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Speaker 1: He really is. Pully he watching Clayton Tune. That was

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Speaker 4: and wolf I'll stop talking here from a minute, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about it, PAULI. It's very, very tough.

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Speaker 4: That's Steve Jeffries right there. I was talking to one

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Speaker 4: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santane Ford.

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Speaker 3: Setting up a screen, throwing all over the middle that's caught,

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Speaker 3: and then how about McBride after the catch, hurtling a

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Speaker 3: defender at the twenty. It's a nineteen yard game for

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Speaker 3: Trey McBride to the fifteen yard line.

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Speaker 5: Trey McBride going airborne.

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Speaker 1: Man. You just see the athleticism of Trey McBride.

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Speaker 3: Throws across the middle and it's caught inside the five

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Speaker 3: yard line by McBride fighting for the first down at

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Speaker 3: the two. He's still pushing the pile and he pushes

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Speaker 3: it into the end zone.

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Speaker 10: Put it dust down.

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Speaker 3: Trey McBride all muscle driving the defense into the end

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Speaker 3: zone for the Star.

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Speaker 5: You might watch tape for the next twenty years and

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Speaker 5: never see a play like this run again, unbelievable. He

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Speaker 5: gets stood up in the offensive line, breaks to the

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Speaker 5: ball and push pushes Frey McBride is.

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Speaker 4: The caption on that video should read, You're not the

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Speaker 4: bossomme Baltimore defense. Everyone wants to play quarterback. Hardly anyone

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Speaker 4: will other experience what it's like to be at the

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Speaker 4: epicenter of a tush push, But as a tight end,

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Speaker 4: the ever rare tight end who actually experience that? Ron Wolfley,

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Speaker 4: our special guest is here Trey McBride, second year Cardinals

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Speaker 4: tight end on the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan

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Speaker 4: Ford and Gilbert. How many times think you've been asked

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Speaker 4: about that play in the last four or five days?

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Speaker 10: Tray, Yeah, it's it's been surreal, you know, just seeing

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Speaker 10: how many people, you know, how much tension that got.

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Speaker 10: But most of all, it was just crazy. I can't

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Speaker 10: believe they didn't blow that thing dead. I thought that,

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Speaker 10: you know, they were gonna blow it dead. I kept

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Speaker 10: pushing my feet, kept pushing my feet, and you know,

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Speaker 10: I felt that second surge from the big ol'd lineman,

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Speaker 10: and once I felt that surge, I knew we were

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Speaker 10: getting in there. So, yeah, that was a crazy play.

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Speaker 10: I'm glad we got in there, though.

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Speaker 1: Now try I've got to ask you this right now,

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Speaker 1: you know what. I was glad you got in there

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Speaker 1: as well. But I got to ask you this. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about Fort Morgan, Colorado. That's where you were, That's

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Speaker 1: where you grew up. Tell me about Fort Morgan, Man,

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Speaker 1: what's that like?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, small town grew up, it's you know,

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Speaker 10: about ten thousand people. You know, you know, every single

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Speaker 10: person that lives in the town where they grew up,

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Speaker 10: where they're, what their parents do, everything about them. But

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Speaker 10: it was it was a special place. We had nothing

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Speaker 10: to do but play sports. I played basketball, I played baseball,

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Speaker 10: played football, and that's what we did all year round,

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Speaker 10: twenty four to seven. We'd go down to the park

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Speaker 10: play play all the sports in the world and did

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Speaker 10: that all year round.

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Speaker 1: It was a blast.

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Speaker 4: At what point in high school did you realize, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm a football player or were you still telling yourself baseball,

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Speaker 4: basketball and way in all three?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I think it was it took a while.

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Speaker 10: I was really teetering on all the sports. I had

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Speaker 10: offers for baseball, had offers for basketball, and then the

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Speaker 10: other thing was just I was like, man, I think

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Speaker 10: I want to go play football. My brother was already

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Speaker 10: committed to Colorado State, and I was like, I think

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Speaker 10: this is kind of my best best choice, you know,

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Speaker 10: I want to go play D one play football with

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Speaker 10: my brother, and that's what I ultimately decided.

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Speaker 1: So you had offers to go play for baseball and

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Speaker 1: advance your career basketball, you had offers for that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah they were you know, mostly small Division one sure

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Speaker 10: or Division two, but but yeah, definitely had an opportunity

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Speaker 10: to play in any sport I wanted in college, which

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Speaker 10: was cool.

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Speaker 1: All right. In baseball, what did you play though?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I was a I was a catcher growing up,

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Speaker 10: and then once I got to once I got to

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Speaker 10: about sophomore year high school, I switched to first base.

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Speaker 10: I was tired of, you know, my knees were starting

511
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Speaker 10: to hurt a little bit getting down that catcher's position.

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Speaker 10: So I went to first base where I could just

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Speaker 10: stand there and catch the ball. It was really easy,

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Speaker 10: and most of all, you know, I was a powerful hitter,

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Speaker 10: So that was that.

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Speaker 1: Was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have the school record and home runs at

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Speaker 4: Fort Morgan High School. You know you should chop it

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Speaker 4: up with your head coach. Because Jonathan Gannon is a

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Speaker 4: Cleveland native, you guys are gonna have to walk through

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Speaker 4: on Saturday at his alma mater, Santa in Naitius High School.

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Speaker 4: So he is an all state dbat, plus he played receiver.

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Speaker 4: He was all stayed in basketball. He hit a game

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Speaker 4: winning free throw to win a state title, and he

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Speaker 4: also ran the hurdles, believe it or not. So you

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Speaker 4: know you got to go in there and flex a

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Speaker 4: little bit on the three sports star stuff from high

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Speaker 4: school days with your head coach.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no doubt, that's really cool. I didn't know all

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Speaker 10: that about him. That's really cool. I have to chop

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Speaker 10: it up with him about that. That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: So tell us about the way your head coach has

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Speaker 4: used you, especially the last couple of games, because all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, you're a fantasy football favorite. Trey McBride.

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Speaker 4: You got fourteen targets in Wolf. Here's the stats, and

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Speaker 4: if Trey doesn't know this, your ten catches are the

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Speaker 4: most for a Cardinals tight end in team history, and

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Speaker 4: your ninety five receiving yards are the most for a

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Speaker 4: Cardinals tight end since nineteen eighty nine since Wolf's former

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Speaker 4: teammate Rob Awalt. Wow, So what you did in this

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Speaker 4: last game was his historic. Just tell us about how

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Speaker 4: you're being used now.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it just kind of comes with opportunity.

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Speaker 10: I've kind of been preparing, kind of been doing everything

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Speaker 10: the same way each and every week. But really, I think,

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Speaker 10: you know, obviously with zach on Ir, I've gotten a

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Speaker 10: little bit more opportunity, and that's been that's been great,

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Speaker 10: you know, just getting the passes I can getting thrown

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Speaker 10: to me, and building that chemistry with the quarterbacks, building

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Speaker 10: the chemistry with the coaches that they can trust that

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Speaker 10: they can put the ball in my hand. And then

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Speaker 10: most of all, when I get that you know, third

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Speaker 10: and five, you know, when I get a five yard catch,

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Speaker 10: I turned that into ten yards. That's kind of what

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Speaker 10: I'm trying to do, is turn small catches into big

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Speaker 10: yards and things like that. And I continue doing that

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Speaker 10: and ultimately I've been getting a little more opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Trey, where is your confidence level right now? Would you

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Speaker 1: say your confidence level right now is as high as

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Speaker 1: it's been since you've come into the league.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, you know, I feel like just having that opportunity,

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Speaker 10: getting able, knowing that I can catch, you know, ten

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Speaker 10: balls in a game, now, knowing I can put up

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Speaker 10: one hundred yards in a game, things like that, just

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Speaker 10: building that confidence. It kind of feels like I'm back

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Speaker 10: in college again, you know what it felt like the

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Speaker 10: last couple of weeks. So it's been fun, it's been

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Speaker 10: it's been good. But at the same time, I got

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Speaker 10: to be consistent, got to keep doing it week in

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Speaker 10: and week out to show these guys that it's not

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Speaker 10: just here and there thing.

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Speaker 4: So over the past three games, you have one hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty six receiving yards, which is fourth most by

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Speaker 4: any NFL tight end since weeks. Think about that, and then,

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Speaker 4: of course the kap Ra was that game against Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: Here's your head coach, Jonathan Gannon on your performance.

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Speaker 6: He played fantastic. He had a heck of a game,

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Speaker 6: made plays when his number was called, make some big

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Speaker 6: time catches, really good blocker. Really not surprised he's been

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Speaker 6: coming along. He hasn't been improving his game every day,

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Speaker 6: and he had a really good game.

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Speaker 4: We'll get back to the seventeen yard touchdown catch where

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Speaker 4: he had a lot of help from your three hundred

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Speaker 4: pound friends. But there was a catch you didn't make

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Speaker 4: at a high degree of difficulty, and man, were you

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Speaker 4: frustrated with yourself on the sideline. Just tell us about

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Speaker 4: that moment.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, gosh, man, I know I can make that play.

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Speaker 1: That's what frustrated me.

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Speaker 10: I was just a drop guy hit my arm right

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Speaker 10: when I had the ball and just frustrated me because

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Speaker 10: I know I can make that play. You know, nine

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Speaker 10: out of ten times I make that play. In that

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Speaker 10: one time he got me. So I was just more

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Speaker 10: frustrated with myself and I was glad that the didn't

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Speaker 10: let that affect my game. And you know, I was

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Speaker 10: able to have a couple or catches after that, But ultimately,

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Speaker 10: you know that I just I feel like I can

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Speaker 10: catch every ball, and when I don't, I get real,

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Speaker 10: real frustrated at myself sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Trey, what is your weight at right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Way about two forty five. You know, I kind of

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Speaker 10: teeter between two forty and two fifty, but I'm kind

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Speaker 10: of right around that two forty five range.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I like you at two six now. I'm

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Speaker 1: just kidding, just kidding. Your blocking is getting better, and

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Speaker 1: Jag even was commenting on that as well. This is

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Speaker 1: really important to me because I see you as a

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Speaker 1: stud tight end. I've talked to you about this in

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Speaker 1: the past. I see you as a stud tight end,

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Speaker 1: as a why a guy that can line up on

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Speaker 1: the hip of the tackle and right on the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and come off the ball and attack at

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Speaker 1: the point of attack and hold up and be a

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Speaker 1: George Kittle if you will. And yet I see you

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Speaker 1: also as a guy that can move and be that

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Speaker 1: weapon offensively here. But do you see yourself as a

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Speaker 1: stud tight ad?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I feel like I can. I can

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Speaker 10: put my hand in the dirt and I can I

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Speaker 10: can make plays in the run game as well.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 10: I think that's a huge part of being a tight

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Speaker 10: end is being able to block. And I think that's

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Speaker 10: what's really helped me in the past game is his

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Speaker 10: run action. These run action plays that we that we

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Speaker 10: keep calling up has been wide open for me because

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Speaker 10: of that effect that I've had in the run game.

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Speaker 10: They have to respect the run, those safeties come down

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Speaker 10: and then we can usually hit the big one over

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Speaker 10: the top.

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Speaker 1: So, Trey, you have a desire to be a better blocker,

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Speaker 1: don't you. Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, you know I think I'm always you got to

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Speaker 10: be a good blocker. You got to those guys, you know,

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Speaker 10: running running the ball is a huge part of the game,

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Speaker 10: So you got to be effective in the run game.

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Speaker 10: And if you can have a good run game, your

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Speaker 10: pass game is gonna be awesome as well.

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Speaker 4: When you've been used as an h back or even

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Speaker 4: as a full back in different formations, because we know

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Speaker 4: Drew Pets and you know he's very multiple with the

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Speaker 4: way he goes about as often. What's that like for you?

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Speaker 4: Has there been a learning curve with that?

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Speaker 10: No, I mean I did a little bit of that

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Speaker 10: in college. I was, you know, played a little fullback

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Speaker 10: and stuff in college. So it's not something I specialize in.

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Speaker 10: It's not something I do that. But I can definitely

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Speaker 10: go in there and block somebody. I can run routes

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Speaker 10: from the backfield. I can do things like that, and

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Speaker 10: it actually works out really well because sometimes when you

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Speaker 10: lined up in the backfield, you get matchups with linebackers,

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Speaker 10: and I feel like that's a favorable matchup for me.

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Speaker 10: So that's something that I kind of enjoy doing. I've

655
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Speaker 10: been willing to do that and it's really helped our team.

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Speaker 1: Try talk to us a little bit about to the

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Speaker 1: Browns defense and in particular their past defense.

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Speaker 10: They're really good, Yeah, yeah, they are. They're very tough defense.

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Speaker 10: They have a very very good up front. You know,

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Speaker 10: obviously they have ninety nine Smith from that they traded

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Speaker 10: from from the Vikings. They obviously have Miles Garrett who's

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Speaker 10: an elite you know player playing at a really high level.

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 10: You go their back, their backfield, they got linebackers that

665
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Speaker 10: are fast, a little smaller linebackers, but they play real fast,

666
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Speaker 10: they play hard, and then they got you know, their

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Speaker 10: their dbs, they got war, they got their safeties are

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Speaker 10: all pros. I mean, they got a lot of really

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Speaker 10: good players back there. So it's a very tough defense,

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Speaker 10: something that you know a challenge for us, but something

671
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Speaker 10: I'm really looking forward to to, you know, play back

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Speaker 10: to back really good defenses and hopefully, you know, put

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Speaker 10: up good number.

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Speaker 4: Trey McBride is our guest here on The Big Red

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Speaker 4: Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert So if rookie

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Speaker 4: Clayton Tune is your quarterback on Sunday. Do you think

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Speaker 4: that Jim Schwartz defense will dial it up for the

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Speaker 4: sake of dialing it up, get exotic just because there

679
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Speaker 4: is a rookie back there trying to show everything except

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Speaker 4: the kitchen sink.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I definitely think that's exactly what we're

682
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Speaker 10: expecting to happen. You know, with the rookie quarterback, a

683
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Speaker 10: guy who doesn't have a ton of experience, you're expecting

684
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Speaker 10: a lot of pressure, a lot of different exotic looks,

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Speaker 10: different things that he hasn't seen. But at the same time,

686
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Speaker 10: you know, Clayton's been great, he's prepared well. I feel

687
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Speaker 10: like he's very prepared to go in this game. If

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Speaker 10: he's the guy that we're going with, he's going to

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Speaker 10: be prepared and going to play a great game for us.

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Speaker 1: So as you watch tape of the Cleveland Browns, of

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Speaker 1: course and their past defense in particular rundown situation first

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Speaker 1: in ten second, one to six, what kind of coverages

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Speaker 1: are they showing right now?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they have a lot of different things, but they

695
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Speaker 10: really run a lot of single high whether that's man

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Speaker 10: demand that you're gonna get or they run a lot

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Speaker 10: of Cover three, so you're gonna get a lot of

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Speaker 10: single high with a change up of cover two. But

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Speaker 10: you're gonna get a lot of single high, a lot

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Speaker 10: of different looks. But yeah, it's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 10: of fun. They do a lot of different things. Miles

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Speaker 10: Garrett's obviously huge point in that off or that defense,

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Speaker 10: so we're gonna have to stop him and you know,

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Speaker 10: go from there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, think of some of the guys you've gone

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Speaker 4: against already this year, Micah Parsons, Nick Bosa, right, the

707
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Speaker 4: Aaron Donald's. How often are you asked to chip against

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Speaker 4: some of those premier guys.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it feels like every game I'm in

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Speaker 10: there chipping or sometimes you know, have those guys in

711
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Speaker 10: past pro. It's not not something I specialize in, but

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Speaker 10: something you know, I gotta do every once in a

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Speaker 10: while to make sure that we can get the ball downfield.

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Speaker 10: You know, if I gotta chip them and slow them

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Speaker 10: down to get Hollywood open or someone downfield, that's what

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Speaker 10: I'll do. So that's exactly what it's been. And sometimes

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Speaker 10: those checkdowns, you know, chip and run a flat. Sometimes

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Speaker 10: they sink and that check down, you catch for five yards,

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Speaker 10: you can kind of turn into ten fifteen yards every

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Speaker 10: once in a while. So something that will do a

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Speaker 10: lot this game. It will be fun.

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Speaker 1: As you look at some of the edge guys that

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Speaker 1: you've played against already, how does Miles Garrett stack up.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no doubt he's He's playing at a very very

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Speaker 10: high level. You know, I say he's definitely up there

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Speaker 10: at the top. He's playing at an elite level right now.

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Speaker 10: He's a stud. He's done a lot of things. He

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Speaker 10: plays all over the ball, he plays in linebacker, he

729
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Speaker 10: moves around, he does all kinds of things with him.

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Speaker 10: So it's going to be a great matchup. I'm excited

731
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Speaker 10: to see, you know, how we handle him.

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Speaker 4: And look, we're going to find out a lot about

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Speaker 4: Clayton Tune if indeed he's the guy on Sunday. What

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Speaker 4: do you think we know already? For example, I've gone

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Speaker 4: around the locker room guys like, hey, he's mobile. Now,

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Speaker 4: he can extend plays. You know, what else do you

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Speaker 4: think you've seen from his skill set? Because we saw

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Speaker 4: a lot of him in August in the preseason as well.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's definitely mobile. He's a guy who can make

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Speaker 10: plays with his feet, but he's confident. He throws the

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Speaker 10: ball really well, and he's he's got a powerful arm.

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Speaker 10: You know, he's a guy who can get the ball downfield.

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Speaker 10: He's a guy who's accurate, will throw the ball where

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Speaker 10: it needs to be, and he's a leader. I think

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Speaker 10: he's done a great job, you know, coordinating the huddle,

746
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Speaker 10: being dominant in the huddle. You know, his canes has

747
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Speaker 10: been great. He feels confident and everything like that. And

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Speaker 10: just seeing that from one of his teammates, it's it's

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Speaker 10: very promising to see Trey.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think your offense needs to improve the most?

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Speaker 1: If you could pick one thing where the offense collectively,

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Speaker 1: not individually, but collectively needs to.

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Speaker 10: Improve, Yeah, I think just executing plays. I think we're

754
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Speaker 10: you know, Drew does a great job of collin plays.

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Speaker 10: He does a great job of mixing up run and

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Speaker 10: pass and things like that. But I think just executing

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Speaker 10: on little things like that, whether it's in pass pro,

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Speaker 10: whether it's running the ball, whatever it is, finishing a play.

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Speaker 10: We've done a great job in the run game, but

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Speaker 10: there's just a little bit left out there that we

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Speaker 10: can be better at. There's done a good job in

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Speaker 10: the pass game, but there's just more out there that

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Speaker 10: we're leaving on the field. So just just having that

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Speaker 10: little extra strain each game and continue going, and I

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Speaker 10: think it'll be great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Wolf knows we're on doing his TV show this week.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Ganna said, Look, in known pass situations, we have

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Speaker 4: to be better when there's no threat of the run

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Speaker 4: and they know we're throwing the ball. We got to

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Speaker 4: improve in that area. So we'll see if that happens.

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Speaker 4: On Sunday. Everyone out there is asking us ask him

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Speaker 4: about Kyler Murray. What have you seen about Kyler so far?

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Speaker 10: You know, I've seen just a little bit we see

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Speaker 10: of him in practice. He's done a great job.

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Speaker 1: He's uh.

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Speaker 10: He's definitely the same Kyler Murray he was before the

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Speaker 10: before the injury. He's fast, he's elite, he throws the

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Speaker 10: ball well, and he's uh. He's done a great job

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Speaker 10: back there. I'm super excited to as he keeps inching back.

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Speaker 10: It's going to be a great time when he gets back.

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Speaker 4: And Wolf, I saw where he got the ball back.

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Speaker 4: Trey McBride after the rugby scrum touchdown. He threw the

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Speaker 4: ball into the stands and the equipment guy's got the

784
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Speaker 4: ball back for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 10: I don't know how they got it. I thought I

787
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Speaker 10: threw that thing into the next stadium over, you know,

788
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Speaker 10: I threw that thing so high. But yeah, those equipment

789
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Speaker 10: guys did a great job got it back for me.

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Speaker 10: So I'm excited to take that one home.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll see on the team plane. Enjoyed it,

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Speaker 4: Thanks Trey, yere right, thank you there God by the way,

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Speaker 4: speaking to Jonathan again and watch Cardinals game plan Friday

794
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Speaker 4: six thirty twelve News. We talked to JG about everything.

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Speaker 4: Trey McBride, our special guests. We continue with a big

796
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Speaker 4: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 3: Just so folks out there know we're back here during

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Speaker 3: the break trying to come up with all these things

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Speaker 3: to say. If Sheldrik red Wine makes him play, we

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Speaker 3: are okay. We've got to give full credit to our producer,

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Speaker 3: Jimal Mahundro saying if he if he makes a play,

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Speaker 3: say that he pressed his grapes or that they bottled

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Speaker 3: up red wine.

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Speaker 1: Sheldrick red Wine, and what did you say he got corked? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stick a cork at him.

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Speaker 3: Red Wine pressed his grapes and he got fermented at

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Speaker 3: the thirty yard line. Is what we do during my.

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Speaker 5: He was red wine got fermented on that nine route.

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Speaker 3: Just so people out there listening, No, this is what

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Speaker 3: we do during commercials.

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Speaker 4: Well, you don't have to ask play by playman Extraordinaire

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Speaker 4: Dave Pash nor our producer Jim Amundro twice to talk wine. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I mean these guys like talking and drinking a little

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Speaker 4: veno here and there. So Sheldrick red who was a

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Speaker 4: Cleveland Brown safety when the Cardinals played the Browns in

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. He's currently on the Cowboys practice squad, so

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Speaker 4: he was the subject of much speculation during.

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Speaker 1: One of the commercial breaks.

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Speaker 4: So you guys are entertaining yourselves if nothing else, right, Wolf.

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Speaker 1: He got fermented, Paul up. That was my favorite. All right,

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Speaker 1: that was it. There's just so much you can read

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Speaker 1: into that, bully.

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Speaker 4: So how did the Cardinals bottle up that number two

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Speaker 4: rank run game by the Cleveland Browns? That is one

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Speaker 4: question we have to pose here and what scares you

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Speaker 4: the most before we get to the Cleveland defense and

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Speaker 4: we here from Jonathan Gannon, what scares you the most

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Speaker 4: about this Brown's offense when you look at.

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Speaker 1: It, just how physical they are. Once again, this is very,

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Speaker 1: very similar to the Baltimore Ravens and how the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: Ravens attack a defense. They're going to be more under center,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine Deshaun Watson. I think this is just

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Speaker 1: me guessing, but I think he's probably going to be

834
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Speaker 1: right to play on Sunday. I know that he was

835
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Speaker 1: out there throwing during the week. Of course, yesterday was

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Speaker 1: out there practicing. So we'll see how that goes with

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. But really doesn't matter, Pelly, because whether it's

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson or whatever quarterback, they're going to run out there.

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Speaker 1: To me, right now, it's twelve and it's thirteen personnel.

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Speaker 1: This is what they do an awful lot of They're

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Speaker 1: in eleven personnel from time to time, but it truly

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Speaker 1: is thirteen personnel. It's twenty one personnel as well. Twenty personnel.

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Speaker 1: They go with a lot of two back and they

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Speaker 1: hammer you. That's what they do. It's very similar to

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, I would say, offensively and even defensively.

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Speaker 1: The physicality level on both sides of the ball is ravenesque.

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Speaker 4: And they have a heavy screen game, so you know

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Speaker 4: the user. Here's the thing. Cleveland is four and three

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Speaker 4: despite being minus seven in the turnover ratio. They have

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Speaker 4: seventeen giveaways. That's an NFL high. Somehow they've won four

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Speaker 4: seven games despite that stat. Now, if you look at

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Speaker 4: their defense and you cited everything and it's apped right,

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Speaker 4: number one in total D, passing D third down defense.

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Speaker 4: But the past two weekends, you know, past two games,

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Speaker 4: they've allowed sixty two points in over eight hundred total yards,

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Speaker 4: and three games in a row they've given up an

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Speaker 4: opening drive touchdown. So we'll see exactly what the Cardinals encounter.

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Speaker 4: Here's what Jonathan Gannon knows he's getting in the entire

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Speaker 4: Cleveland defense.

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Speaker 6: Their whole defense. I mean, you know, coach Schwartz is

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Speaker 6: one of the best to ever do it. They're fast, aggressive,

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Speaker 6: they got really good players on all three levels. They're

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Speaker 6: connected with how they play because it's a little bit

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Speaker 6: different style than ours. But they're one of the top

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Speaker 6: defenses in the NFL. We got a big challenge ahead.

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this week four, Lamar Jackson without six

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Speaker 4: starters on offense, right, missing his top two receivers, his

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Speaker 4: top two tackles. He went in there when fifteen to

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Speaker 4: nineteen at two touchdowns, throwing two touchdowns running. So if

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Speaker 4: it's Clayton Tune or Kyler, you know that quarterback run

871
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Speaker 4: game might be effective against the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I definitely would say you're right on that, Polley.

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Speaker 1: I also would say that they haven't been good. This

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Speaker 1: is really weird. You've got a defense that is the

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Speaker 1: number one defense on third down. Would just say that's

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Speaker 1: a big metric. Paull third down and getting off. Their

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Speaker 1: third down percentage is number one in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: They give up the least amount of first downs per game,

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Speaker 1: number one in first downs allowed. And yet at the

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Speaker 1: same time, once you get into the red zone, that's

881
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Speaker 1: where their defense is breaking down. Their number twenty nine

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00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: in in red zone situations, Paul number twenty nine, and

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00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: then number thirty two in goal to go. So just

884
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: the opposite of the Baltimore Ravens, who were number two

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00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: in the red zone and number one in goal to

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Speaker 1: go last week. Now of a sudden, you're taking on

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and the Browns are horrible at red

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Speaker 1: zone and in gold goal so that's been their problem

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Speaker 1: right now. But out on the field, they've been pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know who's really really good is Miles Garrett,

891
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: of course, and he definitely merits a mention. He might

892
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Speaker 4: be your NFL Defensive Player of the Year third in sacks,

893
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Speaker 4: has the most sacks of any player ever before the

894
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Speaker 4: age of twenty eight. He just eclipped what's that guy's name,

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Speaker 4: Reggie White. Yeah, he was pretty good. So Miles Garrett

896
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Speaker 4: is a very dynamic player, and he'll come off either

897
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Speaker 4: edge of the Cardinals offensive line. Beyond that, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you have a Cleveland defense that really is just known

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Speaker 4: for being ultra physical. And we see if the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: can run the ball. And once again, we know the

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Speaker 4: Browns can run the ball. The last three games they've

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Speaker 4: run for one hundred and fifty plus. So well, if

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Speaker 4: this game might be done in two and a half

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Speaker 4: hours for all we know, if both offenses come out

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Speaker 4: there and just commit to the run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing you say that, Pauly, because that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what I think we're gonna see. Jerome Forward, of course,

908
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Speaker 1: is a guy, he's questionable, but this is a guy

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Speaker 1: that is capable of running the ball. Anytime he got

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Speaker 1: a guy who's five ' ten two twenty, I like you.

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Speaker 1: I like you immediately, Kareem Hunt as well as a

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Speaker 1: guy that we're gonna see. Obviously, Nick Chubb is done

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Speaker 1: for the season with that incredibly horrific injury that he's suffered.

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Speaker 1: But this is a very good run blocking offensive line

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Speaker 1: that the Cleveland Browns have. They're not great in terms

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Speaker 1: of pass protection poly as a matter of fact, they're

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Speaker 1: not very good at all. They give up an awful

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Speaker 1: lot of pressures and they give up some sacks number

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Speaker 1: twenty five in sacks per attempt by way of example.

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Speaker 1: So they want to run the ball. That's what they are.

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Speaker 1: They're number two in number ten, number two in rushing

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Speaker 1: yards per game, and number ten and rushing yards per play.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna line up and they're gonna attack the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and they're gonna hammer you with power personnel groups.

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Speaker 1: This is who they are. And then they'll use the

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Speaker 1: power of play action, especially with Deshaun Watson, he's so

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Speaker 1: good at it. They'll use that to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: and take some shots down the field. But this is

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Speaker 1: a run first team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, last week in a win against actually in a loss,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry against Seattle right a game they led twenty

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Speaker 4: to seventeen with two minutes to play and lost twenty

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Speaker 4: four to twenty. They won time of possession thirty seven

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Speaker 4: to twenty three. They went out and ran it forty

935
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Speaker 4: times for a buck fifty five on the ground. And

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Speaker 4: to your point, Nick Chubb done for the year. Their

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Speaker 4: two time All Pro offensive tackle Jack Conklin a season

938
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Speaker 4: inning knee injury as well. Yet they went out there

939
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Speaker 4: with Kareem Hunt, Preerre Strong Junior and Jerome Ford and

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Speaker 4: they had one hundred and thirty seven yards from those

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Speaker 4: three running backs. So there's no doubt that's the identity

942
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Speaker 4: of that offense. And if they're trying to protect their

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Speaker 4: quarterback Deshaun Watson, then guess what. Here it comes and

944
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Speaker 4: you got to be able to stop it. And we

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Speaker 4: saw Gus Edwards have success, we saw the Rams have success,

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Speaker 4: and of course Christian McCaffrey have success in the last

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Speaker 4: few games against the Cardinals when it comes to running

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