1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's our one Wednesday 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Dan and the Dan x Stan Patrick Show say good morning, 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: our peacock streaming partner. Those listening on radio, iHeartRadio Fox 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in nearly four hundred cities around America and growing, 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: thank you, whole question play the day, stat of the day. 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: All of that. Forthcoming NFL Owners meetings will take a 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: peek into what is being discussed and doesn't seem like 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: much as coming out of the Washington football team investigation. 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: But maybe Deshaun Watson could be traded by next Tuesday. 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I know that it feels like 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: front burner. But we'll talk to the great Albert Breer 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: from Sports Illustrated. He's at the owners meetings about that 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: possibility of Deshaun Watson being traded. Also a little later on, 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: we'll talk to Big Poppy. He'll recap what happened in 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: baseball last night. Phone calls are always welcome eight seven 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: seven three d P Show email address dpitt dan Patrick 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: dot com. Twitter handle is at DPS show. Baseball isn't 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: just about talent, It's about timing as well. The Braves 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: won only eighty eight regular season games, but they made 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: some key personnel moves and their guys got hot at 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: the right time, and they're a different team since the 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: trade deadline, a very confident team, even though they didn't 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: have a dominant regular season. And last night they opened 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: the World Series with a pretty strong statement, even though 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: my guy Charlie Morton broke his leg leaving early and 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: Atlanta beat Houston six to two. Whatever this team was 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: back in June doesn't matter. Now. It's a potent lineup 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: and bullpen is peeking early home runs set the tone. 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Bullpen terrific, holding the Astros down for over six innings. 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: And I know it's one game and the Astros have 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: no reason to panic. They've shown an inatability to come 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: back strong from losses. But any thought that Houston is 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: a decided favorite probably vanished after impressive performance by the 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Braves in Game one. Sometimes it's just a field that 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: you have with a team. Sometimes that team peeking at 37 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: the right time, and I think you see this with 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: the Braves. Whether they're going to be reminiscent of Oral 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Hirscheizer and the Dodgers back in nineteen eighty eight. Now 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: Oral was so brilliant back then. That Braves don't have 41 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: that number one guy. Most teams don't have a number 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: one guy anymore, but timely hitting guys that you don't 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: expect to step up, and that's what happens. And then 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: it gets contagious. And now you have Charlie Morton who 45 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: got hit in the leg and he stayed in to 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: strike out Josel Tuve. He got hit by a one 47 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: hundred and two mile an hour liner a comebacker and 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: broke his leg, fractured his leg, stayed in, wanted to 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: stay in. That's where you get legendary status. Now we've 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: seen this before. It's like if Kurt Gibson hits the 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: home run and the Dodgers don't win the World Series, 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: it's a footnote. It was game one of nineteen eighty eight. 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: Tarall Owens played in the Super Bowl and played brilliantly 54 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: with a fractured leg. What if the Eagles had won 55 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: that Jack Youngblood of the Rams played in the Super 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Bowl with the broken leg, but they didn't win. It's 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: when you win. Kurt Schilling, bloody sock. If they don't win, 58 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: all right, man, he's a gamer. He you know, he 59 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: pitched through pain. It's a nice story. When you win, 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: that's when you get elevated to legendary status. If you 61 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: didn't know Charlie Morton, you do now because he went 62 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: out there with a broken leg and still wanted to 63 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: continue to pitch. Here is his manager after the performance, 64 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: Brian Snitker. He wanted to keep going because he was 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: down in the tunnel and he was throwing against the 66 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: wall and it said, you know, it's just kind of 67 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: hurts more when I run, I feel good when I throw. 68 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean just the fact that he wanted to keep going. 69 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: As Charlie, I mean, he wants to be on this 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: age and God bless him and sits. I hate it 71 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: for him, really hate it for him. He's such a 72 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: great person, great person and teammate and I just I do. 73 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: I really hate it for him because I know he's 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: really looking forward to this run with us. He kept 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: saying after the game when people came up ask him 76 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: how he was doing these goes, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: but he still wanted to go out there and pitch. 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: And I said this a couple of weeks ago. He's 79 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: one of my favorite pitchers to watch because he pitches. 80 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't throw. He pitches, and he's thirty seven years 81 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: of age and he's been around. He's got good postseason success. 82 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: But I'm watching and I'm you know, people are responding 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: and they're texting me, You're boys on the Mound, Charlie Morton, 84 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I'm like, I think he 85 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: just broke his leg. And then I'm like, wait, can't 86 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: be pitching if he still has a broken leg. And 87 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: then he struck out at two Bay and I'm like yeah, 88 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: and then he had that follow through and it was like, 89 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: oh boy, he's in trouble there. Braves Astro's Game two 90 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: coming up tonight. By the way, the Jeopardy champ Madamodeo, 91 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: he's a third on the all time list as far 92 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: as consecutive wins. He'll join us in studio and I 93 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: ask him, you pick a category, Matt. You know, mister 94 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: Jeopardy champ here, I barely got my communications degree in college. 95 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: He's doing something at Yale right now with a PhD 96 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: and something something something, But he said baseball, So we 97 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: have some baseball questions for mister Jeopardy. He'll join us 98 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: coming up in studio here in the man Cave. Next hour, 99 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: Big Poppy will join us in the final hour of 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: the program eight seven seven three d P Show Email 101 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at 102 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: dp's show mclovin, What kind of pulled question do you 103 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: have for us today? What do you think the hardest 104 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: postseason to predict? His? Major League Baseball, NFL or NAT NBA. Like, 105 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: when this postseason starts and you have to pick a winner, 106 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: which do you find the most challenging? I would say baseball? 107 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: Why is that? Had the braves? It's just it's timing. 108 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: It's it's when your pitcher performs or their pitcher doesn't, 109 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: or you get in a moment and somebody comes up 110 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: with a big hit or doesn't. It's weird, how you know, 111 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: you talk about momentum plus you get five games or 112 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: seven games, whereas in you know, football, you get one, 113 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: it's one and done. Basketball you'll get you know, seven games. 114 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: But in baseball it feels like that momentum can shift 115 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: back and forth, and it's not necessarily about home field 116 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: or home court advantage. Super Bowls played on a neutral site. 117 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: So when we get to the Super Bowl, I always 118 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: feel like We have a better handle on who's going 119 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: to win, but as far as when it starts, you're 120 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: not quite sure. Because it wasn't that long ago we 121 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: thought Jacksonville was going to the super Bowl. It wasn't 122 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: that long ago that we thought the Texans were going 123 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: to knock off the Chiefs, or the Titans We're going 124 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: to knock off the Chiefs, or that Tampa was probably 125 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: dead after twelve games last year at a seven and 126 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: five record, Right, you know, this is what happens. Go 127 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: back to when the Packers won the Super Bowl. They 128 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: got hot late wild card team you win a Super Bowl. 129 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: The Giants Elne you know, they were wild card teams 130 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: I believe, barely got in the playoffs, ended up beating 131 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Patriots. It's just it's its momentum 132 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: is tricky, and you know, we try to define it, 133 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: explain it, and it's not that easy to do. What 134 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: else do we have? Okay, this might dip into saber metrics, 135 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: but would you either have the best bullpen in Major 136 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: League Baseball or a group of very good starters in 137 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: today's game? I would have a really good bullpen feels 138 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: that way. Uh yeah, because we're only asking starters to 139 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: go four innings. I mean, if you go five, it's 140 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: like that's a herculean task, Like, oh my god, he 141 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: went five innings? Is that smart? Though? Look, I've railed 142 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: against analytics because I think part of what you do 143 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: as a manager is a gut feeling. How many times 144 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: does a managers say, you know, I just had a feeling. 145 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't about the percentages. I just had a feeling 146 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: I was sending somebody up in a situation. I was 147 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 1: bringing somebody in it. I just thought it was their moment. 148 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: I love that, but I thought that that's what baseball 149 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: used to be. It was just a feeling you had 150 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: sometimes you're around these players every single day, instead of 151 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: let's see, he's throwing fifteen pitches, I got to get 152 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: him out of there. Well wait, he's he just struck 153 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: out the sign. Yeah, I got to get him out 154 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: of there. You talk yourself into things and out of things. 155 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: I think with those numbers, and I think that's where 156 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: it gets day. It gets robotic and at times you go, wait, 157 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And sometimes a manager will just go, hey, 158 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: the numbers said okay, the numbers like guys like something 159 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: that has a feel to it, personality to it, not 160 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: a computer that's just going to spit out numbers and 161 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: then somebody hands it to you and says, you got 162 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: to get that guy out of there. Why oh, you 163 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: can't have him bad against him? Why we numbers say okay, yeah, Ton, 164 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know how it doesn't hurt the sport. 165 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: I know you got to change with the times, but 166 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: I just remember the big pitching matchup that you've got 167 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: to tune in for. You're thinking about going to an 168 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: upcoming game. It's like, I want to see that picture 169 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: against that picture, and no matter how great they pitch, 170 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: if in the back of your mind you know they're 171 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna be pulled if the three or four innings are 172 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: a certain number of pitches. I think that's terrible for 173 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: the sport. Yeah, but there's nothing you can do. Analytics 174 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: is taken over. Guys like you who graduated second in 175 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: their class are taking over baseball. Guys like ncloven who 176 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: went to Dartmouth. You know, they're taking over the game. 177 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: Less c students are involved in the game, and I 178 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: think that's the problem. Back row, yes, toun or, yes, mcclub. 179 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why there is an argument to be 180 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: made for analytics. Look at self driving cars. That's gonna 181 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: sound weird, but self driving cars feel dangerous because you 182 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: know there's no driver behind the wheel. But statistically they're 183 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: fifty times safer than having some teenager texting on their 184 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: phone on south going ninety miles an hour. They are 185 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: actually safer by following the numbers. It's better to by 186 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: the numbers than by gut feel. Like a manager, by 187 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: the way, these managers, who are they? Who? These managers like, 188 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: how do we know that gut feel isn't absolutely wrong? 189 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: There's nothing accurate about gutfield. Okay, but it feels like 190 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: has analytics has it made it more appealing aesthetically appealing? Oh? 191 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Okay, that's the point I'm trying to make 192 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: is analytics because of that it's made it robotic, and 193 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: that there is no you know, this is what you 194 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: need to do. I remember when you were talking about 195 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: Adam Dunn forever, like Dunn's an awesome player. I go, no, 196 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: he's not. Oh man, he gets on base and you know, 197 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: his his war and all that. I said, He's not 198 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: a great He's not a good baseball player. He's a 199 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: baseball player, Well, our next, our upcoming guess Big Poppy. 200 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: The reason the Red Sox got him they saw that 201 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: he had a huge on base percentage and a bad average. 202 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: It said, like, wait a second, there's something there that 203 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: we're not seeing. Walk should count as a hit. He 204 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: also hit a lot of home runs, timely home runs. 205 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: That helps. But I remember analytics on that. Brducci said, 206 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: that was a pure analytics play by the Red Sox 207 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: to steal Big Poppy from Minnesota. But he underachieved with Minnesota, 208 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, he turned out to be great 209 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: in Boston. Okay, so we gotta be careful when we say, oh, 210 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: they saw something that Minnesota didn't see. I mean, well, 211 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: they saw something in the numbers. I mean, like to 212 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: look out, all the analytics guy's teams are winning. The Dodgers, 213 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: the Rays, the Astros. These are all analytics heavy teams. Well, 214 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: everybody's analytics now actually Kadam all three. But if everybody 215 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: is analytics, doesn't it cancel out analytics? Possibly because I 216 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: would know what you're doing, yes, by based off my sheet. Yes, 217 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: so my analytics say you're going to do that. Therefore, 218 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: do I change my analytics? That's advanced Ana, Yes, you know, 219 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a real factor that you have to 220 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: swerve away. Yes see. But a lot of times they 221 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: show a real inability to adjust even knowing what's about 222 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: to happen. Like take in baseball, everybody knows certain players 223 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: are going to be played with a shift and they 224 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: leave one whole side of the field open. All you 225 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: have to do is poke it the other way and 226 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: you'll get a triple. And batters still can't do that. Yeah, 227 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: I can't figure that out. Like, what's the analytics of 228 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: putting the ball in play the other way? How about 229 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: a bunt? Maybe just hit the ball to the left 230 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: side of the enfield where there is nobody, but the 231 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: analytics say, nope, you gotta swing away. That doesn't make 232 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: any sense. Yeah, it feels like football is still gut 233 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: feeling where analytics haven't taken over. There. We did a 234 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: thing years ago in overtime. Analytics say you should kick 235 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: the ball off because the other team it's unlikely they're 236 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: going to go seventy five yards for a touchdown. 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Catch all 244 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: the action November fifth and sixth, only on NBC Sports. 245 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk about the possibility Deshaun Watson is 246 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: traded by next Tuesday, that's the trade deadline. Albert Brewer 247 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: will join us. I guess there's nothing to see with 248 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: the Washington football team investigation. As I've said many times, 249 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: according to my source who's involved in this, the cover 250 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: up is worse than the crime. And this is about 251 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: owners protecting owners, or the commissioner protecting owners. That's what 252 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: this is about, from what I'm told. And you know, 253 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's job is to basically take the slings and arrows. 254 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: Yesterday's job was to just say, hey, nothing to see here, 255 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: and we move on everything. It's almost like weekly when 256 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: there's a controversy and then it moves on and because 257 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: there's something else that comes up. The commissioner just did 258 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: his job yesterday. My job is to protect the owners, 259 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: sometimes from themselves. We'll talk about Mike Tomlin's press conference yesterday. 260 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: And you were forewarned, not only you the audience, but 261 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: you and the media. You were forewarned. Mike Tomlin never 262 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: put his name on this list. Never Carson Palmer put 263 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: his name on the list, and Mike Tomlin reacted accordingly. 264 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: No one ever said on this show, and it was 265 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: never inferred, implied, suggested that Mike Tomlin should take that job. 266 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: We looked at the possibility. Why would he It's a 267 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: dream list. They have probably thirty names on that list, 268 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: and they'll have some names that you would probably be 269 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: surprised at. Okay, and we'll play those comments from Mike 270 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: Tomlin on what he said. Now. Do I think he 271 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: went overboard a little bit? Yeah? I like that he 272 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: was demonstrative. I like that he didn't leave any room there, 273 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: and I hope he stays there. And yes, it's a 274 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: great job. It'd be hard to leave Pittsburgh. But I 275 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: don't know Mike Tomlin. What makes him tick. There's certain 276 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: guys who are college coaches at heart. Maybe they're tired 277 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: of the NFL. Maybe it's location, lifestyle. I don't know, 278 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: but when Carson Palmer is part of the surge committee, 279 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: then I gotta listen to him. Was I surprised, Yes, 280 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: you could hear it my voice. Am I surprised what 281 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin said yesterday? Not at all. He should stay 282 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh. They don't fire coaches. Now. He's got to 283 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: find a quarterback for next year. And you might be 284 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: the fourth best team in your own division. But hey, 285 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: that's up to Mike Tomlin. So we'll play that sound. 286 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: I'll give you more thoughts on that. And as I 287 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: mentioned yesterday, there are a couple of guys that I 288 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: heard yesterday are on that list. Kellen Moore the offense, 289 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: a coordinator with Dallas. Just saying there's a lot of names. 290 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean Kellen Moore wants to coach USC. Cliff 291 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: Kingsbury doesn't mean he wants to. But USC has a 292 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: wish list. That's it, all right. Seventeen after the hour, 293 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: we'll get phone calls coming up. Albert Brier joins us 294 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: from the owners meetings on the topic of Mike Tomlin 295 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: and also Deshaun Watson back after this and the Dan 296 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Patrick Show. It's amazing Discover matches all the cash back 297 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: you earn on your credit card at the end of 298 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: your first year, automatically with no limit on how much 299 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: you can earn. How amazing is that? 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Play of the Day, stat of the Day, 310 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: poll question, all of that. Forthcoming Braves are the first 311 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: team in World Series history to have all nine starters 312 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: record at least one hit in Game one. All right, 313 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: a couple of items here before we get to Albert 314 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: Breer Monday morning quarterback. There's a lot of talk about 315 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: what's going on with DeShawn Watson. As I've said the 316 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, from what I'm told that if 317 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: a team trades for Deshaun Watson, he will not be 318 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: suspended when that team picks him up. Now, the reason 319 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: why I said, if I'm the Miami Dolphins and I 320 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: know that Stephen Ross wants to Shawn Watson, I can't 321 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: make that deal until I know from the commissioner, give 322 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: me a sense of when you will rule on this, 323 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: because I do think Deshaun Watson will eventually be suspended, 324 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: maybe upwards of eight games. But also the bigger issue is, 325 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: if I'm Stephen Ross and the Dolphins I need to 326 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: know from Deshaun Watson or his agent, are you going 327 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: to settle this? Like, well, we'll make the trade, but 328 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: will you settle this because if you do, then we'll 329 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: give up these first round picks and whatever else, what 330 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: other compensation here? Until then, we can't make that trade. 331 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: So the trade deadline is six days from now. I 332 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: don't know if you can settle twenty two lawsuits in 333 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: that time frame. That's why I don't think that this 334 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: deal is front burner. It's going to happen. I know 335 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: that the Dolphins, and I've said this for six weeks 336 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: and five weeks now, that they were interested in Deshaun 337 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: Watson Carolina reportedly back in the picture. I have not 338 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: heard that. I only heard from somebody who knows Stephen Ross. 339 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: But the framework is there. But that's not the hard part. 340 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: The hard part is the legal framework with this the 341 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: other part. Mike Tommin was very, very demonstrative in saying 342 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: that he was not interested in the USC job. I'll 343 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: play that for you, give you some of my thoughts 344 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: that we'll bring in. Albert Breyer here's the Steeler head 345 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: coach on what Carson Palmer said on our show on 346 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: Monday that a wild card for USC would be Mike Tomlin. Hey, guys, 347 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't have time for that speculation. I mean, that's 348 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: a joke to me. I got one of the best 349 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: jobs in all the professional sport. Why would I have 350 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: any interest in coaching college football. That'll be the last 351 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: time that I address it, and not only today, but 352 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: moving forward. Never say never, but never. Okay, anybody else 353 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: got a me questions about any college jobs? Is not 354 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: a booster would have big enough blank chat, thank you. 355 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: Anybody asking Sean Payton about that, Anybody asking Andy Reid 356 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: about stuff like that? Okay, there were probably five at 357 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: five points in that he should have stopped and he 358 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: got his message out loud and clear. It's only a 359 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: twenty nine second answer there by him, but it certainly 360 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: was authoritative, monstrative, no wiggle room there whatsoever. What Mike 361 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: Tomlin should understand is this is just a wish list, 362 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: like it's a compliment, and he should view it as 363 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: a compliment. The USC is going high in the sky. 364 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: Let's put all the names out there. And that's what 365 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. Carson Palmer is part of, you know, the 366 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: committee looking into finding the next head coach at USC. 367 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: That's all. And they probably say, hey, what about Hey 368 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: do you think that's what happened? Mike Tomlin's name was 369 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: just put on the list. I don't know if he 370 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't broach the topic with USC, and 371 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: they probably haven't talked to him either, as you could tell. 372 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: But then you bring in Andy Reid or Sean Payton. 373 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: That's where he loses me because Andy Reid's name wasn't 374 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: brought up by Carson Palmer, Sean Payton wasn't brought up 375 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: by Carson Palmer. Mike Tomlin was. If John Peyton's name 376 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: was brought up, then we would have asked him about it. 377 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: Andy Reid's Name's not gonna come up. Andy Reid's not 378 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: He's he's gonna stay with Kansas City and retire with 379 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Bill Belichick's name didn't come up. I don't 380 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: know why he brought up those two names. Sean Payton. 381 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: Sean Payton was up for a couple of jobs before. 382 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: He's been linked to college jobs before USC. Sean Payton 383 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: was asked about Michigan. Michigan had an opening in twenty fourteen. 384 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: The media asked Sean Payton about it. We're not going 385 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: to back away or shy away from this. And I 386 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: even said, somebody's gonna ask Mike Tomlin about this. I 387 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: said this yesterday on the show. That's all you know. 388 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: And he should view it as a compliment, not like demotion. 389 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: Oh what's going on in Pittsburgh. You know, maybe you 390 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: should coach USC. Look, he's got to find a new 391 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: quarterback next year. He's still young. I hope he stays there. 392 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: I warned everybody yesterday because everybody was going to run 393 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: with this, and I said, look, Mike's going to deny 394 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: this rightfully, so he's got a great job. I don't 395 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: know what his interests are. But you don't leave Pittsburgh 396 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: for USC, you just don't. But Mike Tomlin made an 397 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: official that he doesn't want to be on that list, 398 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: and uh probably didn't look at it as a compliment, 399 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: but he should in my opinion. Albert Brier joins us 400 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: on the program, of course, senior NFL reporter for the 401 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback. How big a topic was Mike Tomlin 402 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: at the owners meeting? I mean, it was interesting hearing it. 403 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: You guys really kicked the harnesses there. I guess, you know, 404 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: he's interesting about it though, to meet Dan and I 405 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: think that there's a there's lament reason behind this. I 406 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: don't think people realize Mike Tomlin now has been in 407 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for as long as Bill Coller was, and it 408 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: seems like that's flown by, but it's true. He's a 409 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: fifteen years. That's a long cour was there. And so 410 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think that there's just a natural thing 411 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: where people were going to start asking the question is 412 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: there going to be a next phase of his career, 413 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: which I'm sure is how the thought came up with 414 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: the USC people. And I can tell you, I can 415 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: tell you that like when I was asking around a 416 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago about the Raider's job after John 417 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: Gruden resigned, there were like, would the Raiders load up 418 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: and make a huge run at Mike Tomlin to restore 419 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: their credibility? And it actually makes some sense, right, like, 420 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: because you think how long these guys generally stay in 421 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: these jobs, and I mean, fifteen years is a long time, 422 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: so I understand like why Tomlin had to do what 423 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: he did and why he had to say what he said. 424 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: But like I think, you know, it's just at a 425 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: natural point now where he's been there for fifteen years. 426 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: The quarterbacks probably going to be gone after next year. 427 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: There are big questions going forward if you're another team 428 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: or like one of the big time college programs, and 429 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: you and I both know they're a handful of them 430 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: that are as good as any NFL job. You know, 431 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: no matter how NFL coaches want to talk about there 432 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: are a number of those that have as many pluses 433 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: as NFL jobs do. There's I mean, you'd be doing 434 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: yourself a disservice not to ask those questions when you're 435 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: talking about your job. Doesn't mean it's going to progress anywhere. 436 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: But if you're not thinking of ideas like that. If 437 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: you're one of those programs or one of those NFL 438 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: teams that have openings, then you're not doing your job. 439 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: You should be asking those questions. Again, doesn't mean he 440 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: has any interest, doesn't mean it goes anywhere. But that's 441 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: the way a program like USC should be thinking. Yeah, 442 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: and you know when he says, you know there's not 443 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: a blank check big enough by a booster, well there 444 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: probably is. He makes eight million dollars with his Steelers, 445 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: and if somebody really wanted him, then they could you 446 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: give him twelve fifteen million dollars a year if they 447 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: wanted to. But look, I would never leave the Steelers. 448 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: But I don't know Mike Tomlin, so I don't know 449 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: what drives him. But he shouldn't be offended. And he 450 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't bring Sean Payton and Andy Readon into the equation 451 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: because Carson Palmer didn't mention those coaches there, right right. 452 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I said, like I think it 453 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: was sort of taken as like it was. It's like 454 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: like a game of telephone, right, Like It's like it 455 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: like starts as one thing and then by the time 456 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: it gets to the other party. It's something else entirely. 457 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: And I mean it almost sounded like by the time 458 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: it got to Tomlin, it went from USC would have 459 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: discussed this as like kind of a concept or an 460 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: idea to Mike Tomlin could actually do this, see know 461 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: what I mean like And it kind of like felt 462 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: like that's how he received a message, which I mean 463 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: I think is I mean that that's the explanation to 464 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: why he would take offense to it. I can't imagine 465 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: his name being on a list and like, hey, let's 466 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: just take a swing at this and see what happens. 467 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't know why that would be at all defensive 468 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, you know James Franklin's name for USC 469 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: and LSU. Now that to me is legitimate. Mike Tomlin, 470 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: I don't think he has any interest in doing that, 471 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: all right. I kind of gave the framework for what 472 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: I'm told on DeShawn Watson that we knew that they 473 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: could come up with the framework for the trade itself. 474 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: It's the legal framework. Do you what do you think 475 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: the chances are that Watson has traded by next Tuesday? Well, 476 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: so Miami has been in contact with him. Caroline actually 477 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: talked to him this week for the first time in 478 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: a couple of months, and I like, I think Caroline 479 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: is sort of still monitoring it. Denver and Philly have 480 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: been monitoring it. They're less involved right now. So you know, 481 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: I think for everybody it's the same thing. It's like, 482 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with his lead situation? And you know, 483 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: I it's interesting because like the way you laid it 484 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: out right like and it's true, like you, I'm no 485 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: reason to doubt John McClain. But if you know the 486 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: owner in Miami, who I've been told has some trepidation 487 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: over the idea of this. If the owner of Miami 488 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: is saying, we need this thing settled and we need 489 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: clarity on what's going to happen legally in with the 490 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: league over the next six days, I mean, Dan, how 491 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: much leverage would that give? I mean, like like Watson 492 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: would not be able to do it like any And 493 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to, like I don't want to diminish 494 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: the accusations or anything, but how much leverage would that 495 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: give the accusers? You know what I mean? Like, So 496 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, like I just I don't 497 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: see a scenario where everything gets settled in the next 498 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: six days, you know what I mean, It's just it 499 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: just seems unrealistic to me, And like it's just Watson's 500 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: come this far and not wanted to settle those cases, 501 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: Like would the would be being would being on the 502 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: precipice of a trade push him to do a deal 503 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: that he's you know, I mean basically refused to do 504 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: over the course of the last six months. It seems unrealistic. Yeah, 505 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: you bring up a great point. I didn't think of that. 506 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: If I'm one of the accusers and then he's traded, Uh, 507 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, are you gonna you know now it feels 508 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: like we have more leverage on you for you to 509 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: settle on our terms as opposed to yours. But you know, 510 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: if I'm Steven Ross, will the commissioner tell him what 511 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: the punishment's going to be? And if I'm Stephen Ross, 512 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: can I ask Deshaun Watson to settle these cases and 513 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: then I'll make the trade for you? And I mean, yeah, 514 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: you can. I think the hard thing again is like 515 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: the League has been despite what Rogers said yesterday, the 516 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: League has been very bigue with the teams about what 517 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: would happen if he was traded and you know what 518 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: would happen if they put him back in the field, 519 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: and how a suspension would work. And I think the 520 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: league has been intentionally vague on that Dan. I think 521 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: the reason why been intentionally is because I think they've 522 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: got the situation right now where they want it, where 523 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: they don't have to act because he's not on the field, 524 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: and the Texans are essentially doing the league solid because 525 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: again the league doesn't have to act, but he's not 526 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: in the public guy, and so this doesn't get discussed 527 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: on a Sunday morning shows. This isn't a weekly topic. 528 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: There are protesters outside of a stadium. If he gets traded, 529 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: it goes back on the field. The dynamic changes altogether. 530 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: And so, you know, I think that piece of it, 531 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: that piece of it is I know when for some 532 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: teams that were involved, has like cooled some interest there. 533 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, like, I just it's just really 534 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: really hard for me to see where there's going to 535 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: be a whole lot more clarity legally or from the 536 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: league in the next six days. The Washington football team 537 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: that investigation, the commissioner basically saying there's nothing to see here, 538 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: let's move on. You know, how does this go to 539 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: the next step where they actually have some of this 540 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: investigation revealed publicly. I mean, I like, the history tells 541 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: this is not going to be reals. I mean, like 542 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: I hate you know, I I my experience here has 543 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: sort of taught me to be a skeptic. And I mean, 544 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: and you can look at it, look at the history, right, 545 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Like so Tom Brady deflated football is two hundred and 546 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: fifty page report. You can google this right there on 547 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: the internet. Um, you know, Richie Incognito bullying and the 548 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: lot I mean, like basically a middle middle school situation, right, 549 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: and I mean, like one hundred difty page report. Federal 550 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: investigators conducting these reports. You can find them on the internet. 551 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: Ray Rise the domestic violence situation that was obviously way 552 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: more serious than Ancognito or Brady, But that one hundred 553 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: page report, you know, And like, now, try to find 554 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: anything on Jerry Richardson, Try to find anything coming from 555 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: the league on Jerry Jones or Robert Kraft, Like it 556 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: just doesn't happen, you know. And so I think this 557 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: is the way the League's always conducted business when it 558 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: comes to owners. And you know, I think anything they've 559 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: said about owners being held to a higher standard of 560 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: the players. You know, rings hollow when you actually look 561 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: at the facts. And my guess is they're gonna just 562 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: keep kicking the can down the road and hoping that 563 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: people whose interest in a story. It's just I mean, 564 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: like like I said, like, I think if you're another owner, 565 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: like I would think that you would look at this 566 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: and say, I need to pleaset like have some transparency 567 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: on this. And this is reflecting poorly on all of us. 568 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: I think the issue is that no owner wants the press. 569 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: Instead of the league being able to take anyone's team away, 570 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: their owners have skeletons and an applauses, and so you know, 571 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: I think this is probably going to remain where it 572 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: is right now. Is nothing the commissioner said yesterday would 573 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: change my mind on that. I know you have a 574 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: busy day. Thanks for joining us on short notice, Albert. 575 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. You got anytime. It's Albert Breer Monday 576 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Morning Quarterback. He summed it up. He summed it up. 577 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: You know, this is what's going to happen. Just move on. 578 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: You know, his job is to protect the owners. He 579 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: didn't care about John Gruden. He wants to protect the owners. 580 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: And if you're trying to tell me that John Gruden 581 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: and Bruce Allen, who was in the front office with 582 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: the Washington football team, those are the only guys exchanging emails. 583 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: Those are the only guys exchanging pictures of cheer leader's 584 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: topless Okay, yep, I'm supposed to believe that. Who knows 585 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: who's corresponding what they said in those emails? Yes, all 586 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: that said, it's sure feels more personal then with John Gruden. Yeah, 587 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: somebody was out to get him. Yeah, somebody was out 588 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: to get him and or the Raiders, and they did 589 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: a great job. Guy would just ask the commissioner, okay, 590 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: who leaked this? Like? Why are some reports available in 591 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: some art? Remember when I asked the commissioner, I don't 592 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: know if this was the last time he was on 593 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: ten years ago. Was that the last time the commissioner 594 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: was on? When I asked him about the Spygate tapes, 595 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: I could guarantee you what it was, Okay, And I said, 596 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: why would you destroy him? It goes well, you know 597 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: there was no reason they didn't serve any purpose. Oh 598 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: watched them and uh, no valuable evidence on there. So 599 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: we destroyed them. Yeah, vhss are dead. That's all d 600 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: these days. Yeah, you ever try to get the VHS 601 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: and put her on a DVD. It's a nightmare, Dame. 602 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: Just he has this ability to just feed you a 603 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: steaming pile of dung with the straightest of faces and 604 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: be and then be like, yeah, what's your problem, Like, yeah, 605 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: of course I deleted the tapes. The whole world is like, 606 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: what why we have to see what's on those tapes? 607 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you do this? Nothing the archive just for the 608 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: history of the sport. Like you know, he always talks 609 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: about transparency, total transparency. Why not put this in the 610 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame? Like let us let us 611 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: no one being serious. It's that funny, Like put one 612 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: of the footballs that Tom deflated. You can you can 613 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: grab it? Yes you can, Yes, like Aaron Rodgers overinflated 614 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: his Tom underinflated his Okay, Spygate tapes, let us see 615 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: it operated by Richie Incognito. Make it like an event. Yes, 616 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: you can press a button and Richie Incognito yells at you. 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I 646 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: just there are too many legal hurdles, question marks for 647 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: this to happen. I mean, you'd really be taken a 648 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: flyer on giving up three first round picks and you 649 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: don't need Deshaun Watson this year, you're not any good, 650 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: And then next year he might be sitting down for 651 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: eight games. I mean that's the tricky part with all 652 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, mclub. Another question for the audience, would 653 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: you rather coach in the NFL or college? Because I 654 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: don't think that's a done deal. I think a lot 655 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: of people would rather be a college coach, well, high 656 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: high end college coach. It depends on your personality. If 657 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: you're a control freak and they're all control freaks, varying degrees. 658 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: Nick Saban's got to control everything, urban Meyer's got to 659 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: control everything. Joe paterno coach, you know at Penn State 660 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: for such a long time, controlling everything. Steve Spurrier was 661 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: great in college, not in the pros. It's are you 662 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: good at relationships? I think being a head coach in 663 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: the NFL is are you good at communicating with your players? 664 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: Because they're completely different sports. When you think about it, 665 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: they're both football, but they're both completely different in the approach. 666 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer tried to be a college coach and he's 667 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: not a college or he's not able to bring that 668 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: college mentality to the NFL. Yeah, mclovian, it was interesting. 669 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: I thought Tomlin was saying there's less esteem with college coaches. 670 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: But Nick Saban is universally considered one of the great 671 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: coaches of any level, right, So I don't I don't 672 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: see it that way. Do you see college coaches as 673 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: like a lesser job? Well, the college coach is more important, 674 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: like their they're bigger name. Look at college basketball, not 675 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: about the players. Like when you fill out your bracket, 676 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: you go, oh, Jim Beaheim's teams always Tomzose teams always 677 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: you don't know who those players are. Name three dupe 678 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: players right now, Like it's about the it's about the 679 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: coach in college, Yeah, mclove and the NBA, we have 680 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: no idea who the coaches are. For half the teams, 681 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: it's the players. We know those names. Yeah, you know, 682 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: it's just I think when you're trying to handicap this, 683 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: and I don't want this to be about Mike. I mean, 684 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, you know, wants to worry about facing the 685 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. His name was just brought up as a 686 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: wish list of Hey, let's let's explore all of these names. 687 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: That's all. But you know, there are other coaches who 688 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: were interested in this job and interested in LSU. James Franklin, 689 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: from what I'm told, is interested in these jobs, and 690 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's as focused on his current 691 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,439 Speaker 1: job as he should be. Are you committed to being 692 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: the head coach here beyond this season? Yeah? You know, 693 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: obviously I've been asked this question multiple times, and you know, 694 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: my focus is completely on Illinois and this team and 695 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: this program. I think I've shown over my eight years 696 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: my commitment to this university and this community. And that's 697 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of my statement. Okay, i'll need to nitpick. 698 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: I don't mean to knitpick, but you're playing Ohio State 699 00:38:54,320 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: this week. Illinois was last week. And then he recovered 700 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: and said this, obviously, you know, we're trying to be 701 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: focused on Illinois and talking about Illinois as much as 702 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: we possibly can. Once again, you play Ohio State, I'd leave, 703 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: I'd leave the Illinois loss behind and move forward. He 704 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: also said that he looked forward to facing Illinois in 705 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: the Big House, which would be interesting because somebody should 706 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: let in Michigan know that Illinois and Penn State are 707 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: going to play in the Big House. Yeah, they don't 708 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: rent out the Big I don't think they do well. 709 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: Maybe for a concert, but I don't want to those 710 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: hockey matches. Oh yeah, that's right, Yeah, yes MC. To 711 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: be fair, the Illinois game was really really long. I 712 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: can see why it. Oh yeah, nine over times. May 713 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: he's still caught in your head. Yeah, I didn't feel 714 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: like you were in the moment their coach, Yeah, Seeton. 715 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't know who's doing play by play for Ohio 716 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: State Penn State. But welcome to the Big Welcome to 717 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: the horseshoe. Yeah, yeah, the Illinois buck. He's facing Penn State. Yes, time, 718 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: is it possible? He meant you still focusing on what 719 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: happened in that crazy Illinois game and how they can 720 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: get past that and move forward and make up for 721 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: whatever mistakes they made in that game. I don't know. 722 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: I think I would be mentioning Ohio State. I would 723 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: want to move on from that game. Yeah, I m cleb. 724 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: The irony is he wasn't focused on Illinois at all. 725 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: He was clearly game prepping for Ohio State the last 726 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: two weeks. They slept walk into that game. Yeah. So 727 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: we have Mike Tomlin when he answers the question, James 728 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: Franklin not so much two different ways to answer, you know, 729 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: rumor and speculation. Yeah, you know, I'm just focused on Illinois. 730 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: H huh. Yeah. Boy, if I were Illinois football, though, 731 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: I'd be worried. He coach Franklin's already focused on next 732 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: year's game and he's going to open up a camp. Yeah. Yeah, 733 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: yess where they're like, yeah, living rent free in your head. 734 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: I still gotta let's right, Tom Franklin. Yeah, and you 735 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: have it on the same day as Mike Tomlin has 736 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: his press conference. It's like there's a joke. Not interested, yeah, 737 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: which they never? Never? Which one of these guys sounds 738 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: like they're interested in the USC job. Who sounds like 739 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna be with their current job next year? Ye, 740 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: not saying, just saying, and ask this question many times. 741 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: I like you direct you to my new agent I 742 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: just hired yesterday. Just coincidental, Oh, I know. And when 743 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: I was told that on Monday, I said, wait, wait, 744 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: many he hired Jimmy Sexton. What's that mean. M He's 745 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: going to leverage the hell out of this with Bens 746 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: Dagg and he's very influential in the SEC. I go, 747 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: all right, means a couple of extra zeros, Yeah, added 748 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: to the check. I already know where we're headed here, 749 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: but i'd focus from you know, as I told you yesterday, 750 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: my source said that, you know, James Franklin season is 751 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: sort of teetering on the brink according to my source, 752 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: and some people at USC have cooled on him. Whatever 753 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: that means. This is such a long process, and that's 754 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: why I hate bringing up names, because I do want 755 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: to be fair and be journalistically responsible, But when a 756 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: name keeps coming up and Carson Palmer is the one 757 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: who brought up Mike Tomlin. I didn't. I even asked 758 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: my source. After Carson said that, I text him. I said, 759 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, USC goes, I just heard him on your show. 760 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: He goes, No, I haven't heard Mike Tomlin with USC. 761 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: But that was it, because I think everybody was surprised. 762 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: But that's on the wish list. That's all. Doesn't mean 763 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: it's based in reality. But if I'm Penn State and 764 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: James Franklin, yeah, better beat Ohio State. You don't want 765 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: to be the travel agent where you go A coach 766 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: wants us to go to the big House this weekend. 767 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: We're facing Illinois. No, we're going to Columbus. We're facing 768 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: the Ohio State. 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