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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we are devastated, heartbroken, terrified,

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Speaker 1: help today. We just want you to be kind to

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Speaker 1: get back to fighting for women, for my black friends,

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Speaker 1: for my gay and trans friends, for my immigrant friends,

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Speaker 1: and for my friend who spent months generously documenting every

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Speaker 1: step of her IVF publicly to help other women, only

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Speaker 1: to find out this week that the baby is not

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Speaker 1: viable and she will now wait to see if her

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Speaker 1: body can miscarry safely on its own, whether it will

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Speaker 1: be an ectopic pregnancy, or whether she'll need a medical

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Speaker 1: Thank God she's in a state where that is still legal.

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Speaker 1: When I find the strength, I'm going to get back

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Speaker 1: to fighting for everyone who is scared and suffering and

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Speaker 1: feeling betrayed by a country that has never yet live

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Speaker 1: To quote poet Adrian Rich. My heart is moved by

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Speaker 1: all I cannot save. So much has been destroyed. I

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Speaker 1: have to cast my lot with those who age after age, perversely,

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Speaker 1: with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world. Please take care

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Speaker 1: of yourselves and take care of each other. Today, we're

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Speaker 1: going to do something different. At the espnW summit last week,

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Speaker 1: musician Brittany Howard, formerly of Alabama Shiks. She's now out solo,

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Speaker 1: and I thought our conversation would just be a nice,

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Speaker 2: Brittany and I chatted about.

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Speaker 1: Her growing up in a junk yard, haunted houses, treating

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Speaker 1: her voice like an instrument for her storytelling, becoming a unicorn,

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Speaker 1: in life farms. Those farms might become in sooner than

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Speaker 1: I planned. Brittany was truly a delight. I hope you

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Speaker 1: woman is a Powerhouse was born in Athens, Alabama. Singer, songwriter, producer,

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Speaker 1: Billboard's Women in Music Powerhouse Award and released a self

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Speaker 1: titled album with her side project Thunderbitch, which has never

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Speaker 1: gonna work toward that. In twenty eighteen, she toured with

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Speaker 1: Time list. In February of this year, she released her

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Speaker 1: She is a bad ass. If you aren't loud enough,

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Speaker 1: Andrea Carter at our New York summit was asked, if

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Speaker 1: Brittany Howard. So when we keep saying how excited she

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Speaker 1: Also good taste, Andrea, right, good taste. Okay, Brittany, I

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Speaker 2: Do you want to hear about the haunted house?

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Speaker 3: I lived in this haunted house for seven years, y'all,

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Speaker 3: You know, the ghost was doing things like slamming cabinet doors,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no one else is here, exactly right. I started

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Speaker 1: And then an invisible raccoon whispered in your band made's ear.

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Speaker 3: My bandmate, Zach, we were in this little rehearsal room

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Speaker 1: But you made beautiful music there, yes, And then Sound

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Speaker 1: was a bat in the studio. Yeah, okay, and then Jamie,

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Speaker 1: And then the last album was very peaceful. So what

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Speaker 2: I don't know progress. I'm gonna try a pattern of peace. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think we all should Yeah, starting next Tuesday. Okay.

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Speaker 1: You had incredible success with Alabama Shakes, but you decided

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're Yeah, thank you. And we often find that

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Speaker 3: And not wanting to sing anything that gets under anybody's

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Speaker 3: And taking this absolute authority over the whole project. I

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Speaker 2: You know, I feel much more powerful.

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Speaker 1: That's really cool. Said it made you angry, and you

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Speaker 2: It doesn't like fester. I can say something or I

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of opportunities now that I didn't

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Speaker 3: It is so powerful, especially for all of these women

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Speaker 2: It's very powerful thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feel different to feel like you have

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Speaker 1: Sure, but the anger can still be there. It's motivating,

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Speaker 1: it's useful. But there's a lot of meditative sound bowls

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I see all these people

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Speaker 1: It's a vibe.

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Speaker 1: I don't do gummies often, but I did gummies once

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Speaker 2: Was it almost too much?

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Speaker 1: It's almost too much? More? With Britney Howard right after this,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is not bullshitting. Probably the most

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Speaker 1: beautiful cover of Joni Mitchell I've ever heard, because your

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Speaker 1: Once you've won Grammys and you're a major label artist,

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't go anywhere I don't belong. I

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Speaker 2: You know, I would never go.

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Speaker 2: Damn, I just come up with that.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, like I said, I've had a unique

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Speaker 3: And if it doesn't work out, I guess it wasn't

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're worth. So it's like, if you don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, it's like, I guess that's my sign

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can relate in ways I won't say

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Speaker 1: seen it. It's beautiful, and your everyday style as Australian

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Speaker 1: based on the last question. But as a labeler manager

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean probably for the better. Honestly, It's true.

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Speaker 3: I love looking like a Zoo guide. It's like it's

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Your voice is truly another of the instruments you play.

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Speaker 1: It is incredibly versatile. You can belt, you can have

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Speaker 1: sing quiet and introspective. Do you know a certainty when

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Speaker 1: you're writing a song, which of your voices you will

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Speaker 1: see how the story changes when you change the voice

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it depends.

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Speaker 3: It depends on if I create the music first, or

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Speaker 2: Boom boom boom, boom boom, and then the.

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Speaker 2: And then I'm like, tomorrow, that's gonna make sense. It's

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Speaker 3: But you know, the voice is an instrument, and that's

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Speaker 3: it's not just a razzle dazzle or to be the

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Speaker 1: You want you right there?

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Speaker 2: How'd you know I could tell.

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Speaker 3: I'll sing later though, Okay, okay, I mean you're paid too,

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Speaker 1: That'd be weird if later you were like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's usually how I decide.

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Speaker 3: It's like do I want to sound more like stringy

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Speaker 2: It's just like instrumentation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also really fun because if you wanted to,

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Speaker 1: That's really cool.

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Speaker 2: Great idea.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, I'll take my cut whenever that sells big,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'll get you one point perfect, I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the Kennedy Center Honors. You also perform for

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Speaker 1: You played for Prince by Request at Paisley Park. You

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Speaker 2: I mean, it feels surreal. You know.

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Speaker 3: These are people that I always looked up to and

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Speaker 3: to them, you know, as far as like creatively speaking,

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Speaker 2: I can almost barely speak on it.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like so massive for me that I

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Speaker 3: don't know. It's one of those things like every once

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Speaker 3: And just think like, wow, it's been incredible so far.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what's gonna have and next.

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Speaker 1: You get nervous in those moments with those with those artists.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I never know when I'm won't be nervous, Like

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Speaker 1: Yeah. See, you seem good. Yeah, you seem good. Do

441
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 1: you have a good Paisley Park story. There's a great

442
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 1: story of he invited a w NBA team to his

443
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: house after they won the title, and they showed up

444
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: and he was already on the keys, and then he

445
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 1: just performed for a while and then started riding his

446
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: motorcycle around and disappeared.

447
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a basketball goal in Paisley Park game blouses.

448
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah I know about that. Yeah, okay, so but he

449
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: didn't say it while you were there.

450
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. No, we didn't talk much, but I get there.

451
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 3: I guess. The craziest story is, like I only heard

452
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: about this after he passed away, and of course, like

453
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: after my own experience with him. But apparently he has

454
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: disability to disappear into thin air. And I was telling

455
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 3: someone about it. I was like, yeah, Prince called us

456
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 3: back and he was like, can I play this song

457
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,479
Speaker 3: we had called give Me All Your Love?

458
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 2: Can I play that with you? I really like that song?

459
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 2: What key is it in? Like? Sure? Yeah, So we're

460
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: playing Paisley Park.

461
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: Comes the time where the song's going on and Prince

462
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 3: is nowhere to be seeing, and we get to like

463
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: the middle of the song and I'm like, I guess

464
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: just loop it.

465
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: I don't want to miss the opportunity to play with Prince.

466
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 3: So we're looping the section of the song, and finally

467
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 3: he just pops on the stage. It's wearing a green

468
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 3: velvet jacket, playing a green guitar, and he just starts

469
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: shredding like it was awesome, you know, And then I

470
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: started we double solo a little bit and I was.

471
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: Like, this is amazing.

472
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: And then the song's done after like a while, and

473
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 3: he kisses me on the cheek and I was like wow,

474
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 3: and then he jumps off the stage and disappears in

475
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: thin air. Yeah, Like I was like I had a

476
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 3: next song to do, but I kept being like, where

477
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 3: did he go? There's nowhere to disappear to over there,

478
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: like how did he do it? And so I heard

479
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: later like, yeah, Prince does that, He'll disappear.

480
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: I've ever seen that clip that's like, have you guys

481
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: seen this? I think it's at the Rock and Roll

482
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He throws as a guitar up in

483
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: the air and then never lands. Watch the clip. I'll

484
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 1: send it to y'all later, each one of you individually.

485
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: I believe it.

486
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: I literally almost said I'll put it in the show notes,

487
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: because that's what we do on my show. We'll put

488
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: it in the show notes. We'll send you the link.

489
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: It's insane. You have to watch it. I'll find it later. Okay,

490
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: that's I love that that.

491
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 3: He just disappeared, just vanished. And you know, he's a

492
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: really funny guy too.

493
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if everybody.

494
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 3: Knows that, but he's a great comedic tim and great

495
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: sense of humor, very low voice.

496
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: He called me on the phone, He's like, did you

497
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 2: like that?

498
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: And you know that was either Prince or Shack. I'm

499
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: not sure.

500
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: I did it best I could.

501
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was like, all of a sudden, I

502
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: turned into like a little girl and I was like, yeah,

503
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 3: that was so fine.

504
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

505
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: We got to take another break more with Brittany coming

506
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: up next. Speaking of voices, you made your voice acting

507
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: debut in Thelma, the Unicorn Netflix movie about a mini

508
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: pony who longs to be a star and her dream

509
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: comes true when she disguises herself as a unicorn. The

510
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: character was written with you in mind and designed based

511
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: on you, right down to the hair. Did you learn

512
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: anything about yourself by watching yourself as a cartoon unicorn?

513
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I actually learned that I'm just like the unicorn,

514
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: except the little unicorn has like a little more energy

515
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: than I do.

516
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all I did to do the voice. I

517
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: just like more excited. You know.

518
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: I did see myself in Thelma, and I learned something

519
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 3: through the process, which was, like, I don't feel very

520
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 3: comfortable being vulnerable because there's times in a movie where

521
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: I gotta be like scared or like unsure or like

522
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 3: please don't do this, Like I'm I'm just not like

523
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 3: that in my daily life. So I really struggle with

524
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: doing that. So like I feel like I learned something

525
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: about that, you know. And also when it was when

526
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 3: the opportunity was presented to me, I was like, oh,

527
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: I can't do that. I've never done that before. I

528
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 3: don't know how to do that. That's too much, too

529
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 3: much writing on it. I don't want these people to

530
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: pay me to do that, and then I mess it up.

531
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: But like y'all, if y'all got an opportunity that comes

532
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: to you and you say I don't think I.

533
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: Can do it, Just like, do it? Do it, Just

534
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: do it, because I'm so glad I did it.

535
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know I could do it, and I found

536
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 3: out that I could, And now it kind of changed

537
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: my perception on who I am, Like, oh, yeah, I

538
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: can do things that are scary. You know.

539
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: That's a lesson I learned a couple of years ago,

540
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: and I had to tell myself, like, with certainty, whatever

541
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: comes your way, if someone else thinks you can do

542
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: it and they offer it to you, or the opportunity comes.

543
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 2: Just do it.

544
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: And like particularly because men do that.

545
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: All the time, right, Just do it.

546
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Speaker 1: Just do it, Nike, Thanks sponsor. Okay, so the future.

547
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, you said about stepping away from Alabama Shakes,

548
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: it's important to go where your heart tells you. Never

549
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: feel like you're trapped into something, especially as a creative person.

550
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,239
Speaker 1: I had to follow. I guess you would call it

551
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: the muse. I had to follow where it was coming from,

552
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: and it was just away from that. I had to

553
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: do it. And then earlier this year, you said, the

554
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: door is not closed on a reunion. Is that Are

555
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: you waiting on the Mews to tell you? Is that

556
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: about the relationship with the band? What will help us

557
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: find out if you're ever gonna get back together?

558
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: You probably find out via internet?

559
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: Okay, the internet. Yeah, that's usually how I find most things, though.

560
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll probably pop up on Instagram or something, yeah,

561
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 3: like the Mews. Like I said, like, it's just a conversation.

562
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: Like lots of people ask me about that. Obviously it's

563
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 3: been like ten years, you know, and I'm cool with that.

564
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: My response is and will remain to be, like, when

565
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: that itch comes back up, that's a conversation I'm gonna

566
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: have with the guys. You know, they're both really cool

567
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: about it. And if we feel like creating together, we'll

568
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: create it.

569
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: You know. Doors not closed.

570
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know you just released a new album,

571
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: so it's so mean of me to even ask you

572
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: a sorry, But do you have a timeline in your

573
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: head of when the next one comes? Or is it

574
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: enjoying touring reacting to this one and waiting until the

575
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: music comes and tells you it's time for another.

576
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: You know, usually for me, I've noticed the pattern is

577
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 3: like every three years doesn't have to be that, but

578
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: I just don't know that. For me to make music,

579
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: I have to have actual life experience. I have to

580
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: have things going on. I have to have feelings about things.

581
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: You know.

582
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: To me, yeah, music comes out of thin air, but

583
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: it's also like in response to emotion. So I just

584
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: kind of live my life. And the more life I

585
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: can live, I think, the better album I can make.

586
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, this most recent album, there's a lot

587
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: of breakup songs and when I have a breakup, yeah,

588
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: that was clear. But there was one song that one

589
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: of your one of your friends said, you walked into

590
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: the studio and you just you didn't have much down yet,

591
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: and you just said kind of turn on the mic

592
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: and see what happens and went for it. And that

593
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: that's ended up being so much of the recording. This

594
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: real come from the soul, growling sadness. How do you

595
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: distinguish when you want to make sure you have things

596
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: down to a note and ready to go, and when

597
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: you are willing and ready to go in and just

598
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: feel and see what comes out.

599
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: This is something I've actually learned recently.

600
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 3: Going in unprepared is so much more fun than I

601
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 3: thought it would be to me. That's terrifying, like going

602
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: in with like four songs into studio you paid like

603
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars for and you're just like, hope, I

604
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: get it. You know, it's scary, But I have learned

605
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: to go in there and just let whatever comes to

606
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: you happen.

607
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: Those are always my favorite songs, the.

608
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: Ones that I didn't go down like to the finest detail,

609
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: every single part.

610
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: Can you tell us which ones on the new album

611
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: stand out to you in that way so we can

612
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: listen for it?

613
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

614
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: Sure, Like I have a song called Samson that really

615
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: happens like that, red Flags happened like that.

616
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: There's a lot of songs on this album that just.

617
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: Red flags coming either.

618
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. I thought it was the time to address it.

619
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: And I got a.

620
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: Song tonight that I'll perform too. It's called to Be Still,

621
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: And it was one of those things. The guitar player

622
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: Brad Allen Williams, he was just playing this beautiful chord

623
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: pattern and I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm

624
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: feeling something, you know, And I go outside and I

625
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: come back and have the lyrics, and then I opened

626
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: my mouth and was saying the melody and it just

627
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: happened within a matter of minutes, and I really loved

628
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: that song.

629
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: I'll do that for you all tonight.

630
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's the beauty of being solo too. You

631
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: don't have to say what do y'all think of this?

632
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I like it, so we're good kind

633
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: of Yeah.

634
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I admire other people's opinions if i'm

635
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: if I'm looking for it, but yeah, I wasn't looking

636
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: for it all the time.

637
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair, fair, Okay, I want to do a speed

638
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: round as we're wrapping up here. You just finish the

639
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: tour with Michael Q Andoka. What's your favorite part of touring?

640
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: Favorite part of touring is watching movies on the bus

641
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: with the bands.

642
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Do we have a genre that we usually go to?

643
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: Usually really bad movies? Okay, I don't want to say

644
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: nothing because y'all might know.

645
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we might be in them.

646
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: Because I don't know who y'all know. Y'all might know

647
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: the actors.

648
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: But Steven, oh god, we watch all of his Catalo

649
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: bad movie, Offensive Human. That's a tough combo. Okay. What's

650
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: your least favorite part oftoring? The travel, the journey, the travel,

651
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: the actual Yeah.

652
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: The travel yeah, well, listen, like, sometimes you ride on

653
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: a bus, you sleep in a bunk, right, and sometimes

654
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: it's bumpy and you don't sleep, and sometimes it's too

655
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: cold you're freezing on that, like you're kind of like

656
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: at you have to surrender a little bit to the

657
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: bus and the road and where you are. And some

658
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: places are really really dry and you wake up and

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Speaker 3: your eyes are dried, you know, like just it's just

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Speaker 3: the travel of it is an adventure, for sure. And

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Speaker 3: when I was younger, I loved it. Getting a little

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Speaker 3: bit older, a little bit more particular, just tiny like tiny,

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Speaker 3: tiny bit older, though not much older.

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Speaker 1: Just tiny bit. You're aging slower than the rest of

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Speaker 1: us can almost backwards. Yeah, congrats. What's your favorite city

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Speaker 1: to play in?

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Speaker 2: Ooh gosh, that's hard. I really like Idaho? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know y'all didn't say that comment. Look Boise, Idaho

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Speaker 2: is lit. Okay, Yeah, trust me.

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Speaker 1: Good to know adding it to my list? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Is there a dream venue that you haven't played yet

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Speaker 1: that you want to play?

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Speaker 2: Mmmm? It's a good question too. Not maybe not really

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Speaker 2: like them all off? No, maybe not.

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Speaker 3: But I never a vinuon and be like, oh I

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Speaker 3: can't wait to play that. You know, maybe like the Sydney.

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Speaker 2: Opera Houses is very impressive.

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Speaker 3: I think it would be cool to do like an

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Speaker 3: acoustic thing there and just let the acoustics do what

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Speaker 3: they do.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Favorite snack after a show, ooh, pickles it's fried, or

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Speaker 1: just straight up the jar, the kosher deal okay, spears okay,

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Speaker 1: dream song collaborator. Oh, there would be some sound bowls

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Speaker 1: in that for sure.

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Speaker 2: That'd be cool.

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Speaker 1: That would be dope.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Final question for you, I read that your plan for

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Speaker 1: later in life if you continue aging at all and

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Speaker 1: not backwards, because it'll be tough for a child to do.

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Speaker 2: Benjamin Brittany.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Benjamin Brittany. Good album title, Benjamin Brittany. Okay, So,

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Speaker 1: assuming you age enough to take responsibility for these animals,

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Speaker 1: you want to live on a farm with a bunch

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Speaker 1: of animals. This is also my dream really Okay, but

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Speaker 1: I want to see if we have the same animal plan, okay,

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Speaker 1: because like maybe we could visit each other's farms. All right,

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Speaker 1: you want to go first, Let me know which animals

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Speaker 1: you're planning on. Now you go first, okay, So eleventy dogs,

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Speaker 1: two horses, a donkey, three pigs, maybe a lama or

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Speaker 1: I'll packa because it'll be good for tourism, dollars and

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Speaker 1: the shearing of their You can sell that stuff, so

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Speaker 1: that will just help keep the dollars coming in to

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Speaker 1: care for the animals. Did I say a couple of pigs?

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Speaker 2: Three?

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Speaker 1: Three pigs? Thank you? I'm missing at least one important thing.

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Speaker 1: I'll remember it later, but that chickens, ducks, Oh, chickens

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Speaker 1: of course, chicken chickens. Yeah, all sorts of chickens, chickens, ducks.

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Speaker 1: I'm cool.

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with chickens. I'm gonna have two donkeys, no

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Speaker 3: horses for me. The lama, I packa thing like maybe.

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Speaker 1: I'll sell you on the economic Yeah, ducks.

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Speaker 2: I want ducks, just laying hens. No roosters.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have some guinea fowl and I'm gonna have

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Speaker 3: turn You want to raise turkey and sell it?

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Speaker 1: So lots of birds? Are you going to sell your

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Speaker 1: turkey for me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I mean that's your that's your pet.

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Speaker 3: Uh you got me there, you got me there, We'll

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Speaker 3: keep one for pet.

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Speaker 1: That's really mean, because they're all going to be like,

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Speaker 1: am I the favorite I misspoke.

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Speaker 2: The Turkey. The Turkey is just gonna just gonna time

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Speaker 2: to tell you I'm a vegetarian. Tourism Turkey, tourism Turkey.

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Speaker 1: Every year you end up partning all of them, and

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Speaker 1: that's the bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay, perfect.

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Speaker 1: You have a couple of dogs, right, you didn't name dogs?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I had dogs yet, Okay, So they'll be

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Speaker 2: on the farm too. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get like a Golden Retriever and like I

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Speaker 3: like those little piples that are like twenty pounds, okay,

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Speaker 3: little mini pisnit are cute, okay, and and probably like

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Speaker 3: a couple of winnie dogs.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay. Let's talk about the land where we're gonna buy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where we're going, Yeah, I think there's enough crawl.

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Speaker 2: How you feel about the South? Would you live in

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Speaker 2: the South.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be a problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't blame you. I don't blame you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll come visit your farm, okay, and then you

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Speaker 1: can come to Chicago right outside Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I love it. It's a deal, okay, deal, let's sing

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Speaker 2: on it.

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Speaker 1: You not me, okay, Okay, everybody, Brittany Howard, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Thanks again.

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Speaker 1: To Brittany for being such a great interview guest. I

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Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed the combo as much as I did.

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