WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Sharp Dressed Man 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.399 Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.639 the Bengals Booths podcast. The they come running just as 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.080 fast as they can because every girl crazy about a 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:18.640 shop dress man. Addition, as the Bengals announced that their 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.520 brand new uniforms will be unveiled on Monday, coming up, 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.040 I'll discuss the process with Elizabeth Blackburn, the Bengals Director 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.800 of Strategy and Engagement, who designed them. How many versions 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.720 will there be? And what about a throwback uniform? She'll 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.800 answer those questions and more. Then it's the greatest debate 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.120 in these parts since do you cut or twirl your 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:45.600 Cincinnati style chili? Are you team Sewel or team Chase? 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.440 When it comes to the Bengals first pick in this 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.960 year's draft, if your team pits, you'll have to wait 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.160 until next week. On this episode of the pod, you'll 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.080 hear from PINEI Suel's head coach at the University of Oregon, 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:02.680 Mario Cristo Ball, followed by Jamar Chase's position coach at LSU, 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:07.880 Mickey Joseph. Both conversations are loaded with interesting nuggets. The 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:12.200 Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer Refreshed 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.560 the game. And here's a quick reminder that you can 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:18.000 have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.800 your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitch, 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.600 your Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:37.600 thing since a New Masters Tournament video game. Hello friends. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.480 I'm not much of a gamer, but I think that's 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.800 about to change after last week's announcement that EA Sports 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.400 is coming out with a new, incredibly detailed video game 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.560 featuring Augusta National. Not only will we be able to 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:57.120 virtually play the course with every Dogwood and Azalea authentically recreated, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.880 but will even drive down Magnolia lad. It's certainly the 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:04.280 closest I'll ever come to playing Augusta. He doesn't know 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.640 it yet, but I've got a fourteen year old son 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.120 who is going to get that game as a present, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.960 whether he wants it or not. I might even allow 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.560 him to play the game with me. Now, let's get 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.320 to football. Back in January, the Bengals announced that they 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.520 will literally have new stripes this year. They are changing 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.440 their uniform for the first time since two thousand and four. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.400 Today on Bengals dot Com, the team posted a fantastic 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.840 video about the history of their uniforms, along with the 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.919 announcement that their new look will be unveiled on Monday. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.200 To give you an idea of what's gone into the process, 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.280 I spoke to the Bengals Director of Strategy and Engagement, 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:48.000 Elizabeth Blackburn. Elizabeth, let's start with the why. Why did 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.400 the Bengals decide it was time for a new look. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:57.040 The process to change your uniform is quite a lengthy process. 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:02.160 So well I have seen make comments about let's change, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.880 let's change now, or let's change because we got a 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:09.280 new quarterback. It's actually a multi year process. But even 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.560 with all of that said, we knew that we hadn't 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.560 changed our uniform since two thousand and three, and I 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:21.040 believe this predated my arrival. But when we went through 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.880 the coaching change, it felt like it had been a 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:29.000 while since we changed our uniforms and it was time 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:33.000 for a new look and a new uniform to accompany that. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:37.560 Next chapter in Bengal's history, tell us what the process 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.440 is like. Do a bunch of people submit designs or 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.480 do you pick a designer who submits a bunch of concepts. 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:49.360 So the NFL is partnered with Nike so we work 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:56.480 with Nike to redesign the uniform, and the process starts 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:01.720 with a brief where the team explains what they're looking 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:06.440 for and from their Nike works with their team of 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:11.320 designers to come back with options and go through a 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.520 process where we've given them the brief, they come back 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.000 with design to you go through a few iterations back 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.880 and forth. I like this, I don't like that, and 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:24.000 ultimately that's how you land on the final design. So 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:28.320 describe what the Bengals were looking for. Fans and players 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:33.520 love our colorush uniform because it is sleek, it is bold, 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.960 so we wanted to build on that. In addition, we 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:42.359 were factoring in some elements of the existing uniform that 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.040 we knew were kind of ready for an update. So 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.760 combining some particular pain points on our existing uniform that 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.719 we're frankly in style in two thousand and three, but 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:59.280 style has changed since then, it was kind of eliminate 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:03.280 some of these particular pain points with the broad goal 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:09.599 of achieving a sleek, timeless, iconic, bold design. We're talking 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.720 to Elizabeth Blackburn, the Bengals Director of Strategy and Engagement. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.839 I've been amazed by all the cool designs that fans 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.479 have posted on social media. There's some really talented people 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.640 out there. Was that the case for you as well. 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.000 We are not allowed to use or look at fan 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.160 or other creative input. It has to purely be through Nike. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:34.279 Either's like a proprietary element there. But so I haven't 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:39.680 looked too too closely, But I enjoy seeing our fans 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:44.240 post and comment enough to a appreciate the talent you 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.520 just mentioned. I mean, it is amazing how many of 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:52.320 our fans are so talented in jersey swaps and creating 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:57.880 new concepts. It's amazing. I also, just through comments, have 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.320 you seen some of the particular or pain points I 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:06.400 would describe them with our existing uniform? And I hope 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:11.600 that fans are relieved to hear that the organization echoed 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.560 some of those opportunity areas to make the new uniform 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:21.320 less blocky and more sleek in the new design. So 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:25.000 how did you make the final choice. It's funny because 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.280 as you go through the process, honestly, by the end 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:34.800 it's almost a little anticlimactic because you are finessing over 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:39.680 the tiniest little detail and then finally you just have 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:44.599 to be done. And I think For me, I was 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:49.320 very involved in some of those tiny little last minute 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.520 oh make it just a little bit this way, and 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:57.880 it took me a little bit of time between yep, okay, deadline, 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.640 this is it, and then if you are often doing 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:06.320 other things, and then several months later when we saw 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.720 the first prototype. It was exciting to see the final 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.440 design and I hope everybody feels as excited as we 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.600 were when we got to unbox it for the first time. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.280 How many versions and color combinations will there be with 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:26.680 a new uniform? So there will be three different jerseys 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:31.040 in three different pants that give us at Max a 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:35.800 combination of nine, but we'll work with you know, the 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:40.000 team to decide. I'm not sure we'll really plan to 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.320 use and fans, we'll see all nine of them this year. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.840 There's like one that sort of really just is meant 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:51.920 to be together. What about the possibility of throwback uniforms 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:57.600 at some point going forward? Throwback uniforms are a possibility 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:03.080 going through the new uniform design and process. For this year, 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:08.280 we just wanted to introduce our new uniforms and really 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:12.240 showcase our new uniform and the new uniform combinations we 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.800 just talked about for this year, So that's where and 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:20.760 why fans will only see three jerseys this year and 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:25.800 no throwback. It is something that we're thinking about for 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.600 future years because the league has a lot of rules 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.679 on the uniforms, and that's why fans, we hear you 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.439 and we know you want that white helmet, but right now, 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.760 by rule, we're only allowed to have one helmet. The 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.960 NFL rules also stipulate that you can have up to 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.920 but no more than four jerseys. We'll have three this year, 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:51.160 and for future years we can keep a fourth jersey 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.960 on the table. We'll have to explore that the helmet 0:08:55.080 --> 0:09:00.520 is not changing. Did you consider changing helmet? We did 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:05.160 a little bit when I joined in on the process. 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.000 I wasn't there since the beginnings. I don't know if 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.240 it was halfway or frankly later because it's so many years. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.320 So I was coming in probably at like the seventy 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:19.480 percent mark, and we were still toying with a very 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.960 minor tweak to the helmet that honestly, when I saw 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:28.600 the initial deck, I didn't even notice. And because our 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.480 helmet is so iconic and it's sleek, and the only 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:36.720 modification they were suggesting to me lost some of that 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.600 sleek element that really I think pairs nicely with the 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.520 new uniforms. You think of a tiger, you think of 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:47.760 a sleek, beautiful animal, someone ferocious, and the minor tweak 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.199 on the helmet made it just feel a little clunky 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:54.400 and didn't feel worth it. We will get our first 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.920 look next Monday, April nineteenth. This is very exciting stuff. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.920 I appreciate you for taking us inside the process. Thanks Elizabeth, 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:06.120 Thank you Dan. The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.440 Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with a hint 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.880 of fruit flavor. On Tuesday, I decided to take a 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.840 look at mock drafts that have come out in the 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:19.559 last two weeks and found fifteen on ESPN, CBS Sports, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.480 NFL dot Com, Pro Football Focus, and Pro Football Network. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:28.200 Six have the Bengals selecting Oregon offensive lineman Pinney Sewell 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:32.560 with a fifth overall pick, Six have Cincinnati taken LSU 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.960 wide receiver Jamar Chase, and three have the Bengals going 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.480 for Florida tight end Kyle Pitts. We'll get to Pitts 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.200 next week, but today it's more expert testimony in the 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:48.200 teams Sewell versus Team Chase debate. Up. First, I recently 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.960 spoke to Oregon head coach Mario Cristo Ball shortly before 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.520 Bengals head coach Zach Taylor, offensive line coach Frank Pollock, 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.679 and director of player Personnel Duke Tobin traveled to Washington 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.840 to watch Piney Sewells pro day. Look, let's start with 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.480 the recruiting process. Do you remember first hearing about Pinay 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.880 and what were your initial impressions of him? Well, I 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:15.840 remember it very vividly where coach Joe Salivair, defensive line coach, 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.520 we had just gotten near to Oregon as comes from 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:24.319 the University of Alabama, where coincidentally the recruitment of your 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.319 other tackle, Jonah Williams, which is for another day in time, 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.400 but we could certainly that will be if I want 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.280 to talk about too. But my man Joe Salavea pulls 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:38.320 out a video and he shows me the video of 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:43.760 his neighbor's son, the Soul Family, and how he's playing 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:48.080 offensive line over in Utah at Desert Pines, and I 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.040 was like, whoa that is? That is some uncommon power 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:56.160 and explosiveness and athletic ability. We have to recruit this guy, 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.920 and that's how it started, and that led to a 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:06.000 very just whinding, crazy, fun, exciting I would say, this 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.960 an incredible journey of a recruiting process and the rest 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:13.679 is history. How did you sell him on coming to Oregon? Well, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.079 we were just real. You know, we had fount that 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.240 we had established a really good offensive line process while 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.000 we were at the University of Alabama, and that was 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.160 a process that we were bringing over here. You know, 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:25.959 it was one that you know, the system that we 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.160 played with played in at the University of Miami and 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.920 carried over a large chunk of that to to Alabama 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.760 and then continue to tweak it and brought it over here. 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:40.400 And that the offense and this, I would say, the 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.040 culture was going to be set around what we do upfront, 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.400 and it starts with the offensive line and the defensive line, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.360 and that he could be a difference maker. And we 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.079 said it in a recruiting sense, we said it in 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.080 a very real and honest sense. And I think he 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.200 saw the vision. He saw the vision and that there 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.840 was some work to be done, but he jumped in 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.080 full brottle and he made a tremendous impact of historical 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.560 run here both in the eighteen and nineteen season. We 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.240 are talking to Oregon head coach Mario crystal Ball. He 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.000 started for you as a true freshman at the age 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.280 of seventeen. It was a month before his eighteenth birthday. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.360 How quickly was it apparent that he could start right 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.880 off the bat? Well, it was I would say practice five. 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.439 When in practice one you knew, I mean they were 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.400 he was knocking guys around. I mean he was. He 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:33.480 grasped concepts so easily, just very natural, very instinctive. But 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.280 when it really hit, it was in the office. The 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.920 line coach out there can appreciate. You know, he's we're 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.720 running power passed, and we was he was playing right tackle. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.880 He was playing right tackle, and thought that would be 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.439 a good way to kind of, you know, let him 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:50.160 get adjusted and progress. And during power pass, as he's 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.360 locked into a double team, he felt something kind of 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.959 hit his his ankle and you could see him he's 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.400 engaged in the block. He looks down and he sees 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.280 the guard somehow I got tripped up on his way 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.880 to pull for the defensive end. And here's a seventeen 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.920 year old freshman in practice five feels that sees that 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.720 realizes that Okay, that guy's on the ground. No one's 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.880 going to block the defensive end. So he presses out 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.000 the double team, maintains presence on the double team, and 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.160 gets a hand out there to block the defensive end 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.920 long enough to get the ball off. So that's like 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.840 the type of intuition, the type of I don't know, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.960 spider sense that a tenure NFL veteran has. So that 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:34.120 just it blew us away, and it made us realize, Okay, 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.600 this we knew about the ability, We knew about the desire, 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.000 the want to. But now when you combine these type 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.120 of instincts, this level of football IQ without ability, we're 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.400 gonna is gonna be a special, special one. I spoke 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.840 to an NFL draft guru who gives Penney very high 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.960 marks but says that he needs to get stronger. Is 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.600 that fair? And is there anything else that you think 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.240 that's really obvious that he needs to imp He's the 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.360 best lineman in college football and it's not by a 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.760 little and the fact that he's what is he now twenty? 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.280 His body is getting stronger and stronger and strong and 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.760 I think when you guys see him work out at 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.000 the upcoming Pro day and the combine, you're gonna see 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.000 a three hundred and will probably be down at three 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.320 thirty five, three thirty two. He's gonna look like he's 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:26.320 three hundred because he's lead, he's explosively's strong, he will 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.320 he already has great strength, and it's gonna get even 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:35.120 better because he's so young, like he's just beginning to develop. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:39.160 I mean, this is like, this is a guy that's 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.080 on a different level type of track towards towards greatness 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.280 and prominence in the NFL. So I'll feel very confident 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.320 where he is and where he's going. Our guest is 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.280 Oregon head coach Mario crystal Ball. You've been quoted as 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:55.000 saying that Piney is the best overall football player that 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.680 you've been around. Now, you just had Justin Herbert, You 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:02.120 played on national two championship teams at Miami, you coached 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:06.120 an Alabama, So that's saying something what lifts Piney to 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.080 that level. Yeah, I've had a bunch of my former 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:14.040 players just kill me on that one. But it's because 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.160 there's so many that are up there. You mentioned Justin. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.200 I mean again, you know some of the guy on 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.360 your own team right now, there as good as it 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:25.360 gets um pine, as young as he was, and you're 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.160 looking at a guy that really could have spent another 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.480 year in high school. Right, was almost a great ahead? 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.800 Is that when you combine that type of power athleticism. 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.240 Do you watch film, he's rarely ever ever on the 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.760 ground that type of balance you believed to slide anchor 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.920 be that light footed but heavy handed, have that type 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:47.360 of flexibility in your hips and ankles, understand the intent 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.480 of a play hat position, what the guys around you 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:54.000 are doing, and when you play that hard to finish 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.960 and knock people back. Um, it's just it's rare. It's 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:02.160 it's elite. You know, it's one hundred percentile. And I 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.280 just what can I say? If the guy in his 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.240 second year in college football won the Outlet Trophy at ninete, 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.280 think about that, and he was having the best offseason 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.080 in his life before our season was canceled and then 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:21.520 later restarted. So I don't think it's it's understood how 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:26.119 incredibly advanced this guy is. And but the more they 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.119 watched him they realize what his ages. You're just not 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.280 going to find a better prospect. I really don't think 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.320 at any position. But again, and look, I get it. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.240 I coached the guy, So people say, well, he's biased, 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.760 Like I've been around and been lucky. I've been lucky 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.360 fortunately around great players. This guy is as good as 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.800 it gets. And again just getting started. And I had 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.520 forgotten about your ties to Jonah Williams from your years 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.600 as an Alabama assistant. So if the Bengals wind up 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.600 selecting Pinet, if he's still there at number five and 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.679 Cincinnati takes him, how would they be set with Jonah 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.640 Williams on one side and Pinnay at the other. Oh 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.320 my lord, are you to me those two guys right there? 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.320 Because Jonah was I've always you know, if there's parabol 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.080 coach to be talking about Jonah the best I have 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.880 ever seen, because I recruited Jonah as hard as any 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.080 human being you can ever imagine, and then try to 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.920 match that into recruiting Pinay because they're game changers. I'll 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.120 never forget watching Jonah out of practice when I flew 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.119 out there to fulsome California and it was in shorts 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.280 and helmets, but the guy was going full speed as 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.160 if it was a patch as heavy handed, great balance 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.160 and power. If you have those two guys at tackle, 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.760 I you know again, I am in college football. I 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.400 don't I don't get to watch as much NFL footballs 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.679 as I would like to do to the scheduling. But 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.159 I can't imagine I haven't been around better tackles than that. 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.560 You know, Camp Robinson and those guys are you know, 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:55.399 Bryan McKennis, He's are just the top of the food chain. Guys. 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.160 Last thing for Oregon head coach Mario Cristo Ball, years 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.960 from now, when you are speaking at an Oregon function 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:07.359 and telling the alums a story about pinay sewell, what 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.760 will you tell them? What will be the h the 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.840 message message you want to pass along about him? The 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.680 recruiting process was driving him crazy, which in turn drove 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.679 us crazy. He was really hard to find, you know. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.760 And the final, the final piece was that I wasn't 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.200 allowed to go see him anymore because college rules, once 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.680 head coach sees and visits a guy can't go back. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.280 So our GA and our defensive line coaches very close 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.399 to the family that were actually neighbors an American Samoa um, 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.000 they went to the house. And the final piece, the 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.520 final tipping point is our GA actually put on our 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:49.439 mascots part of the to help tip it over. And 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.159 I don't know if it upset Piney or if it 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:55.240 got him to heed, but all in all it is 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.040 I don't know, it'll be more of a story as 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.199 it is the relation with that family, and I have 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.919 a feeling that well, I don't have a feeling. I 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.040 fully am fully confident that in a couple of years 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.040 of you and I we're probably having a similar conversation 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.959 about his brother, who was a freshman All American linebacker 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.880 at six foot three two unter sixty five pounds. So 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.119 that sounds like the Lee Corso recruiting technique, bring the 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.119 duck head and pull that out if you need it. 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:28.760 At the time it was okay. I don't know if 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:32.760 you could do that anymore, but here it was a 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.480 great recruiting process, and certainly blessed that that family allowed 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.000 us in their lives and it turned out like it did. Coach, 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.639 I know you've got a really busy schedule. We appreciate 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:43.960 your time and thanks for the insight on Piney Sewell. 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:46.640 I appreciate you have me and I wish you guys 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.080 a great draft. That was a pretty compelling case for 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:54.040 Team Sewell. Now it's Team Chase's turn as we visit 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:58.240 with LSU wide receivers coach Mickey Joseph, who incidentally is 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.520 the older brother a former Angles defensive backs coach and 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:07.400 Denver Bronco's head coach. Advanced Joseph, coach described Jamar Chase 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.399 as a person, you know, a great kid. Really enjoyed 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.480 coaching him. You know, take the shirt off his back 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.360 and give it to you if you need it. You know. 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.919 It's just always um always is always is willing to 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.320 help people, you know what I mean. When when when 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:24.679 it comes down to his teammates, you know, he you know, 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:26.520 he always treated him my damn with brothers, you know. 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:30.000 And that's one thing you love about him and his 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:33.840 family that they're good people and they they're really they're 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.480 really just the heart that they have to love, the 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.760 love that he has and his offers teammates and people 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:42.320 around him. He's a great kid. What do you think 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.879 are his greatest traits as a wide receiver. He plays 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.119 with power, And when I say he plays with power, 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.160 the way he catches the ball, the way the way 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.600 he wants he touched the ball once he turns into 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.760 a runner, the way he puts his foot in the 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.600 ground as a route runner. Everything he does with power, 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.720 he's releasing off the line of scrimmags, press coverage. It's 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.720 power is strength, and it's twitchiness with it, and it's 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.760 there's a red track that you twitch. You like this, 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.480 but you play with so much power because usually power 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.760 guys are not twitchy, you know, and he's a he's 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.679 a power guy, but he's twitchy also, so you know, 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.520 he's an outside guy that he can release press, you know, 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.080 if he's an outside receiver, you know, but also you 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.520 can put him in a slot and he's twitching enough 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:29.880 to run option routes and things of that sort. We're 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:33.240 talking to Mickey, Joe's at the wide receivers coach at LSU. 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:36.840 What did you notice in the chemistry between Joe Burrow 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:41.040 and Jamar a couple of years ago. Well, one thing 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.280 about Joe, and you know, you said we missed that 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.919 he was always in total control. They were always they 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.720 were always on the same page. You know, they'll do 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:54.120 some things in the game and it'd be off. It'd 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.879 be of course, you know, but you know they'd worked 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:58.560 on it. If you look at the one play with 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:02.480 from Alabama with Jamar couldn't get inside on a glance. 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.119 He just broke it up to feel and turn it 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.320 into like a run back, you know. And that's some 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.560 him and Joe probably worked on him, you know, but 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:13.200 they had really good chemistry. Joe can kind of look 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.560 at him and no way, no way, He's going to 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:17.040 be on the field at all time. And he had 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:18.679 a good feel with Joe was going to place the 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.800 ball a certain routes. That just the chemistry was just there, 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.280 you know, with with with Jamar and Joe, and it 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.040 was you know, just you mean, Joe one one of 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.280 Heisman another one. Want the politic call coach. I know 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.240 you would have loved to have him on the field 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:36.000 last year. But what do you think he did for 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:41.320 himself after deciding to opt out? Well, I think what happened, 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.960 you know, you know, just if you think about it, 0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.760 if you think about with Jamar, you know, I thought 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.000 he had a chance to rest his body, you know, 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.080 because he goes, he goes hard. He practice hard. Of 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:57.040 you if you're to Washington practice leading up to the 0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:59.119 weeks that he opted out, you had never known that 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.399