on May second of twenty 592 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 4: twenty four, I have to make this decision, you know, 593 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: like it is a strange time to do it. I mean, 594 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 4: it was really weird for Jordan Love. It was weird 595 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: for Daniel Jones. Fields is not going to be able 596 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 4: to He's not going to get that picked up, you know, 597 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 4: but he's at least played and that put us gave 598 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: us some tape to go off of. But it's pretty 599 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 4: early in someone's career to really make that decision. Yeah, 600 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 4: three years in because it's a big decision. 601 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: It's a huge decision, especially for the quarterback position. Yeah, 602 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: because you're you're paying that guy when you pick it up. Now, 603 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 3: and those rules all changed with the with the new 604 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: CBA a couple of years ago. Where it used to 605 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: be they were slotted in and so you know, you 606 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: were the twenty eighth pick, this is what you get. 607 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now it's Pro Bowls and things like that. 608 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 3: Pro Bowls are factored in you and now it's like 609 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 3: the transition tag number. Even if you didn't do that, 610 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: it's it's a bigger number than it. 611 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: Used to be. 612 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 4: And Pro Bowls, you know what they I mean, they're 613 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: not exactly set in stoned as boy. 614 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 2: He's one of the best plays. I think. 615 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 4: I think with that, you have to be voted into 616 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 4: the Pro Bowl. Okay, you're not the alternately, not that 617 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: you can't be the yeah, yeah, but even dad, I 618 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 4: mean even at that, Yeah, it's it's something though. I 619 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 4: at least the best players are getting the most money. 620 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 4: But that makes it even more of a tough decision. 621 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 4: It's just tough. And sometimes these quarterbacks careers. So I 622 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: really want him to become a free agent. I mean, 623 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: the Giants were scared to death of what if Jones 624 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: has a big game? We don't have anybody? Yeah, right them, 625 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 4: We're stuck. That's not how you should make decisions. So 626 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 4: either no, I agree with you for sure. I think 627 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: Nausey is an easy one. Yeah, I think I think 628 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: you picked Nausey up because running backs are cheapest. Could 629 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 4: be for like. 630 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: Six million, a little over six million, that's the drop 631 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: in the bucket. 632 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 4: It's a different conversation than a franchise tag the following year. Yeah, 633 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 4: it's almost double that, but it'd be. 634 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: The weird part of it is, so the Steelers, I believe, 635 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: fully guaranteed Nausey's rookie contract. 636 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 637 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 4: So he'll he'll have played his first five years in 638 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: the league fully guaranteed money. 639 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: Why did they do that? What was the lodge upon that? 640 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: I think it was just because of the position. Okay, 641 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: I think that's rare in the league. I don't know 642 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 2: contracts well enough. I think that's rare. I believe it's 643 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: the first time the Steelers have done anything like that. 644 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 4: That's a compliment of the player. Yeah, yeah, but you know, 645 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: I you know it's going right now. I think a 646 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 4: lot of teams are now doing that with their first 647 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 4: round draft picks, where you lock in that money and 648 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 4: we look into that. 649 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: I don't know much about that situation. I'm not sure 650 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: why you do it if you don't have to. 651 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: I think that's just kind of the going right, Yeah, 652 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: for these guys in the first round. But yeah, well 653 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: so we'll see how that works out here. But yeah, 654 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: I think they pick up Najie Harris's deal. 655 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 4: I think that the fifth year, they definitely do. Yeah, absolutely, 656 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: planning on running him quite a bit after that. You 657 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 4: just more of a decision to Yeah, he's one of 658 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 4: your foundational pieces of your offense. Now with he's especially 659 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: with Arthur Smith, not showing any signs of slowing down 660 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: or anything like that either. Extensions are the different conversation. 661 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: But picking up that a guaranteed money is fine. 662 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson. 663 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. We are here at the NFL 664 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: meetings in Orlando. Things will be picking up more tomorrow. 665 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: We'll talk about a little bit more about some of 666 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: those things here and when we come back after this 667 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: on the Drive. 668 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: Is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 669 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 670 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 671 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. 672 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive 673 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: on Steelers Nation Radio. We are at the NFL Spring 674 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 3: meetings here in Orlando. And one of the big reasons 675 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: we're here Matt will happen later today when Mike Tomlin 676 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: will meet with the media here at the local media 677 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: So the way this works, he has a sit down 678 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: with the local media. It's the only time in the 679 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: off season that he speaks, So this will be our 680 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: first opportunity to talk to him about all the off 681 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: season moves that the Steelers have made, you know, maybe 682 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: some planning of some other stuff, moves that have yet 683 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: to be made. Sure, of course he's I can tell 684 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: us exactly their plans, but we're going to talk about 685 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 3: just everything has kind of happened. And that's just as 686 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 3: you guys, that's just what the local media. Then tomorrow 687 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: morning they had the Tomorrow Morning the Coaches Breakfast. Yeah, 688 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: that's tomorrow mornings the Coaches Breakfast where all the coaches 689 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: sit down, the AFC coaches tomorrow, the NFC coaches on Tuesday, 690 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: and they have a breakfast and sit down with the 691 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: national media. 692 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 4: So how I remember it, And there was the first 693 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 4: time I saw it was there was sixteen big round tables, 694 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: you know, one for each team, and Bellichick was over here, 695 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 4: Read was over here, Tomlin was over here, and whoever 696 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,239 Speaker 4: can sit down with them and ask whatever you want 697 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 4: to room around and it's Free Reigned or whoever's in there, 698 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 4: and they'll answer as long as they I guess there's 699 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 4: a time limit. I mean it's limited to a half 700 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: an hour, if a half hour or that every way 701 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 4: and then next day rent repeat with the NFC. 702 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes Mike shows up a little late for 703 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: those oftentimes, but you know, he has done his major 704 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: media stuff. Will happen today, like he'll sit down with 705 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: us for basically I've done this in the past. He's 706 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: usually about an hour and just you know, answers everything, 707 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 3: and you know, it's a it's a great time to 708 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: pick his brain on some stuff and. 709 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: Obviously one of the best sessions of the year. Oh yeah, yeah. 710 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: And with the moves that the Steelers have made this offseason, 711 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 3: it's gonna be an interesting session. 712 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: I would think. 713 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 4: I can't wait to dig into it too. So that 714 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 4: happens this afternoon. That'll be this afternoon. Omar Kha Omar 715 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 4: Khan scheduled to speak to the media tomorrow in the afternoon, 716 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: and then we'll hear from Art Rooney the second on Tuesday, 717 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 4: pretty much when all everything wraps up about any of 718 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: the rule changes that happen here. So that's kind of 719 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 4: what you're looking forward to. So you're gonna see this 720 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 4: is gonna happen. Basically, this is happening for all thirty 721 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 4: two teams in the league. Their their head coach will 722 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 4: speak and those kind of things that the GM or 723 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 4: whoever their team president will speak. So you're gonna see 724 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 4: just a glut of NFL news out there. We're all 725 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: starting to see some lerbs everywhere. Yeah, oh yeah, how 726 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: they react all these different things. No, that's gonna be cool. 727 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 4: And from our perspective for the drive, we'll be reacting 728 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 4: the next day to whatever they talked about, you know, 729 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: the previous day. 730 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So we're gonna have a lot of stuff to 731 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: talk about tomorrow for sure. You know, after hearing from 732 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin twice. Yeah, that's a great the time we 733 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: go on here tomorrow. So it's gonna be very interesting 734 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: to see how that works out. And starting to see 735 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: some some some blurbs here, Robert Sala saying he welcomes 736 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: to quietness of the of the twenty twenty three off season, 737 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: after all the or twenty twenty four off season, after 738 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: all the noise that was made last year because they 739 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: went out they made a movie at quarterback. 740 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and they made a monumental move that makes sense. 741 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 4: There's never quietness though. No, Now it's gonna be like 742 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it's yeah, the pressure's on and you didn't 743 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: get out of Rogers. 744 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: You're in New York. It's not gonna be quiet. Yeah. 745 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: Jared Mayo, the new head coach in New England, said 746 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: all options are on the board, are still open for 747 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 3: the number three overall picking the draft. 748 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: Do you think they're listening. I think they'd be silly 749 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: to think they are. Yeah, I think they are more 750 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: than Washington is. Yeah. 751 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 3: Dan Quinn says it's fair to envision. He's the new 752 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: coach in Washington. He said it's fair to envision the 753 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: Commander's drafting a quarterback. 754 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: I think it's yeah. 755 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's set in stone in their 756 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 4: mind yet, but I think it's set in stone that's 757 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 4: gonna happen. I mean what I said meant was would 758 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 4: be may will be Daniel, Yeah, maybe Tocarthy. 759 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: I just don't know who, but that's gonna be a quarterback. 760 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: Brian Daball said that Daniel Jones is the guy when 761 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: he returns from his ACL injury. 762 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's far from out of the woods for being cleared. 763 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 4: Yet they really need to add weapons. But I wonder 764 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: when they consider a quarterback in the draft. Could it 765 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 4: be at six if the right guy's there, Could it 766 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 4: be at thirty seven, thirty eight wherever they pick, if 767 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 4: it's a Pinnix or a Knicks or somebody like that. 768 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 4: Maybe I forget who did they get as the best. 769 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 4: I think they signed a brand name quarterback. I can't 770 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 4: remember who is off the top. 771 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: Of my head. Yeah, I don't remember either. I'm just 772 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: looking here. 773 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: They do have an out after the twenty twenty four 774 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 3: season without where he would just be h. 775 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 2: It's not a crazy concert. 776 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 3: It's a twenty two point two million dollar cap hit 777 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 3: in dead cap money that they would carry over to 778 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five if they would move on from Daniel 779 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: Jones after the season. 780 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so it's not crippling. And we talked on 781 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: the last segment about how they kind of were stuck 782 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 4: on that fifty year option situation with him. Probably regret 783 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: the decision they made, but to be fair to Jones, 784 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 4: he also got hurt last year, you know what I mean. Yeah, 785 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 4: so he did some good things his first year with 786 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 4: day Ball, But I think you have to look at 787 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 4: that too and can he be a difference maker. Could 788 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 4: he be a you know, a truck instead of a trailer? 789 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 4: And I lean towards no. They signed Drew lock Lock Okay, yeah, 790 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 4: I mean there was somebody they were excited about. 791 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess they're kind of Daniel Jones and 792 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: Drew lock are kind of the same thing, a lot 793 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: of similarly. Dude. 794 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're in the same draft class. They have, They're 795 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 4: both very athletic. Some inconsistencies, you know, Locks interesting to me, 796 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 4: Like I don't look at him and be like, oh, 797 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 4: he might be the answer, but if you look at 798 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: what happened to him recently, Seattle insisted on getting him 799 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 4: back in the Wilson Deale, so they must not. 800 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: They didn't think he was a throwaway in that trade. 801 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 4: And then they go into next season and say it's 802 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 4: going to be a Lock Gino Smith race, and I 803 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 4: was like, are you insane? 804 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: You know that's what you're going to settle on. 805 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 4: And I think they like both, you know, and Gino 806 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 4: ended up winning and did good things. And then when 807 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 4: he left Seattle, I think Seattle's GM said something along 808 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 4: the lines of, well, the Giants said that he could 809 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 4: be in the mix for a starting job. We weren't 810 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 4: willing to give that to him at this stage because 811 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: we're so happy with Gino. 812 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. I don't know what's true. 813 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 4: What we said or not, but I don't know that 814 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 4: he's just a total throwaway, lifetime backup forget about him guy. 815 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so who knows. 816 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Daniel Jones could be a quarterback 817 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 3: who's on the open market next year. 818 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance of it. 819 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, regardless maybe regardless of what he does this year. 820 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 3: Although you know, if you look at next year, his 821 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 3: base salary is thirty million dollars and his cap is 822 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 3: forty one million dollars. They may they may just look 823 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: at it, say Daniel, we like you. We don't like 824 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 3: you at forty one million dollars. 825 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 2: Right, right, So he could be a cap casualty. 826 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 4: I mean, he needs to have a pretty good year, yeah, 827 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 4: you know, to get that get that money back, which 828 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 4: could be tough for him coming off in a cl 829 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 4: could be especially for the way he plays. 830 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: The game exactly. It sounds like it's a ways away 831 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 2: till he's ready ready. 832 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and there's some you know, we talked 833 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 3: about Connor Williams last week. A lot that that situation 834 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: that you know, these guys coming back off ACLS. 835 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: It's tough, especially late in the year. Ones. 836 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jones was a lot earlier than Williams, but still 837 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 4: pivotal time in your career when you know, not for long. 838 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what the league's all about. You had 839 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 4: a big advantage while you can't. Absolutely. But yeah, so 840 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 4: we'll start a situation. 841 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll start hearing more news like that. That's going 842 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 3: to start happening here. Obviously, there'll be a lot of 843 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 3: a lot of questions around the league about you know, 844 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: why did the Chiefs trade Lagerioste, which we just talked about, 845 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 3: or you know, or the what's the rams plan with 846 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 3: Aaron Donald's retirement? 847 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: Things like that. That then more problems will spring up. 848 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 4: And you know, an interesting thing just back to the 849 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 4: Giants real quick, Like let's say they love McCarthy and 850 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: he falls to six and they grab him, but then 851 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 4: he's not throwing anybody, you know, Like that's almost pigeonholed 852 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 4: to be a receiver, even if it's brock Bauers. I mean, 853 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 4: like this, give me the best receiver available. Episode no 854 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 4: matter who my quarterback is, I at least have something 855 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 4: more than Wandell Robinson and those type of guys. You know, 856 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 4: Waller might retire. So is this a year to do that? 857 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 4: I mean maybe the second round it is, but I 858 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 4: don't know in the first round that's the best thing 859 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 4: for your team? 860 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you know, it's it's it's tough. It's the 861 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: way you gotta wait that stuff. Yeah, a lot of stuff. 862 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: And you also, this is a situation. 863 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: Everybody talks about the combine being a place where some 864 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: deals get made because all the teams are there. Well, 865 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 3: now here, You've got all the NFL movers and shakers 866 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 3: are all here, the city decision makers are here. 867 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: And the scouts aren't here. 868 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 3: You know, you're sitting You're sitting around you say, well, 869 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 3: what would it take to to get t Higgins. 870 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: Off of you? For example? Yeah? 871 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's worth having that conversation. I'm 872 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 4: sure there's plenty of agents floating around, if not all 873 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 4: of them, you know, I mean, why would there not be? Yeah, 874 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 4: so no, this I think there could be a lot 875 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 4: of movements this week, maybe not even set in Stone 876 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 4: that comes out here as a trade. 877 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 3: Or extension talks with with agents and things of that nature. Yeah, 878 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,479 Speaker 3: you start the absolutely, you start that down that roade 879 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 3: with those things. And you know, the Steelers have some 880 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 3: guys that, you know, do they extend Pat Freyremouth this 881 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 3: offseason could be in the cards, gets in the cards. 882 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 2: Probably doesn't happen until closer to training camp, sure, but 883 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: not a priority right now. Yeah. 884 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 3: But there's things like that are are coming down the 885 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 3: pike here, and and those are things. 886 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 4: That they already made a decision on Deontae. I mean 887 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 4: it's pretty clear. I don't think they would give him 888 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 4: the money he wants a year from now. So no, 889 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 4: those things. There's a lot of big picture stuff. And 890 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 4: you know I was talking about this with draft picks too, 891 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 4: like why did the team after that guy? Well because 892 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 4: someone a year from now is coming up with a three 893 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 4: agency you know, like that wasn't the writing on the wall. Yeah, 894 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 4: I mean they tell you what they think. It's just 895 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 4: like the Simpson Queen thing. Absolutely with the bravest. 896 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, that's gonna do it for our show today, man, Yeah, 897 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 3: absolutely fun. We want to thank Rob King for stopping 898 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 3: by and dropping in to talk to us here and uh, 899 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 3: you know, I want to thank my partner Matt Williamson 900 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 3: here as I want to thank Justin Beck in the 901 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 3: studio keeping us on the air, and we want to 902 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 3: thank you for listening and watching. If you're watching this 903 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 3: on YouTube, how about find job Gerard Schaeffer O, our 904 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 3: intrepid cameraman here keeping us on the air as well. 905 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 3: H Well, thank everybody for watching and listening to this 906 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 3: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.