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Speaker 1: It's me Joey f Joe Pi's of Bere with my

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Speaker 1: and Big Pod Energy, mister Wetleg himself Andrew Erickson, and

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Speaker 1: we're here on the Tailgate. Subscribe to the Tailgate greatest

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Speaker 1: This is what we do. We got a great show

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Speaker 1: for you today because today we're gonna debate all the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We're gonna put them in groupings and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna rank him from there. So you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the Ultimate Tailgate list. The fact that just came up

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Speaker 1: with that, God, it's such just a genius Ultimate Tailgate

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Speaker 1: quarterback list. If it goes well, maybe we'll do other positions.

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Speaker 1: If it goes poorly, well we'll never do it again.

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Speaker 1: Chances are, and if there's time, we're gonna play a

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Speaker 1: fun game that the two guys have not played, but

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Speaker 1: I've played. And if we don't have time for it,

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Speaker 1: we'll make a separate video. Who knows, We don't know

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen here. We're just gonna crack up a

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Speaker 1: couple of beers and do the show. I feel like

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Speaker 1: that's what we do here, So, gentlemen, before we get

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Speaker 1: to any of that, just for starters, it's not a

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Speaker 1: headline just for starters. I read something that made me

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Speaker 1: chuckle today, the and owner Woody Johnson are announcing that

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Speaker 1: the team is seriously considering moving to Long Island and

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Speaker 1: rebranding the whole organization. They saw what the Knicks did,

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Speaker 1: they saw how they got uncursed, and they want to

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Speaker 1: get out of the giant situation. They want to get

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Speaker 1: their own stadium. They want to move to Long Island.

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Speaker 1: They want to change the look of the team. Will

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Speaker 1: that be enough, Andrew to change the fortunes of the

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Speaker 1: New York Jets?

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Speaker 2: Maybe? Hope so, because I I've become the Aaron Glen

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Speaker 2: guy on this show. So anything to improve the Jets

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Speaker 2: improvement I'm here for.

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Speaker 1: So. I'm the Daniel Jones guy. You're the Aaron Glenn guy.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make Debro, Andrew, I.

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Speaker 2: Was thinking about this yet. I was thinking about this

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Speaker 2: show is turning us into things that we didn't want

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Speaker 2: or needed to be. No Debro, what are you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? One of the worst versions of ourselves. I can't comment.

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Speaker 1: We're still doing the vision board show. We're still doing that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it's coming. So everybody in the comments,

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Speaker 1: it's things that we've talked about already on the tailgate.

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Speaker 1: I know some of you loving this show, you start

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Speaker 1: dropping some of these things. We'll have to go through

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Speaker 1: the comments and kind of figure out, you know, what

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Speaker 1: we've talked about the most here in the last month, Debro.

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Speaker 1: How about for you? You think I do think that it

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Speaker 1: would be good for the Jets to not play in

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Speaker 1: the Dame Stadium as the giant stuff. I think I

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Speaker 1: think that's a good divorce. What do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think it's fine. I still think they're going nowhere fast.

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Speaker 3: With Woody Johnson at the Helm, I just think he's

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Speaker 1: And then I just something sour.

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Speaker 3: There's something sour about all these teams like asking wanting

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Speaker 3: new stadiums, wanting taxpayers to front the bill, Like are

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Speaker 3: they going to be the damn Connecticut Jets?

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Speaker 1: Like what are we doing here? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like it's like the Bears won't be Chicago Bears anymore,

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Speaker 3: they'll be the Indiana Bears.

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Speaker 1: Like what come on?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Like that?

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Speaker 3: That's the only part where I think this this is

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Speaker 1: Honestly. Yeah, I it's a shame too, because he does

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Speaker 2: They also they can't be the Connecticut They can't be

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start with Group one of the quarterbacks, the

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Speaker 1: franchise guys. Now, this should be pretty easy. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many franchise guys we're gonna end up with here.

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Speaker 1: I would assume Josh Allen is name number one? Is

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Speaker 1: that correct? So I'm gonna be the stenographer here. I

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Speaker 1: we'll rank the guys. So Josh Allen automatic? Correct? Boys, right,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen? Yes? Yeah, all right? So Ericson, giving another

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Speaker 2: You want to add Lamar Jackson Ravens.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. He's one of the

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Speaker 1: m v P no issues. Okay, very good, So Lamar

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Speaker 1: obviously that's another one. Uh, debro Is there another franchise

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Speaker 1: QB you'd like to throw in here? Joe Burrow? Easy,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, I would say, Drake May would you agree? Yep? Agreed?

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Speaker 1: Or Ericson, I know you agree, that's for sure, so

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Speaker 1: true franchise QBS. Now it's gonna get a little dicey

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Speaker 1: here because the question is, you know, for how much longer?

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Speaker 1: What about Jayden Daniels We're gonna call him franchise QB

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Okay, very good. So Jayden Daniels in that grouping. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts has won a Super Bowl I think you have

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Speaker 1: to call him a franchise quarterback, don't you. Ericson, was

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Speaker 1: that a yes from you? Yes? Okay, here's where it's

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Speaker 1: gonna get fun now. Caleb Williams the playoffs last year

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Speaker 1: we have after franchise quarterback is different. It's something to prove, right,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I mean, he's got something to prove,

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Speaker 1: but I also feel like he's kind of the franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Which way do you want to go when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Kile Wins before he start ranking these after.

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Speaker 2: The clump, Well, I think the issue we're going to

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Speaker 2: run into is this the third year quarterbacks, right? So okay,

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Speaker 2: Drake Drake May Again, you could say Drake May still

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Speaker 2: has I mean, does he have something to prove? I mean,

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Speaker 2: he needs to play better than the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: He also got to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jane Daniels got pretty far in the playoffs his

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Speaker 2: first year too, and then he.

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Speaker 1: Got also finished second in the MVP voting. Oh okay, hey,

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Speaker 1: and if Matthew Stafford wasn't Matthew Stafford, he would have

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Speaker 2: I'm not like, I'm not saying that Drake May shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be in the first tear, But what I'm saying is

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Speaker 2: is he going to be treated differently than every other

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Speaker 2: well let's talk.

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Speaker 1: Let's you know what we do. We go on this

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Speaker 1: street and we ask a non Patriot fan, so so, debro, debro?

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Speaker 1: Are we being uh, you know, too kind to Drake

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I think we're the skepticism around. And I

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Speaker 3: know everybody thinks of a cable Caleb Williams hater and stuff,

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Speaker 3: but I think the skepticism is fair around Caleb. Drake

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Speaker 3: May is an unquestioned franchise, franchise quarterback. I still think

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams has something to prove, Like Supersedon are still there?

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Speaker 2: I think that. But then I could also with Jane Daniels,

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Speaker 2: can can we stay healthy for more than one season? Please?

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Speaker 2: Like that?

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 3: I think you could play the health game with every

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Speaker 3: quarterback in the NFL. They're all playing a glass right.

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Speaker 2: But no, but he entered the NFL with like that

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Speaker 1: Was seeing his rookie season.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but that's what I'm not saying. He's down at

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Speaker 2: the bottom. But what I'm saying is does he needs

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Speaker 2: something to prove as well?

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the year first year two in the same

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Speaker 2: So that's fair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hell, I feel like getting to I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to say health is something to prove. I'm not putting

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to a point where Daniel's

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Speaker 1: Starting to feel like that that.

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Speaker 2: That's fine with me, all right, all right.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's keep let's keep pilot names until we stop,

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Speaker 1: all right. Patrick Mahomes clearly franchised quarterback. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to leave Paty Mahlomes out right, so we'll put him in. Again.

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Speaker 1: This is not fantasy, folks, this is real football. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna order all these guys in that in that vein.

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Speaker 1: So Patrick Mahomes clearly franchised quarterback, justin Herbert franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, I even though he does have something

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Speaker 2: to prove that he has.

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Speaker 1: Something to prove, but he is a franchise quarterback. Clear

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Speaker 1: that was actually easier than I thought it was going

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Speaker 1: to be. I thought there would be more of a

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Speaker 1: debate on Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's the one, like I don't I just

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Speaker 2: I'm a Justin Well, don't a big fan Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Just hes gon toss me names because I'm going down

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Speaker 1: the list here. Toss me name. We get on the

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Speaker 1: whole program, the whole show, offline. If you do that.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence franchise quarterback. I thought he's MVP. Andrew, Yes, MVP.

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Speaker 1: He's got something to prove. I tend to agree something

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Speaker 1: to prove ericson something approves franchise.

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Speaker 3: I've not seen an elite version of t law for

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Speaker 3: the entirety of one season.

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Speaker 1: So happened.

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Speaker 2: So how so then, how are we gonna Why are

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Speaker 2: we gonna put Justin Herbert then ahead of Lawrence when

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Speaker 2: they both have not done anything in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I think, statistically speaking, Justin Herbert's that's far more impressive.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy through the five thousands had a couple

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Speaker 1: four thousand yard seasons.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, we are very pro Dak Prescott on

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Speaker 2: So if he just wins one super Bowl instead of losing,

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Speaker 1: All right, so we can play this game, we can

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Speaker 2: Franchise quarterback Rock Party.

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Speaker 1: Yes, eat it. Joe, I hate you guys.

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Speaker 1: Now we got to some dicey names here, bow Knicks,

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Speaker 3: I think franchise quarterback too. I think he's got more

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Speaker 2: I think jordans something to prove.

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Speaker 1: I think no. I want I think something improved. All right,

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Speaker 1: So let's stop here. Otherwise, every wise everyone's a franchise

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that today. I don't want

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Speaker 1: the guys we have. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Drake May,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Matthew Stafford brock Perty you see them in

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is one, right, if you're starting an NFL franchise,

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Speaker 3: To be honest, Mahomes has been multiple super one of

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Speaker 1: Like he is. He has also gone from a guy

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Speaker 1: Horrible they full stop, all right, But what about clutch

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Speaker 3: In real life football, which in Lamar's issues in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: How many times is Lamar one heavy? I'm losing track?

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Speaker 1: I'm not starting the franchise. I'm playing this year. This

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Speaker 1: You want Lamar? All right? I want Drake May. See

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Speaker 1: him party, It's hurts him Purty because I feel like

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Speaker 1: that's really really disrespectful to a guy that's won a

432
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Speaker 1: super Bowl and been doing more than one.

433
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Speaker 3: I mean, dude, Hurts just shows up in these big games. Dude,

434
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 3: he plays out of his mind.

435
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Speaker 1: Ericson, you're good with that. You seem like there's somebody

436
00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 1: else that we forgot. Oh, I'm not.

437
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 2: I'm not going to put disrespeck on San Donald. He

438
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 2: killed my team in the super Bowl.

439
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 1: It's fine, No, no, no, no. Ericson's got a point here, Donald,

440
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 1: What else does he have to prove?

441
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 3: You're getting over It's been two years. I was a

442
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 3: big come on after the vikings here. I cannot be

443
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 3: dismissive after a Super Bowl ring and what he did

444
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 3: in Seattle.

445
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

446
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: It's been how many how many games has he won

447
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,719
Speaker 2: the last two seasons? Ricks Crush absolutely right about this.

448
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: Deal Ericson, go ahead, He's got to at least be

449
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 2: in his tier, even if he's at the bottom. I

450
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: don't care.

451
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: I've got to be magic here. Just hrub your head,

452
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 1: same thing, same same deal. How much longer can I

453
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 1: tolerate these two people saying crazy things around me?

454
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Speaker 2: It's not crazy you for long?

455
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Speaker 1: Not for long Erickson and I can make a really

456
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Speaker 1: beautiful lists.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah you want Sam Donald in here, right, So we said, yeah,

458
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 2: he's in.

459
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: So you're putting Sam Darnald over Caleb Williams. Caleb pass

460
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 1: rate over expectation last year.

461
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 2: Again, we all expect Caleb to take a big lead

462
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: this year, and we're talking about this in twenty twenty seven,

463
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 2: Caleb will probably be ahead off Sam Donald. I'm fine

464
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: with that. But for right now, like Donald were done

465
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 2: the last two seasons.

466
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Speaker 3: Caleb does all the cool offscript stuff. Could play a

467
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Speaker 3: freaking five yard out route. Caleb, with consistency, show me that.

468
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: All right, Well, here are your top twelve quarterbacks, your

469
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Speaker 1: franchise guys, according to the Tailgate Collective I want to

470
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Speaker 1: stress Collective. Josh Allen number one, Drake May number two,

471
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes three, Lamar Jackson four, Joe Burrow five Matthew

472
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Speaker 1: Stafford six. Then you have Justin Herbert Dak Prescott, Jaden Daniels,

473
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Speaker 1: Jalen hurts Brock. Party. That's Sam Donald. I want to

474
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Speaker 1: make what amendment Donald should be over? Party? Oh do

475
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: we disagree? Well, if you're gonna do it, you might

476
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: as well go boss in the wall and just do

477
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: it away.

478
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: I mean seriously, like Darnold has a ring, he's done.

479
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 3: I've done this for multiple years, playoffs.

480
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Speaker 1: That's the only thing. Now. Now I'm happier because at

481
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 1: least I still got to somehow got pretty knocked down

482
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Speaker 1: another peg. You're really happy. This is why democracy works,

483
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 1: because compromises about everybody being miserable. And I think this

484
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: is good. This is good. We're all simultaneously content but unhappy,

485
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: and that's that's important. I think in this in this

486
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Speaker 1: vein all right, So there you go, everybody, there's Those

487
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Speaker 1: are your franchise quarterbacks. I can't wait to see the

488
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Speaker 1: comment section in this. I can't wait to see what

489
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Speaker 1: everybody has to say about it. Interesting.

490
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Speaker 2: We're a healthy bone nicks away from being very very

491
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Speaker 2: very wrong here because there's no bone nicks, which that's fair,

492
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 2: not but necessarily well, I struggle with your third year

493
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: quarterbacks because if bone Nicks beats the Patriot and he

494
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: goes to Super Bowl instead, so.

495
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: What if he what? He didn't He wasn't out there,

496
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: so who knows well? Plus the volatility of his second season, man,

497
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: like we need to see in the third year. Are

498
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: we gonna get more consistently like the rookie year bo Nicks?

499
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Speaker 3: Or are we gonna get hair on fire like down

500
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Speaker 3: to down? Are you Will Levis or are you a

501
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 3: damn good quarterback? Who the hell knows? At a bow Nick?

502
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Speaker 1: So I think he's got something to prove for Cardles.

503
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 1: I like this. This is a good old fashioned bar debate.

504
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: This is good times. Well, this is this is good.

505
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: I like the disrespect to Jared Golf here is real though,

506
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 3: Like what I damn man?

507
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean love. So that's the thing. It's

508
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: like party doesn't have something to prove, but Jared Goff does.

509
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: Like what's the context of that then, because Jared Goff

510
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: has been to a super Bowl and loss brock Perry's

511
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: been to a Super Bowl and loss brock Perry's put

512
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,479
Speaker 1: up numbers. Jared Goff's put up numbers.

513
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Speaker 3: I said, Golf should be in the franchise, guys, I mean,

514
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Speaker 3: you're not fighting with me.

515
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Speaker 1: See, I think Party should be where golf is in

516
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: the other tier. I think I think you take pretty off.

517
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: You put him closer to golf if it's if it's

518
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: about winning and reaching the ultimate pinnacle playing quarterback. But

519
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: the difference is you're talking about into the spectrum, talking

520
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: about one guy take at the very front of a draft,

521
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: and the one guy taken literally the last big of

522
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: a draft too. So in terms of equity, that's also

523
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Speaker 1: really interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what do you think would Andrew would

525
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Speaker 2: you think?

526
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

527
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: I mean I get like, I mean, I think that

528
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: he's probably closer to golf and love than Again. Again,

529
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Speaker 2: the thing that's getting me hung up is Herbert because

530
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: he still has not done the playoffs, so like that's

531
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: like what again, he hasn't had like the coach and

532
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: I think right now this year he does have that combination.

533
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: But because I don't want to move golf in love up,

534
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: so again we added Darnold. So if we have to

535
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Speaker 2: knock down Party, I guess I'm okay with that.

536
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: I'm not.

537
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Speaker 3: I think Herbert's situation has failed him more consistently than

538
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 3: than the actual.

539
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: Allan and his play level. Uh speak to.

540
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Speaker 3: I think things have fallen apart around him consistently in

541
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: so many years that it has really stifled what he's

542
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: been able to do.

543
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Speaker 1: I have a tougher grade when it comes to franchise

544
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Speaker 1: and throwing that tag on somebody. I think I'd rather

545
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: knock Purty down into the golf group than move golf

546
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Speaker 1: up to the party group. I'm gonna prove it. I'm

547
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Speaker 1: gonna prove it, world.

548
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: What do you think more selective than yeah.

549
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: It? No? Come on, we're knocking party down.

550
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: Serious, dude, Eric, We had to give Sam donald as

551
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 2: a flowers what it cost you?

552
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: Everything? Everything cost of this rock party? All right? So

553
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: here's what we got so far in the something to

554
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: Prove group? All right, let's give him something to talk about.

555
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: Group two Rock Party. Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence, Jackson, Dart Bownecks,

556
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Speaker 1: Jared got Off, Jordan Love, Baker Mayfield, Tyler Shuck. Who

557
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: else should be in this grouping? Would you want to

558
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: put Kyler Murray in the Something Improved group? No? Kyler

559
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: Murray is mak a break?

560
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah's way, you know, he's farther down. I would add cam.

561
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: Ward, Fernando Mendoza and cam Ward okay something.

562
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Speaker 2: Because I think those those guys have the tools to

563
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: be there, is.

564
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: In here than he they should be in at Yeah, yeah.

565
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: I agree, I would put I mean, yeah, all right.

566
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: So cam Ward is in there, Tyler Shuck is in there,

567
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: just trying to look through. It feels about right to me,

568
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: unless you want to put Daniel Jones in there or

569
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young.

570
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: No, that's I think that's break.

571
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: You're not getting Daniel Jones into this tier. You're not.

572
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Speaker 3: I think Stroud is make or break to make or

573
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Speaker 3: break too.

574
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Speaker 1: All right, okay, so are we happy with this next group?

575
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Speaker 2: And let me see.

576
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Speaker 3: We're not missing anybody. Let's go through names we've left out.

577
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: I'll ruggle off the rest of the names here that

578
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: we have not talked about, that you haven't mentioned at all.

579
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett, Geno Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Michael Pennix, and it's

580
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: starting to buy a Lois Door Sanders. I think we're

581
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: good boys.

582
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Speaker 2: I would say I think that. I think Baker Mayfields

583
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: and make or break.

584
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: Something to prove.

585
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: I think it's more make or break. He doesn't have

586
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: a He's not under contract next year with the Buccaneers.

587
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 2: He needs a new contract to prove. If he plays

588
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: bad this year, what team is he on next year?

589
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: He's going to be over.

590
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: Thirty Arnold type of contract he's gonna get like three

591
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: or four.

592
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: He doesn't have the commitment from his own team right now,

593
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: like you want to do contract and they're like.

594
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: So, I gotta say. I don't think the Buckaneers let

595
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: him walk. I'd be very surprised if we don't get

596
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: a trading camp and to get signed. I think I

597
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: understand where you're coming from, Andrew, But considering the landscape,

598
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: I think he's much more of a something to prove

599
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: with franchise ability than he is because I mean, I

600
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: can't put him in something to prove with franchise ability,

601
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: and you know, or I can't take him out and

602
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: put Jackson Dart in there over him, you know what

603
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, there's just so much more. Yes, I

604
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: think Mayfield has so much less. I feel you, dog,

605
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: I get where you're coming from, but I don't want

606
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: I think it's being a little hyperbolic, all right, So

607
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: is brock Purty the best of something to prove or

608
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams or Trevor Lawrence. I want to see how

609
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: far I can knock Brock Party down this list. This

610
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: has been great. I mean t law or Jared Golf.

611
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: For me, who's the best of the next? That's really

612
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: the question? The best of the next? Here, Purdy, Williams,

613
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: Lawrence or God hold up?

614
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: I actually think that the conversation should between te law

615
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: and Jordan Love.

616
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I moved up.

617
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: See I'm less of a Jordan Love guy good the second.

618
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: He was the second in e paper drop last year.

619
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: Like they just don't want him cook. I was gonna say,

620
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: and his receivers are hurt all the time.

621
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: That's fair, but you know, uh some other years and

622
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: he's made the most of it. So we gotta we

623
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: gotta pair it down. Something to prove. But you're willing

624
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: as an organization to say, I think this guy has

625
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: the least amount to prove. I think that's the only

626
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: way we can judge this group, because how else can

627
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: we judge something to prove? It's like, I think he

628
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: is close enough. Who is the closest to being a

629
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? Who has the least amount to prove?

630
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean win a Super Bowl. Got he's gotten paid,

631
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: like he's done everything else. Send him with golf.

632
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: So let's give some respect to brock Purty. Let's put

633
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: him one in this grouping Jared Goff too. Can I

634
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: get an amen on that? Amen? Okay? Then that puts

635
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams Trevor Lawrence in this next group with Jordan Love.

636
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: I think it's love and then t law For me Andrew,

637
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: we've seen a longer sample of love being really freaking good.

638
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: Then we have t law Sure that's fine, So Andrew

639
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: and deebro agree. Jordan Love, then Trevor Lawrence. Is Caleb

640
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: Williams the next guy? Or do you think Baker Mayfield

641
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: is closer?

642
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: Who's who's done more? Yeah? Bonick or Caleb Williams through

643
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: two years? I mean bo, I mean Williams. Get I

644
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: get the rookieyears of wash.

645
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: The rookie is so bad because of the coaching staff.

646
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 4: It's Bonix said that like you're you took a toms

647
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: in the middle of it, like there was an ant

648
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Speaker 4: acid that popped into your mouth in the.

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Speaker 1: Middle of the words Bow and Nix that was so

650
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Speaker 1: painful for you. And I appreciate it that you're willing

651
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Speaker 1: to share that kind of vulnerability here on the show, Debro,

652
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Speaker 1: I think that goes a very long way to the audience.

653
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Speaker 2: It's really I just I just don't want to disrespect

654
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Speaker 2: bone X because like he's been really good for two years. Again,

655
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Speaker 2: like it's not it hasn't been perfect, and I guess

656
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Speaker 2: being Sean Payton is he had a better landing than

657
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Speaker 2: some of the other rookie quarterbacks from his class. But

658
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Speaker 2: I mean it's won a lot of games, been productive.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Remember this is for one year, so we're

660
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Speaker 1: not talking about like we're talking about franchise twenty twenty six.

661
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Speaker 1: We're trying to like it's a it's a redraft of

662
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Speaker 1: the NFL for one year. I think that's the best

663
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Speaker 1: way to always look at this because you always say

664
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Speaker 1: projectability and all that stuff, but that's too hard to gate.

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Speaker 1: So I think with that context, after Caleb Williams, Baker

666
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Speaker 1: Mayfield has to be next. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like then there's like a mini

668
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: tier break already between Dart Shock Mendoza Award. They're kind

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Speaker 2: of like in their own mini tier. At least, that's

670
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Speaker 2: all that kind of view because they're all either again

671
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Speaker 2: rookie and then year two guys that you know showed

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Speaker 2: I think during their rookie seasons. Okay, there's a little

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Speaker 2: I mean probably camp can't word obviously showed the least

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Speaker 2: them out. But we just talked about it with some

675
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Speaker 2: of these other or third year quarterbacks. I mean, Caleb

676
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Speaker 2: like got to throw out the first year. Even Drake

677
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 2: May's first year was really rough at points because of

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Speaker 2: the offensive infrastructure for him. Him and to me, that's

679
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Speaker 2: kind of Cameron Campmore could obviously if he face plants

680
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: again with day ball with Carnel Tait, then it's like okay,

681
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: now it's make or break right, and then he moves

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Speaker 2: down to you when we do the show in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, Shuck has shown you the most, so I think

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Speaker 1: we got to put him there. I think, no more

686
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Speaker 1: than over Shuck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah really yeah, I started more games and he was

688
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Speaker 3: consistently good for shocking.

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Speaker 2: Shuck is also almost twenty seven years old, and so

690
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: like he's had more time to play so experience and

691
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Speaker 2: I wish which.

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Speaker 3: I mean Shuck, we only have like the proof of

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Speaker 3: concept in like weeks twelve through eighteen Dart, he eclipsed him,

694
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Speaker 3: and games start like you could pile up numbers together,

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Speaker 3: I think, and not even talking about rushing and.

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00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: Off script ability Dart, it started to talking about intangibles

697
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Speaker 1: and the recklessness of which Jackson Dark plays. So I understand,

698
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Speaker 1: and I've always been a guy that supported the Jackson

699
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Speaker 1: Dart love. But in terms of like my franchise quarterbacks,

700
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Speaker 1: some of the recklessness of Jackson Art does worry me

701
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Speaker 1: that I would probably feel a little bit more warm

702
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Speaker 1: and fuzzy about Tyler Schuck. Well, draft Joe, we are,

703
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: but it's not just about all the frills. It's also

704
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Speaker 1: about the actuals.

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Speaker 2: Shuck has a long lineage of injuries in college. He

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Speaker 2: was we're gonna play with the start is plays reckless?

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Speaker 2: I mean Shuck, I mean he was healthy and he

708
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Speaker 2: played half a season last year. He even played a

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Speaker 2: full year.

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Speaker 1: So were you putting Shuck above Mendoz in Ward?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because Mendoz is a rookie, so we have

712
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Speaker 2: and Shuck was better than Ward last year.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Shuck waska handly better than Ward. So let's talk

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Speaker 3: about all right, let's talk about Mendoza Award.

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Speaker 2: Then I think it's just a matter of if they

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Speaker 2: were drafted in the same if they were both in

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Speaker 2: this year's class, who had gone first overall and then

718
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Speaker 2: Mendoz So that's why he should be on spot.

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Speaker 1: At I agree, all right, yep, that one that was

720
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Speaker 1: much easier. See, franchise is always hard to fight over.

721
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Speaker 1: But yeah, sure, well I miss s accomplished brock perties

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Speaker 1: in Tier two. I'm a happy camper. So the quarterbacks

723
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Speaker 1: with something to prove hate this man. I don't hate

724
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: this man. I just think he gets a little bit

725
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: too much love.

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Speaker 2: I mean man, if it was if we could go

727
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Speaker 2: back to the top list, I would cut off more

728
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Speaker 2: guys from the first tier and move them.

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Speaker 1: Who would you cut tier?

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Speaker 2: If I was being more strict, I would cut off

731
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Speaker 2: I probably have to cut off. I mean Daniels again,

732
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: the guy hit one good season, one bad season with injuries.

733
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Speaker 2: Herbert maybe because again he hasn't done in the playoffs yet.

734
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Speaker 2: I mean Dak. We'd like to see Dak with a

735
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Speaker 2: playff games too, right, like a lot of To tell.

736
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Speaker 1: You the truth, if you told me the elite group

737
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: stops at Stafford, I'm okay. With something to prove everybody

738
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: else moving down a notch. You want to make the

739
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Speaker 1: specials more special. I'm not against that, would you? But

740
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Speaker 1: de Bro, do you want to make a massive move.

741
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: Do you want to make a massive cutting in half?

742
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Speaker 1: No? I think we're going to like I think these guys.

743
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Speaker 1: I think we agree though that there is a tier

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00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: a group.

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00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: Put the tier break then, but I think we agree the.

746
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Speaker 1: Tier is Alan May, Mahomes, Jackson Burrough, Stafford Tiers. Yep.

747
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Speaker 1: Those are the those are the those are the best

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in football. Then you've got the guys that we

749
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Speaker 1: think could be that group, Herbert Prescott, Daniels, Hurts, Donald, Yep,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that. Let the record show, let the

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Speaker 1: jury see. And I still disagree with that. I love

752
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: that you got your way with rock Party, but you're

753
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: having to absolutely eat it on Sam Donald. Wait, that's

754
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: just the comments. YouTube comments are gonna be amazing for

755
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: this show. Oh, Seattle came for a select when we

756
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: preview that division. I don't know if you saw. I

757
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: saw will be happy with this all right, but they

758
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: always feel like they get disrespected.

759
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: You know, they are there continuing to be disrespected by

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Speaker 3: you with this show.

761
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Speaker 2: So we are breaking up the first, we're breaking up

762
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Speaker 2: the first tier and half.

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Speaker 1: I think I think put a caveat in there.

764
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Speaker 2: I guess again, before we sign off of this part,

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Speaker 2: I guess, does anybody think that you would take Herbert Prescott, Daniels, Hurts,

766
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Speaker 2: Donald over any of those top six guys in any scenario.

767
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Speaker 2: If you don't, then then it isn't your break.

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Speaker 1: It would not take anybody for this year over Matthew

769
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: Stafford in that tier. Yeah, so then we have it's

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, and I think I think as

771
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Speaker 1: you're looking at is Josh Allen's Hall of Famer, Patrick

772
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes the Hall of Famer, Lamar Jackson's Hall of Famer,

773
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's Hall of Famer. Joe Burrow has a Hall

774
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: of Fame potential, and Drake May has Hall of Fame potential.

775
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: Herbert Prescott, Daniels, Hurts, and Donald I think all are

776
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Speaker 1: farther away from that hall of fame. I would also

777
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Speaker 1: say Hurts maybe being the closest because of his resume,

778
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: but still a little waste to go.

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00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm cool with this.

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00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: It's cool with that. Cool all right. So here's just

781
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: something to prove. List at the top rock Party, Jared Goff,

782
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence, bo Nicks, Caleb Williams, Baker, Mayfield,

783
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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, Tyler Schuck, Fernando Mendoza, and Camboard. I approve

784
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: this message. I like this. I feel like this is good.

785
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Speaker 2: Right, quarterbacks? Have we ranked? Now? Jeered?

786
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: You count while I look at the next grouping a lot.

787
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: I think we've hit a lot. So we've hit at

788
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: least twenty something here, so we'll get that number out

789
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: to you.

790
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: Two twenty two total.

791
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: All right, so now we don't have we have ten

792
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: left sort of. Maybe we got some situation. Ship is

793
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: what we got. Let's talk about the make or Break guys.

794
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: All right, So let's start with some of the guys

795
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: we've glossed over in terms of ranks. Kyler Murray's Make

796
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: or Break I think that is the ultimate maker break.

797
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: We would agree, Yes, okay, Debro, who else would you

798
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: like to put into the Maker break? Toss me Some.

799
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: Names were Daniel Jones slowly good lord, I mean maker

800
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: break names like you're in school right now?

801
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean I did, I did my prep.

802
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: I knew the name.

803
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: That was the point is we said this show would

804
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: be no prep We'll still be trying to figure out

805
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: what we were doing. Yeah, but that's the fun of

806
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 1: this show, is I like, I.

807
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 2: Like still be behind the scenes trying to figure out

808
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: what are we doing with this show?

809
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: All right? We're trying to show people the sausages made,

810
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: but the kitchen is on fire right now. It's absolutely

811
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: that should be the new like tagline of the show.

812
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: Why show you how the sausages day, but the kitchen's

813
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: on fire? All right? So, Andrew, I'll ask you, because

814
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: you're more prepared, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, c J. Stroud?

815
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: Who else is in the Make or Break group?

816
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones?

817
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, You're going to get him into the something

818
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: to prove you know he's not.

819
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: Borrow Matthew Stafford, Daniel Jones, Right.

820
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: Shut up? Who else? And I think that's it? I

821
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: mean maybe not. I mean.

822
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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. No, no, I mean he's already broke, He's

823
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: already Okay. I was just kind of I.

824
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: So now the question, So, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, c J. Stroud,

825
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, who do you think if you had to

826
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: play football this year and be the general manager that

827
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: you would select for your team? To go out there

828
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: and compete with the context of health and everything going on.

829
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Andrewroud Stroud Deebra also says Stroud, I know you want

830
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: to say Kyler, You're not getting Kyler. Actually no, I

831
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: wanted to say Daniel Jones. But that's of course you did.

832
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: Of course you did QB five after. I know it's

833
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: not a fantasy show, but I feel like we're just

834
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: grossly disrespected.

835
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Speaker 2: I like the Jones versus Kyler combo the most.

836
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Speaker 1: I think, Well, I'll put I mean, if you ask his.

837
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Speaker 2: Last yes, so I'll.

838
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: Take Jones over Murray. It's up to you two. Now, sure, yeah,

839
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Speaker 1: I'll do that because.

840
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: It actually doesn't matter. I can give you a really okay, Well,

841
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: I know you hate Kyler Murray. You pick Kyler Murray

842
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: to win the division, but you like Daniel Jones. So

843
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: why Daniel Jones You just love him more than Kyler.

844
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: I love them both. If you're asking me in terms

845
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 1: of like what I saw most recently of them playing

846
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, Kyler Murray's arrow has been going down

847
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, whereas Daniel Jones arrow most

848
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: recently was going up. I saw a version of Daniel

849
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: Jones that I didn't think was possible, that was the

850
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: number one seed in the AFC, that was playing good football,

851
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: that he looked very comfortable in an offense. And Kyler

852
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: Murray was a version that I see. Like he's a

853
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: smaller quarterback. He is a guy going in the wrong direction.

854
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: He has had attitude issues and things like that that

855
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: have happened to So I'm talking about leadership. I'm talking

856
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: about like all again, this is about intangibles just as

857
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: much as about all the stats. And I think intangibles.

858
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: I feel better about Daniel Jones than I do about

859
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. But it doesn't mean I hate on Kyler

860
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: Murray either injuries last year, injury, an injury. Thing about Kyler.

861
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: Murray is he is a system limiting quarterback because of

862
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: his height and his play style. He is going to

863
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: limit what you're able to do and what you can't

864
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: do offensively. And so for that reason alone, Daniel Jones

865
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: should go ahead of him.

866
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: All right, So and we and yet it's funny because

867
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: Bryce Young made the playoffs last year and Bryce Young

868
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: is still there. Well, Dave Canalis made the playoffs last year.

869
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: Let's keep it a buck here, Bryce Young didn't. That's fine,

870
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: that's fine. Did anyone want to put Malik Willis in

871
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: this grouping? Because I, oh, yeah, no, he deserves to

872
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: be make a break. Do you think he's make a

873
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: break or by I'll put Malik Willis over Bryce Shung too.

874
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: I think that's unfair to Bryce Young. I'm fair at all?

875
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: Right? What is Bryce? I think? I think Milk Willis.

876
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: I think I think he could really surprise again, like

877
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: he's got nothing to work with, but which means any

878
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: credit the offense does anything, well, he's going to get

879
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: all the credit in the world. He's twenty seven years old.

880
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: This is the typically the year where quarterbacks enter their prime.

881
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: I was actually looking at for a betting pro show

882
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: that we're doing later. The average age of an MVP

883
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: winning quarterback is twenty seven. And there's a couple of

884
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: guys this year that are going to be entering the

885
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: year twenty seven. One of them is Milik Willis.

886
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, I think that's being disrespectful

887
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: to a guy that was a guy that played at Alabama,

888
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: the guy that's a smart kid. He's certainly has his

889
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: limitations in terms of the size. But so you want

890
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: to write to a limiting quarterback.

891
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: Bryce Shung is a limiting quarterback because of his size

892
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: and his hight.

893
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: And it is most spectacular about what you've seen from

894
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: Malik Willis on the playing field from Liberty onto Green Bay.

895
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: That was so stunning that you feel so much better

896
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: about winning games. Your job is on the line as

897
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: an NFL GM, and you're gonna put in the hands

898
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: of Malik Willis over Bryce Younger. I find that hard

899
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: to believe. It shouldn't be hard to believe, but here

900
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: we are. It shouldn't be shouldn't be hard to believe.

901
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: My minority here is that what happened? Again?

902
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: Would you how much would you like Malik Willison fantasy

903
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: he was on the Panthers.

904
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: A lot more? You would not? I would you like

905
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: a lot more?

906
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, hold on, let me give some context here.

907
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: So Malik Willis, with the small playing sample size one

908
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen dropbacks of the last two years, he

909
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: has a five point six percent big time throw rate.

910
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: He has ten point nine yards per attempt.

911
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: Big time throw rate feels like something from like a

912
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: video game from the nineties. Like that is like the most.

913
00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: Importantextualizing players, the NBA jam that throws special.

914
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, dismiss it all you want to.

915
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: The best quarterbacks in the freaking league are near the

916
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 3: top of this list, every single freak.

917
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't matter what I think. All that matters

918
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: is with Andrew thinks right now? Would you take Will

919
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: over Bryce Young? And this this isn't even a real conversation.

920
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: Twenty six or get out of here?

921
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: So here you go, everybody. CJ's Droud, Daniel Jones, Kyler,

922
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: Murray Malik, Willis, Bryce Young or Bryce Young just no respect. Yeah,

923
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: you franchise Rams. Last year, the Rams beat themselves. Let's

924
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: be honest about that. All right, let's talk about bottom

925
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: of the barrel. Andrew, you tell me who I've missed here,

926
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: Gino Smith to a tongue of Iolois, Door Sanders, Deshaun Watson,

927
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix, Aaron Rodgers, Jacoby Brissette. I don't know if

928
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: you want to get into the backup guys here. I

929
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: didn't feel like that was necessary to.

930
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: Do Cousins in here too because it starts games this year.

931
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, so Kirk Cousins I'll put in this year.

932
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: Is there anybody else you want to put keep.

933
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: Let's just keep the teams. Let's just keep the teams

934
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: in like so, just keep the Falcons quarterback, Jets, Brown, Steelers,

935
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: Cardinals quarterbacks. I don't think we need to add Kirk Cousins.

936
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, all right, barrel, bottom of the barrel. You

937
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: gotta win a game. Who do you want from this list?

938
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: That's what this is about.

939
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: Now, Uh, Geno Smith, de Bro?

940
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: I mean you still have Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers.

941
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna make me say Aaron Rodgers. You're gonna refuse

942
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: to say it, say Aaron Rodgers. I'm gonna shock everybody.

943
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: I also think it's Aaron Rodgers. It's Aaron Rodgers. Aaron

944
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers are the best of the worst. Congratulations you did it, kid,

945
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: you did it. Way to go? All right? So do

946
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: you want to say Geno next? Or two? And next?

947
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: De Bro? Because I know where I know what Andrew

948
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: wants to say? All right, So who's next? Tua or

949
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: Shadoor or Michael Pennix or Jacoby Brissett or dare I

950
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: say Deshaun Watson. I'll take Tua, Andrew, I'll take all right,

951
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: Tua's next, then you have the Browns guys left and Watson,

952
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: you have Michael Pennox, you got Jacoby Brissett, and you

953
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: got Kirk Cousins. I'll take Shador, I'll take Panis. Oh

954
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: I get the tie break. Oh this is so good.

955
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: Not in on Penis as a prospect. I don't think

956
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: he's shown anything in the NFL.

957
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: Who did you take Andrew? You took Pennix?

958
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

959
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: Mmm, this is tough. I hate agreeing with Derek, but

960
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be Sanders for me. So we'll

961
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: put Pennix next, because I do think it's closed. And

962
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: then you've got Deshaun Cousins and Brissette. I'm gonna putrisettst

963
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: right behind Penis, no no respect. I mean, honestly, I

964
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: would have put Pett over Pennick, but I don't think

965
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 1: I could sell you guys on that could I mean.

966
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: To throw the ball sixty times. I'm sure that he

967
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: could get some garbage time production too.

968
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: But doesn't one have to earn that allowance? Sometimes? Perhaps

969
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: Jacoby has earned that allowance of Michael Pennix did not

970
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: earned his allowance. You know, you gotta make your bed

971
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: in the morning. You gotta do something.

972
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael Pennix can't play but pistol. So you know,

973
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: it is what it is.

974
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: So who's the worst of the worst? Is that Deshaun

975
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: Watson or Kirk Cousins. Sean Watson is DeShawn Watson easy

976
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: to Shaan Watson? Yeah, Andrew, we're talking about intangibles. I

977
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: don't want to creep azoid on my freaking roster, all right.

978
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: So there you have it, the worst of the worst,

979
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: with the best of the worst being Aaron Rodgers, Gino

980
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: Smith to a tongue of violo is Shador Sanders, Michael Pennock,

981
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: Jacoby Wessette, Kirk Cousins, and Deshaun Watson. So there you go.

982
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: That is the definitive Tailgate quarterback rankings for twenty twenty six.

983
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: Who we would want to go to battle with in

984
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. I cannot wait to hear the comments and

985
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: read them in this section. This is what's fun about

986
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: debortion and fans stand up. Let this man party all

987
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: the stand back. I saw you Seahawks fans. Yeah, let

988
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: this man know. But you know you played that game

989
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: with me where you dropped You said, well, if leak

990
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: willis played for them, would you like him more? I

991
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: mean I could do the same thing. If if you

992
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: dropped in Baker Mayfield to the forty nine ers, wouldn't

993
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: he be above Rock Party? I feel like you would be.

994
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield is a better quarterback than them

995
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: for short kings. Hell yeah, I am. If I don't,

996
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: who will Andrew? Do you disagree? Do you think of

997
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has been playing with the forty nine ers

998
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: and he's stuck around there for a couple of years,

999
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: that he would not have been as prolific, if not

1000
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: better than Brock Purty.

1001
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: I think it would probably been pretty simple. I mean

1002
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: Rock Purty was, I mean, both of them would throw

1003
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: a ton touchdowns. I think would probably pretty similar.

1004
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: Version of Baker. Are you getting good Baker or injured

1005
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 3: and bad Baker?

1006
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm talking about just healthy because brock Purty

1007
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: has been hurt too. Well. Brock Purty healthy has been

1008
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: really damn good too. I could a healthy Baker Mayfield,

1009
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: So it's x that out just same.

1010
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: Just say, I don't know. I think I think I

1011
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: like our list overall. I'm glad that we went back

1012
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 2: and made this small tweak because I felt like the top.

1013
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: Guys really needed to be their own. I feel like

1014
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: we're including too many guys in the very tippy top.

1015
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: Somebody will change that.

1016
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: We give caveats. That's good. Look, this is we're doing

1017
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: the Lord's work here on the program. This isn't easy.

1018
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: We can't just sit here for an hour and debate

1019
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and and.

1020
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: Just we need an hour. We need it under fifty minutes.

1021
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: Maybe we did.

1022
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: We did, and now something completely different. Let's play a game, everybody.

1023
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: It's time for a little tailgate gameplay. We're gonna play

1024
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: a little seventeen. And oh and the guys don't really

1025
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,959
Speaker 1: understand this game, which is great. They haven't really looked

1026
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: for it yet. So this is how it works. We

1027
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: shuffle around, right, and you play a game. And how

1028
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: this works is you have a quarterback, a running back,

1029
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, a tight end, a defense, and the

1030
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: head coach. You've got to pick whatever from whatever team

1031
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: it comes up. When the spin the wheel, something from

1032
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: one of that selected team into one of these spots.

1033
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: Does that make sense, Derek, that I explained it easy enough.

1034
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: For you to understand and for everybody just behind the

1035
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 3: curtain again, the kitchen's on fire ericson and I have

1036
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 3: not played this game before. I'm learning this in real

1037
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: time about what we are doing, so I'm sure no problems.

1038
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: This is going to go fantastically. In the comments, I

1039
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: will not cover me at all. If you would like,

1040
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: I can go to do one first, then you can

1041
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: each do your own individual.

1042
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: No no no no no no no no no no.

1043
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the chaos. It does grade you at

1044
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 1: the end, and it tells you if that team would

1045
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: go fifteen and two or seventeen and oh, or what

1046
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: that team might go. So I think the winner of

1047
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: this game this round, the first time we're ever doing this,

1048
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: whoever gets the best record wins. Can Can we all

1049
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: agree it's a very similar way to do this, Yes, yep,

1050
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: all right? So which one of you y'ahoo? Derek seems

1051
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: to be very much wanted to go first, Andrew do you?

1052
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: So we're not doing this together, no, no one at

1053
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: a time. We're going individual matter. Okay, all right?

1054
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you now ready? Ready? All right? So?

1055
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,479
Speaker 1: Do you want to give the ball here to Derek

1056
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: Brown to start, because it feels like he very much

1057
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: wants to jump in with I got speed and like Joey.

1058
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: So we're gonna play a new game. Here we go,

1059
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: We're spinning the wheel. What team comes up first? The

1060
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers quarterback Brice? Do you want head coach? Defense?

1061
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: Do you want villain? You want to use your wide

1062
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: receiver here? Where do you want to go? I'm gonna

1063
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: Golina Panthers? Dave canallis so Dave head coach? Wait?

1064
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: Are these current players?

1065
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes?

1066
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: Oh, you can't pick past players.

1067
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: No, this is seventeen to Troit is up next here.

1068
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: This feels like a slam dunk. I assume you want

1069
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: Gibbs here. This is going very well for the newbie.

1070
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: I feel like the beginner's luck is pretty good. Next

1071
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: team up, we have all the Arizona Cardinals, I mean,

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00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: brid Andrew.

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00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: I feel like this is I mean, I almost Carson back,

1074
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 3: but yeah.

1075
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: All right? Next up, New York Giants, Jackson, dart elak neighbors.

1076
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, We can also take the defense.

1077
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: You get the whole defense, Milk, all right, you.

1078
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: Still got quarterback and wide receiver to fill. I'm sorry,

1079
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: quarterback and defense?

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00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: How are you getting go? Seventeen? You know, with an

1081
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: without a receiver, for the first four weeks of the season.

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00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: That's what I would say, and Andrew, I mean full

1083
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: health here defense for Pittsburgh and good lord talking about

1084
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: give me all right, here we go, so please give

1085
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: me a quarterback, please, oh God, please, here we go

1086
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: quarterback Daniels. All right, so here we go. The team

1087
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: is complete. What's the record? Sixteen and one? No, it

1088
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: wasn't the way.

1089
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: It's because you drafted elk neighbors. He's gonna miss too

1090
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: many games.

1091
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: Beat that suckers.

1092
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: Let's oh, he's happy, he's happy he went sixteen and one.

1093
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: Oh. The way you're beating me is if you go

1094
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: seventeen to No. I want to see it happen. I do, right, Andrew?

1095
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: He right? For the new Game's all right, here we

1096
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: go spin the new game starting up Atlanta. Foul happy pean. Okay,

1097
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: I figured I figured as much. That's pret's pretty easy.

1098
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: Robinson off the board. Next up the team. You have

1099
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: to choose from Chicago Bears.

1100
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: I will go with Colson Loveland.

1101
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah you will, Colston Loveland. It is all right.

1102
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: Let's see what's next here for you, we have the

1103
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. I want to go defense. No, don't think

1104
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: you want to go quarterback here.

1105
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: My friends don't have Miles Garrett, so I don't feel

1106
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: as good about this defense. The receivers are not good.

1107
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: Old Toddy Monkin, Toddy Monken knocking on the door. Baby,

1108
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: it's monkey or defense Bro. I mean, I mean to say,

1109
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: defense of the Browns is okay. It's at least give

1110
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: you something a chance.

1111
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: I'll probably.

1112
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, too much trash to debro. That's what happens,

1113
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: all right, Next team up, Miami. Oh, here's your Malik

1114
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: Willis Love right here. All right, unless you want the

1115
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: head coach certainly don't want a receiver.

1116
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: Give me, give me, give me Halflee, Halflely.

1117
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: It is Andrew. I don't think this is gonna go

1118
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: as well for you to do.

1119
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: I mean, what are they gonna How do they get

1120
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: a determined wins based on a guy. It's never been

1121
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 2: a head coach in the NFL before, Deebro.

1122
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: It sounds like loser. Talk to me, yeah, I feel

1123
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: like you're already and come on or your boy DeVonta

1124
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: Smith all right, all right, which means come on. Your

1125
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver has to come from the following team. Well,

1126
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: it almost was the Ravens there, it's the Jacksonville Jackson

1127
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: who is wide receiver?

1128
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you guys? Did you see the so fitz

1129
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 2: Fitz he said that Parker Washington is wide receiver to right.

1130
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,479
Speaker 2: But then I didn't know. I was like, so, who's

1131
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: wide receiver one? Then I haven't listened back to the

1132
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: full show, but I was. I was confused because I

1133
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: saw the graphic and I was like, wait, who is

1134
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 2: waver one?

1135
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: I feel like you're selling.

1136
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: Trying to figure out which one of the algorithm is

1137
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 2: gonna like the most to give me the most points.

1138
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: I guess I'll go Brian Thomas.

1139
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: You I figured like if you went a minute, all right,

1140
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: here you go? So hurts Bijon Thomas Loveland. Brown's defense

1141
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: Jeff Haffley is terrible. Seventeen and one. I don't know.

1142
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: Let's take a look here, girls, thirteen better than I thought.

1143
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: That's terrible. Why you got this is horrible? You go

1144
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: seventeen and oh or your your team sucks?

1145
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: Stop thirteen and four is a bad team? What do

1146
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: we why? Yeah?

1147
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: But what is that If you can go seventeen to o,

1148
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 2: if that's what this team is capable of putting out

1149
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 2: then anything short of that is a disappointment and failure.

1150
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: Oh if you're not for a sure last, I mean

1151
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: I guess you are technically last from now ericson unless

1152
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: Joey goes well, still one here, like it's.

1153
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: Not starting off great. Tennessee Titans is not you know

1154
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: what I'm going brother? Absolutely, absolutely, brother. The only way

1155
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: I can go there. Oh my god, you're actually.

1156
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: Obligated to You're gonna take not Jonathan Tylor.

1157
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: It's the Indianapolis Colts for those of you listening. Oh,

1158
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: I got to say the team first. This is sad.

1159
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: You're not gonna Jones quarterback. That is Sessions. We'll see

1160
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay quarterback just bypassing them. That's stuff, dude, Really tough.

1161
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay here. I don't want to go Baker book

1162
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: is fun. Running back situation is not good. I think

1163
00:56:52,040 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: it's defense. Defense. Yeah, all right, I'm still wait. Can

1164
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: we build it?

1165
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: Can we build a team to go oh and seventeen?

1166
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: I want to do that? You know what?

1167
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: Fine? We will, Yeah, let's can't. We can't. We can

1168
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: build the worst team. How much How much time have

1169
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: we recorded right now? Because I can't see that's green.

1170
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: We're good. All right, maybe we've got time for one more.

1171
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: We'll see together we have time. Well, yeah, as collect

1172
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: we could do it together, Washington commanders, let's go win

1173
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: list together. I think we go Jayden and Daniels, I

1174
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: think we pull the trigger there. Running back, Come on,

1175
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: running back, Come on running. Since you got Chase, Jamar Chase,

1176
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: you have to go.

1177
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: We were talking about running back.

1178
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: Yes, Jamar Chase came up. I'm taking the bed of

1179
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: jam Jerrickson. He was not. Don't listen to this? Is

1180
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: that thirteen and four? All right? DeAndre Swift, that's fine,

1181
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean it could be worse. It could

1182
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: be worse. I got Jamar Chase and Tyland Warren on

1183
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: this team. I think it's better than Andrews. What do

1184
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: you think, bro?

1185
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's not as good as yours, but

1186
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: it's better than Hi the high end, I think you're

1187
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 3: gonna come out like fourteen and three eleven.

1188
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: Wow, that sucks.

1189
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: Can we frame this? The person that has done this

1190
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: the most had the worst record on this. I did

1191
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: it twice.

1192
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: It is I did two more times to me and

1193
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: Debro combined.

1194
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: Let's see how bad of a team we can build

1195
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: all right. Look, oh and seventeen, we are the Arizota Cardinals,

1196
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: baby Baltimore. What's the worst piece of the Baltimore Oh yeah, Walker,

1197
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: I was not even on the list. I can't find

1198
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: Tower Hunk Bateman. Sorry, shot Tower Hunk, Seoan Bateman. Let's go,

1199
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: let's go baitman fun. All right, So next up, next team,

1200
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: we get the Washington Commanders. Let us he's not on

1201
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: the team anymore.

1202
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: You can't do That's fine, dude, injured, he's on the team.

1203
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Chris Rodriguez. Yeah, or the Quinn Allen, the Quinn Allen.

1204
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,479
Speaker 2: No, Rodrigues is worse.

1205
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: Quens available, Quinn Quinn Dollon, Rodriguez isn't worse. That's right, Miami.

1206
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: We could go back to the head coach or defense. Defense.

1207
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: You gotta go the defense.

1208
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: Dolphins defense is good, pretty bad? All right, we'll worst court.

1209
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: There's a quarterback straight there we got we gotta have

1210
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: a starting quarterback.

1211
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: Who's going to coach the Bryce young le Quinn Allen, Rashaw,

1212
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: Bateman hurt.

1213
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: Mike Mccarthycarthy, babe, that might be the reason we we

1214
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: actually win games. Mike McCarthy, There we decent job. So close,

1215
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if we had gotten if we had

1216
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: pulled like anyone else but Mike McCarthy maybe like, uh,

1217
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: who's terrible, who's Eric? Yeah, we would have been We

1218
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: would have been cooking.

1219
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: We had Eric Glipper at seventeen. Man, it's so close,

1220
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: so close. Well, there you have it, everybody. We tried

1221
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: our best to go seventeen to zero. Debro got close.

1222
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: We also got close collectively to Owen seventeen. So that

1223
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: was a good time there. I think we should do

1224
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: that again because that's a good to see. It's fun. Derek,

1225
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: you were afraid of new things. It's a good toime. Andrew,

1226
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: did you have fun? Very good? It was fun beating

1227
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: both you. Gabbroni's in this it was great.

1228
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1229
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,160
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1230
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01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,919
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