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Speaker 2: I think my wife is having an affair with her cousin.

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Speaker 3: How which cousin? First cousin, third cousin, fourth cousin?

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Speaker 2: Trigger warning for incest. This situation happened about two weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: and I've gone from fully trusting her to deeply doubting her.

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Speaker 2: That's tough one. My wife, twenty five female, and I

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Speaker 2: twenty six male, met when I was nineteen and we

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Speaker 2: fell in love quite quickly. She had a four month

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Speaker 2: old child from a previous relationship and that father hasn't

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Speaker 2: been in the pictures since I've known her. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I'm Sopha, I'm Dakota, I'm Riley.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're here to give good advice, goofy, but we

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Speaker 2: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do,

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Speaker 2: So let us know what you would do in the comments,

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Speaker 2: and op says, ever since I was a kid, I

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Speaker 2: wanted to you father, but I have a genetic disorder

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Speaker 2: I don't wish to pass on, so adoption was just

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Speaker 2: great with me. We've been like your normal family every

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Speaker 2: day since then. We got married last year. She was

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Speaker 2: never super close with her family, but she did have

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Speaker 2: a pair of cousins she was always kind of close

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Speaker 2: to maybe too close maybe, and I had lots of

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Speaker 2: fun getting to know them. She did mention that one

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Speaker 2: of them, Max, we see on Christmas every year and

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Speaker 2: he seems like a normal dude. I actually liked him,

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Speaker 2: as her family is a bunch of stuffed shirts and

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Speaker 2: he's down to earth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you and your shirt stuffing? What is this shit?

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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Recently, they've reconnected and gone to a few family functions.

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Speaker 2: We own one car, and since I needed it for work,

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Speaker 2: he picked her up and drove her to these things.

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Speaker 2: Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. Her behavior really didn't

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Speaker 2: make any obvious changes. However, Randomly, as I was watching

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Speaker 2: TV one night, she came in and mentioned that I

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Speaker 2: had friended a girl from my place of work. I

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Speaker 2: accepted a friend request. We're a pretty open couple and

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Speaker 2: things don't usually offend us. She didn't accuse me of cheating,

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Speaker 2: but it felt like she was about to, which has

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Speaker 2: never happened before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I noticed you accepted a friend request. When did

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Speaker 3: you start hating me?

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Speaker 2: Exactly?

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Speaker 4: This makes no sense when one partner's cheating in the.

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Speaker 2: Other person and then they're like, are you cheating?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Like so hypocritical.

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Speaker 4: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: It draws more attention to you.

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: Also, why are you being all huffy puffy.

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Speaker 4: And why are you so looking into what the other

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Speaker 4: person's doing whenever.

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Speaker 2: You're literally you may care about them.

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Speaker 4: Worry more about not getting caught.

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Speaker 3: Guy, Maybe the friend request caused the incest.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's gonna be her argue.

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Speaker 5: Maybe there was no funny business there until this friend request,

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Speaker 5: so you just had to friend that girl.

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Speaker 3: Now, good job of paying in my cousin, and it's

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Speaker 3: all your fault.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this because I've read cheaters accused their partner

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Speaker 2: as projection or something. These family outings were legitimate family

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Speaker 2: post pics on Facebook, and my wife sends picks from

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Speaker 2: the outings. There were two of these events, and each

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Speaker 2: time my wife came home she was like a robot.

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Speaker 2: Spicy sleep seemed normal, if not quieter than usual, But

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Speaker 2: since she suffers from depression, she often gets cold every

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Speaker 2: so often, and when I asked her if she was

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Speaker 2: doing all right, she chalked it up to that. Well.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, she leaves for work and it was

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Speaker 2: my day off. I puttered around the house, dropped the

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Speaker 2: email on Facebook. I saw that I had a message

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Speaker 2: from her cousin. He and I had recently discussed going

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Speaker 2: out to see a farm team baseball game, and I

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Speaker 2: thought he was getting back to me. The message reads,

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Speaker 4: Your knees, cousin, buy like praying to the Lord, like

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Speaker 4: when the umpire is on his knees catching the ball.

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Speaker 3: Wait he sent that message to you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he probably got the last name right, but the

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Speaker 2: I was refused as heck, until I realized that my

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Speaker 2: wife was still signed in and that it was her

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Speaker 2: he was talking to. Oh no, I wanted to hurt him.

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Speaker 2: I instantly rushed and read through their chat log, and

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Speaker 2: I was filled with him being into her. She was

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Speaker 2: saying things like but I'm married, Why is that your

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Speaker 2: first concern?

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Speaker 3: Girl?

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Speaker 4: Oh you're my cousin.

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Speaker 2: Why is that not your first concern?

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Speaker 3: We shared Grandpa.

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Speaker 5: We can't do it, yo, girl, Calm down, Hey chat GBT.

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Speaker 3: Where do I find the block button? Dude?

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Speaker 2: She's just trying to lower her score on the rice

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Speaker 2: purity test and now I'm married. But since none of

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Speaker 2: them mentioned anything happening yet and she's denying him, albeit kindly,

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Speaker 2: I can't exactly say she's cheating. She hasn't told you,

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Speaker 2: and her cousin is the one flirting with her, so

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Speaker 2: doesn't really matter if she's gone all the way with him, cousin.

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Speaker 4: Any other dudes out there, you could cheat with.

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Speaker 3: So many other fish in the sea, billions of them.

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Speaker 2: When she gets home and our son is put to bed,

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Speaker 2: I confront her of the situation. She instantly breaks down

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Speaker 2: into hysterics and tears, saying she didn't do anything and

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Speaker 2: I wanted to believe her and that he was just

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Speaker 2: being awful, but the way she didn't tell me and

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Speaker 2: asked if I could message him to tell him to

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Speaker 2: back off and how disgusted I am that they are cousins,

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Speaker 2: or if she would prefer to tell him and handle

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Speaker 2: it herself. She first expressed that she would tell him

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Speaker 2: that I knew and not to call her, but her

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Speaker 2: resolve cracked as she was confident this would just stop.

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Speaker 2: I was furious about that, but didn't express it and

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Speaker 2: told her that, knowing she wasn't going to, I was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the piece that doesn't like my wife, my girlfriend,

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Speaker 5: my wife, my wife's cousin, freakin' being all g ro

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Speaker 2: This is my wife. If she's being harassed, I will

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Speaker 2: end it. If she's not being harassed, she's cheating on me.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's glossing over the cousin bit in this story.

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Speaker 4: He might be a third cousin. At what cousin is it? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Nope? So I messaged him. He saw it, but made

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Speaker 2: no reply. The wife says I should have let her

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you, you weren't going to take care

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Speaker 5: of it. You're you haven't handling the situation, is not

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Speaker 2: You haven't taken care of it. This whole time, all

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Speaker 2: seemed to be returning to normal. But three days later

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Speaker 2: I come home and she's crying. I asked her what's wrong,

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Speaker 2: handle it. I messaged him yesterday and he won't talk

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Speaker 3: Why do you want to talk to.

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Speaker 2: Wh What do you mean girl? What do you mean you?

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Speaker 3: You want talk to me? What what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Uh? We have the conversation again about me not sitting

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Speaker 2: idly by when someone is pestering my wife. She gave

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Speaker 2: but it gave me the impression that she didn't consider

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Speaker 2: it intimidation. We ended the discussion in agreement that I

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Speaker 2: handled it how any man would handle it. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you did, to be honest, this is her cousin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know man.

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Speaker 2: Two days later, I'm coming to bed late, like two am,

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Speaker 2: as I was finishing up some work. I hear her

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Speaker 2: She told me it was her mom and had something

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Speaker 2: to do with our kid's birthday, which I didn't buy.

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Speaker 2: But at this point, I've been playing stupid so I

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Speaker 2: The next day, she's crying again, and at this point

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Speaker 2: I've really had enough. When I ask her if this

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, why would you want.

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Speaker 2: Why do you want my cousin? He was trying to

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Speaker 2: start an incestuous relationship with you to speak to you out.

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Speaker 5: I'm out, Sharks, I'm done, I'm out of here. I'm gone,

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Speaker 5: I'm out. I'm saying, it's really it's it's so weird.

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Speaker 5: I'm never gonna look at you and not see the

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Speaker 5: person who was just like, no, I'm married their own cousin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, it's so suspicious that you are not

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Speaker 2: I'm telling your whole family.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys see each other holidays because you're related.

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Speaker 2: If I had a cousin who did this, I'm immediately

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Speaker 2: telling my brother, my parents, saying, oh my god, don't

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Speaker 3: Their parents as well, telling my grandparents.

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Speaker 2: Telling my grandma. Everyone's knowing, and then I'm cutting them off.

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Speaker 3: Whole family's going to know about this.

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Speaker 2: No, you know what. I tell one aunt, but she

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Speaker 2: tells everyone everything, and then I only have to tell

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Speaker 2: one person, so it's quicker, more efficient.

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Speaker 4: Boom family function.

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Speaker 2: I told her that it sounds like she was cheating

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Speaker 2: on me, and I cut them. I'm essentially laying here

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Speaker 2: truth because if this is what it's feeling, more and

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Speaker 2: more like I'm about to go nuclear on both of them.

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Speaker 3: His finger is on the button. Push the button.

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Speaker 2: Comments, Do you have any thoughts before we get into

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Speaker 2: these comments?

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Speaker 5: Press that button, press it, press that button, press it,

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Speaker 5: press the button, Press the button. Your wife is scared.

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Speaker 5: I'm scared by your own cousin.

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Speaker 2: That was good, common one. I don't blame you for

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Speaker 2: being suspicious. This is messed up, but at least you

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Speaker 2: guys have tried to handle it through therapy. I'd keep researching,

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Speaker 2: but at some point if you have no evidence, then

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Speaker 2: see what your wife was hoping would happen. Why did

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Speaker 2: she feel the need to preserve the relationship with a creep?

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Speaker 2: Why are we just glossing over the fact that this

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Speaker 2: is our content. He's not just a creep, it's her

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Speaker 2: cousin creep. I don't know, oh piece, as we haven't

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Speaker 2: gone to therapy for this. I mentioned that she and

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Speaker 2: I were both mistreated as preteens in uninvolved scenarios. We

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Speaker 2: both went through extensive therapy because of this and have

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Speaker 2: talked about our abuse together and what steps and tools

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Speaker 2: we got to move past and move on. I brought

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Speaker 4: But yeah, if you don't divorce and say this is weird,

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Speaker 2: Truly, my response would be, you're a freak, this is weird.

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Speaker 4: It makes me kind of wonder if he's doing something

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Speaker 5: When your wife wants your cousin, it's hard to keep

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Speaker 5: loving update cousin, lovin, cousin love goodness, gracious.

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Speaker 2: I didn't sleep it all last night, and when she

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry if you find out your significant other is cheating.

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Speaker 2: Upset about it, especially with her cousin.

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Speaker 3: Well, at least it's in the family at least you

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Speaker 5: Right. At least she can go to the game and

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Speaker 5: split a hot dog, yeah, and say, wow, look at that.

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Speaker 3: That guy just hit a home run.

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Speaker 4: He's a familiar face around Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: That's probably what he's thinking. I'll give you that, you

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Speaker 2: It's not my stamp. She agreed like she wasn't even

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Speaker 4: This is how he acknowledges it cause he's a member

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Speaker 2: I wasn't going to snoop, but so many people on

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Speaker 2: what the heck and did just that? The level of disgust, hatred,

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Speaker 2: be a divorce. Yay, Thank goodness, Thank goodness. There was

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 4: That's uh, I'll explain it.

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Speaker 3: There's some sailors, sailors on her sale. She had to

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Speaker 2: The back and forths are him describing to her is

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Speaker 2: Then I read some absolutely disgusting filth talk between them

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Speaker 4: Dude, I what a doubt that they've been doing this

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Speaker 2: Legit, I'm divorcing, and then I'm telling everyone in the family.

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Speaker 4: You know what you can go to a marriage and

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Speaker 5: Did I think I'm doing it? It's anonymous. I'm disappearing

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Speaker 2: Changing my name.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sending in a Manila envelope with no nail

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Speaker 3: I'm just putting it in a mailbox.

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Speaker 5: And then I'm like walking into the sunset, never to

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Speaker 2: As I continue to read, I'm able to figure out,

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Speaker 2: starts using the I married excuse, but it's reading like

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Speaker 2: that's just a spicy hobby of his to be told

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Speaker 2: he can't touch her anymore, which he probably enjoys, and

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Speaker 2: raising her kid. And she does this to me. I've

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Speaker 2: I'm able to watch.

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Speaker 4: Him way as st Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yes, I agree.

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Speaker 4: Is this kid's name Jeffrey?

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Speaker 2: Probably man? She said he's not in the picture. If

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, kids are going to have superpowers.

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Speaker 2: I went outside and sat on the front porch called

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Speaker 2: These conversations have all been printed, and I've sent copies

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Speaker 2: part of his thing is having unprotected, spicy sleep with

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Speaker 2: and as such I've never once in all these years,

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Speaker 3: Oh brother, good luck, opie.

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Speaker 2: I know his work schedule roughly because I used to

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Speaker 2: Good on you. There's no fixing this. There's no therapy,

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Speaker 2: no hope, nothing positive, and I don't care to even

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is so so, so messy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there is a second up cousin will be

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know. Family, family is always there. Up

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Speaker 2: Day two. The last week and a half has been

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Speaker 3: Oh can't we make it funny? Spinning light up, buddy,

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Speaker 3: Come on.

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Speaker 2: The new information about my ex's relationship with Max started

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Speaker 2: eating me alive.

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Speaker 3: Oh like flesh eating bacteria.

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Speaker 2: I started imagining them sneaking off every time my back

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Speaker 2: If it makes you any feel any better, she clearly

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Speaker 2: is not okay nor stable if she's having an affair

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Speaker 2: This means that I will not be seeking any sort

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Speaker 2: get out from under her shadow. He's still young, I'm

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Speaker 2: from this. Cherry's life has been a living act for

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Speaker 3: She was relieved to finally see her family?

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Speaker 4: Does it run of the family relieved.

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Speaker 2: How when she introduced me as the ex husband of Max,

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Speaker 2: we were seeing each other. Is Sherry the ope he's

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Speaker 2: x did? He say, did you give her name?

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Speaker 4: Let me look up shery un momento, Oh cousin's wife.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, Cherry is the cousin's wife. You're right, Lou,

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Speaker 2: that makes sense. He took me aside like I expected

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think revenge was on his mind and he

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Speaker 3: He's like her new name, new social Security number, new live.

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Speaker 2: I explained to him that she and I had the

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Speaker 2: I told him I respected his sister and that our

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Speaker 3: Said dumb. I'm sorry, it's dumb.

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Speaker 2: I also told him that if they decided it was

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Speaker 2: When things were finally looking up, Cherry got a call

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Speaker 2: just goes nope. She told me that she told them

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Speaker 2: she'd consider it, but only because she didn't want to

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Speaker 4: You do not have to people please anymore.

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Speaker 2: As of writing this, he's been in the ICU for

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Speaker 2: I can't say I pity him. I don't wish passing

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Speaker 2: in ruining my marriage. I'm just here for Sherry until

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Speaker 2: she decides what she's going to do with her life

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Speaker 2: following this, Why just go away, go into the sunset.

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Speaker 5: Into a new place you've never been with people you

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Speaker 5: do not know and do not be the intimate confidante

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Speaker 2: I hear, is actually seeing someone now, which probably means

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Speaker 4: EO.

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Speaker 2: This is a hard reality check for me.

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Speaker 3: Well, she's definitely got more than one cousin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's part of my reason for not remaining in

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Speaker 2: and I'd have to sit back powerlessly and watch as

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Speaker 2: I still don't get what I did wrong. Nothing. I'm

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Speaker 2: I did my best to never make her feel unloved

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Speaker 3: She just didn't like your genes. You should have bought wranglers, dude.

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Speaker 2: If she's freaking seeing her cousin, if she's having an

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Speaker 2: I raised her kid, I helped her aunts and uncles

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Speaker 2: Her father and I used to go out for adult

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Speaker 2: it's not as if there was friction in how I

442
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 2: dealt with her family. My family adored and accepted her

443
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: and her son from day one. There were spicy issues,

444
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 2: I guess, but it's not like we had a spiceless marriage.

445
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: We could have had better communication there as there were

446
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 2: some conflicts over dominance, but I thought what we had

447
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 2: was strong enough to endure something like that. Turns out

448
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: there was really no relationship at all, just a dang illusion.

449
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: I wish I had something more positive to end this on,

450
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: but this will be my last update. If you're interested

451
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: to know what I intend to do with my life

452
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 2: moving forward. It's basically one of three options, all of

453
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 2: which will take place after this event with Max is over.

454
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 2: I can't imagine myself leaving Sherry in the middle of

455
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: all this, since she has been a constant pillar of

456
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 2: support for me this whole time. Option one, if Sherry

457
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: wants to move back to her home state when this

458
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 2: is over, I'll give her a kiss goodbye and send

459
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 2: her on her way. No offense to the state, but

460
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: I don't see a future for me there. If she

461
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 2: wants me to go with her, we will have a

462
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 2: discussion and I might do some research on the area.

463
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: She makes me happy, she feels how a loving partner

464
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 2: ought to feel.

465
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,679
Speaker 5: Are you sure that out of all the people on

466
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 5: earth you could end up with it has to be

467
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 5: the one person who is intrinsically involved in the affair?

468
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: Lae, but you just went through.

469
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: Just could never tell anyone what happened, how you met

470
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: your wife.

471
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: How'd you guys get together?

472
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 2: Well, our ex partners got together with their cousin.

473
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: It was just kind of faity.

474
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: He's not gonna tell her how much he means to me,

475
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,959
Speaker 2: because I want her to make the choices that are

476
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: best for her and her daughter without me clouding her judgment.

477
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: If in the course of our discussion she tells me

478
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: she loves me and wants to give us an honest try,

479
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell her how I feel and we'll go from there.

480
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to be morbid, but if Max doesn't

481
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: pull through, we're both leaving the state anyway. Option two.

482
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: If Sharry and I don't continue our relationship, the answer

483
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: is easier. I have friends and family on the West

484
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: Coast that I've been missing, and my careers more opportunities

485
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: for advancement there. Anyhow, I could really rediscover myself on

486
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: my own and make a life for myself. In all honesty,

487
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: this is probably what I'll most likely do. Go surfing again,

488
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: stay in shape, find someone who will actually love me,

489
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: start a family. The possibilities are endless. I mentioned this

490
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: to Sherry, and she expressed some interest and making a

491
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 2: move like that, because she's never been out west before.

492
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: That would be an undertaking. But if the love and

493
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: willingness are there, I'd be happy to date her for

494
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 2: several months before deciding to take that step. There is

495
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: a little bit left to this story.

496
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 4: I just found four more updates.

497
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I'm gonna put them in.

498
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna have to read them back. I'm sorry.

499
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 4: I was like, this can't be it. Okay, so this

500
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 4: is gonna be a little longer one.

501
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: But holy gal, so over under.

502
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 5: They end up going to California and then breaking up

503
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 5: because she's like, yeah, I don't know. I think I

504
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 5: was in a weird place when I decided to move

505
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 5: across the country with the only other person on earth

506
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 5: who was involved in this in.

507
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 3: Shane affair that I went through, a'm Shari.

508
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 5: Maybe she moves out to California and they both fall

509
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 5: in love with the same surfer, and now they're in there,

510
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 5: Free come Polly, and the surfer becomes their unicorn, and

511
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 5: then it's real field that the surfer is a long

512
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 5: lost relative both and then that turns into a movie

513
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 5: script and it's called first cousins or no, it's called

514
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 5: cousins first cousins, first lovers second, but there's more no,

515
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 5: no lover's first second cousins.

516
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: There we go, There we Go. That's the title.

517
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: Terrible. Option three. I could just remain here and climb

518
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 2: the latter at work, now that there is nothing preventing

519
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: me from doing that. I'm currently a quality control floor

520
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 2: supervisor in the manufacturing industry. Most guys who've worked year

521
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: as long as me have already gone corporate and sit

522
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: behind a desk, and that should have been me as well,

523
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: but they needed a night supervisor, and I couldn't take

524
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: the position before because of family. I could just remain

525
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: here and flourish, get myself a new girlfriend, or if

526
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: for some reason Sherry stays here pursue a lasting relationship

527
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: with her. I'm also looking into my disorder to see

528
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: if any advancements have been made. Maybe there's a way

529
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: I could have my own children now with no fear

530
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: of passing anything. I haven't looked into it in over

531
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: a decade, so who knows. Once more, it's still the

532
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: start of a lifetime journey, and I'd be lying if

533
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: I said I felt good about it. But things must

534
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: go on, oh boy, eh.

535
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: And we don't know what happened to the cousin.

536
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: We don't.

537
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 5: We don't know what happened to him. Well, maybe we'll

538
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 5: find out in these updates.

539
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: Anyway, three months since my d day and my life

540
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: is almost unrecognizable.

541
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: Probably be in a good way, Yeah, I would hope

542
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: in a good.

543
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: Way, I know. Two months ago I titled my last

544
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: update as my last update, but I figured since there

545
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: are some fairly huge developments in my walk down this

546
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: crazy road, i'd share it all with you, TLDR. If

547
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: this is my first post you're seeing. Back early July,

548
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: I came across some disgusting Facebook messages between my soon

549
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: Bex and her cousin Max, with some further snooping, I

550
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: discovered that they've been schmeckshally involved for at least ten years,

551
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: which predates my relationship with her. The first person I

552
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: told was Sherry, Max's wife. She out them on social

553
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: media pretty heavily. My ex took my stepson and moved

554
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: back in with her parents, and I remained in my

555
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: current apartment. During the first few weeks after the discovery,

556
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: Sherry and I met up for emotional support and to

557
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: exchange evidence of the affair to help each other's divorce cases.

558
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: It escalated to a physical relationship and currently she is

559
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: my girlfriend. Jerry's husband vanished from the picture after being outed,

560
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: and though it was ultimately ruled as accidental ooh. Max

561
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 2: ingested a lethal amount of anti freeze and as of

562
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 2: the day after my last update passed away oof. Things

563
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: for Sherry turned ugly almost instantly. Max's parents up until

564
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,479
Speaker 2: that point had sided with her on everything, even allowing

565
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: her to remain in their second home with her daughter.

566
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: Max's passing turned the situation around, and they began blaming

567
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: her for it, mainly because of how she outed him

568
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: so publicly. Secondly, the week before this happened, my soon

569
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: to be ex's parents spotted Sherry and I on a

570
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: date looking cozy together. We wanted to keep it all

571
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: on the down low until the divorce, but we were outed,

572
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: and nobody on any side of this, my folks or

573
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: hers was thrilled with it.

574
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, we're not through with it either, Opie.

575
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

576
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: I just don't really care much about that relationship. I

577
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: don't think your family has any right to comment on

578
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: your relationships after you went through what you went through.

579
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: Man.

580
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: In my last update, I said that I would be

581
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: unable to remain a step father to my ex's son,

582
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: but in practice, for a few weeks I resolved to

583
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: be a weekend father against my own misgivings. I love

584
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: him too much, as it turns out, to walk away.

585
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 2: I would have been able to continue seeing him regularly,

586
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: but the ex decided to end that. Once you found

587
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: out Sherry and I were an item, Wow, you are

588
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: a hypocrite. I still see him, in fact, I took

589
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: him apple picking last weekend, but it's clear she's not

590
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: going to allow me to have regular weekly visits. Our

591
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: divorce hearing is scheduled for mid November, and aside from

592
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,120
Speaker 2: the occasional call to check it on my step son.

593
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: She and I have gone no contact good. I've since

594
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: learned that she had two more affairs before we were married,

595
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: and one during the marriage.

596
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: Oh.

597
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: When our mutual friends heard about the impending divorce, they

598
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: came forward and mentioned times where they were suspicious of

599
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: her behavior with these two, and you didn't say anything.

600
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: Really glad they stayed silent about these concerns for years. Now,

601
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 2: I don't trust a single one of them. Nothing like

602
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: finding out that everybody thinks you're an oblivious moron when

603
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: you already think you're an oblivious moron. None of that

604
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 2: really matters. And at this point, it's kind of like

605
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: falling down and scraping my knee after getting shot, Like, yeah,

606
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: it sucks, but comparatively not so much.

607
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

608
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: I mean, like OPI you've probably gone through one of

609
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: the worst things that you could go through.

610
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like death would have been better

611
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: than this.

612
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: I mentioned now. Sherry's former in laws turned on her,

613
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: and because of their constant harassing phone calls and threats

614
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: of eviction, I offered to let her move in with

615
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: me for the time being. Her original was to move

616
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: back to her home state to be with her family.

617
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: But we're just trying to figure out the best way

618
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: to do this. I know some people are going to

619
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: call us stupid, but after living together for a week,

620
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: we decided on not going our separate ways and that

621
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: we'll make a go of it in a real relationship.

622
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely nobody in our families are cheering this on, as

623
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: they both rightly think we went too fast, and maybe

624
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: we did, you for sure did. But we're both very

625
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: happy together and I wish you all the best.

626
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: Of luck, goodness, gracious each other.

627
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean you're trauma bonded, which is not

628
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: necessarily the best start to a relationship.

629
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, the way you're coping with all of it is

630
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 4: a little rash.

631
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: Hey, at least you guys get each other.

632
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: You may be the only people that do. I've also

633
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: learned in this time that Sharing never finished high school,

634
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: as she moved to be with Max before she graduated.

635
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: He also wanted to have that traditional family outside of cousin,

636
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: effing and infidelity roles, so she doesn't have much experience working.

637
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: She's currently working on getting her ged, and her family

638
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: offered to pay for her to go attend some form

639
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: of higher education, provided she moves closer to home. As

640
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: it turns out, there happens to be plenty of work

641
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: in my field around where her family lives, and what

642
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: with the current political bs, it's probably better to move

643
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: out of the city anyway. Houses are also cheaper there

644
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: and the idea of owning my own house is pretty tempting,

645
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: so I'll most likely head out that way myself when

646
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: she does. Cherry and I are very close and have

647
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 2: really taken well to living together. We've been both in

648
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: therapy over this, and there's been a few times we've

649
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: even gone with each other to the other's appointment.

650
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: I would love to know what the therapist thinks about

651
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: all this.

652
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: Me too.

653
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: The therapist is they're thinking, here comes the money.

654
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: Oh, They're like, we're gonna see you maybe three times

655
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: a week. Let's go, let's go through time.

656
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna live in your house.

657
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, let let's just do it again, back to back session.

658
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: We are both learning together what a relationship ought to be.

659
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 2: I've only had two long term relationships in my life,

660
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 2: and from my ex wife, I had just accepted it

661
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: as normal that we were pretty distant from each other.

662
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: There was no lack of spicy intimacy between us, but

663
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: I've realized just how much the X and I were

664
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: living in two separate worlds under the same roof. Cherry

665
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: experienced similar feelings with Max. She texts and calls me

666
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: frequently for no reason. We talk about our days, sit

667
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: down to dinner together. She also cooks a lot, which

668
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: has sparked an interest in it for me, so over

669
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: the last few weeks we've been finding interesting things to

670
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: make together, and it's fun a shared interest and activity.

671
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: Six years with my ex and I can't remember what

672
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: our thing was or if we really had anything. I've

673
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 2: kept it together pretty reasonably all things considered, But when

674
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: I had a moment alone, I shed some tears over

675
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: the fact that the last six years of my life

676
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: were completely meaningless, that I've got nothing to show for it.

677
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: A feeling passed pretty quickly. Jerry has her bad days.

678
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: The therapy has really kept her afloat because in the

679
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: week following Max's passing, I was very afraid she might

680
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: do something to hurt herself. I am making sure to

681
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 2: make time for myself to heal, but helping her keep

682
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: it together was really instrumental in keeping me moving forward.

683
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: That's a really hard sentence to believe.

684
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: Op.

685
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, apologies. If you're on a plane and the auxygen

686
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 4: mask go down, who do you put on first? What

687
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: do you do first?

688
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: The women and the children?

689
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: No, you put your own first.

690
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: Whenever she isn't feeling down. We're connected at the hip.

691
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: I just feel like you guys are maybe codependent. Probably, Yeah, it's.

692
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: Almost like you guys started this relationship on the trama

693
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: bond most unstable, like not even you built the house

694
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 5: on sand.

695
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: You built the house on an active volcano.

696
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: Yes, with toothpicks, so the house burned volcano.

697
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: You've built that house.

698
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: Canoes are related to each other.

699
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 5: Directly on two tectonic plates that are currently shifting and

700
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 5: are related to each other.

701
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: And also from the same family.

702
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: We go to bed at the same time together, and

703
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: get up together, share the shower sometimes a lot of

704
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: things I didn't know I needed in my life. Plus

705
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: I gotta do some parenting stuff, such as feeding and

706
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: putting her daughter down for sleep, which has made it

707
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: so my dad instincts are still fed. The ex has,

708
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: of course learned of the relationship, and that's gone about

709
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: as well as you might expect She too blamed Sherry

710
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: for what Max did to himself. She seems to think

711
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: everything would have been better if we kept things between

712
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: ourselves in the breakup, rather than Sherry blowing up Facebook

713
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: with the news. I mean, in part, I don't agree

714
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: with that because that's what your ex wife said. Uh,

715
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: your ex wife can go. I don't know Kick Rocks

716
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: for all I care. However, I think for Sherry's sake,

717
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: they never need to post all of that drama online.

718
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: It doesn't really help you. She says she would have

719
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: never left our apartment if she knew that Cherry was

720
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: going to move in before going on a tirade of

721
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: how smexually inadequate. I apparently am before I had to

722
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: hang up on her November and my divorce can't come

723
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: fast enough. Okay, last paragraph, I swear. But I started

724
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: writing this a couple of days ago, and as of

725
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: this morning, Cherry took two pregnancy tests and both came

726
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: back positive. So this is a curveball I haven't been expecting.

727
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: As everyone who's read my other posts knows, I'm terrified

728
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: of passing on my bone disorder. We spent the day

729
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: talking about it. She has gotten her period after she

730
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: separated from Max, so that's not a possibility, So it

731
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: must have been me getting careless.

732
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: Wait, what Schure's pregnant? Ex?

733
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 5: Have we not listened to the words of Lil Wayne Safe,

734
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 5: spicy sleep, great, spicy sleep. Better wear your late text

735
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 5: because you don't want that link text that I think

736
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 5: I'm late text.

737
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great, that was really good.

738
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: Thanks Little Wayne.

739
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,120
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740
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,839
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741
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742
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: She's gotten her period after she separated from Max, so

743
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: that's not a possibility. So it must have been me

744
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: getting careless. Still need a doctor's appointment to confirm, which

745
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: is set up, and we've been googling about my condition

746
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: all day. The good news we can find out as

747
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: early as the fourteenth week if the child has or

748
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: moderate case. This year keeps piling on. If the child

749
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: is healthy, I'll be happy no matter what. Neither her

750
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: or I are big on the idea of terminating a pregnancy, unless,

751
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: of course, they see a severe case, which in many

752
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: case means passing at birth. So many worries, We've chosen

753
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: to be happy with this until we see what's up

754
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: at week fourteen. I'm in love with her, she's in

755
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: love with me, and we're spiraling headlong into I don't

756
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: effing know what. Yeah, dude, you're a boy. Oh boy, boy,

757
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 2: oh boy.

758
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: This is the less sentence.

759
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 2: But I'm afraid, hopeful, but so afraid. I've been praying

760
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: on it and to who, I don't know. I'm an atheist,

761
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: and there is a fourth update. But wow, oh my gosh,

762
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: y'all are going so fat.

763
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: Dude, you're literally starting a family with your wives, a

764
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 4: fair partner who happens to be also your wife's cousin.

765
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: Wife, a fair partner, cousins ex.

766
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 5: This is why some people just stay inside and don't

767
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 5: do anything, and they don't go out like this could

768
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 5: happen to you.

769
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: Out a drop of a hat.

770
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 5: This is why we should have just walked into the

771
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 5: sunset whistling a little tune yep, instead of I don't know,

772
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 5: making a baby yeah, with the wife of your ex's

773
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: affair partner.

774
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: Dude who drank anti free.

775
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 4: You should have just become Johnny Appleseed instead of planting

776
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: seeds and sherry.

777
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: That is the wildest pull out of nowhere.

778
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: I have ever heard one year update to I twenty

779
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: six mail think my wife twenty five female is or

780
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 2: was cheating on me with her cousin a year ago.

781
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: Today was the day I made the most life changing

782
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: discovering I'd ever made in my life. But I didn't

783
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: know it at the time. I just sat down to

784
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: check Facebook. So I had a message and realized after

785
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: I clicked it that it was my then wife's account

786
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: that was active. Inside were messages of a spicy nature

787
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: from her cousin Max that got the ball rolling. And

788
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: within three weeks of this message, Max's then wife, Sherry,

789
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: and I collected evidence of their affair stretching back to

790
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: the days of MySpace.

791
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's crazy because this was four years ago.

792
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 4: When did MySpace become a thing?

793
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: So this has been going on well long long.

794
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: Like probably early two thousands MySpace like five Yeah, and these.

795
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: People are like family affair for over a decade.

796
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is also kind of concerning. I'm like, what

797
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 2: was going on in their home life and through the trauma,

798
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 2: she and I began supporting each other and then dating

799
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: a year later. She is the mother of my firstborn child.

800
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: This affair has changed the lives of so many people

801
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 2: involved and surrounding it. Max, my exes cousin, and a

802
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: fair partner passed. Cherry has been living on a property

803
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: owned by Max's parents, and they had taken her side

804
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: when the affair was made public, but took back their

805
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: support when he passed, ring they'd a victor or worse.

806
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: She and her daughter moved into my apartment. Max's passing

807
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: also saw my ex openly hated and despised by her

808
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: family for her role in the affair. They had been

809
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: blaming him for it and acting as though Max was

810
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: a predator that had been abusing her until he passed,

811
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: and then the blame got shifted to her. She's no

812
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: longer welcome at family gatherings and the only people she

813
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: speaks to is her own parents, and I think the

814
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: only reason they haven't disowned her is because of my

815
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: former step son. I mean, like, yeah, how do you

816
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: You never got to see your family after my ex

817
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: wife has been letting me continue to see my step

818
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: son after we split. My relationship with Sherry was outed

819
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: around the time of Max's passing, and this ultimately led

820
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: to her fighting me over it. It still baffles my mind.

821
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: That even after I caught her in a ten year

822
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: long affair, she had the audacity to act as though

823
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: me seeing another woman was some sort of crime worth

824
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 2: taking away the sun I had raised since he was

825
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: only a few months old.

826
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: Now, Okay, you're right, but it's not just some woman.

827
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, that shouldn't really have any comp do with her.

828
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: It's more just like I don't.

829
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: Know, I just I just don't know.

830
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: This is truly a we said it before. This is

831
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: a move to a new continent type of event, and

832
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: instead you moved next door.

833
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Ultimately, though, I decided on my

834
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: own to walk away from the entire situation, as I

835
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: felt like our constant fighting and my lack of legal

836
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: authority over him would lead to him being even more

837
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: unhappy and traumatized than if I just left.

838
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: But you didn't really walk away from the whole thing.

839
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 5: You basically walked as close as you could to the

840
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 5: thing without still being in the thing.

841
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: Ah, those of you following me or reading the comments

842
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: of other posts will know that Sherry and I have

843
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: relocated to her home state. That's at least something where

844
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: I've started a new job and we're currently renting a home.

845
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 2: We are also both in therapy individual and we're being

846
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: counseled together. We both understand that a lot can go

847
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: wrong with relationship shops that formed the way ours did,

848
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: and we both want to work on communication and growing

849
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: with one another so we can better navigate the tough

850
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: times when they come. We're both survivors of infidelity. The

851
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: story of how we fell in love can never be

852
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: a cute story to tell the kids. One thing I

853
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: learned about my marriage through therapy is just how much

854
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 2: my own parents terrible marriage has affected me. My dad

855
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: is a good guy, a loving father, and my mother

856
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: is a wonderful woman, but their relationship is a mess.

857
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: My ex wife and I never really fought or got

858
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: into huge fights. Now kid living in a home with

859
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: a loveless marriage, I always knew when things were bad,

860
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: the loud arguments and the yelling and what have you.

861
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: When things were quiet, things were good. It wasn't happy,

862
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: it wasn't healthy, but it wasn't outright conflict, so I

863
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: associated it with good and healthy. My ex wife, in

864
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: all likelihood, never loved me, and I'm coming to realize

865
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: that just because we didn't fight and there was no

866
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: outward conflicts. This by no means means things were happy.

867
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: Sorry, just really quickly to comment from Rennie's saying, this

868
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: is my guy.

869
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 5: You're banging the kids cousin's mom. It's like, yeah, Sherrie's

870
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 5: yild is still technically the cousin. Yeah, your ex's child

871
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 5: of like.

872
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: Your step son.

873
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 5: So no matter what, you are still technically within this

874
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 5: same family that you were in rough in one way

875
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 5: or nothing. Can you imagine being one of those kids

876
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 5: and ending up learning the deep lore like how earth shattering?

877
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 4: That would be Game of Thrones type lor.

878
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: Truly, I was really good. It's just my only point

879
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: of reference for goodness in a marriage was quiet, and

880
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: I had quiet. I'll speak for Sherry a little, as

881
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: she's given me the permission to share. But she had

882
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: been made to feel completely dependent upon Max for everything

883
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: they met online, dated long distance, and he convinced her

884
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: to move in with them, even if doing so meant

885
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: she'd be dropping out of school. He also wanted to

886
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: be one of those man of the house dip, so

887
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: he didn't allow her to work. No work, no school

888
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: pretty much meant no friends outside of Max and my

889
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: ex's family, even worse. A year into it, he revealed

890
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: to her that he was by and informed her he'd

891
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: seen men every so often, and, not knowing how to

892
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 2: handle it, just accepted that situation. I'm sorry. He comes

893
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: out to her and he's like, yeah, so I cheat

894
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: on you every so often, And she's like.

895
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 5: Okay, this is the kind of guy that like that's

896
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 5: how like by people get like that bad rap.

897
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's a cheater. Has nothing to do with

898
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: him being by. He just is a cheater. No, And

899
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: also like he's like, it's I have to cheat on you,

900
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: couzin by.

901
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: No, She's just like, oh no.

902
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: She is now working on a means to get her

903
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: ged so she can find a job should she choose to.

904
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to provide for the mother of

905
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: my child, but after not having a say in her

906
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: own life for so long, she needs to be free

907
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: to decide what she wants to do with it. Last

908
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: I heard about my ex is that she got into

909
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: an altercation at a parking meter with a traffic cop

910
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: or meter maid, and the incident led to her arrest

911
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 2: and discovering a whole host of prescription medication. At first,

912
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: I was told that she stole it from someone, but

913
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: it turns out she's been doctor shopping. She ended up

914
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: doing some token three weeks of jail time, and her

915
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: parents are currently fighting to have custody of my steps on.

916
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: Life got difficult for her real quick. It seems honestly

917
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: like she's had a really hard life for a very

918
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: long time.

919
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: And the Yep.

920
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: I could write all day about this, but I'm going

921
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: to end it here and answer questions if anybody wants

922
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: to get more specific, but I think that just about

923
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: does it. Thank you all for the support everyone. You

924
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: Internet folks really helped talk me through all this. And

925
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: there's a fit update.

926
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 5: It just keep going, It never ends.

927
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 2: Yikes.

928
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: Well the kids, Okay, me too.

929
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: Those are the people I care most about in this story,

930
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: these poor kids. But there is enough Shay plans on posting.

931
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: A few days ago, Sherry created her own account and

932
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: plans on doing as I did and writing it all

933
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: out as it happened with her oh posting on Reddit.

934
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so are we gonna read that one next?

935
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. She's been aware of my posting since the third

936
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: or fourth one and always loves reading the thoughtful comments

937
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 2: and interactions that I have with everyone. As I said

938
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: in my last update, we're in counseling together, and I

939
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: brought up the fact that I post on here as

940
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: a way of getting it out of my system, putting

941
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: it all out there, and she expressed interest in doing

942
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: the same as a therapeutic exercise. Sherry's post, Oola La,

943
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Sherry's post.

944
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: Here's johani og host here.

945
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's a

946
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: quick three minute break of as from our sponsors.

947
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: Hello strangers, my name is not Sherry daunt du.

948
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: The biggest twist.

949
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: Of all bigg is a twisted this whole episode, but

950
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: a lot of people on Reddit would know me by

951
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: that name. For a year, my boyfriend has been posting

952
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: and updating about his ex wife's affair with my ex husband,

953
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: and a lot of the comments I have read have

954
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: been the sweetest, most helpful advice I've ever heard. He

955
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: didn't want to show me what he was posting, but

956
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 2: after he found out I watched Reddit videos on YouTube,

957
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: he showed me his profile and I've been reading them

958
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: and giving input on them too. As he writes, my

959
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 2: ex husband, the one that is called Max in illustrious

960
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: Fox eight zero zero posts We met online when I

961
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: was still in school. I was sixteen and he was eighteen,

962
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: but we grew close pretty quick and started a long

963
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: distance relationship. He visited me once in my home state

964
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: for a week when we decided we were going to

965
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: move in together. My father I never liked Max from

966
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: the start. Also, that's crazy what you.

967
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: Saw him once for a week and you were gonna

968
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: move in together.

969
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: My first red flag was when he came over to

970
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: meet my parents for the first time. He was wearing pajamas.

971
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: This man has no respect for anyone.

972
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: For the rest of the relationship, they never called in

973
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: my boyfriend or fiance, just a boy. Damma boy coming over.

974
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: We both loved anime and I'm an introvert, so for

975
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: a while, he and like two of my friends, were

976
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: really the only people I talked to. I never thought

977
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: he was a bad person. I always thought he was

978
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: like me and just awkward and not used to crowds

979
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: or social situations. He was always mailing me DVDs, figures

980
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: and clothes I liked when he wasn't around, and in

981
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: the beginning, he really did a lot to make me

982
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: feel like he loved me. In my senior year of

983
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: high school, he convinced me that we had to live

984
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: together and be together. He did not threaten to break

985
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: up with me, but he did start saying things like

986
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: this was the prime of his life and that he

987
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 2: could be dating and sleeping around but didn't because of me.

988
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: Oh wow, so he's also a liar too. That's crazy.

989
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 5: So when anyone ever says that to you, you say, well,

990
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 5: don't let me stop you, because we're not together anymore.

991
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: Right ahead. I told him I wanted to finish out

992
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: the year and told him this, and for a day

993
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: or so he talked like he was okay with it,

994
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: only to start guilting me about the life I was

995
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: keeping him from living. My own life was not I deal,

996
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: and being a stupid kid, I gave in, stopped going

997
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: to school, and took a bus up to be with him.

998
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: Things changed almost the instant I got there. He wasn't abusive,

999
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: didn't hit me or insult me, but it seemed to

1000
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: me at the time that he had lost all spicy

1001
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: interest in me. We would have spicy sleep, but not often,

1002
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: and where once he seemed out going, he now never

1003
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: wanted to leave his parents' house for any reason.

1004
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: He moved into his parents' house.

1005
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: We were still friends, but for two years of our relationship,

1006
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: all we really did was play video games from the

1007
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: time we got up in the morning until the time

1008
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: we went to bed. He also started gaining weight from

1009
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: all the delivery food he ordered, literally every day, just

1010
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: to get out of the house. I got a job

1011
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: at a pet store, where I made my first friends

1012
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: in that state. The whole time we were together, he

1013
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: worked in an office warehouse for a drug store chain.

1014
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: So my life before pet store was waking up seeing

1015
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: him leave for work, having awkward conversations with his and

1016
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: parents until he came home, and then video games.

1017
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: Honestly, like hell on Earth.

1018
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I started thinking about leaving him a year

1019
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: into this. I felt he worked really hard to get me,

1020
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: but once he had me, he stopped trying or caring.

1021
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't long after this that he revealed to me

1022
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: that he was by no big deal. I am too,

1023
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: But he started what I can only describe as passive

1024
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: guilting me. He talked about being attracted to men, and

1025
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: now that was a part of his life he could

1026
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: never explore. Now, dude, you suck man, you just go

1027
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: breaking sock.

1028
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: I explore all that you want. Bye bye, have fun.

1029
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: I moved back to my parents' house. I say, you

1030
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: were right about pajama boy. I'm sorry.

1031
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: We started arguing over it, and eventually I said something

1032
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: stupid like go get it out of your system. I

1033
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 2: didn't know this would become a common thing. Through his phone,

1034
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: I accidentally discovered that he had met up with a

1035
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: man for spicy sleep. I confronted him over it. We fought,

1036
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: he apologized, promised he would never do it again, and truthfully,

1037
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: I wanted to move back home, but when this all happened,

1038
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: I didn't have the best relationship with my parents, and

1039
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: I thought moving home might be worse. Nothing could be

1040
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 2: worse than this. This happened twice more, and I forgave

1041
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 2: him two more times, or at least I said I did.

1042
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: I started saving up money from my job and planned

1043
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: to leave him and get my own place. But before

1044
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: I could do much, I discovered I was pregnant.

1045
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: Ah man man oh man ah.

1046
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: Instantly, his interest came back and he was extremely nice

1047
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: to me again. I threatened to leave if you cheated

1048
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: it again, and I told him that we had to

1049
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: change and couldn't keep living at his parents because I

1050
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: was ashamed of being our age and still doing that,

1051
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: and to still do that with a child would make

1052
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: me feel worse. To his credit, he did change and

1053
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: started cleaning up. It was then that we decided that

1054
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: we would move into his parents' second home. They had

1055
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: a second home this whole time and you weren't living there,

1056
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: and began renting from them as the tenants that were

1057
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: previously renting had left. And it was during our move

1058
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: that I met his cousin, who I will call Jennifer.

1059
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 2: He likes dont Dont duh. I really liked her at first,

1060
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: as we were into the same kind of music and

1061
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: anime and had the same sense of style. She also

1062
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: had a little boy and started to give me young

1063
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: mother advice. When we were moving into our home, she

1064
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: and Illustrious Fox I'll call him John from now on,

1065
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: brought over a lot of their son's baby furniture, a

1066
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: crib and so forth, and I was very thankful. But

1067
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: then he started hanging out with jen a lot. She

1068
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: got him concert tickets for his birthday and took him out.

1069
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: He got a weekend job at a Halloween.

1070
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: Carbival Hornaval Harnaval, and she.

1071
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: Was always posting pics of herself there with him and

1072
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: his coworkers. She started to seem a little needy and

1073
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: close to him, but they were cousins, so I didn't

1074
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: think anything was wrong with it, or if I did,

1075
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: I called myself crazy for thinking that. I mean, yeah,

1076
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: that's a fair response. That is the last thing I

1077
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: would expect. He also started wearing kilts around this time.

1078
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 2: It was weird, but he's Scottish, so I figured it

1079
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: was him awkwardly embracing his hairtage. Then they went from flannel,

1080
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: tartan whatever designs to wearing one made of denim that

1081
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 2: just looked like a skirt. Well, that's not actually that crazy.

1082
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: It just seems like he's playing with like different clothes

1083
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: and stuff. He sucks, But.

1084
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 5: Also I can't believe Opi he's like and then then

1085
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 5: he wear skirt. The moment I realized it was over

1086
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 5: was when he broke out the guilt.

1087
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 4: Like the dinim kilts.

1088
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's getting Canadian kilt.

1089
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 2: I don't want to give him anything, but Opie, I will.

1090
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: I gotta give him one thing. It's probably just playing

1091
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 2: around with different style. Jen started coming around a lot

1092
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: more the more pregnant I got, and I noticed that

1093
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: whenever she was going to be around and they were

1094
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: going somewhere, he'd be in kilts.

1095
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'll never trust a man in a kilt again.

1096
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: They would claim to go to movies together or to

1097
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: hang out with mutual friends. I was very suspicious, but

1098
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: attributed it to hormones. After my daughter was born, Jen

1099
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: disappeared overnight. Though they would talk on the phone a lot.

1100
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: I tried to snoop once or twice on his phone,

1101
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: but there was nothing, and he was working hard and

1102
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: behaving like a good father, so all the weirdness just

1103
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 2: vanished over time. A few months later, Jen started coming

1104
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: around again. It got to be she was coming by

1105
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: almost every day asking him to help with something because

1106
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: John was at work. I remember once, while they were

1107
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: both present, I said, fine, go date your dang cousin again.

1108
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you called that you were right on the money.

1109
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: I would find out later that it was during this

1110
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: time that John had discovered that Max was sending Jen

1111
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: dirty texts, but she told them she'd deal with it. Then,

1112
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: at one afternoon, as I was getting lunch ready for

1113
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: my daughter, I got a knock at the door and

1114
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 2: it's John. He looks very composed, but he gets four

1115
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: or five words into explaining to me what he discovered

1116
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: before he gets choked up and teary. All of my

1117
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: suspicions were true. Max was cheating on me with his cousin.

1118
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 5: Uh.

1119
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: I went ballistic and exposed them on every social media

1120
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: platform I have. I saw Max three times after this

1121
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: moment because he ran away. The first was him pulling

1122
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 2: away from our house after he snuck in to collect

1123
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: his things. The second was meeting him in a parking

1124
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: lot because he wanted to talk in person, and the

1125
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: third was seeing him in the hospital after he was poisoned.

1126
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: This is already very long, and I planned to continue

1127
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: writing as a therapeutic release. But I'm glad I've got

1128
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 2: at least this off my chest. And folks, that finally

1129
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: is the end of the story.

1130
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: What a tale. I'm never going outside.

1131
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: You've got to stay inside forever.

1132
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 4: But it says we have a son now, But he

1133
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 4: was already doing so much for my daughter before that,

1134
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 4: so I really think we became parents together when I

1135
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 4: moved in with him. Life is happier now.

1136
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 3: Well, that's good, that's what the child is healthy.

1137
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: It was a comment she said about something.

1138
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 2: But folks, that's the end of that story. And we've

1139
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: got some comments from another video.

1140
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: Oh my god, dude, that was insane. What a fine Sophia. Guys,

1141
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 4: collapse in the chap for Sophia, she would, huh, that's

1142
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 4: not me. No, you read the whole thing. It was like,

1143
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: oh oh, claps in the chap for Sofia. She read

1144
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 4: for an hour and fifteen minutes straight, entertaining us through

1145
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 4: this whole episode. I need collapse. That was that was crazy. Yeah,

1146
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 4: you've been reading. It's good. Yeah, she's a pro.

1147
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: This is good. Last story before too, I.

1148
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 4: Know, Okay, she's been reading for two hours straight.

1149
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: Aver she was a pro.

1150
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: Thank you guys.

1151
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 4: Holy cow, oh, I need.

1152
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 2: Some cheez its for that story. These comments are from

1153
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: the video My Boyfriend Lied to See is X and

1154
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: this was posted September twenty third, twenty twenty five. TLDRP nineteen.

1155
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: Female brought her new atheist boyfriend, Kevin twenty one mail

1156
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: to meet her parents. During dinner, while her dad was

1157
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: saying grace, Kevin chugged his drink and let out a

1158
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: huge burp. He refused to apologize and said he didn't

1159
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: have to follow religious rules. OPI dumped him, only to

1160
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: later learn he pulled the same rude stunt at someone

1161
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: else's wedding. Turns out Kevin wasn't just an atheist, he

1162
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: was an arrogant jerk. And if you're curious to know

1163
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: the full story, you can go watch the full video.

1164
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: I remember that story.

1165
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 4: Too, me too. I read it.

1166
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: Dude, that's so funny that they got well, I'll have

1167
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 3: to follow your religious rules.

1168
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, you just be an etiquette. Etiquette.

1169
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 5: You are being an ass clown, and I'm gonna break

1170
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 5: up with you now.

1171
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 4: We gotta comment from one that's just a child being

1172
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 4: an atheist. A true atheist doesn't give a crap. They'll

1173
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: just sit there quietly and wait it out.

1174
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: Agreed, Yes.

1175
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 4: Trinity burn Hart ninety nine four says, as a Christian,

1176
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 4: I believe disrespecting any religion disrespects mine. I have traveled

1177
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 4: to other religion shrine on mission trips and we took

1178
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 4: it in respectful silence. Yeah, we didn't make a scene

1179
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: or disrespect the people just because we believe different. I

1180
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: have deconstructed a lot and even question a lot of

1181
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 4: the differences between the beliefs. It is a rose called

1182
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 4: by any other name. Situation reality. Yeah, even then, when

1183
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 4: I was extremely religious and believed I needed to save

1184
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 4: the world, I would never be that disrespectful.

1185
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1186
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just like when you go

1187
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: to someone else's house or just like another person's religious

1188
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 2: like temple or you know, place of worship, be respectful.

1189
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 2: You're not at your house. You're not you know, wherever

1190
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 2: your rules go. You're in someone else's place.

1191
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 3: Let's it's the Vatican.

1192
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 5: I think if we all get together and we storm

1193
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,479
Speaker 5: the Vatican at the same time, we can get into

1194
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 5: those vaults and find out what they've got down there.

1195
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: See. On the other hand, also, if you're at the Vatican,

1196
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 2: got to cover your shoulders. It's just a place of worship.

1197
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 2: If you want to go there, you gotta follow the rules.

1198
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, ink tops only. And we're all climbing the walls

1199
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,479
Speaker 5: at the same time. They can't stop.

1200
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 2: Is the Da Vinci code.

1201
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 5: We are getting into those vault and we are finding they've.

1202
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: Got stuff in there. But folks, they got artifacts.

1203
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: We've got nothing else for this episode, we don't. Yeah,

1204
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 2: so if you love us, what were you to say?

1205
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. It also said as a Christian myself, there

1206
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: is like things where you can't disrespect other people's religion.

1207
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 4: You have to to respect and if it bothers you

1208
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: that much, just leave. Just don't be there, like come on.

1209
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: Also just at dinner. It shouldn't be burping in front

1210
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: of your partner's parents.

1211
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just like weird.

1212
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 2: What But that's the end of that episode, folks. So

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00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 3: We love you and see you