1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: When you got to the league. Who's the first person 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: like bust your ass? Like this man served me out there. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Man, probably like PJ Brown, old. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: School p Jack. He was too smart. Yeah, he was 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: just smarter than you. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Just everything. You know, I always say that just I 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: couldn't do nothing. I mean defensively, defensively, offensively nothing. I mean, 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: he's just not grown man. It was I felt a 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: real grown man strength playing against him. You know, like 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: you said, just the way he playing it. He was 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: so strong and you know how to hold you down, 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: position and just everything like respect for that guy. 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: Yo, man special special special in the day man, we 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: got our family family, family in the building. It's a 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: Midwest g with us, you know what I'm saying. We 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: go way back. We got z bow Nation. 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: In the show. 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 4: Fellows. I do not want to miss this one. It's 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: our partner party. 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: It's your Boys Too Rich and. 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: D Males Challenge in the podcast. 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Season two and how We're thinking of and what we do, 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: Like it was just like how did y'all come up with? That? 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Is this thing on little script that we kind of 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: just get into it. 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: We come from an authentic old gee standpoint. You weren't 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 4: winning with just one star player. This is a story 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: that people don't know. This dude, have my shoes on, right, 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: he just talking hot mess. 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: You know. 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 3: We were just young and wanted to prove ourselves and 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 3: you were in the way. 33 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: This is nice. 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: Man, bought me some hony. Yeah, it's a grace A 35 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: greyfield grayfield, greyfield, greyfield, greyfield, gravefield. I'm from Maryon and 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: the Marion, Mary Indiana. Yeah, it's small, man, I called 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: the small town of madness. 38 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: I went to Mary Indiana with you and we was 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: in this hotel room and the hotels didn't even have 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: remocal crows on the TV. Old school I'm talking. The 41 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: hotel had to be built in like the fifties or 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: something like that. 43 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: Remember that's right, that's when we had that party. 44 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: We had to use the remote and just moved a 45 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: remote in like five different rooms and pass it around 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: as a remote around. Coming from a small place like that, 47 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: what made you choose Marion High School to go to 48 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: that was only high school in the area. 49 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm from a town, damn small down 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: It's about thirty thousand people, you know what I mean. 51 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: And it's real small. So when we had one high school. 52 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and y'all want state, like led your team to state. 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it was a hot bay of basketball. 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: Really yeah. 55 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: You know our school we think tired or got the 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: most state championship and stuff. Was y'all school all black, nah, noah, 57 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: our school mix. Yeah, our school mix. So it's a 58 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: lot of basketball history coming from my school. 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: So you grew up on the history. That's why you 60 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: wanted to pick that torch up and be like another 61 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: generation because they was winning states before you. Because that's 62 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: how it was with mine. Like my coach was the 63 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: first coach in Illinois's history to win three state championships 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: back to back to back. So I always kind of 65 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: rolled off that you. 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 4: Went, did you win win the championship? 67 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: No? 68 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: I didn't, but I won, mister basketball, just like like 69 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: I know you and Zebo won state championships, but y'all 70 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: wasn't the best. Yeah state. 71 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: You know my boy, you know I was supposed to 72 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: be mister basketball. My boy, Jared Jefferies, he went to 73 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: the state school. Huh yeah, he went to Indiana, so 74 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: he was down there. He's from Bloomington, So you know 75 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: it was a little biased. You know, that's like my 76 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: brothers too, So you know I used to mess with 77 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: and we played together. Bring my award to practice, you 78 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean when you want to because I'm 79 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: the real mister basketball. 80 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: You know that state. 81 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all supposed to be in mister basketball. 82 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: Same thing. 83 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, you know I was a little rough around 84 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: the edges. 85 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. There was one thing always 86 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: about you when I first left to when I seen you, 87 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: I always knew how good you was. I always was like, man, 88 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: he arguably is the best player of our class. But 89 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: because you won't flashy. At the end of the game, 90 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: you will see you got twenty eight, twenty boards, all 91 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: that stuff, but you won't flashy. And I'm more of 92 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: a flashy type of player, like I'm dunking, running, jumping, 93 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: high flying, Like we playing in the McDonald game together. 94 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: If you look at the game, you might have been 95 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: like de Miles supposed to want MVP, he was on 96 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: the same team. But you look at the stats sheet, 97 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: you had like twenty three and twenty, Like you killed 98 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: that game and you won MVP early on when you 99 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: wasn't getting a recognition that you was getting, but you 100 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: knew you was like one of the top players you 101 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: can play with us. 102 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: Man, I just always believe, like you said, not getting 103 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: that recognition, but you know, knowing what I do and 104 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: having the confidence to do it against anybody. So that's 105 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: what I always just stood on and you know, believing 106 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: in what I could do, being true to myself. 107 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: Talk about what you did as being a big boy, 108 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: but you weren't really ever athletic, but you still were 109 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: able to put up crazy rebound numbers, and you know 110 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, just offensively. You were still able to 111 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: give whoever problems. But you weren't a dude. Like you said, 112 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: You didn't play a ball around. You weren't dunking on nobody. 113 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: We used to actually make jokes. 114 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, When we move together 115 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 5: and this boy got a dunk, it was like, oh no, 116 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 5: you're looking at the bench a lot of yeah, because 117 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 5: you don't even do it for real talk. 118 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: You don't even do it so like, but you were 119 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: still a dominant, you know what I'm saying. You was 120 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: a dominant for us, Like how did you padding your 121 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: game to be like that? Your game was timeless because 122 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: you never had to worry about losing your athleticism or nothing. 123 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: Man, I just think the way I was taught the 124 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: game and the way it was played, coming up earlier 125 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: and working on my footwork, just having a good knack 126 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: for the ball they don't use my body and positioning 127 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: myself and you know, having heart. You know you played 128 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: this game. You know the game is different now of course, 129 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: but I have heart, man, like you said, and having 130 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: confidence believe it, you know what I mean, knowing I'm 131 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: gonna go out there and I'm gonna kill dude. 132 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 133 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: So you know what I'm saying, Like that type of 134 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: mind frame night in and night out. 135 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: When you came out, like we always at the McDonald's game, 136 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: we played the McDonald's. We played at the USA USA 137 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: game with the Indiana played in the USA game, you 138 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: chose Michigan State. I remember you asked me, like, man, 139 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: you're going straight out of high school. And I was like, yeah, 140 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm out, bro. I feel like I put on the 141 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: show at these spots. But I was like, man, I 142 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: think you can go out too, because I felt like 143 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: you was the best player of our class. You know 144 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because remember me and you was ranked low. Yeah, 145 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: they had us like nine teen, and they had like 146 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Eddie Griffin, Gerald Wallace to Shine, Stevenson, Chris Duhan, all 147 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: the goals from New York. Like, oh, so many people 148 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: was in front of us. And I know how it looked, 149 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: how it it made me go harder. I know it 150 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: made you go harder too. What made you choose Michigan State? 151 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: Coach is, Oh, you know, I'm a type person. You 152 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: know if you show you want me, you really want me, 153 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: and you you know that I'm really your main guy. 154 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: And that's what it was. Everywhere I would go, they 155 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: coach is be on the front, Coach Garland, all the 156 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: assistant coaches. Everywhere I'm playing, you see Michigan State, Michigan State. 157 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: So it was the most persistent. So that's why I 158 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: had chosen them. Mm yeah, cause they showed me that 159 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: they really wanted me more. And it was it was 160 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: a lot of other schools that was showing persistent, but 161 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: it wasn't like Michigan State. 162 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: Did you consider going straight at house? 163 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, A man, it was a funny story. I had 164 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: the Poston Twins after McDonald's game right around I have 165 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: to talk to you after you said, you know, I'm going, 166 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: and I told you I'm thinking about it, and I 167 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: had the letter we in the Hood and my mom 168 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: my Mama, we little shack house man and the twins 169 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: is right posting twins. I looked at my mom, like, 170 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: what you want me to do? You know, I'm we 171 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: it's gutters, you know, it's my mom. You know he's 172 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: be poor and come from nothing. So it's like making 173 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: decisions for my family, you know what I mean. And 174 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: my mom told me rest in peace. She said, I 175 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: think you should go to school for a year. 176 00:07:59,400 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 5: Baby. 177 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: That's what I did. So I think that was the 178 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: best decision I ever made. 179 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: Though. Yeah, me and my mama fought about on She 180 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh, cause my mom ain't graduate from high school. 181 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: Yea, that's how my mom my mom same way, she 182 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: didn't graduate. She come from you know, Lake Providence and 183 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: yeah during the South during the time, so she ain't 184 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: had third grade education. 185 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Yeah, Like, my mom didn't 186 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: graduate from high school, and it was like it was 187 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: a big deal to her me to go to college. 188 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: The same thing with me going ahead. It was like, man, 189 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get up out. And my mom 190 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: had a heart attack at the time, So it was like, man, 191 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, I got a dep Michigan. You 192 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: didn't start you had so much success. 193 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: Coach man coach helped me back. Man, I come in 194 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: a time when you know, coaches, it ain't have nobody. 195 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: It wasn't no players was coming out here. So when 196 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: me and Jay Rich did, it was like, yeah, you know, 197 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: coaches like you know what I mean, not so much 198 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 2: with j Rich because you know he was older, but 199 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: with me a freshman, I'm thinking I was this first 200 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 2: freshman that ever left like that. And if you look 201 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: at the history of Michigan State, players probably weren't too 202 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: many players that left leaving getting drafted or leaving early neither. 203 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 2: So I probably was one of the first in the 204 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: program to do that like that. Besides, you know, magic 205 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: and you know. 206 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: What, like you don't have too many players to even 207 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: come off the bench and go lead. 208 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: Work like now. At the average coach would have started 209 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: me and played me like I was supposed to, would 210 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: have dominated. I was playing fifteen minutes g and getting 211 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: a double double. 212 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was watching, you know, I was you know, 213 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, bro, send me something. Yeah, start 214 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: shut up. 215 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: The teams just looking good like that. 216 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 4: Love. 217 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: That's motivation though, yeah, and motivation though. 218 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: When you left, did you think he was gonna get 219 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: drafted to somebody else? Yeah? 220 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was gonna go with coach Silas Charlotte, Charlotte. 221 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: I go to Charlotte. They had like left, they had 222 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: picked Kirk Hastens or something. 223 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: So when you got to Portland and I know you 224 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: confident in your game, Like I know you, you're very 225 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: confident in your game. That's why you can do what 226 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: you do. But having she in front of you, did 227 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: that humble you? Like, Oh man, it's not somebody in 228 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: front of you that you feel like you better than. 229 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: It's like, man, I gotta get my work on to 230 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: even get the opportunity to even play man talking. 231 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: Shit every every day, lock and Rookie. That shit was 232 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: the words. That's how you talk. That's my brother though, 233 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: you know, one of the best teammates ever. But just 234 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: everything going in him got me so much better because 235 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: we was going there. He was busting my ass and 236 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: he was teaching me at the same time. You know, 237 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: every day, like you said, that was my menace in practice. 238 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: So you know, we went hard, but just learned a 239 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: lot from him everything man, just you know, just defensive end, 240 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: talking and just you know, everything thing about she you know, 241 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: as a leader. So just learned a lot. Like I said, 242 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: the league is different now like back then, you wouldn't 243 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: a lot of players that got Dragan or something got 244 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 2: drafted play like you know, you started a lot of 245 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: players that got even a lot of these players, they 246 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: had to work their way into it, you know what 247 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: I mean. The coach and that's how coach Cheeks was. 248 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: He was old school. Yeah, you know, he wasn't just 249 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 2: he wouldn't give, you know, he had to earn. He 250 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 2: respected the veterans, you know, he had respect for the 251 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: veterans and the older players before us to teach us 252 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 2: how to do things and that way. 253 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: And it was the old team was older team. Yeah, 254 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: and y'all making the playoffs every years to go in 255 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: and get that experience. How big was that to go 256 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: to the playoffs and just see that experience? Man? 257 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: It was great man. I mean just even though I said, 258 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: sit on the floor every game, you know, you know, 259 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: it's a great experience that I learned a lot, like 260 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: I said, working out every day and put my extra 261 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: time in gym working, you know what I mean. Like 262 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: I said, practice was my game. 263 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: You know, the year before I came, she got hurt 264 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you got the opportunity to play. She 265 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: was averaging like twenty in ten. As soon as you played, 266 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: you came right in and fill the void twenty eighteen. 267 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit here, it was a no brain. 268 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: I knew, just for the damn there, for the rest 269 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: of your career, you was gonna get twenty in ten regards, like, 270 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: but how the pressure was for you to step up 271 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: in that Because you stepped up in the playoffs, you 272 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: ain't really play all year, and you finally played in 273 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs and you came in and digital thing like, 274 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: how did that feel? Even though y'all lost the series? 275 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: But how did that feel? Man? 276 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: It was just felt great? 277 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: You know. 278 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 2: That was all at work every day it was it 279 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: was paying off. So I was ready. Like I said, 280 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: our practices, the squad we had it was it was 281 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: going up, you know what I mean. We about to 282 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: fight everything arguing we it's going up. Like I was 283 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 2: supposed to be starting. We got eight nine players and 284 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: probably could start on any team in the league then, 285 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: So it was just like you know it's going at it. 286 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: So once I got that call, you know, I was 287 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: ready for me and you. We grew up playing against 288 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: each other, playing together or whatever. 289 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 3: So it was on. 290 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: I got traded to Portland. I was instantly geeked cause 291 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: I know you was on the team. You know, it 292 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: gave me the same feelings like I'm going to play 293 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: with my homeboy house playing with Q cause I know 294 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: the bond we had. The first time I met you 295 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: was in Nike camp. You know what I'm saying, gonna 296 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: say the story or what right happened at Nike Camp, 297 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: But that was the first time we got to really 298 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: know each other. But knowing you since I was like fifteen. 299 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: So then I get traded U. I get traded and 300 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 1: I come to Portland, and I remember we played with 301 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: she for like a month and a half, and remember 302 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: y'all was losing like a mouh we play. Y'all traded 303 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: for me. We played with she and we went on 304 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: to like this winning street. I think we won thirteen 305 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: out of sixteen or something like that. We went to 306 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: the East Coast smacking everybody. We even beat the Lakers 307 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: doing this stretch. But I always think of this. I 308 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: watched she go to Detroit leave our team, which I 309 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: felt was perfect with she that center, us power forward 310 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: me at the three, Damon Da Ruven Patterson off the bench. 311 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: I watched she Levi team get traded to Atlanta, then 312 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: get traded to Detroit, and I look at Detroit team 313 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, I see choun Sea Bills. I'm like, man, 314 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: that's Damon a scoring guard. I see Rip Palalton. I 315 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: was like, man, that's Da. I see tay Shine Prince. 316 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's me. Like versatile play defense, offense, 317 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: I see She, I see you. I'm like, that's the 318 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: key piece to us having a great season. Never know 319 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: what we could do because it was like, man, it 320 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: was a short period of time because you know, like 321 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: in a month and a half or a month in 322 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: a week, it's like you play like maybe ten games, 323 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: maybe fifteen, sixteen games. Yeah, but we was whooping teams 324 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: add and the chemistry was so good cause it was 325 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: like she can play on the other box and z 326 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: Bo is left handed. She is right hand. Zebo is 327 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: left handed. So they was on their off the bull boxes. 328 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: Any baillouts, we can give them the rock like do 329 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: you think about that the way I think about that. 330 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: He was playing good. Like you said, it was so 331 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: short a period of time, you know what I mean. 332 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: But you didn't want see to leave. Hey, no, I 333 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: ain't won't see it. She's will be like, I'm out 334 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: this motherfucker. There's nothing they could do. I'm like, why 335 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: she like, I'm out this bitch. Miles oh Man believe. 336 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: I was like, no, you can't go. It's so so perfect. 337 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: Then to see him win, I would definitely happy for him. 338 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: But I felt like that was our team. And then 339 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: watching y'all like trying to get over that hump, I 340 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: felt like that was that team. I felt like our 341 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: Portland teams could have been better. I feel like we 342 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: had start started lineups. I felt like we had veteran 343 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: players who knew how to play. Nick van Xwell was 344 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: on our team. The one year I scored forty seven, 345 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: Damon scored fifty, Nick van Xwell scored fifty. I think 346 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: DA had a forty five. You had like a forty three. 347 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: It's all in one season, but we can not had 348 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: smacked what. I felt like the reason that we didn't 349 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: go over the hunt because our veterans and the coach 350 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: didn't except that they two youngest guys, which was me 351 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: and you should have been the best players or should 352 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: have been featured. I don't want to say the best 353 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: players because I felt like we was the best players, 354 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: but I feel like should have been featured more like 355 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: it's it should have been echeton Stone, like, yeah, we 356 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: going through z Bo. The miles come behind and we'll 357 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: let Da and Dami don't shoot them shots. 358 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: We had a squad man. We had some good teams 359 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: in Portland, you know what I mean time I spent, 360 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: that's a good team. 361 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: Remember how we when we got b Roy, Like how 362 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: nice b Roy was and the Marcus was getting them 363 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: when we got them, and we didn't get the opportunity 364 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: to really play with them, like how nice was b 365 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Roy and. 366 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: To play you know with especially La like when he 367 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: came in. You know, remember I call myself trying to 368 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: run with him in the conditioning test, trying to call 369 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: myself hanging with him. Boy, you got the younger Zil. 370 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: He probably laughed me about two times. I look up, man, 371 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: I said, damn, you know, running with him. LaMarcus was nice. 372 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: It was soft coming there, but he got better. 373 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: He did. He got stronger, tougher, like what you think 374 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: about LaMarcus. 375 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: But when you play with him, Marcus, like you said, Marcus, 376 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: he came into his own, you know what I mean. 377 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: He always was one of them players that was talented 378 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: and you know, skillful, con shooted. 379 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: It was long co run. 380 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: But like I said, once he beefed up and started 381 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: playing a little more tougher. And that's when you really 382 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: start taking over, you know what I mean, That's when 383 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: you aren't like you know what I mean the. 384 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: Nate mc milland store. I love you, Nate ms Cleveland, 385 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: but I gotta let this be no. Oh, me and 386 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: Zebo we went to training camp. We was in train 387 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: in the camp in Portland, so we're standing in this 388 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: small hotel. This is like my fourth year in the league. 389 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: So in this training camp he told us to like 390 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: we had to stay in rooms bunk up like we au. 391 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: Ball like you and z Bo go be roommates in 392 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: the same room you got, but I'm staying hypothetically understanding 393 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: hypothetical outlaw. 394 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: Was my room. 395 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 4: But he told our t out love. 396 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, And we didn't know until we got there, 397 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: so I'm like. 398 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: He sprung it on you. I'm sprung. 399 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: Man. I just I just yeah, I just got my contract, 400 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: and I think I just got the little black car. 401 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: Let me tell you it ain't gonna be nowhere around 402 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: him when he first got this wave to swat black 403 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: card and like like you know, because for the forever 404 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: he was a grown ass man. But then when he 405 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: got his contract, no, I'm officially don't say nothing to me, nobody, 406 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: no more love teenager more. I got look this card. 407 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: I told her. I told the lady. So she was 408 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: telling us. She was like, cause the team was like, nah, 409 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: you can't get your own room. So I'm like, that's 410 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: cool with the team says. So I'm like, well, let 411 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: me pay for my own room. And she's like nah, 412 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: I said, so you're gonna refuse my money. Like so 413 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm kind of lightweight talking to the lady like, man, 414 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: you tripping. She finally just gave in and gave us 415 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: our rooms because she ain't have no choice because this 416 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: room's available. You gotta let me pay for me. A 417 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: role z Bo got them a roll too. Follow that 418 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: soon we put our bags in the room. We gotta 419 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: go downstair for a meeting. Nate McMillan eight hour fucking 420 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: head waiting on us and the people who when they 421 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: got rolled by it. I'm talking about just let us 422 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: have it. And I was like, man, look we make 423 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: too much money. Like like, I see if if we 424 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: was in high school or we was in college, you 425 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's where you go through. That's 426 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: where you go through that time to get to the 427 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: level where you don't have to go through that no more. 428 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: I can see if we was on that level, I'm 429 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: in four years. That mean to tell me, I gotta 430 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: smell another man's piss. Ship, I got enough to this 431 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: old lady, you know what I'm saying. But me and 432 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: Zebo got in so much trouble for that ship. 433 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: It was. 434 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: That was just one of the funniest moments that I 435 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: can kick. And then he random ship as a transcamp 436 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: like random ship out as she did that fucking conditioning test. 437 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: He used to have a conditioning test. 438 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: I think I'd rather run the whole mile in a 439 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: time limit than to do that fucking conditioning test. 440 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 4: I never was a fan of conditioning tests. 441 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: I never was. 442 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: They don't they don't do nothing the right thing, Like 443 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: we don't we're never gonna do this on the court 444 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 3: and so many breaks. 445 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, a serious conditions. 446 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: He get you right though. 447 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 448 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 4: So for you when you first got to the league 449 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 4: and got your bread, what you do, big dog. 450 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: Man, I a truck, buy me a truck, bought mama car. 451 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah so I did. 452 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: That's our familiar. 453 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: And when you when you see what was the bill 454 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: that you've seen, you was like, I just paid for that. 455 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 4: Man. 456 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: She got a Lincoln Continental, you know about like fifty Like, man, yeah, 457 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: this is the. 458 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: First was you drove my fan I just got the feedom. 459 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: That year you drove my phedom, and then the next 460 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: year you got your contract. Every since I seen you 461 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: got your contract. You the half phantom at the fanom 462 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: at the finalm like you the phantom boy? You you 463 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: ghost around here? How many fanoms have you got. 464 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: Your family? I got sprung and I had to give 465 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: you one, you know what I mean, And I warded 466 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: myself at one. 467 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 4: You had had the. 468 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: Bro take my pathers. Talk about him in the twenty 469 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: six said, when I got to go ruin, the cop 470 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: put them talk about your experience in New York. 471 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 2: New York City, I had, man, I love New York 472 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: was that. 473 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: And we had a crazy two seasons. 474 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: In New York season half tradedline. 475 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: Bro. 476 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: Just think about this though, how sick was the team 477 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 3: we had in New York with I'm talking about. 478 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: Just with the with the horse play. Now we had, 479 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: we had crew. When it came to like oh Coopers 480 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: in the prime, we had, we'd have been a problem. 481 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 3: But like when you just think about just Jared Jeffries, 482 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 3: Nate Robinson, we even had we had Matt for a. 483 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 4: Minute with Alan. 484 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: They remember they was doing all of that, putting the 485 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: cream cheese under the solder, their shoes, tearing the buttons off, 486 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: they south taping the suits to the ceiling. 487 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 4: Bro Like, whoever didn't play you what you might don't 488 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: find Like you know what I'm saying. 489 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: They respected the real and we was like, yo, listen, 490 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: touch my stuff, somebody gonna get hurt. So we was 491 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: automatically out of the game. I ain't gonna play with y'all. 492 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 3: Y'all don't play with me. But them boys, nothing was 493 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: off limits. 494 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: Nothing. 495 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 3: They put xlax and Eddie cereal. You know, Nate, they 496 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: used to being there bouncing off the wall, didn't he 497 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 3: Bro like like literally come down. How did they feel 498 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: and deal with that jump? 499 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 4: You know how long? 500 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: I know how long? You and George Jefferies was friends too, 501 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: just like how me and you played their Like would 502 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: you ever imagine that from y'all playing from high school 503 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: against each other to you meet up with them and 504 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: that's your home boy. 505 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: Friend, You know what I mean? Were good friends, like 506 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: I said, just to come up playing against each other 507 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: and circuit and and being competition and going at each 508 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: other and the vally for the state mister basketball. So 509 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I said, nothing but 510 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 2: respect it man. 511 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: It was. 512 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: It was, you know, a great teammates, Yeah, a great teammate. 513 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: You know. Jared was always a nice dude, hilarious nice. 514 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 4: Jaredy is hilarious, hilarious right now this moment. 515 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: He is hilarious. 516 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: Sick dude. 517 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: When I seen Jared, I was like, I thought he 518 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: was nice, nice, like he can shoot dribble. I was like, man, 519 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: that's my competition, right like Jared and I heard about 520 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: Jeryl Waller. 521 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: Gil Waller while you was one of the reasons. 522 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: I was like, n I ain't no power for I 523 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: ain't gonna be going devo down there. 524 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: I'm putting nothing body out your time and ship like 525 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: no at the mixed boy on them get nowhere near 526 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: and all the rebound. 527 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: I was like, no, man, I'm not gonna go on 528 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: him every time when I go hire, that means I'm mad. 529 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: Like nah, I'm mad. I'm tired of him. 530 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: You know, you know he's playing straight with his elbow. Gee, 531 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: what was so different? 532 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: I know it seemed like you moving around in two years. 533 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: For each other. You go to. 534 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: Memphis, you go to Memphis in it it clicked like 535 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: I always liked Mark Gasol game, like when I was down, 536 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: I was thirty year before you. I always liked Mark Gasol. 537 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: I didn't believe in Conley until Lion o'holland's believed in Conley. 538 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't gonna say 539 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: I didn't believe in him. I knew he was nice 540 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: and he could play, and then I thought Kyle Lawry 541 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: was better than him at the time. But once he 542 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: got the opportunity to play like he was way better 543 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: than what I thought. He was, like, like, like way better. 544 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, he supposed to be here. 545 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: He played d he gets steals. So when you got 546 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: to Memphis, Like what clicked that y'all kind of clicked 547 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: together and y'all start winning games. Y'all won't do Nobody 548 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: think y'all gonna make the playoffs. 549 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: No, I mean we almost, you know. The first year 550 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: I got there, it was like forty games, I think, 551 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: like twenty something more better games, so we was close 552 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 2: to the ninth eighth spot for us, you know, from 553 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: a team going from twenty two to twenty wins then 554 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: forty something wins, So that was big, man. I think, 555 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: like you said, just you know, Mike is a special player, 556 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I said, I'm both 557 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: ends and Mark two, you know what I mean. You know, 558 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: legitimate one of the best centers you know, in the 559 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: last couple of years to be argued that can be argued. 560 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: So it was just like the right spots, the right 561 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: players in each spot, and he had Tay come in, 562 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it was just I 563 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: think everything he missed. 564 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: The perfect like y'all just greed and grimy like today, 565 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: it was like a perfect player to bring in with 566 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: how you mark and kind of kind of unfolded. 567 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: The best part about y'all, I felt like was the 568 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: way y'all fit the DNA of the city. 569 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like. 570 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 3: Y'all all blue collar dudes, work hard, like y'all fit 571 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: the whole. Like that's why I feel like the city 572 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: loves y'all the way y'all did. 573 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 4: Like you come there. 574 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 3: It used to be rocking, Like when y'all was at 575 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: y'all prying with that thing, y'all had that thing cranking 576 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: and it was all about you know, gritting, grind, the 577 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: grindfather Ta and all that, and it was you felt 578 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 3: that like you know what I was when you played 579 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 3: in certain arange, y'all had had built something like when 580 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: you came in there, you felt what y'all had going 581 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: on in the city. 582 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: Rock with coaches and they used to tell us, tell me, 583 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: the players man, like they didn't want to come and play, 584 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: like they don't want to come in. You know, when 585 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 2: you was coming to the forum, it was you got 586 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: time up tight, like it's like you know what I mean, 587 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: Like it ain't gonna be easy, so get your rest, 588 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: and you know we was ready, man. 589 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: You know about uh the year y'all went to the 590 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: conference finals, Like didn't nobody have y'all going y'all popping 591 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: first round, pops on second round, pop to go there far? Man, 592 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you being one of the 593 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: best players. Like what clicked that year? What click with y'all? 594 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: That It was just like, man, we we we got 595 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to go to the championship and and once you 596 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: go to the championship, it's like rolling the dust man. Man. 597 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: Just everybody I think, like around the time too, Mike 598 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: starting to get this confidence in, you know, marking, you know, 599 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: just everybody was just clicking and we all was. Everybody 600 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: was good friends. You know, we carried about each other 601 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, spent time with each other, 602 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: team being stuff together, and you know, we got along 603 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: real well and we pushed each other and man, we 604 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: our confidence was high, you know what I mean. And 605 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: you know I thought that was gonna be the year. 606 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: But man, that was you know, the best experience for me, 607 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: you know, of my career, you know, going there. 608 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: And going to Memphis, it was like another home. Especially, 609 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: I know, you got like brothers, just like family members. 610 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah in Memphis, so I know that's all kind of yeah. 611 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: I came into us, Yeah, I got family life and 612 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: just man, it was just like you said, the team 613 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: and just the city still. Man, you know it's home. 614 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: You know what I mean for me, just the love 615 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, just everything. 616 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the what you do. You know what 617 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying, you what you intier. I know y'all was 618 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: heavily in the community there. How you did everything paying 619 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: for people bills, power, like just giving back, doing drives 620 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: and giving food and different holidays and stuff. Just talk 621 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: about how that is. Like I know you grew up 622 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: similar to how we did, not having much. So you 623 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Talk about how that made you 624 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: feel to be able to do that for Memphis and 625 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: how they embrace you. 626 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: Man, just like you said, just you know, being able 627 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 2: to relate, you know, just that and being a blessing, 628 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: you know, because you give a blessing, receive the blessing. 629 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: You know That's how I feel. And I still get back. 630 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: I still do my holiday. I still play to do 631 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: the light bills every year, so this thing will continue on, you. 632 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: Know, no, right, super, I know you still do. 633 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know I'm still you know, heleen the community. 634 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: So you know that's how's all it's gonna be man. 635 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Start cutting bench. I wanna ask you, but shee Wallace, 636 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan Kim going that would you start? Who would 637 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: you bench? And who would you cut off your team? 638 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: Wallace Kim going that and Tim Duncan, I. 639 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 3: Know you battled it all though. Yeah, that's the one 640 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: thing that he could say. But when he did this 641 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: thing in the league, it wasn't that that that powderpuff power. 642 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: For he was playing all grown men with a seven 643 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: foot of sitting there. Man, he so long he gotta man, 644 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: she duncan. 645 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: Grown men. 646 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: O cat for real. Man, that's tough right there. Man, 647 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: I mean he can go either way right start probably dunking. 648 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: Start dunking. Had she come off the bench? Cocka Yeah, 649 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: I had to cutcag on this round. Okay, I respected, 650 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: I got the ticket. 651 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: On this one. 652 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: Hey, man, talk to me about your next piece, man, 653 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: I like, I like your next piece. What's you sound 654 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: like a little? You got your entertainment thing going on? 655 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: Man? 656 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: Endless entertainment man, endless man, no trend to this end. 657 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 658 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 3: You're a business man, money bag yo, yo, money the 659 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: man behind the man? 660 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. It's 661 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: been a blessing man. You know, one of my best friends, 662 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: you know Marcus, you know, my business partner, you know 663 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: what I mean, running for me and you know we 664 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: just came together with you know, with Bagg and Man 665 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: doing the city and no Bag one of the best 666 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: artists out there, you know me and you know what 667 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: I mean. 668 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: Definitely right. 669 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: So we just pushed this thing. Man, I want this 670 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: thing hole man, I won't try to get some push 671 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: inside man, trying to make this thing like the rock, 672 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 673 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you ever see yourself being a owner that 674 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: a music label, being a man. 675 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 4: Like yeah, you. 676 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: Say with the new cash money, you know what I'm saying. 677 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: In the charge you definitely you definitely got some stuff going. 678 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: I love his ad letter. Uh uh kid. 679 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: His talented man, little brother talent and means special. And 680 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: you know he just gotta keep pushing, like I tell him, 681 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: just be positive, just life man, just being a good 682 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: person and you know, just living writing, you know what 683 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: I mean, just doing right. 684 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 4: So you know that's what he who told me that 685 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 4: was your I was like, you know, we listening like 686 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 4: you know this z boy. I was like, what you mean? 687 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 4: He's like, you got am, I'm like for really like okay. 688 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah man, So you know been a blessed man. 689 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: So what you being in the music in you in 690 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: the music business, your business man in the music business 691 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: preferred being to the hip hop. 692 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 4: Let me give me your give me your top five. 693 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 4: Let me hear your top five hip. 694 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: Hop album I love I love hip hop all time though, Like, 695 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: don't talk about like your your favorite you on you 696 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: gotta go to a be stranded on the island. 697 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 4: What's the five CDs you wanna take? I said, CD, I'm. 698 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: Five albums, you know definitely, you know all money bag 699 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: for show, you know, like it in but you know 700 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: everything you know, listen to pop man. You know I 701 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: grew up in the air listening CE Bowl, you know 702 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: what I mean, snoop, you know what I mean, three six, 703 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: everything that's. 704 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Free. 705 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, freed, Yeah, dog Pound, m 706 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: c a EM all that, you know what I mean. 707 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: So it will be your albums. Like if you stranded 708 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: on the island, what would be the the five albums 709 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: that you you would need to listen to? Straighten on 710 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: this up man, listen. 711 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: To mixtapes, albums, I know you just you know, I know. 712 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 4: Fresh off line while. 713 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 2: More back in the head mixed really man, Tupac all 714 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:30,479 Speaker 2: eyes on me, lives on me? Uh too hardless bad? Yeah, 715 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: probably the old little bit Keith sweat and uh Merry 716 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: go round, you know jas you know, come down, you 717 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 2: know what I mean, put a little smooth and its. 718 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 4: And wrong James vibe. You're coming to the locker room 719 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 4: here in the hot wrong. 720 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: Man. It's a lot bro probably aromatic and now uh 721 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: it's that jay. 722 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: Z h reasonal doubt. Yeah, you purchased a team with 723 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: al Hering. 724 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and. 725 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: Got an Australian team. Like that's that's big for us, 726 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: like for somebody. 727 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: In the on this box, you know what I mean, Like, 728 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: let me get the sky. Let this sky. You know, 729 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: you know we were rough around Edges man, but you 730 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: know we real and we show people bespecting get a 731 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: person strut for our back. So you know, it's just 732 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: been a blessing man, knowing people developing relationships man, and 733 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 2: just being able to, like you said, step is something 734 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: totally different. 735 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: You know, got a lot to give, you know, a 736 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: lot of knowledge to get you know what I'm saying. 737 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: While we're still. 738 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 2: Sitting into the youngsters out there. You know, great ex 739 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: I talked to a lot of the young players from 740 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: every team I played on, you know what I mean. 741 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 2: Last two here's Memphis King. So just you know what 742 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: I mean, just being positive, teaching everything. Ship. 743 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: We've been through everything. We've been through ups and downs 744 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: around the callers, you know. 745 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 4: Man, definitely a dope example for sure. 746 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: With Australia. That's on my bucket list. So I gotta 747 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: go out there and catch the game with you. 748 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 2: Got to come on. 749 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 4: Down, man. So man, I heard that you got a 750 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 4: younger one this out here tearing. 751 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: Up the court. Yeah, man, shout out man, my baby Mkelly. 752 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 4: Man, how that feel? 753 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: Man? 754 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 3: I seen I seen like a little Clipper songs Kobe 755 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: daughter and Mama academy. I said, wait a minute, is 756 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 3: that because you know the exact man? 757 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: I say, Yo, Yeah, Man, she she's doing good. Man, 758 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: she's my baby man fourteen. And you know Kobe, he 759 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: the coach, he out there teaching him. And that's a blessing, 760 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 2: you know, to have a goat. Yeah, be able to 761 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: work with your daughter and you know what I mean. 762 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: So it's all the blessing and she loves it. Man, 763 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: She's a good kids straight They student. That's awesome, bro, 764 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: And you know she takes care of business. 765 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 3: Fall in love with the game that you fell in love. 766 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: I'm giving to hear straight student. That's that's really good 767 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: business right there. 768 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 2: She's going to see her can so you know what 769 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 2: I mean, she hooping and my baby. 770 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: When you came up, who was it that you was 771 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: like patting your game. 772 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: After calming on Sea web players like that? She you know, 773 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: Duncan Dutchman like you know what I mean, Duncan Like 774 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: you know post guys. You know I said, the game 775 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: has changed now, you know it's different from we played 776 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 2: shoot threes? 777 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 4: Handled about that? Then you want to be a. 778 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: Real powerful Yeah, get your ass on the block, meaning 779 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: so what you canna do? 780 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Coming up when we was coming up, like who 781 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: did you sing? Like you know if our age group, like, hey, 782 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: you ball? Who was the hitters that you've seen? You 783 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: was like, man, that boy that can go? 784 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 2: Man, it was Carlos Hurt. Carlos Hurt from Houston, Houston. 785 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 3: Who was somebody you saw that you was like, Yo, 786 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 3: this dude is a straight up walking bucket. Even I'm 787 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 3: talking about like maybe being high school, college or even 788 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: in the NBA. Somebody who might have didn't get in 789 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 3: the game play a lot. But like you know when 790 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: you see somebody probably like yo, smart, like. 791 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 4: Like he's like for real, Like we don't like he 792 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 4: don't get in the game, but he'd be killing everybody. 793 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 4: Coach don't like him. Michel Wood was. 794 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: Like that, especially you know, younger years. He was in 795 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: Portland and you know he's playing, but he's playing front 796 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 2: some dogs and like I said, coach, cheefers play. You 797 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 2: know he's gonna go with vets, so you know what 798 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: I mean. 799 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to play one on one. 800 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cotell get bucks Man. A lot of guys get 801 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 2: buckets Man. 802 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: Hot the guy. Do you remember Jeron Harper? Yeah, he 803 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: was hard. She was hard. Jaron Harper was real boy. 804 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: Jeron from South Carolina somewhere. 805 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: Okay, remember's wrong. He was a little rough off the heads, 806 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: but he was like us. 807 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 4: He was. 808 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: Our class, that two thousand class. You gotta pick two 809 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: other players to play with in your three on three. 810 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: Who is the two other players that you will play with? 811 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: Omark Cook? 812 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: Oh was nice? 813 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: Omar probably Eddie Griffin and it was nice and like 814 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 2: we all was nice to you. You know what I 815 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 2: mean Mark, we had Marcus Taylor, We had a squaw. 816 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: We had a class. 817 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a nice class. Michigan, Miss Brown, Jared Jefferies, 818 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:39,959 Speaker 1: Gerald Wallace, Mario Austin. Yeah. Andre Brown likes to think 819 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: when you were with the Sacramento Kings, like man, seeing 820 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: like them all the young talents they had out there, 821 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: and like man, how they was progressing, and you to 822 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: be on the bench to give them them jewels. Who 823 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: was like a couple of players that many. 824 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 2: A young boys. Man, my young boys. You know, I 825 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 2: still talk to a lot of them. You know, I'm 826 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 2: go down there and catch 'em, catch 'em games and 827 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: practice with 'em, you know what I mean. So just 828 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: great guys, man, They got a great you know what 829 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 2: they doing down They got a great young core. You 830 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: know Badley, you know Harry and you know Dearn. 831 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 832 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: Guys like fox Boy's noise. Sac Sacramento though, you know 833 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: what I mean. And you know they got a good 834 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: owner and you know r Lotty doing great job. I 835 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 2: just everything about the organization, man is. 836 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: It's on the up and up. I got another funny store, 837 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: you know. Paul Allen rest in peace, Paul Allen. He 838 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: used to have these planes. You know, he wanted the 839 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: richest owner, if not the richest owner. Boy and one 840 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: of his planes used to have a dining room, table, 841 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 1: a bedroom, bathroom. It wasn't like the usual team plans 842 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: that we ride. It was like a mansion. 843 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 4: It was like a ma I think so. 844 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 6: Took a shiite the man's throw flame the throne room. 845 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 846 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 4: If you're going the bathroom in the in the role. 847 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 1: It's a little. 848 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 4: To the rest of the play. 849 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: I didn't want to let who did it. I forgot 850 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: who did it with somebody? Me and z Bo. This 851 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: is my partner in crime. 852 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 4: Me and z Bo. 853 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: We opened the cast, were in the living room. We 854 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: opened the cabins up. We just see a. 855 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 6: Bottle of We don't even know what it is. Gotta 856 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 6: be because the bottom looks it was a crystal battle. 857 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 6: They not report whatever it is inside the crystal joint. 858 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 6: Zebo killed it. The whole playing ride. We stipping that 859 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 6: and they wonder where we get where we get drink from. 860 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: Looking for it? 861 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: Like man, man, can't let them take that plate over. 862 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: Bob is a good guy, man, good man. 863 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a real good man when we went 864 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: to his house thover. Ain't there been nothing like it before, 865 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: like the Secret Service. Everywhere. You couldn't even go outside 866 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: of where you're supposed to be at. Somebody pop up like, 867 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 1: yeah you need to go there, bushes and all that stuff. 868 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: You need to go that way, follow them. No, y'all 869 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: stay in one group. No, we want to leave all. 870 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 2: Y'all leave sticking around looking around. 871 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: No shirt. 872 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 3: So before we wrap up and get you out of here, man, 873 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 3: courtesy of our generous sponsors Hennessy. 874 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, just the vso be very special though a special. 875 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 876 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 877 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate that, bro shout. Appreciate that. Man, Thank you, 878 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, gentlemen, thank you too. 879 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: If I want to commend you, you was in my class. 880 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: So it's like I seen you ever since I was 881 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: fifteen years old, and you know, you come up and 882 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: you got the ones that you root for. If you 883 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: can't go there far you want them to go for. 884 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: So when I was I couldn't play or our retired 885 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: to see you go to Memphis and do your thing. 886 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: Average twenty points, ten rebounds most of your career in 887 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: this league. Like man, I commend you, like man, we happy, 888 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: we root for you as well, and you definitely should 889 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 1: be a Hall of Fame. Like whether anybody else said, again, 890 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: everybody know that you should be a Hall of Fame. 891 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 1: So I hope you make that. I remember the time 892 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: when you was averaging twenty and ten when I got 893 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: there and you wanted to make the All Star team. 894 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 2: Man, so many times they robbed me, and then they 895 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 2: robbed you because you had better numbers when the big 896 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 2: man that was making the All Star team. And when 897 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 2: you finally made to Memphis, Man, I was so proud 898 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 2: of you, man, and everything that you're doing and what 899 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: you did in your career. Man us as a whole, Yeah, 900 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: I would you know your family, bro were proud. 901 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: I was proud proud of you. 902 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 4: Go and say I just I'm even more proud you 903 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 4: know how, just like you know you. 904 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 3: Just from the growth and showing how you are you 905 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, entrepreneur, businessman, really getting it in 906 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: on your side and just showing. I feel like you 907 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 3: one of the biggest greatest examples for kids from our 908 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 3: communities to see, you know what I'm saying, somebody who 909 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 3: really did did some stuff and you know what I'm saying, 910 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 3: But still at the end of the day, show like 911 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 3: you can do some stuff and make mistakes and still 912 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 3: man in a major way and be a solid, solid 913 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 3: individual and how your game on points. 914 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying, super. 915 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: Boy, I know you one of the real ones. And 916 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: when one of the real ones kind of make it 917 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: through it and then have to like bullshit nobody or 918 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: do it the wrong way or sneak to get to 919 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: your spot, you learn everything you get, no sucker showways. 920 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: Tip our head off to the geez, the few of 921 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: us that are out there doing this and doing our things. 922 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: So man, like I said, Hall of Fame, z Bo, 923 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: that's what you is on our show. You holler names Bo. 924 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 2: Appreciate every other thing. 925 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: On talk about. 926 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: Appreciate that love love for show. So appreciate man. Knumb ahead, 927 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm coming back, No man, I got to have you 928 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 2: back straight up. 929 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 4: H m hm. 930 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 1: The Players Tribute dot Com