1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where it's okay to drink guinness 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: in the morning. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: I am Greg. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Rosenthal and I'm here at Kennedy's in Dublin with my 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: friends from The Ringer Fantasy Football Show, Danny Hifitz, Danny 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: Kelly and Craig horroorback the secret weapon of the show. Look, 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: you guys are like a one to one, you know, 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: replacement for Cynthia Freelan on The Usual Pick Show. 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: Good to have you on. 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's our honor. Thank you very much for having us. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: The guinness is are flowing, Greg, thank you. 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 4: For having us combined are as smart as Cynthia. 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why I called Craig like the secret 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: weapon right off the top. My sewing division between the 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: three of you, like what you're doing, so you know 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: we want now. I hope Craig is cool with me 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: because we just did The Ringer Fantasy Football Show. 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: Everyone should listen. 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: It's one of the best podcasts sports podcast point blank. 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: And I joined them this week. 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: And I hope you didn't mind, because I found myself 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: I was like staring at Craig just because of how 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: we're seated, like in the eyes, and it was like 24 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: it was like a lot of eye contact throughout the 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: show between me and Craig. 26 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 5: No, I loved it. 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 6: Danny Kelly never looks at me, so that was really nice. 28 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 5: Thank you. 29 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 4: All the YouTube comments are just just everyone's like, wow, 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 4: Craig's the hot one, and like, yeah, we've recently learned 31 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: getting mogging. 32 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 7: Yeah we're getting mogged. 33 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 5: What is that? 34 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: No, mogging is when there's you have one friend is 35 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 4: way hotter than your other friends and all the photos 36 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: you're getting mogged beause no one's looking at you in 37 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: the photos. Like, if you have a photo Craig, you 38 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: can't put it on your hinge because then everyone's. 39 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 6: Like, Oh, I'm okay, relaxed. 40 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 7: We could move on. Everyone come yeah. 41 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: It's a very like how do you do fellow kids 42 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: moment for me. 43 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: So we are here and I mentioned Guinnis shout out 44 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: to Robert, the proprietor of Kennedy's not at the scene, 45 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: not Robert Kennedy. We got here a little before ten 46 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. The place was locked up at 47 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: this point because the Ringer Fantasy Football so shut it 48 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: down to begin We never last as I walk up 49 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: like Steelers fans are waiting in line to get in. 50 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: One of them asked me if my black and yellow 51 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: shoes like were bought purposefully for the Steelers. 52 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 7: No they're not. 53 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm actually anti Steelers this week, at least in terms 54 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: of picking the Vikings. But this place started filling up 55 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: pretty early, and like it's rocking out there, like at noon. 56 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 7: The Ryder Cup. 57 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: People are going crazy for the Ryder Cup right now, 58 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: and then also just obviously the game. Like I actually 59 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 4: am shocked just being in Dublin, Like I actually can't 60 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 4: believe how many Steelers fans are here, like I actually 61 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: they are. Literally there are more Steelers fans than regular 62 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: people who live in Dublin. 63 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 7: I think. 64 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, on my travels over here, I saw I saw 65 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 6: zero Minnesota Vikings fans. My life was zero eighty percent 66 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 6: people wearing Steelers gear. 67 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 5: Zero Vikings fans. 68 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: It has a super Bowl field and a super Bowl 69 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: in a smaller city like New Orleans, where in London 70 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: it's great, but it's still London. 71 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 5: You know, there's a million bars here. 72 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: There's Steelers everywhere, and this is a Steelers bar, so 73 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: it's self selecting. But when I got out at my hotel, 74 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: there were twenty Steelers fans just out and about. I 75 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: have a friend from work who said they went to 76 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: a bar the other night and Jason Kelsey is just 77 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: by himself at the bar drinking a beer. They're like, yeah, hey, 78 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: Jason Kelce and I'd seen like a Taylor walking around 79 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: and the whole thing. It feels awesome. Honestly, it feels 80 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: like sort of like a football on the round. We're 81 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: gonna get to the picks. We're just kind of trying 82 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: to set the scene. Do you have any other Dublin takes? 83 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: I know we're pretty soon off the plane. 84 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean I think we all got to 85 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: experience the Ireland, the real Ireland Guinness Taste tests last night, 86 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: which was great. It does taste better here in Ireland. 87 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: I think we can all attest to that. But yeah, 88 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: the vibes are amazing. The vibes are really good. Like 89 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: you said, it kind of does have the super Bowl 90 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: feel where it's a couple of days leading up to 91 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl when you're in that town, are just 92 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: the vibes like party vibes. It's everyone's having a good time, 93 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: you know, even if you see it people from other teams, 94 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: you're ribbing each other or whatever, and so yeah, it's 95 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: really good. 96 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 5: But I haven't seen any Vikings fans yet. 97 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: I did see one, so I do want to and 98 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: we all screamed at him get out of here. 99 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 8: I really can't stress so many Steelers fans are here. 100 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: Like the last we went to the Chiefs by the 101 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: three peet with the Super Bowl, I think a lot 102 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 4: of the Chiefs fans who wanted to go to a 103 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: super Bowl and could afford it had already done it. 104 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 7: There are so many, like hard to. 105 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: Describe how many more Steelers fans are here now than 106 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 4: there were Chiefs fans for the last Super Bowl that 107 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 4: I saw walking on New Orleans. 108 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 7: Like it's even close. 109 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: It's basically all terrible towels and Gavin for president signs. 110 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm just seeing that, which is not Will Gavin, who 111 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: will be hosting, by the way, the game. If you 112 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: happen to be overseas and listening on the radio, I 113 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: will be doing the game with Will Gavin on talkSPORT Radio. 114 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: So check that out. 115 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: All right, We're going to get to the Picks weekly 116 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: pick show. Cynthia and I struggled last week because you 117 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: guys are here. I'm not going to bore you and 118 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: go over what our picks were that we were right 119 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: and wrong about last week. 120 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: Although I did have the worst beat of the year 121 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: in that Rams game. 122 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 5: We had that too. 123 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just missed the kick you cover. 124 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: So we'll go over all the records next week when 125 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: we have Cynthia back on. But I do have her 126 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: picks because I know the fans are interested in what 127 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: her computer model has to say, so I'll sprinkle those 128 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: in because we agree on a couple. The way I 129 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: decided to do it is I still have my usual 130 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: three picks, and you guys have one pick each, like 131 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: your favorite pick. Hopefully we have some differences here. Let's 132 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: start with with Danny hyphens. 133 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: This is really boring, but I'm doing the Chargers giving 134 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: six and a half to the Giants. 135 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I know that's really boring. 136 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 5: Since I'm a Giants fan. 137 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: This is I'm so lame, dude. 138 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 7: I'm a Giants fan. 139 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: I believe in Jackson Dart, but like, this is a 140 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 4: really hard way to start, man. Like, the Chargers are 141 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: three to zero first time since two thos and two, 142 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 4: and the defense with Jesse Minner the defensive coordinator is 143 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: doing an unbelievable Greg's just shaking his head like. 144 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: That, because you are one of my favorite hosts in 145 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: all of podcasting. 146 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan. 147 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: You have been on the show before, so at least 148 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: it's not your first time. But to come on this 149 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: show and make some argument because you're in your feelings 150 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: about the Giants and you want to like feel good 151 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: if they don't cover, it's just like. 152 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 4: To be clear, No, to be clear, I'm setting myself 153 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: the Giants can lose by like four, and then I 154 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: don't I missed the bet and the Giants still lose 155 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 4: the game. 156 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: I just that's the worst feeling before I know. 157 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 8: I just think, I know, But it's fundamentally it's just 158 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 8: I think basically this is in. 159 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 5: His hedging era, you know, But Travis Hunter, now this. 160 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 4: I feel like mentally we're still not counting Herbert like 161 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 4: he's as good as Josha Lamar because we haven't seen 162 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: it in the playoffs. But I would think this season, 163 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 4: I don't think it's controversial to say Herbert's playing that well, right. 164 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 165 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 4: It's Herbert playing versus a rookie quarterback making his first 166 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: career start. It was week one, we wouldn't blink about 167 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: pulling trigger on a touchdown. 168 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 7: Favorite. 169 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: The flip side is the Charges defense is the best 170 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: defense in the NFL and success rate this season. 171 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 7: So I'm like, what I don't like? Am I really? 172 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: I know it's I think you're a little crazy. I'm 173 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: on the Giants on this side. I actually thought about 174 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: going Giants as one of my three favorite picks. 175 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: That felt a little too crazy for me. 176 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: But if I had to pick, I'm on the Giants 177 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: because week one, You're right, but Russell Wilson would have 178 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: been starting and maybe I'm crazy, and we talked about 179 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: it on your show, Guy. 180 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: I think Jackson. 181 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Dart will be an upgrade overall from Russell Wilson. 182 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he's certainly going to elevate when you look 183 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: at the Russell Wilson offense, Like we've talked about this 184 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: for years, it's basically like deep shots to the sideline 185 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: or dump offs and Jackson Jackson Dart can come in 186 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: open up the entire middle of the field. I think 187 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: he's really confident throwing down the seams. That was one 188 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: of the things that you notice about his college tape 189 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: is like the first off pushing the ball down the 190 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: field aggressively. Second of all, he's good against pressure, and 191 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: that was like one of the main selling points I 192 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: think with him coming out of the college because obviously, 193 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: you know, playing in. 194 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: That off takes, he's got a little bit of a 195 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill got there and gets totally blasted. 196 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's willing to stare down the gun barrel. So yeah, 197 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: I still disappointed. I actually think what Hyfez did is rational. 198 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: I would pick the Chargers in this one too. 199 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 6: First start rational. 200 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: It's the biggest quarterback to spirit of the week, and 201 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: it's it's a very complicated defense that I. 202 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: Only feel comfortable being disappointed because I care, because I 203 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: think and maybe this is you know, me trying to 204 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: just like you know, Son, you here, you know that 205 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: like the worst, the worst for doing this, working in 206 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: this business is to pick against your own team. And 207 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: then you're watching Jackson dar in what's gonna be a 208 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: seminal moment of his career, maybe of Brian Dables career 209 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: of the Giants, and he plays his ass off, maybe 210 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: he loses a close game, maybe he goes out there 211 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: and wins the game, and in that moment of total 212 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: Giants fan ecstasy, and you've been wanting those moments. You 213 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: have to think in that Oh man, I went I 214 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: went charge I lost my bag. Yeah, it's like I 215 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: went Chargers minus. 216 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 5: This is this is so good because. 217 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: Okay, I bet on the I bet on the Patriots 218 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 4: to beat the Giants in both Super Bowls because I figured. 219 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: That I'll it didn't hurt that at all. 220 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: Maybe we're wired differently because I would always be annoyed. 221 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: Just pick what you want to happen. 222 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: Anyway, that's spoken like a Patriots fan who got I know, 223 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: you're like. 224 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 6: A charmed shifting back towards Hez. 225 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 7: And this is because I do. 226 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 5: I do believe in the emotional. 227 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: He How many championships did you see to your professional 228 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: teams in the twenty first century fourteen? 229 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of championships every other year. 230 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: The first Super Bowl I ever went to cover was 231 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: the Giants beating the Patriots in their first Super Bowl, 232 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: ending the undefeated season. 233 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: It actually was better, I think in person. 234 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: You didn't realize how devastating a moment that was until 235 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: you started seeing like the highlights and everything. But three 236 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: and three in person as a fan for the Patriots. 237 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's been I hear what you're saying. Maybe 238 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: it is Patriots privilege. 239 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 5: I have a three. 240 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 9: Supposed to make us feel bad? Three only three super Bowl. Yeah, 241 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 9: I want to interject real quick though. 242 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 7: He's right, I'm a coward. 243 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 5: No, here's the deal. It's a long time standing joke 244 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: between Heifetz and I. I've worked with Heifen since twenty sixteen. 245 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: Right in all that time, I think he's rooted for 246 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: his team to win, like one game, the one playoff game. 247 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: Otherwise he's like, I want him to lose, get a 248 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: better draft pick, Like he's never gotten to root for 249 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,119 Speaker 3: his team, Giants, Why are you so fraid. 250 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 5: To like finally jump on the bandwagon. 251 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 7: I just they're throwing dart like he's. 252 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 6: Rooting for them to lose traditionally. 253 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: But what Greg was saying is like evenay away though, 254 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: just like you could have picked different games. 255 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: Literally, we're picking one. 256 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 6: Game strongly over all the other games. 257 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 7: That's fair, and yet here I am. 258 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: And I'm excited. 259 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: I am on record now saying a four point game 260 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: that I think Brian dave All is going to be rejuvenated. 261 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: He's building the offense around him. The Chargers haven't seen it. 262 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: I did think the offensive line for the Chargers did 263 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: not play that well last week, granted against Denver, but 264 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: Herbert under a lot of pressure, and that this front 265 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: will make it a fun game. So I think it'll 266 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: be fun. I'm gonna stay with the Jets. We'll go 267 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: back and forth between you guys and me, and Cynthia 268 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: is on the same side of me. We don't usually 269 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: have the same picks, but we picked separately this week. 270 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: We are both on the Jets plus two and a 271 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: half in Miami, and I could break down how the 272 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Dolphins are investing all this money in the pass rush 273 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: and they're not getting anything upfront, and actually the Jets 274 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: offensive line is where their strength is. I could get 275 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: into how you know Tua at the end of games 276 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: is just fritzeing out and weirdly TNF I think we'll 277 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: look back on as a high point. But it's really 278 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: more based on vibes for me that I think the 279 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: Jets right now are a better organization than the Dolphins, 280 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: which seems crazy to say, and that the press conferences 281 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: since the Dolphins won that game have been so concerning 282 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: and some of the reporting coming out that I actually 283 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: think even though it was close, and from the outside 284 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh good, good, try Miami, you got close. 285 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: Like the aftermath of that game, it seems like everyone 286 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: is pulling in different directions and their source offs, and 287 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: Tua is like yelling at the press and like, I 288 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: think he might have taken a shot at Ben Solac 289 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: even though the question. 290 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: Really did you guys see though our buddy's Ben? How 291 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 5: dare him Okay? 292 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: So they asked him a question how Cam Newton criticized 293 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: to a tongue of Ilois specifically, and he did mention 294 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: the name Cam in his answer, but it was almost 295 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: like he had a pre planned answer for this and 296 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: he went through and and his answer was like it's 297 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: really easy to say if you haven't played, and that 298 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: you're sitting there with a clicker, what's right to do? 299 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like there was a few people like that, 300 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: but I feel like Solac was the most prominent. 301 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 8: Maybe he was the almost positive Camp played too. 302 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 303 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: So that's he had this answer and he's talking about 304 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: the Solax and some of the other people that are 305 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: killing his decision making. 306 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: Uh So it's more of a vibe off for me. 307 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: That. 308 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: I just think this is the Jets chance to go 309 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: win a game. 310 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 6: Miami shouldn't be favored against anybody. 311 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 5: Well, honestly, who's the starting quarterback this week? It's looking 312 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 5: like it's. 313 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: Gonna be Fields Fields practice. Fully, as of this Tapeian 314 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn did not answer the g about it, right, Yeah, 315 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: I think that's him like trying to make them prep 316 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: for two. I don't know that it's a huge difference 317 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: in terms of who I think would win the game, 318 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: Like the approach would be different, but either way, I 319 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: would like the Jets chances. 320 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 5: I think I like this too. I had this in mind. 321 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: It wasn't one of my picks, but I thought about it, 322 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: and it's It's the same deal with with Tuah. For 323 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: the last few years, the offense was very specific. I 324 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: even make jokes sometimes like two is the MVP actually 325 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: because the offense completely falls apart and can't do anything. 326 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 10: It's it's in terms of like, to be clear, I'm 327 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 10: being sarcastic, but like when two is in there, the 328 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 10: offense that they have designed right now is that he's 329 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 10: the only one that can make it work. But now, 330 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 10: and it's so predicated on hitting his back foot getting 331 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 10: the ball out, Like quick reactions, decisive throws over the 332 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 10: middle of field, those kind of things. Now teams are 333 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 10: starting to figure out how to kind of like muddy 334 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 10: the muddy what he's seeing over the middle of field, 335 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 10: not let him get rid of the ball so quickly 336 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 10: and after like one second he can't do anything. 337 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 6: And also it feels like the opposite now where I 338 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 6: almost think if you could get anybody else in this offense, 339 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 6: I'm like, if you can just found that Zach Wilson, 340 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 6: Like if you can get mac Jones in there, I 341 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 6: think this Dolphins offense could be good. Two is once 342 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 6: again he's a noodle arm, Like he's not able to 343 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 6: make these throws down the field anymore. Like the velocity 344 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 6: on his on the football is gone. Tyreek is once 345 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 6: again back to fielding punts down the field. 346 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: It turns around and waits for the ball. It really 347 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: does look like special teams. I will say, you're right. 348 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 4: The thing about two is the other one can make 349 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: the offense work. I think it's the same way like 350 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: I'm the only one who can find stuff that I 351 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: lose in my apartment. 352 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 7: Because that's not a good system. It's a mess. 353 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: And it's a really bad system and I'm the only 354 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: one who can fight it because it's catered to me, 355 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: and the Dolphins cater to This system just works for 356 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: him with a battle line and the fastest receivers in 357 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 4: the NFL, and when at the fastest, when they were 358 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: at one hundredth percentile speed and agility from Tyreek and 359 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 4: the like, suddenly like, oh, the whole thing falls apart. 360 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 7: That's a bad system. 361 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: And we bagged on the Dolphins a decent amount on 362 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: our previous show, so I don't want to repeat myself, 363 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: but there was this segment of Tom Pelisaro in his 364 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: car on The Rich Eisen Show where he kind of 365 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: went through the limitations that Tua constricts on a play 366 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: caller and why it makes it so tough. And I'm like, 367 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: are the Dolphins coaches or coach bearing Tua, because all 368 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: respect to Tom Pelisaro, he's not coming up with these takes. 369 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: That's a bad sign. And then Tua was so unhappy 370 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: in that press conference. He is reading all the comments 371 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: and one of the questions they asked to him was, 372 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: what's the difference between you and you back in college. 373 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: He's like, well, you know, the surgery is on my ankle. 374 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just not I just don't move as 375 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm like this this sucks. 376 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm going Jets. 377 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: I was like, the Jets actually aren't that good at 378 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: the defense, and it could be kind of a sneaky, 379 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: fun fantasy game where they score a lot of points. 380 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: But I ultimately think the Jets make enough wine. 381 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: Winning makes everything better, Losing makes everything worse, and the 382 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: Jets have a newer voice. 383 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 7: But McDaniel, it's like. 384 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: He's done because he got two with a contract. He's 385 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: going to be the one kicked out. Chris Ko has 386 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: been there twenty five years. 387 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 6: When you're basing a selection on vibes and you pick 388 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 6: the Jets, you know it's bad. 389 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: That's why he's the secret weapon. All right, let's go 390 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: to craigspicked. 391 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 6: I'm taking the Bears plus one against the Raiders. 392 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: Interesting. 393 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 7: I like it. 394 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 6: This game's in Vegas. I think Vegas is a little 395 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 6: bit of a disaster right now. I think that it's 396 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 6: not working. Early on, they cannot run the ball. Ashton 397 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 6: genty has one hundred and forty four rushing yards. One 398 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 6: hundred and forty five of them come after contact, which 399 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 6: doesn't make any sense. Gino has been turning over the 400 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 6: ball a ton, and I do think what we saw 401 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 6: out of Caleb, albeit it was against Dallas and Dallas 402 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 6: is making everybody look good right now. I think Caleb 403 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 6: is a momentum quarterback. I think he is somebody where 404 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 6: once things start clicking, I think things will can that way. 405 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 6: I think he's gonna have like a positive snowball effect 406 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 6: of his game. And I think the Raiders defense is 407 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 6: a perfect follow up to Dallas and then getting points. 408 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 6: I was a little surprised that, to be honest, and 409 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 6: I believe in Ben Johnson scheming up all these open 410 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 6: red receivers and I think Caleb. 411 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 5: Can hit them. 412 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 6: I'm not necessarily the biggest Caleb guy in the world. However, 413 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 6: I do think what I saw last week against Dallas 414 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 6: is replicable against Vegas. 415 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: I agree. 416 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: I think Bears against a team that doesn't have a 417 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: good pass rush is a great recipe because some of 418 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: those plays last week with Caleb, he just had all 419 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: the time in the world for someone to undercover. 420 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 6: They ran an eight second fleet flicker you know, and. 421 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: Flicker you've ever seen slow motions, and he made a 422 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: couple plays there was one where the pressure got to 423 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: him right away, where where just his instincts. And that's 424 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: where I agree with you that he can be a 425 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: confidence player where when it starts rolling downhill, and I 426 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: think the Raiders will give him that confidence because they 427 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: don't have a pass rush. The Lions really didn't have 428 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: that much of a pass rush. And week two against him, 429 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: last week, same thing. I do want to ask you, 430 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Craig though, because I you were going to ask about Gent, 431 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: I thought on your show, what is your feeling about 432 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: gent right now? 433 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: Well? 434 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 6: I think the vibes around him are actually pretty bad. 435 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 6: And I it's odd because I think when the ball 436 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 6: is in his hands, he looks great. But I think 437 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 6: when the ball is not in his hands and he's 438 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 6: on the field, things are weird. I think the past 439 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 6: protection stuff with him is a little odd, considering that 440 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 6: was what we thought was a strength coming out of college, 441 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 6: or at least he was capable. 442 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 5: Well, they're not even using him in like the two 443 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 5: minute drove. 444 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 6: No Dylan likes to say his name, Lobby Louby is 445 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 6: playing in the two minute drill against the guy that 446 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 6: took six overall in the draft. 447 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 5: I think that's very bizarre low. We didn't even play 448 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 5: last year. 449 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 6: I just think it's a bad sign that there's already 450 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 6: there's like every press conference now with him is about like, hey, 451 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 6: Ryan Clark said this thing about you, like how do 452 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 6: you feel about that? And he's like, well, I'm not 453 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 6: trying to like listen to anybody in the media. I'm 454 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 6: just trying to like focus on my game. And they're 455 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 6: not giving him that many touches. I think as a 456 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 6: talent on the field, he's great, And I think it's 457 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 6: just a sign generally that like if you're a bad 458 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 6: team and you have a bad offensive line, you should 459 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 6: not be drafting a running back. 460 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: They're they're a terrible offensive line. 461 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you. He made a couple of people miss 462 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: last week. He still got the broke yards after contract. 463 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 6: Awesome. 464 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: He's a little bit And I heard. 465 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: You guys talking about this with Derrick Henry that like 466 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: if he doesn't get a good runway like he'll kind 467 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: of stop his seat. 468 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: And then get toppled over. What did you guys get. 469 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 4: Getting tackled at the line of scrimmage looks like the 470 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 4: statue of Saddam falling over, Like if he gets hit 471 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: before the line of scrimmage. 472 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: He just toppled, square, bangled or tied kind of like 473 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: a completely different body type. But I think Jens has 474 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of that too, and they are right 475 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: now along with the. 476 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 5: Bengals body type of no, I mean actually. 477 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 6: Have a similar box. 478 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: Actually he was low to the ground and kind of 479 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: like thicking. I think he would be a decent running back. 480 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein new sentence. JEDD's vision has been like a 481 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: little off here and there where, like there has been 482 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: a cutback lane to hit. But last week, actually I 483 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: thought he ran well and had a good couple cutbacks. 484 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: So I'm was six. 485 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 5: Six to two, so was wow. Unity his name out 486 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 5: of your mouth. 487 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 9: Here. 488 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: Here's one thing that I want to say about forty 489 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: times we were talking about vibes. 490 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 7: Greg's like I'm gonna get fired. 491 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: The Guinness is showing off here one and a half Gunnis, 492 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: that's all the one we were talking about vibes of 493 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: the last game. This game, I think the Raiders vibes 494 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 3: after having the best offseason of any team, like in 495 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 3: terms of vibes, like raising the floor. We got adults 496 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: in charge now like they got genty they have this 497 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 3: exciting new thing like Pete. 498 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: Carroll, it feels weird. The vibes are atrocious right now. 499 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: And you know who the the escapegoat is right now, 500 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: Tom Brady, Brennan Carroll, Pete Carroll's son. Why who is 501 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: the offensive line coach? And there's no that is the 502 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: fans are turning to say that. 503 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: Unfair because they have almost the exact same offensive line 504 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: as the previous two seasons, especially last year, and they 505 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: played like they punched above their weight last year where 506 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh wow, they're greater than the some 507 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: of their parts offensive line. 508 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: Now it's like Colton Miller and four negatives. 509 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: So and I'm with you, and they moved guys around 510 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 3: off their original like positions to try and like find 511 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 3: the best five and so. 512 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 5: Now that like because there is no yardage available for 513 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: ext year. 514 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: I think Gino's played pretty well, except for that Chargers game, 515 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: which was his worst start since you know, getting the 516 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: starting job in Seattle. I know not many people watch 517 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: that Washington game, but he was under siege and actually 518 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: I thought I played pretty well overall. I'm going to 519 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: go and this is the second pick with both me 520 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: and Cynthia and her computer model are agreeing not only 521 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: in terms of who's on the same side, but that 522 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: these are our favorite confidence picks of the week, which 523 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: is Packers minus seven. 524 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: I love this. 525 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: I love the fact that the Packers lost last week. 526 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that this number is not like ten and 527 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: a half. I think the gap between the Packers and 528 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: this Cowboys team without c. D. Lamb and the two 529 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: offensive linemen is as big as Bill Saints. Like I'm 530 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: not saying the line needs to be that big because 531 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's involved and like, but it could be double 532 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: digit points and I still would be into that, like 533 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: if you wanted to move the line, Like I feel 534 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: like the over under on Packers scoring is thirty five. 535 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: This was gonna be my pick too. I can come 536 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: up with another one, but like, I like this one 537 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: a lot too. The Packers have one of the best defense. 538 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 3: They have the number one rated defense in DV AWAY, 539 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: and they're good on offense. They are just such a 540 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 3: complete team. There was a reason people were talking about them, 541 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 3: you know before this, like last week against the Browns 542 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: where they kind of collapse, as you know, potentially going undefeated, 543 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: super Bowl type team like the vibes are incredible. 544 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: They're very good on both sides of the ball. 545 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: They're the type of team that can beat you in 546 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: so many different ways too, whether it's Jordan Love, whether 547 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: it's a pass rush, whether it's you know, game. I 548 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: think it all makes sense. And with a very injured 549 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: pack Cowboys team, that's an easy pick. 550 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of things in retrospect that 551 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 6: look really good now for Green Bay. Like now that 552 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 6: win against Detroit. Everybody after that game was like, well, 553 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 6: Detroit's a different team. Now, maybe they're not as good. 554 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 6: Seeing Detroit rebound a little bit and we're actually like, oh, 555 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 6: Detroit might be one of the best teams in the NFC. Again, 556 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 6: Packers winning twenty seven to thirteen in that game looks 557 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 6: really good. And even I mean this loss to the Browns, 558 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 6: I agree with you Greg that it's a perfect timing 559 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 6: for the Packers and then come in and kick the 560 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 6: shit out of the Cowboys in this game. Terrible luck 561 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 6: for the Cowboys to face the Packers after this loss. 562 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 6: But also the Browns defense. Once, when we look back 563 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 6: on this season in retrospect, that ten to thirteen loss, 564 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 6: we're going to say the Browns defense actually might be 565 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 6: one of the best defense in the league. Again, So 566 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 6: I think you can look at every game the Packers 567 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 6: have played this season and they look even better now, 568 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 6: even though it's only been three weeks. 569 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 4: I mean, also, when was the last time the Packers 570 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 4: played it? When was less than the Cowboys gave the 571 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 4: Packers a competitive game? That's what that des caught it 572 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: game those like ten years ago. I mean number one. 573 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 4: I don't know if we even want to go under 574 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 4: the analogy we have for the Cowboys defense. I feel 575 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 4: like this is a family friendly show. 576 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 6: But the Motor Kart Rainbow strip, perhaps the Mario Yeah, 577 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 6: that's kid friendly. 578 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 579 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 6: You ever play Mario Kart the rainbow turbo strip. You 580 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 6: hit that, you go ten times as fast that. Okay, 581 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 6: Cowboys defense this. 582 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: Year defense they have no pass rush and they have 583 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: no cornerbacks. That's a pretty bad combo. It's Russell. As 584 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: we just said on our shirt, Russell Wilson threw for 585 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: four hundred and fifty four yards, brought him in overtime 586 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 4: that career. Like Kayler Williams just said the best game 587 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 4: of his career against Mattie Refluce, the Cowboy's defensive coordinator 588 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: who should have done Kayla better than anyone cow that 589 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: they have no cornerbacks even I don't care if Ravon, 590 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 4: DAGs and Drahn planned end up playing in this game, 591 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 4: like they're not healthy. Like the Cowboys literally are running 592 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 4: out of cornerbacks. They have no pass rushers. Who are 593 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 4: the Cowboys best three players of this game? Dak, Prescott, 594 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: Tyler Smith? Who's the third? 595 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 6: Like? 596 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 7: Who who's playing in this game? 597 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: George Pickens, Pickens? It's like it's George Pickens time, just. 598 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 5: Exactly. 599 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: No. 600 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 7: I think this is always that if. 601 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 6: You ask George Pickens, hey, you could lose by tw 602 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 6: but you have one hundred and eighty yards and two touchdowns, 603 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 6: or you win by a point. Don't catch you pass? 604 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 5: What happened? 605 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 7: What does he pick? 606 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 5: I think it's obvious guarantee. 607 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: I think Dak is top five quarterbacks in the league 608 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: right now, So I am fascinated to see that matchup. 609 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: They like, Jeff Halfley's very creative, and I think they're 610 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: gonna come up with special ways to get Micah Parsons 611 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: in one on one situations with some of these backups 612 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: on the inside. 613 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 7: Which one there's multiple right, like Cooper. 614 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: BB's out and Tyler Booker is out, and so Tac 615 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: Prescott's one of the few quarterbacks, even shorthanded, that I 616 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: think could make this entertaining to the point that it's 617 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: forty to twenty five. 618 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: But I just think on the other side, like they're just. 619 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 5: Not going to be able to keep up ultimately. 620 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: Green Bay first two weeks of the season, small sample, 621 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: but they were pushing the ball downfield as much as anyone, 622 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: and they didn't do that against the Browns. But the 623 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 4: Cowbagye defense is allowing nine yards per attempt nine, they're 624 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 4: first down needs ten, they're allowing nine yards. 625 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 5: Right. 626 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 6: It can't be overstated that Russell Wilson threw for four 627 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty yards against the Cowboys, the second most 628 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 6: of his career, and then seven days later bought. 629 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 5: Him one week hit the goalpost twice the. 630 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: Ultimate and you know sign of like how bad this 631 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense is also the matchup of Lafleur versus eber Flues, 632 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: like Bears fans and Packers fans can remember very well, 633 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: and Matt Eberflus is just running out the same old 634 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: stuff like you can give him, like the really expensive 635 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: shave and the new haircut, but like you're still run 636 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: it out that like nineteen ninety five defense. 637 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: So well, it's just that it's the same problem as 638 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 4: the last Cowboys defensive quator, Mike Zimmer, who was running 639 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 4: things that weren't stop working three years earlier. He brought 640 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: him back three years later. It's the thing with the Cowboys. 641 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: Their ideas are from thirty years ago. Jerry Jones older 642 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 4: than Joe Biden. It's like that logic all the way down. 643 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like everyone is out of date with 644 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: the ideas. 645 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm really I'm really big on the Packers. 646 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: We are going to do a power rank like segment 647 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: on tomorrow's show with Michael McQuaid of Pro Football Ireland, 648 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: and look, the Packers are going to be very high there. Okay, 649 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: so we all agree on the Packers DK. I'm making 650 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: you pivot now. 651 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 5: Wait, so can we talk about the game that's happening 652 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 5: in Ireland or is that? 653 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good, it's a good idea. 654 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: I'm going to go against my two colleagues here. We 655 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 3: actually picked the Steelers in the when we. 656 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 5: Do our picks in this game, but I wanted to 657 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 5: pick the Vikings in this one. 658 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: I think the so what is the Steelers it's up 659 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: to two and a half? Like you're giving too, I 660 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: mean the public or on the Vikings as well. 661 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 3: I just think the Vikings defense is one of the 662 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: best defenses in the NFL. Number two in defensive DVAWA. 663 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: They have an excellent pass rush. As you know, Brian 664 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: Flores likes to mix things up and the blitz packages. 665 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: They're blitzing a ton, just making lives difficult for opposing 666 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 3: quarterbacks and we have on recent history of him doing 667 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: that against Aaron Rodgers. So I think this is going 668 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 3: to be an ugly game, a back and forth game, 669 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 3: lots of turnovers, but ultimately I think the Vikings defense 670 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: is gonna be the difference. 671 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 4: It makes sense on paper, I mean, at the end 672 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: of the day the Vikings coming up a forty eight 673 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 4: to ten win. But I just overall, and like in theory, 674 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: it's like the Steelers all they do is let teams 675 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 4: move the ball on them. But I'm like, at the 676 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 4: end of the day, I don't think in a game 677 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 4: where everyone's going to Europe, Carson Wentz is going to 678 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 4: move the ball on the Steelers defense consistently. 679 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 8: And it's funny because it's cliche, but it's true. 680 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 4: The Mike Tomlin games, the'se like ugly muck him up games, 681 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 4: kind of like how the Steelks don't play normal games. 682 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 7: I don't think the Aaron Rodgers Tomlin teams play normal games. 683 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: And I do think this is going to be close 684 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: to the fourth quarter and it's gonna be Carson Wentz 685 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: versus Aaron Rodgers. 686 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: And Carson Wentz versus t J. 687 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: Watt and State Herbig and Cam Hayros Carmon back like 688 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: they should get better on defense and they should signs 689 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: last week, and. 690 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 6: Don't forget this game is eighty to ninety percent Steelers fans. 691 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 6: The people in the is gonna be. 692 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 7: They're gonna play renegade. 693 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: People are gonna go crazy game, but don't okay, So 694 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: to me, it feels a little bit like one of 695 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: those games where a few big momentum shifting defensive plays 696 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: or special teams. 697 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 8: Like hypothetical gang Cale jumping a screen for a pick. 698 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 5: Things like that, and I have more faith in the 699 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 5: Vikings defense to do that. 700 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: I can imagine Carson Wentz on one play like seeing 701 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: his first reads not open. Herbig is screaming around the 702 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: left side, so he panics. He starts running the other 703 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: way and like cam Ward Kim Hayward just blastom. The 704 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: ball flies off and they turn it for like a 705 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: fumble return by Patrick Queen. 706 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: And that's the big play. 707 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: Because my head agrees with you, but there is something yeah, yeah, 708 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: well in the air here you got Dan Rooney looking 709 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: down on him, the ambassador. 710 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: You're not gonna let the steamer? 711 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: Can I just make one caveat if Carson Wentz tries 712 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: to throw a pass with his left hand, this over 713 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: bets off. 714 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 7: We need we need a cash out option. 715 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 716 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 4: To your point, I think this is a game that 717 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: not only the students are losing half time. I think 718 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: they're losing through three quarters. Coaching I think will dominate 719 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 4: for three quarters. The fourth quarter, it's going to be 720 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 4: the players, Roger Rogers versus Wentz. And I'm like, in 721 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, in that moment, as long as the 722 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: one score game, I just think that's the great. 723 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 6: How much were you rooting for Rogers to stay healthy 724 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 6: last week? Because my lord, if he had gotten hurt, 725 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 6: Wentz first. 726 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 5: Rudolph and we were, oh man, it's a good call. 727 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: I was torn because it was the Patriots going against them, 728 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: But I also wanted like the two and one matchup 729 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: versus two and one, it would have been Mason Rudolph 730 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: versus Carson Wentz, which just like, is not fun. 731 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: Not fun. 732 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 5: I don't want to send the watch Mason Rudolph Lord Wentz. 733 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: All right, I'm with you on that one. All right, 734 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: let's wrap my picks. 735 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: So Cynthia's third pick, by the way, the Washington Commanders, 736 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: who we were both on last week and they did 737 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: wind up covering. She has them as a road favorite 738 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. It's a one and a half point favorite. 739 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: Their defense has been a lot better this year. I 740 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: think it's slipped a little under the radar. It has 741 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: been against bad opponents, but you got like Dorn's Armstrong 742 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: leading the league in pressures and their team, I think 743 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: leading the league in pressure rate, and it's going up 744 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: against the Falcons that that has a lot of problems. 745 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: My final pick, though, is a little spicier. I like 746 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: the Jags plus three and a half. Yeah, in San Francisco. 747 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: I actually kind of liked them to go and just 748 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: win this game straight up. You like their defense a 749 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: lot right into that, Yeah, if you they have really 750 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: good players and Campaneely you didn't know anything about him. 751 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: He's the defensive coordinator coming into this, but he came 752 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: from Green Bay and they're just in that new world 753 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: where they're showing all the disguises and it seems like 754 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: it's working. And Trayvon Walker is a lot better than 755 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: he used to be in hind Z Allen is really good, 756 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: and Jordan Lewis is like another ex Cowboy defender that's 757 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: playing much better away. Toren Armstrong is another one that 758 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: I just mentioned, like he's playing well. I just think 759 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: that forty nine ers have a lot of injuries and 760 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: they've been skating by a little bit with these lucky games. 761 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, Traymon Walker working out is funny. I feel like 762 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 6: he was considered such a. 763 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 8: Bus for so well. 764 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 3: I think it's just like a comparison. It's not like 765 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: he's been bad. He just Aiden Hutchinson was. It was 766 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: the choice between him and Aiden Hutchinson, right and Hutchinson. 767 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: And that still looks bad. 768 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: But Hutchet, if Walker was the seventh pick in the draft, 769 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: he'd be like great, Right, He's a. 770 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 8: Plus hundred percent total dictations minus reality. 771 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 6: Andrew Wiggins, It's like what Andrew Wigins worked out as 772 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 6: he's actually like a very solid role player, but he 773 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 6: was pegged as like Canadian Michael Jordan, and you know 774 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 6: he obviously wasn't that. 775 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 7: And to your point about the coordinator thing, I don't 776 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 7: know if you feel this way. 777 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 4: I think one of the hardest parts of the job 778 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 4: is not just offense but defense, trying to figure out 779 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: which coordinators are going to work out in new spots 780 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 4: because you can find the system, but it's not just 781 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 4: bringing a systems. Are you able to coach it and 782 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 4: teach it to the players, Like that's completely different than 783 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 4: just knowing a system yourself, And you don't know, how 784 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 4: do you know if someone's a good teacher or not. 785 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: It's just hard to figure out. But you're right like 786 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: the Jags defense that there is a lot of talent 787 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: on that that has been used poorly. So I do 788 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: think that raising the floor. And again, whatever the quarterback 789 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: situation to be for the Niners this week, like they 790 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: have a lot of holes too. 791 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's pretty as we're taping this, hopefully 792 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: Pierce all gets back at practice. 793 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: He finished out last week's game. 794 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: So I would thank you, okay, and they get a 795 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: couple players back to Marcus Robinson is off suspension, but 796 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: on defense they're a little banged up there, and in general, 797 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: I just feel like three and a half points is 798 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: what does it? They call the extra half point the hook, 799 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: and like that does hook me? I think they've been 800 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: slightly better if you look at overall team DVOA, this 801 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: is actually a really good game. It's the number nine 802 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: team in the league, the forty nine ers versus the 803 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: number ten team, And that's what the Jaguars have looked 804 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: like to my eye, Like they kind. 805 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: Of look like a sixth seed to me. 806 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: And Trevor Lawrence is still missing a lot of throws 807 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: and they're figuring out Hunter, but they looked well coached. 808 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: We just talked about like the Raiders and Brendan Carer, 809 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: Like their offensive line is moving people, they're protecting Lawrence, 810 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: like the plays seem like they make sense to me. 811 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd is like playing really well. I just I 812 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: just kind of like them. I think it Lawrence and 813 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: Brent Thomas, and that's that's annoying. 814 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because I was gonna say Hunter from a 815 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 3: fantasy point of view, which is like what we focus 816 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: on primarily it's like the Jags have been a mess 817 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: just from fantasy point of view. Brian Thomas one of 818 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: the biggest disappointments so far. 819 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 6: You have to create the blame pie charge for Brian Thomas, 820 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 6: who absorbs most of the responsibility. 821 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: It seems like it's mostly Brian Thomas. Yeah, but maybe them. 822 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrieg talked about on our show this week a 823 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: little bit Liam Cohen trying to fit him into some 824 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: prototype that he's not, you know, like this outside like 825 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: Cooper cup type, Robert Woods receiver. 826 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: It's like like, like that's not who he is. And 827 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: maybe he's just like thinking too much. 828 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: But going back to training camp, apparently he was having 829 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: all these drops and all these. 830 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 2: Struggles and him being in. 831 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: But he's open and like the Diami Brown's open, although 832 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: he might be hurt for this game, like Brenton Strange 833 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,479 Speaker 1: is good, Like Parker Washington's open. 834 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: Parkara Washington, I had an intrusive thought last week. I 835 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 4: was like just watching again, like Parker Washington is the 836 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 4: best receiver last year. 837 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 5: I don't be. 838 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: So I am. 839 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm buying the Jaguars. The three and a half points 840 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: is enough. We did everyone right, we did every pick. 841 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: We got through all of Cynthia's picks. Again, she has 842 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Packers Jets plus two and a half. 843 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: I am the Packers minus seven along with Cynthia, so 844 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: we agree there we have the same picks. She has 845 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: the Commander's minus one and a half. I also threw 846 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: in the Jaguars plus three and a half DK you 847 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: went with the Vikings. I like that our listeners are 848 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: just getting free picks. This feels like you ever listen 849 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: to those shows on the radio on like eight thirty 850 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: in the morning, on like eight they're still on in 851 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: la like when I'm on my way to work, like 852 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: on AM Ready, where they're like, I'll give you one 853 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: pick now and you call one eight hundred and who 854 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: is paying for what they're calling the one eight hundred 855 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: line for like the other good picks, but the free 856 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: picks are like, where do you think I got my 857 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: Chargers pick? I just I just mean you could have 858 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: picked like any other game. 859 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 6: Our real life. 860 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 7: That's what the guy on the phone set. 861 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 6: Our realis are on our Patreon. 862 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: So if you want to subscribe to that, you can 863 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: hear our apps. 864 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: Yes, listen to the Ringer fantasy football show. They it's 865 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: not just fantasy football. In the offseason, it's a lot 866 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: of draft but even during the season, it's very much 867 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: not just fantasy football. 868 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: They have some of the best chemistry. 869 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: Danny is an outstanding host, just like the vibes are excellent, 870 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: very good, hang very good, listen, check it out, and 871 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: uh yeah, we're. 872 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 2: Going to have some fun out in the city, hopefully. 873 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 7: I don't know before to the Book of Kels. 874 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: That's right, we are going to the Book of Kels 875 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: on Saturday after your double books. 876 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 7: You forgot about it? 877 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 6: No, No, I didn't double booked of Kels us. 878 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know anything about this, But I am 879 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: a dork and would have probably spent my Saturday anyways, 880 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: like walking around Dublin and going to like old bookstores. 881 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 7: And this is like. 882 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 8: I was like, do you want to do any tourist 883 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 8: and stuff with us? You're like no, And I was like, 884 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 8: it's an old book. 885 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 5: Was like, hold this book. 886 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: It's so old. 887 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 7: It's so old, is it? 888 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like thousand years old, fifteen hundred years something 889 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: like that, eight hundred AD AD. 890 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 2: So we're gonna do that. 891 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: We're going to finish these Guinnesses in front of me 892 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: and you will hear me next in the feed. We 893 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: have an extra show this week. I mentioned it earlier. 894 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: It's Michael McQuaid from the Pro Football Ireland. He is 895 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: like the rich eyes of Ireland. He will love this compliment. 896 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: He is just dominating all of like his competitors and 897 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: just frankly squashing them out as he tries to just 898 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: become an international superstar. So he's on the show. We're 899 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: going to talk about football interest in Ireland. We're gonna 900 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: do a little powerful we'll talk about this game that's 901 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: gonna come up a bonus show on Saturday. It's just 902 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: been a joy to have you guys on. We will 903 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: see you on Saturday on NFL Daily