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Speaker 4: time in the past three years, the Cardinals will go
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Speaker 4: time head coach. It is a homecoming. Jonathan Gannon is
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Speaker 4: a former Browns player and former opponent of the Browns
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Speaker 4: a little bit later. The tight end extraordinary coming off
Speaker 4: week eight. But wolf do tell what was it? Once
Speaker 4: upon a time you did it triggered the dog Pound, Paully.
Speaker 1: It was truly incredible. It was the very first regular
Speaker 1: season an NFL game I ever played in on the
Speaker 1: road against the Cleveland Browns and the dog Pound, and
Speaker 1: we were standing in our own head zone and it
Speaker 1: was a two minute time out, and suddenly there were
Speaker 1: these dog bones that were coming down, you know, there's
Speaker 1: one and they were sticking into the ground because we
Speaker 1: had this massive deluge, and suddenly there they are these
Speaker 1: dog biscuits, and I'm like, people are throwing dog biscuits.
Speaker 1: I grabbed it and I turned around and threw the
Speaker 1: thing right into the dog Pound and Paulie, every dude
Speaker 1: every veteran in the huddles A don't. And I remember
Speaker 1: letting that thing go where I was looking at him
Speaker 1: like what what you know? And Paul, we got showered
Speaker 1: with dog bones. We won the game in overtime. It
Speaker 1: was incredible. But yeah, that place, I got a lot
Speaker 1: of good memories and bad memories are all right.
Speaker 4: Rookie mistake, a very unique rookie mistake. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 4: that's kind of foreshadowing because we have another potential first
Speaker 4: time ever starter in the NFL. We'll get to that.
Speaker 4: It's a process here because the NFL, even though we're
Speaker 4: only what four days into the week five if you
Speaker 4: count game day Sunday, where we heard Jonathan Gannon named
Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs his starter for week nine, Well, guess what
Speaker 4: things are subject to change? And then by the next morning, well,
Speaker 4: you had a new order in the QB room on
Speaker 4: the depth chart where Josh Dobbs was demoted to number
Speaker 4: three and would either be Clayton too in the rookie
Speaker 4: or the franchise quarterback Kyler Murray as your starter. But
Speaker 4: by Tuesday morning, Wolf keep up here another twenty four
Speaker 4: hours later and come the trade deadline, guess what Josh
Speaker 4: Dobbs was a member of the Minnesota Vikings. He was
Speaker 4: traded along with a conditional seventh round pick and returned
Speaker 4: for a sixth round pick, which led the head coach
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon to tell the media this.
Speaker 6: Just want to thank Josh for his contributions. You know,
Speaker 6: if he came in battled, he's an ultimate pro what
Speaker 6: he did for us and our team can't thank him enough.
Speaker 6: Josh is excited for the opportunity to go to Minnesota
Speaker 6: and go play. We're excited for him.
Speaker 4: And he might play. He might play as soon as
Speaker 4: this week. We'll see what they're gonna do the Vikings.
Speaker 4: Why why do you think Josh Dobbs ultimately wolf in hindsight?
Speaker 1: Now, yes, he.
Speaker 4: Had a few days of process. So why do you
Speaker 4: think he's a member of the Vikings?
Speaker 1: Because I think the Minnesota Vikings looked at it and said, man,
Speaker 1: we got to find a guy that's got some type
Speaker 1: of experience, some type of experience here. And I know
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs doesn't have a huge folder of experience, but
Speaker 1: I do know that this year he's actually got some
Speaker 1: experience on tape. Of course, playing in these games for
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. The's eight games right here. So the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings have something recently that they can look at
Speaker 1: and they can say, man, we like this and we
Speaker 1: like that right here. And I honestly believe it was
Speaker 1: also because Josh Dobbs is so smart. I think I
Speaker 1: think the Minnesota Vikings belief they can bring him up
Speaker 1: there and throw him out there this Sunday based on
Speaker 1: an offense that they're going to trim down with a
Speaker 1: game plan, of course, but I think they think he's
Speaker 1: going to be able to play. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: really a testament to the intelligence of Josh Stopps.
Speaker 4: And you know what with Kyler Murray coming back in
Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs not being part of the immediate future, then
Speaker 4: guess what. You traded away a fifth round pick to
Speaker 4: get him. If you can get a six round pick
Speaker 4: in return, you know, it's almost like a rental and
Speaker 4: you get your deposit back right on, Josh Doabbs. So
Speaker 4: if you're GM Mantiyasi fort okay, you get something in return,
Speaker 4: then you go ahead and re sign Jeff Driscoll to
Speaker 4: the practice squad so you have that third quarterback just
Speaker 4: in case Kyler Murray is not going this week. We
Speaker 4: don't know as of yet, and all we know is
Speaker 4: it's down to either Kyler Murray or Clayton Tune. And
Speaker 4: here's what the offensive coordinator, Drew Petsing had to say
Speaker 4: this week on Kyler if he goes and just you know,
Speaker 4: ramping it up on a short term basis.
Speaker 7: There are so many different aspects of it from an
Speaker 7: operational standpoint, from a decision making standpoint, from getting in
Speaker 7: and out of the huddle. You know, iking it. It'd
Speaker 7: be like someone going to play a regular season game
Speaker 7: on July twenty eighth, and you know, realistically, that's I mean,
Speaker 7: he's that's how many practices he's had essentially, so you know,
Speaker 7: getting him up speak, getting him onny go that that's
Speaker 7: a big task. But when he's ready to go, he's
Speaker 7: gonna be out there.
Speaker 4: Right we and during the media portion of practice we've
Speaker 4: seen him out there the last couple of days now.
Speaker 4: He's been throwing to practice squad receivers in tight ends.
Speaker 4: So you can draw your own conclusion on that based
Speaker 4: on what we've seen. But Wolf, how do you weigh
Speaker 4: this season coming in on short notice in two or
Speaker 4: three weeks practice time versus four years of experience and
Speaker 4: being a starter from day one ever since he was
Speaker 4: a rookie twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that that really is to me. Once again.
Speaker 1: You got to talk about Kyler Murray being in this
Speaker 1: offense and it is a different offense obviously. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think and Tune, PAULI, this is just me the gut
Speaker 1: feeling here, and then Clayton Tune is going to be
Speaker 1: the starter of course going forward right now, unless something
Speaker 1: happens drastically, I think Clayton Tune is going to be
Speaker 1: the starter. I think Kyler Murray will Maybe this is
Speaker 1: just me, but maybe get something situationally. Nobody's told me that, Paul.
Speaker 1: This is just my gut feeling. I've been talking about
Speaker 1: it for the last couple of weeks. Right now, would
Speaker 1: there be anything wrong with actually bringing Kyler Murray in
Speaker 1: situationally and actually playing him to kind of ease his
Speaker 1: way into coming back. I don't think there would be.
Speaker 1: That's my own opinion. Nobody has told me that right now.
Speaker 1: But it's going to be interesting to see. I've wanted
Speaker 1: to see Clayton Tune get the opportunity to go out
Speaker 1: in a regular season game and face regular season defenses
Speaker 1: and see how he does. So I'm very interested with that.
Speaker 4: All right, Speaking of Clayton tune, here's Jonathan Gannon on
Speaker 4: how he has kept the fifth on rookie ready to go.
Speaker 6: Drew and is have done a great job with him
Speaker 6: as far as you know, those guys have to spend
Speaker 6: a little extra time. He does things behind the scenes
Speaker 6: with those guys that get some mental reps and you
Speaker 6: know the communications standpoint of it, even just learning football
Speaker 6: defense is different. NFL is different than college, so you
Speaker 6: know things that you know Kyler might know, Clayton might
Speaker 6: not know.
Speaker 4: Right, So there's the known and unknown. You got a
Speaker 4: fifth round rookie potentially making his first career start. There's
Speaker 4: a lot to find out, there's no doubt. Here's what
Speaker 4: we do know. We got a lot of action in
Speaker 4: the preseason. He got a lot of action at Minnesota
Speaker 4: and the joint practices against Brian Flores's first team defense.
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of snaps. Wolf, You saw every
Speaker 4: one of them. You were standing right there. Brian Flores
Speaker 4: did dial up a few different things, so he kind
Speaker 4: of got a regular season ish type look, even though
Speaker 4: he wasn't being tackled to the ground. But you also
Speaker 4: saw him extend a lot of plays, did he not.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a lot more mole than most people
Speaker 4: might figure.
Speaker 1: He really is. Pully he watching Clayton Tune. That was
Speaker 1: something that you and I both looked at when we're
Speaker 1: up there watching the joint practices and said, man, this
Speaker 1: guy really can't run. Does a good job. He's a
Speaker 1: much better athlete than most people give him credit for.
Speaker 1: But Clayton Tune can I can I tell you that.
Speaker 1: I believe he really does represent where most teams want
Speaker 1: to go in the National Football League by blending the
Speaker 1: old offensive traditions and the new schemes that are out there.
Speaker 1: I think Clayton Tune is one of those guys Pully
Speaker 1: that can do it, a guy that you can put
Speaker 1: under center, a guy that will be okay in the pocket,
Speaker 1: taking a three step drop and throwing the ball, taking
Speaker 1: a five step drop, a seventh step with play action
Speaker 1: coming off of it, getting into the shotgun and running
Speaker 1: all of the shotgun stuff, the RPOs in his own reads,
Speaker 1: and getting into pistol and doing it all. I really
Speaker 1: do believe that Clayton Tune and he did a lot
Speaker 1: of it actually in college as well. But I do
Speaker 1: believe PAULI, this is a guy that embodies where most
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators want to go with offensive football moving forward
Speaker 1: in the National Football League.
Speaker 4: You know, after he was drafted, we had we had
Speaker 4: Clayton Tune here on the Big Red Rage, and I
Speaker 4: asked him about what scheme he had been in at Houston,
Speaker 4: presuming it was an air raid to spread. He said, no,
Speaker 4: his last couple of years it was more of a
Speaker 4: traditional NFL type offense. So yes, he has experience in both.
Speaker 4: To your point, here's what else I'll say. In addition
Speaker 4: to extending the plays, I think we can presume the
Speaker 4: Cardinals now have a more accurate quarterback versus Josh Dobbs. Now, look,
Speaker 4: there was a lot to like with Josh Doabbs. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, he did a lot to make plays. The
Speaker 4: first four games he had zero picks, But his last
Speaker 4: four starts against for the Cardinals, he had five picks
Speaker 4: and they were all very costly, and the two against
Speaker 4: Baltimore very costly. A seven to seven game became twenty
Speaker 4: one to seven. Even Brock Purdy had no picks over
Speaker 4: his five games. He was five and zero. He's had
Speaker 4: five picks in his last three games. He's lost all three.
Speaker 4: Those interceptions will lose you games. And I think the
Speaker 4: Cardinals accuracy from the quarterback spot just improved, even though
Speaker 4: he's never made a career start.
Speaker 1: That's why, frankly, Paul I was a little surprised when
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings were all over Josh Dobbs because if you
Speaker 1: look at tape the last three games in particular, he
Speaker 1: had a quarterback rating of sixty eight. Yeah in those
Speaker 1: three games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, he had that brig
Speaker 4: in the three before this last week. He was under
Speaker 4: sixty in all three of those games. And after the
Speaker 4: second interception, his passer rating was twenty five, and then
Speaker 4: he had a furious fourth quarter. So we'll see. I
Speaker 4: mean it's either that or the Vikings were left with
Speaker 4: their own fifth round. Rookie and Jaren Hall. Hey, Cardinals Focus, Saturday,
Speaker 4: eight thirty twelve News. We'll get you ready for this
Speaker 4: Cardinals and Browns matchup. In fact, we'll continue. Trey McBride
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Speaker 4: second and goal from the seventh Clayton tune a long
Speaker 4: snap Pount in the gun, snapped short set looking into
Speaker 4: the end zone.
Speaker 1: Crolls got his man Dade and Davis.
Speaker 4: Back of the end zone, touchdown. Cargals right on the
Speaker 4: Buddy incenst.
Speaker 3: For sins and that is a great broke right there
Speaker 3: by Clinton.
Speaker 1: Jim.
Speaker 2: Cover zero brings the house, great answer, balls coming out
Speaker 2: cross the space, anticipation.
Speaker 4: Everything you need to see we saw right there by
Speaker 4: Clinton too. You know I forgot about that. That's trusten
Speaker 4: there from the preseason, the debut against Denver and a
Speaker 4: cover zero as vance. Joseph was indeed dialing it up
Speaker 4: in that preseason game and Clayton tune did get some looks,
Speaker 4: some exotic looks where they were bringing numbers, and he
Speaker 4: excelled at times because we all think about the last
Speaker 4: impression he left in the preseason where he missed the
Speaker 4: blitz off the edge, the dB blitz right and he
Speaker 4: was looking the wrong way, and then this strip sack
Speaker 4: and was very costly, even though he rebounded into that
Speaker 4: Minnesota game. Very next play when the Cardinals got back
Speaker 4: on offense was a twenty yard completion to Greg Derch.
Speaker 4: But interesting to note there Clayton Tune if indeed he's
Speaker 4: tracking to be the starter. On Sunday, it's the Big
Speaker 4: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Trey McBride.
Speaker 4: Our guest coming up, Paul Calvec and Ron Wolfley and
Speaker 4: and wolf I'll stop talking here from a minute, and
Speaker 4: you talk about Clayton tune and just how much you
Speaker 4: think the preseason is gonna matter now that he gets
Speaker 4: a regular season start, because we all know August is
Speaker 4: vastly different from September, October, November, December.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about it, PAULI. It's very, very tough.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be anything like what he saw
Speaker 1: in preseason right now, especially when you're talking about the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns defense, their defense, their pass defense in particular,
Speaker 1: you're talking about the number one pass defense in the
Speaker 1: National Football League in terms of yards per game allowed
Speaker 1: and number six in terms of yards per play allowed.
Speaker 1: So not only are they really really good defensively with
Speaker 1: their covered schemes and buttoned up on the back end,
Speaker 1: but on the front end they'll get after you as well.
Speaker 1: They're number three in sacks per attempt and Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, Paul, the number one third down defense in
Speaker 1: the league. What does it take BALI to have great
Speaker 1: third down defense? You better have a pass rush and
Speaker 1: you better be button up on the backside. So Clayton
Speaker 1: Tune is going to get a huge sample size of
Speaker 1: what it means to be the best defense against the
Speaker 1: pass in this league. He's going to see it face
Speaker 1: to face.
Speaker 4: Here's another one I just found in the Cleveland defense.
Speaker 4: They have the best three and out rate through eight
Speaker 4: games since two thousand. Think about that.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 4: They have forced a greater rate of three and outs
Speaker 4: by offenses than anyone in more than two decades. That
Speaker 4: was probably that Ravens team the year two thousand and
Speaker 4: at home, Cleveland has just been money. They're three and
Speaker 4: one at home. They have allowed less than thirteen points
Speaker 4: per game. So yeah, it's certainly a challenge, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, though, he apparently has the mentality and
Speaker 4: mindset and demeanor to handle this sort of pressure in
Speaker 4: his first career start. Just listen to what d J.
Speaker 4: Humphreys had to say this week about the rookie Clayton Tune.
Speaker 8: Clayton is he commands the huddle, how he looks, you know,
Speaker 8: he just looked like I went through it.
Speaker 1: Man, you touchdown?
Speaker 8: You want me to tell you like, that's that's that's
Speaker 8: kind of his vib So, I mean, I enjoy it.
Speaker 8: I love picking with him and kind of getting a
Speaker 8: little fire out of him because he's so cool and
Speaker 8: collecting and it's he's I'm a big fan of Clayton
Speaker 8: as well.
Speaker 1: It's just his his demeanor and how carry your stuff.
Speaker 8: It's super cool to me to see a young guy
Speaker 8: with that type of confidence and understanding and being able
Speaker 8: to be his selfless around everyone else.
Speaker 4: That's Steve Jeffries right there. I was talking to one
Speaker 4: of Clayton Tune's teammates in the locker room. He said,
Speaker 4: if I didn't already know he was from Texas, I
Speaker 4: think Clayton Tune was from SoCal because he's kind of
Speaker 4: got that Carson Palmer chill about him. So hopefully maybe
Speaker 4: that sets him up well for Sunday. Considering it because
Speaker 4: the last Cardinals quarterback to win their first career start
Speaker 4: care to guests, Ron Wolfley, this is your trivia question
Speaker 4: here on the Big Red Rage, as we await Trey
Speaker 4: mcbriden a little bit last Cardinals quarterback and when their
Speaker 4: first career start John Skelton. Two tens big bread Cardinals
Speaker 4: quarterbacks ever since an O four and one that one
Speaker 4: would be Kyler Murray's tie in his debut against Detroit
Speaker 4: his rookie year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you also have to remember too, it
Speaker 1: was Clayton Tuone who after the draft right said that
Speaker 1: he felt like he was the best quarterback in this
Speaker 1: draft and he meant it. Now, I will tell you
Speaker 1: he since has backed off that. And we talked to
Speaker 1: him pauly as a matter of fact, and he was
Speaker 1: talking about how the fact that you know, that's really
Speaker 1: not who he is. He does believe it, but he
Speaker 1: doesn't like sharing it with others. He didn't feel like
Speaker 1: he wanted to share it with others, and yet he
Speaker 1: did so. For me, he's got an awful lot of confidence.
Speaker 1: That is the one thing about Clayton Tune. He's got
Speaker 1: confidence that he can go out and do the job.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times that's great, you've got to
Speaker 1: just go back it up. You don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it, and Clayton is certainly not a talker. He's
Speaker 1: a guy that wants to go back it up.
Speaker 4: You know what else he has as a rookie is
Speaker 4: a run game, A stout run game. Cardinals are top
Speaker 4: four hundred and thirty eight yards per game as an offense,
Speaker 4: number two in yards per carry as a rushing offense
Speaker 4: five point one yards per carry. They lead the league
Speaker 4: in twenty plus yard runs with thirteen. So that's always
Speaker 4: a benefit, right. A quarterback's best friend the run game,
Speaker 4: and hey, if they go out and they run at
Speaker 4: thirty plus times, I don't think anybody will be surprised
Speaker 4: at Cleveland. Here's Clayton Tune at his locker yesterday meeting
Speaker 4: the media, and the question was just about what sort
Speaker 4: of challenges he think he might face in his first start.
Speaker 9: Just staying even keeled, staying in the moment, don't get
Speaker 9: too high, don't get too low. Obviously there's ebbs and
Speaker 9: flows through every game, so just remain constant and you know,
Speaker 9: keep everyone on that same level.
Speaker 4: Here's what else I think he has going for Himolf.
Speaker 4: You're gonna agree or disagree, and I know you will.
Speaker 4: He's been running the scout team for two months against
Speaker 4: the cardinals number one defense. Yeah, so in some ways
Speaker 4: I get it. Nothing's gonna replicate regular season, full contact,
Speaker 4: full speed football. But he has been going against the
Speaker 4: Cardinals ones for a couple of months, so hopefully that
Speaker 4: goes a long way towards getting him ready for this opportunity.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm not saying it's not going to poly
Speaker 1: but as you've already said, man, going up to Cleveland
Speaker 1: and playing up there against the Browns in a regular
Speaker 1: season game, against that defense, especially that pass defense, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a whole new situation for Clayton Tune. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's any way you could get him ready
Speaker 1: based on practice, if you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: And for me right now, it's gonna be a tough
Speaker 1: road for Clayton Tune. But I'm very to see him
Speaker 1: because of his versatility. We were talking a little bit
Speaker 1: about this earlier in the show, just his versatility in
Speaker 1: terms of being able to go under center and be
Speaker 1: comfortable with the package and plays that you're gonna run
Speaker 1: under center. You could put him in the shotgun as well,
Speaker 1: you can put him in the pistol. He can do
Speaker 1: everything you need to do. It's one of the things
Speaker 1: that we marveled at during training camp just watching him
Speaker 1: and in the preseason as well, just how well he
Speaker 1: was able to blend all of those formations together, and
Speaker 1: also too physically, the touch that he would have on
Speaker 1: the ball is well, he's got a great arm. He's
Speaker 1: got a strong arm. I wouldn't say it's a cannon,
Speaker 1: but it's a strong arm. And yet he's got this
Speaker 1: velvety touch on it as well. I'm I'm expecting good
Speaker 1: things from Clayton, Tom Paul.
Speaker 4: He trusts that arm too. We found that early, even
Speaker 4: in the off season. A lot of the guys out there,
Speaker 4: even Rookie Minichamp, they'll he does not hesitate to put
Speaker 4: that ball into tight windows. He trusts his arm, and
Speaker 4: he likes to think he has enough accuracy to beat
Speaker 4: corners and beat defenders even if his receivers only opened
Speaker 4: by a few inches. So, I mean, that's something there,
Speaker 4: really that has been signature about his game. What a
Speaker 4: lot of people might not realize is that Drew Petsing
Speaker 4: until this season, has spent the last eight years with
Speaker 4: Kevin Stefanski, and so the Cardinals offensive scheme is very
Speaker 4: similar to the Browns offensive scheme. Now, what does it
Speaker 4: look like this Cardinals offense with Clayton Tune because we
Speaker 4: all figure it's going to look different when Kyler Murray
Speaker 4: comes back, at least to a certain degree. There's gonna
Speaker 4: be certain things where they cater to that particular quarterback.
Speaker 4: So I don't know you care to surmise, Wolf, I
Speaker 4: mean where and how do you think this Cardinals offense
Speaker 4: might look different than we've seen it all because Josh
Speaker 4: Dobbs has started and played all eight games so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're going to see an awful lot
Speaker 1: of Clayton Tune under center. I think you're going to
Speaker 1: see him under center a lot, I would say with
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, depending on whether or not Deshaun Watson is
Speaker 1: going to play. He's a guy that the Browns want
Speaker 1: to stick under center as well. But Clayton Tune is
Speaker 1: a guy, when compared to Kyler Murray, that you would
Speaker 1: like to actually have under center, maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: more than Kyler. So that's what I expect our offense
Speaker 1: to do is go out there and get into twelve,
Speaker 1: get into thirteen personnel, and use Clayton Tune under center
Speaker 1: where you can run it and use play action to
Speaker 1: throw it.
Speaker 4: I also wonder if Brown's defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz is
Speaker 4: a super veteran of this league. Dials it up for
Speaker 4: the sake of dialing it up. Just because there is
Speaker 4: a rookie making his first career start, does he get
Speaker 4: more exotic than he ever would typically just because you
Speaker 4: have a rookie, he hasn't seen a lot in the league.
Speaker 4: You know what, that's a good question for Trey McBride
Speaker 4: because he's part of the pass protection game as well.
Speaker 4: We'll ask him next. This is the Big Red Rage
Speaker 4: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santane Ford.
Speaker 3: Setting up a screen, throwing all over the middle that's caught,
Speaker 3: and then how about McBride after the catch, hurtling a
Speaker 3: defender at the twenty. It's a nineteen yard game for
Speaker 3: Trey McBride to the fifteen yard line.
Speaker 5: Trey McBride going airborne.
Speaker 1: Man. You just see the athleticism of Trey McBride.
Speaker 3: Throws across the middle and it's caught inside the five
Speaker 3: yard line by McBride fighting for the first down at
Speaker 3: the two. He's still pushing the pile and he pushes
Speaker 3: it into the end zone.
Speaker 10: Put it dust down.
Speaker 3: Trey McBride all muscle driving the defense into the end
Speaker 3: zone for the Star.
Speaker 5: You might watch tape for the next twenty years and
Speaker 5: never see a play like this run again, unbelievable. He
Speaker 5: gets stood up in the offensive line, breaks to the
Speaker 5: ball and push pushes Frey McBride is.
Speaker 4: The caption on that video should read, You're not the
Speaker 4: bossomme Baltimore defense. Everyone wants to play quarterback. Hardly anyone
Speaker 4: will other experience what it's like to be at the
Speaker 4: epicenter of a tush push, But as a tight end,
Speaker 4: the ever rare tight end who actually experience that? Ron Wolfley,
Speaker 4: our special guest is here Trey McBride, second year Cardinals
Speaker 4: tight end on the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan
Speaker 4: Ford and Gilbert. How many times think you've been asked
Speaker 4: about that play in the last four or five days?
Speaker 10: Tray, Yeah, it's it's been surreal, you know, just seeing
Speaker 10: how many people, you know, how much tension that got.
Speaker 10: But most of all, it was just crazy. I can't
Speaker 10: believe they didn't blow that thing dead. I thought that,
Speaker 10: you know, they were gonna blow it dead. I kept
Speaker 10: pushing my feet, kept pushing my feet, and you know,
Speaker 10: I felt that second surge from the big ol'd lineman,
Speaker 10: and once I felt that surge, I knew we were
Speaker 10: getting in there. So, yeah, that was a crazy play.
Speaker 10: I'm glad we got in there, though.
Speaker 1: Now try I've got to ask you this right now,
Speaker 1: you know what. I was glad you got in there
Speaker 1: as well. But I got to ask you this. Tell
Speaker 1: me about Fort Morgan, Colorado. That's where you were, That's
Speaker 1: where you grew up. Tell me about Fort Morgan, Man,
Speaker 1: what's that like?
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, small town grew up, it's you know,
Speaker 10: about ten thousand people. You know, you know, every single
Speaker 10: person that lives in the town where they grew up,
Speaker 10: where they're, what their parents do, everything about them. But
Speaker 10: it was it was a special place. We had nothing
Speaker 10: to do but play sports. I played basketball, I played baseball,
Speaker 10: played football, and that's what we did all year round,
Speaker 10: twenty four to seven. We'd go down to the park
Speaker 10: play play all the sports in the world and did
Speaker 10: that all year round.
Speaker 1: It was a blast.
Speaker 4: At what point in high school did you realize, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm a football player or were you still telling yourself baseball,
Speaker 4: basketball and way in all three?
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I think it was it took a while.
Speaker 10: I was really teetering on all the sports. I had
Speaker 10: offers for baseball, had offers for basketball, and then the
Speaker 10: other thing was just I was like, man, I think
Speaker 10: I want to go play football. My brother was already
Speaker 10: committed to Colorado State, and I was like, I think
Speaker 10: this is kind of my best best choice, you know,
Speaker 10: I want to go play D one play football with
Speaker 10: my brother, and that's what I ultimately decided.
Speaker 1: So you had offers to go play for baseball and
Speaker 1: advance your career basketball, you had offers for that.
Speaker 10: Yeah they were you know, mostly small Division one sure
Speaker 10: or Division two, but but yeah, definitely had an opportunity
Speaker 10: to play in any sport I wanted in college, which
Speaker 10: was cool.
Speaker 1: All right. In baseball, what did you play though?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I was a I was a catcher growing up,
Speaker 10: and then once I got to once I got to
Speaker 10: about sophomore year high school, I switched to first base.
Speaker 10: I was tired of, you know, my knees were starting
Speaker 10: to hurt a little bit getting down that catcher's position.
Speaker 10: So I went to first base where I could just
Speaker 10: stand there and catch the ball. It was really easy,
Speaker 10: and most of all, you know, I was a powerful hitter,
Speaker 10: So that was that.
Speaker 1: Was a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have the school record and home runs at
Speaker 4: Fort Morgan High School. You know you should chop it
Speaker 4: up with your head coach. Because Jonathan Gannon is a
Speaker 4: Cleveland native, you guys are gonna have to walk through
Speaker 4: on Saturday at his alma mater, Santa in Naitius High School.
Speaker 4: So he is an all state dbat, plus he played receiver.
Speaker 4: He was all stayed in basketball. He hit a game
Speaker 4: winning free throw to win a state title, and he
Speaker 4: also ran the hurdles, believe it or not. So you
Speaker 4: know you got to go in there and flex a
Speaker 4: little bit on the three sports star stuff from high
Speaker 4: school days with your head coach.
Speaker 10: Yeah, no doubt, that's really cool. I didn't know all
Speaker 10: that about him. That's really cool. I have to chop
Speaker 10: it up with him about that. That's awesome.
Speaker 4: So tell us about the way your head coach has
Speaker 4: used you, especially the last couple of games, because all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you're a fantasy football favorite. Trey McBride.
Speaker 4: You got fourteen targets in Wolf. Here's the stats, and
Speaker 4: if Trey doesn't know this, your ten catches are the
Speaker 4: most for a Cardinals tight end in team history, and
Speaker 4: your ninety five receiving yards are the most for a
Speaker 4: Cardinals tight end since nineteen eighty nine since Wolf's former
Speaker 4: teammate Rob Awalt. Wow, So what you did in this
Speaker 4: last game was his historic. Just tell us about how
Speaker 4: you're being used now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it just kind of comes with opportunity.
Speaker 10: I've kind of been preparing, kind of been doing everything
Speaker 10: the same way each and every week. But really, I think,
Speaker 10: you know, obviously with zach on Ir, I've gotten a
Speaker 10: little bit more opportunity, and that's been that's been great,
Speaker 10: you know, just getting the passes I can getting thrown
Speaker 10: to me, and building that chemistry with the quarterbacks, building
Speaker 10: the chemistry with the coaches that they can trust that
Speaker 10: they can put the ball in my hand. And then
Speaker 10: most of all, when I get that you know, third
Speaker 10: and five, you know, when I get a five yard catch,
Speaker 10: I turned that into ten yards. That's kind of what
Speaker 10: I'm trying to do, is turn small catches into big
Speaker 10: yards and things like that. And I continue doing that
Speaker 10: and ultimately I've been getting a little more opportunity.
Speaker 1: Trey, where is your confidence level right now? Would you
Speaker 1: say your confidence level right now is as high as
Speaker 1: it's been since you've come into the league.
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, you know, I feel like just having that opportunity,
Speaker 10: getting able, knowing that I can catch, you know, ten
Speaker 10: balls in a game, now, knowing I can put up
Speaker 10: one hundred yards in a game, things like that, just
Speaker 10: building that confidence. It kind of feels like I'm back
Speaker 10: in college again, you know what it felt like the
Speaker 10: last couple of weeks. So it's been fun, it's been
Speaker 10: it's been good. But at the same time, I got
Speaker 10: to be consistent, got to keep doing it week in
Speaker 10: and week out to show these guys that it's not
Speaker 10: just here and there thing.
Speaker 4: So over the past three games, you have one hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty six receiving yards, which is fourth most by
Speaker 4: any NFL tight end since weeks. Think about that, and then,
Speaker 4: of course the kap Ra was that game against Baltimore.
Speaker 4: Here's your head coach, Jonathan Gannon on your performance.
Speaker 6: He played fantastic. He had a heck of a game,
Speaker 6: made plays when his number was called, make some big
Speaker 6: time catches, really good blocker. Really not surprised he's been
Speaker 6: coming along. He hasn't been improving his game every day,
Speaker 6: and he had a really good game.
Speaker 4: We'll get back to the seventeen yard touchdown catch where
Speaker 4: he had a lot of help from your three hundred
Speaker 4: pound friends. But there was a catch you didn't make
Speaker 4: at a high degree of difficulty, and man, were you
Speaker 4: frustrated with yourself on the sideline. Just tell us about
Speaker 4: that moment.
Speaker 10: Yeah, gosh, man, I know I can make that play.
Speaker 1: That's what frustrated me.
Speaker 10: I was just a drop guy hit my arm right
Speaker 10: when I had the ball and just frustrated me because
Speaker 10: I know I can make that play. You know, nine
Speaker 10: out of ten times I make that play. In that
Speaker 10: one time he got me. So I was just more
Speaker 10: frustrated with myself and I was glad that the didn't
Speaker 10: let that affect my game. And you know, I was
Speaker 10: able to have a couple or catches after that, But ultimately,
Speaker 10: you know that I just I feel like I can
Speaker 10: catch every ball, and when I don't, I get real,
Speaker 10: real frustrated at myself sometimes.
Speaker 1: Trey, what is your weight at right now? Yeah?
Speaker 10: Way about two forty five. You know, I kind of
Speaker 10: teeter between two forty and two fifty, but I'm kind
Speaker 10: of right around that two forty five range.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I like you at two six now. I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding, just kidding. Your blocking is getting better, and
Speaker 1: Jag even was commenting on that as well. This is
Speaker 1: really important to me because I see you as a
Speaker 1: stud tight end. I've talked to you about this in
Speaker 1: the past. I see you as a stud tight end,
Speaker 1: as a why a guy that can line up on
Speaker 1: the hip of the tackle and right on the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and come off the ball and attack at
Speaker 1: the point of attack and hold up and be a
Speaker 1: George Kittle if you will. And yet I see you
Speaker 1: also as a guy that can move and be that
Speaker 1: weapon offensively here. But do you see yourself as a
Speaker 1: stud tight ad?
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I feel like I can. I can
Speaker 10: put my hand in the dirt and I can I
Speaker 10: can make plays in the run game as well.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 10: I think that's a huge part of being a tight
Speaker 10: end is being able to block. And I think that's
Speaker 10: what's really helped me in the past game is his
Speaker 10: run action. These run action plays that we that we
Speaker 10: keep calling up has been wide open for me because
Speaker 10: of that effect that I've had in the run game.
Speaker 10: They have to respect the run, those safeties come down
Speaker 10: and then we can usually hit the big one over
Speaker 10: the top.
Speaker 1: So, Trey, you have a desire to be a better blocker,
Speaker 1: don't you. Yeah?
Speaker 10: Absolutely, you know I think I'm always you got to
Speaker 10: be a good blocker. You got to those guys, you know,
Speaker 10: running running the ball is a huge part of the game,
Speaker 10: So you got to be effective in the run game.
Speaker 10: And if you can have a good run game, your
Speaker 10: pass game is gonna be awesome as well.
Speaker 4: When you've been used as an h back or even
Speaker 4: as a full back in different formations, because we know
Speaker 4: Drew Pets and you know he's very multiple with the
Speaker 4: way he goes about as often. What's that like for you?
Speaker 4: Has there been a learning curve with that?
Speaker 10: No, I mean I did a little bit of that
Speaker 10: in college. I was, you know, played a little fullback
Speaker 10: and stuff in college. So it's not something I specialize in.
Speaker 10: It's not something I do that. But I can definitely
Speaker 10: go in there and block somebody. I can run routes
Speaker 10: from the backfield. I can do things like that, and
Speaker 10: it actually works out really well because sometimes when you
Speaker 10: lined up in the backfield, you get matchups with linebackers,
Speaker 10: and I feel like that's a favorable matchup for me.
Speaker 10: So that's something that I kind of enjoy doing. I've
Speaker 10: been willing to do that and it's really helped our team.
Speaker 1: Try talk to us a little bit about to the
Speaker 1: Browns defense and in particular their past defense.
Speaker 10: They're really good, Yeah, yeah, they are. They're very tough defense.
Speaker 10: They have a very very good up front. You know,
Speaker 10: obviously they have ninety nine Smith from that they traded
Speaker 10: from from the Vikings. They obviously have Miles Garrett who's
Speaker 10: an elite you know player playing at a really high level.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 10: You go their back, their backfield, they got linebackers that
Speaker 10: are fast, a little smaller linebackers, but they play real fast,
Speaker 10: they play hard, and then they got you know, their
Speaker 10: their dbs, they got war, they got their safeties are
Speaker 10: all pros. I mean, they got a lot of really
Speaker 10: good players back there. So it's a very tough defense,
Speaker 10: something that you know a challenge for us, but something
Speaker 10: I'm really looking forward to to, you know, play back
Speaker 10: to back really good defenses and hopefully, you know, put
Speaker 10: up good number.
Speaker 4: Trey McBride is our guest here on The Big Red
Speaker 4: Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert So if rookie
Speaker 4: Clayton Tune is your quarterback on Sunday. Do you think
Speaker 4: that Jim Schwartz defense will dial it up for the
Speaker 4: sake of dialing it up, get exotic just because there
Speaker 4: is a rookie back there trying to show everything except
Speaker 4: the kitchen sink.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I definitely think that's exactly what we're
Speaker 10: expecting to happen. You know, with the rookie quarterback, a
Speaker 10: guy who doesn't have a ton of experience, you're expecting
Speaker 10: a lot of pressure, a lot of different exotic looks,
Speaker 10: different things that he hasn't seen. But at the same time,
Speaker 10: you know, Clayton's been great, he's prepared well. I feel
Speaker 10: like he's very prepared to go in this game. If
Speaker 10: he's the guy that we're going with, he's going to
Speaker 10: be prepared and going to play a great game for us.
Speaker 1: So as you watch tape of the Cleveland Browns, of
Speaker 1: course and their past defense in particular rundown situation first
Speaker 1: in ten second, one to six, what kind of coverages
Speaker 1: are they showing right now?
Speaker 10: Yeah, they have a lot of different things, but they
Speaker 10: really run a lot of single high whether that's man
Speaker 10: demand that you're gonna get or they run a lot
Speaker 10: of Cover three, so you're gonna get a lot of
Speaker 10: single high with a change up of cover two. But
Speaker 10: you're gonna get a lot of single high, a lot
Speaker 10: of different looks. But yeah, it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 10: of fun. They do a lot of different things. Miles
Speaker 10: Garrett's obviously huge point in that off or that defense,
Speaker 10: so we're gonna have to stop him and you know,
Speaker 10: go from there.
Speaker 4: I mean, think of some of the guys you've gone
Speaker 4: against already this year, Micah Parsons, Nick Bosa, right, the
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald's. How often are you asked to chip against
Speaker 4: some of those premier guys.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it feels like every game I'm in
Speaker 10: there chipping or sometimes you know, have those guys in
Speaker 10: past pro. It's not not something I specialize in, but
Speaker 10: something you know, I gotta do every once in a
Speaker 10: while to make sure that we can get the ball downfield.
Speaker 10: You know, if I gotta chip them and slow them
Speaker 10: down to get Hollywood open or someone downfield, that's what
Speaker 10: I'll do. So that's exactly what it's been. And sometimes
Speaker 10: those checkdowns, you know, chip and run a flat. Sometimes
Speaker 10: they sink and that check down, you catch for five yards,
Speaker 10: you can kind of turn into ten fifteen yards every
Speaker 10: once in a while. So something that will do a
Speaker 10: lot this game. It will be fun.
Speaker 1: As you look at some of the edge guys that
Speaker 1: you've played against already, how does Miles Garrett stack up.
Speaker 10: Yeah, no doubt he's He's playing at a very very
Speaker 10: high level. You know, I say he's definitely up there
Speaker 10: at the top. He's playing at an elite level right now.
Speaker 10: He's a stud. He's done a lot of things. He
Speaker 10: plays all over the ball, he plays in linebacker, he
Speaker 10: moves around, he does all kinds of things with him.
Speaker 10: So it's going to be a great matchup. I'm excited
Speaker 10: to see, you know, how we handle him.
Speaker 4: And look, we're going to find out a lot about
Speaker 4: Clayton Tune if indeed he's the guy on Sunday. What
Speaker 4: do you think we know already? For example, I've gone
Speaker 4: around the locker room guys like, hey, he's mobile. Now,
Speaker 4: he can extend plays. You know, what else do you
Speaker 4: think you've seen from his skill set? Because we saw
Speaker 4: a lot of him in August in the preseason as well.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's definitely mobile. He's a guy who can make
Speaker 10: plays with his feet, but he's confident. He throws the
Speaker 10: ball really well, and he's he's got a powerful arm.
Speaker 10: You know, he's a guy who can get the ball downfield.
Speaker 10: He's a guy who's accurate, will throw the ball where
Speaker 10: it needs to be, and he's a leader. I think
Speaker 10: he's done a great job, you know, coordinating the huddle,
Speaker 10: being dominant in the huddle. You know, his canes has
Speaker 10: been great. He feels confident and everything like that. And
Speaker 10: just seeing that from one of his teammates, it's it's
Speaker 10: very promising to see Trey.
Speaker 1: Where do you think your offense needs to improve the most?
Speaker 1: If you could pick one thing where the offense collectively,
Speaker 1: not individually, but collectively needs to.
Speaker 10: Improve, Yeah, I think just executing plays. I think we're
Speaker 10: you know, Drew does a great job of collin plays.
Speaker 10: He does a great job of mixing up run and
Speaker 10: pass and things like that. But I think just executing
Speaker 10: on little things like that, whether it's in pass pro,
Speaker 10: whether it's running the ball, whatever it is, finishing a play.
Speaker 10: We've done a great job in the run game, but
Speaker 10: there's just a little bit left out there that we
Speaker 10: can be better at. There's done a good job in
Speaker 10: the pass game, but there's just more out there that
Speaker 10: we're leaving on the field. So just just having that
Speaker 10: little extra strain each game and continue going, and I
Speaker 10: think it'll be great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Wolf knows we're on doing his TV show this week.
Speaker 4: Jonathan Ganna said, Look, in known pass situations, we have
Speaker 4: to be better when there's no threat of the run
Speaker 4: and they know we're throwing the ball. We got to
Speaker 4: improve in that area. So we'll see if that happens.
Speaker 4: On Sunday. Everyone out there is asking us ask him
Speaker 4: about Kyler Murray. What have you seen about Kyler so far?
Speaker 10: You know, I've seen just a little bit we see
Speaker 10: of him in practice. He's done a great job.
Speaker 1: He's uh.
Speaker 10: He's definitely the same Kyler Murray he was before the
Speaker 10: before the injury. He's fast, he's elite, he throws the
Speaker 10: ball well, and he's uh. He's done a great job
Speaker 10: back there. I'm super excited to as he keeps inching back.
Speaker 10: It's going to be a great time when he gets back.
Speaker 4: And Wolf, I saw where he got the ball back.
Speaker 4: Trey McBride after the rugby scrum touchdown. He threw the
Speaker 4: ball into the stands and the equipment guy's got the
Speaker 4: ball back for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 10: I don't know how they got it. I thought I
Speaker 10: threw that thing into the next stadium over, you know,
Speaker 10: I threw that thing so high. But yeah, those equipment
Speaker 10: guys did a great job got it back for me.
Speaker 10: So I'm excited to take that one home.
Speaker 4: All right, we'll see on the team plane. Enjoyed it,
Speaker 4: Thanks Trey, yere right, thank you there God by the way,
Speaker 4: speaking to Jonathan again and watch Cardinals game plan Friday
Speaker 4: six thirty twelve News. We talked to JG about everything.
Speaker 4: Trey McBride, our special guests. We continue with a big
Speaker 4: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 3: Just so folks out there know we're back here during
Speaker 3: the break trying to come up with all these things
Speaker 3: to say. If Sheldrik red Wine makes him play, we
Speaker 3: are okay. We've got to give full credit to our producer,
Speaker 3: Jimal Mahundro saying if he if he makes a play,
Speaker 3: say that he pressed his grapes or that they bottled
Speaker 3: up red wine.
Speaker 1: Sheldrick red Wine, and what did you say he got corked? Yeah,
Speaker 1: stick a cork at him.
Speaker 3: Red Wine pressed his grapes and he got fermented at
Speaker 3: the thirty yard line. Is what we do during my.
Speaker 5: He was red wine got fermented on that nine route.
Speaker 3: Just so people out there listening, No, this is what
Speaker 3: we do during commercials.
Speaker 4: Well, you don't have to ask play by playman Extraordinaire
Speaker 4: Dave Pash nor our producer Jim Amundro twice to talk wine. Okay,
Speaker 4: I mean these guys like talking and drinking a little
Speaker 4: veno here and there. So Sheldrick red who was a
Speaker 4: Cleveland Brown safety when the Cardinals played the Browns in
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. He's currently on the Cowboys practice squad, so
Speaker 4: he was the subject of much speculation during.
Speaker 1: One of the commercial breaks.
Speaker 4: So you guys are entertaining yourselves if nothing else, right, Wolf.
Speaker 1: He got fermented, Paul up. That was my favorite. All right,
Speaker 1: that was it. There's just so much you can read
Speaker 1: into that, bully.
Speaker 4: So how did the Cardinals bottle up that number two
Speaker 4: rank run game by the Cleveland Browns? That is one
Speaker 4: question we have to pose here and what scares you
Speaker 4: the most before we get to the Cleveland defense and
Speaker 4: we here from Jonathan Gannon, what scares you the most
Speaker 4: about this Brown's offense when you look at.
Speaker 1: It, just how physical they are. Once again, this is very,
Speaker 1: very similar to the Baltimore Ravens and how the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens attack a defense. They're going to be more under center,
Speaker 1: I would imagine Deshaun Watson. I think this is just
Speaker 1: me guessing, but I think he's probably going to be
Speaker 1: right to play on Sunday. I know that he was
Speaker 1: out there throwing during the week. Of course, yesterday was
Speaker 1: out there practicing. So we'll see how that goes with
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. But really doesn't matter, Pelly, because whether it's
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson or whatever quarterback, they're going to run out there.
Speaker 1: To me, right now, it's twelve and it's thirteen personnel.
Speaker 1: This is what they do an awful lot of They're
Speaker 1: in eleven personnel from time to time, but it truly
Speaker 1: is thirteen personnel. It's twenty one personnel as well. Twenty personnel.
Speaker 1: They go with a lot of two back and they
Speaker 1: hammer you. That's what they do. It's very similar to
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, I would say, offensively and even defensively.
Speaker 1: The physicality level on both sides of the ball is ravenesque.
Speaker 4: And they have a heavy screen game, so you know
Speaker 4: the user. Here's the thing. Cleveland is four and three
Speaker 4: despite being minus seven in the turnover ratio. They have
Speaker 4: seventeen giveaways. That's an NFL high. Somehow they've won four
Speaker 4: seven games despite that stat. Now, if you look at
Speaker 4: their defense and you cited everything and it's apped right,
Speaker 4: number one in total D, passing D third down defense.
Speaker 4: But the past two weekends, you know, past two games,
Speaker 4: they've allowed sixty two points in over eight hundred total yards,
Speaker 4: and three games in a row they've given up an
Speaker 4: opening drive touchdown. So we'll see exactly what the Cardinals encounter.
Speaker 4: Here's what Jonathan Gannon knows he's getting in the entire
Speaker 4: Cleveland defense.
Speaker 6: Their whole defense. I mean, you know, coach Schwartz is
Speaker 6: one of the best to ever do it. They're fast, aggressive,
Speaker 6: they got really good players on all three levels. They're
Speaker 6: connected with how they play because it's a little bit
Speaker 6: different style than ours. But they're one of the top
Speaker 6: defenses in the NFL. We got a big challenge ahead.
Speaker 4: And I'll say this week four, Lamar Jackson without six
Speaker 4: starters on offense, right, missing his top two receivers, his
Speaker 4: top two tackles. He went in there when fifteen to
Speaker 4: nineteen at two touchdowns, throwing two touchdowns running. So if
Speaker 4: it's Clayton Tune or Kyler, you know that quarterback run
Speaker 4: game might be effective against the Browns.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I definitely would say you're right on that, Polley.
Speaker 1: I also would say that they haven't been good. This
Speaker 1: is really weird. You've got a defense that is the
Speaker 1: number one defense on third down. Would just say that's
Speaker 1: a big metric. Paull third down and getting off. Their
Speaker 1: third down percentage is number one in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: They give up the least amount of first downs per game,
Speaker 1: number one in first downs allowed. And yet at the
Speaker 1: same time, once you get into the red zone, that's
Speaker 1: where their defense is breaking down. Their number twenty nine
Speaker 1: in in red zone situations, Paul number twenty nine, and
Speaker 1: then number thirty two in goal to go. So just
Speaker 1: the opposite of the Baltimore Ravens, who were number two
Speaker 1: in the red zone and number one in goal to
Speaker 1: go last week. Now of a sudden, you're taking on
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and the Browns are horrible at red
Speaker 1: zone and in gold goal so that's been their problem
Speaker 1: right now. But out on the field, they've been pretty good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know who's really really good is Miles Garrett,
Speaker 4: of course, and he definitely merits a mention. He might
Speaker 4: be your NFL Defensive Player of the Year third in sacks,
Speaker 4: has the most sacks of any player ever before the
Speaker 4: age of twenty eight. He just eclipped what's that guy's name,
Speaker 4: Reggie White. Yeah, he was pretty good. So Miles Garrett
Speaker 4: is a very dynamic player, and he'll come off either
Speaker 4: edge of the Cardinals offensive line. Beyond that, I mean,
Speaker 4: you have a Cleveland defense that really is just known
Speaker 4: for being ultra physical. And we see if the Cardinals
Speaker 4: can run the ball. And once again, we know the
Speaker 4: Browns can run the ball. The last three games they've
Speaker 4: run for one hundred and fifty plus. So well, if
Speaker 4: this game might be done in two and a half
Speaker 4: hours for all we know, if both offenses come out
Speaker 4: there and just commit to the run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing you say that, Pauly, because that's exactly
Speaker 1: what I think we're gonna see. Jerome Forward, of course,
Speaker 1: is a guy, he's questionable, but this is a guy
Speaker 1: that is capable of running the ball. Anytime he got
Speaker 1: a guy who's five ' ten two twenty, I like you.
Speaker 1: I like you immediately, Kareem Hunt as well as a
Speaker 1: guy that we're gonna see. Obviously, Nick Chubb is done
Speaker 1: for the season with that incredibly horrific injury that he's suffered.
Speaker 1: But this is a very good run blocking offensive line
Speaker 1: that the Cleveland Browns have. They're not great in terms
Speaker 1: of pass protection poly as a matter of fact, they're
Speaker 1: not very good at all. They give up an awful
Speaker 1: lot of pressures and they give up some sacks number
Speaker 1: twenty five in sacks per attempt by way of example.
Speaker 1: So they want to run the ball. That's what they are.
Speaker 1: They're number two in number ten, number two in rushing
Speaker 1: yards per game, and number ten and rushing yards per play.
Speaker 1: They're gonna line up and they're gonna attack the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and they're gonna hammer you with power personnel groups.
Speaker 1: This is who they are. And then they'll use the
Speaker 1: power of play action, especially with Deshaun Watson, he's so
Speaker 1: good at it. They'll use that to throw the ball
Speaker 1: and take some shots down the field. But this is
Speaker 1: a run first team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, last week in a win against actually in a loss,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry against Seattle right a game they led twenty
Speaker 4: to seventeen with two minutes to play and lost twenty
Speaker 4: four to twenty. They won time of possession thirty seven
Speaker 4: to twenty three. They went out and ran it forty
Speaker 4: times for a buck fifty five on the ground. And
Speaker 4: to your point, Nick Chubb done for the year. Their
Speaker 4: two time All Pro offensive tackle Jack Conklin a season
Speaker 4: inning knee injury as well. Yet they went out there
Speaker 4: with Kareem Hunt, Preerre Strong Junior and Jerome Ford and
Speaker 4: they had one hundred and thirty seven yards from those
Speaker 4: three running backs. So there's no doubt that's the identity
Speaker 4: of that offense. And if they're trying to protect their
Speaker 4: quarterback Deshaun Watson, then guess what. Here it comes and
Speaker 4: you got to be able to stop it. And we
Speaker 4: saw Gus Edwards have success, we saw the Rams have success,
Speaker 4: and of course Christian McCaffrey have success in the last
Speaker 4: few games against the Cardinals when it comes to running
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