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Speaker 1: All right, I see Mike Rabels called the show, So

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel on Patriots Monday. Here on EEI Mike, good morning, Courtney.

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Speaker 1: And for Greg who is on the Great Island of

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Speaker 1: Nantucket missing your first appearance on this.

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Speaker 2: Week, Okay, I thought he was going to Myrtle Beach

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Speaker 2: and you know, I mean go down there and playing

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Speaker 2: putt putt, get some all you can eat seafood. I

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Speaker 2: think we should make this the best show of the

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Speaker 2: year since Greg is gone, and we'll have fun. And

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Speaker 2: then when he comes back, we can we can go

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Speaker 2: back to whatever. But let's have a good time.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on how you started things off on Friday.

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Speaker 3: How impressed were you with your guys.

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Speaker 1: We knew Travon was going to be fast, but that

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Speaker 1: was pretty incredible.

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Speaker 2: A good way to start, you know, I mean, a

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Speaker 2: good way to start. We've we've really moved on kind

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Speaker 2: of to the next phase and to the next week

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Speaker 2: and to the next challenge. But I really appreciated the

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Speaker 2: player's energy and enthusiasm and excitement and obviously the execution.

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Speaker 4: Mike.

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Speaker 5: I know it's a lot different with the three preseason

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Speaker 5: games and trying to keep guys healthy with you know,

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Speaker 5: practice is what's the one thing that you try to

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Speaker 5: come away from a team perspective on what you're looking

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Speaker 5: at guys in these preseason games.

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Speaker 2: Oh, just how they make adjustments and how they respond

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Speaker 2: to live action, whether that's tackling, whether that's breaking tackles,

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Speaker 2: the physicality to finish. The overall operation, I think from

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Speaker 2: all of us, I thought was clean, which was good

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Speaker 2: to see. It looked like there was an organization to

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Speaker 2: what we were doing. It was a good test. Defensively,

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Speaker 2: they didn't huddle for most of the games, so I

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Speaker 2: thought that was a good challenge to start the preseason.

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Speaker 2: And you know, substitution we have guys running out there

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Speaker 2: late on different things, or twelve minute on the field,

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Speaker 2: or we didn't have operation penalties. It didn't have to Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got close to one time down there and then

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Speaker 2: you know called the time out. You know, down on

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Speaker 2: the low. Red probably would have gotten a snap off,

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Speaker 2: but just wanted to make sure that things were good there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike, I had the my biggest takeaway watching it

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Speaker 6: was just that it was smooth. I wasn't concerned about

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm not I know you're not going to

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Speaker 6: talk about years before this, but it just felt like

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Speaker 6: there was always something clunky. There was either you know,

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Speaker 6: a formational issue, there was too many men in the huddle,

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Speaker 6: you had to call time out, the defense wasn't aligned.

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Speaker 6: I thought for week one, preseason game number one, it

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Speaker 6: seemed pretty smooth all around.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to get, you know, a flow to our

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Speaker 2: building and what everybody does and what everybody's responsibilities are

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Speaker 2: each and every day. I feel like there's been a

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Speaker 2: good flow to camp. Have really been blown away by

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Speaker 2: the fans that have come out. I want to thank them.

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Speaker 2: So we just you know, we wrapped that up yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It had had a lot of people the entire camp.

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Speaker 2: I thought our players did a great job of interacting

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Speaker 2: with them and engaging them and trying to sign as

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Speaker 2: many autographs. And it's hard after a long practice, but

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Speaker 2: I felt like guys try to engage and sign for

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Speaker 2: everybody that came out.

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Speaker 1: Mike, we talked pretty much every day after practices and

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Speaker 1: listening to media that is, you know, broadcasting from preseason practice,

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Speaker 1: and it seems like people get too high on your

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Speaker 1: guys or too low on the guys. It seems like

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Speaker 1: they jump to conclusions or they exaggerate what's going on?

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Speaker 4: How much can you mean the media?

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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Know it's shocking, But how much can you really learn

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Speaker 1: from just a preseason practice. Isn't everybody just trying to

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean again, I think you can. You know, to

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Speaker 2: that the ups and the downs. We talked about staying

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Speaker 2: consistency in what we're doing positively. So again, people will

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Speaker 2: form their own opinions based on things that happen, more

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Speaker 2: so the plays they are made, and you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: The biggest up and down we've probably seen come out

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Speaker 1: of headlines is Will Campbell. Whether it's a good practice

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Speaker 4: Well, continuing to improve.

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Speaker 2: I thought you saw.

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Speaker 4: His play, demeanor and style.

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Speaker 2: Come come out in the game. You know with protection obviously,

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Speaker 2: that's you know, always going to be looked to improve upon,

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Speaker 2: whether you know you're taking on a game or you're

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Speaker 2: think the thing that that Will's realizing, as a lot

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Speaker 2: that there's just different play styles and skill sets for

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Speaker 2: that's the big thing. How how one tight end runs routes,

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Speaker 2: At, what his go to moves are, things like that.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's critical to understand and be able to

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Speaker 2: adjust too quickly. So he's done that, He's seen a

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Speaker 5: Mike, you talk about Will Campbell. You obviously got Wilson

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Speaker 5: a little play in the game. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: How how is it like with those guys, you know,

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Speaker 5: especially Doug marro on the offensive line coach, to making

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Speaker 5: them understand, you know, we got we've got two young

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: The communication I think is something that we did talk

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Speaker 2: helping the guy next to you. I mean, it was

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Speaker 2: third and seven. Should be no shock that that that

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Speaker 2: and you know that's critical if they can get the

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Speaker 2: able to make a great decision of just kind of

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Speaker 2: taking a sack there and we'll punt it and we'll

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Speaker 6: Like uh, speaking of the quarterback, you know you were

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Speaker 6: clear at halftime after the game that the fumble just

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Speaker 6: can't happen. What's the communication like with Drake May and

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Speaker 6: as a coach, I mean, other than just instilling that

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Speaker 2: Well, the communication is pretty much, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think it's clear how I communicate. I just I

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Speaker 2: the things that go on before that, Right, what has

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Speaker 4: But then.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think the more and those things you

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Speaker 2: don't see that in practice, right, So you look at

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Speaker 2: the preseason practices and even against Washington if it could

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Speaker 2: well maybe that was a sack or we're scrambling, you know,

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Speaker 2: we extend outside the pocket and now there's no you know,

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Speaker 2: I think in the game we're able to, you know,

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Speaker 2: see those things. And that's why we have preseason games

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Speaker 2: and we get those actions and understand that, you know,

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Speaker 2: when you say, hey, I'm just trying to make a play,

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes, you know, we just we can't try

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Speaker 2: I think he'll learn from it and understand like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to play Superman all

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Speaker 2: the time, and I can reserve to write the punt

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Speaker 2: and help this football team and they'll flip the field

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Speaker 2: and he'll play defense and get another crack at it.

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Speaker 1: Mike, it's awesome that it seems like Stefan Diggs is

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Speaker 1: going to be good for Week one. Holding him back

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Speaker 1: on Friday, is that just out of precaution with his.

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Speaker 5: Recovery coach's decision, Mike, you talked about, you know, earlier,

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Speaker 5: you talked about tackling and breaking tackles. Is it difficult

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Speaker 5: how are you working on that in practice?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's the time. I think it's

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Speaker 2: just the decision to that we're not going to go

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Speaker 2: it's about getting in good positions I think it's about

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Speaker 2: we go and practice and we say thud, and guys

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Speaker 2: then we get into the game and sometimes you don't

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Speaker 2: I think it's just continuing to trust the way that

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Speaker 2: we practice and saying, hey, thud is just the same

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Speaker 2: thing you're going to do in the game. They're just

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Speaker 2: not going to take them to the ground, and realizing

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Speaker 2: that those are good tackles in practice and then they have

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Speaker 6: Mike, you know, obviously Brady's been a person and a

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Speaker 6: figure that's been a shadow cast over the organization since

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Speaker 6: he left. Now, literally with the statue, how did you

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Speaker 6: handle that with your team? And did Tom speak to

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Speaker 2: Never said a word, and no he did it, Mike.

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Speaker 7: I thought one of the highlights from Friday night was

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Speaker 7: just the kind of the running back group as a whole.

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Speaker 7: I thought Romandre was awesome. I think Trevion looked spectacular.

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Speaker 7: Even Antonio Gibson had some moments as well. They were physical,

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Speaker 7: they were fast, kind of what what kind of dynamics

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Speaker 7: do they bring? Being so versatile there and being able

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you saw the impact that both of

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Speaker 2: play is going to be as important as we think

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Speaker 2: it is, you know, forcing teams to really now make

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Speaker 2: All the opportunities where the ball may be in jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: Uh. We've heard a lot of players and coaches talk

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the just leadership and the way

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean expectations that he's to lead his football team.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what the job of the head coach and

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Speaker 2: Extraordinary, but the leadership and the demeanor has to be.

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Speaker 2: And I think he's learning that. I love the fact

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Speaker 5: Mike, you know how important it is to have a

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Speaker 5: May you have Josh McDaniel's a guy that's been around

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Speaker 2: Well, certainly it's key to coaching and things that we

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Speaker 2: You don't have to be careful kind of how you

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Speaker 6: Mike, We've had a lot of talk here about the

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Speaker 6: Can you walk us through your decision making there and

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Speaker 4: There's another co coach's decision.

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Speaker 2: They felt like this is what was best for our team.

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Speaker 1: Mike, I have to ask because I've only met you

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Speaker 2: I would again, I think that there's a plan, there's

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Speaker 2: So some of those walk through days, you know, where

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Speaker 1: Did you not see him jump in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the I never said he was soft.

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Speaker 3: I think he's as hard as they come.

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Speaker 5: I think said it might want to be careful you

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Speaker 4: Well, just because you'd be back in the back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hid, I'd be back pulling people.

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Speaker 4: In the back, hiding. I mean, run it, run to

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Speaker 2: Other guys stand back there and wait for people to

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 5: You got to have the guys with the hoses.

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Speaker 5: So, Mike, when you start to kind of like look

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Speaker 5: the past. I know it's you know, you put expectations

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Speaker 5: always want to be great. What's your mindset of coaching

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Speaker 2: I think it's just figure out what this organization needs

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Speaker 2: then help to accomplish that and help the people that

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Speaker 1: Well, Mike, thanks so much for calling. I'm excited for

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Speaker 1: let do these in person?

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Speaker 2: Again?

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Speaker 3: I don't know where you stand on that. If you

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Speaker 4: In, I think this works out perfectly.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching film right here and I'm in the office,

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Speaker 5: Could could you grade the Brady statue? I gave it

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Speaker 2: I would say, it's uh so, it's good. I thought

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Speaker 2: the you know again, he's those are hard. I would

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 2: You know, now you'd have to change it up. You'd

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Speaker 5: There's a little pudgy, but you know, he looked handsome.

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Speaker 1: His face was handsome, face looked goods all Corny cares about.

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Speaker 3: It's true, It's honestly very true.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll be back with you next Monday

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Speaker 1: with Greg. I don't know how you feel about that.

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Speaker 1: Greg will be back from Nantucket, I believe on Friday.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if we can get him off the island.

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Speaker 1: But thanks so much, and have a good week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, guys, thank you,