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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jagsam.

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Speaker 2: I'm Pat Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton and John Oger are

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Speaker 2: with me today.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: We've had a couple of days to relax and chill

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Speaker 2: out since that game on Sunday. So while we went

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Speaker 2: over a lot of issues on Monday, we're gonna try

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Speaker 2: to assess where things are at today and look forward

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Speaker 2: to Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Football. Big thing number one.

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Speaker 2: Doug isn't down as much as we saw him down

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Speaker 2: at the game on Sunday. Bounce back on Monday. We

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Speaker 2: heard from him saying all the right things as usual. Brian,

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Speaker 2: you've been around a lot of coaches during your day.

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Speaker 2: What is his mentality telling you?

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Speaker 3: Well, I understands there's a lot of football left if

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Speaker 3: you play, there's fifteen games left on the schedule, and

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Speaker 3: if you want to pull the ripcord here and fire

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Speaker 3: in Brimstone, not that there's not a place to light

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Speaker 3: guys up a little bit. You need to be steady, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, John, you worked with Tony Dungee, who was

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Speaker 3: the most level headed, steady gut. When it was time

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Speaker 3: to go up or to go down, players would listen

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Speaker 3: to you because you weren't going up and down every week.

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Speaker 3: So for Doug to come in and to be steady,

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Speaker 3: which I thought he was in his press availability yesterday,

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Speaker 3: is a really.

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Speaker 1: Important sign that they are.

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Speaker 3: They're circling the wagons, you know, they're putting pieces in

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Speaker 3: place to have a productive week, to go about fixing

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Speaker 3: things and not go about breaking things.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think he said exactly what he should say,

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Speaker 4: and what's the truth is that they've lost two games

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Speaker 4: on the last play of each game. He didn't say this,

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Speaker 4: but both teams are good teams. You clearly can beat

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Speaker 4: these teams. Had he stood on Monday and you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, knocked the podium over and thrown things at

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Speaker 4: the media, what good would.

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Speaker 1: It have done.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to win games by behaving differently than

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Speaker 4: he did.

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Speaker 1: His issue is.

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Speaker 4: All they can do right now as a coaching staff

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Speaker 4: is say, look, make the plays at the key moments.

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Speaker 1: They have to go do that.

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Speaker 4: They can do it, but they haven't done it since

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Speaker 4: last November.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I think that's part of what makes it so frustrating, right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it's self inflicted and at this point

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Speaker 2: just got to go out and.

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Speaker 1: Do it better.

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Speaker 2: So our second big thing today is going to be

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Speaker 2: trevor turning point. While the coach and the coaching staff

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Speaker 2: you want to remain level throughout the season.

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Speaker 1: It saw a little bit of fire out of Trevor.

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Speaker 2: John We talked about this earlier in the week, But

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Speaker 2: is this going to be a turning point for Trevor?

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Speaker 2: Is this what he needed to kind of get him

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Speaker 2: to that point where it's like, Hey, we need to

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Speaker 2: be accountable from everybody, not just him. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know. Was the answer to

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Speaker 1: your question. Will this be a turning point?

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Speaker 4: Can this be?

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Speaker 1: Must it be? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: I mean to me, when I was listening to Trevor

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Speaker 4: Lawrence after the game Sunday, I said, Oh, this is

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Speaker 4: a kid who's not a kid anymore.

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Speaker 1: He's grown up. It's his team.

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Speaker 4: He's had it with a discombobulation, He's had it with

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Speaker 4: the play clock being at one. When he snaps it,

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Speaker 4: he knows this has to look different and better.

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Speaker 1: He knows it's his team.

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Speaker 4: He knows it's his rear end on the line, his

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Speaker 4: reputation at stake.

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Speaker 1: You judge quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I think he came off the field that day into

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Speaker 4: the locker room saying you know what, if not now

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Speaker 4: when this is mine and he has to play better

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Speaker 4: to back all that up. But yes, I think this

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Speaker 4: is a watershed moment for Trevor. How it plays out,

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Speaker 4: I am fascinated to watch this week.

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Speaker 3: I feel comfortable in saying that if the Jaguars get

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Speaker 3: this thing turned around right, and we all know the

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Speaker 3: numbers about teams that start zero to two, you know

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Speaker 3: their probability making the playoffs is less than ten percent.

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Speaker 3: But I'll hold fast to the team that I saw

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Speaker 3: I think if they do that, if they're able to

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Speaker 3: talking about if this then that right to be in

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Speaker 3: the playoff scenario, We'll look back at this week and

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Speaker 3: Sunday postgame as being the turning point, the moment when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, phrase kay, I'm tired of being sick and tired. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think Trevor's tired of being sick and tired.

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Speaker 2: I'm tired of us all being sick, club, So this

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Speaker 2: is good. Our final thing today is going to be

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Speaker 2: bright spots. We're all going to do our best and

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Speaker 2: be positive because we are in week three, So let's

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Speaker 2: do this. What was a bright spot from the game, Brian,

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Speaker 2: What is one good thing you took out.

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Speaker 1: Of game two?

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Speaker 3: Well, all the young guys that you put into situations.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Brenton Strange was told an hour before the

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Speaker 3: have to make plays for his quarterback, and he did that.

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Speaker 3: Monterrek Brown had more time John, he had a whole

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Speaker 3: week to work with Chris Rashard, and what a great

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Speaker 3: played a really good football game perfect. No, we've talked

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Speaker 3: about young players, young players stepping up and making plays.

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Speaker 3: The bright spot to me is that there are guys

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Speaker 3: in in scenarios and situations that'll allow you to mix

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Speaker 3: things up. I don't want to say this is a

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a broken record. My brightest spot was Trevor

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Speaker 4: after the game. But I'll go a different direction. Brian

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Speaker 4: Thomas Junior obviously is a major bright spot. If you

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Speaker 4: there's still not enough of those.

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Speaker 1: There's good, good, good players, but.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that there's game winners, game wreckers everywhere.

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Speaker 4: He looks like he might be that. It's not vogue

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Speaker 4: this week to say the offensive line, because they were

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Speaker 4: But this team's running okay. At times it feels like

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Speaker 4: oh no, this is not gonna be good. So that's

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Speaker 4: a piece to build on. But I'm kind of grasping

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Speaker 2: There are a little bit grassman. We're gonna go over

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Speaker 2: some more of that. What we are looking forward to

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Speaker 2: this week for Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us as we.

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Speaker 2: Look around the AFC South sky.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Jagsam.

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Speaker 2: Today we're gonna talk a little bit about what's been

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Speaker 2: going on in the NFL as a whole, but also

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Speaker 2: around the AFC South because obviously the Texans are two no,

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Speaker 2: but everybody else is own two so and there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of parody around the league as a whole.

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Chiefs are obviously still a very good

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Speaker 2: debate at this point. So let's talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: about the Titans and the Jets. All the teams that

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Speaker 2: up in this season. We're going to play the Jets, obviously,

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Speaker 2: play the Titans twice as well. The Titans kind of

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Speaker 2: fallen apart a little bit at the end of that game.

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Speaker 2: Will lev Is turning the football over as coach. Not

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Speaker 2: too pleased with that effort there. It's kind of similar

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Speaker 2: but just seeing that as well. Calvin Bradley had two touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: a rushing touchdown and a receiving touchdown. But that's an

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Speaker 2: when you look at if we can get through this

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Speaker 2: section of the schedule, there are winnable games coming out.

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Speaker 3: I just the Titans are a team that's in such transition.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they had played bully ball, cave band style football.

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Speaker 3: Their identity was wrapped up in Derrick Henry. They still

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Speaker 3: modern style football. They just I don't think they have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a young team in transition, and what you

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Speaker 4: sort of wish with that kind of a team is

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Speaker 4: you wish you played him in September, because that's usually

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Speaker 4: when they haven't figured anything out yet. The danger of

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Speaker 4: a team like Tennessee. First year coach with some ability

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, players get it a little bit,

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Speaker 4: they decide they like playing for this coach, They decide

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Speaker 1: So they have a little bit of a surge.

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Speaker 4: You hope that you don't draw them when they're sort

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Speaker 1: So that's where you hope.

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Speaker 4: If the Titans are going to be a find themselves

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Speaker 4: team all year, you want to get them at points

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Speaker 4: where they're not feeling good about themselves and then, and clearly,

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Speaker 4: right now it seems like such a.

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Speaker 2: Point not finding themselves going up against the Jaguars, that

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Speaker 2: would not be great.

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Speaker 1: Let's look elsewhere. The Colts, who we thought had a

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Speaker 1: decent roster.

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Speaker 2: Obviously everything goes through Anthony Richards goes up against the Packers.

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Speaker 2: Packers playing without Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: They ran the ball I.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay was a good team going into this, but

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Speaker 2: just being able to adapt to what they're given and

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Speaker 4: It shows you the Packers are good, a good team

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Speaker 4: I kind of think back, boy, I'm aging myself. I

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Speaker 4: kind of think back to the Jonathan Gunn game. Oh yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: Everyone is dazzled by that incredible throw he made against

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Speaker 2: Yet, he's we'll see in person in Week five when

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Speaker 3: I think I was just saying, I think that Damico

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Speaker 1: They are a very dangerous team.

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Speaker 4: Look, I said, oh, off season, I thought the Jaguars

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Speaker 4: I don't know the Jargars are playing well enough right

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Speaker 3: You know what I've heard it said. It's true, Well

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Speaker 4: Well, think about last year the Texans felt sort of

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Speaker 4: All that felt tight all year, no matter what happens

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Speaker 1: They're way ahead. Get the win Monday, and then talk

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Speaker 4: But you asked me to talk about the South guy,

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Speaker 2: You have to look ahead, not too far ahead, just

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Speaker 1: This school that, this.

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Speaker 2: School two, little this or that for each day we're

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Speaker 1: Obviously everyone is talking about the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: You know, at this point of the season, generally teams

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Speaker 1: Let's make a change. I would make a change. I

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Speaker 3: When I watch the offensive line struggle, it's seventy four

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Speaker 4: I think it has to be considered so much what's

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: I get if they don't, because Week two you've spent

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Speaker 3: I could stick with seventy four playing Cam at left tackle.

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Speaker 1: See if a kid can do Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now some of it too.

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Speaker 4: And there were plays the other day where offensive line

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Speaker 4: defensive line the way they are the linebackers is a

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Speaker 4: little unusual the way they're doing it, But I kind

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Speaker 4: of get it because right now you're early in the

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Speaker 4: season and I haven't necessarily noticed a big drop off

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Speaker 4: when they've been playing Ventral Millen and Chad Mumas, So

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I would change that. What I

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Speaker 4: do find interesting is they're so rotating or they're doing

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Speaker 4: it so much. Teams if they get effective, they may

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Speaker 4: try to keep them on the field with some no

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Speaker 4: huddle or some you know, shady huddle, whatever you call it,

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Speaker 4: when you kind of keep the offense on there and

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Speaker 4: not allow them to substitute. One of the teams last

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Speaker 4: night or in Monday's game was doing that. Maybe there

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Speaker 4: could be an issue going forward for the Jags if

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Speaker 4: you had trouble substituting against a no huddle.

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Speaker 1: Agree with that.

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Speaker 3: Doug and Trent both talked about having young guys develop

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Speaker 3: because you'll need them later in the season. Ventro Miller

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Speaker 3: was not on the field at all last year because

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Speaker 3: of the torn achilles tendon they like him.

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Speaker 1: They want him to get.

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Speaker 3: Experienced so that he in November and December cannot only

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Speaker 3: keep Foy a fresh but in case Foyer is banged up,

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Speaker 3: as linebackers generally tend to get banged up. I think

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Speaker 3: we saw Trey Prince on the field the other day.

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Speaker 3: He came in, he made two or three plays, he flashed. Great,

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Speaker 3: he's getting some experience. In case Monteric Brown, who's what

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Speaker 3: about one hundred ninety pounds, has eleven tackles next week

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Speaker 3: and is sore and maybe hurt. That's Ryan Nielson and

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Speaker 3: Doug and Trent Balke working together to make sure that

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Speaker 3: these guys are being developed. You got to develop these guys.

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Speaker 3: I don't see them changing their philosophy. I do think

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Speaker 3: you'll see them tweak it. You know, in week one

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Speaker 3: they had a very specific plan when Eric Armstad was

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Speaker 3: going to be on the field. They were trying to

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Speaker 3: work him back into it. I wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 3: that doesn't change the next couple of weeks as we

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Speaker 3: get into big situations against quarterbacks like Josh Allen, who

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Speaker 3: was a really big guy, and you don't see that

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Speaker 3: tweak adjust.

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Speaker 2: Another quick one for you guys, just because something I

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Speaker 2: was thinking about as well, Mason Smith.

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Speaker 1: Are we gonna see him active again?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we have any further insight into that,

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Speaker 2: but I'd like to see some more of him, especially

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Speaker 2: with as much as they rotate.

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Speaker 1: It feels like if you draft it to play, it.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like he's got hurt. I mean, he did not

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Speaker 4: play in week two. There were some issues in week

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Speaker 4: one that they didn't like. From that spot, I thought

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Speaker 4: he made some I you can answer your question, yes,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna see him again because he did some good

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Speaker 4: things in week one. I saw him make a couple

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Speaker 4: of disruptive plays that you want to the field. You

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Speaker 4: also want to make sure that young players understand it

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Speaker 4: has to be earned.

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Speaker 3: Same thing that I just said, You got to develop

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Speaker 3: this kid. He was unblockable at times during training camp.

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Speaker 3: He is somebody whom you are expecting to step in

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Speaker 3: and replace Eric Armstead and replaced Devon Hamilton to.

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Speaker 1: Be that guy for the future.

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Speaker 3: And the only way he's going to be ready to

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Speaker 3: help you second round pick is if he's on the

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Speaker 3: field this year. Got to earn it, got to earn

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Speaker 3: your time. They're going to give him every bit of time.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you that the general manager will be banging

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Speaker 3: his fist on the table. You've got to get ninety

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Speaker 3: four on the field if you expect him to develop

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Speaker 3: and help us later in the year.

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Speaker 1: Very well.

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Speaker 2: Stay with here on jag Zam. Coming up after the break,

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a different week for us this

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Speaker 2: week because obviously we're going to be heading to Buffalo

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Speaker 2: for Monday night football, so things got pushed back a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit this week.

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Speaker 2: But as you get geared up, were you kind of

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Speaker 2: focusing on who are you talking to? What's the plans for

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Speaker 2: the weeknd?

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Speaker 3: I talked to Breton Strange yesterday in the locker room.

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't know, they're optimistic that Evan won't

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Speaker 3: go the way of Tyson to be an ir guy

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Speaker 3: with the hamstring, But I thought Strange was a great

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Speaker 3: example of a young player who was point blank asked, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you got to be the guy, and he was.

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Speaker 1: He was the guy.

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Speaker 3: He played really well from what I'm told, and he

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Speaker 3: is excited about more opportunities to make plays.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was sort of the classic guy last year

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Speaker 4: who probably should have been on the field more with

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Speaker 4: more opportunity. I never heard anything within the building that

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Speaker 4: they didn't like him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't playing.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: I'm not surprised that he's doing what he's doing, and

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Speaker 4: he feels like a guy who might matter a lot.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to have Brian Thomas Junior on the Ozone

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Speaker 4: podcast uh, which should run Friday ish, and I'm looking

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Speaker 4: forward to it.

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Speaker 1: He uh.

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Speaker 4: I feel like this kid is one of the three

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Speaker 4: or four guys who are gonna be the future of

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Speaker 4: the franchise for the next five, six, seven years.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a good one.

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Speaker 2: I'll definitely listen in say this here, we'll back on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: We'll do a little bit of a deep dive. What

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be like taking on the Bills on Monday

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Speaker 2: night Football