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Speaker 1: Good morning, peep Sena. Welcome to willkay F Daily with

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Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,

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Speaker 1: today is the day. Today is the final day to

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Speaker 1: be able to vote for our futures. It is election day,

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Speaker 1: and I am really grateful to be joined in conversation

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Speaker 1: with my friend the Reverend Mark Thompson and host of

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Speaker 1: Make It Plain. Mark and I've been in conversation counting

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Speaker 1: down this midterm election for the last several months. And

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Speaker 1: you know what I will say, folks, is regardless of

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Speaker 1: the outcome, right, because you're going to be listening to

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Speaker 1: this in the morning, and as of this recording, I

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Speaker 1: have no idea what will transpire. But what I do

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Speaker 1: know is this, we need to start looking at elections

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Speaker 1: if in fact we're able to advance with our democracy

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Speaker 1: and continue to have free and fair elections as layers

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Speaker 1: of a cake. They are not one and done. One

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Speaker 1: election alone does not save us, right. They need to

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Speaker 1: layer on top of each other, right, because when you

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Speaker 1: have that longevity, when you have that pipeline, when you

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Speaker 1: have that reservoir right of hopefulness of values, that is

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Speaker 1: what advances our society. That is what moves us towards progress.

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Speaker 1: One election alone, isn't it. And that's what we need

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Speaker 1: to understand and wrap our minds around. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking just about the federal level, folks. I need everybody

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Speaker 1: to be turning up for your school board elections, for

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Speaker 1: your city council elections, for your state board elections, for

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Speaker 1: turn not for the presidential election. Because if there is

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Speaker 1: nothing else that we have seen over the last several years,

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Speaker 1: is that the more localized, right, folks, are the ones

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Speaker 1: that really have control. And that if you do not

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Speaker 1: ever show up at your school board and think that

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Speaker 1: you know, oh, because I don't have kids, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: This is your future workforce, right or your future problem.

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Speaker 1: So it matters what young people are being taught, whether

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Speaker 1: or not you have kids. It matters who is representing

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Speaker 1: for you as mayor. It matters right who your electeds

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Speaker 1: are and whether or not they share the same values

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Speaker 1: and vision for the future that you do. And it

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Speaker 1: isn't just enough for us to be one and done right.

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Speaker 1: You don't brush your teeth on Monday and then not

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Speaker 1: again until the end of the week, right, because that

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Speaker 1: would one be nasty and two because it's not good hygiene. Well,

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Speaker 1: we need to have better political hygiene, right. We need

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Speaker 1: to take care of our politics in the way that

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Speaker 1: we should be taking care of our teeth and our bodies,

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Speaker 1: which is that we don't neglect when we're in pain,

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Speaker 1: we don't neglect when things go wrong, because guess what,

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Speaker 1: those ailments overlooked turned into much bigger problems, which is

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Speaker 1: where we are right now with American democracy. And so

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Speaker 1: I say this to folks not as a way for

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Speaker 1: us to just throw up our hands and say, well,

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Speaker 1: nothing can be done. I say that the work is

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Speaker 1: never done, and that we need to be able to

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Speaker 1: get to a place to remove our own egos from

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Speaker 1: what it is that we want to see transformed in

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Speaker 1: our lifetime and start thinking like the abolitionists, start fighting

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Speaker 1: for a future that we may never be a part of,

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Speaker 1: but what we do now matters to that future. Think

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Speaker 1: about abolitionists and formerly enslave that we're fighting against a

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Speaker 1: system that was centuries old, that was built into the

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Speaker 1: very fabric, the foundation, the soil laced with blood of

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Speaker 1: of folks's imaginations, both free and enslaved, that said we

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Speaker 1: can dream and fight for another day. So I need

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Speaker 1: for us to embody the spirit of our ancestors in

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Speaker 1: We are fighting now for the future, and that's what

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Speaker 1: we need to understand with each and every passing election

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Speaker 1: and all of the time that transpires in between. So

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Speaker 1: coming up next, friends, my conversation with our good good friend,

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Speaker 1: the Reverend Mark Thompson of Make It Plain. Hey there,

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Speaker 1: from reproductive justice to voting rights, to climate change and more.

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Speaker 1: Tune in every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts. Folks.

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Speaker 1: So you know that whenever we have the opportunity once

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Speaker 1: a month to speak with our good, good friend, the

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Speaker 1: Reverend Mark Thompson and host of Make It Plain, I

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Speaker 1: am overjoyed and by the comments that I get from

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Speaker 1: all of you about Mark's feedback and analytics, I know

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Speaker 1: that you all look forward to it as well. It

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Speaker 1: is election day, dear friends, which we talk about as

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Speaker 1: the final day to vote, but not the day that

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Speaker 1: you should be tapping in and so Mark, before we

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Speaker 1: to take your temperature and see you know, how are

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Speaker 1: you feeling on this day and how have you been

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Speaker 1: feeling with regard to to to where we find ourselves

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Speaker 1: right now? Well, always good when our shows can join together, Danielle,

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Speaker 1: and it's a pleasure always to be with you. I'm

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Speaker 1: a little a little nervous, but optimistic. Honestly, I think

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Speaker 1: know where they out to compensate for all the little tricks.

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Speaker 1: They may have a plan or anything else. What I

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be, but at times that's discouraging to those

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Speaker 1: And it's very disappointing to me that that's happening again,

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Speaker 1: why are you all pushing this narrative of impending or

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Speaker 1: imminent loss on the part of the Democrats. That's not clear.

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Speaker 1: That's not something that is guaranteed. You know. Also, it

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Speaker 1: strikes me as quite conspicuous that a major network would

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Speaker 1: that would have most likely mobilized even more people's supposed

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Speaker 1: So when you said, you know, when we talk about Twitter,

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Speaker 1: So it's a lot going on. I do think the

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Speaker 1: There are issues with that movie. It is not false

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Speaker 1: He's run around taking pictures with Brian Kemp. But what

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Speaker 1: It will see if it we'll see if it works. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So last thoughts, Mark, You know, on democracy, we have

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Speaker 1: been living through a really I don't even know the

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Speaker 1: word for it anymore, because difficult doesn't sum it up,

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Speaker 1: Trying doesn't begin to make the case. But since twenty sixteen, right,

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Speaker 1: we have been living through political mayhem, uncertainty, and instability,

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Speaker 1: and I don't What I want people to understand is

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Speaker 1: one election is going to save you is the problem.

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Speaker 1: And so when we are looking at the grand scheme

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Speaker 1: of things, and where I have found myself mark in particular,

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Speaker 1: ism is talking about what's the word abolitionism, I think

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Speaker 1: about abolitionists, and I think about this call this idea,

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Speaker 1: this grand idea, that you're going to end a centuries

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Speaker 1: old lucrative right process of trading humans, of human trafficking,

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Speaker 1: and that you're going to end this and somehow like

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Speaker 1: you believe that you may not see it, but this

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Speaker 1: is what you're working towards. This is the mind shift

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Speaker 1: that I have been making, right that it isn't about

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Speaker 1: you know me, and I have to remove my ego

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Speaker 1: from it. And what I want to see it is

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Speaker 1: the fact that what we are building for is a

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Speaker 1: future that we may never see, right, but we're building

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Speaker 1: regardless and so just your thoughts on democracy, on what

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Speaker 1: we're fighting for and what is what began really in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen in Earnest is going to be a decades

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Speaker 1: maybe centuries long project. And I wanted to get your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on where you will find yourself post election. Well,

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Speaker 1: if we lose bray Fami in the hospital, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know that's going to be first of all. If

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Speaker 1: we lose, Yeah, folks to have stepped up. I mean

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Speaker 1: we're going to have to be even more in the

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Speaker 1: fight because we know we're gonna be fight every day.

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Speaker 1: We're going to fight either way. But yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've got to build rebuild a movement really that is

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Speaker 1: really focused, that is in the streets and it's not

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Speaker 1: exclusively dependent codependent on social media and so you know,

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Speaker 1: but it always happens we get to this point, we

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Speaker 1: rushing to get everybody out to vote, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: tomorrow everybody's exhausted rather than ready to get it right

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Speaker 1: back out and get at it again. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what we have to do. I think we have

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Speaker 1: to understand that this is going to be full time struggle.

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Speaker 1: Our enemies have not stopped. They spent fifty years. They

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Speaker 1: never gave ye their time fifty years trying, yep, and

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Speaker 1: they did it. Yeah, and they did it. So we've

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Speaker 1: got to get over our movement ADHD that we all have.

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Speaker 1: And I say that defending about it. I'm saying all

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Speaker 1: of us have that. You know, we can't No, No,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get to that, get treated for it, and

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Speaker 1: get out here and and and stay in this fight

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Speaker 1: and not be discouraged. That's what we have to do.

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Speaker 1: And folks support independent thinkers, talkers, journalists like Danielle and me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that shameless of the others of

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Speaker 1: us out here. Yeah, because you're not gonna get the

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Speaker 1: mobilization you need um from Twitter anymore. No, You've never

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Speaker 1: gotten in from Facebook, Instagram and TikTok are all fun,

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Speaker 1: you know. TikTok maybe for the younger people and me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm on TikTok. I'm as popular as a

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Speaker 1: young person on TikTok and I know, but you're not

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Speaker 1: as popular as I am with the young people. I'm

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Speaker 1: often mistaken for a gen zar Oh often is right,

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Speaker 1: Okay often often so. Um, that's what we gotta do,

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Speaker 1: And folks, it's Danielle's birthday. It's my birthday, it's my

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Speaker 1: birthday week, it was my birthday in a couple of days. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm thirsdayday, Thursday. How would you say you were? Don't

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Speaker 1: don't you worry about how old I am? Sir, I'm

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Speaker 1: old enough, said you said, earl, I'm old. I'm old

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Speaker 1: enough to vote. Let let me You said it, you

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Speaker 1: said it earlier in the show. I just wanted you

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Speaker 1: to repeat it. What did you say when I said,

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Speaker 1: I said I'm old enough to vote? And I said,

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Speaker 1: mind your business. That's what I said. I'm um, bless

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Speaker 1: a heart. So let's give her Queen Danielle, whom we

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Speaker 1: all love, and the door. Let's give her a happy birthday.

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Speaker 1: And even if you voted, don't check out. Call somebody

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Speaker 1: another matter of fact, I'm gonna do this daily coach

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Speaker 1: dot com slash gootv right now. That's the most comprehensive

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Speaker 1: place to go and see where you can still vone

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Speaker 1: phone bank from where you are this morning, if you

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Speaker 1: sit around, if you want to just get go on that,

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Speaker 1: pick a sheet, make some calls day of voting, calls

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Speaker 1: to get people out because some of these races literally,

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Speaker 1: we can't be we can't be crazy about this, y'all.

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Speaker 1: The's not gonna be a big margin. Folks are gonna

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Speaker 1: win a lose in some of these places about like

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Speaker 1: fifty votes. Yepe calls. Yes, you can Daily Coach dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Geo TV, And I'm just saying it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love Daily Coach. I'm just saying it plugged in

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Speaker 1: the other But off the top of my head, that's

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Speaker 1: the resources where everybody's stuff is up there, comprehensive. They

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Speaker 1: work real hard on that. Make some calls. Um, if

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Speaker 1: there's if there's not a big contest in your state,

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Speaker 1: every every state is an ass contested every jurisdiction. You

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Speaker 1: can vote locally too, We will not. We can only

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Speaker 1: reform the police locally. We can only reform election boards locally.

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Speaker 1: We can only reform school boards locally. We can only

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Speaker 1: fight back against the Dobs decision in the state House

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Speaker 1: for now. Yes, ye haven't saying that. Step Daniel sometimes

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Speaker 1: like they you know, and they, oh, you're so brilliant.

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Speaker 1: It's not not brilliant. That's not brilliants comments. What y'all

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Speaker 1: think about that's not brilliant. Come on now, Isn't that

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Speaker 1: that I'm brilliant is that we have become so lex

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Speaker 1: and we believe that the only thing to vote for

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Speaker 1: is the president. Where did that come from? I have

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Speaker 1: no idea. Well, I mean, it's it's kind of cold celebrity.

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Speaker 1: The analogy I'll draw living in Washington, DC for years,

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Speaker 1: people on the DC ballot who vote the DC voter start,

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Speaker 1: the only thing to vote for was married Barrett because

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Speaker 1: he was at the top. He was a mayor and

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Speaker 1: he was he was he was a large personality. Broack

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Speaker 1: Obama a large person So this the only thing I

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Speaker 1: need to vote for. New you to vote for all

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Speaker 1: these other things and not just the Senate, not just

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Speaker 1: the House, racism, school board, city council, the the the

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Speaker 1: the fight in the curriculum and the CRT that school

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Speaker 1: boy to vote, the election, the redistricting, state house election boards,

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Speaker 1: and the police that city council met. We could, we could,

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Speaker 1: We could reform the police in all these cities. I

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Speaker 1: know it if we would, but vote and organize locally.

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Speaker 1: A mum. Well, Robert Mark Thompson, As always, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you and your It doesn't make much sense. There ought

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Speaker 1: to be a law against what anyone who takes a

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Speaker 1: fans at a day in your celebration. Happy birthday, dan

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Speaker 1: YEA happy birthday, dan yea happy birthday. I love the

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Speaker 1: Black extended vers Birthday, Happy birthday, Hey birthday, National Holiday.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you friends so much. And I pray

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Speaker 1: that we see you on the other side of this

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Speaker 1: and you know and that and that all is well

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Speaker 1: ish is what I will say. But that will the

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Speaker 1: fight will continue regardless. Well, if it looks like to

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Speaker 1: night things and going bad, y'all might want to just

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Speaker 1: put me on suicide watch to somebody and check on me.

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Speaker 1: I will check on you. Calling for help, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: right now, put me check on me. Y'll check on

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Speaker 1: your boy. I will check on you. Thank you friend,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, Happy birthday, Thank you. And finally I will

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Speaker 1: say this. My birthday is Thursday, November tenth. I am

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Speaker 1: praying that for the present that I receive on that

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Speaker 1: day or by the end of this week is going

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Speaker 1: to be that our democracy lives to fight another day.

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Speaker 1: But again I will say that, regardless of this outcome,

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Speaker 1: I have dedicated my life, my life's work, to lifting consciousness,

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Speaker 1: to empowering people to their responsibility and activating people into

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Speaker 1: taking action over their own lives and the lives of

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Speaker 1: those that they love. So I will continue regardless, but

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Speaker 1: my wish for this birthday, for this year is that

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Speaker 1: we have had enough of the scare to wake people

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Speaker 1: up to recognize that democracy is not something that is

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Speaker 1: a passive exercise, but one that requires vigilance, consistent vigilance.

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Speaker 1: That is it for me today, Dear friends on wokeay

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Speaker 1: f as always, Power to the people and to all

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Speaker 1: the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.

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