Speaker 1: Good morning, peep Sena. Welcome to willkay F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,
Speaker 1: today is the day. Today is the final day to
Speaker 1: be able to vote for our futures. It is election day,
Speaker 1: and I am really grateful to be joined in conversation
Speaker 1: with my friend the Reverend Mark Thompson and host of
Speaker 1: Make It Plain. Mark and I've been in conversation counting
Speaker 1: down this midterm election for the last several months. And
Speaker 1: you know what I will say, folks, is regardless of
Speaker 1: the outcome, right, because you're going to be listening to
Speaker 1: this in the morning, and as of this recording, I
Speaker 1: have no idea what will transpire. But what I do
Speaker 1: know is this, we need to start looking at elections
Speaker 1: if in fact we're able to advance with our democracy
Speaker 1: and continue to have free and fair elections as layers
Speaker 1: of a cake. They are not one and done. One
Speaker 1: election alone does not save us, right. They need to
Speaker 1: layer on top of each other, right, because when you
Speaker 1: have that longevity, when you have that pipeline, when you
Speaker 1: have that reservoir right of hopefulness of values, that is
Speaker 1: what advances our society. That is what moves us towards progress.
Speaker 1: One election alone, isn't it. And that's what we need
Speaker 1: to understand and wrap our minds around. And I'm not
Speaker 1: talking just about the federal level, folks. I need everybody
Speaker 1: to be turning up for your school board elections, for
Speaker 1: your city council elections, for your state board elections, for
Speaker 1: your medical board elections in the same way that you
Speaker 1: turn not for the presidential election. Because if there is
Speaker 1: nothing else that we have seen over the last several years,
Speaker 1: is that the more localized, right, folks, are the ones
Speaker 1: that really have control. And that if you do not
Speaker 1: ever show up at your school board and think that
Speaker 1: you know, oh, because I don't have kids, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: This is your future workforce, right or your future problem.
Speaker 1: So it matters what young people are being taught, whether
Speaker 1: or not you have kids. It matters who is representing
Speaker 1: you in the city council. It matters who is fighting
Speaker 1: for you as mayor. It matters right who your electeds
Speaker 1: are and whether or not they share the same values
Speaker 1: and vision for the future that you do. And it
Speaker 1: isn't just enough for us to be one and done right.
Speaker 1: You don't brush your teeth on Monday and then not
Speaker 1: again until the end of the week, right, because that
Speaker 1: would one be nasty and two because it's not good hygiene. Well,
Speaker 1: we need to have better political hygiene, right. We need
Speaker 1: to take care of our politics in the way that
Speaker 1: we should be taking care of our teeth and our bodies,
Speaker 1: which is that we don't neglect when we're in pain,
Speaker 1: we don't neglect when things go wrong, because guess what,
Speaker 1: those ailments overlooked turned into much bigger problems, which is
Speaker 1: where we are right now with American democracy. And so
Speaker 1: I say this to folks not as a way for
Speaker 1: us to just throw up our hands and say, well,
Speaker 1: nothing can be done. I say that the work is
Speaker 1: never done, and that we need to be able to
Speaker 1: get to a place to remove our own egos from
Speaker 1: what it is that we want to see transformed in
Speaker 1: our lifetime and start thinking like the abolitionists, start fighting
Speaker 1: for a future that we may never be a part of,
Speaker 1: but what we do now matters to that future. Think
Speaker 1: about abolitionists and formerly enslave that we're fighting against a
Speaker 1: system that was centuries old, that was built into the
Speaker 1: very fabric, the foundation, the soil laced with blood of
Speaker 1: the enslaved to build this country, and it was inside
Speaker 1: of folks's imaginations, both free and enslaved, that said we
Speaker 1: can dream and fight for another day. So I need
Speaker 1: for us to embody the spirit of our ancestors in
Speaker 1: that way, right, and not for everything to be about
Speaker 1: our own immediate gratification and our own sense of ease.
Speaker 1: We are fighting now for the future, and that's what
Speaker 1: we need to understand with each and every passing election
Speaker 1: and all of the time that transpires in between. So
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Speaker 1: the Reverend Mark Thompson of Make It Plain. Hey there,
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Speaker 1: So you know that whenever we have the opportunity once
Speaker 1: a month to speak with our good, good friend, the
Speaker 1: Reverend Mark Thompson and host of Make It Plain, I
Speaker 1: am overjoyed and by the comments that I get from
Speaker 1: all of you about Mark's feedback and analytics, I know
Speaker 1: that you all look forward to it as well. It
Speaker 1: is election day, dear friends, which we talk about as
Speaker 1: the final day to vote, but not the day that
Speaker 1: you should be tapping in and so Mark, before we
Speaker 1: dig into where we are in our democracy and what
Speaker 1: is going to be needed moving forward, I just want
Speaker 1: to take your temperature and see you know, how are
Speaker 1: you feeling on this day and how have you been
Speaker 1: feeling with regard to to to where we find ourselves
Speaker 1: right now? Well, always good when our shows can join together, Danielle,
Speaker 1: and it's a pleasure always to be with you. I'm
Speaker 1: a little a little nervous, but optimistic. Honestly, I think
Speaker 1: the mooved on our side is motivated. How I don't
Speaker 1: know where they out to compensate for all the little tricks.
Speaker 1: They may have a plan or anything else. What I
Speaker 1: what I am kind of riled up about is how
Speaker 1: the mainstream media has been reporting that Republicans are are
Speaker 1: surging or doing better, and those are some outlier poles
Speaker 1: that are saying that that's not necessarily true. That is discouraging.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be, but at times that's discouraging to those
Speaker 1: of us who haven't tapped in yet, to use your phraseology,
Speaker 1: And it's very disappointing to me that that's happening again,
Speaker 1: that even enjoy read has talked about it. You know,
Speaker 1: why are you all pushing this narrative of impending or
Speaker 1: imminent loss on the part of the Democrats. That's not clear.
Speaker 1: That's not something that is guaranteed. You know. Also, it
Speaker 1: strikes me as quite conspicuous that a major network would
Speaker 1: be forced to cancel a black woman show, a show
Speaker 1: that would have most likely mobilized even more people's supposed
Speaker 1: on the weekend before the election. We're talking about Tiffany
Speaker 1: Cross And I'm also at a loss to understand how
Speaker 1: another network can bring that kind of pressure to bear
Speaker 1: on another network, because that's where it's coming from. It
Speaker 1: came from the outside. It's Tucker Carlson is Fox, and
Speaker 1: they targeted her because she was pushing back against Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson and others. I pray that they don't come for joy,
Speaker 1: but they've always come to joy. But I pray that
Speaker 1: the powers to be wants to come and get rid
Speaker 1: of her. But be that asn't make that stands out.
Speaker 1: So when you said, you know, when we talk about Twitter,
Speaker 1: what's happening on social media's appalling. Twitter probably needs to die, Yeah, frankly, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it probably will, yep. But I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of us contemplated what would be the consequences if
Speaker 1: we no longer had their social media because we wanted
Speaker 1: to build on yes, which I mean, we're trying to
Speaker 1: do something fan base. I get that, but you know,
Speaker 1: we all still want to be over to others with
Speaker 1: the other with the white social media companies, because you know,
Speaker 1: to us that ice is cold. That's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot going on. I do think the
Speaker 1: and I don't support Kanye at all. Kanye is is
Speaker 1: not a loss to me. We should have been done
Speaker 1: with Kanye when he said slavery was a choice, and
Speaker 1: then white Lives Matter, and then he's saying George Floyd
Speaker 1: wasn't really kill about the police. There's that the piece
Speaker 1: with Kyrie, which is hidden folk differently. Obviously, Kyrie probably
Speaker 1: should have vetted that movie a little bit more closely.
Speaker 1: There are issues with that movie. It is not false
Speaker 1: to say, and I've never heard anybody get in trouble
Speaker 1: for saying the original Hebrews were Africa. I've never seen
Speaker 1: a controversy to come out of that. But there are
Speaker 1: other things in the movie. Allegedly there's Holocaust denial and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. You gotta vet that stuff.
Speaker 1: But what that does, though, is in this moment, that's
Speaker 1: not a Quinkie day. It's it's a been demoralizing to
Speaker 1: us and it's a distraction. So people call me young,
Speaker 1: especially young people because they're not used to this. We
Speaker 1: like Kyrie, I said, we'll go vote anyway, just like
Speaker 1: you got to compartmentalize. Don't let that distract you discourage
Speaker 1: you from voting. So, I mean, these things are taking place,
Speaker 1: but in spite of that, I think women are showing
Speaker 1: up in numbers doing the right thing. Young people are
Speaker 1: showing up in numbers doing the right thing. It'd be
Speaker 1: really great if Stacey could win. Yeah, they're saying that's
Speaker 1: not likely, but again that's the hit job set. Kanye's
Speaker 1: is the real tangible, problematic individual, problematic musician or rapp
Speaker 1: or whatever he is, is killer Mike because he's not there,
Speaker 1: you know, having people in Georgia not vote for Stacey.
Speaker 1: He's run around taking pictures with Brian Kemp. But what
Speaker 1: is that about, you know? And that's that's Kanye is
Speaker 1: not necessarily affecting a race right now. This is this
Speaker 1: is something today they will be voted upon. So I mean,
Speaker 1: all those things are taking place. I may not sound
Speaker 1: as optimistic, but I still am. I'm still prayerful. I'm
Speaker 1: still kind of hoping that this country's gonna show what
Speaker 1: it really is. But if it doesn't, if it shows,
Speaker 1: it's going the other way, and then we know what
Speaker 1: we're facing. You know, I want to talk a bit
Speaker 1: more unpack where you're getting your optimism from, because in
Speaker 1: all of the things that you have laid out, you know,
Speaker 1: I agree wholeheartedly with all of them. I believe in
Speaker 1: the same way that Kanye West, Kyrie Irving in the
Speaker 1: NBA and you know her herschel Walker. I think that
Speaker 1: they're all planted distractions for the black community. I think
Speaker 1: that what I believe it is Reverend Jamal Bryant, who
Speaker 1: went viral last week, whose video takedown of herschel Walker
Speaker 1: I shared on my social media, where he said essentially
Speaker 1: that the Republicans think very little of us as black people.
Speaker 1: They think that we're stupid. They would think they think
Speaker 1: that we will, as he had said, you know, follow
Speaker 1: a man with a ball rather than a man with philosophy, right,
Speaker 1: with a football rather than a man with philosophy. And
Speaker 1: that's what I think about when I see these kind
Speaker 1: of white supremacis plants, which is what I will refer
Speaker 1: to Kanye West, Kyrie Irving and herschel Walker as because
Speaker 1: they are susceptible, right and have been led by and
Speaker 1: have been you know, what's the word that I'm looking for,
Speaker 1: overwhelmed by the welcoming of whiteness, right, that has always
Speaker 1: been where they have found their power. They believe that
Speaker 1: being contrary, being contrarian, makes them somehow free thinkers. But
Speaker 1: it's funny to me that you're thinking aligns with white
Speaker 1: supremacy and that's what you think is free thinking. Um.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I think that Republicans and the
Speaker 1: white supremacist party think very little of black people. And
Speaker 1: I know that we you Mark, and I think very
Speaker 1: highly of black people, right, and black people I don't
Speaker 1: believe will fall for the rope and dope. I believe
Speaker 1: that the you know, killer mics of them all again,
Speaker 1: they find power in aligning themselves with whiteness, you know.
Speaker 1: And and I have no idea why that is not
Speaker 1: you know that it's not my bag. I don't care
Speaker 1: to waste time trying to unpack them. It's about the
Speaker 1: bag that it isn't Yeah, exactly right, right, It's about
Speaker 1: it's about the money, um, and how they can feed
Speaker 1: themselves rather than being concerned about how their community is
Speaker 1: being fed um or being starved. Rather so I think
Speaker 1: that you know, all those things being taken into consideration, though, Mark,
Speaker 1: you know, what is it in this moment because I
Speaker 1: think that I go to a spiritual place, I go
Speaker 1: to a prayerful place when I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: it is always you know, darkest before the dawn. There
Speaker 1: is something to the rising of the phoenix through the ashes.
Speaker 1: There is something of the pushing through of the lotus
Speaker 1: flower through the mud, right like there is something to
Speaker 1: those idioms, those examples that are provided throughout throughout throughout
Speaker 1: history and so what is grounding I guess your hopefulness
Speaker 1: in this moment, because I believe that regardless of the
Speaker 1: outcome of this election, we have forever been changed as
Speaker 1: a country. And so I'm curious as to how you
Speaker 1: see your hopefulness and how you see the path forward,
Speaker 1: the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of
Speaker 1: things not seen. That's faith. So that ain't a lot
Speaker 1: to go on. But that's just the faith I have.
Speaker 1: But also thinks this as not King said, you still
Speaker 1: have to believe in the common decency of human time.
Speaker 1: Most people are supposed to be good people and decent people.
Speaker 1: Looking at the alternative and everything that has happened, you
Speaker 1: kind of you really just have to kind of believe.
Speaker 1: Folks aren't gonna let this go back again. People saw
Speaker 1: January six, people saw the reckoning. People are seeing the idiocy.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that the tragedy of Herschel Walker because
Speaker 1: as a part of me to feel sorry for Herschel.
Speaker 1: He's being exploited. He really Herschel's not well on a
Speaker 1: number of levels levels, and he's being exploitted. So I
Speaker 1: hope that people and see if our side just does
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to do. We have more numbers than
Speaker 1: they do. Anyway, if two thirds of us, maybe half
Speaker 1: of us, little over half, just do what we're supposed
Speaker 1: to do and not become discouraged or just don't do anything,
Speaker 1: just kind of blow it off. The problem with our
Speaker 1: side is, and you know, I've talked about this before,
Speaker 1: if we project we're doing well, right, then people on
Speaker 1: our side, so we're good. I don't I don't have
Speaker 1: to go that neanksgiving because we're good. If we say,
Speaker 1: if it's said we're doing poorly or I'm demoralized, I'm
Speaker 1: not going. I mean, we come up with a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons not to do it, and we're still we
Speaker 1: still have to build the kind of culture whereby voting
Speaker 1: is second nature. It's got to be. It should be
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to do. And in some ways it
Speaker 1: is versus you know, being in a struggle three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty four the other days out of the year,
Speaker 1: like you and I are, some people all they do
Speaker 1: is go vote, and it's like it's all it's all
Speaker 1: you gotta do, it's all you're gonna do. It's all
Speaker 1: you want to do is just do that. Let's get
Speaker 1: that done and don't wait and start it today out
Speaker 1: some of y'all wake up this morning. Oh by the way,
Speaker 1: I forgot I got to go vote. Please God though
Speaker 1: so but but I am. I'm hopeful, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to women with this Dab's decision. I don't see
Speaker 1: how women can stay home. I don't see how women
Speaker 1: can vote any other way but the right way. And
Speaker 1: even young women and young people, because younger men now
Speaker 1: think on our side, closer to the way women think,
Speaker 1: because they want women to be protected. They believe in
Speaker 1: women being protected and having bottled all time. Younger, this
Speaker 1: younger generation man doesn't seem to be as threatened by
Speaker 1: that as the older generation. So that's where that's where
Speaker 1: mind comes from. And I just really hope people do
Speaker 1: it today. It's it's there's only one right thing to do.
Speaker 1: This is the right thing to do. The rest of
Speaker 1: this is in it's not just right wing and racist,
Speaker 1: see see, because what saying is Kanye is not the leader,
Speaker 1: the world leader, or the world symbol of anti semitism.
Speaker 1: Right that's coming from their side. And you notice, you know,
Speaker 1: Trump and those people are anti Semitic, But people don't
Speaker 1: make as much noise about them. So when you come
Speaker 1: for Kanye or somebody one person that's that's low hanging fruit,
Speaker 1: Let's hit Trump at the ballot box. Let's hit his
Speaker 1: ilk at the ballot box. Then you're waging a struggle
Speaker 1: because because the people who go and blow up the synagogue,
Speaker 1: set fire to synagogues, they're coming out of his champ
Speaker 1: ain't coming out of Black camp. Ye, Kanye, don't hand
Speaker 1: no followers, ain't coming out of another people. It's coming
Speaker 1: out of the Trump people, all right, And so vote
Speaker 1: doesnting too. Is the sad thing about the whole Kanye
Speaker 1: piece and anti Semitism thing. Seventy percent of Jewish people
Speaker 1: Jewish voters and ninety percent of Black voters the same way.
Speaker 1: We don't disagree on nothing. We don't really disagree on nothing.
Speaker 1: So you know, there's some people who, you know, have
Speaker 1: a need to say that the route or the headquarters
Speaker 1: the bastion of anti Semitism these days is in the
Speaker 1: black community. I had, you know, hours with Tamika Mallory
Speaker 1: during the Women's March and that whole kerfuffle, and a
Speaker 1: rabbi said to us one night, asked the question, asked,
Speaker 1: why does the African American community want to send our
Speaker 1: people back to the Ovens who were like, who you talking?
Speaker 1: There's no black person having a conversation like that anywhere
Speaker 1: in the world, but somebody has decided to make you
Speaker 1: believe that, so you can divide us. Black Foot, Wigham,
Speaker 1: everyoneted to fight white people in the white supremacy, not
Speaker 1: specifically Jews. We see white, we don't see so you know,
Speaker 1: but that's a devipe something actually say that. It was
Speaker 1: shocking and gonna tell us where black people think it say,
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't nobody blacking than me, and no nobody,
Speaker 1: no nor more black people than me. Never been a
Speaker 1: coms been in a conversation like that, never nothing like that,
Speaker 1: it has ever happened. Um. But but the Trump ilk
Speaker 1: and who they're connected to, even in Europe, these right
Speaker 1: wing European books, they ready, they went, they want to
Speaker 1: do the oven again and that's where the war needs
Speaker 1: to be. So folks getting out today and not only
Speaker 1: do that, calling people, you know, young people, you know,
Speaker 1: driving some folks to the polls in your car. Because
Speaker 1: this is and I'm will say this, it's gonna be tight.
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Speaker 1: every Tuesday. Yeah. I think that it's important one to
Speaker 1: recognize that the divisions that we see between marginalized groups
Speaker 1: is purposeful. It is part of the largest strategy because
Speaker 1: if we were to actually come together as a collective,
Speaker 1: we outnumber right the right. And that's what I want,
Speaker 1: you know what I believe mark in moving forward. And
Speaker 1: you know, former Senator Doug Jones said this last week
Speaker 1: when he was on cable news show. Former Senator out
Speaker 1: of Alabama who got his seat in Alabama because of
Speaker 1: black women in that state who said, We're not putting
Speaker 1: a pedophile in office to represent us. So what he
Speaker 1: said is that Democrats problem is that they want to
Speaker 1: back candidates as opposed to hype up their ideology and
Speaker 1: get people voters, the electorate to back a movement. Right
Speaker 1: that it's always about, Oh, we'll go vote for Fetterman
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, go vote you know, against Trump, Go vote
Speaker 1: for Stacy Abrahams in Georgia. It is always about the
Speaker 1: person as opposed to the long term policy and as
Speaker 1: opposed to the ideology and the values of democracy right
Speaker 1: and Democrats. And so I want to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on one his assertion there if that is the wrong
Speaker 1: move that Democrats have been making, and in your mind, Mark,
Speaker 1: as we turn the page on this mid term and
Speaker 1: as of this recording, folks, again it's election day. We
Speaker 1: don't know the results and probably will not know until
Speaker 1: you know later in the week, how do you perceive
Speaker 1: how do you envision us moving forward? Right to rally
Speaker 1: people around the idea of democracy, Right to stop seeding
Speaker 1: words like patriotism and freedom to the right who have
Speaker 1: totally co opted it and also twisted it into a
Speaker 1: different way and meaning, well, first of all, on that,
Speaker 1: I think that's an accurate assessment. You don't hear a
Speaker 1: lot about ideology. It is true some have said in
Speaker 1: the punditry that Democrats are playing defense, and they are.
Speaker 1: You're trying to hold the ball, You're trying to run
Speaker 1: out the clock. Both of consultant class and the culture
Speaker 1: of mainstream media kind of undermine our to make ideological
Speaker 1: arguments and ideological campaigns. The right wing is kind of
Speaker 1: tagging over that space, and the consultant class says, well,
Speaker 1: let's let their own ideology beat them. Let's not go
Speaker 1: ideology for ideology. And I kind of get that, and frankly,
Speaker 1: it may be on a case by case basis. We
Speaker 1: looked at the numbers of these mid terms and looking
Speaker 1: at what Biden did in twenty twenty. If everybody does
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do, then everything should be good.
Speaker 1: So no one wants to say anything. For example, we
Speaker 1: got HR forty, we got two seventeen votes. Nobody wants
Speaker 1: to bring that up. Now I don't agree with this,
Speaker 1: but because I'm for reparations and I'm not objective, but
Speaker 1: I do get it. You don't want to do something
Speaker 1: anything that might risk knocking off for dis gouraging a
Speaker 1: couple of hundred voters. You gotta get the black electorate,
Speaker 1: you gotta get the suburban, college educated white women. Those
Speaker 1: are those are the ones that are going to be
Speaker 1: the margin of victory in this and suburban college educated
Speaker 1: white women are tough. So I get that. I don't
Speaker 1: know when and how we do the ideology, but they're
Speaker 1: good at the ideology because they have their own exclusive
Speaker 1: ideological networks. We don't. And everybody who's saying then MSNBC,
Speaker 1: is this the progressive or the liberal equivalent of factify
Speaker 1: across was fired now and what's canceled wasn't renew with
Speaker 1: everyone what Jimmy, she was fired? But but so that
Speaker 1: says something we don't have that, And everyone in this
Speaker 1: medium market is competing for the right wing audience, which
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense either because right wing audience does not
Speaker 1: turn off Fox. It does not turn off a way
Speaker 1: in to go turn on CNN or MSNBC or nothing else.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't do that. So you're fighting it at
Speaker 1: audience and it's not there. Now the advertisers want some
Speaker 1: evidence that you're trying so they can put ads on
Speaker 1: there and that's what pays your revenue. So the way
Speaker 1: that system is even set up, it leaves no room
Speaker 1: for us. So we got to figure out how to build,
Speaker 1: you know, our own networks and have them be supported
Speaker 1: by the viewers who watch them, if that's what we want.
Speaker 1: So I get it. It's hard to do the ideological piece,
Speaker 1: but you know, the hope is what the consultants hope.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't like I'm not crazy about consultants,
Speaker 1: but this may be the only play we have right now.
Speaker 1: If you're defending your seats, let there it. Let them
Speaker 1: or was it that was in Marx or Lennon who
Speaker 1: said capitalists will be hung by the their rope he
Speaker 1: sells you let them, Yeah, let them go down, And
Speaker 1: someone fact checking me on that because I think it
Speaker 1: was Mark so minute. But let them. I'll switch that
Speaker 1: over for the idiologus. Let them go down on their
Speaker 1: own ideology, let them do the crazy stuff and we
Speaker 1: look sane on this side. I think that's the strategy.
Speaker 1: It will see if it we'll see if it works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So last thoughts, Mark, You know, on democracy, we have
Speaker 1: been living through a really I don't even know the
Speaker 1: word for it anymore, because difficult doesn't sum it up,
Speaker 1: Trying doesn't begin to make the case. But since twenty sixteen, right,
Speaker 1: we have been living through political mayhem, uncertainty, and instability,
Speaker 1: and I don't What I want people to understand is
Speaker 1: that voting absolutely one hundred percent matters, but thinking that
Speaker 1: one election is going to save you is the problem.
Speaker 1: And so when we are looking at the grand scheme
Speaker 1: of things, and where I have found myself mark in particular,
Speaker 1: ism is talking about what's the word abolitionism, I think
Speaker 1: about abolitionists, and I think about this call this idea,
Speaker 1: this grand idea, that you're going to end a centuries
Speaker 1: old lucrative right process of trading humans, of human trafficking,
Speaker 1: and that you're going to end this and somehow like
Speaker 1: you believe that you may not see it, but this
Speaker 1: is what you're working towards. This is the mind shift
Speaker 1: that I have been making, right that it isn't about
Speaker 1: you know me, and I have to remove my ego
Speaker 1: from it. And what I want to see it is
Speaker 1: the fact that what we are building for is a
Speaker 1: future that we may never see, right, but we're building
Speaker 1: regardless and so just your thoughts on democracy, on what
Speaker 1: we're fighting for and what is what began really in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen in Earnest is going to be a decades
Speaker 1: maybe centuries long project. And I wanted to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on where you will find yourself post election. Well,
Speaker 1: if we lose bray Fami in the hospital, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know that's going to be first of all. If
Speaker 1: we lose, Yeah, folks to have stepped up. I mean
Speaker 1: we're going to have to be even more in the
Speaker 1: fight because we know we're gonna be fight every day.
Speaker 1: We're going to fight either way. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we've got to build rebuild a movement really that is
Speaker 1: really focused, that is in the streets and it's not
Speaker 1: exclusively dependent codependent on social media and so you know,
Speaker 1: but it always happens we get to this point, we
Speaker 1: rushing to get everybody out to vote, and then you know,
Speaker 1: tomorrow everybody's exhausted rather than ready to get it right
Speaker 1: back out and get at it again. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what we have to do. I think we have
Speaker 1: to understand that this is going to be full time struggle.
Speaker 1: Our enemies have not stopped. They spent fifty years. They
Speaker 1: never gave ye their time fifty years trying, yep, and
Speaker 1: they did it. Yeah, and they did it. So we've
Speaker 1: got to get over our movement ADHD that we all have.
Speaker 1: And I say that defending about it. I'm saying all
Speaker 1: of us have that. You know, we can't No, No,
Speaker 1: we gotta get to that, get treated for it, and
Speaker 1: get out here and and and stay in this fight
Speaker 1: and not be discouraged. That's what we have to do.
Speaker 1: And folks support independent thinkers, talkers, journalists like Danielle and me.
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that shameless of the others of
Speaker 1: us out here. Yeah, because you're not gonna get the
Speaker 1: mobilization you need um from Twitter anymore. No, You've never
Speaker 1: gotten in from Facebook, Instagram and TikTok are all fun,
Speaker 1: you know. TikTok maybe for the younger people and me.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm on TikTok. I'm as popular as a
Speaker 1: young person on TikTok and I know, but you're not
Speaker 1: as popular as I am with the young people. I'm
Speaker 1: often mistaken for a gen zar Oh often is right,
Speaker 1: Okay often often so. Um, that's what we gotta do,
Speaker 1: And folks, it's Danielle's birthday. It's my birthday, it's my
Speaker 1: birthday week, it was my birthday in a couple of days. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm thirsdayday, Thursday. How would you say you were? Don't
Speaker 1: don't you worry about how old I am? Sir, I'm
Speaker 1: old enough, said you said, earl, I'm old. I'm old
Speaker 1: enough to vote. Let let me You said it, you
Speaker 1: said it earlier in the show. I just wanted you
Speaker 1: to repeat it. What did you say when I said,
Speaker 1: I said I'm old enough to vote? And I said,
Speaker 1: mind your business. That's what I said. I'm um, bless
Speaker 1: a heart. So let's give her Queen Danielle, whom we
Speaker 1: all love, and the door. Let's give her a happy birthday.
Speaker 1: And even if you voted, don't check out. Call somebody
Speaker 1: another matter of fact, I'm gonna do this daily coach
Speaker 1: dot com slash gootv right now. That's the most comprehensive
Speaker 1: place to go and see where you can still vone
Speaker 1: phone bank from where you are this morning, if you
Speaker 1: sit around, if you want to just get go on that,
Speaker 1: pick a sheet, make some calls day of voting, calls
Speaker 1: to get people out because some of these races literally,
Speaker 1: we can't be we can't be crazy about this, y'all.
Speaker 1: The's not gonna be a big margin. Folks are gonna
Speaker 1: win a lose in some of these places about like
Speaker 1: fifty votes. Yepe calls. Yes, you can Daily Coach dot
Speaker 1: com slash Geo TV, And I'm just saying it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love Daily Coach. I'm just saying it plugged in
Speaker 1: the other But off the top of my head, that's
Speaker 1: the resources where everybody's stuff is up there, comprehensive. They
Speaker 1: work real hard on that. Make some calls. Um, if
Speaker 1: there's if there's not a big contest in your state,
Speaker 1: every every state is an ass contested every jurisdiction. You
Speaker 1: can vote locally too, We will not. We can only
Speaker 1: reform the police locally. We can only reform election boards locally.
Speaker 1: We can only reform school boards locally. We can only
Speaker 1: fight back against the Dobs decision in the state House
Speaker 1: for now. Yes, ye haven't saying that. Step Daniel sometimes
Speaker 1: like they you know, and they, oh, you're so brilliant.
Speaker 1: It's not not brilliant. That's not brilliants comments. What y'all
Speaker 1: think about that's not brilliant. Come on now, Isn't that
Speaker 1: that I'm brilliant is that we have become so lex
Speaker 1: and we believe that the only thing to vote for
Speaker 1: is the president. Where did that come from? I have
Speaker 1: no idea. Well, I mean, it's it's kind of cold celebrity.
Speaker 1: The analogy I'll draw living in Washington, DC for years,
Speaker 1: people on the DC ballot who vote the DC voter start,
Speaker 1: the only thing to vote for was married Barrett because
Speaker 1: he was at the top. He was a mayor and
Speaker 1: he was he was he was a large personality. Broack
Speaker 1: Obama a large person So this the only thing I
Speaker 1: need to vote for. New you to vote for all
Speaker 1: these other things and not just the Senate, not just
Speaker 1: the House, racism, school board, city council, the the the
Speaker 1: the fight in the curriculum and the CRT that school
Speaker 1: boy to vote, the election, the redistricting, state house election boards,
Speaker 1: and the police that city council met. We could, we could,
Speaker 1: We could reform the police in all these cities. I
Speaker 1: know it if we would, but vote and organize locally.
Speaker 1: A mum. Well, Robert Mark Thompson, As always, we appreciate
Speaker 1: you and your It doesn't make much sense. There ought
Speaker 1: to be a law against what anyone who takes a
Speaker 1: fans at a day in your celebration. Happy birthday, dan
Speaker 1: YEA happy birthday, dan yea happy birthday. I love the
Speaker 1: Black extended vers Birthday, Happy birthday, Hey birthday, National Holiday.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you friends so much. And I pray
Speaker 1: that we see you on the other side of this
Speaker 1: and you know and that and that all is well
Speaker 1: ish is what I will say. But that will the
Speaker 1: fight will continue regardless. Well, if it looks like to
Speaker 1: night things and going bad, y'all might want to just
Speaker 1: put me on suicide watch to somebody and check on me.
Speaker 1: I will check on you. Calling for help, I'm saying
Speaker 1: right now, put me check on me. Y'll check on
Speaker 1: your boy. I will check on you. Thank you friend,
Speaker 1: appreciate you, Happy birthday, Thank you. And finally I will
Speaker 1: say this. My birthday is Thursday, November tenth. I am
Speaker 1: praying that for the present that I receive on that
Speaker 1: day or by the end of this week is going
Speaker 1: to be that our democracy lives to fight another day.
Speaker 1: But again I will say that, regardless of this outcome,
Speaker 1: I have dedicated my life, my life's work, to lifting consciousness,
Speaker 1: to empowering people to their responsibility and activating people into
Speaker 1: taking action over their own lives and the lives of
Speaker 1: those that they love. So I will continue regardless, but
Speaker 1: my wish for this birthday, for this year is that
Speaker 1: we have had enough of the scare to wake people
Speaker 1: up to recognize that democracy is not something that is
Speaker 1: a passive exercise, but one that requires vigilance, consistent vigilance.
Speaker 1: That is it for me today, Dear friends on wokeay
Speaker 1: f as always, Power to the people and to all
Speaker 1: the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.
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