WEBVTT - Get Out the Vote 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.440 Good morning, peep Sena. Welcome to willkay F Daily with 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:20.000 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.920 today is the day. Today is the final day to 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:28.760 be able to vote for our futures. It is election day, 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:33.159 and I am really grateful to be joined in conversation 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.120 with my friend the Reverend Mark Thompson and host of 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:41.680 Make It Plain. Mark and I've been in conversation counting 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:47.159 down this midterm election for the last several months. And 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.600 you know what I will say, folks, is regardless of 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.160 the outcome, right, because you're going to be listening to 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.720 this in the morning, and as of this recording, I 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:00.560 have no idea what will transpire. But what I do 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.440 know is this, we need to start looking at elections 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.399 if in fact we're able to advance with our democracy 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:11.200 and continue to have free and fair elections as layers 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:15.200 of a cake. They are not one and done. One 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.640 election alone does not save us, right. They need to 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.880 layer on top of each other, right, because when you 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.160 have that longevity, when you have that pipeline, when you 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:34.160 have that reservoir right of hopefulness of values, that is 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:38.720 what advances our society. That is what moves us towards progress. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:43.040 One election alone, isn't it. And that's what we need 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.440 to understand and wrap our minds around. And I'm not 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.000 talking just about the federal level, folks. I need everybody 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.040 to be turning up for your school board elections, for 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.600 your city council elections, for your state board elections, for 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.320 your medical board elections in the same way that you 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.960 turn not for the presidential election. Because if there is 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.720 nothing else that we have seen over the last several years, 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:10.440 is that the more localized, right, folks, are the ones 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.080 that really have control. And that if you do not 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.720 ever show up at your school board and think that 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.320 you know, oh, because I don't have kids, it doesn't matter. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:25.000 This is your future workforce, right or your future problem. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.840 So it matters what young people are being taught, whether 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.600 or not you have kids. It matters who is representing 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.000 you in the city council. It matters who is fighting 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.320 for you as mayor. It matters right who your electeds 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.880 are and whether or not they share the same values 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.160 and vision for the future that you do. And it 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.679 isn't just enough for us to be one and done right. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.880 You don't brush your teeth on Monday and then not 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.720 again until the end of the week, right, because that 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:58.280 would one be nasty and two because it's not good hygiene. Well, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.799 we need to have better political hygiene, right. We need 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.680 to take care of our politics in the way that 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.399 we should be taking care of our teeth and our bodies, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.200 which is that we don't neglect when we're in pain, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.919 we don't neglect when things go wrong, because guess what, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:21.800 those ailments overlooked turned into much bigger problems, which is 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.799 where we are right now with American democracy. And so 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.160 I say this to folks not as a way for 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.200 us to just throw up our hands and say, well, 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.480 nothing can be done. I say that the work is 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.000 never done, and that we need to be able to 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.280 get to a place to remove our own egos from 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.720 what it is that we want to see transformed in 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.800 our lifetime and start thinking like the abolitionists, start fighting 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.080 for a future that we may never be a part of, 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:51.440 but what we do now matters to that future. Think 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.360 about abolitionists and formerly enslave that we're fighting against a 0:03:55.440 --> 0:04:00.040 system that was centuries old, that was built into the 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:05.120 very fabric, the foundation, the soil laced with blood of 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:10.480 the enslaved to build this country, and it was inside 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.760 of folks's imaginations, both free and enslaved, that said we 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:19.960 can dream and fight for another day. So I need 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:25.280 for us to embody the spirit of our ancestors in 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:31.320 that way, right, and not for everything to be about 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:35.920 our own immediate gratification and our own sense of ease. 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:42.640 We are fighting now for the future, and that's what 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.600 we need to understand with each and every passing election 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.279 and all of the time that transpires in between. So 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:55.159 coming up next, friends, my conversation with our good good friend, 0:04:55.360 --> 0:05:01.040 the Reverend Mark Thompson of Make It Plain. Hey there, 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.320 I want to tell you about another podcast I think 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.160 you'll love. 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Folks. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.320 So you know that whenever we have the opportunity once 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.599 a month to speak with our good, good friend, the 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.360 Reverend Mark Thompson and host of Make It Plain, I 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.240 am overjoyed and by the comments that I get from 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:48.520 all of you about Mark's feedback and analytics, I know 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.760 that you all look forward to it as well. It 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:55.440 is election day, dear friends, which we talk about as 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.680 the final day to vote, but not the day that 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.480 you should be tapping in and so Mark, before we 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.320 dig into where we are in our democracy and what 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.880 is going to be needed moving forward, I just want 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.920 to take your temperature and see you know, how are 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.160 you feeling on this day and how have you been 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.800 feeling with regard to to to where we find ourselves 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:26.280 right now? Well, always good when our shows can join together, Danielle, 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.120 and it's a pleasure always to be with you. I'm 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:34.240 a little a little nervous, but optimistic. Honestly, I think 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:39.880 the mooved on our side is motivated. How I don't 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:41.760 know where they out to compensate for all the little tricks. 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:47.240 They may have a plan or anything else. What I 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.760 what I am kind of riled up about is how 0:06:52.000 --> 0:07:00.320 the mainstream media has been reporting that Republicans are are 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:06.680 surging or doing better, and those are some outlier poles 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.640 that are saying that that's not necessarily true. That is discouraging. 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.000 It shouldn't be, but at times that's discouraging to those 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.440 of us who haven't tapped in yet, to use your phraseology, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.480 And it's very disappointing to me that that's happening again, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.240 that even enjoy read has talked about it. You know, 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:27.960 why are you all pushing this narrative of impending or 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.080 imminent loss on the part of the Democrats. That's not clear. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:37.080 That's not something that is guaranteed. You know. Also, it 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:43.000 strikes me as quite conspicuous that a major network would 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:50.120 be forced to cancel a black woman show, a show 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.880 that would have most likely mobilized even more people's supposed 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.440 on the weekend before the election. We're talking about Tiffany 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:02.400 Cross And I'm also at a loss to understand how 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.160 another network can bring that kind of pressure to bear 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.840 on another network, because that's where it's coming from. It 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.280 came from the outside. It's Tucker Carlson is Fox, and 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:18.920 they targeted her because she was pushing back against Tucker 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:24.160 Carlson and others. I pray that they don't come for joy, 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.040 but they've always come to joy. But I pray that 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.440 the powers to be wants to come and get rid 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.360 of her. But be that asn't make that stands out. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.760 So when you said, you know, when we talk about Twitter, 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:44.880 what's happening on social media's appalling. Twitter probably needs to die, Yeah, frankly, yeah, 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.480 and it probably will, yep. But I don't think a 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.480 lot of us contemplated what would be the consequences if 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.520 we no longer had their social media because we wanted 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.640 to build on yes, which I mean, we're trying to 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.800 do something fan base. I get that, but you know, 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.720 we all still want to be over to others with 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:05.400 the other with the white social media companies, because you know, 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.959 to us that ice is cold. That's a whole other conversation. 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.240 So it's a lot going on. I do think the 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.920 and I don't support Kanye at all. Kanye is is 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.880 not a loss to me. We should have been done 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.240 with Kanye when he said slavery was a choice, and 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.320 then white Lives Matter, and then he's saying George Floyd 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:32.640 wasn't really kill about the police. There's that the piece 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:40.280 with Kyrie, which is hidden folk differently. Obviously, Kyrie probably 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.160 should have vetted that movie a little bit more closely. 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:47.680 There are issues with that movie. It is not false 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.480 to say, and I've never heard anybody get in trouble 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.360 for saying the original Hebrews were Africa. I've never seen 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.360 a controversy to come out of that. But there are 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.000 other things in the movie. Allegedly there's Holocaust denial and 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.480 all that kind of stuff. You gotta vet that stuff. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.720 But what that does, though, is in this moment, that's 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:06.280 not a Quinkie day. It's it's a been demoralizing to 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.360 us and it's a distraction. So people call me young, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.520 especially young people because they're not used to this. We 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.040 like Kyrie, I said, we'll go vote anyway, just like 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.160 you got to compartmentalize. Don't let that distract you discourage 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.800 you from voting. So, I mean, these things are taking place, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.440 but in spite of that, I think women are showing 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.480 up in numbers doing the right thing. Young people are 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.840 showing up in numbers doing the right thing. It'd be 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.360 really great if Stacey could win. Yeah, they're saying that's 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.360 not likely, but again that's the hit job set. Kanye's 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:43.840 is the real tangible, problematic individual, problematic musician or rapp 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.760 or whatever he is, is killer Mike because he's not there, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:53.120 you know, having people in Georgia not vote for Stacey. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.120 He's run around taking pictures with Brian Kemp. But what 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.160 is that about, you know? And that's that's Kanye is 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.480 not necessarily affecting a race right now. This is this 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.760 is something today they will be voted upon. So I mean, 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.040 all those things are taking place. I may not sound 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:12.400 as optimistic, but I still am. I'm still prayerful. I'm 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.960 still kind of hoping that this country's gonna show what 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:17.480 it really is. But if it doesn't, if it shows, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.640 it's going the other way, and then we know what 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.360 we're facing. You know, I want to talk a bit 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.920 more unpack where you're getting your optimism from, because in 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.040 all of the things that you have laid out, you know, 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.440 I agree wholeheartedly with all of them. I believe in 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:38.000 the same way that Kanye West, Kyrie Irving in the 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:42.120 NBA and you know her herschel Walker. I think that 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:47.439 they're all planted distractions for the black community. I think 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:51.600 that what I believe it is Reverend Jamal Bryant, who 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:56.840 went viral last week, whose video takedown of herschel Walker 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:02.760 I shared on my social media, where he said essentially 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.800 that the Republicans think very little of us as black people. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.640 They think that we're stupid. They would think they think 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.960 that we will, as he had said, you know, follow 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.040 a man with a ball rather than a man with philosophy, right, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.120 with a football rather than a man with philosophy. And 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.080 that's what I think about when I see these kind 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.600 of white supremacis plants, which is what I will refer 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.720 to Kanye West, Kyrie Irving and herschel Walker as because 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:32.280 they are susceptible, right and have been led by and 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:38.920 have been you know, what's the word that I'm looking for, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:46.280 overwhelmed by the welcoming of whiteness, right, that has always 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.640 been where they have found their power. They believe that 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:55.080 being contrary, being contrarian, makes them somehow free thinkers. But 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.480 it's funny to me that you're thinking aligns with white 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.679 supremacy and that's what you think is free thinking. Um. 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:05.400 And so you know, I think that Republicans and the 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.839 white supremacist party think very little of black people. And 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.439 I know that we you Mark, and I think very 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.040 highly of black people, right, and black people I don't 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.360 believe will fall for the rope and dope. I believe 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.400 that the you know, killer mics of them all again, 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.640 they find power in aligning themselves with whiteness, you know. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.839 And and I have no idea why that is not 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.280 you know that it's not my bag. I don't care 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:33.400 to waste time trying to unpack them. It's about the 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.800 bag that it isn't Yeah, exactly right, right, It's about 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.440 it's about the money, um, and how they can feed 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.480 themselves rather than being concerned about how their community is 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:47.440 being fed um or being starved. Rather so I think 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:52.520 that you know, all those things being taken into consideration, though, Mark, 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.120 you know, what is it in this moment because I 0:13:56.160 --> 0:14:01.560 think that I go to a spiritual place, I go 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.719 to a prayerful place when I think that, you know, 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.560 it is always you know, darkest before the dawn. There 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:14.000 is something to the rising of the phoenix through the ashes. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.360 There is something of the pushing through of the lotus 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.840 flower through the mud, right like there is something to 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:27.840 those idioms, those examples that are provided throughout throughout throughout 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:33.640 history and so what is grounding I guess your hopefulness 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.800 in this moment, because I believe that regardless of the 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.800 outcome of this election, we have forever been changed as 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:45.840 a country. And so I'm curious as to how you 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.840 see your hopefulness and how you see the path forward, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.640 the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.920 things not seen. That's faith. So that ain't a lot 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.680 to go on. But that's just the faith I have. 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.960 But also thinks this as not King said, you still 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.760 have to believe in the common decency of human time. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.480 Most people are supposed to be good people and decent people. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:18.800 Looking at the alternative and everything that has happened, you 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.880 kind of you really just have to kind of believe. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:25.800 Folks aren't gonna let this go back again. People saw 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:34.000 January six, people saw the reckoning. People are seeing the idiocy. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.800 I shouldn't say that the tragedy of Herschel Walker because 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.320 as a part of me to feel sorry for Herschel. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:43.560 He's being exploited. He really Herschel's not well on a 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:49.720 number of levels levels, and he's being exploitted. So I 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.800 hope that people and see if our side just does 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:55.640 what it's supposed to do. We have more numbers than 0:15:55.640 --> 0:16:00.920 they do. Anyway, if two thirds of us, maybe half 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.960 of us, little over half, just do what we're supposed 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:10.240 to do and not become discouraged or just don't do anything, 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.680 just kind of blow it off. The problem with our 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.520 side is, and you know, I've talked about this before, 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.160 if we project we're doing well, right, then people on 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.840 our side, so we're good. I don't I don't have 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.400 to go that neanksgiving because we're good. If we say, 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.120 if it's said we're doing poorly or I'm demoralized, I'm 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:29.280 not going. I mean, we come up with a lot 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.240 of reasons not to do it, and we're still we 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:39.240 still have to build the kind of culture whereby voting 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:45.720 is second nature. It's got to be. It should be 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.200 the easiest thing to do. And in some ways it 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:52.000 is versus you know, being in a struggle three hundred 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.480 and sixty four the other days out of the year, 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:55.960 like you and I are, some people all they do 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.840 is go vote, and it's like it's all it's all 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.320 you gotta do, it's all you're gonna do. It's all 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.320 you want to do is just do that. Let's get 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.200 that done and don't wait and start it today out 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.040 some of y'all wake up this morning. Oh by the way, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.080 I forgot I got to go vote. Please God though 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:14.280 so but but I am. I'm hopeful, especially when it 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:19.160 comes to women with this Dab's decision. I don't see 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.080 how women can stay home. I don't see how women 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.560 can vote any other way but the right way. And 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:30.440 even young women and young people, because younger men now 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.239 think on our side, closer to the way women think, 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:38.160 because they want women to be protected. They believe in 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.639 women being protected and having bottled all time. Younger, this 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.000 younger generation man doesn't seem to be as threatened by 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:48.119 that as the older generation. So that's where that's where 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.479 mind comes from. And I just really hope people do 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.560 it today. It's it's there's only one right thing to do. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.199 This is the right thing to do. The rest of 0:17:55.200 --> 0:18:01.640 this is in it's not just right wing and racist, 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.680 see see, because what saying is Kanye is not the leader, 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.040 the world leader, or the world symbol of anti semitism. 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:14.119 Right that's coming from their side. And you notice, you know, 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.400 Trump and those people are anti Semitic, But people don't 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:22.880 make as much noise about them. So when you come 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:28.040 for Kanye or somebody one person that's that's low hanging fruit, 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.919 Let's hit Trump at the ballot box. Let's hit his 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.200 ilk at the ballot box. Then you're waging a struggle 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.879 because because the people who go and blow up the synagogue, 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.400 set fire to synagogues, they're coming out of his champ 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.960 ain't coming out of Black camp. Ye, Kanye, don't hand 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.359 no followers, ain't coming out of another people. It's coming 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:49.760 out of the Trump people, all right, And so vote 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.960 doesnting too. Is the sad thing about the whole Kanye 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.920 piece and anti Semitism thing. Seventy percent of Jewish people 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.640 Jewish voters and ninety percent of Black voters the same way. 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:04.400 We don't disagree on nothing. We don't really disagree on nothing. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.600 So you know, there's some people who, you know, have 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:12.200 a need to say that the route or the headquarters 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.840 the bastion of anti Semitism these days is in the 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:20.560 black community. I had, you know, hours with Tamika Mallory 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.960 during the Women's March and that whole kerfuffle, and a 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:30.639 rabbi said to us one night, asked the question, asked, 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:34.320 why does the African American community want to send our 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:39.679 people back to the Ovens who were like, who you talking? 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.080 There's no black person having a conversation like that anywhere 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:48.440 in the world, but somebody has decided to make you 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.800 believe that, so you can divide us. Black Foot, Wigham, 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.000 everyoneted to fight white people in the white supremacy, not 0:19:55.160 --> 0:20:02.440 specifically Jews. We see white, we don't see so you know, 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.440 but that's a devipe something actually say that. It was 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.800 shocking and gonna tell us where black people think it say, 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.520 you know, I ain't nobody blacking than me, and no nobody, 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.879 no nor more black people than me. Never been a 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.480 coms been in a conversation like that, never nothing like that, 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.520 it has ever happened. Um. But but the Trump ilk 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.119 and who they're connected to, even in Europe, these right 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.200 wing European books, they ready, they went, they want to 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.600 do the oven again and that's where the war needs 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.200 to be. So folks getting out today and not only 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.479 do that, calling people, you know, young people, you know, 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:42.240 driving some folks to the polls in your car. Because 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.120 this is and I'm will say this, it's gonna be tight. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.040 It's gonna be raised a thin. So we've got to 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:48.919 get as many people out as possible so we can 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:53.439 you know, uh, beat those margins. Get a behind the 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.480 scenes look at comedy centrals The Daily Show on Beyond 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.000 the Scenes, an original podcast from The Daily Show with 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.119 Trevor Noah. Week host Roy Wood Junior goes deeper with 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:05.679 the notable guests and experts from the Emmy Award winning series. Together, 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.840 they use comedy to tackle current topics from gentrification to 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:10.959 gun laws and take a closer look at how and 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.719 why these topics matter. Listen to Beyond the Scenes from 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.400 The Daily Show with Trevor Noah on the iHeartRadio app, 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.840 Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. New episodes 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:25.520 every Tuesday. Yeah. I think that it's important one to 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:31.040 recognize that the divisions that we see between marginalized groups 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:35.480 is purposeful. It is part of the largest strategy because 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:39.360 if we were to actually come together as a collective, 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:44.200 we outnumber right the right. And that's what I want, 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.560 you know what I believe mark in moving forward. And 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:52.840 you know, former Senator Doug Jones said this last week 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:56.040 when he was on cable news show. Former Senator out 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:59.399 of Alabama who got his seat in Alabama because of 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.399 black women in that state who said, We're not putting 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:08.000 a pedophile in office to represent us. So what he 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:12.439 said is that Democrats problem is that they want to 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:18.000 back candidates as opposed to hype up their ideology and 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:23.359 get people voters, the electorate to back a movement. Right 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.520 that it's always about, Oh, we'll go vote for Fetterman 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:32.080 in Pennsylvania, go vote you know, against Trump, Go vote 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.399 for Stacy Abrahams in Georgia. It is always about the 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:39.680 person as opposed to the long term policy and as 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:46.040 opposed to the ideology and the values of democracy right 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.960 and Democrats. And so I want to get your thoughts 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:53.040 on one his assertion there if that is the wrong 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:57.119 move that Democrats have been making, and in your mind, Mark, 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:00.320 as we turn the page on this mid term and 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.240 as of this recording, folks, again it's election day. We 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.480 don't know the results and probably will not know until 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:11.760 you know later in the week, how do you perceive 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:16.199 how do you envision us moving forward? Right to rally 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:21.760 people around the idea of democracy, Right to stop seeding 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:26.000 words like patriotism and freedom to the right who have 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:32.399 totally co opted it and also twisted it into a 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:36.080 different way and meaning, well, first of all, on that, 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.159 I think that's an accurate assessment. You don't hear a 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.720 lot about ideology. It is true some have said in 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:46.480 the punditry that Democrats are playing defense, and they are. 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.440 You're trying to hold the ball, You're trying to run 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:54.679 out the clock. Both of consultant class and the culture 0:23:54.680 --> 0:24:01.560 of mainstream media kind of undermine our to make ideological 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:06.520 arguments and ideological campaigns. The right wing is kind of 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:10.000 tagging over that space, and the consultant class says, well, 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:14.879 let's let their own ideology beat them. Let's not go 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:20.200 ideology for ideology. And I kind of get that, and frankly, 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:25.960 it may be on a case by case basis. We 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:31.560 looked at the numbers of these mid terms and looking 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:35.640 at what Biden did in twenty twenty. If everybody does 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.560 what they're supposed to do, then everything should be good. 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:42.639 So no one wants to say anything. For example, we 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:45.280 got HR forty, we got two seventeen votes. Nobody wants 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.479 to bring that up. Now I don't agree with this, 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.520 but because I'm for reparations and I'm not objective, but 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:55.120 I do get it. You don't want to do something 0:24:55.400 --> 0:25:00.600 anything that might risk knocking off for dis gouraging a 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.280 couple of hundred voters. You gotta get the black electorate, 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.400 you gotta get the suburban, college educated white women. Those 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.520 are those are the ones that are going to be 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.399 the margin of victory in this and suburban college educated 0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:17.359 white women are tough. So I get that. I don't 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:23.200 know when and how we do the ideology, but they're 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.120 good at the ideology because they have their own exclusive 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:32.720 ideological networks. We don't. And everybody who's saying then MSNBC, 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:36.640 is this the progressive or the liberal equivalent of factify 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:42.440 across was fired now and what's canceled wasn't renew with 0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.320 everyone what Jimmy, she was fired? But but so that 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.720 says something we don't have that, And everyone in this 0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:55.720