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So in today's show, 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna briefly talk about what that means for the 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings. And then I'm gonna give you guys my 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: three favorite Dear and Fox trade destinations. You guys are 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: the job. Before we get started, to subscribe to the 43 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: Hoops Tonight YouTube channels. You don't miss any more of 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: our videos. Follow me on Twitter at underscore JCNLT so 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: you guys don't miss you announcements. Don't forget about a 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: podcast feed wherever you get your podcast under Hoops Tonight. 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: It's also super helpful if you leave a rating and 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: a review on that front. And the last, but not least, 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: keep dropping mailbag questions and the YouTube comments so we 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: can keep hitting them on Fridays throughout the remainder of 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: this season. All right, let's talk some basketball before we 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: go into darreon Fox potential destinations. I want to talk 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: a little bit about the Sacramento Kings. So, on the 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: one hand, I've always had a level of respect for 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: franchises that demonstrate self awareness. I don't I understand some 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: of the pursuit of like maintaining a certain level of 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: competence so that you just look like a good basketball 58 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: team and you're good to your fans in that way. 59 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: But I also think that being aware of the fact 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: that not close to where you want to be is 61 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: an important step in getting to where you want to be, 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: Right Like, you got to admit that you're not what 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: you want to be first before you can get there. 64 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Rich Paul informed the Kings that they should trade him. 65 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily mean that Darren Fox would leave. As 66 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: we know, free agency in this league has changed a 67 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: lot over the course of the last ten years or so. 68 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: Right there aren't exactly a lot of teams out there 69 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: that are just working with max cap space, at least 70 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: not good teams. Right Like, most good teams are perpetually 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: operating above the cap. So it's difficult to leave in 72 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: free agency and not end up in another bad situation. 73 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: Back in the day, the reason why that worked is 74 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: there were lots of guys that were entering free agency 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: every summer because they weren't signing extensions with their teams 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: because they wanted to do it through free agency. Then 77 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: they could link up with a couple of buddies and 78 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: be like, Hey, I'm gonna go here, you want to 79 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: meet me over there? Okay, sounds good, but that's not 80 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: how it is. Anymore. You're not seeing two, three, four 81 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: high profile free agents hitting free agency at the same 82 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: time and being willing to go sign with some other team. Right. So, 83 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: like most, more often than not, these guys are extending 84 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: with their teams and then demanding a trade. Right, But 85 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: we also know that the Kings are not even close 86 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: to being good enough to win a first round playoff 87 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: series in this league. So in short, even if you 88 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: were to somehow manage to re sign deeron Fox, it 89 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: would likely be in the context of an eventual trade anyway. Right, 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: Let's say you can't find a deal you like this year. 91 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: You play hardball again this summer at the deadline next year, 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: teams aren't willing to give up a Ton because he 93 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: only has six months left on his deal, or you know, 94 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: a few months left on his deal. You end up 95 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: in the summertime you've worked out a deal with Rich Paul, 96 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: You signed some sort of long term contract, but then 97 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: a year later he's demanding a trade. Now he makes 98 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: fifty plus million, and he's a lot harder to match 99 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 1: salary for. You could actually argue trading Fox now nets 100 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: you more than you will ever get for him. At 101 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: a point in the future because now he has this 102 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: super manageable salary and as of right now, he still 103 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 1: has a full year and a half on his deal. 104 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Now there's a chance that when you get to this summer, 105 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: you can still move. And we have an example of that. 106 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Right everyone was saying, oh, the Pelicans have to trade 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis in the trade deadline of that twenty nineteen season. 108 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: They waited till the summer. It turns out the Lakers 109 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: are willing to pay just as much. Right So, the 110 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: way I see it, you've got this window of time 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: to trade Deer and Fox at this deadline and over 112 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: this summer. I think once you get past that summer 113 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: and you get into next year's trade deadline, now you're 114 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: talking about the it's only potentially a few months rental 115 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: that could affect value, and when you're on the next deal, 116 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: now he makes a shit ton of money that could 117 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: affect value. Right, So, like, this is your opportunity here 118 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: to at the deadline, dangle him out there and see 119 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: if you can't get the best possible offer, and if 120 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: you don't get the best pop up possible offer, then 121 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: you take the best available offer. When you get to 122 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: this summer, So in short, I do think that they 123 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: should trade him. I think that now or this summer 124 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: is the right timeline to do so. And I think 125 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: it's a nice little reflection of self awareness from the 126 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: Kings to realize that they're not close and that they've 127 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: got a really good asset here that they could potentially move. 128 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: You could argue they could do the same thing with 129 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: demartros in demonest the bonus, but from what I tell, 130 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: From what I can tell, it seems like the Kings 131 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: want to remain at least somewhat relevant, and so I 132 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: think Deared Fox is the kind of player that can 133 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: bring you some win now pieces as well as draft 134 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: compensation to boost you for the future. So let's get 135 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: into our top three Daron Fox trade destinations and number three. 136 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: This one is completely and totally unrealistic, but I want 137 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: to just have some fun with it, and I'm gonna 138 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: let my Lakers fan bias come in here for a second. 139 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: Number three the Los Angeles Lakers. And again, for the 140 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: record up front, I think there's a zero percent chance 141 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: of this happening because of the rivalry that exists between 142 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: the Kings and the Lakers. King's ownership would have a 143 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: very hard time explaining to their fans why they sent 144 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: Daron Fox to Los Angeles. But just for fun, I 145 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: want you guys just to hear this one out as 146 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: like a more of a thought exercise in terms of 147 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: value in two situations. What if the Lakers called up 148 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: the Kings and they offered Ruey Hotchimura, Austin Reeves, Dalton Connect, 149 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Jalen hoods Chaffino, and both first round picks unprotected for 150 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: Darren Fox and Jordan McLaughlin. Interestingly enough, I actually like 151 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: this deal more for the Kings than I like it 152 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: for the Lakers. This is a Kings team that I've 153 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: been talking about now for two years desperately needs a bigger, 154 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: stronger power forward to help next to Demona Sabonis. They've 155 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 1: had Harrison Barnes, They've used small ball looks, They've had 156 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: Trey Lyles in there a lot. Getting a guy like 157 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: Ruey Hotchimura represents a legitimate upgrade at the power forward 158 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: spot that the Kings have needed for years now. You 159 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: could shoot the ball really well. Compliments to Bonus. Ruey's 160 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 1: biggest weakness is rebounding, which is Demonisa Bonus's biggest strength 161 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: at something that he can help him with. He's a 162 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: guy that as you're running your action with the ball 163 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: gets skipped to the corner. He's like a legitimate week 164 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: side spacer. Ruey has his flaws, and he's playing out 165 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: of position for the Lakers, which has accentuated those flaws. 166 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: But I think he's a perfectly fine power forward in 167 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: this league and in a legit upgrade for the Sacramento Kings. 168 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves is an incredible skill guard that Kings fans 169 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: would love, and he slots really nicely next to Keon Ellis. 170 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: I know non Lakers fans like to talk shit about 171 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves. I'm just telling you as someone who's rooted 172 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: for him for the last three years. He's awesome and 173 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: a guy like Dearon Fox is like the only it's 174 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: like the bottom level of the caliber of player that 175 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: I would be willing to give Austin up for. Austin 176 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: is legit. He would immediately help the Kings right away, 177 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: slots in beautifully next to an athletic defensive guard in 178 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: Keon Ellis, and you get Dalton connect as a prospect 179 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: for the future. In addition to those two first round picks, 180 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: which are almost certainly going to be high picks because 181 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: the Lakers are really incompetent. When Lebron James and Anthony 182 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: Davis hang them up, or when at least Lebron hangs 183 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: them up, they're going to really struggle to succeed. So 184 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: you get a good mix of future talent to go 185 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: with win now pieces in Austin and Ruie. To put it, simply, 186 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: turning Daron Fox into Austin Reeves and Ruey Hachimura, in 187 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: my opinion, keeps the Kings more or less in the 188 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: same kind of like level of contention that they are 189 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: currently in. Meanwhile, for the Lakers, you finally get your 190 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: legit star shot creator to pair with Lebron James and 191 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, specifically a guy in Fox who brings a 192 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: unique combination of downhill burst and pull up shooting. All 193 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: of the perimeter initiators for the Lakers struggle to get downhill, 194 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: except for Lebron when he's playing hard, which he only 195 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: does really from time to time in the regular season 196 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: and then in the postseason. Even then, it's more of 197 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: like a bully ball type of attack. Austin Dilo when 198 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: he was here, Gabe, These guys struggled to beat people 199 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: off the dribble and get downhill. Austin when he's at 200 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: his absolute best can do it, but it's not like 201 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: a consistent night to night kind of thing. Dearon Fox 202 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: would immediately bring that level of downhill burst to make 203 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: things easier for the Lakers offense in the half court. Also, 204 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: Dearon Fox is really good at those playoff shots, like 205 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: those like mid range pull up jump shots that you 206 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: hit in ball screens, like oh, things are breaking down 207 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: or playing an elite defense. We need something to create, 208 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: somebody to create something. Darren Fox can help with that. 209 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: You also would represent a pivot point for a rebuild 210 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: for the Lakers. So what do you do in the 211 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: era post Lebron? You don't have anything at this point 212 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: that would justify any sort of pivot. It would be 213 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: like if Lebron's done, you trade Anthony Davis too, and 214 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: you blow the whole damn thing up. Bringing a guy 215 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: like Dearon Fox, Darren Fox and Anthony Davis is a 216 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: legitimate foundation to try to start a kind of like 217 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: pivot rebuild. At that point, you could take one season, 218 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: or you take on some bad contracts and let those 219 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: guys play, try to recoup some assets and then try 220 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: to pivot at some point in the next couple of 221 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: years and make another run. I think Dearreon Fox would 222 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: help with that. My main concerns there for the Lakers 223 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: would be it would be very difficult to find a 224 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: second deal at that point, so like, for instance, they 225 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: wanted to get a backup center, which, by the way, 226 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: now that Anthony Davis has an abdominal strain, could be 227 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: a legitimate problem here in the big picture, you're not 228 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: in the second round pick market any or you're not 229 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: in the first round pick market for centers anymore. You're 230 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: not getting Walker Kessler. If the price for Robert Williams 231 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: turns out to be a protected first round pick, you're 232 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: not getting Walker or you're not getting Robert Williams, right, 233 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: So like it would be one of those deals that 234 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: could leave more holes on the Lakers roster. But then 235 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: you still have this like fundamental like I can march 236 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: out Daron Fox, Max Christy, Dorian Finney, Smith, Lebron James, 237 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis. Is that five good enough to win 238 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: the championship? And I think they are. That five is legitimate. 239 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: It would be the bench and the depth stuff that 240 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: could be a problem. But you'd still have Jared Vanderbilt, right, 241 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: You'd still have Gabe Vincent, you would still have pieces 242 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: off the bench that could help. You would just be 243 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: thin in that regard to be a top end talent 244 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: type of play. So, as I said, interestingly enough, I 245 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: think I'm more on the fence for that one for 246 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: the Lakers than I am for the Kings. I think 247 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: the Kings actually get a lot more in the way 248 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: of like helps you win right away type of pieces 249 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: in terms of Austinaries and Riya Chimura and picture future 250 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: talent in terms of Dalton connect in first round draft 251 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: compensation number two for my favorite dearon Fox Destinations, the 252 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs. Now who goes out in this deal 253 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: is super complicated. The Kings are not allowed to take 254 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: back Harrison Barnes in that deal because they just sent 255 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: him to San Antonio in a trade this summer, and 256 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: the Spurs don't have much in the way of win 257 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: now pieces to offer, like if Sacramento wants to demand 258 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: win now pieces so that they can maintain some semblance 259 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: of competence in the short term. San Antonio is gonna 260 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: struggle offering pieces along those lines, so it might very 261 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: well end up being a three team deal to facilitate 262 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: something like this. But for the sake of keeping things simple, 263 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: let's just zero in on the fit between Daron Fox 264 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: and Victor Wimanyela. Darren Fox personally shoots fifty five percent 265 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: from the field field goal percentage as the ball handler 266 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: and pick and roll. That's one point zero nine points 267 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: per shot among the fifteen players in the NBA that 268 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: logged at least three hundred possessions to this point in 269 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: the season as a shooter in pick and roll, meaning 270 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: they took the shot as the ball handler and pick 271 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: and roll. He ranks third out of those fifteen players 272 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: in efficiency per shot. Only Jalen Brunson and Darius Garland 273 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: have been better. He's ahead of guys like Shay Gilds, 274 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: Alexander and Damian Lillard. Deeron Fox has been one of 275 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: the very best shot makers in pick and roll all year. 276 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: The Spurs don't have anything close to that. Steph Castle 277 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: gets zero point eight to one points per shot in 278 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: ball screens, and I love Steph Castle. I would not 279 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: give him up in a Deeron Fox deal. But he's 280 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: not close to being ready to meet Victor wembin Yama 281 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: in terms of the level of offensive player as a 282 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: ball handler he needs to be for a serious basketball team. 283 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: Devin Vessel, he shoots forty two percent in ball screens, 284 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: zero point eight one points per shot. That's the same 285 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: as Steph Castle. Chris Paul shoots forty four percent. That's solid, 286 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: zero point ninety five points per shot in ball screens. 287 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: That's okay, but his volume is hilariously low. He's only 288 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: they made sixty one shots in ball screens this year. 289 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: Darren Fox, for comparison, has made one hundred and thirty six, 290 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: so more than twice as often or more than twice 291 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: as many times this year as Darren Fox scored as 292 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: the ball handler in ball screens. So, simply put, the 293 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: Spurs don't have anything close to a serious ball screen 294 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: threat to pair with Victor wembin Yama right now. Darren 295 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: Fox is older than Victor wemen Yama, but not old 296 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: enough to make you feel pressure in terms of a 297 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: timeline like I still feel like Fox and Wemby could 298 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: easily put together more than a half decade of really 299 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: high level basketball together. It's not like a, Oh, we 300 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: make this move. We have two or three years to 301 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: make this work. No, he's he's in his twenties. There's 302 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: a real long term window to try to make that 303 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: partnership work. And as I've said many times on this show, 304 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: Dearn Fox is kind of the perfect defensive fit with 305 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Wemby because he's more of an aggressive, turnover forcing defender 306 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: than a contain the ball type of defender. He's had 307 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: seventeen games this year with multiple steals. He led the 308 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: league in steels last year. So if you were to 309 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: look to pair Wemby with the Star, I don't think 310 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: you can do much better than Fox. He's a seamless 311 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: fit on both ends of the floor. He's a medium 312 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: sized salary that isn't overly difficult to match, and he 313 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: fits the timeline of what you're trying to accomplish. But 314 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: my favorite Darren Fox fit in light of the rise 315 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: of this team as of late, is the Houston Rockets. Now, 316 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: for the record, I saw a report from Mark Stein 317 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: that the Rockets really want to ride this out and 318 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: just see what this team is capable of. Normally, i'd 319 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: agree when there isn't a rush. However, there are two 320 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: reasons why I think that's a bad idea. One, I 321 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: don't need to watch the playoffs to know exactly what's 322 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: going to happen with this Rockets team. They're going to 323 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: lose no later than the second round, and it's going 324 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: to be because they can't score the basketball. Why Because 325 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: they're perimeter initiators are Jalen Green, who basically just takes 326 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: pull up threes and drives into a half dozen bodies 327 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: every time he faces a good defense, and Fred van Vliet, 328 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: who can't get separation from elite defenders. And when you 329 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: combine that with literally all of their catch and shoot 330 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: guys being somewhat streaky, it's inevitable. I don't know why 331 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: you would need to see that in order to believe it. 332 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: And for all of you who are like, oh, the 333 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Rockets their top ten offense, they're bottom ten and half 334 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: court offense. So it literally just takes a team that 335 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: has an elite defense that takes care of the basketball 336 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: and it just executes well and doesn't turn the ball over, 337 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: and there they're screwed. They're not going to be able 338 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: to score when they're stuck in the half court against 339 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: an elite defense. In the postseason. So like, I'm a 340 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: huge fan of what the Rockets are doing. I'm a 341 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: big believer in them, but they have such a crippling 342 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: weakness and perimeter shock creation that I just don't view 343 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: it as a viable solution, like as a viable championship team. 344 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: Put it simply, look at the Celtics game for an example. 345 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: They got nothing from Fred and nothing from Jalen. It 346 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: just so happens that Dylan Brooks made every damn three 347 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: he took and Aman Thompson at the best game of 348 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: his career to make up for that offensive limitation. That's 349 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: a game they lose by fifteen if Dylan doesn't shoot 350 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: the ball the way that he shot in that game. 351 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: So like, I don't know what exactly they need to see. 352 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: Take it back to like Oka see last year fundamentally different, Like, 353 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: let's see what these guys got. Maybe they can beat Dallas. 354 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't know whether or not Shay has enough offensive help. 355 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: Let's see it. I wanted to see what Okac could do. 356 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: I don't need to see what Houston can do to 357 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: know that Fred and Jalen are not enough. The second 358 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: reason is I think the Rockets have a legitimate, real 359 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: shot to win the title if they make this type 360 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 1: of move. Their defense is very much built to handle 361 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: the top teams in this league. They have repeatedly guarded Boston, 362 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, and Cleveland really well in the last few weeks. 363 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: They have the perimeter athletes to match up. They have physicality, 364 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: They can cause serious problems for those teams. Like at Cleveland, 365 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: it's like a legitimate mismatch. You saw what they did 366 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: to Boston too. They have the defensive build to win 367 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: the title. I like Shane Goon, I like their transition attack. 368 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: They just need a much more reliable perimeter shot creator. 369 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: The Rockets also have this Fred van Vliet salary. It's 370 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: forty plus million dollar salary that they can use as 371 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: a piece to actually like as salary ballast, so that 372 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: they don't have to dip into all of their depth 373 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: of role player talent to try to facilitate a deal. 374 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: And they have ten first round picks between now and 375 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: twenty thirty one, so they have the ability to go 376 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: to Sacramento and be like, hey, seamless swap will go. 377 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: You know, Fred van Vliet, there's another machination in that deal. 378 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: I think they would have to take back another I 379 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: think the Rockets might have to take back one other 380 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: salary from the Kings, but call it Fred for Deeron Fox. 381 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: In terms of just the basic kind of foundation of 382 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: the deal for Sacramento, you get a win now piece 383 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: in Fred van Vliet that seamlessly slots in Deeron Fox's role. 384 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: He's a very good playmaker too, something that will help 385 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: grease the wheels for the Kings offense. You get to 386 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: maintain your relevance in the short term, and you just 387 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: get Houston for as many picks as you can get 388 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: from them, right, So that benefits Sacramento. Now you have 389 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: a team in Houston that can credibly generate offense in 390 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: the half court while having the defense to transition attack 391 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: that this Rockets team has devastated some of the best 392 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: teams in the league with lately. I think they can 393 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: legitimately hoist the trophy if they get dearon Fox. Like 394 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: they match up really well with the best teams in 395 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: the league. They have one crippling weakness that Darren Fox 396 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: perfectly addresses. I think they should do it. That's my 397 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: favorite destination for Dearon Fox. The volume. What's Up guys, 398 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate you for listening to and supporting 399 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: OOPS tonight. They would actually be really helpful for us 400 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: if you guys would take a second and leave a 401 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: rating and a review. As always, I appreciate you guys 402 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: supporting us, but if you could take a minute to 403 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: do that, I'd really appreciate it.