1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Dore listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you heard the man that time of week. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Friday. We are coming to you 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: live the tyrack dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Tyrack dot Com will help you get there. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Unmatched selection, fast free shipping for your ROADAZID protection in 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommend an installers. Tyrack dot Com. The 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: Way Tired Buying should be another absolute jam pack show tonight. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: I've got to get to Willie Mays and certainly his 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: passing and the epic event that took place last night 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: at rickwood Field. Got to give the Boston Celtics to flowers. 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: Was their championship boring? Yes? But was it meaningful? 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: It was? 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: And I will explain. Larry Beale, former Sports Center anchor, 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: you remember him, alongside Dan Patrick and Keith Oberman. He 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: joins in about fifteen minutes, And of course I've got 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: two great, great thought provoking men night our topics at midnight, 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: of course, about fifty eight minutes from now from where 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: I sit. It'll be midnight literally in Las Vegas, Pacific time, 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: and figuraedly and literally around the world. When you're listening 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: it's the midnight hour where you're at as well, and 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: you'll be dialing in and you'll hear the topics. I'll 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: set that up just a little bit, but we start 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: with frankly, the news this week that I think that 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: will resonate and we'll be talked about certainly between now 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: and next June, as the NBA news starts a little early. Yes, 27 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: in the worst cap secret since I don't know what, 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: JJ Reddick has been hired by the Los Angeles Lakers. 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: He got thirty two million. Danny Hurley was offered seventy million. 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if they wanted Danny Hurley twice as much. 31 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: But the long and short of it is JJ Reddick 32 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: as your and you know the first thing that popped 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: into my mind, and honestly, Lebron James has had eight 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: coaches in his NBA career. I would have been nine, 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: but he couldn't get Eric Spolster fired. And all of 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: those coaches, three of them, David Blatt, Tyloo and Darvin 37 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: Ham had one thing in common, and you know what 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: it is. When they were hired, all of them had 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: zero coaching experience in the NBA as a head coach. 40 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: Zero and all of them lasted exactly two years. Now, 41 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: am I predicting that JJ Reddick's only gonna last two years? No, 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm not. But if passed his prologue, you'll have to 43 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: tell me what's going to be different. What also jumps 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: at me is market calendar of December thirtieth, Lebron turns forty, 45 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: and in theory, he can also become a free agent 46 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: between now and then. Do I think he'll do that? Yeah, 47 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: it's a formality, and I think he'll sign a three 48 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: year deal with the Lakers. And we'll see if Brony 49 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: ends up with the Lake. Okay, we'll see. That's all 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: the kind of Michigan. So I'll get to with Mark 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: Medina on Saturday Night. But as a basketball situation, the 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 2: Lakers leave a lot to be desired. I mean, now 53 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: is what I call reality is set again. Be careful 54 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: what you wish for now reality is set again. I 55 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: do believe this will be an extremely short honeymoon period. 56 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: Reality sets in when you realize the team is built 57 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: on a forty year old's foundation. Yes, Lebron James is 58 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: still a pretty good player, made thirteen All NBA this season. 59 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: He's gonna suck up all the year in the room, 60 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: He'll suck up most of the salary cap. He'll get 61 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: fifty million dollars for three more years. He'll have some 62 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: good nights, He'll talk too much. He can carry the 63 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: load on a temporary basis, but there's limitations on defense, 64 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: and those limitations lower the team's ceiling period. Lebron James 65 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: is not just a guy who can the I got this, guys. 66 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna go to the Western Conference Finals. We're gonna 67 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: go to the NBA Finals. No you're not. They've got 68 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: a scramble. They've got a scuffle just to make the playoffs. 69 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: Remember how Lebron wanted the guy fired who came up 70 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: with the playing tournament. But the Lakers have been a 71 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: fixture in the Playing Tournament, and to their credit, they've 72 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: done well. But if you don't acknowledge this, then you 73 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: just don't acknowledge reality. Now, the Lakers still do have 74 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, and he was a key part of their 75 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty Epic championship run. Hey, it was a key 76 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: part of their epic in season tournament as well. Okay, 77 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: just have a little fun on a Friday night, thirty 78 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: one years old, enjoyed the healthiest season of his career. 79 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: He was solid defensively and had some big games. For me, 80 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis is their primary building block, not Lebron James. 81 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: You mean, I like hearing that, but it's fact and 82 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: Anthony Javis. Anthony Davis can be that defensive a anchor 83 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: that the Lakers really neat if he stays healthy. To 84 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: his credit, he played seventy six games last year. Will 85 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: he do that again next year? I don't know. I 86 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: don't know that he won't, but I you know, certainly 87 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: don't know that he will back to Lebron fifty million 88 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: for a forty year old. Am I implying that Lebron 89 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: James might be holding the Lakers back? 90 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: Now? 91 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: I'm not implying it. I'm emphatically stating it. Lebron is 92 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: not going to elevate them into contention as their primary option. Now, 93 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: the Lakers have some flexibility a little bit to approve 94 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: their roster. They got some mid tier contracts. You got 95 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, right, you got some first round draft picks 96 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: that can get their foot in the door. I don't know. 97 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: You know, if you want to trade that capital, do 98 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: you take a shot at a tree young, do you 99 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: take a shot at Zach Lavine or a Brandon Ingram, 100 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: Maybe even a Jimmy Butler. I don't know, he's thirty 101 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: five years old as well. But anybody that would be 102 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: the type of guy that could be the difference maker 103 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: to get the Lakers and do serious contention, which I 104 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: don't see in the cards at all, would cost more 105 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: than the Lakers can pay for. And let's say you 106 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: bring in one of those names I just mentioned. Hell, 107 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: let's say the Cleveland said we'll give you Donovan Mitchell 108 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: for three draft picks. Okay, does that help you topple 109 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Luka Doncic about the you know, Anthony Edwards or Shay 110 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: Gilgess Alexander. If they do that, then coach Reddick is 111 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: even better than I thought he was. And he was 112 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: pretty good with those nine year olds. I like the dude. 113 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: And I told you many times on the show. Chuck 114 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: Day told me once that managing an NBA team, coaching 115 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: an NBA roster is all about managing an adult daycare center. 116 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: He didn't say it the pejorative. He's got to win 117 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: that locker room. That's more than anything else. And JJ Reddick. 118 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: To me, seems like he can flip into that hard 119 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: ass more anytime he wants. And I don't know that 120 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: I would call him stubborn, but i'd call him sent 121 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: his way. It's kind of like Lebron and I would 122 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: say this that, you know, even if anything I just 123 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 2: mentioned is remotely possible. I don't know how they round 124 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: out this roster. You just don't. That's what happens when 125 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: Lebron's on your team. Lebron leads your team, you exhaust 126 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: every available option to build a champion. Well, the Lakers 127 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: tried four years ago. They're still paying for it. They 128 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: cleared their prospects, brandon Ingram and Josh Hart, handful of 129 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: draft picks, including their twenty twenty five first round selection, 130 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: all to acquire Anthony Davis. Lebron also made the decision 131 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: that they wanted to chase Russell Westbrook that also cost 132 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: the Lakers their twenty twenty seven first round pick, just 133 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: to get rid of his salary. This system is a 134 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: broken one. I am all in to see what is 135 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: going to happen. I love outside the box hires period. Frankly, 136 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: many times in history they've worked more than you may 137 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: ever realize. So we'll see what happens when the Lakers 138 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: run into trouble next season, because they will. I'm not 139 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: wishing it on them. It's just when you look at 140 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: the composition of the roster, some of the combustible, you know, personalities, 141 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, Lebron and JJ might have 142 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: a hell of a good time yucking it up when 143 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: they're doing their podcast, but this is serious business and 144 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna get on the floor next year against the 145 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: likes of you know, Dallas and certainly Denver, who I 146 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: expect to be back in a big way and up 147 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: and down the Western Conference. It's not a it's not 148 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: a picnic. So the long and the short of it is, 149 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: this will be fun to watch. It's a nice vanity 150 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: high for the Lakers. Keeps him in the news. JJ 151 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: Reddick does check a lot of boxes when you consider 152 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: what the Lakers are really trying to accomplish. But still 153 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: I believe in, you know, inside the average, they see 154 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: themselves as a championship or bus team. They do. Do 155 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: you really think when Lebron signs this three year deal, 156 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: which I'm certain he's going to, and you take up 157 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: all that real estate the next three years, they're gonna 158 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: even be in the finals. I don't you know what, 159 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: Laker fans. Lakers prove me wrong. Maybe you're right and 160 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but don't tell me. Show me coming up. 161 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: It keeps rearing its head, the Olkland names to Vegas. 162 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: We keep finding speed bumps, and they're not little speed bumps. 163 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: Coming up, We're gonna bring you the perspective from the 164 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: Bay Area side of things. Larry Beale, he's a news anchor, 165 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: a KGOTV and San fran former Sports Center anchor. He 166 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 2: and I have corresponded for about a year. It's got 167 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 2: a lot of good things to say. You're gonna want 168 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: to hear it. I'm Bernie fraddleer Kemedy live from Las Vegas, 169 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Tarrack dot Com studios. So keep it 170 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show 171 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 172 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 173 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 174 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 5: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 175 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 5: listen live. 176 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: Hey, it's me Rob Parker. 177 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 6: Check out my weekly MLB podcast Inside the Parker for 178 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 6: twenty two minutes of piping hot baseball talk, featuring the 179 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 6: biggest names of newsmakers in the sport. 180 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Whether you believe in analytics or the I. 181 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 6: Test, We've got all the bases covered. New episodes drop 182 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 6: every Thursday, So do your solfa favor and listen to 183 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 6: Inside the Parker with Rob Parker on the iHeartRadio app 184 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcast. 185 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: All right back in the Bernie Fattle Show, Fox Sports 186 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: Radio your comedy live from me Tarak dot Com studios 187 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas will take up to two and 188 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: Pacific five em Easterns. Welcome and a gentleman you remember 189 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: him back in the day hosting esp and Sports Center 190 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: along the likes of Alongside the likes of Keith Oberman 191 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: and Dan Patrick, currently with KGOTV in San Francisco. Say 192 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: hello to Larry Beal. Larry, good evening, Good to be 193 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: with you. 194 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's great to finally talk, although not in person 195 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 7: but electronically. 196 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: Yes, so we've corresponded nicely of the past year, and 197 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 2: without further ado, we should dive right into the meat 198 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: of the matter. Larry. Let me set it up this way. 199 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: Three weeks ago, I'm in a pub in London, sitting 200 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: next to some folks from Houston, and they found out 201 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: if from Vegas. The first thing you want to know 202 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: is how do you feel about the Oaklan A's coming. 203 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: So if anybody doesn't think this as a topic, this 204 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: is a topic. Let's start here at thirty thousand feet. 205 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: The A's are in the midst of a long homestand 206 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: they drew about three grand the other night. They dragging 207 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: about six thousand per game on the season. What is 208 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: the state of the state among the fans in the 209 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: city Visa VI the Oaklan A's right. 210 00:11:52,640 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 7: Now, Well, the fans have responded to John Fisher's ownership style, 211 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 7: which is to be cheaper than cheap. And you know, 212 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 7: there's a misconception that because there's nobody in the stands, 213 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 7: that Oakland doesn't have a strong fan base. It's actually 214 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 7: the exact opposite of that. So when they conduct what 215 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 7: they call reverse boycott games, the place is packed. The 216 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 7: fans love the Oakland Bays, they hate the owner. And 217 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 7: so you know, given that trying to move here, trying 218 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 7: to move there, trying to move here, trying to move there, 219 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 7: you know, finally everybody just said, hey, we hate this guy. 220 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 7: We're not giving him another dollar of our hard earned money. 221 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 7: And that's why you don't have any crowds unless it's 222 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 7: a reverse boycott day, because right now they've been pretty 223 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 7: much boycotting every game. 224 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, And that dynamic, that odd dynamic you 225 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: articulate that, Well, I'm aware of that, and I guess 226 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 2: it speaks to a general malaise for a city. It's 227 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: been a great baseball time for over fifty years. How 228 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 2: will it work next year in the A's or the 229 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: year after next when they're in Sacramento. How will they 230 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: draw there? 231 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 7: That's a great question. And I think the park that 232 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 7: they're going to play in is like ten thousand seats, 233 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 7: so they could pack, you know, three games worth of 234 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 7: fans in Oakland up in Sacramento. 235 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 8: They may do, Okay. 236 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm really curious to see how this grand 237 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 7: experiment is going to work because I was told this 238 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 7: week that they're putting in a turf field there because 239 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 7: you're going to still have a Triple A team there 240 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 7: in addition to the A's pseudo major League team, and 241 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 7: the field would not hold up, so I think they 242 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 7: had to go with an artificial surface. And I was 243 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 7: told that it's going to be about one hundred and 244 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 7: fifteen into one hundred and twenty degrees on the field 245 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 7: for the players on term. Why the Players Association would 246 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 7: go along with this nonsense? I don't have the slightest idea, 247 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 7: but it's absurd. 248 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 8: And if you. 249 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 7: Wonder, well, why Sacramento? 250 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 8: How did this happen? 251 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 7: So the Vekrona DV who owns the Sacramento Kings, he 252 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 7: made all of his money in Silicon Valley. He and 253 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 7: John Fisher are the current as owner. They're billionaire buddies. 254 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 7: So it's the billionaire helping out a billionaire. Except for this, 255 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 7: the Vekrona dive has already said he thinks the Vegas 256 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 7: deal is going to fail and he believes that Major 257 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 7: League Baseball will just say, okay, well where are the 258 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 7: A's right now? Oh, they're in Sacramento. Good, that's where 259 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 7: we're going to keep them. And that's the end of 260 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 7: the story. So he is giving his ballpark because he 261 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,479 Speaker 7: owns the park for free for three years. 262 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 9: Nope. 263 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 7: I mean, and let me tell you, when John Fisher 264 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 7: hears the word free, worst in the line. He is 265 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 7: first in line, baby, So you know it's funny. How 266 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 7: you know one of your buddies is counting on you 267 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 7: to fail in building in Las Vegas, and so that's 268 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 7: why he's hosting the team in Jacramento. 269 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the theories has been is this address 270 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: rehearsal for Sacramento to get a baseball team. That's why 271 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated by the story, because even if everything 272 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: goes perfectly, Larry, they're not going to have their first 273 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: pitch until you know, April of twenty twenty eight here 274 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, and there's a lot that has to 275 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: happen between now and then. I'm glad you brought up 276 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: the players Association. I agree with you and alan vocal 277 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: line from George Steinbanner in nineteen eighty one during the 278 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: fifty one day players strike that that was really the 279 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: very first long strike. George Steinbacher said, if Buie Koon 280 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: were alive today, we'd still be playing baseball. Of course, 281 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: that was a facetious comment. I didn't say about Rob Manfred, 282 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: where has he been in this hole? Or it seems 283 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: like his motives had been nefarious and that he's trying 284 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: to steve it or this move to get it get 285 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: the a's out of Vegas or check that get the 286 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: A's out of Oakland into Vegas. 287 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 7: Rob Manfred is, I'm sorry, he's a buffoon. He has 288 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 7: no clue what he's doing. And I have to give 289 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 7: him credit on two things. The pitch clock, brilliant, lad 290 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 7: that we have the pitchclock, let's move the games along. 291 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 7: And the game at rick Wood Field that we saw 292 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 7: yesterday with the Giants paying homage to the negro leagues 293 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 7: and Willie Mays, who unfortunately passed away this week. But 294 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 7: it's just a difficult situation. It makes no sense to 295 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 7: me what Manford is trying to do. I think that 296 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 7: the best that we can come up with is that 297 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 7: the other owners and Manford are just tired of dealing 298 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 7: with Oakland politics, which is a complete mess and has 299 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 7: been for the better part of twenty twenty five years, 300 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 7: and they just don't believe that they can get something 301 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 7: done with Oakland because they've tried and tried and tried. 302 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 7: The problem is they're trying with John Fisher and nobody 303 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 7: believes anything he says, or Dave Cavill says. 304 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 8: It's like a clown show. 305 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 7: And so if Rob Manford were to say, look, you 306 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 7: either have to get a shovel in the ground or 307 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 7: sell to a local ownership group. In Oakland, I can 308 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 7: give you easily three to five ownership groups that would 309 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 7: put down the billion one point five whatever, and then 310 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 7: you go through the undertaking of building a stadium. There's 311 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 7: a ton of money here. 312 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 8: There's people. 313 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 7: Joe lake of, the owner of the Golden State Warriors, 314 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 7: he would buy the A's in half a second. He's 315 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 7: told me personally, Look, Larry, I can't buy something that's 316 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 7: not for. 317 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 9: Sale, and that's this. 318 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 7: So until it's for sales, what do you want me 319 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 7: to do? 320 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: Talk with Larry bl ABC seven in San Francisco, former 321 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 2: Uespean SportsCenter anchor. Right, let's cut to the chase. Let's 322 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: talk about John Fish here. One of the reasons I 323 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: really wanted to have you on the night is about 324 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: ten days ago a report was banned about that in 325 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: the A's inaugural year, they want to play six or 326 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: seven games elsewhere from Las Vegas, some sort of barnstorming 327 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: tour that did not sit well here, and that led 328 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: me to believe there actually could be a chink in 329 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: the armor. Although the people I'm pretty plugged in here 330 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: and people here that no, still believe it's in ninety 331 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: nine point five percent, or that the a's are common 332 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: because enough of the powerful people wanted. But when you 333 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: hear something like that, Larry, it gives you pause. Were 334 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: you aware of that and what were the a's thinking. 335 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 7: I was not aware of it until it became public. 336 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 7: I look, this is standard operating procedure for John Fish 337 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 7: and Dave Cavill. Throw something out there that makes absolutely 338 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 7: no sense, that's going to outrage people. And also, by 339 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 7: the way, the phony boloney projections that they're supposed to be, 340 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 7: you know, generating like selling out every game for eighty 341 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 7: one days. I'm sorry, this is Fantasy Lands stuff. So 342 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 7: you know, you say ninety nine point five percent. 343 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: Well, well, they're raising the Tropicana and there's a lot 344 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: of mechanisms in play here that if they don't come, 345 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: it's going to be at it's going to be a fiasco. 346 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: Continue Larry. 347 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 7: Sorry, Well yeah, I mean sorrdy a fiasco. But I 348 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 7: would take the under a ninety nine point five just 349 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 7: from where I'm sitting. Here's you know, you want to 350 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 7: cut to the chase. 351 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 8: He doesn't have the money. 352 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 7: I was just going to go there he does not 353 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 7: have the money. Yes, he's a billionaire. And you know 354 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 7: he just got a bunch of stock from Gap, which 355 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 7: is family owns. And you know he won the genetic 356 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 7: lottery because his parents were brilliant and the created. Now 357 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 7: he's a billionaire. Okay, wow, I was born, I'm born, 358 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 7: and I'm a billionaire. 359 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 10: Man. 360 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 7: I'm really cooking here. 361 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 8: Anyway. 362 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 7: They spent a year with Golden Sacks trying to figure 363 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 7: out a financing plan. Golden Sacks is out of the deal. 364 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 7: Now now you tell me you can't get something done 365 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 7: with Golden Sacks behind you? 366 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 11: Are you kidding me? 367 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 7: They John Fisher does not want to put up much 368 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 7: of his own money. First he said it was going 369 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 7: to be five hundred million that he was putting in. 370 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 7: Then he said no, no, no, it's going to be 371 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 7: a billion, and then he went back to five hundred million. 372 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 7: You don't this guy, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday still get three 373 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 7: different responses. And that's why, you know, I if there's 374 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 7: a way for them to screw it up, they will 375 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 7: figure out how to screw it up, because that's all 376 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 7: they do. I mean, they live. This franchise for twenty 377 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 7: plus years has been trying to build stadiums everywhere. They 378 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 7: tried twice in Oakland, they tried in Fremont, which is 379 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 7: a neighboring community. They were trying to get the San Jose. 380 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 7: They can't do anything properly. And that's you know, that's 381 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 7: that's where it is. And it's unfortunate because if if 382 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 7: Manfred had any kind of guts, and I know he 383 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 7: works for the owners, so you know, the other owners 384 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 7: want to use Oakland as an example. 385 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 8: Like you're going to lose your team if you don't 386 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 8: come up with the money. 387 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 7: So that that's also a part of this and why 388 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 7: they keep you know, pushing, pushing and pushing Vegas. But 389 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 7: here's the other, you know, the other part of it. 390 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 7: Their plans, at least as we were explained, once the 391 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 7: ballpark is built, they still want to be on MLD 392 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 7: revenue sharing. They're not going to make enough money with 393 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 7: their plan. So who in his right mind would invest 394 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 7: in a money losing business that requires you to sell 395 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 7: out every home game, do not even break even? 396 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 12: And what are we doing? 397 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: So, Larry, let's talk money real quickly. Last thing for me, 398 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: the fundamental issue this is a one and a half 399 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: billion dollar ballpark cause it going to be funded. And 400 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: you're right, Fisher went from five hundred million to a 401 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: billion dollars back down to five hundred million and later 402 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: supporting for me indicates some sports finance company. I don't 403 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: know who they are, galaty Ote of Sports Partners, I 404 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: don't know who they are. I just heard their name 405 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: for the first time a couple days ago. I understand 406 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: they're bringing them in to help this much needed cash infusion, 407 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: which means Fisher would need partners, which means, according to 408 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: this econometric model, he could part with as much as 409 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: forty percent of the team, which I think is in 410 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: n F money him. Finally, today, what's going on here? Larry? 411 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 2: The local public funding here in Las Vegas committed three 412 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: hundred eighty million, and that money, which was approved by 413 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: Nevada legislators, is being heavily challenged by education advocates here 414 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Can Fisher cover this nut when push 415 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: comes to shove. 416 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 7: The information that you just conveyed is new to me, 417 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 7: and I don't know who this group is or. 418 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: Galaate Yoto, I'll spell it. You look into this because 419 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: I really enjoy corresponding with you. G a La t 420 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: Ioto galaate Yoto Sports Partners apparently some sort of finance 421 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: company who has a long history in sports finance, and 422 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: they're helping to raise five hundred million for the project. 423 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: And you're right, the Garrett the Air to the Gap fortune, 424 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: presiding over a franchise worth one point two billion, needs 425 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: to raise money. You got the floor. 426 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 7: It's none of this makes any sense, and you set 427 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 7: it up properly. He doesn't want to have to sell 428 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 7: off a huge chunk of the team because he's not 429 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 7: going to make nearly the amount of money. And that's 430 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 7: why I keep saying the intelligent thing to do is 431 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 7: to just sell it to Joe Lacob or the there's 432 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 7: another there's several other groups. So just put it that 433 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 7: way and take your billion or your one point five 434 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 7: billion dollar profit and walk and get out of this 435 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 7: because you're not running a functioning business and there's no 436 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 7: evidence to show that it's going to be any different. 437 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 8: In Las Vegas. 438 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 7: Again, we're talking about even if if this group can 439 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 7: come up with the five hundred million, you're still talking 440 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 7: about being on revenue sharing. You're losing money. Why would 441 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 7: anyone invest in this? It makes no sense. So that's 442 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 7: why we're that's why it's been eerially quiet for months, 443 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 7: nothing because they don't. 444 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 8: They have nothing. 445 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 7: I mean, the first renderings they put out were. 446 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: Like a fall. Don't get me started. 447 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 7: I mean, every step of the way, they've managed to 448 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 7: do something that just makes them look like complete incompetence. 449 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 7: And that's what they are. That is what they are. 450 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 7: The only thing to say. On the baseball side, with 451 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 7: David Forst and Billy Bean, he's kitting on more in 452 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 7: the shadows now. They do a great job of drafting 453 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 7: and developing players. That's the only reason they have anybody 454 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 7: interested in what they're dogma from really good young players. 455 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 7: But so that that's the baseball outside is fine, even 456 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 7: woefully underfunded, but the business side is a complete inferno, 457 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 7: just a disaster. 458 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 2: Hey Larry, great stuff. This is long overdue to have 459 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: you and periodically able to reach out because I think 460 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: this is a fluid situation and I appreciate your candor 461 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: so this is a real story. Thanks so much for 462 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: making time for me tonight. 463 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 7: Hey man, I'm glad. I'm glad we finally had the 464 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 7: time to connect. And next time I'm in Vegas, I'm 465 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 7: going to find. 466 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: You look forward to it. I'll pick up the tab evening. 467 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 7: Well, I might, I might be flying in tomorrow. Then 468 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 7: after that, I don't know. 469 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: Let me know. We got three thousand restaurants. I'll pick one, 470 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: all right, Thanks Larry, Larry b O ABC seven Barrier. 471 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: He's he and I have corresponded quite a bit over 472 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: the last year since the age to Satura. They were 473 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: going to move, but as you heard him say, it's 474 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: not necessarily a fade of complete. This is a this 475 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 2: is a you know, a going situation, and we don't 476 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: know really ultimate what's going to happen, although it still 477 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: feels like they're coming, but it's not one hundred percent 478 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: coming up. There was an amazing event, Rick would feel 479 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: last night in Birmingham, Alabama. I've never been to that stadium, 480 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: but actually drove by in April of twenty twenty three, 481 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: and I want to talk all about that, just ever 482 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: so quickly in the passing and Willie Mayson set up 483 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: our two midnight hour topics. And oh, by the way, 484 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: you may have heard Reggie Jackson's candid, kurt poignant dissertation 485 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: last night about what he had to go through. Well, 486 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you a story that Hank Aaron 487 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: told me in nineteen ninety one. I spent two hours 488 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: with him in the National Sports Collectors Convention that might 489 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: even top Reggis. But first, let's go to our guy, 490 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: Kevin Figures with the latest. 491 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 13: Okay, Bernie and the Stanley Cup Finals are going to 492 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 13: a Game seven after Edmonton defeated Florida five to one 493 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 13: on Friday night. The Oilers the first team since nineteen 494 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 13: forty five to force a Game seven in the championship 495 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 13: round after falling behind three games to none. Game seven 496 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 13: will be on Monday night in Florida and Baseball Show. 497 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 13: Heel Tiny reached the base four times, including hitting his 498 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 13: NL leading twenty second home run, but the Dodgers lost 499 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 13: to the Angels three to two behind Taylor Ward's RBI 500 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 13: single in the tenth. Jay Croninworth had five hits with 501 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 13: the home run for the Padres. They defeated Milwaukee nine 502 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 13: to five. The A's handed Minnesota their third consecutive loss 503 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 13: six to five the final. There, Chris Sale picked up 504 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 13: his tenth win of the season, and the Braves hit 505 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 13: three home runs in a dominant eight to one victory. 506 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 13: Over Carlos Roddan and the Yankees went for Houston, Texas 507 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 13: and Arizona, who defeated Philadelphia five to four. In golf's 508 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 13: second round the Travelers Championship, Tom kim As a two 509 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 13: stroke leader or a Scottie Scheffler and a couple of others. 510 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 13: The WNBA Kaitlin Clark sixteen points seven assists for Indiana 511 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 13: in a ninety one to seventy nine victory over Atlanta. 512 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 13: Back to Bernie Fredo. 513 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Kevin, Sure everything's going well with fatherhood? 514 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: All right? I want to talk about last night at 515 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: rick wood Field, and I want to set up the 516 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 2: Midnight Hour topics. We've got two. But let me let 517 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: me talk ever so quickly about the passing of Willie Mays. 518 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: He once said court I wasn't the best hitter Ted 519 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: Williams was, I wasn't the best fielder for Berto Clemanny was. 520 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't the best base stealer Morriy Willis was, But 521 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: I was among the best in everything. Willie May said 522 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: that back in nineteen seventy nine he was among the 523 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: best at everything. And I saw Willie play when he 524 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: was thirty eight years old, still at an athlete. He 525 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: made a catch in an old timers game at fifty 526 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: once that some center fielders in Major League Baseball today 527 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: might not even make. Played his career in Candlestick, part 528 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: six hundred and sixty home runs. I guarantee you playing 529 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: in that win tunnel. You know. At the eighty four 530 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: All Star Game, Reggie Jackson looked over at Bob Bramley says, 531 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: I really admire you. Bob. He goes, Why he goes? 532 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: You got to play in this mole for every night 533 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: it was freezing, it was windy. Had Willy played in say, Atlanta, 534 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: he might have hit another one hundred home runs. Plus 535 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: he lost two years of the military. Someone one asked me, 536 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: and twenty four once asked me in twenty four years, 537 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: why did Willy Maze only win twelve Gold Gloves? Well, 538 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: it wasn't. The Gold Glove wasn't even established until Willie's 539 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: seventh year in baseball, and then he won a twelve 540 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: straight seasons after it was established. Look, there's no way 541 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: you can compare Willie Mays to anybody playing today. Better 542 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: than anybody playing today. Sorry, the closest to me was 543 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: maybe Echiro, because eachro could run like the wind throw, 544 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: hit with power, hit, you know all those things. He 545 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: just did things with a freak show Ken Griffy Junior. 546 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: I would say Barry Bonds, yeah, offensively, but Barry Bonds 547 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: was nowhere near the defensive player Willie Mays was. And 548 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: on paper it's possible to argue that will he was 549 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: the best to ever played the game, not just statistics 550 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: but his tally in terms of his ability, whose work 551 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: transcended the game. He was larger than life, which is 552 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: going to be part of the first topic of Tonight's 553 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: Midnight Hour, which you'll dial up twenty two minutes from 554 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: now from where I sit in Las Vegas. It'll be 555 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: twelve midnight on the dot twenty two minutes from now 556 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: from where you sit, whether it be here on the 557 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: West Coast or anywhere around the world, it will either 558 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: be twelve midnight literally or twelve night midnight figuratively. Will 559 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: take your calls at eight seven seven to nine, Fox 560 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: ninety nine one Fox. Try that again, eight seven, seven 561 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: nine to nine on Fox. All right, here's where I 562 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: want to go with this topic. It's been quite a month. 563 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: Bill Walton passed away, legend icon Jerry West passed away, 564 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: legend icon Willie Mays passed away, legend icon transcended. Bill 565 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: Walton hadn't played an NBA game in thirty eight years 566 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: when he passed away. Jerry West hadn't played in fifty years, 567 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: Willie Mays fifty one years. Yet they're iconic, and they're transcendent, 568 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: and they arouse emotion. The reverence, the respect, the high 569 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: esteem that these gentlemen, you know, Garner still resonates decades later. 570 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: So here's the question, who in the hell in today's 571 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: sports tapestry might engender the same admiration fifty years from 572 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: now if they pass. I have one name, and I'll 573 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: save it for later. And it's a big maybe, but 574 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: it's the one guy that's in the NFL. But I'll 575 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: save it for later. So Bill Walton thirty eight years 576 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: ago was the last time he played, hadn't played after 577 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four, Willie Mays nineteen seventy three. Yet they 578 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: remain iconic, and the emotion that is engendered when people 579 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: talk about them, the transcendent nature, the reverence, the respect 580 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: people hold him the highest team, the tangible, visceral feel 581 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: still resonates decades later. Who possibly in today's sports tapestry, 582 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: Playing any sport might engender that same emotion and admiration 583 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: fifty years from now, when we're doing this show in 584 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: twenty seventy four. The second topic, You know, we've had 585 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: a couple of players now one in the NBA, one 586 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball, banned for life. In the last 587 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: thirty days, Pete Rose has been making the rounds, been 588 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: on a lot of podcasts. I think Pete's eighty two 589 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: years old. 590 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 14: Now. 591 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: Does it serve any fruitful purpose anymore to keep Pete 592 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: Rose out of baseball? There are two aspects of this. 593 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: He's banned from baseball. He can't work in baseball, he 594 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: can't coach, he can't be really be around it. Also, 595 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: I see no path for him to get to the 596 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. But if you're a commissioner for a day, 597 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: would you waive some sort of magic wand so at 598 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: least the writers could vote on Pete Pete in the 599 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Does it serve any fruitful purpose anymore 600 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: to deny Pete that opportunity and an opportunity to be 601 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: part of the Major League Baseball tapestry? He might, you know, 602 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: he might be a real asset and speaking to groups 603 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: as to the ills and dangers and the thirty five 604 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: years Peach's beIN in purgatory. I get it. If you 605 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: had to do it over again, he might have handled 606 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: it differently. Okay, he suffered enough, he's paid enough. Charlie 607 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: Hustle is still a name that invokes the same type 608 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: of emotion. He might be a real asset to baseball. 609 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: So those are two topics. Doesn't serve any fruitful purpose 610 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: anymore for Pete Rose to be banned. Secondly, Bill Walton, 611 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: Jerry West, Willie Mains. None of him played a game 612 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: in decades, yet they arouse that same transcendent emotion when 613 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: you mention her name. Who fifty years from now might 614 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: garner that same coming out. I tell the story that 615 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: Hank Aaron told me in nineteen ninety one at the 616 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: National Sports Collector's Convention in Anaheim. I was part of 617 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: the executive staff and I was working the green room, 618 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: and Hank, what an elegant, lovely man and what a 619 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: gentleman actually, believe it or not, He told me a 620 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: story about the biggest indignity he hit for suffered in 621 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: the minor leagues. And if you heard Reggie Jackson's story 622 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: last night, which is important to tell you want to 623 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: hear this, I'm Bernie Friddle or coming to you live 624 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio TIRECT dot Com studios. 625 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie 626 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: Friddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 627 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 628 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: How we're back on the Bernie Fridtle Show Fox Sports Radio. 629 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: Come to your live after the TIRECT dot Com studios 630 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas, eleven minutes away from the midnight hour. 631 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: From where I sit here in Las Vegas, it will 632 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: the clock will stry midnight. We'll take your calls at 633 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: eight seven, seven, nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine. 634 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 2: If you watched that impeccably wonderful event last night at 635 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 2: rick wood Field, great baseball, great history, great entertainment, celebrating 636 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: the Neger Leaks, their contribution to professional baseball, celebrating the 637 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: life of Willie Mays. If you watch the beginning of 638 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: the show, Reggie Jackson sat on a panel, and we 639 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: all know that Reggie is knocking immence words and he 640 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 2: didn't last night, and I'm glad he didn't because part 641 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: of The reason of the celebration is that until nineteen 642 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: forty seven, Blacks were denied access to Major League baseball, 643 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: even though they were good enough to play, merely because 644 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: of the color of their skin, a scorge that will 645 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 2: never be forgot. There was a young man who was 646 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: born in Mobile, Alabama, went to a high school, didn't 647 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: even have a baseball team, tried out for the Brooklyn 648 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: Dodgers we know it was fifteen, got cut, but hung around, 649 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: kept playing, joining independent Legal League team, and the ended 650 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: up moving along and signing with the Indianapolis Clowns. His 651 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 2: idol was Jackie Robinson, and by the time nineteen fifty 652 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 2: one rolled around, when Hank Aaron signed his contract with 653 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Clowns of the Negro League, Blacks were allowed 654 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: to play in Major League baseball. Obviously, Hank Aaron was 655 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 2: a standout player, but if you heard Reggie Jackson's story 656 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: last night, you're gonna want to hear this one. Reggie 657 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: Jackson talked about the inability to eat in restaurants and 658 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 2: stay at hotels that it made for quite a stressful existence. Well, 659 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: one particular time, the Indianapolis Clowns were playing an away 660 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: game at Griffith Stadium in Washington, DC, and apparently the 661 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: game got rained out or something like that. So somehow 662 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: they got to eat in a restaurant that was near 663 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: Griffith Stadium, which was unusual because they would have normally 664 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: been denied, but they were allowed to eat. So as 665 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 2: they were finishing up their meal and they started to 666 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 2: file out, the players heard a strange noise. They heard 667 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 2: plates being smashed against the walls in the kitchen after 668 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 2: they finished eating. Henry Aaron told me that was a 669 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: really terrible thing to hear. Terrible thing to hear, because 670 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 2: they all looked at each other and they realized what 671 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 2: was happening. This restaurant, even though they allowed the black 672 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: players to eat there, decided they were going to smash 673 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 2: and destroy the plates and throw off the forks because 674 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: they'd been in the mouths and been touched by a 675 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: black man. Henry Aaron told me that, you know, if 676 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: dogs had eaten off those plates, they would have just 677 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 2: washed them. That doesn't leave you. That doesn't leave you. 678 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: Now you know why Reggie Jackson said what he said, 679 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: and part of the reason the celebration last night was 680 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: so epic and so heartfelt, and there was such a tangible, 681 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 2: visceral feel, not just in the game between played between 682 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: the lines. Look, I got to interview Buck all right, 683 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: I just said my brain cramp. Buck O'Neil, excuse me, 684 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 2: what a wonderful man talked to him thirty years ago 685 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 2: and talked about the sound of the ball, back to 686 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 2: the ball, the back the ball coming off of Josh 687 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: Gibson's bad because the last time I heard that, when 688 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: I heard Bo Jackson hit a baseball, that was what 689 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: it sounded like when Josh Gibson played. Well, Josh Gibson 690 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to play in the Major League. So look, 691 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 2: the bottom line is this. We had an event last 692 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: night celebrated Willie Mays. William Mays has passed, along with 693 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: Bill Walton and along with Jerry west three huge icons. 694 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 2: None of them have played in fifty years. Walton played 695 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: thirty eight years ago. Yet they still have the same reverence, 696 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: the same respect. People hold them in the same high 697 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: esteem even though they hadn't played. You know, in Maze's 698 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 2: case in seventy three, Walton's case in seventy four, and 699 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: in Walton played in eighty six, eighty seven, and Jerry 700 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 2: Weston seventy four, who today might inspire that same type 701 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 2: of admiration fifty years from now. I've got one name, 702 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: but I don't even know if he will. And then 703 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: the other part of the equation tonight, Pete Rose has 704 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 2: been making the rounds. Doing a lot of podcasts doesn't 705 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 2: serve any fruitful purpose anymore. To keep Pete Rose banned 706 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: from baseball, he might be an ascent speaking to team, 707 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 2: speaking to players. We've already had two players banned for 708 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 2: life one of the NBA won of Major League Baseball. 709 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: Or maybe we make you commissioner for a day. You 710 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: get to waive of magic wand and you can create 711 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: a special ballot whereby at least writers can vote current 712 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 2: and past. Should Pete be admitted to the Hall of Fames. 713 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 2: Get your fingers ready eight seven seven nine nine six 714 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: sixty three sixty nine eight seven seven nine to nine. Fox, 715 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 2: we want to hear from you during the midnight hour. 716 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 2: Keep it locked You listening to the Bernie Frattle Show 717 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 718 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 719 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frattle 720 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: Show is rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fratdam 721 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 2: We are coming to you live from the tyrack dot 722 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: com studios here in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio tyrack 723 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 2: dot com. We'll help you get there at unmatched selection, 724 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: fast free shipping for your road, answer and protection, and 725 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommended installers. Tyrack dot com the way 726 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 2: tire buying should be. Phone lines are packing up. We 727 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: have two great topics. We waste no time. It is, 728 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 2: in fact the midnight hour. 729 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: Right now, the midnight hours. 730 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 2: Where I sit in Las Vegas, it is twelve midnight, 731 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 2: and from where you sit in maybe twelve midnight literally, 732 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: and it's certainly twelve midnight figuratively. We have two great 733 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 2: topics tonight. Look forward to hearing from all of you. 734 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 2: Callers have been great since we instituted this back around 735 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 2: New Year's. We start with Jim in Massachusetts. Jim, good evening. 736 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: How are you tonight? 737 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 15: Hey Bernie, how you doing? 738 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I'm sorry about Willie Passon and all. 739 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 8: Those guys and everything. 740 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 11: I remember when I was in Little League, I got 741 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 11: drafted by the Giants. I wanted to be Willie made 742 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 11: you know, you reached the team together, and then I 743 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 11: had to switch over to Willie McCovey. Because I threw 744 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 11: left and I batt left, but I was willing, and 745 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 11: I went up in the Cubs and Babe Ruth and 746 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 11: then I wanted to be Ernie Banks. And you know, 747 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 11: when you're a kid, you never cared about about the color. 748 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 11: You wanted to be the best. You want to imitate 749 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 11: the best. And those guys, And I know you said 750 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 11: another guy will be remembered in fifty years. 751 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 9: No, no, No. 752 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 11: The reason about those guys and that era is that 753 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 11: they came to play every day, whether it was practice 754 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 11: or a game, they came to play. They didn't think 755 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 11: about money. They didn't think about even though they were 756 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 11: getting paid. They didn't think about all that. It was 757 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 11: all about the games. And you don't have that anymore, 758 00:41:59,360 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 11: you know. 759 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 2: He Just so, I'm accepting your answer that there won't 760 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 2: be anybody in fifty years like a Bill Walton. Jerry 761 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 2: West is certainly Willie Mays that we'll talk about with 762 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: the same reverence. Good stuff, Jim, any any quick thoughts 763 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 2: on Pete Rose. 764 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 11: I know I told you this before a bit, Bernie, 765 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 11: that Lions used to say the Hall of Fames football players, 766 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 11: you know, and Heaven's the Saints. But after what Pete 767 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 11: Rose did to Ray Fosse and that all start game. 768 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: No, no, no, him over. 769 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, there. 770 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 9: Was no excuse for that. 771 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 11: It's just there's something about that guy that he's just 772 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 11: not on this planet, you know. And I know he 773 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 11: was the leading hits ahead of but there's always something 774 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 11: about him. 775 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 8: That you know, just you know, he's not all there. 776 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 2: You know. 777 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 11: That's the way I look at that and one other things, Bernie. 778 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 11: I know it's not a topic tonight. I think Lebron 779 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 11: and Reddick are going to go together like a bolonean 780 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 11: whipped cream sandwich. 781 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 8: I don't think. 782 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 11: That that whole thing hiring him isn't going to be 783 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 11: any good. I mean, he's going in there, what forty 784 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 11: million shy, what what they were going to offer early, 785 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 11: and he's going to solve all their problems with all 786 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 11: of his piers are going to be looking at that 787 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 11: and the way he carries himself and the way. 788 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 8: He's been that. Oh, that's going to be ugly, Bernie. 789 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be I don't think you're wrong. 790 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: I'll see how it plays out. All right, good stuff 791 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 2: as always, Jim, and joy your weekend. Steven in Los 792 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 2: Angeles joins the Bernie Frattle Show. How are you Stephen? 793 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 10: Hey, I'm doing fine, Burnie and yourself? 794 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 2: Great, buddy, What do you got for us tonight? 795 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 10: Okay, look, I want to touch all three individuals that 796 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 10: you're focusing on. First, real fast, Will Walton. I'm a 797 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 10: U c. L A basketball guy, kind of a USC 798 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,919 Speaker 10: football guy, but I was a big Mountain Man fan 799 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 10: and so I love Bill. Secondly, Jerry West. My comment 800 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,439 Speaker 10: regarding Jerry West is that what might the Lakers look 801 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 10: like today if there hadn't been the rivalry between Joe 802 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 10: Jackson and Jerry West that I think affected Genie Buss's 803 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 10: attitude towards Jerry Buss, I mean Jerry West, so that 804 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 10: when he left the Warriors, he expressed some interest if 805 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 10: I am not mistaken, at coming back with the Lakers, 806 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 10: and I think the Jackson Genie relationship affected that so 807 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 10: that it never happened, and then he went to the Clippers. 808 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 2: But what I want to do, Bud, I got a 809 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 2: lot of calls online. Is there anybody fifty years from 810 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 2: now that you can see will have the same type 811 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 2: of reference as May's Walton? 812 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 8: Or Well? 813 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 10: Can I say the one thing that I wanted to 814 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 10: say regard really because I saved him for last. So 815 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 10: I'm African American. I've been a Dodger fan since nineteen 816 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 10: fifty nine. I'm a hardcore Dodger fan, and I at 817 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 10: least for sports fun. I hate the Giants and always have, 818 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 10: but Willie Mays was the one giant I was never 819 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 10: able to hate. I was always holding my breath with 820 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 10: Vada Bretch every pitch was pitched to him. Loved him 821 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 10: in the All Star Game. Was never able to hate 822 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 10: him even though he was a giant. 823 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate you calling in, Stephen. Don't be a stranger. 824 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 2: We'll hear from you again, Solomon, also in Los Angeles. 825 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 2: Anybody here fifty years from now that you will carry 826 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: the same you heard the gentleman before the reverence to 827 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: Willie Mays. You heard come from his heart. Is anybody 828 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 2: today playing going to match that fifty years from now? 829 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 14: Well, here's believe it or not. 830 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 8: The name I came up with. 831 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 14: I don't know if he's going to get the reference 832 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 14: because he's in the cervice personality and a lot of 833 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 14: people really. 834 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 15: Don't like him. 835 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 14: But like Lilly Mays and Lily May's greatest five tool 836 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 14: American baseball player of all time. Lebron greatest five position 837 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 14: basketball player of all time. There's no other player that 838 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 14: can play the five positions as well as Lebron. He 839 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 14: may not be the best at each, but no one 840 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 14: plays as many positions as Lebron. 841 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 9: And he's done it forgot over twenty I. 842 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 2: Don't want to talk about Lebron. I could care I 843 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 2: couldn't care less about Lebron, and we ain't gonna be 844 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 2: talking about him fifty years from now. Willie May's Bill Walton, 845 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 2: Jerry West. These are icons that have moved people emotionally. 846 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 2: Is anybody playing today, Solomon that you think will be 847 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 2: carrying that same type of reverence fifty years from now? 848 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 9: Maybe magic? Maybe magic because he was real. 849 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: It's a good answer, you know what, that's a good answer. 850 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 2: I can see that, right. I got a lot of 851 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 2: loss to get. Oh you want to see something about 852 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 2: Pete Rose real quickly? 853 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 16: Oh yeah, you know it's between the rock and the 854 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 16: hard place. 855 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 14: Technically demand that on baseball, if it's his lifetime, bans you. 856 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 8: Got to respect that. 857 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 9: It comes up to a commissioner, then you got to 858 00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 9: respect that. 859 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, appreciate your answer on that. Poppy. What 860 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 2: do you got for tonight? 861 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 17: Poppy? 862 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 4: No? 863 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 2: What happened to Poppy? Where do you go? Poppy? Poppy? Poppy? 864 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 2: Ian do you have? Poppy? 865 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 18: He's connected? 866 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: Might have put him on hold. See what you gotta do? 867 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 2: We get Poppy right back? Oh you're back? Okay, Poppy, 868 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 2: we lost you? What happened? 869 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 8: Man? 870 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 2: You follow him? 871 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 3: Man? 872 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 17: You know right? 873 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 19: You know I'm working, and you know I'm gonna tell 874 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 19: you Bernie Gondo very sad. I mean I know he's 875 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 19: still have Hopefully you talk a little bit more. I 876 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 19: know you worked with the Lions and you can talk 877 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 19: about Bernie Sanders about and then uh, you know I 878 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 19: was gonna say about the you know Pete Rose. 879 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 11: I think he deserves to go to the Hall of Fame. 880 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 19: You know, I'm sports setting is legal and you know 881 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 19: baseball basketball their advertising that crazy, so I think there'll 882 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 19: be a bad job of they don't put him on there. 883 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 19: And uh, another thing I wanted to. 884 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 17: Talk about it. 885 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 11: I know you talked about it. 886 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 19: The first hour, great first hour of Bernie is a 887 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 19: you know basketball real quick. I have a prediction because 888 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 19: the MBA Draft is coming up, and I think the 889 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 19: Lakers are gonna make a move and trade with this first, 890 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 19: because then the first they got too. 891 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 2: I gotta get back on topic, Poppy, I got too 892 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 2: many callers, but you know I love you. Anybody fifty 893 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 2: years from now, yes or no? 894 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 10: Yes? 895 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 19: On baseball, what sport? 896 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 2: It could be, any sport. 897 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 19: Oh, Victor Wambama. I think vic to Wamayama is the 898 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 19: next one. 899 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,879 Speaker 2: Well, we'll you know what, We'll see what he does. 900 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 2: He could potentially be when Poppy appreciate you man, Uh, 901 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 2: we'll see you next Friday. I got to get to 902 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 2: these callers. I don't want anybody getting shout out tonight. 903 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 2: Gary in San Francisco, I'm sure you've been listening all 904 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 2: leaving me. What are your thoughts on our topics? 905 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 12: Just just a couple of hot topics, especially when you 906 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 12: talk about Willie just briefly, Bernie, I appreciate the interview 907 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 12: with Larry Beal. He's one of my favorites. 908 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 8: But good guy. 909 00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 12: Getting back, Yeah, getting back on topic. You know a 910 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 12: couple of guys I have in mind fifty years from 911 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,439 Speaker 12: now would be Aaron Judge baseball. I just love him 912 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 12: and Steph Curry. You know one of our guys. So 913 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 12: are those are two guys that I. 914 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 2: Think, Well, they did with a lot of championships now, 915 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 2: you know, and if Curry kind of changes the game 916 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 2: a little bit with his three pointers, I'm not going 917 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 2: to rule that out. Do you think though, Curry has 918 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 2: the same type of residence though, transcending the sports, just 919 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 2: the way he carries himself. Because Walton and West and 920 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 2: Mays they're just in the stratosphere when it comes to 921 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 2: their ability to relate to people above and beyond the sport. 922 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,720 Speaker 2: You think Curry will have that cashet? 923 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 12: Oh, most definitely. 924 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 8: I think. 925 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 12: Okay, the talk about the talk around the Bay Area 926 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 12: this week, Bernie has been there's only one other guy 927 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 12: that compares with Willie as far as charisma and cashe 928 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 12: a is is Staff and they comparing him a lot 929 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 12: to him. 930 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 7: And then as far as that Pete, Yeah, the. 931 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 12: Whole it's a museum, Bernie, not a corner boys section. 932 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 2: Yea. 933 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 12: So Pete has, like you said, Charlie hustle, played the 934 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 12: game hard, played the game tough. Yeah, I think he 935 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 12: deserves an opportunity. 936 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 2: Hey, good stuff, Gary, don't be a stranger. And I 937 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 2: would say this that after thirty five years now and 938 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 2: now that legalized betting is legal in thirty eight states, 939 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 2: we now have a couple of guys banned for life. 940 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 2: One in the NBA, one in Major League Baseball. There 941 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 2: are still some people who believe Shohio Tani was somewhat culpable. 942 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 2: I don't, but look there's the conversation. You see where 943 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm going with this. Perhaps Pete could be an asset 944 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 2: speak to teams and does it serve any fruitful purpose 945 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: anymore to keep him out? But also, fifty years from 946 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 2: now we have any athlete who's playing today have the 947 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 2: same kind of reference. So far, Steph Curry's been the 948 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 2: best answer, although Magic Johnson was a pretty good answer 949 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 2: as well. Coming up, we're going to take all your calls. 950 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 2: Terry and Jerome, You're both up next. We keep it 951 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 2: rolling here on the Bernie Fraddle Show. I'm Bernie Fraddle. 952 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 2: We're coming to you live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, 953 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 2: tire Act dot Com Studios. Don't go away. You're listening 954 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, 955 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 2: back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. We 956 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 2: are coming to you live from the tire dot Com 957 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,479 Speaker 2: Studios here in Las Vegas. Another rousing midnight hour. We're 958 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 2: just getting started. I want to read a tweet from 959 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: a Rod Sloan who's listening. He's not able to call in, 960 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 2: but he said Pete Rose should be in the Hall 961 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 2: of Fame and fifty years from now to be talking 962 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 2: about Tiger Woods. Yes, greatest ten year run ever changed 963 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 2: golf absolutely when they start tigerproofing courses. And I think 964 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: Tiger has rounded into really an elder statesman. Anyway, good stuff. 965 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 2: I like that. Back to the phones, Terry in Colorado 966 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 2: joins this good evening. Terry, Hello, how's the gun? Good you? 967 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 8: I'll tell you what you that I command for the 968 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 8: Hall of Fame Roberto Clemente, and not only because of 969 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 8: his on action, you know, but you know humanitarian and 970 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 8: mister Hank, mister Hank all the time, uh, you know 971 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 8: until well but no up to that point, you know, Hank. 972 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 8: I'm tell you what, Yes, do you know who I'm 973 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 8: talking about? 974 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 2: Well, what you're what I'm trying to get from folks 975 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 2: tonight is given the passing of Willie Mays. 976 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,240 Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you what Willie Mays was talking about. 977 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 2: Fifty years from now with potentially what. 978 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 8: I'll tell you what. Unfortunately, he's a bet as a 979 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 8: bit before my time. 980 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 2: You know, I but you know who he is. But 981 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 2: you know who he is? 982 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 17: Oh? 983 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 8: I was to say, hey, kuld oh, I know you. 984 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 2: Even know his nicknames. So we are we going to 985 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 2: be talking about fifty years now? 986 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 8: Hey hey kid? Do you know why they told him 987 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 8: to say he could? Because he was that excellent greeting people. 988 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 8: He would say say, hey, how you doing? No, I 989 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 8: know who he is, Willie, what you do? 990 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 2: That's what we're talking fifty hadn't played a game in 991 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 2: fifty years. We're still talking about it, Terry, real quickly. 992 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 2: Anything on Pete Rose. 993 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you what pe Rose. Until the gambling thing. 994 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 8: I was a huge he Rose fan. 995 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 2: So you and I have Is that fair? He's done? 996 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 8: Well you know something? You know he is gambling on 997 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,800 Speaker 8: his own team. Okay, I understand that now it was wrong. 998 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 8: It was against baseball rules. I think he made a 999 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 8: huge mistake. 1000 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 2: All right, Terry, appreciate you checking in tonight. Don't be 1001 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:51,800 Speaker 2: a stranger. Next up, I believe we have Jerome and Charleston. 1002 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 2: Where you been Jerome? He took a few weeks off. Man, 1003 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 2: what's going on? 1004 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 17: You didn't nobody took me to London waterm. 1005 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 2: Know you're available? Man? 1006 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 9: What was that? 1007 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 2: I didn't know you were available? So, hey, you saw 1008 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 2: the great event last night, the reverence Willie Mays, not 1009 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 2: just him, but Bill Walton, Jerry West, anybody we're gonna 1010 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 2: be talking about fifty years from now, today's landscape. 1011 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 17: Lebron James, that's for dog. Sure. Hey, no one will 1012 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 17: ever make me disrespect that guy's career and what he's accomplished. 1013 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 17: And I'm saying, I'm disappointed in Pete Rose because. 1014 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 8: How did you possibly do so? 1015 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 17: You know what they tell you about baseball, don't ever gamble, 1016 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 17: and yet you don't win ahead and did it? I'm 1017 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 17: disappointed at he would love his career going on and 1018 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 17: asked is like this, I'm disappointed. I've always been a 1019 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 17: baseball fan, Okay, I grew up. I love baseball. I 1020 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 17: don't know how they even do it. Hey tell me 1021 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 17: how you have a ball going one hundred miles and 1022 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,240 Speaker 17: I'll coming straight at you, and you don't know what's 1023 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 17: gonna go down. I'll try to wa inside out. 1024 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 8: How do you do? 1025 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 2: That's just to keep your heading the tunnel and trying 1026 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 2: to score up the bat. If you feel seven times 1027 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 2: out of ten you go to the Hall of Fame, 1028 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,320 Speaker 2: that's how hard it is. It's Jerome. 1029 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 17: No, I still be in a way. I still think 1030 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 17: Willie and uh Hankering are two of the more underrated 1031 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 17: players you know, in the history of baseball. 1032 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 2: Player it were. They're phenomenal human beings too. That's the epic. See, 1033 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 2: that's really the essence of what I'm trying to get 1034 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 2: across to people tonight, Jerome. These guys were not only 1035 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 2: phenomenal baseball players, world class athletes that performed for decades, 1036 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,240 Speaker 2: set records that'll you know, but they were wonderful people. 1037 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:33,800 Speaker 2: They were they transmitted to sport. 1038 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 17: They weren't self promoted. I mean a lot now they 1039 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 17: were like they're just it was just a different time, 1040 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 17: and I'm just glad that I got a chance to 1041 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 17: see maybe a small glimpse of them when I was 1042 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 17: going up, because uh, they were just tremendous baseball players. 1043 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 2: Good stuff, Jerome, very good. I feel I felt that 1044 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 2: I felt that phone call Ben in Minnesota joins the show. 1045 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 2: Good good night or you have to good night. Jeesus, 1046 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 2: good evening, Ben, do we have been in I apologize 1047 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 2: you and you told me that Fred Nebraska is up next. 1048 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging on Fred. 1049 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 15: Hello there, Uh, he rose. I'd put him in because 1050 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 15: of what he did on the field. I think the 1051 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 15: gambling stuff came lay here in his career. But you know, 1052 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 15: you can't get manager and it. 1053 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 2: And it predated. Yeah, you make a you make a 1054 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 2: distinction there. Uh yeahd that that they never had any 1055 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,839 Speaker 2: evidence that he gambled as a player, to the best 1056 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 2: of my knowledge, but as a manager. So continue on. 1057 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 15: That was just going as a player. And as I 1058 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,760 Speaker 15: understood your question to be, who is playing in sports 1059 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 15: today that we'd be remembering in fifty years, because yeah, 1060 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 15: the one guy, the one guy stole my thunder And 1061 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 15: he said, Tiger Woods. The only Tiger still playing. 1062 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 2: He just played in the US Open. He might not 1063 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 2: have made the company. He's still entering tournaments. 1064 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,240 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean he's not Tiger more. 1065 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 2: We get that, right, right. 1066 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 15: Yeah, that's true. 1067 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, and for you, I'll tell you, let's do this. 1068 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,280 Speaker 2: You selected Tiger for a reason. Tiger is still active. 1069 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 2: I believe he'll be active a couple more years as 1070 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 2: long as he's you know, can walk the course, I 1071 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 2: think he's going to continue to play. What is it 1072 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 2: about Tiger? I know my answer? What is your answer 1073 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 2: that would make you believe that people will be talking 1074 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 2: about him fifty years fromout, which I believe they will 1075 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 2: for sure. 1076 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 15: Just because of how he dominated when you played for 1077 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 15: that but eight year stretch or whatever like that, ten. 1078 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 20: Years yeah, absolutely, Yeah, this is going to be a 1079 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 20: bad comparison, but TV all the numbers go way up 1080 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 20: when he's a lot playing, just. 1081 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 15: Like Caitlin's are. But regardless of that, who's playing today 1082 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 15: In the four ball sports that I can think of 1083 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 15: that we'd be remembering fifty years. I can only think 1084 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 15: of one or two, and they both played for the 1085 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 15: Kansas City Chiefs. But then to go beyond the stick 1086 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 15: and ball sports, you could look at car racing. 1087 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 2: Any sport. It could be car racing, be in the 1088 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 2: Olympic sports, it could be individuals sports. You'd be track 1089 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 2: and field. Somebody who's transcendent, not necessarily just because of 1090 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 2: their performance on the field, but because of the way 1091 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 2: they're perceived in public. 1092 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 15: You guys is thinking in IndyCar racing, we think of 1093 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 15: Mario andreting aj Poyt. We don't think of anybody else 1094 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 15: that I know of, And in stock car racing, with 1095 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 15: all of the championships of Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson, 1096 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 15: is one we still think of Dale Earnhart Senior. So anyway, 1097 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:27,439 Speaker 15: that's all I got. 1098 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks a lot for checking in, fred Tony and Miami. 1099 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 2: How are you, Buddy, Bernie. 1100 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 21: I don't know if they have to be alive, but 1101 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 21: I would go with Charles Barkley whenever if. 1102 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 2: He makes it go under what I'm trying to what 1103 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get, just to reset the topic, anybody 1104 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 2: who's still active today that that you know. So Barkley 1105 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 2: has obviously been retired a long time, so it's anybody 1106 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 2: who's active. Tiger's still active. Somebody mentioned Lebron. If these 1107 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 2: people resonate with you in a transcendent fashion above and 1108 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 2: beyond this foard on the floor or the court of 1109 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 2: the field, we might be talking about fifty years from now. 1110 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 8: I mean, with. 1111 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 21: Because Brady retired, I would say, Brady, I don't think 1112 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 21: he's inactive, but I'll count him. 1113 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 2: What the hell he's He's only a year or two 1114 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: removed and Yeah, well that's a good one. That's that's 1115 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 2: a really good one. 1116 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 21: We're going on personalities and the way Jerry West and 1117 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 21: Will Walton, it really made made you feel after hearing them, 1118 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 21: it touched your soul. And I really believe that the sadly, 1119 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 21: the advent of phones and technology has watered down a 1120 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 21: lot of personalities that are playing today. And somebody, just 1121 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 21: so you know, somebody brought. 1122 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 9: Up the business aspect of it. 1123 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 8: It was always a business. 1124 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 21: But we still have Isa Thomas and Lawrence Taylor. 1125 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 8: It was a business back then. 1126 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 21: But I'm saying that technology has watered down to where we. 1127 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 2: Shrumped the world's reality. It shrumped. Yeah, so that's a 1128 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 2: good theory that has been banned about what would Mickey 1129 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 2: Mantle's care look like if Twitter were alive, when Mickey 1130 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 2: Mannle were alive, you get my drift. I mean some of. 1131 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 21: Those yeah, or Bill Walton, I mean he was beyond technology, 1132 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 21: and so was Jerry West talking about a lot of 1133 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 21: the topics he touched on. It wasn't about technology. 1134 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 8: He was connecting. 1135 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 21: So they're never going to be forgotten. 1136 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 22: And the guy some of these guys bring up Lebron 1137 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 22: Lebron to be forgotten ten years in terms of his records, 1138 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 22: won't go anywhere. But he's got a very sterile, inauthentic 1139 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 22: personality and I'll leave it at that. 1140 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 2: It's a very thoughtful call. Ben, don't be a stranger. 1141 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 2: We do this every Friday night at midnight Pacific time. 1142 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 2: Appreciate your thoughts. Ian Am I having a brain cramp? 1143 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 2: Was that Tony or was that Ben in Wisconsin? 1144 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 18: That was Tony? 1145 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 2: I apologize. I'll pay better attention here Ben and Wisconsin. 1146 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 2: Thanks again, Tony, Ben Wisconsin, you're up next. Your thoughts? 1147 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 23: Hey, you're going active? I think that at the home. 1148 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 2: There's my guy. 1149 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 23: Yes he is what he does in the community. How 1150 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 23: personally is I think that's your guy. 1151 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 8: Now I'm thirty nine. 1152 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 23: So I'm with the baseball guy. 1153 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 16: The ninety for me did. 1154 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 23: Not active, but ten years did Jr. I think the 1155 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 23: reader he brought people into baseball. And it's a personality. 1156 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 23: And I'll go, I mean he's a kid. 1157 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 10: You have to take a ke. 1158 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 17: You're not a kid. 1159 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 2: But for sure noted any quick thoughts, Ben on Pete Rose. 1160 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 2: Would you would you let him back in. 1161 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 23: If he showed some kind of remark that you consist 1162 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 23: all hav an intelligent conversation and it kind of admit 1163 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 23: to what he did. And as the player, absolutely, I 1164 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 23: think as the player, those records beat something and they 1165 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 23: have something. 1166 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Hey appreciate you checking in man, good points both. We 1167 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 2: will continue after Kevin's update, Ben Well and Jeff and 1168 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 2: will continue to take your calls at seven to seven 1169 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 2: the Fox. We've waved goodbye in the last month to 1170 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 2: Willie May's, Bill Walton and Jerry West. None of them 1171 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 2: have played in decades. Who among today's landscape Maybe Tiger 1172 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 2: that's a good one. And Patrick Mahomes is my guy. 1173 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 2: I think he's got a chance. He's got that or 1174 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 2: about him very much. He's the likability factor. And Pete 1175 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 2: Rose does a serety, fruitful person anymore to keep Pete 1176 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 2: Rose on the outside looking in. We'll continue with your 1177 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 2: calls eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox. For 1178 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 2: first we go back to a guy Kevin figures with 1179 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 2: the latest. 1180 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 13: All right, Bernie, We're headed to a game seven in 1181 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 13: the Stanley Cup Finals after Edmondson defeated at Florida five 1182 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 13: to one on Friday night. Despite a relatively quiet evening 1183 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 13: from Connor McDavid. He didn't even have a shot on 1184 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 13: goal did not matter. A win on Monday Night in 1185 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 13: Florida would make the Oilers just the second team to 1186 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 13: win the Cup after falling behind three games to none 1187 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 13: on the dime of the Angels defeated at the Dodgers 1188 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 13: three to two and ten innings. Despite show Heal Tiney 1189 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 13: hitting his twenty second home run of the season, Houston 1190 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 13: scored nine runs in the sixth inning and held on 1191 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 13: to be Baltimore or fourteen to eleven. Luisa Rise and 1192 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 13: Jay Cronerworth both with home runs for the Padres. They 1193 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 13: defeated the Brewers nine to five. The Braves have won 1194 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 13: seven of their last eight. They hammered the Yankees eight 1195 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 13: to one. The Red snapped Boston's five game win streak. 1196 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 13: Wins for Cleveland, Texas and Miami, who picked up their 1197 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 13: third consecutive walk off win a three to two victory 1198 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 13: over Seattle in ten innings and the WNBA. Kaitlin Clark 1199 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 13: scored sixteen points with seven assists as the Fever defeated 1200 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 13: the Dream in Atlanta ninety one to seventy nine. 1201 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 2: Back to Bernie Freddo all right, thanks Kevin, we go 1202 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 2: back out to the full lines. Man, Well, the biggest 1203 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 2: thing to come out of LA since Paco's Tacos. We 1204 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 2: have been man, well, you took a couple weeks off too. Man. 1205 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 16: Oh, Bernie Sprotto burn baby Bird. 1206 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 17: Hey man, you know what, Yeah, I just been. 1207 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 16: Working, but I've been listening. You know you always put 1208 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 16: on a really good show. You're a broadcast professional. Appreciate 1209 01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 16: all the sports kid beats what my name? Kind of 1210 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 16: a fooler? 1211 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 9: You all that good stuff. 1212 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 16: Speaking of fools, O is p row still combing his 1213 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 16: hair with a spoon, Bernie, he. 1214 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 2: Lives here in Vegas. I run into him now and 1215 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,919 Speaker 2: then I'll have to ask him you he turned eighty two, man, 1216 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 2: well two years old, believe it or not. 1217 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,200 Speaker 16: God bless him. I know he was with that one 1218 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 16: Asian addie, which is still rack. 1219 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 10: God bless him. 1220 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 16: Man, Hey, but you know what, he's a hit king, 1221 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 16: and uh, I think MLB really needs to lift themselves 1222 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 16: in the mirror. I don't know if you brought it 1223 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 16: up or not. You know, in old days, per Willie Mays. 1224 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 24: That say hey kid, regarded by some as. 1225 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 16: The greatest baseball player ever, was actually reprimanded, right because 1226 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 16: it's a greater. 1227 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 2: In Atlantic City. Yeah. And then they told him he 1228 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 2: couldn't do it anymore. 1229 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 16: Yeah, and you know so, and now they're in bed 1230 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 16: with draft Kings and. 1231 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 2: Yes, seasons pull that thought, man, well, because does it 1232 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 2: serve any fruitful purpose anymore? Now to keep he out 1233 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 2: and let it what's happening? I could see him speaking 1234 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 2: to team. 1235 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 16: Yes, absolutely, I'm trying to say, you know, Paul Giomotti's 1236 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 16: pops had an act to grind. He did. Pete was lyon, 1237 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 16: you know. I mean, hey, we all know what's worse 1238 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 16: to cover up or the lie itself. 1239 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 2: And again you're onto something big there. Man. Well he 1240 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 2: had a chance to come cleaning. Eighty nine A Bart 1241 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:32,439 Speaker 2: Giamatti passed and his deathbed wish uh was no, don't 1242 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 2: let him in. Hey, real quickly, I want to get 1243 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 2: your thoughts. We're gonna be talking about anybody playing today 1244 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 2: in any sport. I don't care it's Telly Winks, like 1245 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 2: we're talking about William May's, Bill Walton, Jerry west. 1246 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 16: Man. I hate to say it, but you know who 1247 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 16: that we're going to be talking about like that, Lebron James. Okay, 1248 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 16: you know down the line, whether it's his legacy of 1249 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 16: his galleon or whether it's his legacy of nepotism. It 1250 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 16: will be poking about it. 1251 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 2: And well, always with your your ball. I love it. 1252 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,959 Speaker 2: You set us up and then you snap off. Uncle 1253 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 2: Charlie there you're the man. 1254 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 8: Love the show, Bernie. 1255 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 3: Keep up the good work, bir baby burn. 1256 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 2: That is the legendary Manuel in Guardina, Jeff in Denver, 1257 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,880 Speaker 2: you are up next. Welcome to the Bernie Frattle Show. 1258 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 9: First of all, shout out to your who what kind 1259 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 9: of fool are you? 1260 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,800 Speaker 2: We do it every Saturday night, man, I know it's 1261 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 2: it's really taken off. We do it Saturday night at 1262 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 2: two am Pacific, five am Eastern. We'll have another doozy 1263 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 2: tomorrow night. All right, what are your thoughts on our 1264 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 2: two topics? 1265 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 9: I got a couple of them. And as far as 1266 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 9: who's active who's not active, you almost got to include 1267 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 9: Mike Tyson. 1268 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 2: I like that one. I like that one a lot 1269 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 2: because he's a guy who's clear, he's been in movies transcended. Yeah, yes, 1270 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,520 Speaker 2: continue on. I'll go with that one. He's still active 1271 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 2: fighting Jake Paul fifteen. 1272 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 9: And a couple other ones that Candermine or Shohani for 1273 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 9: the fact that you know can pitch and hit. 1274 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 2: See what he does really good ones, really good ones. 1275 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 9: Joker and being from Denver, Joker Nicole entirely. 1276 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 2: Possible, depending on how many more championships he wins been 1277 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 2: entirely possible. Thoughts on Pete Ruse, Pete Rose, excuse me, Ruse? 1278 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 2: Is that is that a Freudian slip? 1279 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 9: Go to go ahead, and I am adamant adamant on 1280 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 9: Pete Rose. Let him in the Hall of Fame is 1281 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 9: based on what you did as a player, not anything else. 1282 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 9: He bet, Yeah, he made mistake. He bet when he 1283 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 9: was coaching, Okay, But as a player, he deserves to 1284 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 9: be let in. I am adamant on that. You've got 1285 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 9: to let him in. As a player, he's an he's 1286 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,479 Speaker 9: an author. Hall of Famer. 1287 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Plus, you know, Jeff, so much history has transpired, right, 1288 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 2: gambling is legal now, he's paying his pennance for thirty 1289 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 2: five years. I think he could be an asset to baseball. 1290 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't think it serves a fruitful purpose anymore. Uh. Anyway, 1291 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 2: you got the last word, Jeffy, I want to get 1292 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 2: to the air calls. 1293 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 9: Go ahead, it should be based on what he did 1294 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 9: as a player. As a player, he's a hall of 1295 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 9: you should need they need to separate it and let 1296 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,559 Speaker 9: him in. I am adamant on that. 1297 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 2: He really really good stuff. Jeff really good. Don't be 1298 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,800 Speaker 2: a stranger man, Bill in Chicago, How are you? 1299 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,599 Speaker 8: Bill? Very good? 1300 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:29,680 Speaker 4: Good? 1301 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 2: You got the you got the floor man. 1302 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 9: Well, first of all, you know, with p Rose, I 1303 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 9: was like an amateur sports is. 1304 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 12: He's betting on That's something that happens all the time. 1305 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 11: Like in bowling leagues, softball leagues and everything else. 1306 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 12: He's betting on his own team. I definitely don't have 1307 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 12: a problem with that. 1308 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 2: So, uh so you give him a shot to to 1309 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 2: reinstate himself in some in former fashion. Anybody we're talking 1310 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,800 Speaker 2: about fifty years should matter with the same reverence as Williams, 1311 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 2: Bill Walt and Jerry West. 1312 01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 8: I think he's an obvious one. 1313 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 2: Leo mess Oh, that's a good one too. Now it's 1314 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 2: an international sport at soccer, that's okay, I'll go with that. 1315 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 2: You're you're ratching out for that. 1316 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1317 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 9: First of all, he's in Miami, so he's. 1318 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 12: A US now. Yeah, I mean it's his popularity and 1319 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 12: you know, having won a world that they're gonna be 1320 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 12: talking about him because here, well, you. 1321 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:23,880 Speaker 2: Know, I'll tell you why I liked that one a lot, 1322 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 2: because you know, we still talk about Pelee. Pelee hadn't 1323 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,000 Speaker 2: played a long time. All right, Hey, that's good stuff. Bill, 1324 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:34,559 Speaker 2: appreciate you, man. Uh. Kovika in Maui, Hawaii, Hello, welcome 1325 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 2: to the show. 1326 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 24: Hello, thanks for taking my call. 1327 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 17: Yeah. 1328 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,639 Speaker 24: Absolutely, I'd let Pete rose in Gammoti head it out 1329 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 24: for him, and then Ceely was just friends of Gammty. 1330 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 8: I think that. 1331 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 15: Yeah, but he. 1332 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 24: Was the best hitter of all time with the last 1333 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 24: one hundred years. However, major League Baseball is uh, they should. 1334 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 15: Let Bonds in. 1335 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:59,560 Speaker 24: I mean just for his numbers in Pittsburgh and Clemens 1336 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,719 Speaker 24: uh who else? 1337 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 14: What else? 1338 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 24: Fifty years turnout? Tiger Brady. 1339 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:12,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've heard some doodles Tiger, Mike Tyson and Lebron Okay, 1340 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 2: all right, not bad, good stuff, Kovika, appreciate you man. 1341 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 2: Mike in Arizona, you're up next. Your thoughts? 1342 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 3: How you doing? 1343 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me you bad? Welcome in. 1344 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,800 Speaker 8: I do I have I have too. 1345 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 3: The first one is new, but I do believe Caitlin 1346 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 3: Clark will be because I think that's going to change 1347 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 3: the n W n b A in popularity, and I 1348 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,599 Speaker 3: think she'll be talked about the transending that point. 1349 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just getting started. But it's entirely popple. When 1350 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,639 Speaker 2: you see. The thing is, when you sell that many tickets, 1351 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,720 Speaker 2: that's not a fluke. When you you're ready to the roof, 1352 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 2: that's not a fluke. So it's got to play itself off. 1353 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna I'm not going to be dismissive 1354 01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 2: of that, Mike at all. Uh, you're our thoughts on 1355 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 2: I'm Pete Rose. 1356 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,439 Speaker 3: Pete Rose should definitely be an all of man. 1357 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 2: Or maybe even involved. It's kind of double faceted. Whether 1358 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 2: or not they allow him an opportunity for a vote 1359 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:15,639 Speaker 2: to be in the Hall of Fame is one thing, 1360 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 2: but at least maybe allow him back in baseball, Let 1361 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 2: him speak to teams, let him make the rounds. Right, 1362 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 2: you can't do it? 1363 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm a huge baseball fan and like 1364 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 3: Pete Rose was a big part of that, so I 1365 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 3: I think he's a huge part of baseball and history 1366 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,879 Speaker 3: and everything. So yeah, he should definitely. 1367 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 2: Sure, all right, Mike appreciate you man, don't be a stranger. 1368 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 2: Thank you. Bryce in Texas, You're up next. How are you? 1369 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:45,080 Speaker 25: I'm doing well? 1370 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,919 Speaker 8: Uh yeah, let Peter Rose. 1371 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 25: Back into baseball. If you're going to kick him out, 1372 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,679 Speaker 25: you got to kick Berry Bonds out and Mark Required 1373 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 25: those guys out too. And to me, Star Wars is 1374 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 25: a lot more clicking to baseball than gameling. So yeah, 1375 01:11:59,040 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 25: you gotta let Peter Ros back. 1376 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 2: All right. So who are we going to be talking 1377 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 2: about fifty years from now that's still suited up. 1378 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,320 Speaker 25: I think it's a group of athletes. I think you 1379 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,679 Speaker 25: just missed the golden era of tennis. So the big 1380 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 25: three adults that A and Djokovic and then Serena Willitons 1381 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 25: like if you haven't been one. 1382 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:21,719 Speaker 2: Yes, all good names, especially Serena Williams, especially Serena Williams, 1383 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 2: you know, because she's American too, right, and and a 1384 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 2: lot of you know, tennis used to be huge And 1385 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 2: I've often wondered, Uh, Bryce, part of the reason I 1386 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 2: think tennis is not mainstream anymore is because the best 1387 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,759 Speaker 2: players aren't American. Is that is that a fair assumption? 1388 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:43,599 Speaker 25: Oh yeah, and uh there's no real like dirty rival 1389 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 25: like John mcro used to be the bad guy. 1390 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 8: Who's the bad guy? 1391 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:54,520 Speaker 2: Connors McEnroe, Chris Everett, Martina and Avertilova. Right, you're excellent points, 1392 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 2: all right, Bryce, good stuff, man. We do this every 1393 01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 2: Friday night. It had midnight Pacific coming up. We wrap 1394 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,639 Speaker 2: up the two topics on the midnight hour. We got 1395 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,519 Speaker 2: to get the crew as well, to get their thoughts. Listen, 1396 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 2: you felt it last night, the reverence towards Willie Mays 1397 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,080 Speaker 2: when he passed on Wednesday, issued the statement he had 1398 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,599 Speaker 2: planned to attend that event, and look what happened. Bill Walton, 1399 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,720 Speaker 2: same deal, Jerry West, same deal. Who're going to be 1400 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 2: talking about fifty years from now? And of course doesn't 1401 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 2: serve any fruitful purposes anymore. To keep Pete Rose outside 1402 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,439 Speaker 2: of baseball on the outside looking in. Have Bernie Fridda 1403 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 2: our company live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio 1404 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 2: Diirect dot Com studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to 1405 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,479 Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. I we're 1406 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,040 Speaker 2: wrapping it up the midnight hour, the Bernie Frattle Show. 1407 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 2: Of course, from where I sit. In the last forty 1408 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 2: eight minutes, it has been the midnight hour here literally 1409 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, where we did the show. Perhaps where 1410 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 2: you live it's the minnight hour as well, but figuratively 1411 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 2: for all the listener hits him in that hour. Really 1412 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 2: good stuff tonight. I'm impressed with a lot of the 1413 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,080 Speaker 2: thoughts as I figured the Pete Rose things kind of 1414 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 2: down the middle, some yes, some no, and as far 1415 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 2: as fifty years from now, had some interesting, really good 1416 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 2: names that maybe I hadn't thought of Patrick Mahomes as 1417 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 2: going to be my guy. But look, Mike Tyson, Tiger Woods, 1418 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 2: even lean O Messi right on down the line, some 1419 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 2: really good ones. Kevin Figures. Let's start with you. You 1420 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 2: saw the reverence for the Willie Mays this week. Proud 1421 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,639 Speaker 2: to that we talked about Bill Walton, certainly Jerry West 1422 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 2: as you peruse the landscape, anybody playing today that we 1423 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,559 Speaker 2: are going to be talking about in fifty years with 1424 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 2: the same type of reverence. 1425 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, somebody brought up Lebron James. I think 1426 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 13: it was Manuel and Guardian and it's kind it's kind 1427 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 13: of hard to argue. I know, he's very, very polarizing 1428 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,559 Speaker 13: as a figure, but you talk about the fact that 1429 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,800 Speaker 13: he's you know, broken records, won multiple championships, regarded as 1430 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,800 Speaker 13: one of the best players in league history, along with 1431 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 13: you know, Michael Jordan. There's kind of a one in 1432 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,799 Speaker 13: one a or a great. 1433 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 5: Debate, you know. 1434 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 13: And someone said that he's not going to be remembered 1435 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,400 Speaker 13: because of all the dramas surrounding Yard, the fact that 1436 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 13: he's not that great of a personality, or he's not genuine, 1437 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 13: whatever you want to say about him. 1438 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 2: You know, Kevin, not to cut you off what you 1439 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,639 Speaker 2: just did. I plead guilty. I said that because he'll 1440 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,640 Speaker 2: be remembered, he'll be acknowledged. I don't think there'll be 1441 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 2: the reverence. I think Lebron wants there to be. I 1442 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 2: don't think there will just an opinion. We're doing sports 1443 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 2: talk radio here, not solving the world's problems. Continue on. 1444 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 2: It means to cut you off. 1445 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 13: No, no, you're right, and from a reverence standpoint where 1446 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 13: you universally loved. I think you're right, because he is 1447 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 13: a polarizing figure from that standpoint, so he's not going 1448 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 13: to be universally loved. I think he'll be respected. And 1449 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 13: someone brought up Tom Brady. I think Tom Brady to 1450 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,680 Speaker 13: a certain graph. I also think the second part of 1451 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 13: his career as a broadcaster. If he does as well 1452 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 13: of a job as I think he's going to do, 1453 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,840 Speaker 13: I think a lot of people who are not necessarily 1454 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 13: in his camp are going to end up being fans 1455 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 13: of his, and he's going to end up having a 1456 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 13: legacy not only as a broadcaster, but obviously following up 1457 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:50,519 Speaker 13: his great playing career as well. 1458 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 2: Kevin hold that thought. I want to get to you 1459 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:54,800 Speaker 2: and the rest of the crew after the top of 1460 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 2: the hour because it gets your thoughts on Peter Rose 1461 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 2: as well. I want to wheeze in one more call here, 1462 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 2: being it is the midnight hour. Rob in Michigan, joins us. Rob. 1463 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,480 Speaker 2: What part of Michigan you call him from? 1464 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:12,880 Speaker 4: Well, the straits like Mackinaw City if you're familiar with 1465 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 4: the area. 1466 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 2: Remember I lived there seventeen years, Bud. And by the way, 1467 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,799 Speaker 2: I've even been to the Grand Hotel in this somewhere 1468 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:19,599 Speaker 2: in time exhibit. 1469 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,799 Speaker 4: All right, well you know the place. 1470 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 10: I'm Pete. 1471 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:29,639 Speaker 4: You know, okay, I'm Pete Rose. I think he doesn't 1472 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,919 Speaker 4: have to do any kind of act of contrition. 1473 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:33,639 Speaker 10: That's stupid. 1474 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 4: It's like not acknowledging the fact that Nixon was ever president. 1475 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,600 Speaker 4: You know, he screwed up, but. 1476 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 2: He did some pretty good at forgiving in America. This 1477 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 2: kind of crossed the line with gambling and baseball in 1478 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,960 Speaker 2: the locker rooms. My thing, Rob, is that that doesn't 1479 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 2: serve any fruitful purpose anymore. That's all I'm asking. Thirty 1480 01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 2: five years in limbit in progatory. Gambling is legal. Now 1481 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,559 Speaker 2: you got guys being banned. I think Pete could make 1482 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 2: a contribution. That's my thought. 1483 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 4: Oh for certain, Yeah, yeah, anybody we're. 1484 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 2: Gonna be talking about fifty years. 1485 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,639 Speaker 4: Hero Now, well, I still have to go with Tiger, 1486 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,799 Speaker 4: but I also would like to sneak John McEnroe in there, 1487 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 4: just because I'll go with it. 1488 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,679 Speaker 2: But he's not playing anymore. But you're not wrong. Maybe maybe, 1489 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 2: but you can't be I could resist. 1490 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 4: The British guys thought that he was such an awful thing, 1491 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,360 Speaker 4: but he really held up for America. 1492 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 2: He did. Hey, listen, he was part of those great rivalries. 1493 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,639 Speaker 2: And listen, Rob, we do this. I'm short on time. 1494 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,639 Speaker 2: We do this every Friday night. It'd be three am 1495 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,080 Speaker 2: your time there in Mcanawsie, a beautiful part of the country. 1496 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 2: I encourage anybody to go there. We do have one 1497 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,240 Speaker 2: more Frank in Orlando, Frank, before I get to you, 1498 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 2: acc tweets in that anybody mentioned Michael Phelps got about 1499 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 2: a minute, Frank, go go ahead. 1500 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,799 Speaker 26: Yeah I got too, if you don't mind, I got 1501 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 26: Steph Curry. 1502 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 2: Okay, that was mentioned basketball. 1503 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,440 Speaker 7: And then you're saying Bolt. 1504 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 2: Is he still competing? You've seen Bolt he is. 1505 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,759 Speaker 9: He's still He's still doing. 1506 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 2: It, you know what, because of his astronomical world records. 1507 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,400 Speaker 2: But you think it's somewhat stained by the fact of 1508 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:23,920 Speaker 2: the sterid testing. 1509 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 26: Yeah, maybe, uh. 1510 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,519 Speaker 2: Okay, uh, Pete Rose, yes or no? 1511 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,639 Speaker 26: You will let men, he's one of the best hitters 1512 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:37,719 Speaker 26: ever to play well. It was a hitting coaching coaching different, 1513 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,200 Speaker 26: but as a hitter, you ain't getting better than him. 1514 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean the thing is, Charlie Hustle, What 1515 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,000 Speaker 2: what purpose does it serve anymore to keep him out 1516 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 2: at this point since gambling is legal? 1517 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,160 Speaker 8: Right, yep? Correct. 1518 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us tonight, Frank. We do this every 1519 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 2: Friday night. As always. I appreciate the callers. Man, We 1520 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 2: don't have to agree. You've heard me say a thousand times. 1521 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 2: The most boring conversations are when everybody agrees. And you know, 1522 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,000 Speaker 2: as I've also said a thousand times that in the 1523 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 2: landscape of radio, in the shopping malle of life, sports 1524 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 2: is a toy department. We're not solving the world problems here. 1525 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 2: We're not doing anything except exchanging thoughts and opinions, and 1526 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 2: hopefully you back your thoughts up with relevant specifics and 1527 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 2: accurate knowledge and personal information. And the calls are tremendous. 1528 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,360 Speaker 2: I mean, we had twenty one calls tonight and I 1529 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,679 Speaker 2: appreciate every one of them. And next Friday rolls around, 1530 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 2: we'll have more salacious topics. I guess. I also want 1531 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,000 Speaker 2: to bring the crew in. We can't complete the midnight 1532 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 2: hour without Kevin finishing and Mark and Ian, so we're 1533 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:46,600 Speaker 2: going to do that coming up top of the art. 1534 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 2: But I also want to give the Boston Celtics their flowers. 1535 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,719 Speaker 2: It was boring, but meaningful. I'll explain. Keep it locks. 1536 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,840 Speaker 2: The Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. 1537 01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 1: Do're listening to Fox Sports Radio? 1538 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,880 Speaker 2: Yep, that's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Fraddle 1539 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,439 Speaker 2: Show keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddlewick 1540 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,320 Speaker 2: kemedy lyon from tyrec dot com studios here in Las Vegas, 1541 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Tyrack dot com will help you get 1542 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 2: there an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, fore road aser 1543 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,960 Speaker 2: protection in over ten thousand recommended installers tyrack dot com. 1544 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:26,760 Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be another raucous, rousing informative. 1545 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:31,680 Speaker 2: I thought Midnight Hour we talked certainly about the situation 1546 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:36,639 Speaker 2: with Pete Rose, and look in the last few weeks 1547 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:41,559 Speaker 2: Jerry West, we wave goodbye to Bill Walton, and now 1548 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 2: Willie Mays, and Willie was going to attend the event 1549 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,400 Speaker 2: in Rickwood. These are guys who haven't played games in decades, 1550 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,479 Speaker 2: in some cases fifty years. Yet they're still iconic, They're 1551 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:55,800 Speaker 2: still transcended, they still arouse emotion. People have reverence for 1552 01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,640 Speaker 2: these guys, the respect the highest team. It still resonates 1553 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:04,000 Speaker 2: decades later. Easier people you thought would live forever. Let's 1554 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,679 Speaker 2: go back to Kevin figures. Kevin, you answered, and who 1555 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,599 Speaker 2: we thought might be talked about in the same reverence 1556 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,680 Speaker 2: fifty years from now. Let's get to the Pete Rose situation, 1557 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 2: which was much more kind of down the middle. Some yes, 1558 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,600 Speaker 2: some know your thoughts. 1559 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 13: You know what's interesting, You know, in light of the 1560 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,280 Speaker 13: fact that gambling has become legalized. You know, over the 1561 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 13: last couple of years in many places in the US, 1562 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,920 Speaker 13: and also consider how many scandals there have been in 1563 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 13: recent years since it has been legalized. You know, it's unfortunate 1564 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 13: for Pe Rose, but I've kind of, i think, changed 1565 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 13: my tune on this. You almost have to, you know, 1566 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,720 Speaker 13: stick to it if you're major League Baseball and say like, no, 1567 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,400 Speaker 13: we can't allow you to make it to the Hall 1568 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,719 Speaker 13: of Fame and get back into Major League Baseball, because 1569 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,320 Speaker 13: if we let you in and allow this exception, who's 1570 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,920 Speaker 13: to say if another scandal happens, if we wait another 1571 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,920 Speaker 13: fifty sixty years and allow somebody else to get in. 1572 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 13: If we're going to really take a serious stance against 1573 01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 13: players gambling and the sports that they're participating in, I 1574 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,720 Speaker 13: think you have to take a hard line stance and say, 1575 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,280 Speaker 13: even if you're one of the great players in the 1576 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 13: history of the sport, the fact that you broke one 1577 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,479 Speaker 13: of the cardinal sins, we can't relent. 1578 01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:03,840 Speaker 1: We got to be able to keep you out. 1579 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,200 Speaker 13: And if we can keep pe Rolls out, we can 1580 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 13: keep anybody else out of any other sort of Hall 1581 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 13: of Fame or any other involvement with another major sport. 1582 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 13: So I think because gambling has been legalized, you almost 1583 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:14,960 Speaker 13: have to reverse course if you are in favor of 1584 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,679 Speaker 13: it and say no, well, yeah, we have to stick 1585 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:17,599 Speaker 13: to it and keep him out. 1586 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,599 Speaker 2: I think that's a very fair and a very coaching point, 1587 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 2: especially the part about just because gambling is legal doesn't 1588 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,680 Speaker 2: mean we can open the doors for players, and you 1589 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 2: can't unring the bell right and Pete, I think had 1590 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,559 Speaker 2: opportunities back in nineteen eighty nine, I can tell you 1591 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 2: from my knowledge of the situation. Although Pete did have 1592 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,559 Speaker 2: a come up in two thousand and four. He wrote 1593 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,679 Speaker 2: a book and he's tried a lot, but no one's 1594 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,439 Speaker 2: really going to forget anytime soon. I think the way 1595 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,800 Speaker 2: that he sort of blew off a bar Giamatti, then 1596 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 2: Bart Giamatti died suddenly in Labor Day at a very 1597 01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,640 Speaker 2: young age in nineteen eighty nine. It was there to 1598 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,439 Speaker 2: take over, and they were friends, and I think there 1599 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,800 Speaker 2: was I really believe there was a deathbed wish no, 1600 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,760 Speaker 2: don't let this guy in that was carried on, I 1601 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 2: believe from Faye Vincent onto Bud Ceiling and certainly under 1602 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,160 Speaker 2: Rob Manfred and those guys are all sort of joined 1603 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,799 Speaker 2: at the hip. So bring up a couple of good points, Kevin. 1604 01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 2: That's that's a tough one to defeat, and that kind 1605 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,000 Speaker 2: of answers the fruitful purpose. It might serve that that's 1606 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,400 Speaker 2: a lesson for anybody that if you can, if the 1607 01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,280 Speaker 2: Hitking can be denied, you can too. And we've already 1608 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:33,040 Speaker 2: had two players a band for life. Well one in basketball, 1609 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,160 Speaker 2: of course, but the other major League baseball. All right, 1610 01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:39,759 Speaker 2: let's get to ian Ian first. Look, we've had three 1611 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 2: monumental passings of athletes, two in basketball. And then when 1612 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:50,720 Speaker 2: Willie Mays uh looking ahead, anybody playing now will have 1613 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,719 Speaker 2: the same kind of rev type of reverence fifty years 1614 01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:54,080 Speaker 2: from now. 1615 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:54,599 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1616 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,880 Speaker 18: I've been compiling a little bit of a list here 1617 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,360 Speaker 18: throughout the midnight hour and cross crossing off name as 1618 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,880 Speaker 18: listeners have have said that one name that that was 1619 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,599 Speaker 18: brought up that I will repeat is Steph Curry as 1620 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,320 Speaker 18: a Warriors fan, I like, I completely concur with with 1621 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,639 Speaker 18: the caller who brought his name forward, the way that 1622 01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 18: he's changed the game of basketball. The three pointer is 1623 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 18: bigger than it's ever been, and kids growing up playing basketball, 1624 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 18: all they want to do is just pull up three 1625 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,720 Speaker 18: point shots. And however you may feel about that good 1626 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,280 Speaker 18: or bad. It's it's the fact of the matter is 1627 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,559 Speaker 18: that it's true. And and that's because of Steph Curry 1628 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 18: and he changed. So yeah, definitely Steph Curry. I think 1629 01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,840 Speaker 18: he'll be remembered along with his four championships. You know, 1630 01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,559 Speaker 18: we'll see if he gets any more. But someone else 1631 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,440 Speaker 18: that hasn't been brought up is Aaron Donald. I I 1632 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:48,639 Speaker 18: I think he is in all time NFL player and 1633 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 18: and I I think. 1634 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:54,760 Speaker 2: Anyone transcended part though well transcended part the. 1635 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,280 Speaker 18: Fact that he did what he did and got the 1636 01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 18: production and dominance that he did from the interior of 1637 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 18: the defensive line. Like it's pretty unprecedented. 1638 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,720 Speaker 2: One about pull that thought you're gonna you, we're gonna 1639 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 2: keep going Ian But I almost made this aimn that 1640 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:13,080 Speaker 2: our topic when he retired. He retired, like back in 1641 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 2: around June first. Yeah, but if we're gonna talk about him, 1642 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,759 Speaker 2: how we not talking about Reggie White or Lawrence Taylor 1643 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 2: or Ronnie Lott or Ray Lewis. 1644 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:22,960 Speaker 18: So but I would argue that we do. 1645 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:24,400 Speaker 2: Well, do we? 1646 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:25,080 Speaker 17: Yeah? 1647 01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 18: No, one go ahead, Well, no, they haven't passed away thankfully. Yeah, 1648 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,960 Speaker 18: not knock on Wood obviously, But but I isn't the 1649 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,400 Speaker 18: whole topic that like went once they've passed away an athlete, 1650 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:36,040 Speaker 18: that we're going to roll. 1651 01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, you got me on that one. But 1652 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,400 Speaker 2: as much as I love those guys Reggie White, who 1653 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 2: Dick shapp told me the best story about him, my 1654 01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 2: God when they hung out one day, Lawrence Taylor, Ronnie 1655 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,639 Speaker 2: Lott three, I don't know if we'll be talking about 1656 01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,160 Speaker 2: those guys fifty years from now with the same reverence. 1657 01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,400 Speaker 2: William May has made people cry. Same with Walt, same 1658 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,120 Speaker 2: with West. They're different people, They're just different. 1659 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 18: Go ahead, continue, No, that that is a good point. 1660 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 18: Another NFL player that I that I wanted to bring 1661 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,280 Speaker 18: up his Travis Kelcey, just like I don't know if 1662 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:08,599 Speaker 18: it's the same type of remembrance as like Willie Mays 1663 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,720 Speaker 18: and these guys, but it's it's the fact that like 1664 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,720 Speaker 18: he's currently dating the most popular woman in the world 1665 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,479 Speaker 18: right now, he's he's a complete phenomenon and and he's 1666 01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 18: putting so many new eyes on the NFL. It's it's 1667 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,000 Speaker 18: it's crazy, and it's completely unprecedented. We'll see maybe a 1668 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,559 Speaker 18: year from now it's completely died down. But you know, 1669 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:26,520 Speaker 18: with the recent. 1670 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 2: If they if they three p Saturday night, go. 1671 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 18: Ahead, Yeah, and then another one Jake Paul just again 1672 01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,480 Speaker 18: not remembered in the same way, but he's so polarizing 1673 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,920 Speaker 18: and is bringing so many new eyes to the sport 1674 01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 18: of boxing. I really feel like there's the potential for 1675 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,000 Speaker 18: him to really go down in history and be remembered. 1676 01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,240 Speaker 2: He's a bit of a cult following. All right, good, 1677 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,639 Speaker 2: put some good thought onto that Ian Mark Ramsey, here 1678 01:26:55,680 --> 01:27:01,280 Speaker 2: it comes. I'm waiting for the historical reference mark that 1679 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,679 Speaker 2: you has become your trademark. Let's start though with Pete Rose. 1680 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 2: Would you let him in? Yes or no? 1681 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,960 Speaker 27: When it comes to Pete Rose, k Fig had the 1682 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,439 Speaker 27: same mindset that I'm thinking about. If we waited out, 1683 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 27: then let somebody in. No, you broke the rule, it's 1684 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 27: betting you stay out. It's like for baseball players, genuinely speaking, 1685 01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,200 Speaker 27: the Hall of Fame is like there heaven and you 1686 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,759 Speaker 27: broke a rule, and now you can't go to heaven. 1687 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,040 Speaker 27: I know there are guys that are in the Hall 1688 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,600 Speaker 27: of Fame that have done certain things, but as the 1689 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:39,400 Speaker 27: rules was with that particular commissioner, Pete Rose broke a 1690 01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,000 Speaker 27: rule and now he cannot go in, and we're not 1691 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 27: gonna allow him to wait it out. We're not going 1692 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,760 Speaker 27: to allow anybody to be able to wait out their 1693 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,519 Speaker 27: sentence and be able to sneak in just because of 1694 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,840 Speaker 27: this emotional attachment, because of what he did on the field. No, 1695 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,600 Speaker 27: you broke the rule. No, you cannot get in. 1696 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I accept that, Mark, I'm not I'm not even 1697 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,160 Speaker 2: going to quibble with that. But let's talk about the 1698 01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 2: other part. He's banned from baseball. He could never work 1699 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,719 Speaker 2: for a team. He can't be around the game. Would 1700 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,960 Speaker 2: you perhaps bring down that barrier, allow him to speak 1701 01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 2: at rookie symposiums, allow him to speak at team meetings 1702 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,679 Speaker 2: as to the ills of betting. 1703 01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 27: Yes, he could do that, because. 1704 01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,120 Speaker 2: He's banned from that. Right now, he won't even do that. 1705 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 27: Well, if he's banned from that, maybe he should maybe 1706 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,120 Speaker 27: find something in his heart. Maybe it's not there that 1707 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,519 Speaker 27: he could attempt to give back to baseball because he's 1708 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,840 Speaker 27: been cut off. He hasn't made that attempt. He's spent 1709 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,559 Speaker 27: a long time lying about it and writing in books 1710 01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:43,200 Speaker 27: about it, but he never, in a sense, never came clean. 1711 01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,479 Speaker 27: And then what it was found out, he denied it 1712 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,880 Speaker 27: and denied it, and that made the commissioners and people 1713 01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 27: mad about it. So yes, since he hasn't been able 1714 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,880 Speaker 27: to come clean in a sense and own up to 1715 01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 27: whatever he did, and he hasn't made any step to 1716 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:07,040 Speaker 27: come towards Baseball and do something nice, basically forget him. No, 1717 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,280 Speaker 27: you can't do anything because he hasn't even based on 1718 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,720 Speaker 27: what you're just saying, he hasn't made the attempt on 1719 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,959 Speaker 27: his own to do things for Baseball. 1720 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,639 Speaker 2: There in lies the grudge aspect of this whole ordeal, 1721 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:23,080 Speaker 2: and it very much exists because Pete truly had an opportunity. 1722 01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,040 Speaker 27: He had not any chances. He wrote books about things, 1723 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,920 Speaker 27: but he never in a sense owned up to it 1724 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,000 Speaker 27: and came clean and said yes I did it, Yes 1725 01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,639 Speaker 27: I've been banned, or and then what you're talking about now, 1726 01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,320 Speaker 27: he hasn't made any steps to come towards baseball to 1727 01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,800 Speaker 27: be Baseball is a nice guy, Baseball's ambassador. 1728 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,280 Speaker 2: He has made some steps, it hasn't gotten the broad 1729 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 2: based platform I think he would like. 1730 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,040 Speaker 1: But to your point, he's Pete Rose. 1731 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:53,719 Speaker 2: He could do just about anything. 1732 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,040 Speaker 27: He can walk up to Baseball and say, hey, I 1733 01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,160 Speaker 27: want to do something. Well, are they going to turn 1734 01:29:58,200 --> 01:29:58,639 Speaker 27: that down. 1735 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they much. 1736 01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,000 Speaker 27: They show people how to hit a ball, but he 1737 01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,960 Speaker 27: hasn't gone towards baseball. They try to teach people. 1738 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,000 Speaker 2: To Rob Manfred won't even take his call. I mean, 1739 01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,879 Speaker 2: it's it's pretty it's pretty dramatic. But to your listen, 1740 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,519 Speaker 2: the one theme here that you guys have brought forward 1741 01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,360 Speaker 2: that's undeniable is he made his own bed. Yep, he 1742 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,879 Speaker 2: made his own bed. And this is a serious business. 1743 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:24,679 Speaker 2: Shortly after the show tonight, our podcast will be going up. 1744 01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,479 Speaker 2: If you missed any of tonight'show be sure to check 1745 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:31,040 Speaker 2: out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 1746 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. Be sure to follow, rate and review 1747 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,000 Speaker 2: the podcast. Again, he will take care of all that. 1748 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,840 Speaker 2: He'll put the show up tonight. Just search Fox Sports 1749 01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,920 Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll see the show 1750 01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air. Well, the 1751 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,800 Speaker 2: NBA Finals are in the books. Boston's got their nineteenth championship. 1752 01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:53,080 Speaker 2: It's their nineteenth. Might it be their sweetest? Well, why 1753 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 2: would I say that? I'll explain. And also, yeah, it 1754 01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:57,880 Speaker 2: was kind of boring, but it was a little bit 1755 01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 2: more meaningful than you think. I got some receipts. I'm 1756 01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,120 Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle. Where you are comedy live from the Las 1757 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:06,599 Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio tarrac dot com studios. Keep it 1758 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,840 Speaker 2: locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show 1759 01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:12,439 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Oh we're back on the Bernie 1760 01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 2: Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio, coming to you live from 1761 01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:22,519 Speaker 2: the tarrat dot com studios here in Las Vegas. Shortly 1762 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,880 Speaker 2: after the show, our podcast will be going up. If 1763 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,880 Speaker 2: you missed any of tonight's show, be sure to check 1764 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:33,160 Speaker 2: out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 1765 01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,240 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. Be sure to also follow, rate and 1766 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:40,360 Speaker 2: review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever 1767 01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,880 Speaker 2: you get your podcast You see the show posted right 1768 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,800 Speaker 2: after we get off the air man he and Roddy 1769 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,479 Speaker 2: will be taking care of all of that, all right. 1770 01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,120 Speaker 2: The NBA Finals were a bit of a blur. I 1771 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,679 Speaker 2: never once believe there would be a series just because 1772 01:31:55,760 --> 01:32:00,639 Speaker 2: Dallas won Game four. The Boston Celtics were the best team, 1773 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,519 Speaker 2: and they proved it, and they were on a bit 1774 01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 2: of a mission, and they won in convincing fashion. It 1775 01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:11,519 Speaker 2: was not entertaining. There was no high drama basketball. Frankly, 1776 01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,680 Speaker 2: it was a big letdown. It was a bore. I'm 1777 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,640 Speaker 2: sure the TV ratings are going to reflect that, but 1778 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,679 Speaker 2: that doesn't change the fact that Boston deserves their flowers. 1779 01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:27,120 Speaker 2: It's their nineteenth championship, which is the most all time 1780 01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,559 Speaker 2: for any NBA franchise. They were tied with the Lakers 1781 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,280 Speaker 2: at eighteen Boston Now polls they had in the lead. 1782 01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,760 Speaker 2: They had once sin so eight and before that they 1783 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:39,519 Speaker 2: had one since what eighty six, so basically before last week, 1784 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:45,040 Speaker 2: won championship in thirty eight years. On the surface, it 1785 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:49,559 Speaker 2: was a boring result. Boston entered the season as a 1786 01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,280 Speaker 2: title favorite, then they won the most games in the 1787 01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:56,599 Speaker 2: regular season, and then they win the rings. Good night, goodbye, 1788 01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:02,360 Speaker 2: nothing else to see here, move along, right, However, this 1789 01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:07,040 Speaker 2: was meaningful to the folks who cheer on the Celtics, 1790 01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,360 Speaker 2: and you got to give them their props. You say, 1791 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,960 Speaker 2: how well, I'll give you a few reasons why I 1792 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:17,760 Speaker 2: say that. One, there should be some lasting effects for 1793 01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,479 Speaker 2: people who have created narratives around this team, all right. 1794 01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:26,439 Speaker 2: For instance, you can't dog the pairing of Jason Tatum 1795 01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,280 Speaker 2: and Jalen Brown anymore. You can't say that pairing doesn't work. 1796 01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,559 Speaker 2: They made the NBA finals two years ago, but they 1797 01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:37,200 Speaker 2: were still whispers. They weren't getting their love. They weren't, 1798 01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:41,400 Speaker 2: you know, they weren't. Now Jalen Brown, who had been 1799 01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,080 Speaker 2: kind of sort of the odd man out in those conversations, 1800 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,840 Speaker 2: not only when's this first finals to finals MVP Okay? 1801 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,439 Speaker 2: That puts you in pretty rarefy there. And in this 1802 01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:58,720 Speaker 2: age of player movement and free agency and player empowerment, 1803 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:02,200 Speaker 2: where you walk? I mean, look at Kyrie Okay talked 1804 01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,760 Speaker 2: this way out of about four places. But in this 1805 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:09,720 Speaker 2: age of player movement, the Celtics they stuck with their 1806 01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:14,519 Speaker 2: homegrown talent. That's meaningful. These are two guys they both 1807 01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:19,160 Speaker 2: drafted them as the number three overall pick back in 1808 01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:24,120 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen. They stuck with it and 1809 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:28,400 Speaker 2: it worked. It worked. That I think is meaningful, especially 1810 01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:32,800 Speaker 2: in this day and age of transient players. Give it 1811 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:37,200 Speaker 2: up to Joe Missoula. I you know, after what happened 1812 01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,040 Speaker 2: with the prior coach and that was not a good look. 1813 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,000 Speaker 2: And you know, the Celtics had just been to the 1814 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:47,120 Speaker 2: NBA Finals. A young guy that barely anybody had ever 1815 01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,960 Speaker 2: heard of, steps in. He takes over as the interim 1816 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,840 Speaker 2: head coach just a couple of days after the twenty 1817 01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 2: twenty three season began. The twenty two to twenty three 1818 01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:01,280 Speaker 2: season began after the team suspended Emiadka. He'd been fired 1819 01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:05,360 Speaker 2: yet Adoka, who led the Celtics to that twenty twenty 1820 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 2: two Finals appearance, and in two seasons now oh nothing, 1821 01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:15,559 Speaker 2: Joe Missoula has won one hundred and twenty one regular 1822 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,680 Speaker 2: season games. It's averaging sixty a season. Pretty good with 1823 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,759 Speaker 2: the man there, huh? All right? In his first season 1824 01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,759 Speaker 2: after removing the interim tag, Joe Missoula wins the title. 1825 01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,200 Speaker 2: Now coming up at the bottom of the hour, I'm 1826 01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:31,040 Speaker 2: gonna give Joe Mizzoula his flowers because I give it up. 1827 01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 2: I think this is also meaningful. The Celtics made a 1828 01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:40,200 Speaker 2: choice to stick by Joe Missoula last year, and I 1829 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,240 Speaker 2: think there are very I think there are very prevalent 1830 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:47,920 Speaker 2: leadership lessons to be learned from this by not only 1831 01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:53,799 Speaker 2: the Celtics stuck with Missoula, but how Joe Missoula really 1832 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,280 Speaker 2: managed that squad. I was really impressed as the season 1833 01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:00,280 Speaker 2: went on. Remember you've already forgotten in Game three three 1834 01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:04,799 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty threes NBA Eastern Conference Finals. The Miami 1835 01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:08,439 Speaker 2: Heat ran a seemingly, you know, Boston looked like a moribund, 1836 01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,479 Speaker 2: lifeless team. They ran him completely off the court, won 1837 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,280 Speaker 2: twenty eight one oh two. And they, believe me, the 1838 01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:17,280 Speaker 2: cat calls for Joe Missoula and saying they should fire him. 1839 01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:21,719 Speaker 2: It became it became pouring. They were pouring in. Okay, 1840 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:27,920 Speaker 2: Joe Missoula got revenge and I'll well, maybe not revenge, 1841 01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,880 Speaker 2: but he got his He got his comeuppets, and I'll 1842 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,519 Speaker 2: share with that in a minute. So get you know, 1843 01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:38,360 Speaker 2: Joe Missoula was not only successful, he was successful under duress. 1844 01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,000 Speaker 2: You've already forgotten. He took over that team, the Celtics 1845 01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:46,400 Speaker 2: in a very odd ball, unique situation with Emi Udoka, 1846 01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,639 Speaker 2: all kinds of pressure, big time pressure cooker, especially there 1847 01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,679 Speaker 2: in Boston, and he wins basically, you know, one hundred 1848 01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,040 Speaker 2: and twenty one games in two years, and now he's 1849 01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,080 Speaker 2: won a title. And last year he was kind of 1850 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,360 Speaker 2: the interim tag. This year, for the first full year, 1851 01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,559 Speaker 2: no interim tag wins the title and it's Boston they 1852 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,400 Speaker 2: were expected to. I mean, really, there's almost more relief 1853 01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:08,960 Speaker 2: than happiness. But you know where I'm going with that. 1854 01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,439 Speaker 2: I know there will also be people saying, well, Boston 1855 01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,800 Speaker 2: didn't really have to face a worthy opponent in the 1856 01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:21,799 Speaker 2: NBA playoffs, But if you just look at the numbers 1857 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,160 Speaker 2: and if you look at the accomplishments and the records, 1858 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:29,519 Speaker 2: they have to go down, at least in a paper 1859 01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,000 Speaker 2: because of what they did as one of the best 1860 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,559 Speaker 2: teams in NBA history. It doesn't feel that way. I mean, 1861 01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,200 Speaker 2: they don't look anywhere nearly as entertaining as the nineteen 1862 01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:43,200 Speaker 2: eighty six Celtics did. That team, the way they passed 1863 01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:47,720 Speaker 2: the ball, their flair, their panache, the way they ran 1864 01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,800 Speaker 2: rough shot through the league. That team had five Hall 1865 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,040 Speaker 2: of Famers, arguably maybe never a better team in history. 1866 01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:56,559 Speaker 2: But the Celtics, now, this current team and the NBA 1867 01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,720 Speaker 2: is different. Now, it's a water down version, you know that. 1868 01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it's three point er and one on one basketball. 1869 01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,920 Speaker 2: But the Celtics look played by the same rules as 1870 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:08,719 Speaker 2: everybody else. And there have been only thirteen other teams 1871 01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:13,280 Speaker 2: in NBA history that wont to combined eighty games in 1872 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:19,160 Speaker 2: a single season. Boston the Celtics, including the sixteen games 1873 01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,760 Speaker 2: they won on the playoffs, won eighty basketball games this year. 1874 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,200 Speaker 2: It's only be done thirteen times in history. Here's the kicker. 1875 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:29,799 Speaker 2: Not all of those thirteen teams finished with titles, including 1876 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,800 Speaker 2: Golden State. They didn't finish with the title the year 1877 01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:37,320 Speaker 2: they won eighty games. What makes this also meaningful again 1878 01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:40,720 Speaker 2: is I just said a minute ago. Boston, which not 1879 01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:47,760 Speaker 2: only now holds the most championships in NBA history, they're 1880 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:51,760 Speaker 2: a very storied franchise. They only hit eighty wins two 1881 01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,680 Speaker 2: other times in their entire franchise, with all the Hall 1882 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,559 Speaker 2: of famers they had. You know, Boston not only won 1883 01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,679 Speaker 2: the championship, they pretty much as I got. Kevin Figures 1884 01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,240 Speaker 2: would say, Molly whopped everybody in their path. Don't believe me. 1885 01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,280 Speaker 2: Go back and look at the scores. That gets you banners, 1886 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:11,759 Speaker 2: that gets you respect. It's meaningful. It's meaningful to those folks. 1887 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,120 Speaker 2: Maybe not to you and me. Maybe it was boring 1888 01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,320 Speaker 2: to watch, but when you add it all up. Jason Tatum, 1889 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:21,439 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, Joe Missoula, the stressful situation he took over Boston. 1890 01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,920 Speaker 2: Eighty games. They're expected to win. You heard the cat calls, 1891 01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:26,840 Speaker 2: had people tweeting them me, They're not going to be 1892 01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,799 Speaker 2: Dallas around a heater. I'll be careful with that one. 1893 01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,160 Speaker 2: I didn't know that I necessarily trusted the Celtics, but 1894 01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,880 Speaker 2: you know what, be careful with that one. I think 1895 01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:35,800 Speaker 2: the Celtics proved you can certainly trust them. We'll see 1896 01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:37,000 Speaker 2: what they do next year. I don't want to hear 1897 01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,840 Speaker 2: about dynasty and all that kind of stuff. Game five 1898 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,680 Speaker 2: kind of boring, one oh six eighty eight win. I 1899 01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:45,839 Speaker 2: said last week. I said, look, we don't have a series. 1900 01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:51,599 Speaker 2: Stop it just because Dallas won Game four. If they 1901 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,280 Speaker 2: go to Boston, if he go to Boston and win, 1902 01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,880 Speaker 2: and if they go back to Dallas to win, we'll 1903 01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,559 Speaker 2: talk about a Game seven hydrama basketball. But we're nowhere 1904 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,840 Speaker 2: near that. I said it last Friday night the same chair. 1905 01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,679 Speaker 2: I said, you got a better chance of Gilligan's Island 1906 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:08,759 Speaker 2: re recording. You get a better chance of Led Zeppelin 1907 01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:10,840 Speaker 2: re recording the Gilligan's Island theme song and sell them 1908 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:15,160 Speaker 2: maning copies. Didn't happen. Boston took care of business. I 1909 01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:19,120 Speaker 2: said that they would, you know, they would handle Dallas, 1910 01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,800 Speaker 2: you know they would. They'd ride him like a stick horse. 1911 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,080 Speaker 2: And they did. Tatum thirty one points Jalen Brown had 1912 01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:28,679 Speaker 2: twenty one. And what was really noteworthy that Boston defense. 1913 01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,800 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah, they may have allowed twenty eight 1914 01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,120 Speaker 2: points to do Luca, but they shut out the rest 1915 01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:38,080 Speaker 2: of the team. Kyrie Irving obviously his trips to Boston, 1916 01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,559 Speaker 2: they were in his head, man, they were in his head. 1917 01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,080 Speaker 2: He had just fifteen points. So give it up to 1918 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,880 Speaker 2: the Celtics defense. Their commitment to defense was superb. In 1919 01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,200 Speaker 2: the end, Boston was just simply the better team they were. 1920 01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:56,120 Speaker 2: And I want to make sure I emphasized this point. Yes, 1921 01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:01,320 Speaker 2: the quote unquote dynamic duo, how much creativity did people 1922 01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,760 Speaker 2: come up with that? We're not talking Batman and Robin Well, 1923 01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,200 Speaker 2: We're talking Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown. Yes, they were huge, 1924 01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,519 Speaker 2: they were kind of the heart and soul, but they 1925 01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:16,000 Speaker 2: weren't the only guys on the team. Okay, stars might 1926 01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:17,640 Speaker 2: win you one game, but a team might win them all. 1927 01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:22,160 Speaker 2: How about Al Horford. Al Horford, a very respected elder 1928 01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:25,880 Speaker 2: statesman in the National Basketball Association gets his first ring 1929 01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,400 Speaker 2: in seventeen NBA seasons. How about Drew Holiday. Give it 1930 01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:33,160 Speaker 2: up to Drew Holiday, a two time NBA champion, He 1931 01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:37,559 Speaker 2: won his second one after Milwaukee decided they needed Damian 1932 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:41,240 Speaker 2: Lillard more than him. Who gets the last laugh, Drew Holliday. 1933 01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,559 Speaker 2: You tell me if that's not meaningful. How about Derek 1934 01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:48,920 Speaker 2: White not only chipped into wins, he chipped the tooth 1935 01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,720 Speaker 2: It was worth it. Maybe he's a hockey player. How 1936 01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,800 Speaker 2: about Peyton Pritchard, kind of a fan favorite, gets a 1937 01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,080 Speaker 2: halftime buzzer. People are going to remember that one forever 1938 01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,320 Speaker 2: because it was part of a championship closing thoughts. In 1939 01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:07,080 Speaker 2: the end, Boston shook off that bad Game four lost 1940 01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:09,280 Speaker 2: in Dallas. They took the series on their home floor 1941 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,400 Speaker 2: one by eighteen. They put a bowl on a tremendous season, 1942 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,720 Speaker 2: sixty four and eighteen in the regular season, sixty to 1943 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,760 Speaker 2: three in the playoffs. It's still the playoffs. The resounding 1944 01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:26,120 Speaker 2: lesson of Boston's championship, I believe is this, and I 1945 01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,880 Speaker 2: will tell you coming up. But first let's go back 1946 01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 2: to our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest. 1947 01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:31,920 Speaker 1: All right vernion. 1948 01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,160 Speaker 13: For the first time since nineteen forty five, a team 1949 01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:36,639 Speaker 13: has forced a Game seven in the Stanley Cup Finals. 1950 01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:40,040 Speaker 13: After falling behind three games to none, the Oilers got 1951 01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:41,639 Speaker 13: out to a three to nothing lead in the second 1952 01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:43,920 Speaker 13: period and never looked back. They pick up a five 1953 01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,600 Speaker 13: to one victory over the Panthers. Game seven will be 1954 01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,120 Speaker 13: Monday night in Florida, as the Panthers look to avoid 1955 01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,599 Speaker 13: being the first team in over eighty years to lose 1956 01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,240 Speaker 13: the Stanley Cup Finals after getting out to a three 1957 01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,160 Speaker 13: to nothing series lead. In Major League Baseball, the Dodgers 1958 01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,000 Speaker 13: blew a two nothing lead to the Angels, who picked 1959 01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,839 Speaker 13: up a three to two victory extra innings. Shay Langueleer's 1960 01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:03,519 Speaker 13: with the go ahead home run in the eighth inning, 1961 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,519 Speaker 13: leading Oakland over Minnesota six to five. It was a 1962 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,240 Speaker 13: Padres nine and the Brewers five five hits there for 1963 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,320 Speaker 13: Jay Croninworth. Houston had a fourteen to three lead through 1964 01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,639 Speaker 13: six innings and had to hold on for a fourteen 1965 01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,800 Speaker 13: to eleven victory over Baltimore. Atlanta got home runs from 1966 01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,960 Speaker 13: Austin Riley, Ozzy Albi's and Matt Olsen in an eight 1967 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,400 Speaker 13: to one victory over Corlos. Verdon and the Yankees were 1968 01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:26,080 Speaker 13: don lasting just three innings and allowed all eight runs. 1969 01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,719 Speaker 13: Victories for Detroit, Arizona and Cleveland, who scored all seven 1970 01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:31,679 Speaker 13: of their runs in the second inning as they defeated 1971 01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,880 Speaker 13: Toronto seven to one, and the WNBA Indiana won its 1972 01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,880 Speaker 13: fourth straight as they defeated Atlanta ninety one to seventy nine. 1973 01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:41,760 Speaker 13: Caitlin Clarke with sixteen points and seven assists. Back to 1974 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:42,360 Speaker 13: Bernie Frido. 1975 01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:47,240 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, Kevin, appreciate it, Bud. All Right, what is 1976 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:51,280 Speaker 2: what do I believe is the biggest lesson from the 1977 01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:55,799 Speaker 2: Celtics championship? I think the NBA now is officially beyond 1978 01:43:56,040 --> 01:44:00,160 Speaker 2: past the super team era. Right. Why do I say that? Well, 1979 01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:09,599 Speaker 2: the NBA has now seen six straight champions six straight seasons. Okay, 1980 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,800 Speaker 2: the last four title winners, the twenty one Bucks, the 1981 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,120 Speaker 2: twenty two Goal State Warriors, the twenty three Ducats and 1982 01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:19,960 Speaker 2: twenty four Celtics, they were all built with their homegrowing stars. 1983 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,520 Speaker 2: Think about it. They didn't try to stack a superteam. 1984 01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:29,479 Speaker 2: We're talking Giannis, We're talking Steph, We're talking Jokic, We're 1985 01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:35,160 Speaker 2: talking Tatum and and Brown. Now, Boston, I realize is 1986 01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:39,599 Speaker 2: no stranger to the superteam phenomenon. They twenty eighteen came 1987 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,680 Speaker 2: after they got Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. That's at 1988 01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:45,920 Speaker 2: the stage for a full decade. And when you had 1989 01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:49,559 Speaker 2: you saw Lebron James jump teams three times. You saw 1990 01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:53,640 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant leave the Oklahoma City Thunder for the Warriors. Meanwhile, 1991 01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,120 Speaker 2: as I said, you go back seven years, eight years, 1992 01:44:56,600 --> 01:45:00,320 Speaker 2: the Celtics drafted and developed two superstars, Jason Tatum and 1993 01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:05,080 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown. Now we also saw some breakout years from 1994 01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:08,840 Speaker 2: for teams that had the homegrown stars like the Timberwolves 1995 01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,680 Speaker 2: and Thunder, and in course you had the Lakers and 1996 01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:14,360 Speaker 2: Clippers and Phoenix. They were built to compete in the 1997 01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:18,000 Speaker 2: short term, but they fell short of expectations. So listen, 1998 01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,519 Speaker 2: the NBA is a star driven league. You're gonna see 1999 01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,400 Speaker 2: teams pursue deals with stars, and stars want to go 2000 01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,439 Speaker 2: to high profile franchises. But if we go back just 2001 01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,320 Speaker 2: the last five six years, I think what the Celtics 2002 01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:33,040 Speaker 2: did is put a caper on the fact that if 2003 01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:36,639 Speaker 2: you got great players paired with the elite front office, 2004 01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:41,040 Speaker 2: stay home, continue to build your brand, and you're gonna win. 2005 01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:43,640 Speaker 2: I think one of the most meaningful things of the 2006 01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,439 Speaker 2: Celtics championship is the fact they prove that's true. Now, 2007 01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,559 Speaker 2: I want to give Joe Missoula's flowers, Okay, because I 2008 01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:53,600 Speaker 2: mentioned he took over the team in a rough situation. 2009 01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:58,200 Speaker 2: I believe the Boston Globe reported after they lost that 2010 01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,599 Speaker 2: game to Miami two years ago last year one twenty eight, 2011 01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:06,160 Speaker 2: one oh two, I believe the Boston blow reported that quote, 2012 01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,160 Speaker 2: the Celtics need to move on from Joe Miszoula, and 2013 01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:09,400 Speaker 2: they had a lot of support. A lot of people 2014 01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:13,160 Speaker 2: felt that way. But one year and three weeks later 2015 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:16,200 Speaker 2: after that Miami loss, Boston beat Dallas one O six's 2016 01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:20,599 Speaker 2: eighty eight to win their NBA title. All right, now, 2017 01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:22,439 Speaker 2: I think you gotta give Brad Steve's a lot of 2018 01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:25,360 Speaker 2: credit to because he chose to stick by Joe Missoula. 2019 01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,439 Speaker 2: He got a ton of criticism, he got a ton 2020 01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:32,639 Speaker 2: of blowback last season, and uh, I think it leads 2021 01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:36,840 Speaker 2: to three very important leadership lessons. And we need more 2022 01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 2: leadership in sports, and I think we have it in 2023 01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:43,519 Speaker 2: that Celtics franchise. One, Sometimes you got to be patient. Yeah, 2024 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:47,160 Speaker 2: that sounds like a real platitude. But if you've got personnel, 2025 01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,880 Speaker 2: if you've got people that can do the job rather 2026 01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:54,200 Speaker 2: than break it down a retool every few years. Uh, 2027 01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,439 Speaker 2: you know, the tortoise and the hair. It's not just 2028 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:03,800 Speaker 2: in business. It's in sports. Everybody craves instant success. Everybody 2029 01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,240 Speaker 2: wants to be ahead of the competition. Everybody wants to 2030 01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:08,599 Speaker 2: cut corners if they're able to, or jump the line 2031 01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:13,559 Speaker 2: if they're able to. But when you are hasty to 2032 01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 2: obtain the desired results, I think you cheat the grind 2033 01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,800 Speaker 2: and you overlook what really builds championships when you are 2034 01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:27,240 Speaker 2: able to overcome that struggle. And in life, it's not 2035 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,519 Speaker 2: what happens, it's how you react. Life's ten percent of 2036 01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,200 Speaker 2: what happens. In ninety percent of how you react, it 2037 01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:35,000 Speaker 2: becomes a very meaningful pursuit. And when you saw the 2038 01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,920 Speaker 2: Celtics pulling on the same end of the rope with 2039 01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,800 Speaker 2: the entire franchise for two full years, you know in 2040 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:46,840 Speaker 2: the end they got their just do it's actually by rights. 2041 01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:50,000 Speaker 2: I think it's poetic justice at the Boston Celtics, by 2042 01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:54,160 Speaker 2: the way they've managed that franchise got their championship. I 2043 01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:57,440 Speaker 2: think it's very crucial when you go through periods of frustration, 2044 01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:01,800 Speaker 2: you capitulate the impulse. What the Lakers do? You know? 2045 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't. I'll be fascinated to see if the JJ 2046 01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,240 Speaker 2: Redick thing works. But let's not talk about that right now. 2047 01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,559 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about that more Saturday night. You go 2048 01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:12,360 Speaker 2: to impulse, you go to public opinion. But if you 2049 01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:16,479 Speaker 2: just step back, and I know this sounds easier to 2050 01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:19,880 Speaker 2: do than it is, you take a more broad based, 2051 01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:24,320 Speaker 2: you know, global perspective. You take a strategic assessment of 2052 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:28,040 Speaker 2: where you are as an organization, and you say to yourself, 2053 01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:32,200 Speaker 2: we give up on this person today. It may be 2054 01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,600 Speaker 2: too soon. We've come this far. Let's stay invested. It 2055 01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:39,439 Speaker 2: may be a pivotal point in terms of your future success. 2056 01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,880 Speaker 2: Clearly that was the case with both Jalen Brown and 2057 01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:47,400 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum. Give it up and it's stuck with Joe Miszula. 2058 01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:53,240 Speaker 2: So patience, patience with your personnel. I think another leadership 2059 01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:56,640 Speaker 2: lesson is every great leader at some point has a 2060 01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:59,800 Speaker 2: very down moment. They're gonna look lesser than at some 2061 01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:03,280 Speaker 2: point point. It's inevitable. You know, many many years ago, 2062 01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:04,840 Speaker 2: I don't know this had ever happened. Now you got 2063 01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:06,880 Speaker 2: to go clear back to nineteen eighty one or eighty two. 2064 01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:10,120 Speaker 2: Mike Kryzewski was nine games under five hundred his first 2065 01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:13,840 Speaker 2: three seasons at Duke thirty eight and forty seven. They'd 2066 01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:15,479 Speaker 2: have thrown him in the trash in this day and age, 2067 01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:18,000 Speaker 2: and this day and age of you know Michael Wave, 2068 01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:23,080 Speaker 2: ovens and cell phones and instant gratification. Nick Saban in 2069 01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:25,160 Speaker 2: his first four years of Michigan State just two games 2070 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:29,599 Speaker 2: over five hundred. You focus on successful coaches and leaders, 2071 01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:34,040 Speaker 2: but you never really go back and look at the 2072 01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:38,840 Speaker 2: struggle and the process. Everything is a process orient endeavor. 2073 01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:41,439 Speaker 2: John wouldn't do it. Nick Saban knows it. Augie gurrido't 2074 01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:44,400 Speaker 2: know it. In Bay all the great coaches understand. You 2075 01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,520 Speaker 2: don't focus on the scoreboard. The scoreboard is a byproduct 2076 01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,800 Speaker 2: of the process. Any coach and any business leader whoever 2077 01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:54,920 Speaker 2: accomplished anything meaningful has blemishes, and they have speed bumps, 2078 01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:59,160 Speaker 2: and they have setbacks and rejection and temporary failure, never 2079 01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,719 Speaker 2: final though. It's not what happens, it's how you react. 2080 01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,639 Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is what's relevance, what's 2081 01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:09,120 Speaker 2: excuse me? What's relevant the fact that when these leaders stumble, 2082 01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:13,840 Speaker 2: do they have the fortitude and the emotional intelligence to 2083 01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,880 Speaker 2: recover from it? And do their bosses recognize that? So 2084 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,519 Speaker 2: number one, patience Number two, every leader is going to 2085 01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,679 Speaker 2: look bad at some point Joe Missoula sure did. Last 2086 01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:27,040 Speaker 2: year they were calling for his job finally, believe it 2087 01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:31,080 Speaker 2: or not. Not only do players improve if they're allowed 2088 01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:36,960 Speaker 2: and you have a foster and environment that encourages development, 2089 01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:42,639 Speaker 2: but coaches improve, management improves. Joe Missoula took over two 2090 01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:47,519 Speaker 2: years ago under incredibly extenuating circumstances. You suspend coach Emy 2091 01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,760 Speaker 2: and Dooka, who had just been to the Finals a 2092 01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,840 Speaker 2: year before, days before the start of training camp, right 2093 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:57,000 Speaker 2: before the start on real timing, youngest head coach in 2094 01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:00,759 Speaker 2: the NBA, very little experience. So you talk about player development, 2095 01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:06,280 Speaker 2: you talk about growing your assets, your players and your employees. 2096 01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:12,040 Speaker 2: Rarely do you talk about growing your coaches, growing your leaders. 2097 01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:15,760 Speaker 2: They can get better with reps as well, they can 2098 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,880 Speaker 2: get better with time as well. The truth of the 2099 01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,479 Speaker 2: matter is, if you saw fit to hire this person, 2100 01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:26,640 Speaker 2: try to create the environment where who they are tomorrow 2101 01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:28,920 Speaker 2: is better than who they are today. Boston did that, 2102 01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:32,479 Speaker 2: Brad Stevens did that with Joe Miszula, even though he 2103 01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:36,760 Speaker 2: had a serious down moment, and we know it. I 2104 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,760 Speaker 2: think probably the most meaningful thing, and the reason I 2105 01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,800 Speaker 2: said this earlier in the show, is there were just 2106 01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:46,800 Speaker 2: a few seconds left on the clock Monday night, Joe 2107 01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:51,559 Speaker 2: Missoula and Jason Tatum had an embrace probably lost on 2108 01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:53,200 Speaker 2: a lot of people. It's not exactly like the Jimmy 2109 01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:56,559 Speaker 2: Valvano running around looking for his dad back in nineteen 2110 01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:58,800 Speaker 2: eighty three when they beat Fas s Lama. Jama wasn't 2111 01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,720 Speaker 2: like that. But they shared a very powerful hog on 2112 01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:03,479 Speaker 2: the sideline, and there were almost twenty thousand people in 2113 01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,680 Speaker 2: Boston that were cheering it. They knew, they got it, 2114 01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:11,240 Speaker 2: they understood all right. That was only made possible because 2115 01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:18,920 Speaker 2: cooler had prevailed the other noise. Brad Stevens tuned out certainly. 2116 01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:21,599 Speaker 2: Joe Miszula, I believe turned it out pretty good, dude. 2117 01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:23,880 Speaker 2: He's really won me over. And I don't know if 2118 01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,559 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown tuned it out. They opened 2119 01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:29,240 Speaker 2: their mouth a few times, but when it mattered on 2120 01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:32,720 Speaker 2: the floor, they turned it out, tuned it out. So 2121 01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,720 Speaker 2: when you recognize the fact that the vast majority of 2122 01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:40,840 Speaker 2: people a year ago wanted Joe Missoula fired, you have 2123 01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,520 Speaker 2: to also acknounce the fact that he was very capable. 2124 01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:47,200 Speaker 2: He helped, He was a key cock in getting that championship. 2125 01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:49,439 Speaker 2: Even though at some point it was in as fine 2126 01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:52,880 Speaker 2: as moment, but they were patient with Joe Missoula, and 2127 01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:57,599 Speaker 2: Joe Miszula was patient with his personnel. Coming up, we 2128 01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:03,960 Speaker 2: wrap up the show, and I don't know, man, maybe 2129 01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:06,559 Speaker 2: the Dodgers have some magic dusts when you consider what 2130 01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,920 Speaker 2: they did in Colorado the other night. I will share 2131 01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:13,479 Speaker 2: that coming up and we'll preview Saturday show. I'm Bernie Frattle. 2132 01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:15,559 Speaker 2: We are Company live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports 2133 01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,800 Speaker 2: Radio tiract dot com studios. Keep it locked, you're listening 2134 01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:21,280 Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fraddle Show, a Fox Sports Radio. All right, 2135 01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,000 Speaker 2: we are wrapping it up on the Bernie Fraddle Show, 2136 01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,800 Speaker 2: Company live from the Tirack dot Com studios here in 2137 01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:29,080 Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Before I go any further, I want to 2138 01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,680 Speaker 2: thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles. They've been 2139 01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:36,680 Speaker 2: with me since eleven PM Pacific tonight. Of course, Mark 2140 01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,519 Speaker 2: Ramsey are technical producer, turning all the dials, keeping us 2141 01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:45,200 Speaker 2: glued together. Kevin Figures on all the updates, and Ian Roddy, 2142 01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,439 Speaker 2: our executive producer, did a great job maiming the phones. 2143 01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:52,759 Speaker 2: Another rock as midnight hour. We took twenty one calls 2144 01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:56,759 Speaker 2: tonight on the Pete Rose situation as well as well. 2145 01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,240 Speaker 2: You know, we just we just waved goodbye to three 2146 01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:06,040 Speaker 2: epic legend Willie Mays, Bill Walton, Jerry West. They haven't 2147 01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:08,920 Speaker 2: played a game in thirty eight years, fifty years, and 2148 01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:13,599 Speaker 2: fifty one years, respectively, but they're transcendent, they're iconic. They 2149 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:16,240 Speaker 2: arose emotion. The reverence is there, the respect is there. 2150 01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:20,200 Speaker 2: The highest team still resonates. Who in today's sports climate 2151 01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:24,080 Speaker 2: that is still active might engender that same type of 2152 01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:28,920 Speaker 2: reverence fifty years from now. I don't know. We had 2153 01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:31,559 Speaker 2: some good names, some good stuff. It was an excellent 2154 01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:35,200 Speaker 2: segment and you can hear the podcast to you. I'll 2155 01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:39,040 Speaker 2: have that here posted probably within an hour or two. 2156 01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:43,240 Speaker 2: All Right, this is an interesting sports here, and I'm 2157 01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,280 Speaker 2: starting to wonder even though Mookie Betts got hurt and 2158 01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:47,960 Speaker 2: I don't think you see him back for eight weeks, 2159 01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:52,600 Speaker 2: and I'm starting to wonder if the Dodgers might have 2160 01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:56,720 Speaker 2: some magic dust. The other night they beat the Rockies, 2161 01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:58,840 Speaker 2: they were down nine to four in the ninth inning. 2162 01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,200 Speaker 2: They end up winning eleven to nine in regulation. The 2163 01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:05,560 Speaker 2: last time the Dodgers were down by five runs in 2164 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,840 Speaker 2: the ninth inning and won the game without going into 2165 01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:16,480 Speaker 2: extra innings was July twelfth, nineteen twenty nine. That's a 2166 01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:20,680 Speaker 2: that's a minute or so ago. Okay, it was against 2167 01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,840 Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Now, that's ninety four years and eleven months ago, 2168 01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:28,120 Speaker 2: down by five in the ninth inning and still managed 2169 01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:31,400 Speaker 2: to win without going extras. Well, since nineteen oh three, 2170 01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:35,200 Speaker 2: how many times has a team been down by five 2171 01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:40,560 Speaker 2: and the ninth inning? Eight hundred and twenty two times, 2172 01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:46,839 Speaker 2: all but thirty one ineded losteven ninety one in and loss. 2173 01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,280 Speaker 2: So out of eight hundred and twenty two games, thirty 2174 01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:54,160 Speaker 2: one were comeback wins. Now it's thirty two? All right? 2175 01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,920 Speaker 2: Where am I going with this? Why do the Dodgers 2176 01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:02,760 Speaker 2: have magic? Thus? Well, it took some things to happen 2177 01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:06,080 Speaker 2: to set the damn thing up. There was a very 2178 01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:12,320 Speaker 2: controversial call. Taoscar Hernandez was at the plate. If you're 2179 01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:16,800 Speaker 2: scoring at home the umpire behind home plate, I don't 2180 01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,000 Speaker 2: know how robots are going to get this fixed. Lance 2181 01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:23,960 Speaker 2: Barksdale says that on what appeared to be a strike 2182 01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:27,040 Speaker 2: and the game was over, Taos Scargarnanez checked his swing 2183 01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:30,760 Speaker 2: that led to World War seven breaking out Bud Bud 2184 01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:36,000 Speaker 2: Black the manager for the Rockies, gets run and the 2185 01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:39,800 Speaker 2: next thing, of course, it never fails, right the next pitch, 2186 01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:44,920 Speaker 2: Taal hits a dinger, and you know, I don't think 2187 01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:48,480 Speaker 2: the pitcher, Jake Cave, was too happy. And if you 2188 01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:51,839 Speaker 2: go back and so the games, you know, the Dodgers 2189 01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:57,000 Speaker 2: went eleven nine. Okay, now was at There are no 2190 01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,000 Speaker 2: amount of history onics I can I can try to 2191 01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:00,720 Speaker 2: build this up, So I'm just going to deal with 2192 01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:04,400 Speaker 2: it on the facts. They come back down five, they win. 2193 01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:08,280 Speaker 2: If you look, if you if you look at the replay, 2194 01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,000 Speaker 2: which is not hard to find on the internet. I 2195 01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:12,960 Speaker 2: don't know anybody. I have talked to my own you know, 2196 01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:16,200 Speaker 2: I trust my eyes. They tell me a lot. It 2197 01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:18,560 Speaker 2: looks like Hernanda swung. It looks like that should have 2198 01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:21,960 Speaker 2: been called a swinging throw. It strike Bud blacksher thought so. 2199 01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:24,760 Speaker 2: But the game's played and umpired by humans. So there 2200 01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:29,600 Speaker 2: you have it. That allowed the Dodgers to continue to 2201 01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:32,920 Speaker 2: lead the National League West, which they keep winning. The 2202 01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:36,440 Speaker 2: Rockies are a bottom three team in baseball. And you 2203 01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:38,960 Speaker 2: know Tascar Hernandez, he's only hitting two fifty five, but 2204 01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,600 Speaker 2: he's got a lot of meaningful home runs. Eighteen home 2205 01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:45,120 Speaker 2: runs fifty four dingers, and it's been a nice comeback 2206 01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:50,360 Speaker 2: year for TASCAR because they got them from Seattle. You 2207 01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:54,040 Speaker 2: got Mookie Bets out. The Dodgers need big contributions from 2208 01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:55,960 Speaker 2: the rest of the lineup. That's been their thing all year. 2209 01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:58,720 Speaker 2: Ryan Berschinger comes on our show and we believe they'll 2210 01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:00,160 Speaker 2: make a deal by it, but by the LSTA our 2211 01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:03,440 Speaker 2: break or by the trade deadline. So look, do the 2212 01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:05,720 Speaker 2: Dodgers have magic dust? Well, time will tell, and they've 2213 01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:07,240 Speaker 2: been to the playoffs over here. They're a fixture. It 2214 01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:10,320 Speaker 2: doesn't mean they're gonna win it. So there you have it. 2215 01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:12,320 Speaker 2: We'll have to continue to watch it. But they share 2216 01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:15,600 Speaker 2: had magic dusts the other night against Colorado. I will 2217 01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:18,640 Speaker 2: be back on these airwaves at eleven pm Pacific time 2218 01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,200 Speaker 2: for the Saturday night edition of The Bernie Fratterle Show. 2219 01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,240 Speaker 2: Aaron Torris is going to join us. He had a 2220 01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:27,680 Speaker 2: very interesting encounter with JJ Reddick that might show the 2221 01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:29,800 Speaker 2: sight of JJ Redick. Some of you may think you know, 2222 01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:34,640 Speaker 2: but it's worth mentioning because he's about to step into 2223 01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:37,680 Speaker 2: a white hot spotlight and you might could have, you know, 2224 01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:41,320 Speaker 2: a glimpse of Holly reacts. We also got the Brownie, 2225 01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:44,680 Speaker 2: James Lebron situation, lots of NFL updates, Justin Field's will, 2226 01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:47,720 Speaker 2: maybe a salary cat for quarterbacks, the Chiefs of course, 2227 01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:50,720 Speaker 2: brand new fool and what my Name and all kinds 2228 01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:54,800 Speaker 2: of hijinks. So back on these airwaves at eleven pm 2229 01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:59,400 Speaker 2: Pacific time on Saturday night. We will see it in. 2230 01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:01,400 Speaker 2: That's going to do it for the Bernie Fratter Show, 2231 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:03,760 Speaker 2: but keep it locked right here. Up next The Fellas 2232 01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:05,200 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio