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Speaker 2: You're dead nights at quarterback. They recruiter as a quarterback

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Speaker 2: and you just decided no one of your players.

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Speaker 3: Well, I got recruited as a quarterback, and when I went,

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Speaker 3: Chris Winki was actually started.

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Speaker 1: But Chris wink was one hundred and seventeen, so we.

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Speaker 3: Got He got drafted baseball, played baseball for some years,

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Speaker 3: came back, and when he came back, he was like

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Speaker 3: twenty five something.

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Speaker 1: Remember that he's like these football players. Now, was that

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Speaker 3: When I got recruited, he actually had he had got hurt.

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Speaker 3: So he didn't play in the National championship that year

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Speaker 3: against Tennessee because he had like a neck and when

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Speaker 3: I when I saw him, he couldn't throw a tennis ball,

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Speaker 3: damn five yards. So I'm like, okay, I can go

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Speaker 3: compete and win the spot. But when I ended up signing,

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Speaker 3: were going to training camp and he one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: So now he's a junior and I think he's about

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Speaker 3: twenty five, so obviously you know, he led the team

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Speaker 3: to a national championship, so he got the starting job.

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Speaker 1: Coming in.

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Speaker 3: They had Marcus Olson who was back up, and then

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Speaker 3: they had like JJ. But I found myself watching practice,

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Speaker 3: like it was probably about probably about three days four

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Speaker 3: days in the training camp. I'm watching practice. I'm not

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Speaker 3: taking reps, and I'm not used to watching practice because

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Speaker 3: I mean, I started, I started at varsity, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, as a freshman. So I'm here, I'm

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Speaker 3: watching practice. I'm like, man, this ain't cool. Like I

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Speaker 3: was like, I'm about to go highlight coach. Right after practice,

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Speaker 3: I go up and talk to coach Abowten. I'm like, coach, man, like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not cool with just watching practice, like I want

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Speaker 3: to play. He was like, well, we recruited you to

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Speaker 3: be a quarterback and you're trying to switch already. I'm

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Speaker 3: like yeah. I was like, man, I don't care about that.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm just trying to get on the field.

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Speaker 3: I'm not used to this. He was like, have you

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Speaker 3: talked to your parents about it? Because I know, you

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Speaker 3: know they were they really wanted you to play quarterback too.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I mean I talked to my dad.

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Speaker 3: He was like, whatever I want to do, it's cool.

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Speaker 3: So he was like, all right, well we'll allow you

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Speaker 3: to switch. He said, what position you're thinking about? So

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, I played safety in high school,

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Speaker 3: so I go to safety. He was like, nah, He's like,

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Speaker 3: we can't let you go to safety. You're too good

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Speaker 3: with the ball in game. He was like, if you're

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Speaker 3: gonna switch, it has to be on offense. You can

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Speaker 3: go to receiver or running back. I'm like running back,

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Speaker 3: I'll go to receiver. I had never played receiver before.

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Speaker 3: In the room that I went into the receiver room,

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Speaker 3: it was like Peter Ward run, Dugan's labernie is cold

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Speaker 3: snoop minutes. All these dudes got and I'm walking in

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Speaker 3: there as a a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But two weeks later we played Louisiana Tech, I get

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Speaker 3: too touchdown first game.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: The funny thing is is you did. Can kind of

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Speaker 2: take some credit for you being the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: and wide receiver then, because you know to Florida, which

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Speaker 2: is where you should have went, you might have been

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Speaker 2: starting quarterback. We never saw you as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: We can tell people, we're gonna get into that.

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Speaker 4: But the crazy thing is, and the kids at home,

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Speaker 4: she can take a page out your book, bro, because

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Speaker 4: you started your freshman years as a freshman in varsity,

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Speaker 4: get to college and hit with some adversity. I ain't quit,

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Speaker 4: I ain't jumping the portal. I ain't doing none of that.

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Speaker 4: And Coach, this ain't what I want to be on

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Speaker 4: the field. What I gotta do, what I gotta do.

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Speaker 4: And this is the great Bobby Bollen, by the way,

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Speaker 4: this ain't no, this ain't no duck. He going to

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Speaker 4: talk to Bobby Bouen. And I tell you, it took

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Speaker 4: me two years to speak to rounds dog. I ain't

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Speaker 4: saying Rody for two years. It's a great pat riley.

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Speaker 4: What I'm gonna say them. He went to hollered that

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Speaker 4: Bobby Boule and his future was on the line. So

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Speaker 4: all your kids at home, man, get a little tough man. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Coach just went there as a quarterback and got two

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I got a question about Bobby Ballen because my homeboy

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Speaker 4: used to play for Florida State Cook Cleveland Thomas.

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Speaker 1: He played you know Cook.

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Speaker 4: Cook told me Bobby Bell used to say six words

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Speaker 4: a day, come down there and say let's work hard.

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Speaker 1: Get up there and go sit up in that thing.

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Speaker 1: The practice. He come down there and say way to work.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 3: He stayed in the tower, so we come out. But

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Speaker 1: So he had to feel over here, to feel over here.

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Speaker 3: His tower, and he turned from one field to the next,

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Speaker 3: and he everything that went on.

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Speaker 3: He had his notepad, he had his pen, and he's

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Speaker 3: eye in the sky, like great and he was a

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Speaker 3: lot of people don't know. When I was at Florida State,

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Speaker 3: especially my freshman year, like offense and defense didn't get

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Speaker 3: So we we actually made each other better. And we

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Speaker 4: And then we had Mark Rick who was the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Man Georgia.

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Speaker 3: I remember we was in We used to be in

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Speaker 3: you the offense will get a defense the script so

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Speaker 3: you will know like what what formations we in, what

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Speaker 3: I remember in practice one day defense yailed across. They

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Speaker 3: figure it out. So like if if any day in practice,

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Speaker 3: if offense had a great day, defense had to run.

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Speaker 1: And I ain't talking about just like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to get it likes died there and

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Speaker 3: if defense won, offense already knew what was coming. So

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Speaker 3: like every day you can't go to practice and like

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Speaker 3: why that especially my freshman year, we ended up going undefeated.

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Speaker 3: We the first team go wide to wire number one

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Speaker 3: Man training camp is a fight every day offense versus defense.

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Speaker 3: Like you fight, and if if ever there was a

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Speaker 4: You gotta be a That's what we grew up in

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Speaker 4: k Killer. Did you hear the receiver room that he

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Speaker 4: walked into? Lavernius Cole, supn Ron Ron? Can we get

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Speaker 4: Peter Ward? Pete doug Old School, stop the down bus,

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Speaker 4: stop your gass and you keep flying.

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Speaker 1: Loaded Bradington y'all was loaded.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a we had a we had a man,

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Speaker 3: We had a receiver, a receiver group. Just the guys

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Speaker 3: I played with, Like I said, Peter Ward, Lavernius Coles,

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Speaker 3: run dug and Snoop Minace, Javon Walker.

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Speaker 1: Who Javon damn Greg Moore, Jermaine Streamer, damn man. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was loaded. Who was the running backs? Travis Miner,

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Speaker 3: Then we ended up recruiting. We got Nick Maddocks, who

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Speaker 3: then we had Greg Jonesmies.

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Speaker 4: Big boy for the Jaguars. Run your ass, so take

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Speaker 4: your glass with him to.

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Speaker 2: The Bobby Bottle was a real o g and huh

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Speaker 2: yeah yeah. So he loved that defensive offense.

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Speaker 4: That's type to do you think like and as you know,

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Speaker 4: as Bobby Bowden got a little older, because you look

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Speaker 4: instrumental in college football and winning and setting the tone.

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Speaker 4: Did you feel like as they got a little bit older,

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Speaker 4: it was just a different generation that just didn't know

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Speaker 4: who Bobby Baden was and you just didn't have the

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Speaker 4: same admiration and respect that you did because Listen, pat

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Speaker 4: Riley didn't have to earn my respect, Bobby Biden didn't

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Speaker 4: have to earn your respect. But now when you two

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Speaker 4: three generations remove and they don't know no better exactly,

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Speaker 4: see it all the time.

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Speaker 3: And then if I think sometimes you have like when

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: But when you when you think about it and you

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Speaker 3: have kids who didn't help establish that culture, Yes, they

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Speaker 3: they think it's just it's They don't they don't see

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Speaker 3: we had Matt drills, and like we used to actually

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Speaker 3: why was Florida State so good? Why were they top

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Speaker 3: five finishers in fifteen years in a row. And like

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Speaker 3: at one point we were the only team doing Matt drills.

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Speaker 3: So Matt drills is our winter conditioning. So just think

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't no, it wasn't no breaks. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: Your only break was going from one drill to the next.

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Speaker 3: But going from one drill to the next, you gotta run,

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Speaker 3: So it was no like take your time get there.

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Speaker 4: So it's like stations and you just stations and you

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Speaker 4: just running through the oh man, and it was it

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Speaker 4: and breaking is frowned upon.

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Speaker 3: If you quit, that's from you ain't quitting. You can't listen.

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Speaker 3: So say were in a group and and you may

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Speaker 3: have been missing class all all fall and thinking.

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Speaker 2: He was he was, he was missing class off all.

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Speaker 3: When you get the MAT drills, they got all your

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Speaker 3: doing their up downs whatever. And now we start MATT drills.

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