1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Watson with a keeper. Whenever that zero fifteen yard touchdown 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: run for the Shawn Watson. There is no off season. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: What t cat for your abuse to Texans game day 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: is every day, starting three and winning the division. It's 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: a monumental achievement and now we have to build on it. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Five nights a week. They hits keep on coming. Watch 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: come up a sack? Oh my goodness. No. From inside 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: NRG Stadium, it's Texans All Excess. What is up? Everybody? 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Welcome in to a Tuesday edition of Texas All Access. 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Have to remind myself it is only Tuesday, because typically 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: I'm here on Wednesday, but it is a Tuesday evening, 12 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: right in the middle of free agency tampering, legal tampering period. 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: And I'm jack to be with you tonight. It was 14 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: good listening to Waite Smith talk with Plinn Sterner and 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: all Glant the previous the previous few hours they did. 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: I thought a great job breaking things down and I 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: will try and continue that. I am your host, John Harris, 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: football analyst and sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, and 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: we have got a special guest in the next segment 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: has to do with the news that came down early 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: this morning. We walked out of the studio yesterday. When 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: Deep City and I walked out of the studio yesterday, 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: what we knew at the time was that Kevin Johnson 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: was signing with the Buffalo Bills, and that Tyrn Matthew 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: was going to sign and will sign tomorrow with the 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. That's what we knew. A little later 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: that night, I want to say it was a little 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: bit later that night Kareem Jackson agreed to a deal 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos. Now, it's been very interesting to 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: watch that unfold because I followed somebody from every team 31 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: in the league. For some reason, I follow a couple 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: to three people from Denver. I don't know why it's Denver, 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: but I just followed two three people from Never and 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: they keep saying cornerback, cornerback, cornerback, cornerback, And I'm like, 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: hold up, y'all, y'all gonna be in a world a 36 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: heard if you're thinking about putting Kareem at corner that's 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: not where he belongs. I thought where he wants to be. 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: He's a safety, but they're paying him like a corner. 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: Then again, the way the safety market has gone. Maybe 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: they're paying him like a safety. So that all happened 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: before I eventually put my head down on a pillow 42 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: about one in the morning, hoping wondering what was gonna 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: happen with the Texans. Now, I said yesterday and I 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: actually called a buddy amount of the way home and 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, this entacy, this free agency period is 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: it's equal parts frustrating and exhilarating all at the same time. 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: It's exhilarating because you see where players are going and 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: you start, oh, this, players going here, and it's kind 49 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: of fun to watch all that happen. But when you 50 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: really think about it, you build this thing through the draft. 51 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: That's what you have to do. But you can't go 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: into a season and go, well, we'll just go get 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: three corners in the draft, or we'll just go get 54 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: too offensive tackles in the draft. Now, there might be 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: situations where you might have to and this might be 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: one of them, just based on what is out on 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: the market. But Kevin Johnson Buffalo, Tyron Matthew Kansas City, 58 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: and now Kareem Jackson out to Denver. So that's three 59 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: defensive backs out the door. Now, I know, hearing from 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: a lot of you and reading what a lot of 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: you have to say, a lot of you are like 62 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: you weren't totally concerned about who it was, but you 63 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: were concerned that it was numbers. You were concerned that 64 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: it was Tyran, or that it was Kareem, or that 65 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: was Kevin. You were concerned the fact that it was 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: three defensive backs. What are you gonna do? Well, woke 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: up in the morning, what'd you see? Texans came to 68 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: an agreement with safety. To Sean Gibson, and it's not Tayshawn, 69 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: it's to Shun. To make sure we're clear on that. 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: To Sean Gibson, got it. He is from Dallas. So 71 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna let that slide because he's gonna 72 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: come in here and hopefully take over one of the 73 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: safety spots and do a really good job. He steps 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: in his deal three years, twenty two million dollars. Now 75 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: this whole thing comes down to value management. Value management. 76 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: Now you know how, And I've been saying this for months. 77 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: I want to Tyron Matthew to come back. I love 78 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: the Badger, I love everything about him. He's costing the 79 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs fourteen million dollars a year, and good 80 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: for him. He deserves every every dollar. He deserves it. 81 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: But you're gonna get to Sean Gibson, who covers the listen. 82 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I got I got a piece going up on Houston 83 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: Texas dot com and I got one acts one piece 84 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: of video of Gibson one on one against Gronkowski. So 85 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: in two games against Gronkowski AFC Championship game in twenty 86 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: eighteen Week two, how many catches did Gronk have that 87 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: in those two games? Now, the first one, the ANFC 88 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Championship game was really only a half because he had 89 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: he got dinged. I think it was Barry Church actually 90 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: who drilled him right before the half. I think that 91 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: was him. So he only played a half. But in 92 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: the game and a half against the Jags, he had 93 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: three total catches. Did not catch one on Gibson. He 94 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: caught a flat rout in his own and he caught 95 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: another one on I think it was Ronnie Harrison, the 96 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: other safety. He did not catch one on Gibson. Match 97 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: up one on one, shut Gronk down. Zach Ertz London 98 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: four catches twenty six yards against Gibson to the Jaguars did. 99 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: What did zach Ertz do against the Texans in December 100 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia? He was ugly. Travis Kelsey did have five 101 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: for one hundred, but he had one forty yard catch 102 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: which was not on Gibson, and that really Kelsey was 103 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: the only one really to have success as at tight 104 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: end catching the football against the Jaguars. Now, obviously the 105 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: Texans will see well, maybe see Rock this year, I 106 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: don't know totally about that. They definitely will see Travis Kelsey, 107 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: so they're gonna see some good tight ends. They're gonna 108 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: see Eric Ebron. And that's one game I want to 109 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: go back and see the sixth nothing game against the 110 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: Colts where the Colts health to zero points after scoring 111 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: all kinds of touchdowns how many weeks in a row, 112 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: and then all of sudden they get into the Jackson, 113 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: the Jags shut him down. The Jags win with a 114 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: Cody Kessler's special six nothing. Eric Ebron in division gotta 115 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: stop him twice. John hu Smith in a division, gotta 116 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: stop him twice. And I think the Titans will add 117 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: a tight end to it. So those are gonna be 118 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: guys that to Sean Gibson is gonna have to go 119 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: ahead and cover. So at three years at twenty two 120 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: million dollars, roughly seven and a seven points three million 121 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: year on average, the Texans got a guy that can 122 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: go out and at a minimum, go cover tight end 123 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: at a minimum, go cover tight ends at a minimum, 124 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: and then as she has to talk to him, and 125 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna have that airy before you in the next segments. 126 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: He's not the biggest guy in the world now, not 127 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: on the field. He looks he looks good size. When 128 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: you meet him up closer, you're like, WHOA, he's not 129 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: that big. And I've seen Grock up close. I've seen 130 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: Kelsey up close, up Hurts up close. They all power 131 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: over him, and Gibson was able to be very successful 132 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: against those guys. He's a very physical safety and that 133 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: I think is going to be very very helpful against 134 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: those tight ends. Now, it doesn't mean he can't cover 135 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: other guys playing in the middle of the field. He's 136 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: allotted out against Jacksonville or with Jacksonville. His interception last 137 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: year was actually against the Chiefs, and I broke that 138 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: down on my football one on one. You have a 139 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: chance to see that. I think Gibson stepping in with 140 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Justin Reid, with Andre Howe. It's gonna make for a 141 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: nice three safety combination. And you'll hear it to Sean 142 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: say this as we talked. This is his eighth year 143 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Undrafted guy out of Wyoming. But one 144 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: of the things about Gibson that I thought was hugely important, 145 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: and I think this is gonna be something to keep 146 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: an eye on going forward. When Gibson was in college 147 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: at Wyoming with his brother, Gibson played corner the entire time. 148 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: He played three three years of corner, well three and 149 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: a half sorry, and then halfway through his senior year 150 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: there were some injuries at safety and that's when he 151 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: moved to safety. He's undrafted, he gets with Cleveland, He 152 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: ends up making the Pro Bowl with Cleveland in twenty fourteen. 153 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: He then goes to Jacksonville. Three years in Jacksonville, does 154 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: a really nice job for the Jacksonville Jaguars, but caught 155 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: in a cash in a cap casualties situation as the 156 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars had to clean house to get Nick Foles in, 157 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: so Gibson, Carlos Hi, Malie Jackson, a lot of good 158 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: football players had to be shown the door. And that 159 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: was to the Texans benefit. So again you go back 160 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: to the value situation. Even if you brought Kareem Jackson 161 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: back as a safety, Kareem's gonna be making eleven and 162 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: a half million on average at thirty one years old 163 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: and really hasn't played all that much safety. Now you're 164 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: getting a true bona fight safety and Gibson at like 165 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: seven point three million. Now you're gonna wait a second, town, 166 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: You got all this cap room. Why does it matter 167 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: that you're you're finding value because that's what it's all about. 168 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: Because it's about finding value. Because what's gonna happen in 169 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: a couple of years. You're gonna have to pay to 170 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson right now, You're gonna have to find a 171 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: way to get a long term deal done with Devian Clowney. 172 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: So you've got to be able to have that money 173 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: draft to develop your own but if you're able to 174 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: supplement what you have, and the Texas did that with 175 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: a guy like Zach Fulton last year. They did that, 176 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that was that was the perfect move. 177 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: They didn't break the bank for some offensive linement. They 178 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: find a really good offensive lineman and Zach Fulton. They 179 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: got them for good value. So that I think is 180 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: what they've done with Deshaun Gibson. A little later in 181 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: the day, just as I was about to finish all 182 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: of my work on Deshaun Gibson, news comes down and 183 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: this one is not made official yet. Texans did announce 184 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: the Deshaun Gibson signing earlier. Now they can do that, 185 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: beca huzz. Gibson had been a calf casualty with Jacksonville, 186 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: so because he had been released waived, he could sign immediately. 187 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: That's what Eric Weddell did. That's what Sean Gibson did. 188 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: News came down. The Texans are to add another corner 189 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: from the Denver Broncos in Ohio state. If you are 190 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: of Buckeye ILK, well, here you go, Bradley Roby. Now, 191 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: one thing I started thinking about with Robi is the 192 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: guys that the Texans will look at a corner. I 193 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: get asked us a lot. You know, what are they 194 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: gonna what are they gonna look like? Are they gonna 195 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: look like, uh, you know, Kareem Jjoe, like Sizewise, Kevin Johnson, 196 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. At the combine in twenty fourteen, 197 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: Bradley Roby at five eleven one ninety five ran a 198 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: four three nine. He had a short shuttle of four 199 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: point oh four and a three corner was upstanding of 200 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: six point seven four. He g had a vertical jump 201 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: of thirty eight and a half inches and a broad 202 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: jump at ten point ten feet four inches. He bets 203 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: fresh seventeen reps. Now five isn't the longest, rangiest kind 204 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: of guy. You know, Richard Sherman's a longer guy. There's 205 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: some other longer type athletes. But those are the kind 206 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: of mentions community start thinking about for corners that the 207 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Texans will end up drafting. And I would imagine they're 208 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: going to draft. I would imagine they're going to draft 209 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: the corner maybe two, maybe one early and maybe one late. 210 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: Maybe one they take a kind of a back of 211 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: the draft flyer on that they can add to the mix. 212 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: But Bradley Roby is a corner. You're not a safety. 213 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: He could be a nickel, he could move inside. But 214 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: to Sean Gibson's teammate, and we'll talk about Aaron Colvin 215 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: in a little bit, he's the guy you would think 216 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: is gonna end up being a nickel Robie could go 217 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: inside to the nickel. There's some things you could do, 218 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: but now you at least have a corner that you 219 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: throw into the mix. Bradley Roby, along with Jonathan Joseph Jamaine, 220 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: Kelly Johnson about Amosti and others, I still think one 221 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: more is either needed and that can come through free. 222 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: I think I did a fifth. I know I'm weird. 223 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: I did a fifty three man roster already, and I 224 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: think I have two spots, one for another free agent 225 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: and one for a rookie at corner, because yes, going 226 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: out getting free agents is great, and oh okay, you've 227 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: got some depth. And these guys who play in the 228 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: NFL and they got experience, and Bradley Roby's gonna ring 229 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos. Nothing replaces a young athletic corner 230 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: that could step up and cover anybody in this division. 231 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: So when we left you yesterday, Tyrn, Matthew, Kevin Johnson, 232 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson, they are moving on, moving in to Sean 233 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: Gibson at safety and Bradley Roby. The Robie deal apparently 234 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: as a one year, ten million dollar prove it deal. 235 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: You see the one year when you see guys are 236 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: getting one year deals. Those are prove it deals. That's 237 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: what Tyrn got last year. Tyrn got a one year, 238 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: seven million dollars deal, going to prove that he still 239 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: got it, and then he ends up banking money. And yes, 240 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: it's with the Kansas City Chiefs. But here's another aspect 241 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: to this, because the Texans went and made that one year, 242 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: seven million dollars deal. Basically what the Texans did, they 243 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: it was sort of aproved deal to them, but one 244 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: or two things was gonna happen. Either they were gonna 245 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: get Tyrn Matthew back, or if Tyrant hit like they 246 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: thought he was going to, they're gonna get a cop 247 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: pick for that. So in essence, they paid one year, 248 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: seven million dollars and more than likely they'll get a 249 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: third round comp pick. So they essentially got a third 250 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: rounder in twenty twenty for seven million dollars. Let's not 251 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: have bad. Let's not have bad, and maybe that's what 252 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: they do with Bradley Robie as well as well, So 253 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. Now on the other side, 254 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: let's get to meet to Sean Gibson. He sat down 255 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: with me in studio just a few minutes ago. He 256 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: went to Wyoming's so he understands the whole rodeo thing, 257 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: so we didn't feel out of place. He's from Dallas, 258 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: so he gets Texas. We talked a lot about the Texans, 259 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: the Jags. What he brings to the table. To Shaan Gibson, 260 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: the newest Texan with us exclusively next right here in 261 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Can't get enough Tixans Radio. We've got shows, 262 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: We've got podcast, We've got interviews. J Paul on Houston 263 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: Texans dot Com. Back to the show that keeps you 264 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: up to date on the Houston Texans Tisons old excess. 265 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: All right, this is gonna be a lot of fun. 266 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. It is a Tuesday night. 267 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: We're day two into the legal tampering period of free agency. 268 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: The new league year starts tomorrow. I'm your host, John Harris, 269 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: and I'm joined by the newest assignee of the Houston Texans, 270 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: Deshaun Gibson. To Shaun, welcome back to Texas, man. How's 271 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: that feel to be back in your home staying I 272 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: couldn't even describe, but the feeling just being back in 273 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: the state of Texas just awesome, amazing feeling right now. 274 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: And that's just one of the biggest things I take 275 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: away from this, man, is I take it for granted, man, 276 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: being able to be close to home, playing in front 277 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: of my family, and you know, you always got to understand, man, 278 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: football is such a big deal out here, and you know, 279 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: coming back in this environment, you really can't beat this. 280 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't have scripted my career to land and fall 281 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: on a better environment than it is right now. For 282 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: three years, we had a chance to watch you on 283 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: the other sideline, which is always kind of tough, especially 284 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: that opener in twenty seventeen. That was really tough because y'all, 285 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: y'all literally be trying to knock out everybody we had 286 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: on off at I mean, it was pretty clear y'all 287 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: were trying to do that. But as you watch from 288 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: the other sideline, what did you see with this organization 289 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: that made you want to be a part of it? 290 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: You know, I think that you know, you you always 291 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: understood the pieces that they had, and I think that 292 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: that moment last year, the last game here, the home 293 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: game playing here, obviously Houston was playing for you know, 294 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: home feel advantage, and you know, obviously he had a 295 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: shoe in but you just looked that. You've seen the 296 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: atmosphere in the environment. First of all, the atmosphere in 297 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: the stadium was insane, and the environment and just the 298 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: passion that those guys play with. I mean, like we 299 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: are highly paid professional athletes. Don't get me wrong. Everybody's 300 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: supposed to play, you know, each play like it said last. 301 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: But man, just just just the passion that they came 302 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: out man and playing against his team for two times 303 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: a year, and you understand what they have and who 304 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: they have. Man, you have a franchise quarterback over here, 305 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: you have the best receiver in the league in my 306 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: opinion and many other people opinions, and you just have 307 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: so many moving parts. Not to mention the defensive line, 308 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, because that speaks for itself. And it's just 309 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: one of the situations where when everything added up from 310 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: just everything outside of the football ram you look at, say, man, 311 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: the football part is easy. Man. There's so many great 312 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: guys in this locker room. Now I don't personally know yet, 313 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: but I'm excited to get to know. But from a 314 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: football standpoint, those guys no ball. Now we know that 315 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: you were part of one of the best defenses in 316 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: the league, no matter what the record was last year, 317 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: no matter what it wasn't seventeen year ago the ABC 318 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: Championship game. You're one of the best defenses in the league. 319 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: And you played with the gay J Boyer that we know, 320 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: but you played with some some bad dudes back there. 321 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: What was it? What was it like playing with that 322 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: defensive What did you learn playing with that? Man? Yeah, 323 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, first of all the original Jackson five, Aaron Covin, myself, 324 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: a J. Bouye, Buried Church and Jayden Ramsay. Of course, Man, 325 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: just just just that that that fire, that passion. Man, 326 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: it just when we were on it just was a fire. 327 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 1: And it's just a passage. You knew what it felt like. 328 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: You took to feel like you're not gonna compute the 329 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: pass on us, and if you do, it's probably gonna 330 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: be one or two. It's gonna be a long day 331 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: for you. You please call man every dawn because we 332 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: know that we got the guys. You ain't gonna beat us. 333 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: Your your three is not gonna beat all three. You're 334 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: four and won't beat all four. And I think just 335 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: that swagger and that was the biggest thing we were 336 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: going to board and we would talk about individual goals 337 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: each week, what we wanted to do, Man, And just 338 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that we took away from it that swagger. 339 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: We was just a bunch of guys who really and 340 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't understand and a lot of 341 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: people took that as being cocky and arrogant. Man. And 342 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: you know, we went out there, we talked about we 343 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: backed it up, Man, and that swagger it taught you know, 344 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: it really taught me for the first time, Man, how 345 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: to just go out there and play with that juice, 346 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: that swagger, Man, And uh, you know, we brought it 347 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Unfortunately, the record in truly equal the production 348 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: on what we were doing on the back end. But Man, 349 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: making no mistake a batter man, those guys and what 350 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: we did in Jacksonville, Man, was incredible watching you on film. 351 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different things that you can do. 352 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't know this, dating 353 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: back to your days back in Wyoming. I do a 354 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: lot of draft stuff. So going back to your days 355 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: of Wyoming, you play corner the entire time up until 356 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: your senior year, and then you moved over to safety 357 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: and the Obviously safety is where you made your home, 358 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: but you're asked to do a lot of covering h 359 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: in the league. And you did that for Cleveland, you 360 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: did it for Jacksonville, and you're gonna do it here. 361 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: And one of one of the positions you cover very 362 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: well as the tight end. And watching you against the 363 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: guy like Gronk and watching you against guy like Kelsey, 364 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: Now I've seen those guys up close. You're not their size, 365 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: of course not, but you get in there and you battle. 366 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: What's the key when you take on a tight end 367 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: of that ilk and you face them all? Last year 368 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: you faced Arts and Kelsey and did a really nice 369 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: job against those guys. What's the he and facing those 370 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: type guys and especially those that we're going to see 371 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: this year. Absolutely, I think that you know, first of all, 372 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: it just was a mindset that was instilled that you 373 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: know that one on one you have to win your 374 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: one on one matchups if you want to be successful 375 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: in this league. But you know, physicality, I think that 376 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: you know when the between the lines, you know a 377 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: guy might stand six five to sixty, but you really 378 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: don't have to outphysical men. Yeah, you might be more 379 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: physically imposing than I am. But when it comes down 380 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: to it, scroll man strength is grown man strength man, 381 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: and I think that that right there, I took pride 382 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: and I liked going against those bigger guys, you know, 383 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: those bigger, physical guys like Gronkowski, you know, because those 384 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: are the games that you you wanted to test your 385 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: manhood and say, Okay, this is a big, physical, imposing guy. 386 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Gronk is probably the strongest tight end I'd had to 387 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: go against, you know, and I went against some incredible 388 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: athletes at tight ends, and tight ends are evolved. I 389 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: think that the biggest thing is just the mindset going 390 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: in there, and you know, these tight ends, you're gonna 391 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: have to be physical with them. You win a physical 392 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: the physical matchup, because nine times out of team, you're 393 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: gonna lose the size matchup, the true physical matchup. These 394 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: tight ends are coming in that bigger and stronger than faster, 395 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, they again you seem at the combine goodness, 396 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: you know. So I think that they're getting bigger and 397 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: stronger and faster, and they're being used more and more 398 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: in these offenses, and you know, that's one of the 399 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: things that you know, if you can win the physical. 400 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: The game of football, man, is a man's game. So 401 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: long as you can be physical. Obviously there's other parts 402 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: I gotta go with it. You got still gotta be 403 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: able to run and be able to anticipate certain things. 404 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: But my biggest thing was you was gonna have to 405 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: truly beat me. And if he was gonna beat me, 406 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lone day for you because I'm 407 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: really gonna be chirping at you all day. And you 408 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: know that's the thing, man, Just the mindset that we had, 409 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: and it's just the mindset that I've always had, man, 410 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: Just that chip on my show to hot play with. 411 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: For people that haven't seen you unity they obviously we're 412 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: watching the Texans twice a year against the Jaguars, but 413 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: maybe there's some Texans fans that weren't paying attention to 414 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: what Jackson was doing or what Cleveland was doing. Of course, 415 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: what are you bringing to the party? And you talked 416 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: about swagger and you talking about toughness. What are you 417 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: bringing to the party for this defense? You know I 418 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: think that. But but besides, just like I said, the 419 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: swagger and a toughness, man, I know for a fact 420 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: that I am a playmaking the secondary I have been. 421 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: I've done it throughout my career consistently, and I think 422 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: that the biggest thing that I can bring is, man, 423 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: just you know, my ability to be able to adapt 424 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: to any system and go out there and make plays 425 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: and do what's acts to me. I'm not a guy 426 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: who whoo, who's willing to go rogue and trying to 427 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: make a player. I know my players would come to me, 428 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: and I understand that within a defense, when I have 429 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: my opportunities, I take my opportunities and h if anybody 430 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: want to turn on the tape and dispute that, I 431 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: gladly let them do that. Man. But you know me personally, 432 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: it's just it's a team game, man. And being able 433 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: to thrive in in a defense like this, I think 434 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: that this defense fits me and suits me so well. Man. 435 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: And you have so many moving parts when you have 436 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: a front seven like that with with you know, merciless 437 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: and clowney and why and I mean it's hard to 438 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: not be productive in its defense, and which is why 439 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: the DBS in the Houston Texans system is always productive. 440 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: And it's you know those it starts with those front 441 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: seven Russian cover go together you know, absolutely no doubt. 442 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: How does it feel to be reunited with select and Man? 443 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: He was he FaceTime yea, he facetimmy last night when 444 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: we kind of knew that this deal was pretty much final. 445 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: He facetimmy, Man, And you know, he was excited. He 446 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: was excited. He you know, the we just sit there 447 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: on FaceTime, Man and me and me and AC has 448 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: some of ours, some of some deep talks, Man, some 449 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: some real heart to heart talks, Man. And that is 450 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: truly like my brother, like truly like one of the 451 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: closest guys, one of my closest teammates. Man, one of 452 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: the guys who you met as a teammate, but you 453 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: leave as a brother. And he truly is somebody who 454 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: I look at like that man. So being reunited with him, 455 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you you walk into a locker room with 456 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: somebody who you have just this great relationship with Man 457 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: that that definitely helps the atmosphere. Man. So I'm excited 458 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: to be here partnering up with him. Man, We're gonna 459 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: do some damage this year, yeah, no doubt. Now, just 460 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: one last question for I let you go the free 461 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: agent process. You've you've been through that you made a 462 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: decision to go to Jacksonville right then Jacksonville obviously makes 463 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: this decision that leads you opportunity to go wherever you 464 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: want to go. At that point, is it stressful? Is 465 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: it exciting? Is it kind of all the above? What's 466 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: the process of our question? I think at anybody who 467 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: this process last time. I was a young guy, and 468 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: I will say what a lot of guys probably wouldn't say, 469 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: is I was chasing. I was chasing the money man 470 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: I wanted. I was an undrafted guy who who never 471 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: made you know, much money in the league, and when 472 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: I had my opportunity, I struck while I could. This 473 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: process was a little more different from me, and which 474 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: was why I felt like it was a little more stressful. 475 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's a sitement. You sit 476 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: there and you think about it. You say, the opportunities 477 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: that you might have. I could end up on a 478 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: team that's going to a super Bowl. You know, the 479 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: opportunity is just a whole new city, a whole new 480 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: environment to adapt to. It's a little stressful because at 481 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: the end of the day, when it comes down to 482 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: the meeting potatoes of things, you know you still got 483 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: to make sure that you choose the right team. I 484 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: don't want to just go for a team who offered 485 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: me the most dollars. I don't want to go to 486 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: a team with the biggest name. Oh because of this 487 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: is you know, and you know that makes it stressful 488 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: because at that point you have to sit down and 489 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 1: analyze everything and you have to realize, Okay, how does 490 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: this fit me as a player? First of all, how 491 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: successful cannot be? First and foremost, how's to see? Um? 492 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: You know, you you you want to know, Okay, how's 493 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: the coaches? And you know, when you get to this 494 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: stage of my career, this is year eight, all those 495 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: things start weighing in. Some days you're excited about the process, 496 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: and you know, some days you're not. Fortunately for me, 497 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: I only had three days of being um, you know, unclaimed. 498 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: But those three days, man, I can tell you, man, 499 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: my emotions was. I would be happy and then I 500 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: would get really like sad, like man, well, and then 501 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: I get happy. We talked to my agent, and then 502 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: you get excited and then you say, okay, this team, 503 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: this is what they're talking about. And then you just 504 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: go through a process where you're sad because you're like man, 505 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: I truly don't know how that's gonna be in, man, 506 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: but you're praying for the best, but you also understanding 507 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: that sometimes that don't work out how you plan. But 508 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: unfort fortunately for me, Man, by the grace of God, 509 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: Man and glory be to him, I landed in a 510 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: perfect opportunity. Man. Everything truly just worked out perfect for me. Man. 511 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: And here I am. I'm sitting here talking to y'all. 512 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm in Houston, man, and I can't beat this. To Sean, 513 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: that's great stuff, Man, Congratulations, Congratulations your family because that's 514 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: a big part of this as well. Welcome to Houston, 515 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: my man, and I appreciate it. Thank you well. I 516 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: was fun, had a really good time talking to de 517 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: Sean Gibson, newest Houston Texan safety about six foot. I 518 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: mean he was looking at righting the ey about six 519 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: foot about two fifteen and when you see him on 520 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: the field, he looks long and rangy, but boy, he's tough. 521 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: He is really tough. I went and watched the the 522 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: Week two game against the Patriots. I watched those games 523 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: that he had to cover tight ends and covering zach 524 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 1: Ertz and covering Gronk and covering Kelsey and I mean, 525 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: I go back to that Urge game. Maybe obviously Gronk 526 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: has just destroyed us for years, and like, how do 527 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: you cover him? You put two guys on him, you know, 528 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: you put Zach on him, then you put Kareem with him, 529 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: and you had some of you tried some different things. 530 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: Jackson'll just said, hey to Sean, you got him to 531 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: go get him and shut him down. So that player 532 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: now resides in the Texans secondary. So hopefully tomorrow the 533 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: day after that, we'll get a chance to talk to 534 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: Bradley Roby and whoever the Texans add next. The teams 535 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: have been adding players, well, they're due to add players. 536 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: They have been agreeing to terms with many. One star 537 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL agreed to terms, went to bed, woke 538 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: up and said, WHOA, I like Purple. We'll talk about that. 539 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the AFC South has done, and where 540 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: will Levon bell Land. We'll talk about all that next 541 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: right here in Texas All Access. Texans All Access continues 542 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: in a moment. Alexis continues in a moment alex Don't 543 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: miss an episode of our Texans podcasts. Subscribe on iTunes, 544 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: tune in, and Stitcher. To get the latest and right 545 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: to your phone. Welcome back to Texas, man, how's that 546 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: feeling to be back in your homestay? And I couldn't 547 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: even describe it, the feeling just being back in a 548 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: state of Texas just awesome, amazing feeling right now. And 549 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: that's just one of the biggest things I take away 550 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: from this, man, is I take it for granted, man, 551 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: being able to be close to home, playing in front 552 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: of my family, and you know, you always got understand, man, 553 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: football to such a big deal out here, and you know, 554 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: coming back in this environment, you really can't beat this. 555 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't have scripted my career in the land and 556 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: following in a better environment in it is right now. 557 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: That was to Sean Gibson, newest member of the Texans secondary. 558 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: He will play safety. He has played corner, but that 559 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: was a long time ago back at the University of 560 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: Wyoming when I first studied him as a draft prospect. 561 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: I have to go look at my computer. I would 562 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: imagine I've got a draft report on him somewhere. I 563 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: gotta go see what it said. But very what's the 564 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: right word I'm looking for? Outgoing? He's definitely not a 565 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: Wallflower said he's gonna chirp a little bit on the field. 566 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: That was kind of nice. So your news if you 567 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: have missed it to this point, and welcome back to 568 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: Texas All Access. I'm Ris John Harris, Football annos and 569 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: solid reporter. Yesterday not a great day for the Texans, 570 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: especially the secondary, Tyren Matthew. You're going to Kansas City, 571 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: Creem Jackson going to Denver, Kevin Johnson going to the 572 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. But to day is a new day, and 573 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: the Texans added a couple of free agents. One officially 574 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: signed because he had been a keff cash in Jacksonville, 575 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: and that was to Sean Gibson. We just talked to 576 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: him and he was really fun to talk to, play 577 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: in that Jacksonville defense for three years and very honest 578 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: and open about that interview. I thought it was really 579 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: cool when he talked about going to Jacksonville in the 580 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: first place, and I remember when that happened. I remember 581 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: when he went there in the first place and he said, look, 582 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: I was a young dude, I was undrafted. I was 583 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: chasing a check. But now he's got the opportunity to 584 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: stepped back with family and realized this opportunity is a 585 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: good one. Later in the afternoon, we found out that 586 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: Bradley Roby, formerly of the Denver Broncos, will take a 587 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: one year deal with the Houston Texans. Now we talked 588 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: about this a little bit, this one year deal, and 589 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: why would you do something on a one year deal. Well, 590 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: look what it did for Tyron Matthew. Now, time in 591 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: place and timing and all that. I mean, that's got 592 00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: to all be right. But Tyr Tyrant cashed in. But 593 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: I thought the promo that you've heard on sports Rada sixteen, 594 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: if you've been listening with Mike Meltz are talking about it, 595 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: I think kind of kind of summed it up. I 596 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: think everybody thought here that Tyro would be, you know, 597 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: better and worth fourteen million. Look, there aren't a lot 598 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: of guys at the safety position worth fourteen million dollars 599 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, and I'm just saying that outright. 600 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anybody at the safety position. 601 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: I just go, yeah, he's worth fourty million dollars. But 602 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: here's where you gotta step back and go, wait a second. 603 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: The market dictates what's gonna happen, and the market for 604 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: safeties went through the roof. That being said, you look 605 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: at the contract for to Sean Gibson, you gotta feel 606 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: pretty good about that because you're gonna get a one 607 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: year deal of ten million dollars apparently for Bradley Roby, 608 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: and then a three year deal worth on average about 609 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: seven point three million four to Sean Gibson. So you're 610 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: getting Robie and Gibson for a little bit more than 611 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: what you would have gotten with just one Tyrann Matthew. 612 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: So it's yeah, I hate to see Tyrn go. But 613 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: if you're looking at it from a value standpoint, and 614 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: I take you back to twenty eleven, this entire town 615 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: was screaming for dbs. Kareem was gonna go out to 616 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: the second year and hopefully he was gonna get better, 617 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: but they still needed defensive backs. They've gotten scorched the 618 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: year before twenty ten. Nabi Asomwa is the best corner market. 619 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: Here's what I heard, and I've heard this from so 620 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: many people this week, and I want to put this 621 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: to bed. If you don't go getting down the Awsomwa, 622 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: then you don't care. Then you don't care about this team, 623 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Then you're then you don't get like no, because in 624 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, the Texans said, we'll take Jonathan Joseph and 625 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Manning for what they're gonna play for Namdi Asomwa. 626 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: Namdi Asomwa goes to the situation in Philly. It doesn't 627 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: work out. Jonathan Joseph ends up being here longer than 628 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: he was ever in Cincinnati. Daniel Manning did a really 629 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: good job of solid job for the Texas. That safe. 630 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: They got two guys for the price of one, and 631 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: that one might have been all that good. And so 632 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: they get Gibson, they get Robie. Now what are the 633 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: future plans? Well, Ronald Darby corner, let's think about high 634 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: level offensive tackle. And I know people have asked about this, 635 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: and people have talked about this. It's not happening because 636 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: there are no tackles out on the market. Guys. I've 637 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: been trying to say that there are no tackles on 638 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: the market. So anybody say, well they gotta go get 639 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: a free agent, they don't. There aren't any. Once Trent 640 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: went and took every dour the Raiders were willing to 641 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: give to him. And you want James who I don't 642 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: even know that you really wanted in all honesty, but 643 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: he was the only other tackle in addition to Daryl Williams. 644 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,239 Speaker 1: But Darrell Williams is coming off a leg injury from 645 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: last year. It cost him to miss the entire year. 646 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: Now he doesn't have a home. So maybe you wait 647 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: till maybe tonight, I don't know, who knows. Maybe you 648 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: make a deal with Darryl Williams and you say, look, 649 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: that's a guy we can go out and we can 650 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: get value from him because he's coming off an injury, 651 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: and maybe he outperforms that. Maybe that's maybe that's what happens. 652 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: But for the most part, the offensive tackle free agent 653 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: class was tramp Brown and two guys coming off injury. 654 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: That's it. That's all that was there. So I don't 655 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: think anything will happen that in that regard. But defensive 656 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: backs there's still a few out there. There's still a 657 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: few out there. Number one, and by defensive backs, that 658 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: meat corners. I think the safety thing handled Gibson how 659 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: read that's the way you go. Maybe one of the 660 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 1: young guys a J. Moore or Mike Tyson gets involved 661 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: in that mix as well, going to be in the 662 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 1: fourth safety. But your safety mix at that point is 663 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: solid good corner still gonna work on even with Roby, 664 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: because now Robi's in the mix, which a joe with 665 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: Jermaine Kelly, So you still got to do weren't. So 666 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: what's available still at the cornerback position? Rol Darby? That's 667 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: the name I hear from a lot of people. If 668 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: you don't go get Ron off Darby, you don't care. Look, 669 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: Darby's coming off an injury too. What makes you think that? Darby? 670 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: And that's the one thing that everybody out there, me, 671 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: me and you, all of us. I mean, I'm in 672 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: the NFL building, so I have access to the trainers 673 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: and the medical people, and I could ask them. I 674 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: don't because that gets sticky. I could ask him, hey, 675 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: what do you think about Darby? Is he healthy? They're 676 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: the only ones that know. They're the only ones that know. 677 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: But Darby has not signed a deal. He's one corner 678 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: Bryce Callahan for the Bears who played at Rice. He 679 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: has not signed a deal. Now he's more of a nickel, 680 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: as you heard to Sean Gibson say about Aaron con 681 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: Eric Colvin's still here and hopefully Aaron's gonna have that 682 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: bounce back here and hopefully he has that with one 683 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: of his fellow secondary brothers back there, Gibson back in 684 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 1: the secondary. So you've got Colvin and Bradley. Roby can 685 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: always go to Nickel if you if you got to 686 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: do that too, but you're not gonna move Robie inside 687 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: unless you've got somebody to work on the outside. So 688 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: Darby's still out there. Bears quarterback Bryce Callahan, he's a Nickel. 689 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: I don't know that that makes a ton of sense 690 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: at that point for you. Here's the one that I 691 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: have looked at, and I like Pierre Desire of the 692 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. He's a guy that of anybody that the 693 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: Texans faced, he's a guy that gave the Texans and 694 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins's most issue. That's the guy. Now, as I 695 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: said earlier about Nambi Assawa, you know, Nambie did things 696 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: in Pits and excuse me, an Oakland a certain way. 697 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: Then he went to Philadelphia, he was doing a different way. 698 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: And there are a lot more expectations and that probably 699 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: be the same for Pierre Desier has not signed a deal. 700 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: Here's another one that's intriguing. I actually thought when he 701 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: went to New England last year. I was like, he's 702 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: that say he's done, there's nothing left. But it's gonna 703 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: be pretty hard to get Jason mccordy out of New 704 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: England considering that his brother looks like his brother's gonna 705 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: play a final year or at least another year. Let's 706 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: talking about retirement for both Devin mccordy and Gronkowski, but 707 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: it looks like mccordy's coming back. Don't know about Gronk 708 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: just yet. But mccordy has not signed. Jason mccordy has 709 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: not signed the way that he ran the Super Bowl. 710 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: You think, boy, and maybe he could do that for 711 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: the Texans. Steven Nelson signed a deal with the Steelers. 712 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: So here's the domino effect of Bradley Roby. And actually 713 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: maybe he starts to Mkareem Jackson. Le Broncos gone and 714 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: get Kareem Jackson, and and maybe the thought was they 715 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: weren't gonna get Bradley Roby, so le Broncos get Kareem, 716 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: then we go get Bradley Roby. Roby was being looked 717 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: at by the Steelers. Apparently the Steelers offered him a 718 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: three year deal and the forty nine Ers offered him 719 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: a one year deal, and he said, I'm gonna take 720 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: the one year deal with the Texans, get to prove 721 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: it deal, you know, stay in Houston hopefully long term. 722 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: I mean, that'd be kind of nice. But he turned 723 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: down the Steelers. And why does that matter? Because Stephen 724 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: Nelson ended up taking the Steelers deal. Also, corners left 725 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: on the board dar Quest Denard from the Since Daddy Bengals. 726 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: Not a guy that can fly, a good, strong, physical corner, 727 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: but not a guy you go who he can run 728 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: with everybody. That's not kind of his game. Let's see 729 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: Justin Coleman. He signed with the Lions. What are their corners? 730 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: And I'm missing here? Kevon Webster is listed. He's still 731 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: out there, obviously played I mean all of what ten 732 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: plays last year for us. We really don't even know 733 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: what what he can do. One that's very intreating, but 734 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: I also think he's a nickel is Jason Varrette from 735 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers. He's just been beaten up so badly by injuries. 736 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: If he had been able to stay healthy, I think 737 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: he would have been a huge piece for the Chargers defense. 738 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: But he just he can't. He can't stay healthy. So 739 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: that's essentially what you have on the cornerback plate, if 740 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: you will, that's what you've got. I think there's value there. 741 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: I think Pierre Desire I wouldn't even I wouldn't even 742 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: minded Jason bringing them with Cordy. I got no problems 743 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: with that. Jason I thought played pretty well last year. 744 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: Gilmour played out of his mind for New England. But 745 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: I thought mccordy played pretty well, So bringing in mccordy 746 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed to that. So when I sat 747 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: down and did my fifty three man roster, I have 748 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: the Texans signing another free agent and a rookie at corner. 749 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: With the tackles. I actually have them drafting two rookies 750 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: because I just I don't think there's any any player 751 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: on this on this offensive tackle free agent list where 752 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: I go that guy that's gonna happen. Now, if you 753 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: tell me that you can get Daryl Williams and Darryl 754 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: Williams physically is gonna be healthy enough, then that would 755 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: be a guy. Maybe I'm like, all right, let's let's 756 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: go ahead, let's go do this. But that's it. That's 757 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: that's all that's left. The corners. There is a little 758 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: bit more depth. So I do think there there will 759 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: be another defensive back signing. I do think it's gonna 760 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: be a corner. I think it's got to be a corner. 761 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: I would be shocked if they're able to sign a tackle, 762 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: if they're able to sign a guy like Daryl Williams, 763 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: but that's that's taken a little bit of a leap 764 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: of faith. But then again, look, they signed Shantrell Henderson 765 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: to that leap of faith last year and he was 766 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna start for him, actually did start for him, but 767 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: then got hurt in Week one. They've brought They've resigned 768 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: shan Trelle to let him step back into that right 769 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: tackle spot, and if he's right, I think Seantrell is 770 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 1: the right guy. And again it's another one year, proven 771 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: deal for Shantra Henderson. Hopefully this year he can stay healthy. 772 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: But that's where I think it ends up. At this point, 773 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: I think it ends up being two offensive tackles that 774 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna end up drafting young guys, let them grow. 775 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: Those are gonna be the guys. And then in the secondary, 776 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: I think after Gibson, after Roby, I think it's one 777 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: more free agent and then I think they end up 778 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: adding a rookie, maybe even two. So where does that 779 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: leave Levion Bell. Well, he's one of the top five 780 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: free agents in the league, and it leaves him dropping 781 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: a mixtape tonight. Apparently that's the rumor that at midnight midnight, 782 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: Levion Bell is dropping a mixtape or something of that 783 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: ilk which I you know, seen a lot of things 784 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: in free agency, especially with those former Pittsburgh Steelers, but 785 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: Leveon Bell has been given essentially a nighttime deadline by 786 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. Now I bring up Levion because 787 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: I've heard from a lot of people that say the 788 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: Texans should sign Levion. I first glance, I'm like, well, 789 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: let's take a look at two things. Number one, do 790 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: I think it could happen? Number two? Do I want 791 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: it to happen? Would I like it to happen? And yeah, 792 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: I would like that. I mean, the guy would add 793 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: so much to an offense that needs, you know, more weapons. 794 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: You got will full or healthy with Kik QT and 795 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins healthy Watson. Now you had Levion balanced and mix. 796 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: My gosh, wow, But realistically okay, But when I woke 797 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: up this morning and I was looking at the teams 798 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: that actually are quote unquote in the mix. I see 799 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: the Texans name, and it's a little bit surprising, to 800 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: be honest, because it just doesn't feel like a move 801 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: the Texans would make from that standpoint of boy, you're 802 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to pay a lot of money. But what's 803 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: happened apparently with Levion is that the offer that he 804 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: got from Pittsburgh was the best offer by flar. He 805 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: got like a twelve or thirteen million dollar a year 806 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: offer in agency, a long term deal. He turned it down, 807 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: and that brought on the whole franchise tag, I'm not 808 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: playing the year out all that kind of stuff. So 809 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: Levion turned down, and so the teams apparently they are 810 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: in the mix, are like, ah, you know, look, we're 811 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: only gonna go to this point. So there's a thought that, hey, 812 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: wait a second, if Levion kind of is in that 813 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: range of you know, eleven million, twelve million a year, 814 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: and maybe we need to get back on this thing. 815 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: Maybe we need to get in this mix. When the 816 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: Jets are saying, look, we've put a good offer in 817 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: front of you, make a decision, which I don't think 818 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: it's been a good strategy with Levion Bell to be honest, 819 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: but it certainly has got me thinking. I just don't 820 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: think that it happens here. I just don't think. And 821 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: that's not a knocking Levion. It's not a knock on 822 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: the Texans. And I just don't think it happens here. 823 00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: With the way that the Texans have prioritized there, their 824 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: holes and what they're lacking, to throw a bunch of 825 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: money at a running back just sounds like something they're 826 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: not going to do, especially when they didn't draft and develop. 827 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: That just doesn't sound like something they would do. That said, Levion, 828 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: Bell's not found at home, but he does have a 829 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: mixtape coming out tonight apparently, so we've got that to 830 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: look forward to. My guess is he's announcing on the 831 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: mixtape where he's gonna go. Now, the Ravens have been 832 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: rumored all along, but I saw six teams on a 833 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: tweet today that are actually still involved in this, and 834 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: it was Ravens, Jets, Texans, Chiefs, The Raiders were in it, 835 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: but they just paid a bunch of money in the 836 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: Marcus Joiners. I don't think that's gonna happen. And then 837 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers were the other team. But the 838 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: Chargers Man Chargers hadn't Oh my goodness, but they've got 839 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: Melbourne Gordon, so that doesn't make a lot of sense, 840 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: But those are the teams I end up seeing it. 841 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, interesting to see where Levion Bell 842 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: he's one. He is the top free agent that has 843 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: not signed minus all the franchise tag guys. The other 844 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: one is Earl Thomas, who's coming off that broken leg. 845 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: I think I kept saying that Achilles tendon. It was 846 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: a broken leg that he had against the Cardinals last year, 847 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: and he's not signed anywhere, and obviously he wants that 848 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars Landon Collins, Tyron Matthew deal where he 849 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: can get paid for a couple of years. Now, he's thirty, 850 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: he's coming off injury, so I don't know if he's 851 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: finding the market not to his liking, but he has 852 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,720 Speaker 1: not been signed. Those are the two top free agents 853 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: and the next one, as I mentioned, Ronald Darby, that's 854 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: the next one to keep an eye on, and he 855 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: of course is coming off a leg injury, so that 856 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: of course makes his prospects pretty interesting. Had a great show, 857 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: Gotta thank Joanna Back in studio at sports Radio six 858 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: ten She did an excellent job making sure I didn't 859 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: say anything I was going to regret. The next day, 860 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: thanks to to Sean Gibson, newest Texan. He stepped in 861 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: studio and joined me and we talked about life as 862 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: a Texan literally and figuratively, well literally as a Texan. 863 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 1: He's from Dallas and now as a Houston Texan. That's 864 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: not figured it, that's literal too. Hell yeah, double dose 865 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: to Texan for to Sean Gibson. So I appreciate him, 866 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: my man Omar for making that happen. To all of 867 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: you for listen, you guys the absolute best. I will 868 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. I didn't do it tonight, long story 869 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: because it took Gibson a long time to get in here. 870 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't get over to Sports Radio six ten, But 871 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: I will tomorrow. I will take as many calls as 872 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: I could possibly fit in two an hour tomorrow as 873 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: the new league year actually begins and all these signings 874 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: and trades can become official. You know, by the way, 875 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: there's an Oklahoma prote tomorrow too, some quarterback named Kyler 876 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: Murray's gonna throw. So keep it right here at Sports 877 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: Radio six ten. Adam Wexler and Josh Beard. I've got 878 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: to see it for the next forty five minutes and 879 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 1: they're gonna be the best damn forty five minutes you've 880 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: ever heard. Thank you everybody, see tomorrow and as always, 881 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: go Texans Touchdown. Texans Radio continues in a moment, in 882 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: a moment, in a moment,