1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean, but what you got to think about it? 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: Like they didn't win it, but how much the city 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: of Philly loves him? 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like we had we. 5 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: We had the Morris and the Twins on they were 6 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: talking about how he used to sell out TJ on Fridays. 7 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: That's why I teach you that text message. I got 8 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: them forty thousands. 9 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: That's the city, Like, come come, that's the city. 10 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Tell the story. 11 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: Like one time me and him, Chucky Atkins we went 12 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: to dinner or lunch Chuckick Akins and Florida guy. 13 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 4: Yeah in Orlando, right, I play with Chuck. 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: Is like, let's go to lunch and Chuck's coming with me? 15 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: You Chuck, No, Chuck, Chuck's coming off. 16 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 4: Let's go. Let's go. 17 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: So we go to this steakhouse. Hey, I don't care 18 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: what the level is. He gonna be him. He shows up, 19 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: We're all dressed nice. It was like Ruth Chris or something, 20 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: flip flops, basketball shorts, white Peeter. We're like Ruth Chris 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: man Yankee cat dog under knee And it was like 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: remember e F. Hutting Mershall when he F Hutting talked 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: to people. I've never been in a restaurant where you 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: can hear a pin drop because everybody was trying to 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: eavesdrop and was talking about tell stories. 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: But when Chuck tells story, y'all been to dinner with Chuck. 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Now, I've been to dinner with him, but I've been around. 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: To stand up. 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: Oh. 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: So he's standing up in the restaurant telling his stories 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 3: and his voice is so like a buller voice, like 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: everybody can hear what the whole restaurant was, Like, I 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: want to hear his story, but he had a stand 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: up to tell the story. I mean, but I like 35 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: the probably the coolest day of my career, Allen goes 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. This Hall of Fame is 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: incredible and I'm covering it. Shaq, Yeah Iverson, Lisa Lesler. 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I remember that. 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: Actually, I think was the way I think the Wade 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: was there was the one who who he had. 41 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: Iverson is Shrine D Wade? 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, okay, so you have and the way it 43 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: goes with the with the Hall of Fame, somebody bring 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: somebody in. 45 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: So I found out this story later Shaq had a 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: private jet. Iverson found out that Shack had a private jet, 47 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: but he didn't get one. 48 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: So I was. I was like, I get there when 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: y'all getting me my p j. 50 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Oh Stead, old business, old jacket. 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: They had a press conference. Allan ain't there. Shack there, Lisa, 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: y'all other folks. Allan ain't there. Shack was. 53 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: Shack's mad And I didn't understand why he was mad 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: at the big fellow was mad? Shack being shocked, But 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: he was mad. I don't know if he's mad because 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: Allen was he was, he was, he was. He was 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: irritated that Alan wasn't there yet, and they were everybody 58 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 3: else is doing all this stuff, but Alan was there. 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, Alan shows up like a 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: bat out of hell. Right, the press Coppace over, but 61 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: we're getting on my tables. He comes up, Yankee hat, 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: you know, like saying T shirt long tea, white t shorts. 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: His guy says, you know, man, come in the back 64 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: real quick. Runs in the back. I have the video. 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: He puts the jacket on him, the Hall of Fame jacket. 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 3: He runs back, but he still got the Yankee cap on. Right, 67 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: and he's sitting down. He's doing an interview and a 68 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: guy from Associated Press, he goes, can you tell us 69 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: why you were late. 70 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: It was almost like practice, we gotta talk about that. 71 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: I'm here, Why we gotta talk about that? Man? It's 72 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: like like we gotta be focused on the Hall of Fame. 73 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: We don't need to be. 74 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: Talking about why I'm late, blah blah blah. And then 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: Alan was so amazing as he always was. Interviewing him, 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: he starts crying. It's like going a Mary J. Blig concert. 77 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: He's bringing you through all these different motions of his life, right, 78 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: and he's like, tell us these great stories. And so 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: I'm on Sports Center later that night, and first question 80 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: they asked me about Alan being late. Mike, I mean, 81 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: Alan always comes late to stuff. I said, I'm used to. 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me. I said, but when he's there, 83 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: it's incredible. You forget he's late. Yes, he's present, he's 84 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: his storytelling is amazing. His story is amazing. Like I 85 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: after thirty seconds, I forgot he was late like that, 86 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: But you know that's just the. 87 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 4: Aura Alan iverson. 88 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Yes. 89 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: So after they had a like a Hall of Fame 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: event that night, he's walking out, he sees me he's 91 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: with his boys. That's my man, man, that's my man, 92 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: mab that's my man. Man, he was on Sports Center 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: the day and he could have killed me being late, 94 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: but no, that's my man. 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he said nothing like that. Man. I love him. 96 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 4: Man said, man, I love you too. So he gave 97 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: me a hug. 98 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: A whole bunch of people and a bunch of other 99 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: and each one of his boys came up and got 100 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: me up, gave me a hug. That's the coolest I 101 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: ever felt my life, like Alan iverson, like publicly. 102 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: Let me tell you, so that is cool. That's that day. 103 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: Like I know that feeling. I know that I had 104 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: the chance to early on in my career. I was 105 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: out here in Vegas with Antoine Walker. We were hanging 106 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: out in him at Ai, you know, gambling at the 107 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: table and just be at the table with Ai. That 108 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: was one of my proudest moments. I ain't had the 109 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: fund to gamble with them. I was just spectating, just 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: to be at the table and hang around and hang 111 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: out with AI at that moment, Like that was one 112 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: of the coolest moments that I ever had. 113 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: That was like my rookie second third year. It was. 114 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: It was it was early on in my career. You 115 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, But I know impact that he had. 116 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: I'll be remiss I about it. 117 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: Talking about the impact Kobe Bryant had, I mean, being like, 118 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: I don't know why he liked me, but he did. 119 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: You No, I think I asked a lot of introspective questions. 120 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: I minded in psychology and I use a lot of that. 121 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: So he said, man, you're always asking these doctor seuss 122 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: ass questions, right, But for some reason he liked me. 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: And if I would email him tell him when I 124 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: was coming, and the reporters in LA would get pissed 125 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: because he would do them and then he give me. 126 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: And so one time he said, you asked doctor, but 127 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 4: he liked. 128 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: My questions, like there were deeper questions, just made him think. 129 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: So one time I show up, Bro, I'm in this 130 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: beautiful Adidas sweatsuit. 131 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: I'm a hard guy to fit this three excel te shit, right, 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: I had to choose and match all black the black 133 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: T shirt underneath. He couldn't tell me nothing that day, 134 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: and being said he would talk to me at the practice. 135 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 3: So meet him at the practice and he's looking at 136 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: me like discussed. I'm like, and Nico was with him, 137 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: It's like, why are you disrespected. 138 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: Me like that? Oh? 139 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: Because yeah, it's all bru, like, what are you talking 140 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: about while you wearing that? And I looked and it 141 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: hit me like he said, I ain't doing an interview. 142 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, dog, I'm to talk to you. What you 143 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: mean you ain't doing an interview. I ain't interviewing you 144 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: wearing that? I'm like, what you want me to take 145 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: it all? I'll be like, yeah, I'm like, come on. 146 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: Man, Dad here he was dead as here. Yeah, He's like, no, 147 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna tell you what you're gonna do. You're 148 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: gonna go home. 149 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you an interview, but when you go home, 150 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna need you to film You're throwing that away 151 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: and send me the video. Damn, I'm talking about stood 152 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: on visits. He was like, so, if you're willing to 153 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: do that, well we could conduct the interview. I did 154 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: the interview. At that time. I lived in the apartment 155 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: that had a trash shoot, and a friend I was 156 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: hanging out at the time, filmed it, dropped in the 157 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: trash shoot, filmed it, sent it to him, and. 158 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: I think he respected that. Oh that's I think he 159 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: was testing exactly. 160 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: But he always looked out for me, always gave me 161 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: exclusive interviews his last game in Oakland. The only time 162 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 3: I ever sat in the training room was because he 163 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: told me to come there. 164 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: And still when I. 165 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: Got the job at The Undefeated Andscape, he sent me 166 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: an email saying, congrats. 167 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 4: What can I do to help you? He's such a legend. 168 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: The weekend. 169 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: That he passed, I was sending him an email that 170 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: weekend see if I could get an early Hall of 171 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 3: Fame interview from him. I was going to send that 172 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: that that Monday, because it was a Sunday. I always 173 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: remember it was a Sunday morning. And y'all know, if 174 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: it's on t memz and it's LA, it's real. If 175 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: it's tmz in in l A, it's real. And I 176 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: just saw that come over on on Twitter. And despite 177 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: the hardest story I ever had to write in my life, 178 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: because I got a call from an editor and it's 179 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: like I need a story in ninety minutes on. 180 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: Kobe, you got to write that asd. 181 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: Like after he passed, I had to immediately like flip 182 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: into work mode and write a story about this man's passing. 183 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, hardest story I ever had to write. 184 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: That. 185 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: Somehow, it's still tough to talk about it. I ain't 186 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: come to peace with it. I don't think any of 187 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: y'all know. I don't know if we ever will. 188 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: And I've only competed against him and shook his hands 189 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: after games, and that's still tough to me to process. 190 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: Like I just yeah, like I can't watch and I've 191 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: been a part of it because some of the documentaries 192 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: done on I can't watch it. It was he was 193 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: so amazing, like I wish the players could see. 194 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: But in every aspect though, Mark, no, no, I'm not 195 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: even talking about master. 196 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: In every aspect. So what he would do is and 197 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: Draymond does this now. If he meets somebody like I 198 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: took Draymond to see Branford Marsalis and concert jazz saxophonist, 199 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: one of the greatest in the world, and Draymond grill 200 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: Branford afterwards about the teamwork between the band. Kobe was 201 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: doing that. So if Kobe met somebody, they would be 202 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: all nervous and stuff like that, but he would bring 203 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: their make him relax by knowing who they were and 204 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: saying their name and knowing their background and then oh, 205 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: you're an expert in this, I'm gonna squeeze this from 206 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: you and find out what makes you great. 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