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Speaker 1: Yo, yo yo. We live on location. We getting to

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Speaker 1: Miami right now. This is a special live on location

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Speaker 1: tap in. Man, we never had a tap in with

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Speaker 1: a special guest. Man, we got an all time NBA

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Speaker 1: greatness you hear me before we get into the tap

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Speaker 1: in and talk about the season to be and the

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Speaker 1: way too early predictions. Man, we got to give a

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Speaker 1: little kudos to my mets hit going into the Ring

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Speaker 1: of Honor with the Sons.

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Speaker 2: We got a Mari Stinamayer.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you're about to be dean with a prestigious

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Speaker 1: award and getting placed it's kind of like getting your

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Speaker 1: jersey retire slash Hall of Fame or their version of it.

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Speaker 1: How you feel about getting that illustrious award in your season,

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Speaker 1: in your career playing for the Suns, going into the

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Speaker 1: Ring Honor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean it's it's definitely very appreciative, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like being a high school player

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Speaker 3: going straight to the league. Yeah, yeah, and then being

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Speaker 3: able to take that through a career that ends up

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Speaker 3: with the jersey retirement. You know what I'm saying. That's like,

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Speaker 3: that's a special moment they have. They gave you a

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Speaker 3: date yet on what they did. Yeah, March, second March Sex.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, the third month, second day. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's how they want to That's what's up. That's what's up.

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Speaker 4: What are some of the memories of the history of

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Speaker 4: the game that you remember. Guys getting a couple of

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Speaker 4: players that you remember getting their jersey retired and ceremony

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Speaker 4: and their whole family sitting in the middle of Coote

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Speaker 4: were some of the memories that you remember seeing over

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Speaker 4: your career.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the one that stands up the most when

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Speaker 3: Mike got a jersey retired in Chicago, had his family

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Speaker 3: and watching the whole ceremony on how everyone was just

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Speaker 3: like giving him the praise that he deserved from his

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Speaker 3: luxurious career. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So like

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Speaker 3: watching that it was good to watch. It would the

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Speaker 3: past few years watching Timmy get his retired the Spurs

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Speaker 3: was always good to see.

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Speaker 4: How was it did it blindsize you or y I

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Speaker 4: was talking up to it, or did it was.

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Speaker 5: Just a blind side call?

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Speaker 4: It was just like, hey, man, we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 4: retire your jersey this year. How was your reaction to

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Speaker 4: it when they called?

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Speaker 2: It was a blind side of call, do you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It was my son's birthday.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I was out walking the dog actually

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Speaker 3: dinner that night, and I got a call from from Matt.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I got something to tell you. All right, well,

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Speaker 3: you know he's talking about the owner of the new

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, you know what I'm saying. And then he

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Speaker 3: was like explaining how it's gonna work. And then shortly

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Speaker 3: after that, I got Texas from like all the you know,

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Speaker 3: front office people, the congratulations and all these things, and

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Speaker 3: So it was like a great day for me because

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Speaker 3: my son's birthday, it was also namesake and my name

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Speaker 3: has been retired to the Ring of Honor. It was

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Speaker 3: So it was cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's about that time, man.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you definitely is a great and you definitely won

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Speaker 4: the greats out of Phoenix history.

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Speaker 2: Man, some grass bro appreciating super salute on that. Man.

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Speaker 1: Let's get let's get into these storylines of the season.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: First of all, since we talking about Phoenix and you

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Speaker 2: And they made some huge, huge moves.

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Speaker 1: This summer, and you know, they walk into the season

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Speaker 2: Them, and they just made a couple of extra moves.

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Speaker 1: On the tail end of all of those other moves

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big Nurkish Nurkish Center.

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Speaker 1: So so what do you what do you see the sons,

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Speaker 3: I like what's going on Booked the Last man Standing

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Speaker 3: They mean a lot of changes brought in KD, Bradley Bell.

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Speaker 3: When you bring it, when you bring in KD, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, that kind of help with Book

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Speaker 3: Aiden and bringing Norkidge and you got you got a

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Speaker 3: You got shooters around your core players, So that that's

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Speaker 3: successful because you got your offensive talent with Book, KD

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt it was important for them to make

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Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons. You know, he came back

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Speaker 1: to one season last season and hadn't talked to Manti

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Speaker 2: Then you know, how man we get to a new team.

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Speaker 1: I hope that he has a you know, a hell

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Speaker 1: of a new fresh start for Portland, and you know

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have any of that energy stuck around, you

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Speaker 1: know how, sometimes it'd be just as simple as us

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Speaker 1: just moving to a due place, getting the fresh start

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, but I think they needed that in things.

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Speaker 1: He needed to go and they needed him to go

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Speaker 1: because it wasn't working.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason, it wasn't working. It wasn't working.

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Speaker 3: And I think I think, you know, Aiden probably wasn't

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Speaker 3: you gotta, you gotta dominate channel. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Like you got you gotta bring it. Every number one pick,

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Speaker 3: topick in the draft, and you got a chance to

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Speaker 3: win the championship and you.

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Speaker 1: Got all the tools. When we look at you, your game,

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Speaker 1: you you got everything.

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Speaker 3: You gotta bring. You gotta bring it. And so I

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Speaker 3: think I think the chemistry that didn't work out for

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Speaker 3: that shit kind of over them and get him going.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this on the Phoenix side, like uh,

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Speaker 4: you have KD, you got book, you got Bradley, do

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Speaker 4: you think they should pursue a starting point guard or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm always advocate of having a point

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Speaker 3: you can control the floor the game. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. The teammate going are or three on the

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Speaker 3: three score run, you can stop that by getting Katie

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Speaker 3: it don't have to be a luxurist, you know, Hall

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Speaker 3: So you can get those guys a rock when they

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Speaker 3: need it. What we feel in black? What do you

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Speaker 3: think about dang dollar?

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Speaker 1: The trade that we knew was eventually common, But we

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Speaker 1: had no damn clue that the Milwaukee Bucks was gonna

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Speaker 1: to satisfied Big Yiannis and one suit like how like

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Speaker 1: that all called everybody else God?

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Speaker 2: But what do we think? How do they look now?

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Speaker 1: You know, Drew Holliday is gone, he's in Boston, but

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Speaker 1: they got Dame, they still got Milton, they still got Portis,

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Speaker 1: they obviously got Jannis, they still got Lopez Crowder.

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Speaker 2: They look like what could be a potential champion. What

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Speaker 4: I think they was always a champion, could contender without Dame,

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Speaker 4: but just losing Grayson Allen, losing Drew Holliday and you

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Speaker 4: add Dame to that, it's gonna be smoking the city,

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Speaker 4: no question when you when you put that together, and

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Speaker 4: I feel like he's the perfect the perfect punch for them.

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Speaker 4: He's the perfect punch for Giannis. I feel like he's

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Speaker 4: gonna elevate his game even more because a lot of

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Speaker 4: stuff that Jannis had to do, Dame is gonna take

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Speaker 4: pressure off of it. And when Jannis is, you know,

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Speaker 4: Lamar giving you forty seven minutes to just kill every

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Speaker 4: time you got his closer and last few minutes, it's

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Speaker 5: So I think it's perfect for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah's got the mentality too, bro Like. What I like

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Speaker 3: about him is he got he got that competitive spirit

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Speaker 3: you understand playing those games. He I ain't working out

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Speaker 2: Like, and then on the.

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Speaker 3: Court, you want to you want to attack everybody like

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Speaker 3: show your dominance. And that's the mentality you gotta have

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Speaker 3: when you're trying to win a championship and you're trying

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Speaker 3: to be the best. And then you got Dame who's

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Speaker 3: a finesse solemn assassin. You know what I'm saying, They're gonna,

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Speaker 3: they're gonnay're gonna be a force to be reckoned with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it make it makes it because he's the perfect

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Speaker 1: perfect piece for them, Like you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: like you just said, Giannis can dominate you the entire game,

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Speaker 1: whole game, just just in the end kill you. And

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Speaker 1: then it's like, okay. Where he may not be his

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Speaker 1: most most dominant is at the end of games, closing

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Speaker 1: games with shots and doing things like that when they're

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Speaker 1: trying to stop him from getting the rim. Now they

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Speaker 1: bring in, if not the most elite closer, one of

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Speaker 1: he's the top two three guy as far as closing

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Speaker 1: and hitting big shots and doing that type. That's Dame time.

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Speaker 1: That's what he does. So for me, it's like, this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be scary to see it, and it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a matchmade in heaven. And I know as much as Dame,

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Speaker 1: you know, had this hole set on Miami when that

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Speaker 1: call came through, he had to turn around like.

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Speaker 2: Like damn, I mean this is like down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't now, you big Greek freaks donning there

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Speaker 1: The dominant thing, dude, that he is in his prime

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Speaker 1: and you got this much time to go with him

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Speaker 1: and a supporting cast. Listen, you get the lot over

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Speaker 1: with that one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's I think it's a special thing when

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Speaker 4: you have already two good players in Militant and and Nis,

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Speaker 4: and then you bring a another player in that can

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Speaker 2: And person.

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Speaker 3: We need somebody to protect the basket. But I guess

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Speaker 3: they feel like they're perimeterive. Guys should be able to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like we're in the league where we

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Speaker 5: I loved you Howiday going there.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's the perfect fit for him, But

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Speaker 1: Even I still like Horford, you know, Horford the trustee,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he gotta be almost the first him all

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Speaker 2: He dedicated season to his son.

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Speaker 3: You're taking care of yourself. Now, if he does that

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm waiting on Ada top seventy five,

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Speaker 5: I'm waiting on that year for him, and I hope

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Speaker 4: I hope it is this year because I feel like

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's really about efficiency, yeah, right. In order

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm just being realistic.

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Speaker 1: I don't need nor do I expect Ad to play

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Speaker 2: I don't I'm not asking him to play eighty.

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Speaker 1: Two, but I do need you to be out there

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Speaker 1: Like for me, I'm not. I feel like it's unrealistic

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Speaker 2: You could have tried to do something about that.

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Speaker 5: I just think it's time for you know, he supposed

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Speaker 4: You're starting to see all these big men getting named

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Speaker 5: So I just want it to match everything.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the Lakers overall as a team though,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, What do we feel about the situation is

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Speaker 1: going on right now in Philly with James Harden the

440
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Speaker 1: front office, and you know he wants out all of

441
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 1: the different things that he said about Darryl Moore.

442
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Speaker 2: He's a liar, Like, what do we feel about? How? Where? What? Where?

443
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,920
Speaker 2: Is that situation trend into? How is it going to

444
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Speaker 2: be signed?

445
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Speaker 1: At this point, he hadn't been the training camp yet,

446
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 1: he missed media day.

447
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Speaker 2: How do you see that plan out for him?

448
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,440
Speaker 3: It's messy, man. Any any time you're conducted business, it's

449
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 3: never smart to go public and have an announcement about somebody.

450
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Speaker 2: In part, I agree because it makes it harder to

451
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Speaker 2: deal with.

452
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Speaker 3: And now it's harder to deal with Now you got

453
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Speaker 3: all these opinions out in the world chiming in, and

454
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Speaker 3: it makes it just hard to come up with an

455
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Speaker 3: agreeance with whoever you're in business with you know what

456
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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So that was the first mistake. Now it's

457
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 3: already messy. It's like it's like dating the girl. Just

458
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 3: can't stop talking, running them out, you know what I'm saying, Like,

459
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I got this guy. I gotta let this go. Yeah,

460
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 3: you know, I'm everybody got opinion now, so everybody in

461
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,199
Speaker 3: an opinion. So now it's like, what do you do?

462
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 3: Do you like, bring James in and bring them around

463
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 3: the players? Is that going to hinder the chemistry of

464
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Speaker 3: the team. You know what I'm saying. You let them

465
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Speaker 3: go and let them stay home so they can try

466
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Speaker 3: to be the best version of themselves as a team.

467
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Speaker 3: Without James, it's just a messing situation.

468
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Speaker 1: Man.

469
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Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough. It's tough to figure that part out.

470
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, we in the league where it's

471
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Speaker 4: a double leedged sword. You know, you get some guys

472
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Speaker 4: who feel like they should be playing on the team

473
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Speaker 4: and getting minutes. You get some guys who playing on

474
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Speaker 4: the team with James. I'm big on energy. You know,

475
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Speaker 4: y'all trying to win a championship and your your whole

476
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 4: season every season now, when you got an MVP, it's

477
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Speaker 4: like championship up or bus right, So you're taking a

478
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Speaker 4: long chance by not getting rid of him and bringing

479
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Speaker 4: him in the locker room with that energy, and it's

480
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Speaker 4: starting to season off right that it's hard to start

481
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Speaker 4: to see life like that when y'all need to bond

482
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Speaker 4: and be brothers to go as far as you need

483
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Speaker 4: to go. No question, it's scary these days when you

484
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Speaker 4: have guys asking for trades or you have guys in

485
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Speaker 4: there feeling about that. And I don't knock the guys

486
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Speaker 4: all the time because you know we're a like I say,

487
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Speaker 4: a double edged store lead a guy they won't even

488
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Speaker 4: call you until you you traded that.

489
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Speaker 5: So it's a double edged sword with so I'm not

490
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Speaker 5: on all the players.

491
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Speaker 1: Do you feel what that energy is? Do y'all feel

492
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Speaker 1: that that right now? Hardness? In like a funny scenario though,

493
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Speaker 1: because of his status, who he is, what people think

494
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Speaker 1: of his game at this point, what what he feels

495
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Speaker 1: he should be played like, do you think he's getting

496
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Speaker 1: into that to that weird situation kind of like what

497
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Speaker 1: Mellow was in towards the end. Do you think that

498
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Speaker 1: could be James Harden at some point like where he's

499
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Speaker 1: sitting here, he's looking for a team to be on

500
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Speaker 1: and and and that's not happening for whatever reason.

501
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you only get depending on who you is, You

502
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 4: only get too many chances. You only get so many chances.

503
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Speaker 4: I mean, you can only get so many chances to

504
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 4: jump from team to team. You only get so many

505
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Speaker 4: chances to asks out. He kind of running out of

506
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Speaker 4: all his good cards, you know. Yeah, And it's getting

507
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Speaker 4: to a point whereas this is what you gotta deal with.

508
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Speaker 5: So I think it's he pushing it a little bit.

509
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Speaker 4: This can be where you just get left, you know

510
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 4: how this NBA is. It can be the smallest thing,

511
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Speaker 4: and that can be the label that you have on

512
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Speaker 4: your name for the rest of your career where every

513
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 4: team you go to, the first question they asked is so, yeah,

514
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Speaker 4: so what's up with that stuff that happened is on?

515
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Speaker 2: So I do think it could be saligable, Nah, I

516
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Speaker 2: think so.

517
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's just scary when you see because

518
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Speaker 1: I never thought what happened to Mellow could happen Like

519
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Speaker 1: it was like what like still.

520
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Speaker 2: Got game right now?

521
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like what you mean so

522
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: like that's what I'm saying, Like when you cause it's that,

523
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: it's that same thing, like when you get hard and

524
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Speaker 1: it's not just like you're getting whatever player. You think,

525
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: like this is a even if he himself isn't the problem,

526
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: he's just viewed as this huge personality.

527
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Speaker 2: He got crazy.

528
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Speaker 1: You know, he was who he was the whole time

529
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Speaker 1: he was doing his thing. So like that's like a

530
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Speaker 1: big thing you bring into whatever locker room.

531
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Speaker 2: I think.

532
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Speaker 3: I think I think when I say salvageable, I think

533
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 3: the best way to go about it at this point

534
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Speaker 3: for James is to have a conversation with Dan Morey

535
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Speaker 3: and really express how he feels and what the situation entails,

536
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Speaker 3: and they have that conversation and then be able to

537
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Speaker 3: make it, you know, address that to the media in

538
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Speaker 3: a sense, because he's the one that came out to

539
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Speaker 3: me that said this guy's a liar and all these

540
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Speaker 3: things and called him in out of his name. This

541
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Speaker 3: man has a family, you know. H So, but if

542
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Speaker 3: you if you come out and then also say, hey,

543
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Speaker 3: Darren Moore and I had to comeversation. We are working

544
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Speaker 3: this thing out, you know, for the better of the team,

545
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 3: and leave it at that with your teammates said, hey, guys,

546
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Speaker 3: I'm back. I'm all I'm in for for for throttle, no,

547
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 3: no stepping out of situation. Them all in yeah, and

548
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: then they can now become a cohesive team.

549
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Speaker 2: But it doesn't sound like Harden's there.

550
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Speaker 4: It's like you old money, you like, I don't want

551
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: to hear all that stuff. I just want my money right.

552
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Speaker 1: I feel like this squad who's gonna pay him with

553
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Speaker 1: the next qua put this show that he worth what

554
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Speaker 1: he wants.

555
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Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question of this, Like you

556
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Speaker 4: see a lot of teams I don't want to say

557
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 4: team up or making super teams and so far far,

558
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Speaker 4: But you played with a team that had two superstars,

559
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Speaker 4: possibly Hall of famers, all three of y'all played together.

560
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Speaker 4: You coached on the team that brought three superstars possibly

561
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Speaker 4: Hall of famers. You see all these teams getting together,

562
00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 4: the Giannis and Militant and Lillard, Jason Tatum over here, Phoenix,

563
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 4: Golden State got CP over there, not trying to work

564
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Speaker 4: it out. What are some of the things that you

565
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Speaker 4: remember when you played together to get the camaraderie and

566
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Speaker 4: get it right and some of the things when you've

567
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Speaker 4: seen it was coaching that. He was like, man and

568
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Speaker 4: we would did this morning kind of came together?

569
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Speaker 5: More?

570
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Speaker 4: How would it go? And what advice would you give

571
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Speaker 4: these teams that's trying to put something like that together.

572
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Speaker 3: Well, I think as a player, you know, when you

573
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Speaker 3: have when you have your core group, where you have

574
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Speaker 3: your franchise, your cornerstone guy, you try to build around

575
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Speaker 3: that player. So when I was in Phoenix, I was

576
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Speaker 3: that guy. We went and brought Steve to Phoenix. Sean

577
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: was there, Sean was already there, some was already an

578
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Speaker 3: All Star before I got there. He was already putting

579
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Speaker 3: up numbers, so you know, and then I got drafted

580
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: to Phoenix, and then Joe Johnson was already there. So

581
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 3: we had a nice little core of guys, and then

582
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Speaker 3: we went and brought Steve Ben to kind of add

583
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 3: to that. Right, So our team was built organically. But

584
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: now we have players that's trying to join other teams.

585
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: I can see how like CP for an example, he's,

586
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Speaker 3: you know, later in his career, he want to be

587
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Speaker 3: on a contending team. I understand that when in your prime,

588
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: I'm really not trying to join somebody else's team. That's

589
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: competing against me, I gotta do what I gotta do

590
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: in a gym to beat you. You see what I'm saying.

591
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: It's like me and my prime leaving Phoenix and going

592
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Speaker 3: to San Antonio. That happen, you know, you know what

593
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But from a coaching standpoint, when when I

594
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: was part of the coaching staff in Brooklyn, we had James,

595
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: we had Kyrie, we had KD. Kyrie and KD was

596
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: already there, right, so we're like, well, as a coach,

597
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: we're like, we're gonna want to try to build the

598
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: best team possible in order to win a championship. So

599
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: we're all for bringing in the next superstar player. But

600
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 3: it's a matter of now cohesively getting all those minds

601
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 3: to be on one page, right, And so that takes

602
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, cultivating, you know what I'm saying.

603
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: You got to talk to it.

604
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 3: You have to talk to each player, have to bring

605
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 3: them in together, figure out what's the objective, how everyone

606
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 3: feel about this, about this defensive strategy, how you feel

607
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: about that, how you feel about the offensive game plan,

608
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: and then once they all feel comfortable in that space,

609
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: then you can work it out. But if you have

610
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: players who are not trying to listen. I want the

611
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: ball more. You're like, wait, you want the ball more.

612
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm the lead scorer. If you have all that going on,

613
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: then it's gonna be a mess.

614
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Speaker 4: How important is the off the court like relationships. I

615
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: remember when I was with the Clippers, we used to

616
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 4: be together all the time.

617
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Speaker 5: And I remember when I was talking to Q he

618
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 5: was in Phoenix.

619
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 4: Y'all was together all the time, having events at each

620
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: other house, doing stuff on the road with each other, eating.

621
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 4: I was important the chemistry off the court instead of

622
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: just separating, going to your families and I'll see you

623
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 4: at practice.

624
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean off the court camaraderie is just importance

625
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: on the court. It's almost fifty to fifty. Yeah, you

626
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like in Phoenix, we always out brother, brother,

627
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 3: it's dinner, brother, We're gathering at somebody's house, hanging out

628
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: with the family and the kids, getting all the children.

629
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: Like that family environment allows you to have, you know,

630
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: conversations on the court like hey, you missed this assignment.

631
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: You let your man drive baseline in the middle. He's

632
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: not taking it as a negative.

633
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 5: Approach at him like that.

634
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, either I got you, you

635
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, So that that off the court

636
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: chemistry allow you to hold your teammates accountable without them

637
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: getting offensive because you're saying they made a mistake, you

638
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

639
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: That's how important is how do we view Memphis now?

640
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: I mean they had a lot of momentum. I feel

641
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: like it's kind of slowed down, especially with you know,

642
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: Job about to be in not injury, but suspended for

643
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: twenty five games for all of that stuff that went on.

644
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: But they got d Rose. Dads brought him in as

645
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: a free agent. Dylan Brooks is gone. What do we see?

646
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: What do we see Memphis doing this year? I kind

647
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: of don't understand.

648
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: I know, Joe's out twenty five games, but you got

649
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: jib d Rose, you got Marcus Smart, and you got

650
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 4: Bang and it's like all of them are like the same.

651
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 5: Height, they like the same bill.

652
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: It's like it's four of them, like who's gonna be

653
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: died man out?

654
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 5: You just gave Bang a hunting and and what.

655
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Speaker 4: Man?

656
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Speaker 2: So he like, you know, he ain't really in that

657
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: point guard frank.

658
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 4: Still, but he's part of their rotation. It's just them guys,

659
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: just like similar larities. Is a lot closer than we

660
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: were thinking. Somebody gonna get smart ball out the middle.

661
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: You know, Bang got in his favor, he's doing he

662
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I think he's out of that group of names you

663
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: just name. He's the best scorer, he's the best scorer. Yeah, John,

664
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean Josh First of all, joh

665
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: ain't even in this conversation because when he comes back,

666
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: that's all.

667
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

668
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: But even when he gets there, it's not really a

669
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: question like it's John gonna play like you're fucking right,

670
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: He's right back and like you that's what I'm saying,

671
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Like you talk about I wouldn't really mean comparing him

672
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: to that to John, talk about the rest of them

673
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: when you talk about smart you know whoever else? Even

674
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: d Rose, he's a he's he averaged like over twenty

675
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: last year.

676
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 5: Ye got busy.

677
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they's a getting bucket So you know, he he

678
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: separates himself from that that kind of conversation like I'm

679
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: the best bucket geter right here.

680
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

681
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: Memphis, well coach right, they got they got a good coach,

682
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: and so I expected him to win a lot of

683
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: games from a coaching strategy standpoint. But like you were saying,

684
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: the miles, they small up front, and you're playing against

685
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: you're in the West, you know what I'm saying. So

686
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna be a top five

687
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: team in the West. I don't see that. I see

688
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: it on the bottom half of that. Yeah they do,

689
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: and then they losing job of twenty five games.

690
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: The one thing I want to see out of them

691
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: because I'm a big fan I like, I like Jaron

692
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: Jackson Jr. And I think he's a I think he's

693
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: a stud. He the only my only, only only complaint

694
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: is he has to play without foul. Yeah, he files

695
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: out too much. He's in foul trouble too much. Where

696
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: you know how that is. You can't be in when

697
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: you need to be if you're in fire trouble. So

698
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: I think that's like, that's the only complaint I got

699
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: with him period. With his game everything, I mean, he's

700
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: a biggiger space. He be leading the league in blocks,

701
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: He beating it up at the run. You know what

702
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Offensively, he could do either hand. He got

703
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: the whole package. I just need him to figure out

704
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: how to not file right, And that's the key.

705
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: When you're a shot blocker, you always think about blocking

706
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: the shot, and it takes a level of maturity to

707
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: know like okay, when I can block it, how to

708
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: be patient, how to be right? You have to Maturity

709
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: will help kind of get that all figured out. Yeah,

710
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: that's that's the only thing with him. I think everything

711
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: else he big time.

712
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you yell about the heat.

713
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 4: He come off of amazing run, a historic run in

714
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 4: the in the in the playoffs last year and get

715
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: always to the finals in Love. But they didn't add nothing,

716
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 4: and they lost a lot this summer events and they

717
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: had a failure summer that you would say. They didn't

718
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: get none of the big names and add nothing to

719
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: what they had, and they lost a lot that was

720
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: helping them out.

721
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: They lost a lot. They lost a lot, They lost

722
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: a lot.

723
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: They did not bring in anyone else that's going to

724
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: help them take another step, to take another step. So,

725
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: you know, failure is a tough world. But I think

726
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: say that, But here's the thing they got. They got

727
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: a good coaching staff. And what I'm saying is development wise,

728
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: you know, right, So the players that have now they're

729
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: going to develop into being something that we haven't seen

730
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: from them before. So they still'll still be a top

731
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: team or team to focus on. But they did not

732
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: bring in anybody else. They did not improve from a

733
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: roster standpoint far as Regency.

734
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: Being somebody that you know you and your career, you

735
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: worked out with Dream. Yeah, what do you think Jannis

736
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: can take away from him going We saw as summer

737
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: that he spent time and work with how I came

738
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: to Dream. What do you think he can take away

739
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: from that and learn and bring to his game?

740
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

741
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: I mean when I was in New York, coach Mike

742
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: Woodson wanted me to play the five and develop more

743
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: of a back to the basket game, and him and

744
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: Dream was good friends. So He's like, stat, I want

745
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: you to go down and work out with Dream, you know,

746
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: for a few weeks. I'm like, yeah, cool, that's cool,

747
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: No problem with that. I was already training heavy that

748
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: something anyways, And so I flew into Houston and started

749
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: training with him and at a lot of a lot

750
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: of things I learned was very helpful, you know what

751
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like I learned certain ways to attack the posts,

752
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: certain angers to to look at when I'm on the post,

753
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: how to attack, when to attack, what kind of footwork

754
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 3: is needed for certain moves. So all that was helpful,

755
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: and I took all that knowledge back to New York

756
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: and I still worked on all that even in practice

757
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: before practice or after practice to kind of master it.

758
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: So I think Giannis it would help him all so

759
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: in this post game, right And I don't know if

760
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: he saw that.

761
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: He gets I feel like, bro, if he get a

762
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: post game, it's gonna be curtaining because that the one

763
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: thing that they do, like everybody talk about, they wall

764
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: up against him and don't let him get his full

765
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: headed sting. If he gets a post up, it's over.

766
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: So now I don't need that. I can just turn

767
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: and drop, drop, drop into the block.

768
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: You can drop. When you can drop somebody.

769
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 5: It's over. It's over.

770
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: Like that's like, think about it.

771
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: That's what Paul piers Kobe's They wherever they drop it,

772
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: give it to him like if he developed a like

773
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: some get some little mellow ship going like man, listen, yeah.

774
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: No doubt.

775
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: Back to the basket moves, footwork, jump hook left, right

776
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: up and under the walls. All that read the double

777
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: team when it comes kicking the ball out to shooters. Yeah,

778
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: so like they can't double team too much down there,

779
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: a middle team. Right, he's struggling.

780
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: Everybody in the post, so he can get he can

781
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: establish his position easily. So and then if you just

782
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 3: take that knowledge that how King's get them, that's gonna

783
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: be that's gonna be added bonus for his game.

784
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: I know this league has got small.

785
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: Do you think cpn and Steph Kurby can start the

786
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 4: game together?

787
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: Maybe? Right?

788
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: Because CP is a floor general, right, so Stephan is

789
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: a guy that's gonna come off screens. So see, he

790
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 3: can get everybody the ball. It's a matter of can

791
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: he start with Draymond? Yeah, because Draymond. Draymond's also he's.

792
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: A guy that does that.

793
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

794
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: But if Draymond, I think last year Draymond started coming

795
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: off the bench.

796
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: That's not happening. So that may not happen. I'm not

797
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the dynamics are. But you know,

798
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: CP could be a Draymond when he's not on the court.

799
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: I think for me knowing CP, Draymond, Clay, Steph, those

800
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: guys are brilliant when it comes to basketball. You know

801
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and high level high IQ dudes. I

802
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: think I think Steve Kroll find a way to make

803
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: that worry man. I don't They started Clay, Steph and

804
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: Pool together once upon a time, so I don't see

805
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: why CP wouldn't be able to start. And even if

806
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: he didn't start, I still see him being able to

807
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: be one of the first guys off the bench and

808
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: now not even coming in for Steph stuff for whoever.

809
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: Now Steph becomes Ray Allen, Reggie Miller his hand, and.

810
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: You got the point guard who's gonna always know how

811
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: to get the battle whoever need to get it. Imagine that,

812
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: Now you sub CP in, and you got him at

813
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: the point, and you got Clay. You basically got Ray

814
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: Allen and Reggie Miller saying Clay and Steph running around

815
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: coming off screens.

816
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: And I'm saying this, but what if you you have

817
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: a starting lineup of you got Book, you got you

818
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 4: got Book, KD and Bill running your one two three?

819
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: How Stephan and CP gonna play, how they gonna guard,

820
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: how they like?

821
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: What they're gonna defensively is gonna be a typical task, right,

822
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: because you know you put them in the post.

823
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, how they gonna guard like, that's what I'm saying,

824
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: having them too on that point, and CP is not

825
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 4: the same guard.

826
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

827
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: Defense, that's the same thing. You could add like not

828
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: going to anybody being disrespectful. But Stephan Pool aren't elite defenders.

829
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: And they started and played heavy minutes throughout a championship run, and.

830
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: It seemed like they was playing a lot together, especially

831
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: when Steph came back. They didn't feel like they was

832
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: playing They do a lot of minutes together. It feels

833
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: like he was I'm subbing for you for Clay or

834
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: I'm subbing you for Steph.

835
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 5: You the one to come out stuff you my first up.

836
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to think, you got to think to

837
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: Steve Kurk, gonna figure out a defensive strategy. Yeah, they

838
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: try to set picking rolls and they try to switch.

839
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: Then they can triple switch right push push CP back out,

840
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: Draymond take the roll out. So they'll they'll work on

841
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: different strategies to figure out how they can compensate the

842
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: defensive side.

843
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this use a long time teammate,

844
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: a mellow he just recently retied. We was in Puerto

845
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: Rico the Jordan Brand celebrated retirement this that and the third, crazy,

846
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: unbelievable top seventy five career. In your mind, where should

847
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: his jerseys be retired? Where should it hit the rafters?

848
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I only think it's only clearly between Denver

849
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: and New York.

850
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: But should it be both? Should it be one or

851
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: the other? Or how? You says?

852
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: A good question because he had he had almost an

853
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: identical career in both places.

854
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

855
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the face of Denver for the whole

856
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: time he was dead. Then he took it to New

857
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: York and did the same thing. I'm not mad at both.

858
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, playoff success almost the same.

859
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: I think he went to the Western Finals doing Denver.

860
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question because he had a lot

861
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: of he had a lot of a lot of success

862
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: in both places. I know Denver is where it all

863
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: started exactly, but New York is also where he had.

864
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: He had a great run there also. That's why it's

865
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: it's hard to say which. I'm not mad at both

866
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 3: teams doing that. I feel like he deserves it. Yeah,

867
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: he top seventy five time, one of the greatest offensive

868
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 3: players I ever seen, period. You know what I'm saying

869
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: like I ain't. I mean mellow, Mellow scored fifty points.

870
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: All jumpers come on now, all in triple threat, I

871
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: mean dynamic, you know what I'm saying. So he definitely

872
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: got to get respected to know and both, shit, it's possible.

873
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: I think so too. What do you think Black, I

874
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: think both.

875
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: I think both of them need to give even though

876
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 4: he's he worked number fifteen like Joker, I think that's

877
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 4: still oh yeah, yeah, yeah, get retired at fifteen.

878
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: They both well he played number save played with seven

879
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: in New York. Yeah, yeah, seven going up in the.

880
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: Last night with Jokers with Joker down there, and that's

881
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: crazy think about that. Yeah, I feel like they both should.

882
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Denver probably not thinking about retiring Jersey anyways.

883
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: If they gave Joker fifteen, well that was initially, but

884
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: you know, that's a lot of a lot of years.

885
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: You think they think thirty two when I left, I

886
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: mean they had they had, uh the shak shack at

887
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: thirty two.

888
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a tough one.

889
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 4: That's tough one with joking with fifteen that you just

890
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 4: we lost in the Olympics, well in the World Cup

891
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 4: this year. Do you feel like it's time for us

892
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: to go ahead and load up and bring on them

893
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: redeemed teams or them dream teams and put our best

894
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 4: foot forward next summer.

895
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, it's starting to commit. KD.

896
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: Lebron staph On the commit they didn't committed already already,

897
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: it's already begun.

898
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: Started.

899
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 4: So if you, uh, if you had to pick a

900
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: starting lineup out of the guys that you feel that

901
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: should go and they should be the starter, who would

902
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 4: be the five to be starting starting five?

903
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: Steph at the point book at the two, KD. Lebron

904
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: On and at the five slots to question mark right,

905
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: because I'm not I'm not totally sure who's the best

906
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 3: like American five, A D, A D, him and bam

907
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: probably right, and I will probably go with A D

908
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: at the five in that case. Yeah, that's a good five.

909
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 3: That's a good five.

910
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 2: Let me hear this. Who y'all picked for who's gonna

911
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: win m v P this year.

912
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 5: It's gonna be surprised to say.

913
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 4: I don't want to just out, but man, I think

914
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 4: Dame Lillard got a good chance of just going over

915
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: there and just really being an m VP candidate.

916
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 5: Okay, I think Okay, I think Dame Lillard is I'm

917
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 5: with it.

918
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm going with the number one Jersey and Phoenix champ.

919
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 3: I think that he got the book because the reason

920
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 3: why I said, because they could be the top team

921
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: in the West, right.

922
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: At the top of the league and at the top

923
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: of the league.

924
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 3: And that team is somewhat built around him, and he's

925
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: gonna get his numbers, so he have a chance to

926
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: be the league MVP if that, if that continues.

927
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm going with Jason Tatum. He was like, I felt

928
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: like if it was the first half of a season

929
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: m VP, he would have had that last year definite.

930
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: And we know how, we know how a young fella

931
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: trying to he's trying to pull up, he trying to

932
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: get to it. I think I think I think Tatum,

933
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think this could be his year.

934
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: Man. I think he got a solid team. Just like

935
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: you said with book.

936
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: He gonna see gonna be somewhere around the top of

937
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: the league, top of the Eastern and wins and record

938
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: and all of that.

939
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: We know that plays a big part.

940
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: But I think I think he gonna he gonna show

941
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: another phase to his game and he gonna he gonna

942
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: take another step this year.

943
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Defensive play of the Year.

944
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 4: I got a d I think if a d played

945
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 4: them eighty two games or the seventy something games, like

946
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: you said, I got a.

947
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 5: D up there, maybe a defensive player.

948
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmm, I'm going to say.

949
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 2: Defense.

950
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like he's the defender on their team.

951
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: He's the one.

952
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say bam or Drew holiday I was gonna

953
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: say so because I think begin with Boston, they're gonna

954
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: be good.

955
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: They're gonna be on TV.

956
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 5: He's only two point guards to ever.

957
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think, I think that's gonna

958
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: I think, but I think more. Yeah, I think Bam

959
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: or Drew, but I think I'm almost leaning toward Drew

960
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: a little more because I think they're gonna be better

961
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: as a team, that'll have a better record and all that,

962
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: and that kind of matters when you get down to

963
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: that stuff.

964
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: No doubt. Rookie of the Year, this is a good one.

965
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: You got vic and and don't sleep chat.

966
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: Homegren, although technically in his second year, will be considered

967
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: a rookie. So you know you still got Brandon Miller.

968
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: You still got Anthony Black. You still got a lot

969
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: of different guys. We know how to go pop up

970
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: and just be hooping.

971
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 4: Right, My young fella from from Alabama, man, Brandon Miller,

972
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: I think hes gonna be I think he's gonna be.

973
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 5: Special about six nine, any yeah you about six eight?

974
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: So you got B Miller. Okay, shout out B Miller,

975
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: young fella. Yeah, I'm not mad with that. Victim may

976
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: be my choice.

977
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 5: That's a great choice.

978
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean you gotta get a

979
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: little stronger to maintain that eighty two game schedule.

980
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

981
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: Not mad at that. We know the all eyes gonna

982
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: be right down. Uh, I'm gonna go with check I'm

983
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: gonna go with check Man. I feel like he got

984
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: a kind of like a he got she he had to,

985
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, you know, he was hurt all last year.

986
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: He got to live that NBA life and see something

987
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: kind of what goes into it and see how other

988
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: guys prepare and being be traveling and see what you know,

989
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: long trips and different things work look like.

990
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: So I think and not only that, I mean more

991
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: he cold, you know, he wanted.

992
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: Them like and I think you know he's gonna be

993
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: exciting to see him get added to that young OKC

994
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: team and see what he could bring. And I think

995
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna be right there in the mix with with

996
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: with getting that award. I think, you know it's gonna

997
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: be tough. It's gonna be a tight one.

998
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 5: Coach of the Year.

999
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year huh.

1000
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna go with Asan Griffin.

1001
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, first year coach.

1002
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: Now what that get the best breck in the league

1003
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: or kind.

1004
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: Of they be the top one or two in the

1005
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 4: conference league. So yeah, I say coach, yeah him. I

1006
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: feel like they're gonna have a good season his first

1007
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 4: year coaching.

1008
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: Coach of the Year huh yeah. First name came to

1009
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: mind with Tim.

1010
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 5: Timberdau with you know, you know, I was just gonna say.

1011
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: If the Knicks, if the Knicks tighten up right, if

1012
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: they if they if they take one much step, which

1013
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 3: I think Julius random in the gym like crazy this summer,

1014
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: So his approach to the game's gonna be great. A

1015
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: yeah till the Bruns had a great run with the

1016
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: Feeble World Games, so I think they may come back

1017
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: with some really, really chemistry and Timodo will get them

1018
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: boys on the right track. That would be my pick.

1019
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go opposite of like the best team in

1020
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: the league type record, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go

1021
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: email Doka. He turned them young boys around and get

1022
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: Houston because they got a lot of talent and they

1023
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: don't like I feel like he's in the scenario where

1024
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: they don't have to have the best record in the league.

1025
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 1: But like if he get them looking the right way

1026
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: and trending the right way, and you know, they they up,

1027
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: they wins and get close and something like that, and

1028
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: they playing the right type of boy, I think he could.

1029
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 2: He could.

1030
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: He could sneak be a sneaky PiZZ I like. I like,

1031
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, he may know what he's doing.

1032
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 2: That's what I said.

1033
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: Like him, man, I'm excited for Chauncey and what he gathered.

1034
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: You know, you're in school. He got the Anthony Simmons,

1035
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: he just got aid, he got Robert Williams, right, you

1036
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: got a whole young court. Yeah, I'm excited to see

1037
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: what he do down there.

1038
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: Got his hands for with the Clippers.

1039
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the health bug it's just they just

1040
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 4: got to be healthy to compete.

1041
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 5: They have all the two If.

1042
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: Y'all had to pick a team and say, like, gonna

1043
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: be a surprise team, nobody ain't really talking about or

1044
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: thinking about who y'all think.

1045
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 4: Okay see, I think, okay see, it's gonna be the

1046
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 4: surprise team. Shay Gil Chris is crazy. Thirty a game

1047
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: they get checked back, they got giddy, like they they

1048
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: deep as a young squad that actually can play and

1049
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: and got some years in it. So I'm excited to

1050
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 4: see them next year. That's gonna be asleep. They made

1051
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: the play in almost made the playoffs in the A seed,

1052
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 4: and yeah, I think they're gonna make some They're gonna

1053
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: be a surprise team next year.

1054
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm excited. Call me a homer.

1055
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm excited about the magic bro They like real like

1056
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: they in their building, like they got some young pieces. Yeah,

1057
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: And like I think Jamal Mosey is like the perfect

1058
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: coach for these young kids, this this new generation. They

1059
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: respond to him. You know how to motivate him, you

1060
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: know how to deal with him. And I think he's

1061
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: doing an excellent job.

1062
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: Man.

1063
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: I think you know, uh, Jeff and John and those

1064
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 1: guys in the front front office, did a great job

1065
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: the last two to three years, like adding good pieces

1066
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, making moves to compliment

1067
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: what they got, and I think they gotta you know

1068
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They got a whole youth movement over

1069
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: the boy and I'm telling you, Paolo and France them

1070
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: two boys is big time, bro, I'm telling you big time.

1071
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: And like, you got a lot of good pieces around there.

1072
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: They got a lot of changeable like two way players,

1073
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: Like they just got a lot. Like you know, how

1074
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: it is to be good in the league, you gotta

1075
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: have almost like two starting lineups. And like even though

1076
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: they're young and they all kind of they start on

1077
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: teams in the league. So to start on teams in

1078
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: the league, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, folks

1079
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: start on that team and can be and then you know,

1080
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: you still bring a young Anthony Black, you got ja

1081
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: Howe you got?

1082
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: You got some young pieces.

1083
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: Man.

1084
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: I just I'm excited for them.

1085
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: I hope everybody can stay healthy and you know, they

1086
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: keep doing what they doing. I think they could be

1087
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: a surprise team. Not saying like, hey, they about to

1088
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: shake up the league, but I'm talking about just like

1089
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: good team to watch.

1090
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 3: Good team. This is trending the right way. I think

1091
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: it's surprised team would be the Rockets.

1092
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: I think. I think.

1093
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: I think because you brought up Email, I started thinking

1094
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 3: about the team, and I do think with the leadership

1095
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 3: of May and the young core guys they have, I

1096
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: feel like they could be a sleeper. You know what

1097
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: I'm saying. They got to prove themselves, but they could

1098
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 3: be a sleeper win more games than people think they will,

1099
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 3: right exactly. Who was your early finals prediction? Finals prediction?

1100
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1101
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: Who have coming out the West? We're going with the

1102
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: Battle of the Son. We're gonna go to Phoenix. I

1103
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: think Phoenix come out the West East we got Milwaukee

1104
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: because I think Janni's is a different kind of guy. Man.

1105
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 3: He kind of got a little bit of a stat

1106
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: kind of mental where he's just attacked that basket.

1107
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

1108
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: Young You know what I'm saying what girls told me.

1109
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: Girls told me that back when I was still playing

1110
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: in Phoenix. At the time. I think Jannice was like

1111
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: nineteen or twenty. You know Tim Gergen, which was with

1112
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: us in Phoenix, and he was like he was like

1113
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: stag I want you to meet somebody, and he brought

1114
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: Jannis over. He's like, this kid remind me of you,

1115
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: and I was I was twenty three, twenty four at

1116
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: the time, maybe a little bit older twenty five, and

1117
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 3: Janice was like nineteen twenty.

1118
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you know what I'm saying. And then sure enough.

1119
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, out there doing the whole different life, moving out

1120
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 5: the wayfar know.

1121
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna follow that, cab Man, I agree with you.

1122
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm a I'm gonna roll with Phoenix in Milwaukee my

1123
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 4: early finals prediction.

1124
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to go against that, like I

1125
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: gotta just like I want to say, the Celtics a

1126
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: little bit, but I'm unsure until I see enough from

1127
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: them with the with the bigs and stuff, because when

1128
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 1: you look at Brooke and Joannis versus you know, Chris

1129
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: STAPs and whatever whoever else. I don't know it to

1130
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: be hard for or whatever, but I got a little

1131
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: more faith in Milwaukee, so I'm imna have to go

1132
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: to Milwaukee and yeah, the West until something changed. I

1133
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: don't see nobody knocking the Sons off. It should, like,

1134
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: you know, it should be their time to come on

1135
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: out of there. Yeah, But speaking of the Suns, like

1136
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: I want to go back to young.

1137
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: Stack because I was I was there, I was.

1138
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: In the game, like waning, I know this was like

1139
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: I played with you when you you postalized a lot

1140
00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: of dudes that year.

1141
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: Because like tell me about the dunk on OLIVERA. Candy N.

1142
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: Staples in there in l A. I was in the game.

1143
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: I was on the Clippers at the time, right, but

1144
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: like that was one of like I know that's one

1145
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: of the clips to highlights. I see it enough to

1146
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: know that you see it probably like one of the

1147
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: most replaced of your.

1148
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: Career that you see. Yeah, it's definitely one of them

1149
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: for sure.

1150
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: Like tell me how like like after that dunk in

1151
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: that day and they when it went like how was

1152
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: that for you?

1153
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: When it went viral? It was crazy because you know

1154
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: the step on face made its nasty because when I

1155
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: when I caught the ball in the roll, I wanted

1156
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: to I wanted to dunk the ball so hard, you

1157
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I want the whole stadium to

1158
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 3: hear the dunk, you know what I'm saying. And then

1159
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: Odawa can he jumped, so when he jumped, I'm like,

1160
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: this makes it even more of a powerful dunker what

1161
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So so I was already had my aggressive

1162
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: attack in mind as soon as I caught the ball,

1163
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 3: and then when he jumped, it's made it. It's made

1164
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: it just that much more of an epic finish because

1165
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: the sound that everyone heard is the reason why Step

1166
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: kind of made that face.

1167
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: I tell you, no, I don't. I can't speak for him.

1168
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: I was I didn't make the same face, but I

1169
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: made up face. I was looking at my teammates on

1170
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: the bench like damn. But the thing that made it

1171
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: crazy and nasty because like you know, like when you

1172
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: in the game, I'm getting a different angle than TV.

1173
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm like running through the base.

1174
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1175
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: I think I was someone on a baseline something, but

1176
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: I saw it like this, and to see it like that,

1177
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: because it was like you sixteen, he's seven feet seven one.

1178
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: You went up, you got that bitch in one hand,

1179
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: and then he like hit you on right and it

1180
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: was like an exaggerated cock back.

1181
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: And then.

1182
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: It was like God, and it was like you know

1183
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: how like sometime he's the visiting player, so it's not

1184
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: like the crowd was about to be like huh.

1185
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 2: But it's still was a like, oh right, it was

1186
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 2: the whole crowd.

1187
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: And then it was like buzzing like ship like you know,

1188
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: it was an end one. So now he walking around

1189
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: and he.

1190
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 6: Hooked, I'm like, oh shit, like yeah, then you see

1191
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 6: it like it's still like a thirty second delay of

1192
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 6: the fans in the crowd.

1193
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: Still you're still hearing like deep rest and gas, and

1194
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: it was like, bro, it was like that dang, that

1195
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: was my rookie year. Yeah, rookies, dad, you know what

1196
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1197
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 3: And then when the ball, if you look at the replay,

1198
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: you shot the ball go through the neck on a

1199
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: straight direct line to the ground, so you know, so

1200
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 3: you know, the force that was behind that was crazy.

1201
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: And that's what I said. That's like he said, you

1202
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 2: could hear the dunk and you can hear him. I said,

1203
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 2: oh it was. It was a whole lot of ones.

1204
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 4: I want you to tell us a memory, your favorite

1205
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 4: memory of being a son. What was your favorite memory

1206
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 4: of being a fence son?

1207
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: My favorite memory. There's a lot of them, right, There's

1208
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: a lot of plays that comes to mind throughout my

1209
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: time in Phoenix, and it's always hard to just pick

1210
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: like one It's like an accumulation of all these things

1211
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 3: that happened, right, and being a young high school player

1212
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: going straight to the league, I'm trying to figure out

1213
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: the NBA and how this works. Still try to be

1214
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: the best you can be. But but I think like

1215
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: being the rookie of the year out of high school

1216
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 3: was probably one of my favorite moments because that hasn't

1217
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 3: happened before and they didn't expect it, and it was yeah, exactly,

1218
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: and it was a tight It was kind of a

1219
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 3: tight race because y'all mean, it was like the next

1220
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 3: generation big and we're in the same class, and I'm like,

1221
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: it's this high school kid, like you know what I'm saying.

1222
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: That would have to be probably one of my favorite moments.

1223
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 3: Or the one year we was in the All Start,

1224
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 3: All Star Weekend Oh.

1225
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: Table when the whole team was there, the whole five.

1226
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: That was that was classic great point shooting. Shout out

1227
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: to Steve for making that happen. When they tried to

1228
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: play me, remember me in a three point contest? Yeah, yeah, exactly,

1229
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: Remember that Steve said, no skills challenge for me.

1230
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: Q Ain't that right?

1231
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: Right?

1232
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: And then I was in the dunk contest Steve was

1233
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 3: in the Skills Challenge. That was like a moment of

1234
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 3: my career. That was that was exciting because we all

1235
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 3: was like cherishing the moment. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,

1236
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: that was a good time.

1237
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: I'll give you a dope and you tell me if

1238
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: it was if it was like for me it was.

1239
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: It was easily in Phoenix my dopest memory, but one

1240
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: of them other career of our career, my career. Remember

1241
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: when we got back from beating Dallas, and I'm talking

1242
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: about on the tarmac at the airport and it was

1243
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: fans very well, I had crazy but I had never

1244
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: experienced nothing close to that.

1245
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 2: It was like we won a championship. Bro. We got

1246
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: back to like two three in the morning and somethings morning.

1247
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: And they had signs around the gates and the fences

1248
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: up up the air bro the what we were it

1249
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: was that was that I had chill bumps when I

1250
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: left about it, like everybody, you know when we because

1251
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: like you could see it from the plane, like damn,

1252
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: they got news cameras.

1253
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: Everything was going crazy. Then you know, we.

1254
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: All got to go get in the thurn and get

1255
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: our cards and we putting that individually going crazy. That's

1256
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: crazy that right there, that was the biggest it's ever gotten,

1257
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: like for a team, all of us being said, but

1258
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: what we did, like it was like you thought we

1259
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: had just won a championship. We did was advanced to

1260
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: the West Commerce Finals.

1261
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great.

1262
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: What do it mean to you to have a team?

1263
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: A team just appreciate what you brought to the table

1264
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 4: in the years you don't put in the hard work.

1265
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 4: Uh you know, I mean Cube were mind blowing. We

1266
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 4: went to the clipp of game they had us all

1267
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: on the jump on trying. It was like, dangn man,

1268
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 4: I just I'm glad they appreciate how we played and

1269
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 4: how we rocked the way we played. How was it

1270
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: to have a team to appreciate like what you brought

1271
00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 4: to them the years that you gave it.

1272
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a beautiful feeling, man, because people fail to

1273
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: realize how much you put into the game. You know,

1274
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 3: we see the game on the court and you see

1275
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: us out there performing, but there's a lot of detail

1276
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: that go and practice, training, perseverance, watching film. All that

1277
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: adds up to the actual performance from the court and

1278
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: then you perform at the high level. Right, So all

1279
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: the years I played in Phoenix, we had great success.

1280
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was a total successful

1281
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: run from the start of my rookie year all the

1282
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 3: way to the end. And to see the appreciation from

1283
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 3: the ownership, the organization, the fans, the people all over Arizona,

1284
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And even outside of Arizona's fans. Yo, man,

1285
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 3: I love watching the Sun's play, you know what I'm saying.

1286
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: I loved you guys, And so to see that appreciation

1287
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: and being honored in a way of a retired jersey,

1288
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: it's like the ultimate ultimate goal, you know what I'm saying.

1289
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: That last question, who you got Aces or Liberty for

1290
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 4: the w n B A Championship and who will be

1291
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 4: your finals m v P.

1292
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: That's a good one. That's a good one. I mean,

1293
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: you got you got Stewarts the MVP. This pasting this right,

1294
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: You got Sabrina who three point knockdown shooter. You know

1295
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you got you got,

1296
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: you got a squad on the Liberty side. Aces ain't

1297
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 3: no slop chief that defend the champs. You know what

1298
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying. They already they already solidified themselves the champions

1299
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 3: trying to run it back. You feel what I'm saying. So,

1300
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: but if I had to choose, I would say that

1301
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 3: the New York Liberty would be the champions, STU MVP

1302
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: and Stewie will be the finals MVP.

1303
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 5: Who you got, I'm a I'm a uh, I'm gonna

1304
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 5: roll with the Liberty. I'm with him. I'm Stuy MVP.

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Speaker 1: Both of them, Stuy MVP and Liberty. Yes, I'm going

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Speaker 1: with the Aces and I'm going with the point Guard

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Speaker 1: Chelsea Gray as the m v P again. Yes, because

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Speaker 1: can't nobody check up? I think Laney on her listen

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Speaker 1: to what I just said. That's my pick. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: the ass and know what I'm saying, because when the

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Speaker 1: point guard get going, she can't be stopped.

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Speaker 2: Can't nobody stop?

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Speaker 4: She started fading all I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: And it's been you know, you know if you going

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Speaker 1: by the season, Asia has struggled a little bit against

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Speaker 1: the Liberty here and there, But I answer for Chelsea.

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Speaker 1: I'm going with the Aces. I'm going with point God. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel I feel Yeah, Well that's a rap man.

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Speaker 1: We did a special edition tap in we got our

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Speaker 1: homeboy big stat a going into the Ring of Honors status.

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Speaker 1: Yes and stuff right there for my main man's been

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Speaker 1: to tap being man season coming up, WNBA season coming

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Speaker 1: to you in.

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Speaker 2: It's good times man.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be tapping with you all year loaned, Yes.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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