WEBVTT - From A Birdseye View with Nikki Sutton 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.440 I'm thet Duvall and this is Conversations with the podcast. 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.760 Today's guest is the owner and operator of Turkey on 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:09.840 the Loose right here in Georgia. Let's welcome Nikki Sutton. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:13.360 Let me know where who you are and where you're from. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:15.360 I'm Nikki Sutton from Atlanta, Georgia. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:16.520 I'm Atlanta, Georgia. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.840 Fourth for what part h fourth for great you're from 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:21.200 Greater home grader homes. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.560 Okay, okay, how old are you? Might? What you mind 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:25.320 me ask you all day? 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.360 I'm forty two, so you're around my age. I'm forty six. Okay, 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:30.680 you know so so I know you could talk. I 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.240 know you ain't no soft soft as motherfucker, you know 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.280 what I'm saying. So so tell me about your upbringing 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.239 or whatever, like when you got to established in your 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.720 life or who who you when you became Nikki the 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:42.720 person who you are. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.720 I came from a really good background. It's just the 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:47.840 things that I chose to do in life to get 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.680 off the path. I was in the street, I was 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:55.480 hanging out, I did my thing, scamming pretty much, so. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:56.720 He was one of them trapped queens. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:57.480 Yeah, pretty much. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:58.160 I really was. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.720 And I took your credit card and I went crazy 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:01.960 with it. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:03.200 Let me ask you this before. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.120 I don't know if people know you what. They probably 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.440 don't because I'm learning you too. Was you gay at 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.000 this time or since I was fourteen? Okay? Okay, okay, okay, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.759 So you always been who you are? Okay always okay? 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:17.520 And I just you know, been in there all my 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.880 life and just how he had been trying to get it? 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.760 Since how did you evolve from from the illegal ship 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:25.280 to the to the real ship. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.600 It took me getting shot to realize that wasn't the 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:29.319 life I wanted. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.160 So getting shot came from doing the street ship or. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.280 Just getting shot just came from carmel. Basically, That's what 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.480 I think it was. I think it was karma. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.520 So you believe in come absolutely really believing. I do. 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.480 I do too, I really believe in So what what? 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:49.880 So give me a little tell me a little more about. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.920 Because you was you deep off in the streets, like 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.840 really deep, or you were just doing your thing. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.400 D you called me for everything anything you needed, I 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.160 had it, or I can get it, I. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:58.680 Can touch it. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.000 Yeah, the niggas know not the fuck with you too, 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.560 though they did? Okay, they did, and that I was. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.800 Always solid, So I did never have those problems. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.080 Right right, right right then. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:08.880 That's why they never fucked with you in the streets. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.000 But karma, that's why you say karma came another way around? 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:12.359 Right? 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.920 Okay, Okay, that's what's up. I mean, I understand the 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.760 life is, that's what evolves. And what in that moment 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.000 made you change your life? Because a lot of people 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.399 get shot and that don't that make them too? Park 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:23.400 around as motherfucker? 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.919 You know what I'm saying. But what made you say? 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.600 You know what, I gotta do something else? 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:30.880 I just said, Lord, have you let me live through this? 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.840 I'm done? And it was just pretty much. 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:35.320 And when did you get shot at? 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.760 I got shot on Columbia Drive. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:38.400 You know what I'm saying. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.639 Where my stomach? Your stomach, stomach and my stomach twice? 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.000 How was the healing process? 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.919 Healing went will? He and will was two month? Healing 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:51.440 process two months? Oh shit, my healing shit was twelve months? 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.240 Really? Yeah? 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:54.880 But I didn't get shot. I got hit by a 0:02:54.919 --> 0:03:00.000 car for real. But all healing is healing, especially traumatic 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.760 stuff like that. Do you think it fuckued you psychologically? 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.200 Some days I do even to this day. How long 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:06.720 ago was that? 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.359 Twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen, that wasn't that long. 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.680 I guess when you look at the big scheme things, 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.160 especially at I age, that really right? Yeah, so what 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.320 did you think? But did that motivate you the you 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.320 say it motivated you to. 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.800 To do something different. I just need to do something different. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.240 And so what jumped you into the turkey business? The 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.160 turkey turkey leg what is it? 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.560 Turkey on the loose leg restaurant? 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:30.960 Yeah? Yeah, yeah. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:32.560 It was my night to cook for my wife and 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.679 I and bought. I bought the wrong thing and in 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.240 the cab forms market talking on the phone and not 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:38.880 really paying attention. So I walk up to the lady. 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:40.680 I'm like, let me have all of them. She said, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.040 you want all of these? I'm like yeah, she gave 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:44.400 it to. When I get to the register, it was 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.160 like four hundred and fifty six dollars. I'm like, what 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.160 the fuck I bought? And of course, you know you 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.400 can't turn around, so I paid for it. I get 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.200 in the car, call my mom my wife. I'm like, y'all, 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.960 I just bought some turkey legs and I can't take 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.800 them back. I don't even know what to do. My 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.320 mom said, well, just bring them. I ain't never cooked 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.840 on turkey legs, Nikki, Let's play with them. So I 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.080 played with them for what two weeks. I thought I 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:04.760 was barbecue and I didn't know it was smoking. I know, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.160 I didn't know it was a difference between barbecue and 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.080 the smoking. And I did it for two weeks down 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.040 to my last day, the fourteenth day actually of the 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:17.479 two weeks. They was right falling off the bone, and 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.599 I started giving I said, I got to hit y'all. 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.040 You know what I'm saying. So I started giving them away, 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.120 and then they started calling me for him, like shit, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:29.080 I want that lemon pepper, bring just heat. Just people 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:30.719 running like all my friends, like everybody. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:31.039 I knew. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.279 I was just passing them out, give them to them. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.120 They started calling me for him, like oh shit. So 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:35.520 I just keep by them, keep buying them. We playing 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.120 with them, trying to come up with different flavors and 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:41.240 the names as we was doing it. Like I said, 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.240 I just started giving them away, and then eventually, like 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.400 my third round, I started selling for ten dollars this warning, 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.680 some more and some more. Now we want pans. I'm 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.960 like oh shit, smoking take you know, hours. It's not 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:55.560 like you can put them on there and they coming 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.000 off from like forty five minutes to out. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.520 Nah, It's like this was all by yourself, all. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.240 By myself, my wife and I know, my wife, my 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:05.280 mom and myself, and it was just a process. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.880 How long did that process happen? When you start? Like 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.640 how fast was it from all right? I just put 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:12.760 these heids like boom, oh shit, I start giving away 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.080 for like thirty days. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.680 It was raining. One day I was on Highway eighty 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.400 five pouring down rain and a bustle. You turned in 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:19.800 the middle of street. I saw a building and said, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.240 for rent. Shit, I'm about to call them. I called 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.120 the lady kept saying I need to see who you are. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:25.719 I need to see them, Like, shit, I got the money. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:26.720 You don't need to see who I am. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:27.400 You know what I'm saying. 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.800 So when I got there and I met him, and shit, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.000 she was like, I'm gonna trust you. I'm gonna let 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.880 you rent this property. She was like, because I see 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:37.560 that you have a past and here I am today. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.400 They said another thing. You didn't burn that bridge, neither 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.560 you did what you supposed to do. A lot of 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.280 people get something like that then and they say I'm 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.000 gonna give you a chance, and they and they fuck 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.680 it up, you know what I'm saying. But you didn't. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.640 And that's what people got to understand too. It's a 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.360 little simple shit like that, you know what I'm saying, 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.559 Little simple shit like that, Like everybody can work hard 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.680 and have a business, because I'm pretty sure you ain't 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.320 the first person that have to think like that. But 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.120 the difference is it's how you moved. Let me get 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.600 that lighted too. It's how you move. It's how you 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.760 handled it and how you had a quality and hustle 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:12.560 and you and. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:13.800 You was professional with it. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.719 When I say professional, it's like somebody gave you a chance, 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.520 you know what I'm saying, And that's all somebody needs. 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.880 Like I try to give people chances all the time, 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.320 and sometimes they fuck it up, and I hope they 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:25.640 fucking up all I have to do it no more 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.880 for their ad you know what I'm saying. But at 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.960 the same time, I try to give them the chance 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.679 because that's what we be needing, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.599 But from that, so what happened after that where you rent. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.440 The building from a like six months, paid rent on 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.880 time every month. She came to me one day and said, well, 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:43.359 Dad and I want to sell the property. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:44.279 I'm like, shit, I. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.719 Just been up six months. I ain't even got the rope, 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.680 so I don't even know what I'm doing yet. And 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.200 she was like, well, we'll come back in a couple 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.680 of months and talk back to you. I'm riding one 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.520 day again, because anytime I'm riding, that's my therapy come 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.000 from just you know, driving. I called, I said, miss Normal, 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.800 you know, I think I'm ready to talk numbers. She came, 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.200 She came with the number. I was like, shit, I'm 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:09.039 gonna get back at you. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:10.640 Yeah, you know. 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.920 And I never called her back because a million dollars 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:16.720 just wasn't on my table at the time for that, 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.280 you know what I'm saying, Not for a restaurant. I 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.360 didn't and I didn't really know the game of it, 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.800 how to do what. So she ended up calling me 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.120 back and said we're gonna I need you to meet 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.640 me so we can have a sit down. I'm in 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.200 the met with her. We talked, came over with the numbers. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.400 She said, give me fifty thousand and the rest of 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.680 it on me, and I'm like, I told my wife, 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.320 I said, this shit can't be true. I'm like, this 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:41.360 shit can't be true. 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:41.920 That's God. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.240 And I was like, all right, I see you. Lets 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.080 I say today Sunday. I was like, I see you Monday. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.960 Monday morning, I called her like I'm ready, took it 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:54.280 to her. And here I am today, almost three years later, 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.600 and I owned the whole little block right there. I 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.800 bought the whole estates, you know what I'm saying. So 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.360 you know it's been going. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.560 For me, it's been going for you. That's dope, man, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:05.400 Because people get caught up. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.960 In damn they made twenty million. I need to do that. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:09.120 Everybody do it. 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.560 Yeah, yeah, it ain't that. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.120 It's the goddamn your hustle or dry because they could 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:16.960 take they could take that. They ain't got to want 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.280 to do turkeys. They could do something else, you see 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.640 what I'm saying. So that's why I don't like to 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.160 say too much about numbers too. I mean, numbers is cool, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.440 but at the same time, what you did your hustle 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.280 and being at the right place at the right time, 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.800 and just being a good person in general. 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.160 You know what I'm saying. It worked in your and 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:36.840 God gave you that chance. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.080 You know what I'm saying. I don't know if you 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.400 believe it God or whatever whatever it is. You know 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.559 what I'm saying is what it is. But it helped you. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:45.160 You know what I'm saying. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.480 You didn't And like with me and Clay, Me and 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.760 Snake were just talking about how how a lot of 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:56.920 people they got that bag and fucked it up, fumbled 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.760 it trying to get the wrong things, and a lot 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.040 of peop people try to do the right things, but 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.800 they just it's a mindset thing, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.760 But all right, let me finish ask you this. Now 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.680 that you establish, how do you find peace? Or have 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:12.760 you found that yet? 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.760 That's why I come in and try to help you 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.400 on that part, like how do you find like have 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:18.680 you found that yet? 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.520 I found my peace? But I feel like it's going 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.760 so fast right now. It's like I still don't know 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.600 what's going on. I know what's going on, just run 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.640 the daily operation. But it's now people. Let me get 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.360 a franchise, Can I hear that? I want to take 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.040 it too, Tickets, I want to take Detroit. I want 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.719 to take it. I'm like you gotta come to it. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.880 You know what I'm saying, Riverdale, if you want this, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.520 that's pretty much like where I am. It's just it's 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:40.840 a lot. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.240 Yeah yeah, it's a lot. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.400 That's why I asked you. That's the business part of it. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.040 But what about when you do you detox from that? 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.400 Every now and when you know when it's time for 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:50.400 me to be off, I'm off? 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.559 What do you do? What do you do for detox? 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:56.839 Chill with you, bitches? What you do? 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.920 I'm a traveler, like trouble where you being. I've been 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.800 in Japan, I've been to Costa Rica. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.760 Okay, okay, type ship what you like the most? 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.120 I'm a traveler to I've been up damn there everywhere. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.840 But I really like Japan. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:14.160 Japan. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.160 Yeah, the technology is insane. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.600 I tell you, I don't like this special than a 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.040 motherfucker over there. Man. 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.000 But and then, I'm not a city person. I'm not 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.520 a city person. I don't like like city places like that. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.640 Every place I like, I like it to look like 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.280 when I look at it, like, damn, it looked like 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:32.360 this's centuries ago. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:33.360 You know what I'm saying. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:37.280 I like places like Asia, Asia, like I like the 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.920 I like the water parts, like places where water. I'm 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.800 a watery type nigga, Like I live in Bahamas, so 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:44.439 I'm a watery nigga. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:45.280 I like ship like that. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.240 And that's where I go to detox from the world. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.760 And like it's a song in Bahama stopped the world 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.120 and let me off. That's why I go let off 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.160 right there and chill and and and I think everybody 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.760 should have that. It don't have to be like enxotic, 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:01.800 you know what I'm saying. It just got to be 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.439 a place to where you can gather your thoughts, especially 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.360 like now where you at in your life and your 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.160 career and your business. You got a lot of shit 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.920 going on, and it's hard to think while you're in motion. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:16.079 But you gotta step aside and say, shit, I'm a 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.120 chill me time, you know what I'm saying. And then 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.040 that'll get your mind back to that in there, give 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.520 you ten times more hustle, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.760 So that's that's that's my only only thing I can 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.520 say that. I just but it sounds like you're doing 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.360 it though, because you say you got your own detok 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.600 ship where you chill out and vibe out. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.640 I have to. I have to. So what you do 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.199 for fun, what you do for fuck? 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.480 Smoke smoke smoking that good? 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:44.520 I read a lot you do. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:45.120 I'm a reader. 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.439 Hang really, I'm a visual person. I've always been like 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:50.560 I like movies a lot. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.959 I like movies. I got in the legos lately of 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.440 been that, but that's because I'm old. Yeah, the older 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.600 you get right, it makes you, It makes you use 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.040 your brain a lot more. And especially that's a social 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:08.040 media we get distracted so much. You know what I'm saying, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.480 gotta gone, ain't but it is what it is. So 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.319 you got to do shit to help that muscle. So 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:15.079 that's what I do. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.840 But other than that shit, I just be vibing too. Money. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:20.439 That's what's up ing. 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.079 So tell me about how you feel about the gay community, 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.000 how its evolved. Because I used to do a podcast 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.440 with my sister. It was called out here with and 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.560 that was my way of showing like we can be 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.280 two different type of people, like you can have your way, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.120 I can have my way, and we don't have to agree, 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.040 but we can still love each other. And that was 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:38.719 my way of showing that through that ship. You know 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.640 what I'm saying, but I want to ask you, what 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.160 do you how do you feel about how because if 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.680 you around my age, then you've seen it evolve to 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:47.520 what it is now. 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.800 The Yeah, yeah, they very disrespectful. I think they disrespect 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.680 We'll call it a culture. Yeah, you'll own the group 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:55.560 whatever you want to make. 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.120 Yeah, it's evolved into everything else. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.439 It's kind of like how blacks and want to tell 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.880 me was all one and we started separating and this 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.160 that I think that's what happened with Gaze now is 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.080 everybody separating to their own what they wanted to be. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.040 And like sometime my sister used to tell me all 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.120 that she don't like how it is now because it's 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.880 like it's it's the cool thing, the proper. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.679 Yeah, it's it's a trend to them now. See when 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.760 I was growing up and when I told my family 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.160 I was gay, I was a lesbian, they was like, oh, 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:23.320 nobody wanted to talk to me. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.400 They was like, I was the first person. My sister 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:27.400 told you what I'm saying. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.440 My aunt was my first person, and I was because 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.040 I couldn't tell nobody else I was. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:32.480 I went to her with and I was the only 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.120 one that went to her wedding. Wow. 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.560 And this was before weddings was legal. This was like 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:41.920 early two thousands or some shit, and it was just like, you. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.840 Know, they just left me out. And I was like, 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.760 you know what, they gonna need me, you know what 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.520 I'm saying. You know, the smaller you're thinking is, you know, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.360 they gonna need me. And I just got on the ground. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.400 I just just been grinding ever since and just living 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.640 my life. And then eventually they start coming around. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.000 Yeah. You know, you think the world came around, They 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.440 came around around. You think they came around because the 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.040 world came around. They came around because of you, the 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:03.560 love of you. 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.800 I think they was more so just nikka, just don't 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.640 give a damn. So just take it to leave it. 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.480 You know. The ones that's gonna deal, it's gonna deal. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.680 The ones that's not, it's not. But now all of 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.880 them deal. Yeah yeah yeah, So I mean I didn't 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.560 force it on them, but this is me. You know, 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.120 I want to live my troops. So I didn't feel 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.120 like I should have to hide it. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.640 But today, what made you find it so young? Back then? 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.400 Because back then it wasn't cool to come out at fourteen. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.720 Oh no, it wasn't fourteen. I just knew I didn't 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.480 like guys. I dated this one guy, and I just 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.280 I have the way he felt was so hard. It 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:37.640 was too hard, you know. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.040 It was just I don't know, it was just I 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:41.600 don't know. It just wasn't for me. You know how 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.800 you just know something just not for you. It just 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.280 wasn't for me. My old lady gay as fuck. She 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.640 gave her motherfucker, but she like, she like pussy, but 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.640 she don't like women, if that makes sense. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.400 Like, you know, it's so funny. I tell people this 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.800 all the time. If you ever want if women, if 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.560 you want to know how crazy you are they the woman. 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.840 That's why I'm so cool with bull Daggers gay because 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.520 it's like, yeah, but I mean, but that's Upper Florida, 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.680 old nigga. But but that's who we like because y'all 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.240 understand us, like y'all don't take ship personally like that 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.360 they're you know, like when I talk to the Gazer's 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:17.840 like I have to talk to them like I talk 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.720 to pregnant women. You know what I'm saying, Like like 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.360 you have to be sensitive with them, you know what 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.360 I'm saying. I'm not saying the bad way. Just like 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.400 like with women, I have to understand that I can't 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.120 just talk to them like a nigga and the barber shop. 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.000 So I have to understand that about gays. But with 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:34.440 with with gay women, we talked ship all day long, 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.840 all long, you know what I'm saying. It's like they 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.680 don't take ship the hard because they understand y'all know. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:40.960 Who you are. You got to know who you are. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.760 Yeah, and you and it's the mindset of a nigga. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:44.520 You know what I'm saying. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.720 It is the mindset of a nigga. But you still 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.080 gotta know you are. I know, I'm a woman. At 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.600 the end of the day, you got some see you. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.920 You're the old school. But they now don't want to 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.280 say that. They don't want to say they are woman. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:57.600 No they don't. They don't. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:02.040 Yeah, like like I don't get and not cool with that. 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.920 But while they get mad if you don't cool with that, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:06.880 I don't get that, like that. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:08.840