Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, October the twentieth, and
Speaker 1: a true Oscar worthy performance highlights the next movie on
Speaker 1: our horror hit list. Welcome everybody to this episode of
Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. We continue to count down our favorite
Speaker 1: horror movies that maybe you never heard of as we
Speaker 1: get closer to Halloween. Robes, I didn't overstate it at
Speaker 1: the top DDA.
Speaker 2: No. In fact, when we were actually looking to go
Speaker 2: see this movie in the theaters like we did, we
Speaker 2: kept reading about this woman's performance, and so actually, I
Speaker 2: think I had high expectations that I felt like wouldn't
Speaker 2: be met. My goodness, Sally Hawkins is the lead in this,
Speaker 2: and my goodness, I really would not be surprised and
Speaker 2: would be willing to be a part of the campaign
Speaker 2: to get her nominated for a an Academy Award. She
Speaker 2: deserves an Oscar.
Speaker 1: This Okay, folks, we yes, we're horror movie fans. We
Speaker 1: like Justin Long. We never thought he was gonna be
Speaker 1: nominated for an Oscar for Jeepers. Creepers, Okay, And there
Speaker 1: are some great we talked about. I mean, Justin Chastain
Speaker 1: was in another one. There are great performances this one.
Speaker 1: We're not overstating and just being Homer's in this one.
Speaker 1: This woman's performance carries the daunting nature and the creepy
Speaker 1: nature and also a grief stricken nature of this movie.
Speaker 1: She hits so many bizarre notes. It's her. We're a
Speaker 1: campaigning now. I want this woman to be at least nominated.
Speaker 1: You know how they are about horror.
Speaker 2: Movies, Well, this got us going into a little bit
Speaker 2: of a deep dive in researching and recognizing that only
Speaker 2: that we could find Anthony Hopkins and Jodie Foster. They
Speaker 2: both won Best Actor in their category for Silence of
Speaker 2: the Lambs and Silence of the Lambs one Best Picture.
Speaker 2: But that's about it when it comes to horror movies,
Speaker 2: and obvious that movie swept the Oscars that year, as
Speaker 2: it should have. It is a unbelievable movie. I don't
Speaker 2: know that this movie rises to that level, but it's
Speaker 2: really good and certainly her performance does in my humble opinion.
Speaker 1: And we're so excited about miss Sally Hawkins that we
Speaker 1: haven't even told you the name of a damn movie.
Speaker 1: It's Bring Her Back. It's number twelve on our list.
Speaker 1: The movie is Bring Her Back, and it is it
Speaker 1: is brand spaken new just out for a few months. Bro,
Speaker 1: we were very excited anytime we see a horror movie
Speaker 1: that's that's rated this highly by critics, like, Okay, something
Speaker 1: special is happening.
Speaker 2: It must be really really good. So yes, we ran
Speaker 2: to the theater to see Bring Her Back, released May
Speaker 2: twenty eighth, twenty twenty five, an hour and forty four
Speaker 2: minutes rateed R, and it is absolutely earns every bit
Speaker 2: of that rateed R.
Speaker 1: Just warning, you say warning. This is the one movie
Speaker 1: we teased in the last episode. This is the one.
Speaker 1: We've been going back and rewatching all of these movies
Speaker 1: before we do a review here on them or put
Speaker 1: them on our list. This is the one I said, babe,
Speaker 1: can we not watch this one? I don't want to
Speaker 1: see it again. Now, that is a weird thing to
Speaker 1: try to sell somebody on seeing a movie is saying
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it again. It is tough
Speaker 1: to up see.
Speaker 2: I don't mind watching it again. I wouldn't be upset
Speaker 2: about fast forwarding through one scene. And that's the scene
Speaker 2: that you are well.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, go ahead, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yes, you are mostly concerned about rewatching.
Speaker 1: But there is more to it than that. This is
Speaker 1: a very heavy it's very dark, it involves rituals. It
Speaker 1: is a there is nothing. This is one movie when
Speaker 1: people say, well, why do you go to horror movies?
Speaker 1: How can you have fun being scared? This is one
Speaker 1: movie that it's tough to find enjoyment.
Speaker 2: It's a tough watch, but it's remarkable and you are transfixed.
Speaker 2: I will tell you, no matter what's going on in
Speaker 2: your life, good bad, ugly happy said, you won't even
Speaker 2: remember what's you are so engrossed in this film. It
Speaker 2: sucks you in, It pulls you into the narrative, and
Speaker 2: it's a bumpy ride. But I mean that's part of
Speaker 2: the reason why we go to these movies. We want
Speaker 2: to feel something, we want to be transported, and certainly
Speaker 2: this movie does this.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, in horrific ways. It is classified as
Speaker 1: a horror mystery movie. The synopsis is pretty simple. A
Speaker 1: brother and sister uncover a terrifying ritual at the secluded
Speaker 1: home of their new foster mother. They really underplayed arrows.
Speaker 1: That sounds so simple.
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound at all. A terrifying ritual is just
Speaker 2: the beginning of it. The acting is so good though,
Speaker 2: across all of the folks who are in this film.
Speaker 2: The box office, it did well, nineteen million domestically, twenty
Speaker 2: million internationally, so just about forty million total, and the
Speaker 2: budget was fifteen million, so they did well. And certainly
Speaker 2: this is coming to us from these two directors, Michael
Speaker 2: and Danny Philippa, who did Talk to Me, which we
Speaker 2: loved as well. I thought that movie was final. You
Speaker 2: thought that the lead in that one should have been nominated.
Speaker 1: She was so good, she was spectacular. Sally Hawkins is
Speaker 1: another level in this one. But those brothers are considered
Speaker 1: now these modern masters of horror. I think they're being called,
Speaker 1: but they're storytelling and the way it are doing movies
Speaker 1: is I'll watch anything their names are attached to.
Speaker 2: Yes, agreed, So the critics agreed. As you mentioned, Rotten
Speaker 2: Tomatoes score eighty nine percent. I actually thought it would
Speaker 2: be higher than that, and the audience scores seventy nine percent.
Speaker 2: And my only guess is why it's a little bit
Speaker 2: lower is because it is such a tough movie to watch.
Speaker 1: Okay, did you read through these reviews? I have not met.
Speaker 2: You said that I shouldn't see I.
Speaker 1: Wanted, and you will agree, I think. But it's some
Speaker 1: of these make me think we actually are qualified to
Speaker 1: be professional critics, because it is. It does. It's validation
Speaker 1: when you see people have the same thoughts, so point
Speaker 1: out the same things and they're the professionals.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The critic consensus on this one a domestic nightmare that
Speaker 1: draws its most profound scares from Sally Hawkins deranged performance,
Speaker 1: Bring Her Back as an exemplary chiller that reaffirms directors
Speaker 1: Danny and Michael Philippo as modern masters of horror. Wow,
Speaker 1: there it is. Yeah, now, that is a hell of
Speaker 1: a review.
Speaker 2: Deranged performance, and of course that would send me if
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen it, straight to watching it immediately.
Speaker 1: And again you old Sally. She was in the Paddington
Speaker 1: movies and she Shape of Water. She was nominated. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: she's an Oscar nominee. She's an Oscar nominy.
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, No. The audience consensus on this one is
Speaker 1: Bring Her Back is a harrowing motion picture that may
Speaker 1: gut the bravest of horror buffs, reiterating that the Philippole
Speaker 1: brothers are here to slay.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that here to slay. That's that's funny.
Speaker 2: I like that. I applaud that more please. This is
Speaker 2: the kind of movie that is just gripping in every
Speaker 2: way it. We talk about how some of the movies
Speaker 2: on our list were like this is just fun, this
Speaker 2: is a wild ride, this is entertaining this, and then
Speaker 2: there are those that are elevated. This is the probably
Speaker 2: among the highest of the elevated horror flicks, and that
Speaker 2: just there's incredible storytelling, incredible acting, twist and turns you
Speaker 2: cannot see coming, and the type of horror look you start.
Speaker 2: When you watch enough like we do. You see some
Speaker 2: of the same deaths, you see some of the same gore,
Speaker 2: you see some of the same tricks. And I don't
Speaker 2: mind that because when they work, they work. But when
Speaker 2: you see things as innovative as we saw in this movie,
Speaker 2: it's really impressive.
Speaker 1: All right. Sample critic review. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: very good ones. So Bringer Back isn't just scary. It's
Speaker 1: the most disturbing movie of the year. Gripped me with
Speaker 1: relentless anxiety around life, death, family, grief, and the extremes
Speaker 1: people go to to suppress pain.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Sally Hawkins does that. I love movies when we talk
Speaker 1: about Barbarian and there was another one recently where the monster,
Speaker 1: if you will, or the main evil person you relate
Speaker 1: to something that all comes from grief, Like I'm doing
Speaker 1: this bad thing because I am actually dealing with loss
Speaker 1: in my own life. I like that.
Speaker 2: That reminds me of Babaduk too, that's same. There are
Speaker 2: some there are some horror movies where and sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 2: I don't like the ending. I'm like, please, don't make
Speaker 2: me feel sorry for the monster. But I actually get
Speaker 2: it when they do have that ending, if they do
Speaker 2: it in the right way, it just creates this moment.
Speaker 2: We've had many conversations in life about good versus evil.
Speaker 2: It's not that simple. Almost never are you all bad
Speaker 2: or all good, And a lot of times people can
Speaker 2: start off good and turn bad and vice versa. But
Speaker 2: that I do appreciate it when told right that arching,
Speaker 2: that overarching theme, that hey, it's not as obvious or
Speaker 2: as easy to point out good and bad.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of this type of storytelling. Another says
Speaker 1: this is a nightmare inducing movie thanks to a wicked
Speaker 1: Sally Hawkins and a story balanced by heartache and horror.
Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2: That is so good.
Speaker 1: Another one saying these brothers their brand of filmmaking is
Speaker 1: brutal and honest. Their movie creates unbearable tension from start
Speaker 1: to finish. It feels like a festering wound.
Speaker 2: And then people will be like, why do I want
Speaker 2: to go see this movie? That I get exactly what
Speaker 2: the writer or the critic wrote in that, and that
Speaker 2: was meant to actually be a compliment for people who
Speaker 2: don't like horror movies. You would say, again, case in point,
Speaker 2: here's why you are freaks for liking this stuff, and
Speaker 2: I'm normal for not liking it.
Speaker 1: This is the movie you would always warn somebody about, Hey,
Speaker 1: you should see it, but you would never just say, yeah,
Speaker 1: go check it out.
Speaker 2: I would never tell my parents and my mom and
Speaker 2: dad are they really don't like horror movies. They love
Speaker 2: the blackening, as we pointed out, like they'll take that,
Speaker 2: but they really aren't big horror movie buffs. They don't
Speaker 2: know where my brother and I came from because we
Speaker 2: both love horror movies so much. But this would be
Speaker 2: a movie I would tell them to never watch. Ever.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, here is the funniest one. And this
Speaker 1: is the one that probably I could have written, I
Speaker 1: have no desire to watch Bring Her Back ever again.
Speaker 1: And I mean this as the highest possible compliment it is.
Speaker 1: It's scared. It creeps me out so much. I don't
Speaker 1: ever And.
Speaker 2: These are all from official critics. Correct, this is not audience.
Speaker 1: This is not audience yet someone else say it's a
Speaker 1: film that opens in one direction but erradically changes lanes
Speaker 1: to chase another movie's success rather than truly stand on
Speaker 1: its own. Get what they're saying.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're saying that. Are there? Are they saying that
Speaker 2: it's chasing what success?
Speaker 1: Talk to me so that they find some connection. They're
Speaker 1: trying to go some direction that movie went. So disagree
Speaker 1: and get that either. But hey, everybody has the thing
Speaker 1: somebody else. Bring Her Back joins the growing roster of
Speaker 1: grief horror films that feel more derivative than innovative. You
Speaker 1: get that.
Speaker 2: I just think they're trying to say something bad about
Speaker 2: a movie that there's very little to say bad about
Speaker 2: other than it's disturbing and gruesome. But that's a good
Speaker 2: thing for horror movie fans.
Speaker 1: And to your point, the first audience review is the
Speaker 1: best one. Quote what a horrifying and sad story. Recommend it.
Speaker 1: It is awful. It is a tough one. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: That's so.
Speaker 1: There is one scene, folks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. And when you talk about the one scene,
Speaker 2: I actually feel the part of my body that it
Speaker 2: impacts hurt, like I actually feel phantom pain because it
Speaker 2: stays with you and you're you're making you're doing exactly
Speaker 2: what I want to do. It's so rough, it makes
Speaker 2: it hard to talk. Makes no sense unless you know
Speaker 2: and you've seen the movie. All right, here's another one
Speaker 2: from the audience. Excellent film and a fresh look on
Speaker 2: grief horror. Story is unsettling and there are definitely some
Speaker 2: gory parts. One of the best horror films of the year.
Speaker 2: Exclamation point. Look, I didn't realize. We talked about these
Speaker 2: subgenres of horror and comedy horror, and we found m
Speaker 2: calm horror. There's a thriller horror, but I never even
Speaker 2: considered or there's body horror, but grief horror. I hadn't
Speaker 2: thought about that. But yes, there are a couple movies
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: There is you know what they include. I'm trying my
Speaker 1: thinking of you know, what. I don't want to mention
Speaker 1: that movie because it might sound like a criticism, so
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it when we get.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, now, everyone's gonna want to know
Speaker 2: what you're saying. A couple other audience reviews. My soul
Speaker 2: and entire being hurts after watching this. You could have
Speaker 2: written that too.
Speaker 1: Now, this last one is a really good one.
Speaker 2: I love it, and this sums it up. Absolute masterpiece.
Speaker 2: Great directing and writing, and first horror movie I've seen
Speaker 2: in a while where you can empathize for the antagonist.
Speaker 2: Disturbing and scary at times, but this movie had me
Speaker 2: in tears. Definitely draws emotion out of you and is
Speaker 2: not what you typically expect from a possession horror such
Speaker 2: as this. Can't wait to show this movie to other
Speaker 2: people and watch their reactions.
Speaker 1: I think that's an honest assessment. You do go on
Speaker 1: more of an emotional ride. You're invested because you have
Speaker 1: foster kids involved. One of the little girl is blind
Speaker 1: as a you can't add to visual disability, yes, and
Speaker 1: needs a brother to help. But even that sweet little dynamic.
Speaker 2: And there is grief on both parts. Because I'm from
Speaker 2: the kids and from the antagonist, as we shall call her.
Speaker 2: But yes, everyone was dealing with major loss and trying
Speaker 2: to go forward, and wow, it unravels very quickly.
Speaker 1: Okay, is there anyone listening is going to go out
Speaker 1: and watch this movie tonight?
Speaker 2: It made like horror movies, Yes.
Speaker 1: Maybe we've sold them in such a way that you
Speaker 1: got to just be curious, like, what in the world
Speaker 1: is this movie? Yeah, it's special. It is special in
Speaker 1: all the best ways when it comes to a horror movie.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you why. After all, we just said about
Speaker 1: how uncomfortable this movie made us, we'll tell you why
Speaker 1: it actually made our list. Who it's for, who it's
Speaker 1: not for? And Robes always has a wonderful food drink
Speaker 1: pairing to go with the movies. I actually haven't heard
Speaker 1: this one yet myself, kind of curious.
Speaker 2: Stay here, continuing our conversation now on our number twelve movie,
Speaker 2: Bring Her Back. It is one of the scariest and
Speaker 2: most disturbing movies on our list, and of course that's
Speaker 2: why it made our list. It is just so compelling
Speaker 2: to watch, from the acting and the performances to the
Speaker 2: storyline with the twists and the turns. But man, you
Speaker 2: got to bring your your I guess your big girl panties.
Speaker 2: You got to bring them with you because I'm telling
Speaker 2: you this is some scary stuff.
Speaker 1: Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: I would not take girl pannies. I would not want
Speaker 2: to watch this by myself. I would want to watch
Speaker 2: this with somebody who I could cuddle up next to,
Speaker 2: just because there are times when I needed to hide
Speaker 2: my eyes and I wanted to hide my eyes next
Speaker 2: to somebody I love.
Speaker 1: You want to snuggle on this one? I? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you need like a physical protector of some kind. You know,
Speaker 1: you just feel batter having somebody. Yeah, no, I mean me,
Speaker 1: everybody like no, not just it with that kind of
Speaker 1: I cannot believe they're doing this. You just can't know
Speaker 1: how you feel throughout this movie. And jump scares in
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: Yes, there are jump scares. I mean it's just it's
Speaker 2: the whole thing is terrifying. But yes, they had just
Speaker 2: the right amount of everything, and so why it made
Speaker 2: our list. Masterful movie making period. This is just brilliantly done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sally Hawkins, if nothing else, turn your eyes
Speaker 1: for every creepy part, but watch her. She is worth
Speaker 1: a watch in this movie. She is just incredible. So yeah,
Speaker 1: this is as far as horror movies go, this is
Speaker 1: certainly on the list. This is probably number one of
Speaker 1: all performances. Yes, and horror movies.
Speaker 2: And there we've had And we were kind of looking
Speaker 2: back and looking on our list and marveling at how
Speaker 2: much the acting was a part of our choices because
Speaker 2: there's so many movies we we keep seeing more and
Speaker 2: more by the way, Oh we could have put this
Speaker 2: one on. Oh we could have put that one on.
Speaker 2: And so we'll have a list for next year too,
Speaker 2: because there are so many good performances that you forget about.
Speaker 2: But then when you actually look at the list altogether,
Speaker 2: there's some damn good actors in these movies. So who
Speaker 2: is this movie for? I think you've got to have
Speaker 2: a strong stomach, You got to be able to tolerate
Speaker 2: some gruesome scenes, and you have to really be in
Speaker 2: it to want to watch excellent storytelling with incredible acting
Speaker 2: if you're in that, because sometimes you're not in that mood.
Speaker 2: I know that sounds silly, but sometimes you're not into
Speaker 2: appreciating that. You don't want to watch this movie unless
Speaker 2: you're in that mood to appreciate just stellar acting. Stellar
Speaker 2: script and some stellar scare scenes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had to you just talk about mood. I
Speaker 1: can't remember what it was. Just the other day you
Speaker 1: had something on and we both said, nah, it's not
Speaker 1: the right mood right now. It was during the day.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was too dark or something was going and
Speaker 1: the movie was too dark, and we just there are times.
Speaker 2: Like another time, another place right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't try this one. If you want to
Speaker 1: be upbeat and having fun. This is one. This is
Speaker 1: art to sit and appreciate, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So who is this not for? I think if
Speaker 2: you haven't and you aren't a fan of horror movies typically,
Speaker 2: you probably are gonna have a tough time with this
Speaker 2: one because it is dark and twisted.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: One of the death scenes by someone who you love
Speaker 2: in this film is so tough because it's so simple
Speaker 2: and yet it's so awful at the same time. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Talking about, right, I can't with this movie.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So yes, I think you really have
Speaker 2: to be a uh in order to fully appreciate this.
Speaker 2: It would be helpful if you are truly a horror
Speaker 2: movie fan, because if you are a horror movie fan,
Speaker 2: You will appreciate this the way it should be appreciated.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, even if you don't sit think oh wow,
Speaker 1: this is and you're not gonna have fun necessarily watching this,
Speaker 1: but you yes, any horror movie fan will appreciate this. Y.
Speaker 2: Yes. Okay, So food drink pairing first, why don't you
Speaker 2: give our listeners what your a suggestion not to eat?
Speaker 1: I'm serious. All there is not do not eat anything
Speaker 1: that requires the use of a sharp knife. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's all I got to And.
Speaker 2: People are gonna think that that's about stabbing. There's another
Speaker 2: there's another you're making. I wish people could see what
Speaker 2: you are doing right now, But there is something that
Speaker 2: involves a knife that you can't imagine until you actually
Speaker 2: see it, and it won't ever leave you.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. No, yeah, no knives.
Speaker 2: So I would actually take it a step further and
Speaker 2: say nothing crunchy. I would just say, you know, because normally,
Speaker 2: like peanuts, popcorn, pretzels, I would avoid anything crunchy. So
Speaker 2: I was actually going to say something like ice cream
Speaker 2: would be good because ice helps with nausea, and if
Speaker 2: you're feeling a little sick or woozy watching this, movie.
Speaker 2: I would say a nice ice cream parfeit would be
Speaker 2: perfect with this film. And whatever drink you want again,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the nan acidic. You just
Speaker 2: want to keep things really simple in your stomach because
Speaker 2: you're going to be on a wild ride that you
Speaker 2: don't need anything extra, So I would avoid bubbles, beer
Speaker 2: or anything like that.
Speaker 1: These brothers, they are these directors because I please Amy
Speaker 1: TJ do not review our movie.
Speaker 2: We're telling people nothing acidic, nothing it.
Speaker 1: Now, make sure you have at least one person with you.
Speaker 2: A ginger mint. No, I'm kidding, but no, something that
Speaker 2: just is simple. And I do think ice cream is
Speaker 2: nice because that's got a good texture for what you're watching.
Speaker 2: You don't want anything crunchy. You'll understand after you watch it.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, where can you watch this film? HBO Max
Speaker 2: is where it's available, and obviously you can purchase it
Speaker 2: on demand. It's pretty much everywhere in terms of streaming,
Speaker 2: but if you do have an HBO Max subscription, it
Speaker 2: will come to you at no extra costs.
Speaker 1: I would love to hear people's reactions. Who are who
Speaker 1: would go and watch it because of what they heard here.
Speaker 1: I would love to hear their reactions to it. We
Speaker 1: gotta find it. Send them in Amy TJ Podcast, Instagram in.
Speaker 2: The yeah, put it in the comments section. Well, we're
Speaker 2: gonna go. We haven't looked at it yet, but I
Speaker 2: would like to go through some of those social media
Speaker 2: posts and read everyone's comments, and maybe we can have
Speaker 2: a fun kind of follow It would be fun to
Speaker 2: hear what everyone thinks is their favorite movie among the
Speaker 2: group that we selected. That might be a fun one too.
Speaker 1: Follow up put into a vote, that would be great.
Speaker 2: We could do that at the end. We could put
Speaker 2: it to a vote and have everyone kind of way
Speaker 2: in and then we can do something and figure out
Speaker 2: just how off we were from what you all think.
Speaker 2: But our next movie, it will be number eleven on
Speaker 2: the list. This is a movie that actually blended genres
Speaker 2: in a way that got me so excited. I was
Speaker 2: very quick to ask you to come to a movie
Speaker 2: date with me.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's your ease. Yeah, this movie of all it's
Speaker 1: number it will be a number eleven on our list. Yes,
Speaker 1: but it is the number one movie on the list
Speaker 1: that you should see with a date. Perfect.
Speaker 2: I love it all right, And with that, thank you
Speaker 2: for listening. Everyone, I'm maybe Roebuck alongside my always movie
Speaker 2: date TJ Holmes, and we will talk to you soon.