Speaker 1: Yet I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about
Speaker 1: everything and everybody.
Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
Speaker 2: can't even Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1: It's Laura la Rosa And this is the Latest with
Speaker 1: Laura l Rosa and I'm your host, Laura Rosa, the
Speaker 1: homegirl that knows a bit about everything and everybody. And
Speaker 1: it's just daily dig on everything pop culture, entertainment and
Speaker 1: the conversations that are shaking the room.
Speaker 2: Because when you talk about shaking the.
Speaker 1: Room right now, y'all, I've been sitting in the courtroom
Speaker 1: for the last two weeks and man, like this Diddy
Speaker 1: case is, it's like all over the place. It's like
Speaker 1: one day I'm like, oh, no, what, I don't think
Speaker 1: he did any of that outside of like, you know,
Speaker 1: the beating stuff, because we were literally seeing the bruises
Speaker 1: in court. But and then the next day I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know that he might got to do some time.
Speaker 1: Like I'm all over the place every single day, but
Speaker 1: I think it's because both the prosecution and the defense
Speaker 1: are doing their job so checking in on me today.
Speaker 1: I'm a bit tired, you know, because behind the scenes
Speaker 1: of the grind and I've been grinding and Taylor, yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been out here.
Speaker 1: I've been outside literally, but I'm blessed though, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a little tired. I'm still figuring out how to
Speaker 1: be able to care about anything other than this case
Speaker 1: because when you sitting there all day, it.
Speaker 2: Kind of consumes your world in your mind.
Speaker 1: So yesterday I shut off early, like, I didn't get
Speaker 1: on social media after I posted my video. I just
Speaker 1: watched the Netflix series and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start fresh this morning because I don't know, it was
Speaker 1: just like taking over my mind and my thoughts. But
Speaker 1: I think you know, when you're moving and you grooving,
Speaker 1: that happens. Work takes over how you feeling.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2: You and baby Pje. I'm good. My birthday's coming up
Speaker 2: so hot. When's your birthday? It's February.
Speaker 1: No, Taylor, why did I think you were an Aquarius?
Speaker 2: Oh that's jazz Jess is February thirteen, herst energy. What
Speaker 2: are you doing for your birthday?
Speaker 3: I'm Steve in ac Oh.
Speaker 1: Now I'm definitely really going to Atlantic City. Now I'm
Speaker 1: definitely going to Atlantic City because I was I literally
Speaker 1: was speaking to me being tired. I was thinking to
Speaker 1: myself yesterday like, man, I'm gonna just tell my mom, like,
Speaker 1: let's just stay in New York because I need to
Speaker 1: sleep all weekend.
Speaker 2: I'm trucking at the AC on Saturday.
Speaker 1: For you, this is your birthday, and I love hanging
Speaker 1: out with you and Big Patrick and Little Patrick and
Speaker 1: the belly. But let's get on into the latest, because
Speaker 1: there's so much here with Cassie and her taking the
Speaker 1: stand for the second day. If you hear me turning
Speaker 1: pages in here, or see me turning pages in the video,
Speaker 1: it's because I got my handy dandy court notebook.
Speaker 2: Baby, I'll be highlighting things.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we can't use any electronics, only the inner
Speaker 1: like the Inner City presses and a couple other outlets
Speaker 1: of the world who are in house press ken, So
Speaker 1: that's the only way I can remember a lot of
Speaker 1: the things. But yeah, So yesterday Cassie took the stand
Speaker 1: and the prosecution did their or finished their direct examination.
Speaker 1: So that basically means the prosecution those are the people
Speaker 1: that want Diddy to go to jail. They got to
Speaker 1: finish question in Cassie yesterday and.
Speaker 3: It was done.
Speaker 1: She's done speaking to them to well, sort of kind
Speaker 1: of because they could come back again and ask her
Speaker 1: more questions on a cross examination, but they're done speaking
Speaker 1: to her without any real interruptions or like basically setting
Speaker 1: up their premise with her. Okay, And now Diddy's team
Speaker 1: gets to come in and kind of like dissect the
Speaker 1: things that she said to them and kind of get
Speaker 1: their own narrative.
Speaker 2: Out there a bit.
Speaker 1: So I'm really interested to see what's gonna happen when
Speaker 1: that does happen. But yesterday in court, Diddy's family was
Speaker 1: They're interesting enough. His daughters weren't there yesterday. A lot
Speaker 1: of people were wondering, like the day that Cassie first
Speaker 1: started testifying, why did why did they stay in the
Speaker 1: courtroom because it was very graphic and they weren't in
Speaker 1: the court room yesterday. They weren't in the courtroom yesterday.
Speaker 1: It was Diddy's mom, Christian, Justin and Quincy. So Diddy's
Speaker 1: sons and his mom were in court, but the daughters
Speaker 1: were not there like they have been a lot of
Speaker 1: the other days. Maybe they just needed to break it is.
Speaker 1: It's a long day. We're in there from like nine
Speaker 1: to five just listening to people talk, listening to legal
Speaker 1: draw like they talked so legal because they're lawyers, so
Speaker 1: it's like you got.
Speaker 2: The cold stuff. But yeah, so the prosecution.
Speaker 1: When I when I last talk to you guys here
Speaker 1: on the podcast about this, I said that I don't know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't really convinced that they had a case. But yesterday,
Speaker 1: I mean, it took them a minute to get to
Speaker 1: where they were going. I told you all, they left
Speaker 1: off at a good leaving point where they were showing
Speaker 1: puff taking Cassie's things back into the court, I'm back
Speaker 1: into the hotel room. And what I meant by that
Speaker 1: was because tell I know you asked me after the podcast.
Speaker 1: What I meant by that was their job right now
Speaker 1: is to show that not only was you know, people
Speaker 1: being paid and traveled for sex, but that people were
Speaker 1: being kept against their will, made to do things against
Speaker 1: their will, and made to do things because there were
Speaker 1: threats of you know, blackmail and you know all these things.
Speaker 1: Right yesterday, that's what they leaned into. So yesterday Cassie
Speaker 1: was on the stand and they talked to her a
Speaker 1: lot about the abuse. Like when I say, they spent
Speaker 1: so much time and they have been. They spend so
Speaker 1: much time on the abuse, but they started to get
Speaker 1: into how the abuse went into her basically being trapped
Speaker 1: allegedly and not being able to leave the situation. So
Speaker 1: they opened it up talking about abuse and one of
Speaker 1: the things that they ask her is why didn't you
Speaker 1: ever just fight back? Or was there a time where
Speaker 1: you fought back? Right, physically fought back? And Cassie starts
Speaker 1: to talk about a time where she fought back and
Speaker 1: she says that, you know, Puff was like astonished, like
Speaker 1: he was confused, he was shocked, but it made him
Speaker 1: more angry and of course it just made things worse.
Speaker 1: So she learned, you know, pretty early that like you
Speaker 1: don't fight back, but she did try at some points
Speaker 1: because I think people are making it out to be
Speaker 1: that like she wanted to be in this situation and
Speaker 1: they were trying to establish that she didn't. Now another
Speaker 1: point of the video that they really focused on that
Speaker 1: last day testimony when I did this the last podcast
Speaker 1: episode before this one, Please make sure you guys gonna
Speaker 1: listen to that was the phone because Diddy's team has
Speaker 1: been really leaning on YO.
Speaker 2: This is just a jealous, toxic relationship.
Speaker 1: And y'all are arguing about a phone in that CNN video,
Speaker 1: the beating video from the hotel. Cassie's testimony yesterday was
Speaker 1: that Diddy's.
Speaker 2: That phone that was in Puf's hand was her phone
Speaker 2: she took.
Speaker 1: He took her phone, allegedly and her clothes back into
Speaker 1: the hotel room, so.
Speaker 2: She couldn't go anywhere. She could barely even call it
Speaker 2: uber to leave.
Speaker 1: But she talks about finally getting out and then even
Speaker 1: after she got out, Diddy then came to her house
Speaker 1: and it was like a whole thing. And they also
Speaker 1: have her talking about this black eye that was in question,
Speaker 1: whether she got, whether she didn't get.
Speaker 2: But then they kind of fast forward.
Speaker 1: Now, what they really spent a lot of time on
Speaker 1: yesterday is establishing how the escort service or system that
Speaker 1: Cassie and Diddy had would work. And they actually showed
Speaker 1: text messages, which I'm sure the prosecution, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: sure the defense Diddy's team is gonna try and better
Speaker 1: explain today. They showed text messag of did he actually
Speaker 1: being more involved in getting people places so he would
Speaker 1: they would talk about different people that they wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, do these sexual encounters with and their were
Speaker 1: text messages. Did he literally saying like oh fly the
Speaker 1: men you know, things like that, which goes into the trafficking.
Speaker 1: Now I have brought up the definition of trafficking, and
Speaker 1: I know when we talk about this on a breakfast club,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need it because a lot of people are
Speaker 1: confused about that as well too. Now the traffic the
Speaker 1: definition of trafficking, it goes into the Men Act is
Speaker 1: the transportation of individuals across state lines or intentionally for
Speaker 1: the purpose of prostitution or any other and moral purpose.
Speaker 1: That I asked yesterday in court to clarify because I
Speaker 1: was I was talking about this on the breakfast club.
Speaker 1: The difference between an escort and a prostitute. An escort
Speaker 1: is not supposed to there's not supposed to be an
Speaker 1: exchange of money for sex. A prostitute there is. Prostitution
Speaker 1: is illegal. So you see what they're doing here, Like
Speaker 1: they're they're they're putting the two together, Like Okay, y'all
Speaker 1: are getting these escorts, but they're paying, but they're having
Speaker 1: such with you guys for money. They they took time
Speaker 1: to like really verify, like okay, cat see in what
Speaker 1: states did you guys have sex, So it would be
Speaker 1: the same, like she would name like five different escorts
Speaker 1: and then she would name like five locations where.
Speaker 2: They flew them to to have sex.
Speaker 1: Right, none of the escorts yet have said they've been
Speaker 1: kept beyond their whill or anything like that, but just
Speaker 1: the act of doing that is illegal. And then they
Speaker 1: showed text message is a puff saying YO fly him out.
Speaker 2: So now they're providing exact like proof.
Speaker 1: That's been the thing people have felt like the prosecutors
Speaker 1: don't have proof, and now they're like, oh no, here's
Speaker 1: our proof. But another thing to day leaning yesterday, and
Speaker 1: I felt like this was what changed my mind about
Speaker 1: the prosecution and what they're approaching.
Speaker 2: Is is the blackmail.
Speaker 1: So Cassie had talked about how did he would mention
Speaker 1: like different black mail videos when he was upset, So
Speaker 1: if she like dated somebody else, if she, you know,
Speaker 1: made him upset, he would throw to release different freak
Speaker 1: off videos. Now, she said that she had said that
Speaker 1: there were a couple of times where she actually tried
Speaker 1: to go and date other people. She talked about kid
Speaker 1: cutting and trying to date kid Cuddy, and then she
Speaker 1: alleged that Diddy told her that he was going to
Speaker 1: blow up kids Cuddy car, Kid Cutty's car, and you
Speaker 1: remember that happened. They didn't link Diddy to that, you know,
Speaker 1: the police didn't, but Cassie is saying that it was
Speaker 1: Diddy that did that. There was a time where Cassie
Speaker 1: talked about she was just having a conversation with the manager.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a flirtatious thing or a sexual thing somewhere,
Speaker 1: and Puff got upset and she was, you know, beat
Speaker 1: for that. And when she moved on with Alex Fine,
Speaker 1: she alleges that Diddy was texting her. And it actually
Speaker 1: showed text messages, not a facing court, not even alleged.
Speaker 1: They showed text messages from Puff texting Cassie about Alex
Speaker 1: Fine and saying, I want my money back, because remember
Speaker 1: he was paying Alex Fine as her trainer. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: gain my money. I pay him and you was having
Speaker 1: sex with him. Run me my money. But he's threatening her.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, you know you got a lot of
Speaker 1: skeletons in the closet, right, Don't play with me like that.
Speaker 1: Like you're out here dealing with this man that I
Speaker 1: hired don't play with me like that.
Speaker 3: But doesn't that now contradict of him holding her against
Speaker 3: her will because she is able to date other people.
Speaker 2: She is.
Speaker 1: But all you have to show is that there was
Speaker 1: some threats, okay. Sex traffic is a form of human
Speaker 1: trafficking involves compelling or coercing a person to engage in
Speaker 1: commercial sex acts, often through force, fraud or coercion.
Speaker 2: Force fraud or coercion.
Speaker 1: It's like, she's in this relationship where she's she kept
Speaker 1: saying it was her job to do what she was
Speaker 1: doing in the freakass right, which I think is gonna
Speaker 1: come back to better in her ass. But she's doing
Speaker 1: all of these things and people are like, well, why
Speaker 1: don't you just leave the relationship every time she missteps.
Speaker 1: It got to a point where he was threatening her.
Speaker 1: Oh I got these videos. While these videos, and it
Speaker 1: was one point she said she was out in Atlantic
Speaker 1: City and she ran into somebody who said that DJ
Speaker 1: wu Kid had talked about seeing a video of her allegedly,
Speaker 1: and it scared her because she was like, it has
Speaker 1: to be a freak of video. So Hearn's puff wasn't
Speaker 1: really speaking too much at this time. She called them
Speaker 1: and Puff was like, Yo, you need to have a
Speaker 1: conversation with him, bring him back to New York with you.
Speaker 1: Puff sent his security to go with Cassie to sit
Speaker 1: down and wool Kid and this other guy and have
Speaker 1: a conversation about what did y'all see and where did
Speaker 1: y'all see it, kind of like to scare them so
Speaker 1: that the videos wouldn't go anywhere, Like that's like that
Speaker 1: literally that it wasn't though, was it that she never
Speaker 1: saw the video? Like it never went anywhere after that,
Speaker 1: so she didn't know, but it just scared her like
Speaker 1: so bad. So here are some of the things that
Speaker 1: I think won't work to Cassie's favorite So, like, after yesterday,
Speaker 1: I do feel like, you know, Puff's team has it
Speaker 1: made out for them, for real, for real, And I
Speaker 1: mean that in a way of like they got a
Speaker 1: lot that they got to fight it back against. And
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not nervous for them, because that first day,
Speaker 1: my mind was blown by how well Diddy's legal team
Speaker 1: was able to jump in, find loop poles, lean into
Speaker 1: certain things. But here's what I think Cassie is going
Speaker 1: to be up against. Right, There were a couple of
Speaker 1: times where Cassie said things where it was like it
Speaker 1: just didn't make any sense, even if you were a victim,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. So the first thing is
Speaker 1: she talked about the rape that allegedly happened in her home.
Speaker 2: So her and Puff had stopped dating. She was dating
Speaker 2: other people.
Speaker 1: She'd actually just started dating Alex Fin who was her
Speaker 1: trainer at one point and is now her husband and.
Speaker 2: Her kid's father.
Speaker 1: And they, you know, she said, they would checking here
Speaker 1: and there, you know, just to checking on each other.
Speaker 1: They decided to go to dinner, you know, for some closure,
Speaker 1: and dinner was so great, like they had a great time.
Speaker 2: It was fun.
Speaker 1: So after that he took her back to our house.
Speaker 1: He came in the house. She alleges that he then
Speaker 1: raped her in her living room on the floor.
Speaker 2: Right. So the rape happens, and then she sees.
Speaker 1: Him within the next couple weeks after that, she chooses
Speaker 1: to voluntarily hang out with him after that, prosecution instantly
Speaker 1: points out, well, why would you do that, And she's like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't help. You know, if you've been with somebody
Speaker 1: and loved them for over ten years, you can't just
Speaker 1: erase that in my mind, I'm like, I, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I hear her because you want to believe
Speaker 1: all victims, But like, that makes no sense. If the
Speaker 1: rate was to the point where, like, now you found
Speaker 1: a lawsuit and you sit in here on a stand,
Speaker 1: why would you choose to go back with him the
Speaker 1: next week when it's fresh in your mind, your body.
Speaker 2: And your soul. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, I think that that's one thing that they're gonna
Speaker 1: tear her part about. They're also going to tell her
Speaker 1: about part about admitting that she wanted money because she
Speaker 1: felt like she was old it because of what she
Speaker 1: went through and the timeline of what she talked about
Speaker 1: where she received the money. And the money I'm talking
Speaker 1: about is Cassie had foled that civil lawsuit which kicked
Speaker 1: all of this off, alleging that Diddy, you know, was
Speaker 1: physically violent to her, mentally violent to her, alleging sexual
Speaker 1: assaw all these different things, and.
Speaker 2: She'd asked for thirty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Yesterday in court for the first time ever, we found
Speaker 1: out how much she settled for. She settled for twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars. When he asked her, how does she come
Speaker 1: up with thirty million dollars. She said, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just like made it up. She literally said, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just like made it up. I felt
Speaker 1: like that's what I was old Ford for what I
Speaker 1: went through.
Speaker 3: That's not enough.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you can put an
Speaker 1: amount of money on going through I'm not gonna You.
Speaker 2: Can't take away what Cassie went through.
Speaker 1: We saw photos of her yesterday, of her bruises and
Speaker 1: you know, her face all swollen up, and you can't
Speaker 1: put money on what she went through. And no one
Speaker 1: can take that away from her. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: this to say that she didn't deserve to be compensated
Speaker 1: or whatever she thought she deserves. She deserved it. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that when you get on the stand
Speaker 1: and you admit that you're like you were, you caught
Speaker 1: the cause and effect because of this, you ask for money.
Speaker 1: I think the defense is going to lean into that
Speaker 1: because originally they were trying to call it a shakedown.
Speaker 1: But to her point, a lot of the things she
Speaker 1: asked for the money for we now know did happen
Speaker 1: to her.
Speaker 2: We saw it on video, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But in addition to that, she told a story about
Speaker 1: when she was originally trying to get because a lot
Speaker 1: of this came from too before she fought that lawsuit.
Speaker 2: She was trying to release a book.
Speaker 1: She wanted puff to read the book, and you know
Speaker 1: she was going to move forward after that, and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah bla. Basically they played the book. They played
Speaker 1: her like, bro, you don't got the balls to put
Speaker 1: this out? This, ain't you this saying?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And she was like it
Speaker 2: was given that.
Speaker 1: She was like, oh, okay, back, I'm tired of y'all
Speaker 1: thinking that little old Cassie doesn't have a voice. Watch this,
Speaker 1: And then the lawsuit dropped. I think that they're there.
Speaker 1: If you're a good attorney, you can try and pull
Speaker 1: out motive of like no ill will like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, yes, all of these things are true.
Speaker 1: And in the prosecute, I mean, the defender, the defendants,
Speaker 1: the defend the people defendant did. He haven't ran away
Speaker 1: from the fact that he was a messed up person.
Speaker 1: He was messed up. He put his hands on her.
Speaker 1: They can't run away from it. They have evidence of it.
Speaker 1: But I think that it's going to really come back
Speaker 1: to buy her and her behind when she came out,
Speaker 1: and she decided to say, well, because because you didn't
Speaker 1: take my book serious, boom running my money and I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how you plan today. I don't know
Speaker 1: laws around that, but I just know listening to it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, they gonna tear her. I'm like almost
Speaker 1: like a little nervous for her, especially because she's so pregnant.
Speaker 1: And she broke down crying yesterday talking about you know,
Speaker 1: she was suicidal. She said that this was in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three. She was attempting to run into traffic at
Speaker 1: one point and her husband stopped her. At this point,
Speaker 1: Cassie has been going from Diddy, she's a mom, she's
Speaker 1: outliving her life again. She still just couldn't shake the
Speaker 1: trauma of what you know she went through in the
Speaker 1: aftermath of dealing with Diddy, Like, there's no way that
Speaker 1: this is not revictim I re traumatizing her.
Speaker 3: Well, my child and my stomach be kicking every time
Speaker 3: we talking about this.
Speaker 2: Really, yes, he was like him, No, he's uncomfortable with this.
Speaker 3: So I can only imagine and she's due before me,
Speaker 3: Like I can only imagine what she like emotionally, what
Speaker 3: she's going through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what girl, the way she broke down. She was
Speaker 1: strong the whole time, but the way she broke down.
Speaker 1: Even though I feel like I don't believe a lot
Speaker 1: of things after hearing her have a conversation yesterday, I
Speaker 1: still look at her as a victim, like for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: I just know I don't want to judge too much
Speaker 3: because I've never been in that positioned, Son, I don't
Speaker 3: fully understand the like you've said before, with that one
Speaker 3: instead of going getting raped and then going back like
Speaker 3: that doesn't doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 2: Or like other stuff, it doesn't make sense to us.
Speaker 3: To like wanting his approval, like I don't know what
Speaker 3: it feels like.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think the biggest thing that I learned
Speaker 1: from this, and I guess this is what we take
Speaker 1: away from the episode is is like you really can't
Speaker 1: judge a person in the situation because you know what's crazy.
Speaker 2: What I thought about after all that too, is.
Speaker 1: She held Diddy down for a long time because we
Speaker 1: knew she was going through things and we had heard
Speaker 1: certain stuff. But when I tell you the extent of
Speaker 1: what she dealt with yesterday. When I saw them photos,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, she kept quiet and smiled.
Speaker 2: Some days she was literally her face was so swollen.
Speaker 1: The next day they would literally ic it all day
Speaker 1: and then just put makeup on her and she'd be
Speaker 1: popping out at red carpet premieres with him smiling the
Speaker 1: next day. She held that down for years. That's why
Speaker 1: he paid her the money. I'm sure because he knew,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he knew what he you
Speaker 1: know what I mean when that happened, like held her
Speaker 1: down for years. Also, I mean, she held him down
Speaker 1: for years, man. Like people can't come at her about
Speaker 1: a lot because she took a lot.
Speaker 2: She held onto a lot. Also, make a note that.
Speaker 3: You guys listeners to Little Riders, you guys to know
Speaker 3: what line's talking about. Like she's in the courtroom. Some
Speaker 3: of the media outlets are putting out every single thing
Speaker 3: that's going on, so you have to read the transcript.
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting your press they're tweeting a live from the court.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we in the court.
Speaker 1: And when I recap, I don't really think about like
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm thinking about hell lies, but
Speaker 1: I really just wanting to tell y'all what is going
Speaker 1: on and when I'm witness and it be so much stuff.
Speaker 1: Like I'm sitting here with my nose right now trying
Speaker 1: to prepare and I'm like, Lord, I shouldn't fell asleep
Speaker 1: last night.
Speaker 2: But thank y'all.
Speaker 1: Fortuna And this is the latest with Laura the Rosa.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Lauren l Rosa. This she's your Deily
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Speaker 2: At the end of the day.
Speaker 1: There's always a lot to talk about and y'all could
Speaker 1: be anywhere doing it with you right here with me,
Speaker 1: So I appreciate y'all. I promise y'all were gonna balance
Speaker 1: out the news a bit more. I just feel like
Speaker 1: once we start to get once we start to talk
Speaker 1: a puff, it'd be hard to kind of pivot. It's
Speaker 1: so much stuff here. But thank y'all for tuning in.
Speaker 1: I'll be back in my next episode.