1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,399 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booths podcast. The they come running just as 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: fast as they can because every girl crazy about a 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: shop dress man. Addition, as the Bengals announced that their 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: brand new uniforms will be unveiled on Monday, coming up, 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: I'll discuss the process with Elizabeth Blackburn, the Bengals Director 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: of Strategy and Engagement, who designed them. How many versions 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: will there be? And what about a throwback uniform? She'll 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: answer those questions and more. Then it's the greatest debate 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: in these parts since do you cut or twirl your 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Cincinnati style chili? Are you team Sewel or team Chase? 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: When it comes to the Bengals first pick in this 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: year's draft, if your team pits, you'll have to wait 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: until next week. On this episode of the pod, you'll 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: hear from PINEI Suel's head coach at the University of Oregon, 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Mario Cristo Ball, followed by Jamar Chase's position coach at LSU, 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: Mickey Joseph. Both conversations are loaded with interesting nuggets. The 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer Refreshed 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: the game. And here's a quick reminder that you can 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitch, 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: your Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: thing since a New Masters Tournament video game. Hello friends. 24 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm not much of a gamer, but I think that's 25 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: about to change after last week's announcement that EA Sports 26 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: is coming out with a new, incredibly detailed video game 27 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: featuring Augusta National. Not only will we be able to 28 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: virtually play the course with every Dogwood and Azalea authentically recreated, 29 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: but will even drive down Magnolia lad. It's certainly the 30 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: closest I'll ever come to playing Augusta. He doesn't know 31 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: it yet, but I've got a fourteen year old son 32 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: who is going to get that game as a present, 33 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: whether he wants it or not. I might even allow 34 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: him to play the game with me. Now, let's get 35 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: to football. Back in January, the Bengals announced that they 36 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: will literally have new stripes this year. They are changing 37 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: their uniform for the first time since two thousand and four. 38 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: Today on Bengals dot Com, the team posted a fantastic 39 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: video about the history of their uniforms, along with the 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: announcement that their new look will be unveiled on Monday. 41 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: To give you an idea of what's gone into the process, 42 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: I spoke to the Bengals Director of Strategy and Engagement, 43 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Blackburn. Elizabeth, let's start with the why. Why did 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals decide it was time for a new look. 45 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: The process to change your uniform is quite a lengthy process. 46 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: So well I have seen make comments about let's change, 47 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: let's change now, or let's change because we got a 48 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: new quarterback. It's actually a multi year process. But even 49 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: with all of that said, we knew that we hadn't 50 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: changed our uniform since two thousand and three, and I 51 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: believe this predated my arrival. But when we went through 52 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: the coaching change, it felt like it had been a 53 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: while since we changed our uniforms and it was time 54 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: for a new look and a new uniform to accompany that. 55 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: Next chapter in Bengal's history, tell us what the process 56 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: is like. Do a bunch of people submit designs or 57 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: do you pick a designer who submits a bunch of concepts. 58 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: So the NFL is partnered with Nike so we work 59 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: with Nike to redesign the uniform, and the process starts 60 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: with a brief where the team explains what they're looking 61 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: for and from their Nike works with their team of 62 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: designers to come back with options and go through a 63 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: process where we've given them the brief, they come back 64 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: with design to you go through a few iterations back 65 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: and forth. I like this, I don't like that, and 66 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: ultimately that's how you land on the final design. So 67 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: describe what the Bengals were looking for. Fans and players 68 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: love our colorush uniform because it is sleek, it is bold, 69 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: so we wanted to build on that. In addition, we 70 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: were factoring in some elements of the existing uniform that 71 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: we knew were kind of ready for an update. So 72 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: combining some particular pain points on our existing uniform that 73 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: we're frankly in style in two thousand and three, but 74 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: style has changed since then, it was kind of eliminate 75 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: some of these particular pain points with the broad goal 76 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: of achieving a sleek, timeless, iconic, bold design. We're talking 77 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: to Elizabeth Blackburn, the Bengals Director of Strategy and Engagement. 78 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: I've been amazed by all the cool designs that fans 79 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: have posted on social media. There's some really talented people 80 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: out there. Was that the case for you as well. 81 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: We are not allowed to use or look at fan 82 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: or other creative input. It has to purely be through Nike. 83 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: Either's like a proprietary element there. But so I haven't 84 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: looked too too closely, But I enjoy seeing our fans 85 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: post and comment enough to a appreciate the talent you 86 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: just mentioned. I mean, it is amazing how many of 87 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: our fans are so talented in jersey swaps and creating 88 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: new concepts. It's amazing. I also, just through comments, have 89 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: you seen some of the particular or pain points I 90 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: would describe them with our existing uniform? And I hope 91 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: that fans are relieved to hear that the organization echoed 92 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: some of those opportunity areas to make the new uniform 93 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: less blocky and more sleek in the new design. So 94 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: how did you make the final choice. It's funny because 95 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: as you go through the process, honestly, by the end 96 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: it's almost a little anticlimactic because you are finessing over 97 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: the tiniest little detail and then finally you just have 98 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: to be done. And I think For me, I was 99 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: very involved in some of those tiny little last minute 100 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: oh make it just a little bit this way, and 101 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: it took me a little bit of time between yep, okay, deadline, 102 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: this is it, and then if you are often doing 103 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: other things, and then several months later when we saw 104 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: the first prototype. It was exciting to see the final 105 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: design and I hope everybody feels as excited as we 106 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: were when we got to unbox it for the first time. 107 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: How many versions and color combinations will there be with 108 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: a new uniform? So there will be three different jerseys 109 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: in three different pants that give us at Max a 110 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: combination of nine, but we'll work with you know, the 111 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: team to decide. I'm not sure we'll really plan to 112 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: use and fans, we'll see all nine of them this year. 113 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: There's like one that sort of really just is meant 114 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: to be together. What about the possibility of throwback uniforms 115 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: at some point going forward? Throwback uniforms are a possibility 116 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: going through the new uniform design and process. For this year, 117 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: we just wanted to introduce our new uniforms and really 118 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: showcase our new uniform and the new uniform combinations we 119 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: just talked about for this year, So that's where and 120 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: why fans will only see three jerseys this year and 121 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: no throwback. It is something that we're thinking about for 122 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: future years because the league has a lot of rules 123 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: on the uniforms, and that's why fans, we hear you 124 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: and we know you want that white helmet, but right now, 125 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: by rule, we're only allowed to have one helmet. The 126 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: NFL rules also stipulate that you can have up to 127 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: but no more than four jerseys. We'll have three this year, 128 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: and for future years we can keep a fourth jersey 129 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: on the table. We'll have to explore that the helmet 130 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: is not changing. Did you consider changing helmet? We did 131 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: a little bit when I joined in on the process. 132 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't there since the beginnings. I don't know if 133 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: it was halfway or frankly later because it's so many years. 134 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: So I was coming in probably at like the seventy 135 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: percent mark, and we were still toying with a very 136 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: minor tweak to the helmet that honestly, when I saw 137 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: the initial deck, I didn't even notice. And because our 138 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: helmet is so iconic and it's sleek, and the only 139 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: modification they were suggesting to me lost some of that 140 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: sleek element that really I think pairs nicely with the 141 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: new uniforms. You think of a tiger, you think of 142 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: a sleek, beautiful animal, someone ferocious, and the minor tweak 143 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: on the helmet made it just feel a little clunky 144 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: and didn't feel worth it. We will get our first 145 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: look next Monday, April nineteenth. This is very exciting stuff. 146 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for taking us inside the process. Thanks Elizabeth, 147 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: Thank you Dan. The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by 148 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with a hint 149 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: of fruit flavor. On Tuesday, I decided to take a 150 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: look at mock drafts that have come out in the 151 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: last two weeks and found fifteen on ESPN, CBS Sports, 152 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, Pro Football Focus, and Pro Football Network. 153 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: Six have the Bengals selecting Oregon offensive lineman Pinney Sewell 154 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: with a fifth overall pick, Six have Cincinnati taken LSU 155 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver Jamar Chase, and three have the Bengals going 156 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: for Florida tight end Kyle Pitts. We'll get to Pitts 157 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: next week, but today it's more expert testimony in the 158 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: teams Sewell versus Team Chase debate. Up. First, I recently 159 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: spoke to Oregon head coach Mario Cristo Ball shortly before 160 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: Bengals head coach Zach Taylor, offensive line coach Frank Pollock, 161 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: and director of player Personnel Duke Tobin traveled to Washington 162 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: to watch Piney Sewells pro day. Look, let's start with 163 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: the recruiting process. Do you remember first hearing about Pinay 164 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: and what were your initial impressions of him? Well, I 165 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: remember it very vividly where coach Joe Salivair, defensive line coach, 166 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: we had just gotten near to Oregon as comes from 167 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: the University of Alabama, where coincidentally the recruitment of your 168 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: other tackle, Jonah Williams, which is for another day in time, 169 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: but we could certainly that will be if I want 170 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: to talk about too. But my man Joe Salavea pulls 171 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: out a video and he shows me the video of 172 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: his neighbor's son, the Soul Family, and how he's playing 173 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: offensive line over in Utah at Desert Pines, and I 174 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: was like, whoa that is? That is some uncommon power 175 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: and explosiveness and athletic ability. We have to recruit this guy, 176 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: and that's how it started, and that led to a 177 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: very just whinding, crazy, fun, exciting I would say, this 178 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: an incredible journey of a recruiting process and the rest 179 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: is history. How did you sell him on coming to Oregon? Well, 180 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: we were just real. You know, we had fount that 181 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: we had established a really good offensive line process while 182 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: we were at the University of Alabama, and that was 183 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: a process that we were bringing over here. You know, 184 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: it was one that you know, the system that we 185 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: played with played in at the University of Miami and 186 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: carried over a large chunk of that to to Alabama 187 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: and then continue to tweak it and brought it over here. 188 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: And that the offense and this, I would say, the 189 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: culture was going to be set around what we do upfront, 190 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: and it starts with the offensive line and the defensive line, 191 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: and that he could be a difference maker. And we 192 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: said it in a recruiting sense, we said it in 193 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: a very real and honest sense. And I think he 194 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: saw the vision. He saw the vision and that there 195 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: was some work to be done, but he jumped in 196 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: full brottle and he made a tremendous impact of historical 197 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: run here both in the eighteen and nineteen season. We 198 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: are talking to Oregon head coach Mario crystal Ball. He 199 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: started for you as a true freshman at the age 200 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: of seventeen. It was a month before his eighteenth birthday. 201 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: How quickly was it apparent that he could start right 202 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: off the bat? Well, it was I would say practice five. 203 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: When in practice one you knew, I mean they were 204 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: he was knocking guys around. I mean he was. He 205 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: grasped concepts so easily, just very natural, very instinctive. But 206 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: when it really hit, it was in the office. The 207 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: line coach out there can appreciate. You know, he's we're 208 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: running power passed, and we was he was playing right tackle. 209 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: He was playing right tackle, and thought that would be 210 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: a good way to kind of, you know, let him 211 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: get adjusted and progress. And during power pass, as he's 212 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: locked into a double team, he felt something kind of 213 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: hit his his ankle and you could see him he's 214 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: engaged in the block. He looks down and he sees 215 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: the guard somehow I got tripped up on his way 216 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: to pull for the defensive end. And here's a seventeen 217 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: year old freshman in practice five feels that sees that 218 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: realizes that Okay, that guy's on the ground. No one's 219 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: going to block the defensive end. So he presses out 220 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: the double team, maintains presence on the double team, and 221 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: gets a hand out there to block the defensive end 222 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: long enough to get the ball off. So that's like 223 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: the type of intuition, the type of I don't know, 224 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: spider sense that a tenure NFL veteran has. So that 225 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: just it blew us away, and it made us realize, Okay, 226 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: this we knew about the ability, We knew about the desire, 227 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: the want to. But now when you combine these type 228 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: of instincts, this level of football IQ without ability, we're 229 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: gonna is gonna be a special, special one. I spoke 230 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: to an NFL draft guru who gives Penney very high 231 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: marks but says that he needs to get stronger. Is 232 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: that fair? And is there anything else that you think 233 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: that's really obvious that he needs to imp He's the 234 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: best lineman in college football and it's not by a 235 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: little and the fact that he's what is he now twenty? 236 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: His body is getting stronger and stronger and strong and 237 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: I think when you guys see him work out at 238 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: the upcoming Pro day and the combine, you're gonna see 239 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: a three hundred and will probably be down at three 240 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: thirty five, three thirty two. He's gonna look like he's 241 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: three hundred because he's lead, he's explosively's strong, he will 242 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: he already has great strength, and it's gonna get even 243 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: better because he's so young, like he's just beginning to develop. 244 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like, this is a guy that's 245 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: on a different level type of track towards towards greatness 246 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: and prominence in the NFL. So I'll feel very confident 247 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: where he is and where he's going. Our guest is 248 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Oregon head coach Mario crystal Ball. You've been quoted as 249 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: saying that Piney is the best overall football player that 250 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: you've been around. Now, you just had Justin Herbert, You 251 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: played on national two championship teams at Miami, you coached 252 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: an Alabama, So that's saying something what lifts Piney to 253 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: that level. Yeah, I've had a bunch of my former 254 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: players just kill me on that one. But it's because 255 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: there's so many that are up there. You mentioned Justin. 256 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean again, you know some of the guy on 257 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: your own team right now, there as good as it 258 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: gets um pine, as young as he was, and you're 259 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: looking at a guy that really could have spent another 260 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: year in high school. Right, was almost a great ahead? 261 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Is that when you combine that type of power athleticism. 262 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: Do you watch film, he's rarely ever ever on the 263 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: ground that type of balance you believed to slide anchor 264 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: be that light footed but heavy handed, have that type 265 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: of flexibility in your hips and ankles, understand the intent 266 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: of a play hat position, what the guys around you 267 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: are doing, and when you play that hard to finish 268 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: and knock people back. Um, it's just it's rare. It's 269 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: it's elite. You know, it's one hundred percentile. And I 270 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: just what can I say? If the guy in his 271 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: second year in college football won the Outlet Trophy at ninete, 272 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: think about that, and he was having the best offseason 273 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: in his life before our season was canceled and then 274 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: later restarted. So I don't think it's it's understood how 275 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: incredibly advanced this guy is. And but the more they 276 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: watched him they realize what his ages. You're just not 277 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: going to find a better prospect. I really don't think 278 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: at any position. But again, and look, I get it. 279 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: I coached the guy, So people say, well, he's biased, 280 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: Like I've been around and been lucky. I've been lucky 281 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: fortunately around great players. This guy is as good as 282 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: it gets. And again just getting started. And I had 283 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: forgotten about your ties to Jonah Williams from your years 284 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: as an Alabama assistant. So if the Bengals wind up 285 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: selecting Pinet, if he's still there at number five and 286 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: Cincinnati takes him, how would they be set with Jonah 287 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: Williams on one side and Pinnay at the other. Oh 288 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: my lord, are you to me those two guys right there? 289 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: Because Jonah was I've always you know, if there's parabol 290 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: coach to be talking about Jonah the best I have 291 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: ever seen, because I recruited Jonah as hard as any 292 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: human being you can ever imagine, and then try to 293 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: match that into recruiting Pinay because they're game changers. I'll 294 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: never forget watching Jonah out of practice when I flew 295 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: out there to fulsome California and it was in shorts 296 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: and helmets, but the guy was going full speed as 297 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: if it was a patch as heavy handed, great balance 298 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: and power. If you have those two guys at tackle, 299 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: I you know again, I am in college football. I 300 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: don't I don't get to watch as much NFL footballs 301 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: as I would like to do to the scheduling. But 302 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: I can't imagine I haven't been around better tackles than that. 303 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: You know, Camp Robinson and those guys are you know, 304 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: Bryan McKennis, He's are just the top of the food chain. Guys. 305 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: Last thing for Oregon head coach Mario Cristo Ball, years 306 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: from now, when you are speaking at an Oregon function 307 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: and telling the alums a story about pinay sewell, what 308 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: will you tell them? What will be the h the 309 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: message message you want to pass along about him? The 310 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: recruiting process was driving him crazy, which in turn drove 311 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: us crazy. He was really hard to find, you know. 312 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: And the final, the final piece was that I wasn't 313 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: allowed to go see him anymore because college rules, once 314 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: head coach sees and visits a guy can't go back. 315 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: So our GA and our defensive line coaches very close 316 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: to the family that were actually neighbors an American Samoa um, 317 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: they went to the house. And the final piece, the 318 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: final tipping point is our GA actually put on our 319 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: mascots part of the to help tip it over. And 320 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if it upset Piney or if it 321 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: got him to heed, but all in all it is 322 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, it'll be more of a story as 323 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: it is the relation with that family, and I have 324 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: a feeling that well, I don't have a feeling. I 325 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: fully am fully confident that in a couple of years 326 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: of you and I we're probably having a similar conversation 327 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 1: about his brother, who was a freshman All American linebacker 328 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: at six foot three two unter sixty five pounds. So 329 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: that sounds like the Lee Corso recruiting technique, bring the 330 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: duck head and pull that out if you need it. 331 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: At the time it was okay. I don't know if 332 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: you could do that anymore, but here it was a 333 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: great recruiting process, and certainly blessed that that family allowed 334 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: us in their lives and it turned out like it did. Coach, 335 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: I know you've got a really busy schedule. We appreciate 336 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: your time and thanks for the insight on Piney Sewell. 337 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate you have me and I wish you guys 338 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: a great draft. That was a pretty compelling case for 339 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: Team Sewell. Now it's Team Chase's turn as we visit 340 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: with LSU wide receivers coach Mickey Joseph, who incidentally is 341 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: the older brother a former Angles defensive backs coach and 342 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: Denver Bronco's head coach. Advanced Joseph, coach described Jamar Chase 343 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: as a person, you know, a great kid. Really enjoyed 344 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: coaching him. You know, take the shirt off his back 345 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: and give it to you if you need it. You know. 346 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: It's just always um always is always is willing to 347 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: help people, you know what I mean. When when when 348 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: it comes down to his teammates, you know, he you know, 349 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: he always treated him my damn with brothers, you know. 350 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: And that's one thing you love about him and his 351 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: family that they're good people and they they're really they're 352 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: really just the heart that they have to love, the 353 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: love that he has and his offers teammates and people 354 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: around him. He's a great kid. What do you think 355 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: are his greatest traits as a wide receiver. He plays 356 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: with power, And when I say he plays with power, 357 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: the way he catches the ball, the way the way 358 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: he wants he touched the ball once he turns into 359 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: a runner, the way he puts his foot in the 360 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: ground as a route runner. Everything he does with power, 361 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: he's releasing off the line of scrimmags, press coverage. It's 362 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: power is strength, and it's twitchiness with it, and it's 363 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: there's a red track that you twitch. You like this, 364 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: but you play with so much power because usually power 365 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: guys are not twitchy, you know, and he's a he's 366 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: a power guy, but he's twitchy also, so you know, 367 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: he's an outside guy that he can release press, you know, 368 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: if he's an outside receiver, you know, but also you 369 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: can put him in a slot and he's twitching enough 370 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: to run option routes and things of that sort. We're 371 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: talking to Mickey, Joe's at the wide receivers coach at LSU. 372 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: What did you notice in the chemistry between Joe Burrow 373 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: and Jamar a couple of years ago. Well, one thing 374 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: about Joe, and you know, you said we missed that 375 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: he was always in total control. They were always they 376 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: were always on the same page. You know, they'll do 377 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: some things in the game and it'd be off. It'd 378 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: be of course, you know, but you know they'd worked 379 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: on it. If you look at the one play with 380 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: from Alabama with Jamar couldn't get inside on a glance. 381 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: He just broke it up to feel and turn it 382 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: into like a run back, you know. And that's some 383 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: him and Joe probably worked on him, you know, but 384 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: they had really good chemistry. Joe can kind of look 385 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: at him and no way, no way, He's going to 386 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: be on the field at all time. And he had 387 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: a good feel with Joe was going to place the 388 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: ball a certain routes. That just the chemistry was just there, 389 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, with with with Jamar and Joe, and it 390 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: was you know, just you mean, Joe one one of 391 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: Heisman another one. Want the politic call coach. I know 392 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: you would have loved to have him on the field 393 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: last year. But what do you think he did for 394 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: himself after deciding to opt out? Well, I think what happened, 395 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, you know, just if you think about it, 396 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: if you think about with Jamar, you know, I thought 397 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: he had a chance to rest his body, you know, 398 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: because he goes, he goes hard. He practice hard. Of 399 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: you if you're to Washington practice leading up to the 400 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: weeks that he opted out, you had never known that 401 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: he was opting out. And I think it was more 402 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: of just a family decision. Um, you know he did 403 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: call back, you know, we week three and he wanted 404 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: to come back because he stayed in school. Best think 405 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: you knew he stayed in school, did he? He was 406 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: still doing the school work, trying to make sure he 407 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: gets his um gets his degree, which I was very 408 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: proud of him for that. But Ja Jamar just man 409 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: just you know, just unbelievable. You know, the things that 410 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: that that we missed when he wasn't there. But you know, 411 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: like I said, I thought he became a He was 412 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: no healthier. You know when he when he worked out, 413 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: he looked good, his body looked good, he wasn't beat up. 414 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: And um, you see the way he ran and he 415 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: plays fast like that. So I think he's just about 416 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: him testing off to Charleston because of the time that 417 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: he had off the rest of his body. Justin Jefferson 418 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: obviously had a tremendous rookie year. What does that say 419 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: about Jamara's potential ability to come right in in year 420 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: one and succeed. Well, I always say this NFL five 421 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: yard after six yards, you can't touch them. And Jets 422 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: had an unbelievable year, you know, And I think, you 423 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: know just because they were so used to being help, 424 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: you know, twenty yards down the field, all the way 425 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: down the field. And I think, you know, the NFL 426 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: group really benefits these kids because they're very explosive and 427 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: very powerful and strong. And I think, you know, Jets, 428 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: Jets had a great year, and I'm looking forward to 429 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: see what Jamar is going to do in the league, 430 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, because I knew Jets had a great year. 431 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: But you know, something I expected, you know, and it 432 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: ain't too many people in the country can cover these 433 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: two kids one on one, you know, one on one 434 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: because the things that they do. But the one thing 435 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: they do well, they both can catch the ball. You know, 436 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 1: they can catch the ball, and they can catch you know, 437 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: they can bring in contested catches. You can be hanging 438 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: on them and they still can bring the ball in. 439 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: And they run great routes. You know, Jamara runs great routes. 440 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: So those Jets. But like I said, Jamar's like he's 441 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: more powerful. We're talking to Mickey Joe's if the wide 442 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: receivers coaching that last year. Do you have a favorite 443 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: Jamar story, a favorite Mark story. Um, it's really human 444 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: terms marshing. It was their freshman year and you know, 445 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: and I was, you know, You're like, you know, you 446 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: gotta break him in there five stars and you gotta 447 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: break him in. And we're playing Florida, and you know 448 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: a couple of things when when when when left went right, 449 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, and and I didn't play him as much. 450 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: And and when I coming out and I was coming 451 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: out the locker room, I had um one of the 452 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: coaches tell them and like, hey, the chase in the 453 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: Marshal families out there waiting for you. I went back 454 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: in and kind of, you know, I'm losing my tie 455 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: because I know they were very disappointed that they didn't play. 456 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: But it was it was growing pains for him the 457 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: freshman year. And the funny thing about it that I 458 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: told both sets of parents that if you trust what 459 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing with your kids, one day, we're gonna sit 460 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: back and laugh about it. And uh, and y'all gonna 461 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: y'all all gonna be rich. You know, you're gonna have 462 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: more money than you have now. And and at pro 463 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: day we all laughed about that, you know, because they 464 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't understand. And I do take I 465 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: do take my time with them, you know, I put 466 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: them out there to see just so much I can 467 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: get out of them, you know. And I think that 468 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: Jamara learned from that, Terrence learned from that that now 469 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: coming in the door the rookie year, they they're not 470 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: going to come in saying, oh, I don't have to 471 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: do this ones, I'm just going to get open. They're 472 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: gonna come in doing I gotta use my technique, I 473 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: gotta run good routes, I got to see the ball, 474 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: I got to do don't lose the technique stuff. And 475 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: I think they learned that from the freshman year when 476 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: they came in they just going to put on natural ability. 477 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: But now when we have guys like you know Greaty 478 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: Waves here, you know from Folk here, and you know 479 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: Stingley here, we got dudes here, you know. So I 480 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: think they learn learn from that, and I think it's 481 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: going to help him. At the beginning of the NFL career, 482 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: I spoke to Chris Blair, the radio voice of the Tigers, 483 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: and he was telling me about the Summer of ten 484 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: thousand Passes, where these wide receivers literally committed to catch 485 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: ten thousand passes during the course of the summer. What 486 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: does that say about the group that you've been coaching 487 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: at LFU. Well, it was something that Joe Brady. Joe 488 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: Brady came in here. When Joe Brady came in, he 489 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: bought it here and we asked the guys to catch 490 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: ten thousand, ten thousand balls from spring up until to know, 491 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: from the end of spring until the first until we 492 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: report for training camp and um, and it was they 493 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: they tried to do it, you know, I think some 494 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: of them got up to like eight thousand. And we 495 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: did the same thing this year right before spring ball. 496 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: We get him three months to catch five thousand balls. 497 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: So we do we put you know, put emphasis and 498 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: all that, and well we'll come back right after spring 499 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: balls over Saturday when Sunday was stought. There ten thousand 500 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: ball quests. So you came Joe Brady brought that here 501 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, it was really good. It's 502 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: not just catching catching ball. You can catch tennis balls, 503 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, as long as you're catching the ball, they 504 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: can they can. We tell them they can be in 505 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: the backyard with their girlfriend and she can get tossed 506 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: into tennis ball to him. Because it's a hand eye 507 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: coordination that we're working on in hand flexibility being to 508 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: squeeze the ball and have strong hands. And so the 509 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: boys did that and that you know, so that's one 510 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: thing that we do here now. But um, you know, 511 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: he had to take your hats off to him. They 512 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: was out there every day catching balls, and I think 513 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: that that helped him. So Jamar is obviously going to 514 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: be a top ten draft pick, and Terris Marshall could 515 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: be a first round pick as well. If he doesn't 516 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: go on the first, he'll certainly be gone by the 517 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: end of the second. What kind of an NFL prospect 518 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: is Terris Marshall? Well, Terns. I think Terence is a 519 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: kid that you know, he can play X, F or Z, 520 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: he can play all three. And I think Terence is 521 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, real twitchy for a six six, two sixty 522 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: three kid. He's got really good hands, you see, He's 523 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: got long ball speed that he can go get the 524 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: big ball. And I think, you know, he I think 525 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: with Terence, the Terns is on another football team. With 526 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: just him, he would he would have been f you know, 527 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: like you know, like Ceedee Lamp. He was the only 528 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: one that oh YouTube, you know, go use. So the 529 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: Terns had to play with Jamar Clyde justin you know, 530 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: Thaddeus Moss, so he kind of you know, and we 531 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: never had the first option second apptate. We just called plays, 532 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, we called plays and who helped a stoption 533 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: st option. But at one point Terrence was leading the 534 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: country with nine touchdowns in three weeks. So terms best 535 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: football's ahead of them. And I know last year, you know, 536 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: on film, you know, he looked like he took some 537 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: plays off, but you know he was. He was beat 538 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: up sometimes, you know, because you know, practice hard and play, 539 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, and we you know, so but I think 540 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: his best football is ahead of him. And I'm excited 541 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: to see him because he's a He's a kid that 542 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: can catch the ball and can run and can get open, 543 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, but think about what he brings. He can play, 544 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: he can play all three. He can play X position 545 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: and F position and his Z position because he's played 546 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: all three here in the l Ship. So I'm excited 547 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: to see what Terrence is gonna do. Like all right, 548 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: obviously I got told him last year about jets. I 549 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: think these two kids are the top, the top in 550 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: the top twnity drifts. You know, I know them other kids, 551 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: but I look at those other kids and I'm like, 552 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: they don't play against the heat. These kids played against 553 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: every week, you know what. I mean, one kid at 554 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: Alabama deal, you know, But I just think that these 555 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: two kids are big a statue and then they're strong, 556 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, and they're not going to dig out, They're 557 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: not going to get knocked around. And in terms of 558 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 1: you know, the terms of a kid that size who 559 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 1: can do things like that, that's special. A couple more 560 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: questions for Mickey Joe's if the wide receivers coach at LSU, 561 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: you referenced Thaddius Moss. The Bengals just picked him up yesterday, 562 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: the day before this conversation. Do you think Joe Burrow 563 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: can help bring out the best in Thaddius as an 564 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: NFL player? I think I think he can't. And I'll 565 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: tell people this. You know, Daddy's just probably one of 566 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: the smartest football players I've ever been around. He's one 567 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: of the kids. He's got some of the best hands, 568 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: he runs some of the best routes. But he's a 569 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's an every down tight end, you know, 570 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: He's an every down tight and like you can leave 571 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: him in on third down he would pass block, you 572 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: can run routes. You know, you see to catch you 573 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: meet against Alabama, that's unbelievable, you know. But think about 574 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Daddy's statis and got some dog int and he's gonna 575 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: get after you. And I think, you know, just you know, 576 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: just being around Joe again, that's going to help him also, 577 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: and as another person that Joe trust, you know, because 578 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: Joe really trust Daddy was your knew that was that 579 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: that was Joe's safety, you know, safety that and he 580 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: had to check him down. He was going to Faddy's 581 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: new Faddis is gonna catch you, you know. So I'm 582 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: proud of days. I'm excited for him, and you know, 583 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm having Joe trying to get the band back together. 584 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: Final question, coach, and I appreciate your time. If you 585 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: pulled Bengals fans right now, I think there's a pretty 586 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: even split. About half of them would like to see 587 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: the team select Pinay Sue, the offensive lineman from Oregon. 588 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: The other half are hoping they'll take Jamar Chase number five. Overall, 589 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: you obviously are not exactly a neutral party here, but 590 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: what would the Bengals be getting if they select Jamar 591 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: Chase with a fifth pick? I think I think you're 592 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: getting the playmaker, a guy that not only can move 593 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: to change, the guy that can get in the end 594 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: zone when he is the red zone. He's a big 595 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: time red zone threat. And I think, um, it's a 596 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: guy Joe Joe play with, you know. And I think 597 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: one thing about quarterbacks, they got to be comfortable with 598 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: the guys that they're around, you know. And these guys 599 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: got chemistry together, You're like, you know, they played together 600 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: for two years, so they kind of can look at 601 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: each other and say, Okay, that's what he's about to do. 602 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: And they trust in each other. And I think one 603 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: thing with you more, you're getting the hell of a player. 604 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: A kid that refused to lose. You know, he refused 605 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: to lose. He never lost in playground, he never lost 606 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: in high school, he never lost in college. So what 607 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: you getting you getting winners, you know, And that's part 608 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: of that's part of any culture. It's about when you 609 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: when you talk about college college programs, and you talk 610 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: about NFL organizations, it's about the culture. You know, in 611 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: the culture here to ell shoot that we win. And 612 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: that's what those kids are gonna bring over that they're 613 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: gonna bring over the attitude like, hey, any means necessarily 614 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: we win in this game. And one thing had LSU 615 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: we always say, focus on winning the game. You know 616 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: a guy there was that sense and they Kevin Carr 617 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: brought that to us. You know what I'm saying that 618 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: hey focused on winning the game. So here the LSU, 619 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: we focus on winning the game. And that's what That's 620 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: what Jamar is gonna bring to the table that he's 621 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: gonna do everything in his power. Don't care if he's 622 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: got to go block a punt, he's gotta run, kicks back, 623 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: whatever he's got to do, he's gonna do to make 624 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: sure his team wins the game. And one thing he 625 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: don't need all the credit. He just gets out there 626 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: and he plays. You know, he's just gonna get out 627 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: there and play. And I would love to see, you 628 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: know what, all those kids back together because I know 629 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: what those I know what that is. I always say 630 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: that's points. You know with Joe Burrow and Daddy, us 631 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: Mars and Jamar and Chase. Maybe you get Terrins down 632 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: the line and you know that's that's points. You know, 633 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: that's points because you know the kids don't They're gonna 634 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: find a way to get open and they're gonna find 635 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: a way to win. Coach outstanding stuff. I can't thank 636 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: you enough, appreciate your time and best of luck this 637 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: year with the Tigers. Thank you, thank you. Good luck 638 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: to you guys in the draft. Previously devoted entire episodes 639 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: of this podcast to Piney Swell and Jamar Chase. Next week, 640 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: it's Kyle Pitt's turn that's going to do it for 641 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you 642 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: by Bud Light Seltzer. Refresh the game. 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