WEBVTT - IT Meltdown Lessons, Best Streaming Services, and iOS 18 Public Beta

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<v Speaker 1>How a software update brought down thousands of computers, make

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<v Speaker 1>that millions of computers worldwide, The return of the iPod

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<v Speaker 1>kinda sorta A major retailer stops accepting checks? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>still writing them? Plus your tech questions answered? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>week John Hammond, principal security researcher at Huntress, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to join to talk about the major IT outage. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got Zach Hall, editor at large at nine to five MAC.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to join to talk about iOS eighteen public beta.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jared Newman of Advisorator friend of the show, will

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<v Speaker 1>join to talk about his latest cord Cutting Guide. What

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<v Speaker 1>a week it was with the global it meltdown all

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<v Speaker 1>because of a company named CrowdStrike. Their update caused a

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<v Speaker 1>wide spread outage heard across the world. Now, CrowdStrike is

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<v Speaker 1>a cyber security company. They released this flawed software update

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<v Speaker 1>on July nineteenth. The impact was pretty immediate. The update

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<v Speaker 1>affected and estimated eight point five million Windows devices. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that is less than one percent of all Windows machines.

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<v Speaker 1>But but the impact was so significant because CrowdStrike has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of heavy hitters as their customers, critical enterprises,

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<v Speaker 1>companies big and small.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was affected?

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<v Speaker 1>Major airlines, hospitals, banks, retailers, emergency services all impacted. Even

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<v Speaker 1>Starbucks people had trouble ordering their Ventae triple lattes from

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<v Speaker 1>their phones. It was pure chaos. When the caffeine stops flowing,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when America has a problem. So my takeaway from

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<v Speaker 1>this incident it really highlights the interconnected nature of our

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<v Speaker 1>global tech ecosystem, our global tech economy. It used to

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<v Speaker 1>be things were not as interconnected, Companies were not as

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<v Speaker 1>wide ranging, They didn't span the globe.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been a local impact.

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<v Speaker 1>Now everything it seems has these It just seems like

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<v Speaker 1>every incident we have continues to get bigger and more global.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft talked about the importance of safe deployment of resources

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<v Speaker 1>like this and of course disaster recovery for us the

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<v Speaker 1>average person. I think the big takeaway here is back

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<v Speaker 1>up your system, Back up your system, back up your system.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>CrowdStrike did issue a pretty quick fix, but the problem

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<v Speaker 1>is the fix wasn't as simple to deploy as the

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<v Speaker 1>original software updates. The original software update went out quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and was installed on a lot of these systems. The

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<v Speaker 1>fix in many cases required manual repairs by IT staff. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they are still dealing with this. In many cases, some

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<v Speaker 1>of them had to manually bring the computer back to

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<v Speaker 1>life from a backup. Otherwise you had to safe boot

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<v Speaker 1>the computer, which, if you're doing a lot of remote

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<v Speaker 1>access into your systems, a lot of times you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>able to rete access in to do the fix that

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<v Speaker 1>was necessary. And of course, the incident raises a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of questions about software testing processes, like how did this

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<v Speaker 1>software update go out that was flawed without someone figuring

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<v Speaker 1>that out? Don't they test this stuff before it goes out?

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<v Speaker 1>And also, who's liable is it? CrowdStrike are they are

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<v Speaker 1>they gonna have to pay up for all these issues.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all these airlines, just the airlines alone, so

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<v Speaker 1>many people had delayed flights or canceled flights. The airline's

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<v Speaker 1>got to pay out or get those people on a

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<v Speaker 1>new flight. Who's liable for all that? CrowdStrike stock fell

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<v Speaker 1>eleven percent following the incident. Now things are coming back

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<v Speaker 1>up online, but this was not an easy one to

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<v Speaker 1>recover from. I got lots of comments on my Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>on my Twitter, on my Instagram, and of course this

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<v Speaker 1>is just the high level stuff. We're gonna have our

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<v Speaker 1>guest later in this hour, who is an expert over

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<v Speaker 1>a million followers.

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<v Speaker 2>On social media on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>He is going to break it down and explain what

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<v Speaker 1>went wrong here, what we can learn from this, and

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<v Speaker 1>really just kind of break down how this even happened

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<v Speaker 1>and what his take is on it. So that will

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<v Speaker 1>be later this hour. I just wanted to give you

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<v Speaker 1>the high level stuff. But here's some of the responses

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<v Speaker 1>I got on my social media. Eric wrote, oh, he

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<v Speaker 1>posted a jiff. When you're an IT director and your

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<v Speaker 1>company doesn't use CrowdStrike, you're sitting easy because you're like, WHOA, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle says, it was a fun day today and the

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<v Speaker 1>day's not over. Only one co worker is able to

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<v Speaker 1>log on. Our IT department is working diligently to fix

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these computers. Crazy Bill says, this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to buy a product from my local farm

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<v Speaker 1>supply store. The clerk said their PC based register was

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<v Speaker 1>down and not usable at all. He said, without their

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<v Speaker 1>business system, he couldn't sell me anything, even with cash. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people were saying, oh, got to carry cash.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes these systems can't even accept cash because they're so

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<v Speaker 1>dependent on these point of sale systems that they may

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<v Speaker 1>not know how to accept cash. I know when I

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<v Speaker 1>worked at office depot back in the day, we had

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<v Speaker 1>those old school you know, those like bills, they those

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<v Speaker 1>like little check systems they have at the this you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you went to like a local diner, says

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<v Speaker 1>like check it's like printed with red ink at the

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<v Speaker 1>top and it has all the you know, you tear

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<v Speaker 1>it off the book like we had that and pens

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<v Speaker 1>underneath the registers. So in case the POS system ever

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<v Speaker 1>went down, that's point of sale, by the way, we

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<v Speaker 1>would we would go to pen and paper. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they still do that, but that's what we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa says, my daughter works at Starbucks. This morning, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>this morning has been chaos. David said, what a day.

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<v Speaker 1>More reason why I'm glad my work Mac is my

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<v Speaker 1>primary machine. Blue screen free. Yeah, the main thing that

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<v Speaker 1>people woke up to is this blue screen of death.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that that screen you see on Windows that

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, it was mostly it was all

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<v Speaker 1>Windows computers that were affected.

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<v Speaker 2>Max, no Linux. But it's a blue screen of.

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<v Speaker 1>Death that people saw, that screen that says there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with your computer. Let's try to recover from it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a screen nobody wants to see. Scott said, and that,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, is part of the reason one digital currency

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<v Speaker 1>is a very bad idea. And to that, I say, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>was bitcoin really affected? I don't think so. I think

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin it's like Titanic goes on. What's that song? My

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<v Speaker 1>heart will go on? It's like bitcoin. It just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think bitcoin. Bitcoin's like the Internet, right, It's.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a lot of redundancy there.

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie says, I got stuck in an airplane on the

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<v Speaker 1>last leg of a thirty hour trip and the final

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<v Speaker 1>flight ended up getting canceled six hundred miles away from home,

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<v Speaker 1>ended up renting a car and driving home the next morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a real life example of the impact of something

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<v Speaker 1>like this on actual people. Scott joked, just sky net's

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<v Speaker 1>first strike. Barbara said, we're feeling it in my law firm.

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<v Speaker 1>In the OC, John says Kaiser was hit for several hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug says, Now, just imagine a cash list society and

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<v Speaker 1>all it takes is a glitch and millions go without. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do understand that. And there are places

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<v Speaker 1>that don't accept cash, so I see how that could be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see how that could be concerning if we did

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<v Speaker 1>go completely cashless. But a lot of places do and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people do already. And you know, like yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I was at Target and I was coming back from

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<v Speaker 1>the gym and I need to stop at Target for something.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have my wallet with me and I only

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<v Speaker 1>had my phone with tap to pay, and so I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope this works, and it did, thankfully. Frank said,

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<v Speaker 1>so is CrowdStrike a national slash international security risk? Seems

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<v Speaker 1>so h that's an interesting take. Brian says, this is

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<v Speaker 1>why backups are important. Imagine if your drive daily image

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<v Speaker 1>or drive daily if not weekly. Yeah, that's how a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people did get through. This was an image

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<v Speaker 1>of their drives and they just kind of back to

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<v Speaker 1>or reloaded the computer from that. And then Kevin cautions,

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<v Speaker 1>please clarify why they might need physical access. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should tell people not to trust or allow people

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<v Speaker 1>to access your computer. I understand understand scammers already phishing

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<v Speaker 1>with this outage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>I did say in my posts that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times the IT folks might need physical access to the computers. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean they need to pop open the hood

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<v Speaker 1>and open it up like a car and replace the

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<v Speaker 1>spark plugs. But yes, they did need to get hands

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<v Speaker 1>on with a lot of these machines because if they're

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<v Speaker 1>in that boot loop, which they were, it might have

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<v Speaker 1>been tough to actually get access to them from a

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<v Speaker 1>remote standpoint and do something. But yeah, that don't That's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. Anytime something like this happens, the scammers are

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<v Speaker 1>immediately ready to make sure that they can capitalize on

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<v Speaker 1>this issue. And so what's the issue, Oh, did your

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<v Speaker 1>computer have the the great crowd strike outage of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. We can help. Let's protect your computer. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get your computer back up and running. So you do

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<v Speaker 1>need to be aware of the fact that these scam

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<v Speaker 1>artists do capitalize on anything. And yeah, I'm sure the

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<v Speaker 1>scams involving this are already out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely an interesting day, that's for sure. Yeah, let's hope

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen again. Coming up later in the hour,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have John Hammond, an actual security researcher, talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the IT outage in detail, explain what his takeaway

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<v Speaker 1>is and what we should all take away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight eight eight rich one oh one eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven four to two four one zero one. You are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to Rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology at

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<v Speaker 1>Triple eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 2>Four one zero one. Let's go to.

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron in Huntington Beach. Cameron, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi.

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<v Speaker 5>Rich, I hope you're having a great Saturday. So I

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<v Speaker 5>had a question about.

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<v Speaker 6>The YouTube app on both Android and iPhone, but particularly iPhone.

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<v Speaker 6>So I had an iPhone twelve since twenty twenty and

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<v Speaker 6>I had the app on there for many years in

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<v Speaker 6>paying premium and all of that, and then around twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty four because this was the year, I got recently

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<v Speaker 6>upgraded to an iPhone fifteen because I had credits and

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<v Speaker 6>all that.

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<v Speaker 5>But besides that, what I've recently.

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<v Speaker 6>Noticed is that after a couple of YouTube updates, I've

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<v Speaker 6>noticed that the app has started to really melt the

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<v Speaker 6>phone down. And what I mean by that is is

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<v Speaker 6>what happens is when I'm watching videos, maybe like for

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<v Speaker 6>two minutes, maybe maybe ten minutes, not even an hour,

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<v Speaker 6>the phone starts to really drain down the battery, even

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<v Speaker 6>when I'm on Wi Fi. I do have cellular, but

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<v Speaker 6>I mostly use it when I'm on Wi Fi sometimes,

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<v Speaker 6>and I just it's weird because it's never done that before.

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<v Speaker 6>Whenever it was on Wi Fi before, it would not

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<v Speaker 6>be at these high temperatures. I know it does this

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<v Speaker 6>when you're on sailor because it's using data, but I

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<v Speaker 6>was just wondering if it could be an Apple thing.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think so, because I took it to Apple

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<v Speaker 6>and they said, you know, they noticed that eighty eight

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<v Speaker 6>percent of the battery is taken by YouTube, and they

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<v Speaker 6>said that's a little abnormal. And so when I got

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<v Speaker 6>the iPhone fifteen, I was thinking maybe it was the

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<v Speaker 6>twelve because I've had it for so long. But from

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<v Speaker 6>what I read online, it says some people were having

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<v Speaker 6>problems with YouTube updates. So I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 6>an app issue or if that's a phone battery.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that okay, that's that was your first mistake, cameraon

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<v Speaker 1>looking at what people say online, because because I'm not kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>you can support whatever you want by looking at comments online.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, if you google YouTube app heating up on iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you're gonna see reports about people saying that

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<v Speaker 1>this thing is heating up on the iPhone because guess

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening. Everyone else is googling that, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>are adding to the conversation. Now, YouTube has millions upon

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<v Speaker 1>millions upon millions of people that are using this app

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<v Speaker 1>on iPhone. I have not heard of a widespread issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I pay for premium on YouTube as well. I watch

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<v Speaker 1>videos on YouTube on my phone. I've yet to see

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<v Speaker 1>any significant issue whatsoever with YouTube on my phone. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that you don't have a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>this or you're not noticing something now I think you

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<v Speaker 1>were right about something. The cellular streaming, of course, is

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<v Speaker 1>going to use more battery, it's going to heat up

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<v Speaker 1>your phone more. But in general, just the architecture of

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<v Speaker 1>apps on the iPhone and the fact that they're updated

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<v Speaker 1>so often, typically they do not have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>issues for very long. Now, yes, are there issues, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and they happen, and they come and they go. But

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<v Speaker 1>I find and this is my general advice to people,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're having an issue with an app, basically it's

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<v Speaker 1>because of an update. Something in that app is causing

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<v Speaker 1>an issue. Now with YouTube, I do not know of

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<v Speaker 1>a widespread issue with this app. So here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>would say to get what's happening fixed on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>So number one, I would delete the YouTube app, because

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<v Speaker 1>on iPhone, when you delete the app, that'll really clear

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<v Speaker 1>things out. That'll get it back to the start. Once

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<v Speaker 1>you clear out that app, I would make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>have all of your software updates completed on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>So do the main software updates, which is like the

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<v Speaker 1>iOS updates, and then of course do any of the

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<v Speaker 1>updates for the other apps. And then I would restart

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<v Speaker 1>your phone. So once you restart your phone, then I

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<v Speaker 1>would go in, I would reinstall YouTube, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>would see if it's still happening. The other thing I

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<v Speaker 1>can think of is that perhaps you have something like

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<v Speaker 1>smart downloads turned on on YouTube, or you're downloading stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in the background for offline. They've got a new feature

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<v Speaker 1>that downloads shorts automatically. That would use more battery, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would also be doing things in the background, which

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<v Speaker 1>could be kind of slowing things down and using up

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<v Speaker 1>more of the battery and causing the phone to heat up.

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<v Speaker 1>But once you reinstall everything and use it again, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's still happening, I don't really have a good solution.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, you know, just wait for an update

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<v Speaker 1>for the app, because you know, again there are many

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<v Speaker 1>people using YouTube. I've not heard of a widespread heat

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<v Speaker 1>issue with the YouTube app on the iPhone, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you are using it a lot, yes, especially in the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>it would cause your phone to heat up. The eighty

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<v Speaker 1>eight battery percentage is a little concerning. That is a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but it depends on what you're doing on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're using YouTube a lot of the time. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for the call, camera and appreciate it. Eighty to eight

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<v Speaker 1>Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. Uh Amazon Prime Day. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the hangover right Amazon Prime Day?

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<v Speaker 2>This week?

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon says record breaking sales. Yes, they say that every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just give you some of the numbers. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>more items sold than any previous Prime Day. Adobe Analytics

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<v Speaker 1>says fourteen point two billion dollars was spent across US

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<v Speaker 1>retailers during Prime Day. That includes other retailers as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's up eleven percent year over year. So yes, people

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<v Speaker 1>are shopping. Average order size according to Numerator fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>dollars ninety seven cents. Average households spent just about one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty dollars in place two orders. Top selling

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<v Speaker 1>items Amazon, fireTV sticks, Premiere Protein shakes, what Bobo?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you ordering stuff? Liquid IV?

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<v Speaker 1>People want to get fit, and they want to get hydrated,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to watch stuff on TV. Back to

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<v Speaker 1>school shopping obviously a big growth, a big driver for

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<v Speaker 1>all the sales. People shopped at Target, they shopped at

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<v Speaker 1>Walmart as well. Discounts were deeper this year. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about you, but I definitely thought Prime Day was

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<v Speaker 1>a success. I found a lot of stuff I needed

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<v Speaker 1>was on sale, and to me, that means it was

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<v Speaker 1>a success. Eighty to eight rich one O one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, we're going to talk to a security researcher

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<v Speaker 1>about this week's major IT meltdown. This is rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology at Triple eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>O one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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<v Speaker 1>one zero one. We'll get back to the phone lines

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<v Speaker 1>in just a moment. But joining me now is John Hammond,

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<v Speaker 1>principal security researcher at Huntress. He's going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this major IT outage we experienced this week.

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<v Speaker 2>John, thanks for joining me.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, they're rich Thanks so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So, uh, let's see, John, you've got one point seven

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<v Speaker 1>million subscribers on YouTube as a offering free cybersecurity education

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<v Speaker 1>and ethical hacking. So what do you talk about that's

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting that people want to follow you because that's

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible number.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, goodness, I'm flattered, Thank you so much. Well, it

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<v Speaker 7>really runs the gamut on hey, cybersecurity, whether it's looking

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<v Speaker 7>at nowwhere trying to see what hackers are up to

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<v Speaker 7>in their tradecraft or seeing all that shady stuff on

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<v Speaker 7>the dark web, but hey, trying to bring that education

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<v Speaker 7>and that awareness to the masses.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think the average person is up against

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<v Speaker 1>the most right now? When it comes to all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you talk about.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh goodness, well, you know you see all the news

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<v Speaker 7>and headlines about this thing ransomware, but often that's hey,

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<v Speaker 7>maybe targeting a business or a company organization, but for

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<v Speaker 7>the end user, the individual and the person, oftentimes you

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<v Speaker 7>see infost dealer malware. Hey, some things that will try to, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>grab your passwords, see what sensitive information you might have

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<v Speaker 7>saved or cash in your computer, like credit cards or addresses.

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<v Speaker 7>All those things certainly make for juicy details they could

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<v Speaker 7>then sell or turn into some more lets later on.

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<v Speaker 1>So a question I get, and we'll get to the

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<v Speaker 1>CrowdStrike stuff in a second, but the question I get

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<v Speaker 1>all the time is the Windows defender on your computer

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<v Speaker 1>good enough for it to protect you? Or do you

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<v Speaker 1>need something like additional I know it's.

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<v Speaker 7>A hot topic, but I will say I am a big,

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<v Speaker 7>big fan of a Windows defender. I know thinks say, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>you get what you pay for, it's free, it's everywhere,

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<v Speaker 7>But genuinely you know. That means it's got a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of telemetry, a lot of hey, insight into what the

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<v Speaker 7>average users might be up to, and a better way

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<v Speaker 7>to defence with that data pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, there you have it.

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<v Speaker 1>So initial thoughts on this crowd strike meltdown what happened here?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, well, I don't know if we need to dig

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<v Speaker 7>into a whole long story. I know folks are already

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<v Speaker 7>feeling the effects. But around I guess ten pm Pacific

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<v Speaker 7>what would have been Thursday nights, there was a post

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<v Speaker 7>online on reddits where folks are saying, hey, is anyone

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<v Speaker 7>else seeing this blue screen of death outage presumably from

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<v Speaker 7>the CrowdStrike agent their software, And then the floodgates kind

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<v Speaker 7>of open. See it spread like wow, to fire individuals

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<v Speaker 7>chiming in saying yeah, I've got an organization with However,

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<v Speaker 7>many thousands of computers, servers and workstations all down, stuck

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<v Speaker 7>in a boot loop, and that's gone on to effect

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<v Speaker 7>as you know, airlines, banks, schools, really I've seen hospitals

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<v Speaker 7>in the mix. It's been quite a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is CrowdStrike supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 1>They do what's called like endpoint security software, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you explain what that means?

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<v Speaker 4>Correct?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, so, CrowdStrike is a cybersecurity provider. There, a vendor

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<v Speaker 7>that's really trying to work hard to protect you from

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<v Speaker 7>malware and hackers.

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<v Speaker 4>And all those threats on the landscape.

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<v Speaker 7>What that means is they have a certain amount of

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<v Speaker 7>sensitive access because you want to be able to protect

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<v Speaker 7>your computer at all the different levels and layers there.

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<v Speaker 7>So they've got what a lot of nerds and geeks

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<v Speaker 7>call sort of root access. Working in the kernel is

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<v Speaker 7>kind of the topic and word there, but that is

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit sensitive, a little bit fragile. You want

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<v Speaker 7>to make sure that that's all correct and buttoned up

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<v Speaker 7>to the best that it can be. Is if there's

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<v Speaker 7>any of these mistakes, any unfortunate misconfigurations, well the machine

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<v Speaker 7>can very well crash. As we've seen widespread.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you make of this? Have we seen

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<v Speaker 1>something like this happen before on this scale with an

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<v Speaker 1>update like this?

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<v Speaker 7>Short answer is no, I don't think I'm going too

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<v Speaker 7>far out in a limb to say, yeah, this mass

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<v Speaker 7>outage and seeing this as widespread as it is, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't think we've ever seen anything of this scale and severity.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you've got your run of the mill Windows.

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<v Speaker 7>Updates and maybe patches that put it in maybe an

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<v Speaker 7>unstable state, and some computers have their own trouble in

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<v Speaker 7>some cases, but nothing quite like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, obviously the conspiracy theories have been flying around,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's you think about what this could

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<v Speaker 1>impact in the future, Like, this was pretty bad. So

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<v Speaker 1>what if a company like someone got in at a

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<v Speaker 1>company that has all this access to the kernel and

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<v Speaker 1>did something maliciously Like this was a mistake. Clearly I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it was, But what if there was malicious intent?

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<v Speaker 1>Could that potentially happen?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, if I may say, to dispel the myst by

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<v Speaker 7>no means this is not a vulnerability, This is not

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<v Speaker 7>an exploit, this was not a hack. It is really

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<v Speaker 7>just an unfortunate accident and a mistake, as you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 7>But I will say, yeah, when we've seen this effect,

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<v Speaker 7>it's not too far of a stretch to say, Wow,

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<v Speaker 7>is this what a digital war might.

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<v Speaker 4>Look like in the future. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I really can't say that with any certainty, but it

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<v Speaker 7>is that doomsday or nightmare scenario when yes, all the

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<v Speaker 7>technology that we lean on, we have such reliance on,

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<v Speaker 7>and we want to keep that secure.

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<v Speaker 4>We are trying to lock all the doors and windows here.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, when that's abused and taking advantage of it's quite

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<v Speaker 7>a scary situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So the interesting part to me is how this got out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I assume that they tested this on computers before

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<v Speaker 1>it went out, So what do you think went wrong

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<v Speaker 1>in that process? I know they're still in investigating with

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<v Speaker 1>their internals and all that stuff, and they may know

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<v Speaker 1>more than they've let on, but like, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>think this got out there when it was messing with computers?

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<v Speaker 7>This is, truthfully, I think the harshest critique, and rightfully

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<v Speaker 7>so is well, we have to wonder about that QA

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<v Speaker 7>process or the workflow of hey rolling things out?

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<v Speaker 4>Really did it start as a small sample pool? Hey?

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<v Speaker 7>Was it one hundred hosts that went to first and

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<v Speaker 7>then grew to a thousand and expanded and more of

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<v Speaker 7>that testing QA process? But unfortunately it sounded like everything

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<v Speaker 7>really just had this incident occur at the same time.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think there are some lessons learned, room for improvement,

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<v Speaker 7>and all of.

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<v Speaker 4>Us could take that lesson just as well.

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<v Speaker 7>But as to how it happened, unfortunately, again I mentioned

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<v Speaker 7>that sensitive kind of fragile portion layer of the computer. Well,

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<v Speaker 7>there might have just been a mistake and a flop

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<v Speaker 7>and some of those configuration files what they call channel files.

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<v Speaker 7>Not to get too far in the weeds, but it

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<v Speaker 7>has made quite a booboo.

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<v Speaker 2>So how are people recovering?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How are it? Folks?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Just I mean, I know that a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>computers have are back up and running, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's still a long process for some organizations. So

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<v Speaker 1>is the process to get to recover from this pretty rough?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, And this is the crux of the issue. On Friday,

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<v Speaker 7>you can imagine, Hey, a lot of technicians and engineers

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<v Speaker 7>running around to each computer individually and really having to

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<v Speaker 7>roll out a workaround or some mitigation manually because this

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<v Speaker 7>problem left all the computers in kind of an unstable state.

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<v Speaker 7>You've seen the blue screen of death, that blue picture

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<v Speaker 7>with the sad frownie face. Well, that means the computer

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<v Speaker 7>hasn't fully started up, and you won't be able to

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<v Speaker 7>roll out any automatic changes or a push a solution

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<v Speaker 7>at scale. So unfortunately, and I don't know how long

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<v Speaker 7>this might take. Whether it's the weekend, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 7>week time will tell but it's one by one manual

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<v Speaker 7>efforts and that's why, Hey, all the nerds and geeks

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<v Speaker 7>are having a rough week.

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<v Speaker 1>Something like this happened with our iPhones or androids or

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<v Speaker 1>Mac or Linux computers.

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<v Speaker 7>I I hm, yes, is again the short answer, but

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<v Speaker 7>let me add the little disclaimer and an asterisk because

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<v Speaker 7>it does depend. It varies us using the technology that's

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<v Speaker 7>provided by a vendor or company and the folks maybe

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<v Speaker 7>making that hardware and software. There is trust, there is

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<v Speaker 7>a certain layer of hey, understanding and hope that that

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<v Speaker 7>will be done the right way, but accidents like this

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<v Speaker 7>can happen, and it's funny. You normally have the conversations

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<v Speaker 7>of our the business owners or system administrators actually using

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<v Speaker 7>automatic updates and applying patches as they're released, and normally

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<v Speaker 7>you have the conversation is the onus of the responsibility

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<v Speaker 7>on them the end user, But in this case it

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<v Speaker 7>was truly the provider and that is what made this

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<v Speaker 7>quite a disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so for the average person, we've got to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>this up. I know, people get scared to do updates

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<v Speaker 1>in general because it changes the way their computer works

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<v Speaker 1>or it changes the way their phone works, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do contain software or security updates.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's your advice to people?

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<v Speaker 1>Should they be hesitant to do these updates like the

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<v Speaker 1>day they come out?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are we still okay? And this was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a fluke.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, let me be bold and confident here without a doubt,

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<v Speaker 7>you still absolutely should be applying those automatic updates and

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<v Speaker 7>getting the hey, new patches as they're released. I think

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<v Speaker 7>the best that we can because look, that is going

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<v Speaker 7>to improve your security posture and have a better defense.

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<v Speaker 7>But we CRIB should do some strategic planning, some thinking

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<v Speaker 7>and oh can we get ahead of this if we

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<v Speaker 7>were ever prepared for a situation like this, do we

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<v Speaker 7>know who to call? Do we have our checklists and

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<v Speaker 7>documentation outlined? What's a operating procedure that we can roll with.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the best we can do to try to prepare

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<v Speaker 7>for what we might not realize we have to prepare for, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, John, I see why you've got nearly two million

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>folks following you on YouTube. You explain stuff in a

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>very clear and easy to understand method. How can folks

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<v Speaker 1>follow you online?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much? Hey, you can track me down.

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<v Speaker 4>I am on YouTube?

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<v Speaker 7>Just my name John Hammond and you'll track me on

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<v Speaker 7>LinkedIn Twitter on Hey I'm out there, don't hesitate, Happy

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<v Speaker 7>to be a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, There you have it, Thanks for joining me.

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<v Speaker 1>John Hammond, h A M M O N D. Principal

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<v Speaker 1>Security researcher at Huntress. Coming up, more of your calls

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<v Speaker 1>Today's is all about the global software update or the

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on tech dot TV. Let's go to Dawn in Tucson, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>Down you're on with Rich oh Rich.

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<v Speaker 8>I have a conundrum. I have an older computer. It's

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<v Speaker 8>an Apple computer. It is a Nassbook Pro fifteen inch

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<v Speaker 8>of belief from twenty sixteen. I recently received a thumb

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<v Speaker 8>drive and there are some data on there that I'd

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 8>like to get onto my computer. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 8>I must need some sort of an adapter or dongle

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<v Speaker 8>or something because the ports on my computer are of

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<v Speaker 8>a mini type size. I don't know if they're USB

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<v Speaker 8>three or or what not all that familiar with the

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<v Speaker 8>USB stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have your your your flash drive is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing your flash drive has like the older style bigger

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>connector Yeah, okay, so that is that is likely USB A,

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and so A is like the big it's kind of

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>like the USB we all know. It's like that big

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<v Speaker 1>kind of USB connector. There's actually a whole bunch. There's

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<v Speaker 1>USB A, there's B there's three point zero, there's Mini,

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<v Speaker 1>there's micro, there's C, there's b U. Don there will

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<v Speaker 1>be a quiz when we're done. Okay, So what you

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>need is an adapter, and you need a USB. Let's see,

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you need a type C to type A adapter. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you go on Amazon and let me confirm. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've got a bunch of these at home, because

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<v Speaker 1>I am you know, I've got like a whole bunch

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>of these little phones that they send me to test,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them contain this little adapter.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me just make sure that's the right one.

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<v Speaker 8>Could I just send me one and I can be

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<v Speaker 8>done with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, But I think you'll get it faster on Amazon. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so easy. So what you want, yep, it's right here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Anchors got one. It is USB C high Speed Data,

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<v Speaker 1>USB C two USB three point zero female adapter for

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<v Speaker 1>MacBook Pro twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll work. That is ten bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>They also have other ones on there that are there's

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<v Speaker 1>one for five ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>But what you need?

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<v Speaker 8>What did you what did you put in the search bar?

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<v Speaker 8>Because that was a whole lot of numbers and letters.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't get very very easy USB C two

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<v Speaker 1>to the word to t o a adapter, and that

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<v Speaker 1>will bring it up, okay, and you'll see it's a

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>little tiny adapter. You should be able to identify the

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>fact that it looks like it would plug in the

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<v Speaker 1>flash drive on one side and USB C on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side. Anywhere from six to ten dollars solves all

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>of your problems. I think you said you had a conundrum.

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<v Speaker 1>Your conundrum is solved quite easily. Actually, so thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the call. There in Tucson, Arizona. I've never been, but

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<v Speaker 1>one of these days I will, hopefully. I love Soedona.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is road drip, Yeah, road drip, I yeah, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>saw my list. College town. I think TUCSONA is sor right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've got a college there. Let's see here.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have time for another call?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so? Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Let's go to Chris in Rancho, Cucamonga.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris dround with Rich.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Rich. I have a Galaxy S twenty one that

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<v Speaker 5>I use Wi Fi calling everywhere except at work. When

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<v Speaker 5>I get to work, it will not accept a call,

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<v Speaker 5>make a call, or accept a text, or make a text.

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<v Speaker 5>And everybody else seems to be okay. I asked our

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<v Speaker 5>IT department about it, and they said, we don't use

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<v Speaker 5>Wi Fi calling, so I don't know what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 5>and they use iPhones as well. I'm wondering, what do

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 5>you think I can do to make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't connect to the Wi Fi at my

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<v Speaker 1>work for this reason because A I don't like to

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>be tracked, and B I don't want to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny that they said we use iPhones. They just

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>shrugged their shoulders when it's an Android, because it's funny.

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>At my work, it's the same thing. The androids are

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>like impossible to connect to the corporate WiFi, and the

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>iPhones connect really easily. So the only thing I can

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>think of is they may have this type of communication

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>blocked at a network level and they may not know it,

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>like they're whoever their provider is may just block that

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of track thick because I don't know, maybe it's insecure,

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just not what they want on their traffic.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Why do you need the Wi Fi calling? Is your

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<v Speaker 1>Does your phone not work well in the in the area.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's a few dead spots in the building. You know,

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 5>we're in a four five story building. And then we're

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 5>on the fourth floor. A few dead spots, and uh,

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 5>I can use it. But the the thing is is

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<v Speaker 5>I have to remember every time we come to work

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<v Speaker 5>to you know, switch it off of Wi Fi and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because I use Wi Fi at home because

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 5>we have terrible sale service at home, you know, so

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 5>I use Wi Fi calling there, but occasionally it does

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 5>get spotty in.

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<v Speaker 2>The building with the cellular connection.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying, with the cellular connection, yeah, because I was

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, but on the Samsung there is a routine yeah. Sorry,

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>there is a routines functionality on the Samsung where you

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<v Speaker 1>can actually have your device disconnect from the Wi Fi

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>at work and you can manually connect and.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 2>You want it when you want to use that. So

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 2>that's one option.

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what your data plan is like, but

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the fact so the only thing I would do is

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe troubleshoot the connection. Can you make any voiceover IP calls?

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Like can you try like a like a Google Voice

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 1>call or something like that. You have Google Voice?

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't, but I don't have. Like I said, I

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 5>don't have a problem with Wi Fi anywhere else except

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 5>in the building. They had a problem with the Wi

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:30.320
<v Speaker 5>Fi they upgraded it and then this happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well that see. I think that gives me

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a little hint here. I think I think it's something

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that whoever their service provider is, it may be blocking

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>this sort of traffic. And that's that's my hunch. And

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>that's the only thing I could really think of. The

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Other thing I would do is maybe talk to some

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>of your colleagues if they have, you know, an iPhone,

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, do you use Wi Fi calling? As

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it turned on, a lot of people don't even know,

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, you ask them this stuff and they're like,

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's just however it's set up, but

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it sounds like it's something that's being blocked at

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 1>the network level, because there really shouldn't be a reason

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>why it wouldn't work on that Wi Fi network. The

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>other thing you can try is I'm trying to think

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.919
<v Speaker 1>if you can use like a hotspot or something. Yeah,

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it's that Wi Fi. The only other

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>thing I can think of is sometimes in the Wi

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Fi settings there are a couple of things where it

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>uses like a private IP address or something. You may

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>try to turn off some of that cloaking in the

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi settings and see if that helps.

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>But that's that's an interesting one.

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>But I know that these corporate networks, you know, they

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>block what they want, and it's it's sometimes a mystery

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>what you're allowed to do and what you're not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Eight eight eight rich one o one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 2>More rich on Tech coming up right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>out with you talking technology at triple A rich one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two

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<v Speaker 1>four one zero one. Well, it's the end of an

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<v Speaker 1>era for a couple of different technologies. First off, red box,

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:10.280
<v Speaker 1>red box is shutting down. You know what red boxes

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>DVD rentals, that little kiosk outside the grocery store or

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the Walgreens or the cvs.

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 2>You would rent a DVD.

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>And then later Blu Ray it started, I think it

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>was ninety nine cents and then it got to like

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a dollar fifty or something, and it was great because

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you could rent like a new movie for pretty cheap,

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>cheaper than like Blockbuster back in the day.

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Wait was Blockbuster around? Let me see these?

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess red Box was like no Blockbuster was gone.

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>So red Box has been around for twenty years. I

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>guess they were bought by Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment.

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>So those are those books. Remember everyone was reading them

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>back in the day. The Chicken Soup for the Soul.

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>They have one for like everything. It was like Chicken

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Soup for the Soul. For cats, You're like, what, I

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 1>don't even know cat's red, but I think kats would

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>probably enjoy Chicken soup. So that company, I guess bought it.

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>But then they went from chapter eleven to chapter seven bankruptcy,

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>which is bad. They had a thousand employees. Let's see

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 1>they Oh they operated twenty four thousand DVD KIOSK rentals.

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's wild. Twenty four thousand of those. What are

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 2>they going to do with them?

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 5>Now?

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>The business has been in decline since twenty twenty, and yeah,

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 1>this is just end of an era. So DVDs were

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>already kind of you know, nobody really used them anymore,

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.240
<v Speaker 1>but now that you can't rent them through red Box,

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it's even less now. The thing I liked about red

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Box is that I know we're all about streaming and

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, but you know, if you if you

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>rent a movie online like a you know, a new release,

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like at least six bucks, And theoretically the red

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>box would be like a dollar fifty if you could

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>return it like the next day, so it was still

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.720
<v Speaker 1>cheaper than like paying for a movie online. But now

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I again I've said this before on the show, I

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.399
<v Speaker 1>refuse to pay for a movie online, so I will

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>only watch what's on my streaming services. So last night

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>again took us like an hour to find something to watch.

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm not kidding Netflix, I love you, but like

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 1>where are the good movies? Where is the stuff you

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 1>actually want to watch? I don't know, maybe you know

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>where it is. I can't find it. And it's all

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the problem with Netflix is that everything is like it's

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>all like no name, Like okay, the actors might have

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:36.479
<v Speaker 1>a name, but they're just making money.

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:37.720
<v Speaker 2>That's why they're in these things.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 3>But like the.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Actual movies, you're just like, oh, I didn't know that

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>this person had a new movie because nobody did, because

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>it's terrible. They just did it for the paycheck. And

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>so next thing you know, you're watching this movie that

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you would never ever watch in your life unless it

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 1>was free because you're subscribed to the service and you

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>feel bad. No, I want to watch all Every single

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>movie I want to watch is one that you have

0:38:58.200 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to pay for. Like I'm like, Oh, I want to

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>watch Civil War, Nope, we got to pay five to

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine four. Oh I want to watch this, Nope,

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>we got to pay six bucks for that. So there's

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>a million movies I want to watch. They're just never

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:13.399
<v Speaker 1>on my streaming services. Anyway, I digress another another technology

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I guess was I guess technology is displacing this other thing.

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.439
<v Speaker 1>But this week Target said no more checks, no more

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:26.439
<v Speaker 1>payper checks. Target stopped accepting paper checks on July fifteenth. Oh,

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>come on, boom, what was the last time you wrote

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>a check? Citing extremely low volumes. Forty percent of Americans

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>have used to check in the past thirty days in

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. I think that's high, down from fifty

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>percent in twenty twenty. Checks are used mostly for specific

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>scenarios like rent payments, tax payments, and payments to contractors

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>or professional services. Older consumers sixty nine plus prefer checks

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 1>more than younger generations for bill payments. I get that

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>my parents still like to write checks. Bobo, you want to.

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Chime in January. The last time I wrote a check

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 2>was January, So there you go.

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>See it's been six months now that you mentioned it. Yeah,

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I actively try not to write a check. I will

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>literally go out of my way to not write a check.

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.800
<v Speaker 1>If I have to go to the ATM and grab money,

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I will do it to not write a check.

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm zelling more.

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.919
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Zelle is kind of like the new check. But see,

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Zell is like the most dangerous to me because the money,

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's gone and in their account instantly and

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>there's no getting it back.

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 9>But I like that at the same time because I

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 9>don't have to budget because the moment is gone.

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's already there. I agree with that. I

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 2>like that. I use Venmo a lot.

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I was actually against if I was doing this show

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>three years ago. If you would have heard me on

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.439
<v Speaker 1>my podcast before the show, I was a Venmo hater.

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I told people actively do not use Venmo because I'll

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>tell you what I think is shady about Venmo. Okay,

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>when you have a balance on Venmo, of like, let's

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 1>say you have a balance of eighty dollars and you

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>pay a bill for ninety.

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I know where you're going.

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Don't you think that the charge on your car would

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>be ten dollars because they're like, oh, well, let's use

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 1>the eighty dollars you have, plus we'll take the ten

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>dollars from your card. No, no, they take the full

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>ninety and leave that eighty in your account. Why do

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 1>they do that? Why do you think profit for them?

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>They're making interest on the money that's floating in these

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>accounts month after months. So yes, if you let's say

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you get a haircut and it's forty bucks and you

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>pay Venmo, they'll take it out of that eighty because

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the balance covers it. But my point is, I think

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>that's a it's kind of like a it's a decision

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that benefits them, not me.

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 2>For me Venmo. The issue was.

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 9>When you had the money in your account and you

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 9>wanted to take it to your main account, they charged

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 9>you for it, and if they if you didn't want

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 9>it to be charged, it took them longer, Yes, and

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 9>it was harder to do but to just transfer an

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 9>instantly as long as the card is on there, Oh,

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:49.760
<v Speaker 9>we do it right away.

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but if not, like, it's okay, we'll give

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 2>it to you.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 3>In my four or five days.

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we won't charge you, but you have.

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>To wait that time. And people, of course aren't you know,

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 1>we're in America. We're impatient, you know, drive through restaurant.

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, you get your food in like

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 1>ten seconds. So I understand. But they do have to

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 1>make money, so I understand that. But you know, and

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 1>also some people don't like cause if you like, I

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 1>know some people that just pay on their credit card

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>with Venmo, which they charge you like three percent.

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.320
<v Speaker 2>So don't do that. That's very expensive.

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Several major retailers, including Walmart, CVS, Cohle's Home Depot, and

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>TJ Max apparently still accept personal checks. I like, I said,

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I have one, like a couple of checks.

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 1>This this was a little got a lot of response

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 1>on my Facebook page, Facebook dot com slash rich on tech.

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I asked people, do you still write a check? And

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>of course I didn't know. You know, you know, you

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>post something on Facebook, you never know if people care.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Not this, oh, people cared hundreds of comments and like

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a second and so I'll read a couple. Carolyn says,

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that this electronic age has overlooked a huge population,

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>our seniors, they have troubles with site and memory issues,

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>slight or advanced.

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Leave them out.

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I think she's referring to the fact that we assume

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that everyone cannot write a check, but a lot of

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>people still do that. Dana asks, your young adult children

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:15.919
<v Speaker 1>have checks. My sons are twenty four and twenty five,

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 1>and I know neither has a checkbook, nor would they

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>know how to write one if required. Yeah, in fact,

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:24.879
<v Speaker 1>they actually came out with a card because the main

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 1>thing when I was, you know, a renter, is that

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you had to pay your rent by check. There was

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 1>no real way to pay rent any other way, and

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>so I think that's still a very popular way that

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 1>people use a check is to pay like rent. But

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty much everything else you can do now ach like

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.280
<v Speaker 1>through your bank account, which, by the way, be very

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>very selective on who you give access to your bank

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>account too.

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>With all these bills.

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, the reason why these companies want you to

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 1>switch to your bank account is because they get their

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>money very easily, right, there's no like buffer between you

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 1>and them. It's like they just say, oh, your bill

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 1>is eighty dollars and by the way, we just took

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:02.760
<v Speaker 1>it out of your checking account.

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for that.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I even do anything because I give you access

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to my account. Greg says, I still use them to

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>pay people who do work on the house. If you

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>use a card, they often add a percentage to the bill,

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>which you can get pricey on home improvements. Oh, Greg, okay,

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you set me off. This is my biggest pet peeve

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>in the world. When I say, oh, I'd like to

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>use my card and they say, oh, look's an extra

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>three percent or four percent or whatever. And this happened

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>to me the other day, and I said, why, why

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>are you charging me four percent? Three percent? Oh, that's

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>that's how much they charge us. We're only charging well,

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, you're running the business. That's part of your

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>costs of running a business. When I wrote my book

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.240
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and one hand Tech Tips for the iPhone,

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you know how much Amazon took from every single book

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I sold about forty percent.

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Books sold for every book from almost.

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Every well, I mean it was about when you add

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 1>everything up, it was the processing fees that all the

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 1>stuff you basically get about. You know, you basically just

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>write forty percent off of the price of that book.

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:09.919
<v Speaker 1>So you sell a book for ten bucks, you're only

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 1>making six dollars on it.

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at the most, I mean.

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, that's just like you know, so

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I also sold some of them, like like a signed

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>copy through like another service and like they would take

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>a percentage. But my point is to me, I was

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>happy because I was making money. And the same thing

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>with your business. If you're like, I'm sorry. If you

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>run a small business and you and you are accepting

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>credit cards, you got to pay those fees, Like that's

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>part of doing business.

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I get it.

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants to pay fees, but then don't accept credit cards.

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.439
<v Speaker 1>You go to these places and you're like, oh, here's

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>my card, and they look at you like you got

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>anything else. You're like, why do you accept it? Why

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>do you accept a card if you don't want to

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>accept the fees. That is my biggest pet peeve because

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I and I, you know, sometimes people want to pay

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:57.760
<v Speaker 1>with their credit card because it gives a little buffer

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>between you and them, right, you know, maybe they're doing

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>it for their budget reasons, maybe they're doing it for

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>they want you know, they don't trust you and they

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>just want to make sure if they want to return

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:07.720
<v Speaker 1>something or whatever.

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, they can do it easily.

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 1>But my my reality is, just please, if you're going

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to accept the form of payment, why are you actively

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to make people not use that form of payment

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and the Venmo stuff and all like.

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 2>So I went.

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Actually where I get my haircut, and I love them,

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>so no, no, you know, I'm not being mean to them.

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<v Speaker 1>But they switched from like used to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>pay them with ZEL to now they put an ATM

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<v Speaker 1>in there and they said, no more Zel, So you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to this ATM and it now costs

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you three point fifty to use the ATM if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have cash. And so my point is it's like

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<v Speaker 1>we're driving into the future in so many ways, but

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>yet so many small businesses are keeping themselves in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say, just I hate to say this, but

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<v Speaker 1>just raise your prices by a couple bucks if you

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<v Speaker 1>need to, if it's if that's what it costs. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know, okay, you know what, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>win in this argument no matter what. Anyway, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to chime in on the paper checks thing, Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, slash rich on tech, can we go to break?

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<v Speaker 2>I said enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot that sets me off, but when it does, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I go there. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>and a half of this by the way. Uh and

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<v Speaker 1>right to me. Let's go to Leslie in La Laguna Beach. Leslie,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on with Rich Hello, Leslie?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you there?

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<v Speaker 1>I tapped the right one? No, maybe I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I think I did, Leslie. Are you there? Nope? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>oh oh there you are.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi.

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<v Speaker 10>Hi, Hi, Rich Hello, Hi. I'm having t of logging

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<v Speaker 10>onto my banking Bank of America on my phone. I

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<v Speaker 10>can do it on my iPad, I can do it

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<v Speaker 10>on my computer. I can. I have installed an uninstalled

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<v Speaker 10>the app on my phone. I've gone into the website.

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<v Speaker 10>I checked my password managers to see if I have

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<v Speaker 10>anything old in there. But and I know for sure

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<v Speaker 10>what my you know, use their name, the password is.

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<v Speaker 10>But it's just not working. It's showing they can't find

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<v Speaker 10>my account.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so every time, okay, that's interesting. So you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>on an iPhone or Android.

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<v Speaker 4>iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so iPhone you've got you've got your user name,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your password, and every time you try to

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<v Speaker 1>log in, Now, is it auto filling from the password

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<v Speaker 1>manager when this happens.

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<v Speaker 10>No, I don't save my banking passwords on even a

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<v Speaker 10>password manager. So I'm very careful that I know exactly

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<v Speaker 10>what it is. I get this. The information you entered

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<v Speaker 10>doesn't match our records. You have a few more times

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<v Speaker 10>charge remaining.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is just a Bank of America app.

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<v Speaker 10>Just the Bank America app. And in the past I

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<v Speaker 10>had no problem with it. In fact, I would use

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<v Speaker 10>the phone most of the time, you know, gone, just fine.

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<v Speaker 10>I would use the face thing too. That would look

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<v Speaker 10>and then one day I decided to use my computer

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<v Speaker 10>because I was going to do more stuff and I

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<v Speaker 10>couldn't log on there. So I went ahead and changed

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<v Speaker 10>my password, thinking, okay, I'll just go along with the thing.

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<v Speaker 10>Dre's the password. And now I've been on my computer,

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<v Speaker 10>but I can't get it on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what I think, okay, what I think is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is like an extra character something that

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<v Speaker 1>that's somehow being entered on the phone that's not being

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<v Speaker 1>entered on the desktops. You're able to log into your account,

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<v Speaker 1>just not on your phone, just.

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<v Speaker 10>Not on my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So if you go to Bankfoamerica dot com, you

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<v Speaker 1>type in your user name and password, you get in

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<v Speaker 1>no problem.

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<v Speaker 10>If I do that on my computer I do put

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<v Speaker 10>on my phone, I can't get in through my app

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<v Speaker 10>or my or the website.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you running any sort of AD blocker on your

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<v Speaker 1>phone or a VPN?

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<v Speaker 10>Only thing I can think of? I mean, I I'm

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<v Speaker 10>not playing no of I mean, what can how can

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<v Speaker 10>I check that?

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<v Speaker 11>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, so what type of network do you

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<v Speaker 1>have at home? Like for your WiFi, but your computer's

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<v Speaker 1>on the same network at home? Yeah, okay, have you tried, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I would also try maybe toggling your Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 1>off and then logging in on cellular and seeing if

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<v Speaker 1>that if it gets the same error. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>would do is, you know, it sounds like there's like

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, if you're copying and pasting this password.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you're doing? I know you're typing it? Okay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's interesting because these kind of these kind of

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<v Speaker 1>things happen, and I've seen them happen even with myself

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone. But typically there's something running on my

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<v Speaker 1>phone that is interfering.

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<v Speaker 10>But I'm thinking and I can't figure out what it

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<v Speaker 10>is that's reading. It's got to be some blocker.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying are you okay? So can you go into on

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<v Speaker 1>Safari on your phone? Can you log into Bank of

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<v Speaker 1>America through there? Like if you just go to the website.

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<v Speaker 10>I've tried that.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried it, okay, and it won't let you do

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<v Speaker 2>it anywhere on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>No, okay, sounds like you've got some sort of ad

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<v Speaker 1>blocker or VPN running on your phone. So v wise,

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<v Speaker 1>have you installed a VPN there?

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<v Speaker 10>No, I'm I'm not that savvy okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And no ad blocker either, not that.

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<v Speaker 10>I know of, no, but you know, strangers interesting, I

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<v Speaker 10>don't know what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other question is this just does this

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<v Speaker 1>happen everywhere or just on Wi Fi or just on cellular,

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<v Speaker 1>because that could be it is.

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<v Speaker 10>Everywhere, because when you said that, that's kind of interesting

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<v Speaker 10>because I do use Wi Fi calling it home just

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<v Speaker 10>because of where we are, but everywhere it's the same.

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<v Speaker 10>So even when I'm just on cellular too.

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<v Speaker 1>And have you asked Bank of America? Have you asked

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<v Speaker 1>like their tech support department and what have they said?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And what do they say?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I've asked them and they don't know. I've even

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<v Speaker 10>gone to the right store to see if they can

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<v Speaker 10>troubleshoot something they can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you stumped me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna we're gonna leave this one to

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<v Speaker 1>the wisdom of the crowds and maybe I'll get some

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<v Speaker 1>info on this from an email or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. Coming up, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk iOS eighteen public Beta. Welcome back to rich

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<v Speaker 1>On Tech. Rich Demiro here, hanging out talking technology. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get back to those phone lines in just a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. Still got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of news to get through as well. Want to

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show. Zach Hall, editor at large at

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<v Speaker 1>nine to five MAC. He is here to join us

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about iOS eighteen Public Beta. This was released

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<v Speaker 1>this week by Apple. You can install it on your iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>but before you do, we should talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Zach. Welcome to the show. Hey Rich, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So iOS eighteen public Beta, what does that mean exactly?

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<v Speaker 5>So?

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<v Speaker 12>iOS eighteen is the next big software update for the

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<v Speaker 12>iPhone without buying a new iPhone. It's it's when you know,

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<v Speaker 12>usually it comes up in the fall, in September, and

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<v Speaker 12>you download the new update and maybe things look a

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<v Speaker 12>little bit different, but your phone can do some new things.

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<v Speaker 12>And this is iOS eighteen public Beta. So the beta

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<v Speaker 12>version was announced a few weeks ago, back in the

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<v Speaker 12>beginning of June for developers only, and as of the

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<v Speaker 12>beginning of this past week, you can download the public

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<v Speaker 12>beta without being a developer. And this is more for

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<v Speaker 12>early adopters, people who want to test out some of

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<v Speaker 12>the new features before they get pushed to out all

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<v Speaker 12>the new phones in September. So this is really just

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<v Speaker 12>a preview of some of the new things coming to

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<v Speaker 12>the iPhone later this fall.

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<v Speaker 4>But for free.

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<v Speaker 12>You can install on your iPhone now if you're willing

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<v Speaker 12>to maybe deal with some bugs and try things out

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<v Speaker 12>early before they're really polished and ready for everybody to use.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Apple has made it much easier in recent years

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<v Speaker 1>for the average person to install this the beta. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very very simple. So what is the caution here? Like

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't just go back if there's a problem, right.

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<v Speaker 12>Right, there's ways like you can back up your old

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 12>data and you can kind of you know, use a

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:08.239
<v Speaker 12>computer and do a bunch of heavy lifting. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 12>maybe you support to get back to the old version

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<v Speaker 12>of things go pretty bad for you, But there is

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<v Speaker 12>a risk of data loss. The big thing is is,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, you don't want to put this on your

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<v Speaker 12>main device if you're worried about losing information or you're

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<v Speaker 12>worried about maybe some of your app's not working.

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<v Speaker 4>The right way.

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<v Speaker 12>Because it is a beta, you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 12>able to say, you know, to your favorite app that

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:28.960
<v Speaker 12>you rely on to the developer, Hey, this isn't working.

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<v Speaker 4>What's wrong.

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<v Speaker 12>They're going to say, it's a beta version of the

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<v Speaker 12>software of the of the iPhone software, so we can't

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.319
<v Speaker 12>do anything about it yet. So it really is just

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<v Speaker 12>to try out some new features on the phone from Apple,

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<v Speaker 12>and you know, at the risk of maybe not getting

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<v Speaker 12>to have the same level of stability and everything that.

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<v Speaker 3>You get from just using your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Order narrowly, right, like, basically, if you put this on

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:52.120
<v Speaker 1>your device and you have a problem with your work email,

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<v Speaker 1>your IT departments can be like, ah, you're running a beta.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't help with that, or pretty much anything that

0:55:57.760 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 1>goes wrong, it's like, well, you're running a beta. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the part that's part of it is

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<v Speaker 1>that there's no guarantees with this software because Apple's still

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<v Speaker 1>working on it to finalize it.

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<v Speaker 12>That's the big disclaimer, right, even if it you know

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:12.200
<v Speaker 12>it is an issue with your IT work email, the

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<v Speaker 12>you know, the disclaimer there is it is a beta,

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<v Speaker 12>so they're not even gonna try to resolve it. And

0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 12>part of that is because it's a beta, it's it's

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 12>not finished yet, and Apple pushes out new versions about

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 12>every other week. The developer version of IOSA Team Beta

0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:30.960
<v Speaker 12>usually has been out for they pushed it out to

0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:34.399
<v Speaker 12>developers first developers to try it out, and then the

0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 12>public beta tends to be what's been out in the

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<v Speaker 12>wild for developers for about a week, and then the

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<v Speaker 12>public beta that's kind of a less risky version of

0:56:43.600 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 12>you know, the previous software, but it's still unfinished and

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<v Speaker 12>you're going to see updates to it every other week

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<v Speaker 12>or so when you get closer to September, maybe every

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.280
<v Speaker 12>week we'll see a new update to it. So things change,

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<v Speaker 12>and even if you have a good version this week

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<v Speaker 12>where you're running IOSA Team Beata and you say everything's fine,

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 12>things could break in the next couple of weeks. You know,

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:04.759
<v Speaker 12>if they've changed something they try to, you know, optimize

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<v Speaker 12>one feature here or there.

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<v Speaker 4>It can affect how your apps work.

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:09.400
<v Speaker 12>So it really is sort of you know, if you're

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:12.359
<v Speaker 12>an early adopter and you're trying to just you want

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:14.360
<v Speaker 12>to test this stuff out before it's available.

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<v Speaker 4>The developer beta.

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<v Speaker 12>Is for app makers to make sure that their apps

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<v Speaker 12>are compatible. But what's happened over the past several years

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<v Speaker 12>is because Apple is starting off new features, people want

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<v Speaker 12>to people like me, you know, people like you. I'm

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<v Speaker 12>sure I want to try these out early and get

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<v Speaker 12>their hands on them. So it's also a way for

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<v Speaker 12>the public, you know, without being an app maker, to

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<v Speaker 12>try it out early at the risk of you're not

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<v Speaker 12>going to have the same level of support you know,

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<v Speaker 12>from your IT or even from.

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<v Speaker 4>Apple for that matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we get into some of these features, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been playing with this this this week, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you've been probably since the developer beta, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just to be clear, let's say you install this on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone, you need a backup of your iPhone and

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to go back, like let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>try this out for a day or two and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, my battery is bad, my apps don't work,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't log in on my banking app. The only

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<v Speaker 1>way to go back is to erase your phone as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I know, and then reinstall the backup from

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<v Speaker 1>that erase on that erase iPhone.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that sound about right?

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<v Speaker 12>That's that's about right, and a lot of I'd say

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<v Speaker 12>that the biggest risk there is that if you do

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<v Speaker 12>a backup on a Monday and you decide on Friday,

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<v Speaker 12>that the battery life is too big of a hit

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<v Speaker 12>for you, or some apps aren't working the way that

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<v Speaker 12>you want them to. Information from Monday to Friday. You know,

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<v Speaker 12>between you doing that backup and you decide you want

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<v Speaker 12>to go back, you might not have that last week

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<v Speaker 12>of information. So it just depends on you know, what

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<v Speaker 12>information is and how it's stored and everything. But that's

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<v Speaker 12>the big thing though. You know, you can do it backup.

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<v Speaker 12>You can, there's ways to get back to it. But

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<v Speaker 12>it really is just say, I want to try this out,

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<v Speaker 12>and I'm willing to have you know, worse battery life

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.280
<v Speaker 12>and slower performance at the cost of maybe trying out

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<v Speaker 12>some cool new features you know, you know, a month earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>So and with that said, the features are great, they

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<v Speaker 1>are cool, they're a lot of fun. I put this

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<v Speaker 1>on a secondary device that did not put it on

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<v Speaker 1>my primary. But the number one thing is really customization.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot more options for customization both on the

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<v Speaker 1>home screen. You can place your icons anywhere you want.

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<v Speaker 1>The control center is totally revamped, which I love because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot more useful, so you can, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put a lot of different control center I guess shortcuts

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<v Speaker 1>there more so than before because you can use third

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<v Speaker 1>parties apps as well, and the lock screen you can

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<v Speaker 1>customize those two little shortcuts as well. So what has

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<v Speaker 1>been kind of like the notable features to U Zach.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, the home screens something you see every day,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, you unlock your iPhone and you go to

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<v Speaker 12>your apps. And a few years ago there was this

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<v Speaker 12>big trend of kind of like insecure but really hard

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<v Speaker 12>to do workarounds of making your home screen look the

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<v Speaker 12>way you want it, to change all of your app

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<v Speaker 12>icons to be one color, and that's baked into the

0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 12>phone now that I was eighteen in beta now and

0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 12>you know about this fall where you can just you know,

0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:58.480
<v Speaker 12>long person your home screen, tap and edit and customize

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<v Speaker 12>button and then take what color you want your icons

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<v Speaker 12>to be and like what shade and you can change

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<v Speaker 12>it on the fly. So Apple's taking a lot of

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<v Speaker 12>what people have been doing with their devices anyway, and

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<v Speaker 12>like finding really incredible workarounds that they've been doing and

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<v Speaker 12>just making it part of the system itself, which is wonderful.

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<v Speaker 12>And even things like if you're used to running your

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<v Speaker 12>phone in dark mode or you like to go between

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<v Speaker 12>light and dark mode, Apple's doing official icons for their

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<v Speaker 12>apps for dark mode for the first time, and you

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<v Speaker 12>can make those switch from light to dark like you

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<v Speaker 12>do with the rest of the phone. Some really great

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<v Speaker 12>stuff there. And you mentioned those lockscreen shortcuts. So from

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<v Speaker 12>the iPhone ten and twenty seventeen, apples put the flashlight

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<v Speaker 12>and the camera on the lock screen on the bottom

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<v Speaker 12>right and left corners, and that's been what it is,

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<v Speaker 12>those buttons for those two functions. And this past year

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<v Speaker 12>with the iPhone fifteen Pro, they added a button, the

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<v Speaker 12>Action button, that can be a launcher for the camera

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<v Speaker 12>and you could even swipe in from the right side

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<v Speaker 12>of the lock screen open the camera. So there's lots

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<v Speaker 12>of ways to open your camera. Finally said, hey, if

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<v Speaker 12>you want to make that button open your favorite app,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, whatever you want it to be, you can

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<v Speaker 12>do that instead or a third party camera app. So

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<v Speaker 12>lots of ways to customize kind of what's already there.

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<v Speaker 12>Just make it work the way you wanted to make

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<v Speaker 12>it look the way you wanted to and just in

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<v Speaker 12>using it from the beginning of June, like you kind

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<v Speaker 12>of mentioned, I'm finding that I'm changing it, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>every couple of weeks, learning especially with Control Center, which

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<v Speaker 12>is super customizable. Now, like, what are the ways it's

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<v Speaker 12>going to be different? How how does this work now

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<v Speaker 12>that I've got control over it? You know, what are

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<v Speaker 12>some ways that work better for my use cases? And

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<v Speaker 12>that's kind of what I've been finding.

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<v Speaker 1>The interesting note to me is that you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the people that like Android, they like it

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<v Speaker 1>because it's customizable. But Apple is slowly but surely made

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<v Speaker 1>their system very customizable as well. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big side of this is that, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>people had a problem with like, oh, I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>customize this, it's like, no, it's actually pretty good at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. One of the things I noticed too is

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<v Speaker 1>the the locked full You can lock apps down.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also put them in a hidden folder.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a new passwords app, which I think is probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the most popular passwords app in the

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<v Speaker 1>world after like the day one launch.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The messaging between iPhone and Android, that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big one. Can you talk about that for a moment?

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<v Speaker 1>We only have like a less than a minute here,

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<v Speaker 1>sure so quickly.

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<v Speaker 12>Our CS is this way to communicate between Android phones

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<v Speaker 12>that iPhone hasn't supported and on the iPhone, you've got

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<v Speaker 12>your blue messages I message where you've got like typing

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<v Speaker 12>indicators and read receipts for whenever you send something and

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<v Speaker 12>somebody reads it. You's a popular on all chat platforms now.

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<v Speaker 12>RCS is kind of an upgrade to the old text

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<v Speaker 12>message system where now you get typing indicators and read

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<v Speaker 12>RECEI things like that just between green messages would agree

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<v Speaker 12>on your iPhone and so now for the first time,

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<v Speaker 12>you'll be able to text people on Android and they'll

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<v Speaker 12>see when you're typing or when you've read it if

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<v Speaker 12>their phone and their carrier supports RCS. So that's something

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<v Speaker 12>that people are already seeing in the wild, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 12>you switched to Android. No not, my iPhone has rcs NOW,

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<v Speaker 12>So that's kind of a insider you know, uh set

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<v Speaker 12>of letters.

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<v Speaker 2>But once you see it in the wild, you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get used to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And importantly you'll be able to send videos and photos

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<v Speaker 1>full or maybe not full. They haven't said full, but

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<v Speaker 1>like high resolution, let's put it that way, so it

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<v Speaker 1>won't look like a postage stamp, you know, on either side.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, which has gone from like two thousand and five

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<v Speaker 12>technology to twenty twenty and beyond technology.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, it's good, way better, way better. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot more in iOS eighteen the public beta.

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<v Speaker 1>You can check out nine to five Mac to learn

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<v Speaker 1>about it all. Zach Call, thanks so much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks having rich all right, eighty eight rich one O

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<v Speaker 1>one eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. Coming up, I'll tell you why Samsung is

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<v Speaker 1>suspending shipments of their new Galaxy Buds Pro. And Apple

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<v Speaker 1>has a new home pod. I'll tell you what that's

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<v Speaker 1>all about. Coming up right here. Welcome back to rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech. Rich DeMuro here chatting about technology at eighty

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech. Apple has introduced a new HomePod Mini.

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<v Speaker 1>How exciting. Oh, it's just in a new color Midnight.

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<v Speaker 1>The last one I think was I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>what was the last color. I think they was like

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<v Speaker 1>going around online like I think it was just black.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's called Midnight, but anyway, HomePod Mini and

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<v Speaker 1>a new color. HomePod Mini, if you're not familiar, is

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<v Speaker 1>a small speaker. This thing is great. It's a powerhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only a couple inches tall, but sounds great. Comes

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<v Speaker 1>in a bunch of different colors yellow, orange, blue, and white.

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<v Speaker 1>It's available now. It's ninety nine bucks. I was giving

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<v Speaker 1>these out like candy for holidays a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>ago when they came out, because they're just such an

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<v Speaker 1>easy gift. If someone has an iPhone, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>a no brainer. HomePod Mini now in Midnight. Meanwhile, Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>is suspending shipments of its Galaxy Buds three Pro. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been using these, got a pair in Paris and they

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<v Speaker 1>sound great. They're amazing. I have had zero issues with them.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even launch. They don't even launch until July

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth, but now that's being pushed until August twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Early users reported quality issues, including easily torn eartips.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had no problems with that. I wore them for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, like a week, no problems whatsoever. Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>removed the listing from its site. Samsung's conducting an evaluation

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<v Speaker 1>to see what's happening here. They apologize to customers. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who would have these yet because obviously most

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't get them yet. But yeah, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to get your Galaxy Buds three pro, can't get

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<v Speaker 1>them just yet. And my favorite AI assistant is now

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<v Speaker 1>available for Android. Yes, Claude. Claude is my preferred AI assistant.

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<v Speaker 1>It is now available as an Android app. It was

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<v Speaker 1>available as an iOS app a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they've caught up and Claude is just fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>if you're working with anything text based documents, summarizing notes,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It is really good at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Chat GBT is sort of a jack of all trades,

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<v Speaker 1>like a Swiss army knife. Claude is much more focused,

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<v Speaker 1>i would say, on language, and it's really good at

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<v Speaker 1>thinking and processing and all that stuff. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>have an Android, definitely download the Claude Android app. You

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<v Speaker 1>can use it for free. Obviously there's paid plans as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but bulk of it's free. You can also get it

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<v Speaker 1>for iOS.

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<v Speaker 5>Two.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Tim and Moore Park. Tim, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>with Rich, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm Tim Callum Carrion, how do I for free print

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<v Speaker 14>labels for honey for different ounced jars? And what name

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<v Speaker 14>was the program that you use on an old Windows

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<v Speaker 14>computer to replace the Windows? And number three? The reason

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<v Speaker 14>why I can only call you on a station, the

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<v Speaker 14>radio station on a corded phone is because somebody is

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<v Speaker 14>black my portable house phone because they don't want me

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<v Speaker 14>to talk on the radio, probably because I'm running for president.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Well that's interesting. Well, good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've got two pretty good candidates.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, I take that back.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not endorsing any candidate here. I'm saying we

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<v Speaker 1>have two We we have two candidates for president. That's

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<v Speaker 1>I'll leave it at that. Wow, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to break down your questions. Yes, something about different sized

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<v Speaker 1>jars of honey, And you need labels. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you're gonna use something like Canva for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you printing like nutrition facts labels? I'm guessing Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see there is a website. Let's see if they can

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<v Speaker 1>do custom labels. Hmm, you might be able to do

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<v Speaker 1>something like I mean, look, there's so many websites available nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>To print things like a Vista print. There's a website

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<v Speaker 1>called online Labels dot com. If you're just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>print labels for stuff, you can do that now. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to convert, I'm reading the notes here from Kim.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're trying to convert stuff, I would say AI

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<v Speaker 1>might be your best bet. So if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>convert things, you know, just like different sized jars, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to say. Oh, what is happening here?

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<v Speaker 11>Bobo?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that is the moon? What is the phase

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<v Speaker 2>of the moon today? This is the most fun I've

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<v Speaker 2>had in a long time. I just want to say

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. Yeah, me too? What is the moon phase?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's got okay? See I knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew the moon was weird today because and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one of these like astrology guys.

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<v Speaker 9>You just looked it up, so that makes you an

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<v Speaker 9>astrology guy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the moon can be separated from astrology. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying people get weird when the moon is doing

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<v Speaker 1>weird things. And right now it's a ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>waxing gibbus illumination ninety nine percent. That means it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost a full moon. Tomorrow's a full moon. See where's

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<v Speaker 1>my bell?

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<v Speaker 4>I knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew there was a weird moon because we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>some weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not I.

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<v Speaker 1>When my mom starts talking astrology, you could see the

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<v Speaker 1>eyes rolling into the back of my head.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>People are describing me.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, you're this, You're you're the strong, sensitive type.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what what you're talking about? Here?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to James and Los Angeles. James, can you

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<v Speaker 1>bring some sanity to the show today? James?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you there?

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<v Speaker 1>See?

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>What? Okay, that's it. We're done. I just turned off

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<v Speaker 1>the phone lines.

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<v Speaker 2>We're done. Clear off the lines.

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<v Speaker 4>No more.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't even call eighty eight rich one on one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four.

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<v Speaker 2>One zero one. But he's running for president, funny. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't heard uh, I haven't heard that candidate. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I don't know. I just so, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the problem with the airport? I'm sorry at the Samsung.

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<v Speaker 1>Ear Apparently the tips the tips had a problem, the

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<v Speaker 1>torn ear tips.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're not There's.

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<v Speaker 9>Nothing I'm excited for them, like when you showed me

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<v Speaker 9>the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get a pair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean obviously now you can't until you until

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<v Speaker 1>they ship them again. But no problems, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is what Samsung is. What I like about

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung is that they try a lot of stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they have you know, there's an issue, and

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<v Speaker 1>they and they admit when there's a problem. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know that was a problem. All right, let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about something real quick before we go to break here.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiny pod. This is a device that got some buzz

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<v Speaker 1>this week. This is a case that you put your

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Watch into and it turns your Apple Watch into

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a tiny iPod. So it's it makes

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<v Speaker 1>your Apple Watch kind of a companion for your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>but that you can hold in your hand. And the

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<v Speaker 1>idea is, you know this whole We've talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 1>this minimalist movement. People want less distractions. So the idea

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<v Speaker 1>is that you can leave your phone at home, but

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your Apple Watch inside this little tiny iPod

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<v Speaker 1>like device. Remember, you'll need you know, cellular if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get your calls and messaging. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, the apple Watch has pretty much everything

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<v Speaker 1>you need.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty bucks shipping this summer. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Watch has an iPod. Everything old is new again.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,

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<v Speaker 1>talking technology at Triple A Rich one oh one. That's

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim has cleared the phone lines. We have what's that

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<v Speaker 1>that incense that you you spray around the place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we saved the whole studio. So we are ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a fresh hour here where we're gonna get real and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna actually have some Oh man, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have some fun. Eighty eight rich one O one

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Website for the show rich on Tech dot TV. You

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<v Speaker 1>can find me on social media at rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about the new app from Microsoft that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like their answer to Canva. Google is already

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<v Speaker 1>putting details out about the Pixel nine and we've got calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to uh, let's go to where is James

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles?

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<v Speaker 2>James? You're on with Rich. Oh I'm doing great? How

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<v Speaker 2>are you for.

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<v Speaker 11>Your information regarding the moon. It's not a full moon.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm a nostrophysicist. There's an alignment between Jupiter and seven.

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<v Speaker 11>You'll be going on for maybe three days, and it's

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<v Speaker 11>very unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, see there you go. I knew, I knew there

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<v Speaker 1>was something unusual though. That's okay, so you can confirm that.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you say? You are an electra?

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<v Speaker 11>What physis public?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Very cool sound.

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<v Speaker 11>That you can look. You can look at it to

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<v Speaker 11>night in the sky right a man, about nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 11>you can see the moon lining up with two pilots.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I love when that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually saw there was one a couple of I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, months ago where it was like I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was like three or four planets in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, anyway, anyway, how can I help?

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<v Speaker 11>I'm doing your website with my photography. I've been doing

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<v Speaker 11>photography for twelve years. I have slide shows and I

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<v Speaker 11>have date eggs. I mean, besides the copyright protection in Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 11>with all that stuff complicated, it takes a while. What

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<v Speaker 11>do you suggest before I post anything on the website

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<v Speaker 11>that I want to, you know, tell the public about

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<v Speaker 11>my photography.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you taking pictures of like, is this planetary stuff

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<v Speaker 1>or is this just general?

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<v Speaker 11>Well it's mixed. I have, That's that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 11>I have some planetary stuff which requires like a very

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<v Speaker 11>precise equipment to get like, you know, some pictures. So

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<v Speaker 11>I'm reluctant to, uh to put them on the you know,

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<v Speaker 11>on the web, because they can crop them into a

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<v Speaker 11>kind of now you know, you know how it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally understand.

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<v Speaker 1>So, James, my advice is number one, if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start putting this stuff out there, you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there will be people taking it, reusing it, resharing, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what you do. So you have to be prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for that reality. And you just have to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>that is kind of what happens these days.

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<v Speaker 14>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying people should not be paid for their work.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you should. And if you're selling these things,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a whole nother thing. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just putting your stuff out there, you want people to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>You want them to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety nine point nine percent of people will come to

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<v Speaker 1>your website, they'll see it, They'll see it on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But there will be some people that will download it,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll share it, they'll redo it. AI systems will take

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<v Speaker 1>it and regurg it to their own. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>the reality we live in. But with that said, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that number one you should follow my friend Jefferson Graham.

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<v Speaker 1>He does photo walks TV. He is all things photography.

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<v Speaker 1>So go to photowalks. Let's see what is the website

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<v Speaker 1>photowalks dot tv and follow him. He's got a great newsletter.

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<v Speaker 1>He does everything with photography, So photo walks dot TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Photo walks dot TV. His name's Jefferson Graham. Columns for

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<v Speaker 1>the USA Today for a long time now. He travels

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<v Speaker 1>around just showing people how to take great pictures with

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<v Speaker 1>their phones and also some professional equipment. But it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>I think all phones nowadays.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>What I would do your your basic thing to do

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<v Speaker 1>is just watermark your photos. So you can go to

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<v Speaker 1>something like Canva dot com. They give you free watermarking

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<v Speaker 1>on your photos, so you can upload a picture and

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<v Speaker 1>you can put your watermark on there. You can make

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<v Speaker 1>it your logo whatever you want. That's probably the simplest,

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<v Speaker 1>easy way that's going to be the best thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can do now. I know YouTubers and people that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they have hands on with products before everyone else, and

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<v Speaker 1>they they put watermarks on their pictures. People still use it,

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<v Speaker 1>they still share it. It's gonna happen. But for you,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the main thing is just you know, water market.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also do it on a website like smug mug.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the one that Jefferson recommends. That's where he

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<v Speaker 1>puts all of his photos. Now, this is a more

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<v Speaker 1>professional website, so they have things like watermarking built in.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you upload your pictures to that website, it

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<v Speaker 1>will water mark them automatically for you. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>may want to look for a website that lets you

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Otherwise, if you're just looking for like an

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone app or an Android app, there are thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>them out there. I would just search watermark photos and

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<v Speaker 1>you can watermark your photos one by one. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit more of a manual process,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's going to be something that's it's your first

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<v Speaker 1>line of defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks for the call, thanks for the clarification. And

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<v Speaker 1>I knew something was up today.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. Actually, while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Canva, let me just tell you about Microsoft Designer.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Microsoft's answer to Canva. It's an AI powered

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<v Speaker 1>creativity tool, so you can use it to generate all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of great stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got it on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It just came out this week as an iPhone and

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<v Speaker 1>Android app, so it's called Microsoft Designer. You can download

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<v Speaker 1>it for free. You can use AI to make images, stickers,

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<v Speaker 1>social media posts, wallpapers for your phone, avatars that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a fun one, and coloring book pages. You can

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<v Speaker 1>also do a couple of simple things like remove the

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<v Speaker 1>background from a picture. You can blur the background on

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<v Speaker 1>a picture. You can start with a blank design. You

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<v Speaker 1>can describe what you want and it will help you

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<v Speaker 1>make what you want using AI. So again it is

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<v Speaker 1>called Microsoft Designer, and it's pretty much Microsoft's answer to Canva.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Canva, but this is just another alternative. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not as full featured as Canva. I pay the fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>bucks a month for Canva.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if I use it once a month to create something,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's worth it because just having that

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<v Speaker 1>tool at my disposal is incredible. By the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft Designer gives you fifteen free uses per day. You

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<v Speaker 1>can pay for more, so download it iOS Android Microsoft Designer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now let's go to Debra. Are you still there in Carson?

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<v Speaker 1>I am all right here, welcome to the show. What

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<v Speaker 1>can I help you with?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay?

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<v Speaker 15>I currently have a bundle package for my home phone

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<v Speaker 15>that's part of my you know, goes with my internet

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<v Speaker 15>and cable.

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<v Speaker 5>And I want to.

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<v Speaker 15>Disconnect using the bundle package for my home phone and

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<v Speaker 15>go with another device. And I saw something the company Oma. Yes,

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<v Speaker 15>oh om A, And I'm I'm trying to understand how

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<v Speaker 15>that works and how reliable you might think it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and why do why do you want to separate

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<v Speaker 1>from your cable company because you're going to get the

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<v Speaker 1>best deal going through them.

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<v Speaker 15>Actually, for my for my through my cable company, they're

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<v Speaker 15>charging me forty dollars a month for my home phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dump them? Yeah, this is this is much fun.

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<v Speaker 15>I kind of dumped the whole lot. Okay, I'm kind

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<v Speaker 15>of taking it in bits and pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, for sure. So if it's forty bucks a

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<v Speaker 1>month and you could still keep your high speed Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really all you need to get something like UMA.

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<v Speaker 1>UMA's been around forever. It's it's reliable, it works. You

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<v Speaker 1>pay one time for the device, and the device will

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<v Speaker 1>connect to your internet, your high speed internet. They have

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<v Speaker 1>two versions. One is wired, so you plug it in

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<v Speaker 1>with an Ethernet cable to your modem. The other one

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<v Speaker 1>is Wi Fi, which you would just connect like any

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<v Speaker 1>other Wi Fi device, and then you would plug a

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<v Speaker 1>phone into the UMA, like an old school phone, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you can use that phone just like you would

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<v Speaker 1>dial a phone number, call someone, they can call you.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing is the service is free monthly, like

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<v Speaker 1>you pay one time for the actual phone device. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so the device is anywhere between sixty and ninety, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one hundred dollars. But then after that the service

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<v Speaker 1>every month is free. So you do have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>taxes though, that's the main thing to know. So, but otherwise, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then now do I have to.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't have to use a special phone with their device.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just buy a phone at Walmart anywhere, best

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<v Speaker 1>buy it just you know, this standard phone will plug

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<v Speaker 1>into this that has like a standard phone jack on it.

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<v Speaker 15>Uh, huh. And what about a wireless phone hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, yea anything anything, any phone that you could

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<v Speaker 1>plug into like an old school I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>remember the days when we used to have like a

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<v Speaker 1>phone jack in the house, right, Like any phone, any

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<v Speaker 1>phone that you can plug into there, you'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to plug into the back of the UMA uses that

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<v Speaker 1>same technology. So the only difference is back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day there would be a copper cable that went from

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<v Speaker 1>your house to the phone company. Nowadays it's all being

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<v Speaker 1>converted into ones and zeros. It's all digital, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's arriving over the internet. It's it's traveling over the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's basically the only issue. So yeah, UMA's been around forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I had it in my house for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>and it works as advertised, and it's a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>to a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing to have.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, okay, all right, that steals the deal for me.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Thank you, rich Debor.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the gold star today for for actually having

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<v Speaker 1>a question that we can answer and your succinct and

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<v Speaker 1>you are fantastic.

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<v Speaker 15>So I'm okay, I'm bless you with pride.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you all right, take care bye eighty to eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. You are listening to rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro

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<v Speaker 1>emails there, hit contact you can send them in. Randolph

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<v Speaker 1>from Florida writes in love your show and how responsive

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<v Speaker 1>you are?

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<v Speaker 2>Articles for help.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going on my first cruise and reading article articles

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<v Speaker 1>has confused me about how to handle Internet. They say

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<v Speaker 1>to turn on airplane mode whenever on the ship. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I buy the AT and T Cruise Internet Package

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<v Speaker 1>add on, do I still need to do that? Or

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<v Speaker 1>does phone Internet add on make airplane mode unnecessary? So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're buying from AT and T, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>available through your cruise ship, you would use your phone

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<v Speaker 1>as you typically would, but there's going to be data limits.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you look up what the plans are, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a cup love them. You've got AT and T

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<v Speaker 1>Cruise Plus that gives you one gigabyte of data which

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to burn through in about two seconds, or

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<v Speaker 1>AT and T Cruise Basic even worse. You get a

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred megabytes. After that you're going to be charged

1:23:30.800 --> 1:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>overage fees of ten dollars per one hundred megabytes, which

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<v Speaker 1>adds up quickly. So personally, Randolph, I would just turn

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<v Speaker 1>your phone off just enjoy the cruise Internet on cruise ships.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never been on a cruise, so I need to.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably need to go on a cruise to see

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<v Speaker 1>what the deal is with this, because I get so

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<v Speaker 1>many questions about it, and I really just I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been on a cruise. I was actually invited on one

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<v Speaker 1>this week and I said no. I should have said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would I would understand this more. And it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out, what Bobo, you like the cruises? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just went on a cruise in May.

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<v Speaker 2>And did you connect to the internet. No, yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>ship's internet and just to pay for that, yeah, you do.

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<v Speaker 9>You do pay for the ship's internet, and everything on

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<v Speaker 9>your phone is Wi Fi, so you're just connected to it, okay.

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<v Speaker 9>And then if you get an international plan, when you

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<v Speaker 9>dock and where you go, you're on your international plan,

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<v Speaker 9>so it doesn't affect anything, right, Okay, But the cruise

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<v Speaker 9>ship had its own The cruise ship does have its

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<v Speaker 9>own Wi Fi you just have to pay for it's

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<v Speaker 9>a little maybe about things like twenty bucks a day

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<v Speaker 9>or yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're on a cruise for like a week

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, you know it's part of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's part of traveling. It's like when you're on the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>But to be honest, even when I'm on the airplane, like,

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<v Speaker 1>unless I have a reason to connect to the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>I usually don't. Like my last flight from Paris to

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<v Speaker 1>lax I did not connect. I specifically said I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>connecting to the internet. It was expensive and I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to pay for it, and why not. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see here. Joanne, a travel writer and photographer, writes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a follower of years, for years, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>all you do for your listeners. As a travel writer

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<v Speaker 1>and photographer, having an Instagram account is key to my outreach.

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<v Speaker 1>You can imagine how devastated I was after waking up

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday's see I had been locked out of my site.

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<v Speaker 1>To make matters worse, the hacker cloned my site and

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<v Speaker 1>my original site is nowhere to be found. It contained

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<v Speaker 1>nearly a thousand original photos, which I stupidly thought were

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<v Speaker 1>safe and will be a nightmare to restore. I immediately

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<v Speaker 1>contacted what I thought was Instagram help, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>a message back asking for a fee to attach more

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<v Speaker 1>securities to my account. How is it possible that Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>can send me such an obvious new hack even though

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<v Speaker 1>I went through their reporting process. I'm devastated, beyond belief.

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<v Speaker 1>My original Instagram is gone without a trace. Uh yeah, Joanne,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear this all the time. And the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>there's two ways that people hacked. Number One, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>really hacking in they are, but they aren't. So when

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<v Speaker 1>people say their Facebook was hacked or their Instagram was hacked, tip,

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<v Speaker 1>people are being tricked into sharing their password and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have two factor authentication enabled. So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>two factor authentication enabled, which I'm guessing you didn't on

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<v Speaker 1>this account, that is what's going to protect you from

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<v Speaker 1>even if you gave up your password by accident. Like

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is you get a notification that says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something wrong with your Facebook account, there's something wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with your Instagram account, and you go what, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? And you click that URL you

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<v Speaker 1>log in without thinking and that URL is actually phony,

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<v Speaker 1>and so immediately what they do is they take your

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<v Speaker 1>information that you just gave them and they run with

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<v Speaker 1>it and they take over your account and you're never

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<v Speaker 1>going to get it back. So if you have two

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<v Speaker 1>factor authentication enabled, the trick would be that as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you log into that account number one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd realize that. But then when they try to log

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<v Speaker 1>into your account, they're gonna get that message that says

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<v Speaker 1>to get that two factor code texted to them. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to get that texted you and you'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, I didn't what And so that would

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<v Speaker 1>keep them from getting in, but also it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a clue to you that something went wrong. So please

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<v Speaker 1>have two factor authentication enabled on any account that is

1:27:14.200 --> 1:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>vital to you. And Facebook dot com slash hacked or

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram dot com slash hacked is the only way to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get your account back. And I've done many

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<v Speaker 1>stories with folks. It takes a very long time. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a long process.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes a lot of going through hoops, but you

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<v Speaker 1>stay on it and you might get your account back.

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<v Speaker 1>It just could take a long time. Sorry that happened

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Let's say so many questions that we get.

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<v Speaker 1>Marcia writes in I have a Samsung Galaxy S twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one ultra cell phone. What would be the best luggage

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<v Speaker 1>tracking tags? My husband and I do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>international traveling for pleasure. I was looking at the Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>tags and the tile. I'm confused by all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the range?

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<v Speaker 1>How many months do they last? Also, what's a good

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<v Speaker 1>tag for my dog? If you have a Samsung phone,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends with Android. You can go two ways. Google

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<v Speaker 1>has their own called find my Device. You can go

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<v Speaker 1>with a tag that works with that and that will

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<v Speaker 1>work with any Android phone. Or if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go just Samsung specific, they have their own tags called

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<v Speaker 1>the smart tag too. That might be a better bet

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<v Speaker 1>because you have a Samsung phone, but it only uses

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<v Speaker 1>other Samsung phones to find them. I'd say the Android

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<v Speaker 1>ones are probably better, but those tags are more limited

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<v Speaker 1>and they work anywhere there's phones. All right, Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk to Jared Newman about streaming services.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you talking technology. The website for the show

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech dot TV. What a show it's been today.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Newman writes a great newsletter called Advisorator, and recently

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<v Speaker 1>he came out with an entire guide on cord cutting.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared friend of the show, So welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Rich, thanks for having me on again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, always enjoy getting your newsletter. I think you're one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first guests on this show. This is your

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<v Speaker 1>cord cutterweekly dot com newsletter. So one of the cool

1:29:14.240 --> 1:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>things you do is you have an entire list of,

1:29:17.479 --> 1:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>like all the streaming deals that you keep track of.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one cool aspect. But tell me about this

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<v Speaker 1>complete guide to chord cutting. What was the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>you wrote this.

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<v Speaker 13>It's just something I've wanted to do for a really

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<v Speaker 13>long time, basically assembling all this knowledge that I've put together.

1:29:36.840 --> 1:29:40.400
<v Speaker 13>I mean, I've been writing a weekly column for tech

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<v Speaker 13>Hive about We're Cutting for almost a decade now, so

1:29:45.200 --> 1:29:47.800
<v Speaker 13>I helped a lot of people get rid of cable,

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<v Speaker 13>get read of satellite TV, save money on streaming, and

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<v Speaker 13>I just kind of wanted to put together like a

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<v Speaker 13>big collection of things on like where to start answering

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<v Speaker 13>all the common questions that I've gotten over the years.

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<v Speaker 13>Just walking through every step of the process of like

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<v Speaker 13>you're starting at square one. You know you need to

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<v Speaker 13>get rid of Spectrum TV or Comcast or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 13>And you know where do you go from just that

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<v Speaker 13>wanting to do it to actually doing it?

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<v Speaker 3>So I put together a.

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<v Speaker 13>Set of online guides and then I made a PDF

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<v Speaker 13>version because there was a lot of people that wanted

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<v Speaker 13>that document and that I launched that maybe a month

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<v Speaker 13>or a month and a half ago, and it's been

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<v Speaker 13>a great, great response.

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<v Speaker 3>Really glad that I finally put that all together.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess to start, the number one question is

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<v Speaker 1>should you cut the cord? I mean, it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be it was a lot cheaper to cut the cord.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that has changed depending on what you subscribe to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you still think it's a better way to go?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean I think one thing that often gets lost

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<v Speaker 13>sight of is cable got more expensive too, right, and

1:30:49.920 --> 1:30:51.200
<v Speaker 13>satellite got more expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time there's a price site for Netflix or what

1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:54.000
<v Speaker 3>have you.

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<v Speaker 13>There's a lot of grousing about that, obviously, but you

1:30:57.720 --> 1:30:59.800
<v Speaker 13>look at your cable bill and those are going up

1:30:59.800 --> 1:31:02.280
<v Speaker 13>by the same or more on a yearly basis. And

1:31:02.320 --> 1:31:03.880
<v Speaker 13>that's why a lot of people are still looking at

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<v Speaker 13>this and figuring that they have to do it. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 13>there's a lot of different ways to.

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<v Speaker 3>Cut the cord. In some ways, it's easier now because you.

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<v Speaker 13>Can get a lot of the stuff that you couldn't

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<v Speaker 13>get at all when I dropped cable in two thousand

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<v Speaker 13>and eight, and you know, it was kind of like

1:31:19.680 --> 1:31:22.400
<v Speaker 13>if you wanted to watch something on HBO, you were

1:31:22.439 --> 1:31:24.120
<v Speaker 13>just out of luck. And so now you can just

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<v Speaker 13>subscribe to Max by itself and get that content.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, there's talk to them. I talk a lot

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<v Speaker 3>in the guide about is just sort of this path.

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<v Speaker 13>You go down of do you subscribe to one of

1:31:36.040 --> 1:31:39.040
<v Speaker 13>these big TV packages that's kind of like cable or

1:31:39.080 --> 1:31:41.120
<v Speaker 13>do you kind of go your own way with things

1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:43.000
<v Speaker 13>like Netflix and Max and Hulu.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I finally convinced my wife to cut

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<v Speaker 1>the cord. This was a couple of years ago. It

1:31:48.400 --> 1:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like a big deal in our house,

1:31:49.920 --> 1:31:54.519
<v Speaker 1>Like she was very concerned and with some reasoning. You know,

1:31:54.920 --> 1:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of validated over the years because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's tricky to figure out like where's this streaming?

1:32:00.720 --> 1:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>How do we watch this game? Like I remember watching

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<v Speaker 1>like specifically like award shows. You know, she wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>watch like a certain award show. I'm like, I don't

1:32:08.439 --> 1:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>really have a good way of doing that, because you know,

1:32:10.760 --> 1:32:12.559
<v Speaker 1>we have all the Netflix and stuff, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have at that time, like a good you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>just need like over the air or like maybe something

1:32:17.439 --> 1:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>was on like E back in the day, you know,

1:32:19.320 --> 1:32:22.479
<v Speaker 1>like I remember that Channel E. You know. It's like

1:32:22.960 --> 1:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't really have a way of

1:32:24.600 --> 1:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>accessing that because there was no service to get it on.

1:32:28.040 --> 1:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>But now that's all changed because so many people are

1:32:30.040 --> 1:32:34.519
<v Speaker 1>getting cable streaming packages, like on their streaming service, which

1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>is kind of like the same price.

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<v Speaker 13>So my parents cut the cord. I think it was

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<v Speaker 13>maybe like a year ago. I'd been trying to get

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<v Speaker 13>them to do it for forever. You know, they had

1:32:46.600 --> 1:32:50.920
<v Speaker 13>Verizon FiOS on Maryland, and you know I got them

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<v Speaker 13>on YouTube TV, which is seventy three dollars a month.

1:32:53.280 --> 1:32:56.200
<v Speaker 13>It's not super cheap, but compared to what they were

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<v Speaker 13>getting with Verizon, you know, I think it would end

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<v Speaker 13>up saying like hundred dollars a months when you.

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<v Speaker 3>Take out all the boxes and DVR and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 13>And of course once they did it, they were like, man,

1:33:07.720 --> 1:33:10.439
<v Speaker 13>we really should have done this years ago, and they're

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<v Speaker 13>very happy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think, and I think what I always tell

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<v Speaker 1>people is that it's really about the flexibility that the

1:33:18.000 --> 1:33:20.519
<v Speaker 1>cord cutting gives you. You know, if you want to pause,

1:33:20.600 --> 1:33:23.519
<v Speaker 1>if you know, budgets tight whatever, or maybe you just

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch free stuff on like what's the one

1:33:25.800 --> 1:33:27.479
<v Speaker 1>to be I think it's called it's like the you know,

1:33:27.520 --> 1:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>they have like a lot of Pluto. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like so many like free ad supported services. But the

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<v Speaker 1>number one thing I always tell people is you have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what do you want to watch? Like

1:33:37.080 --> 1:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>is there a particular sports team? Is there a particular channel?

1:33:40.040 --> 1:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Like for some people it's like I just want to

1:33:41.320 --> 1:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>watch Bravo. It's like, okay, well let's find the streaming

1:33:44.040 --> 1:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>service that's the cheapest that offers that channel. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>is there ways of doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>It depends on the content.

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<v Speaker 13>So, like like I was kind of saying before, I

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<v Speaker 13>always start from the perspective of like, are you just

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<v Speaker 13>wanting to drop in these very specific cable channels, in

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<v Speaker 13>which case you're going to need something like YouTube TV

1:34:02.160 --> 1:34:05.519
<v Speaker 13>or Sling TV. You know, live TV streaming services what

1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:08.720
<v Speaker 13>I kind of kind of call them, but you can.

1:34:08.840 --> 1:34:10.519
<v Speaker 13>It's like, all right, well am I willing to be?

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<v Speaker 13>Think of it on the spectrum of like how flexible

1:34:13.439 --> 1:34:15.439
<v Speaker 13>am I willing to be? Because I want to save money?

1:34:15.760 --> 1:34:17.840
<v Speaker 13>Because if you are more flexible, then you go down

1:34:17.920 --> 1:34:20.320
<v Speaker 13>that path like you said of oh, well, you know,

1:34:20.360 --> 1:34:22.160
<v Speaker 13>if I look at Peacock, it turns out they have

1:34:22.320 --> 1:34:25.559
<v Speaker 13>a lot of Bravo content. I don't think they offer

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<v Speaker 13>like a direct one to one equivalent of like the

1:34:28.800 --> 1:34:31.640
<v Speaker 13>Bravo live stream, but they have the same shows. So

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<v Speaker 13>are you willing to have that versus like I want

1:34:34.680 --> 1:34:37.280
<v Speaker 13>a DVR and I want this like very specific DVR

1:34:37.439 --> 1:34:41.360
<v Speaker 13>concept of recording shows. You know, the more rigid you are,

1:34:41.600 --> 1:34:44.000
<v Speaker 13>maybe maybe the more you end up having to pay

1:34:44.280 --> 1:34:46.160
<v Speaker 13>or maybe it just doesn't end up working out for you.

1:34:46.760 --> 1:34:48.599
<v Speaker 13>But if you're very flexible, you can save a ton

1:34:48.640 --> 1:34:48.960
<v Speaker 13>of money.

1:34:49.840 --> 1:34:52.640
<v Speaker 2>So what is your guidance? What did you learn in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the creating of this guide?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, you know, one thing I've learned, maybe not in

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<v Speaker 13>the creation this guide, but just like over the years,

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<v Speaker 13>Like the number one question that I get is like

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<v Speaker 13>I want DVR, So it really like that is like

1:35:11.760 --> 1:35:13.920
<v Speaker 13>a big thing I put in the guy's like, yes,

1:35:14.080 --> 1:35:17.559
<v Speaker 13>you can have DVR if you sign up for one

1:35:17.600 --> 1:35:20.719
<v Speaker 13>of these live TV streaming services. They all include DVR.

1:35:21.360 --> 1:35:23.880
<v Speaker 13>I do like to there's kind of these other workarounds

1:35:23.920 --> 1:35:26.240
<v Speaker 13>you can go down where you can record from services

1:35:26.360 --> 1:35:30.640
<v Speaker 13>like Netflix or skip commercials and services like Netflix if

1:35:30.680 --> 1:35:34.200
<v Speaker 13>you use the right tools. They're kind of hacky, nerdy workarounds,

1:35:34.240 --> 1:35:36.680
<v Speaker 13>but I like to highlight those two for people who

1:35:36.760 --> 1:35:39.599
<v Speaker 13>have a little bit more technical wherewithal and maybe want

1:35:39.640 --> 1:35:41.040
<v Speaker 13>to have a little bit more control over that.

1:35:41.640 --> 1:35:45.519
<v Speaker 1>So that's the number one question, the DVR. What's number two?

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<v Speaker 1>Is sports always kind of like the big driver of

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, Not.

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<v Speaker 3>Necessarily, I mean, I guess I would say like the

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<v Speaker 3>number two.

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<v Speaker 13>It's just kind of that, like you said, the catch

1:35:58.880 --> 1:36:02.719
<v Speaker 13>all of like I want X, Y or Z specific program,

1:36:03.240 --> 1:36:06.120
<v Speaker 13>specific show. Sometimes it is like I want to watch

1:36:06.200 --> 1:36:08.920
<v Speaker 13>this specific team, And of course the answer is always

1:36:08.920 --> 1:36:10.840
<v Speaker 13>going to vary depending on where you are and what

1:36:11.600 --> 1:36:15.160
<v Speaker 13>show or channel it is, but usually there's a way.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like the most thorough guide I've ever seen

1:36:18.280 --> 1:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>in my life on streaming, Like I'm reading through some

1:36:21.000 --> 1:36:24.360
<v Speaker 1>of these things like you know, you you go into

1:36:24.439 --> 1:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like how to watch CBS, how to watch ABC, how

1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>to watch NBC, how to watch Fox, how to watch PBS,

1:36:30.160 --> 1:36:32.439
<v Speaker 1>how to watch your local news, how to watch national

1:36:32.479 --> 1:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and international news. Also you've got a great uh you

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<v Speaker 1>linked up to the streamable which has like a matchmaker.

1:36:40.080 --> 1:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a pretty useful tool as well. Can

1:36:42.680 --> 1:36:43.280
<v Speaker 1>you tell me about that.

1:36:43.920 --> 1:36:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a few tools like that.

1:36:46.160 --> 1:36:47.760
<v Speaker 13>I think I'll linked to at least two or three

1:36:47.800 --> 1:36:51.360
<v Speaker 13>of them, where you basically you plug in the channels

1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:55.160
<v Speaker 13>that you want and they will tell you the live

1:36:55.240 --> 1:36:57.000
<v Speaker 13>TV streaming services that match.

1:36:57.240 --> 1:36:58.720
<v Speaker 3>So if you are like, you know, I want to

1:36:58.760 --> 1:37:00.800
<v Speaker 3>watch ABC, CNN.

1:37:00.640 --> 1:37:03.400
<v Speaker 13>And PBS, okay, you put those in and it will

1:37:03.439 --> 1:37:06.840
<v Speaker 13>tell you which services have those those particular channels. I

1:37:06.880 --> 1:37:09.200
<v Speaker 13>think I may have linked to a service called my

1:37:09.479 --> 1:37:13.320
<v Speaker 13>Bundle dot tv, which is a little a little more

1:37:13.360 --> 1:37:16.960
<v Speaker 13>interesting because they do have that kind of thing. But

1:37:17.040 --> 1:37:20.759
<v Speaker 13>then they also will recommend some of those standalone services

1:37:20.800 --> 1:37:23.320
<v Speaker 13>that may be cheaper. So if you say, you know,

1:37:23.400 --> 1:37:25.960
<v Speaker 13>I want to watch NBC, they might say, well, have

1:37:26.080 --> 1:37:29.439
<v Speaker 13>you considered just subscribing to peacock where some of these

1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:33.120
<v Speaker 13>other services don't They don't recommend those smaller, uh cheaper

1:37:33.160 --> 1:37:36.640
<v Speaker 13>streaming services like that. So yeah, I mean it's just

1:37:36.760 --> 1:37:39.240
<v Speaker 13>a it's just a matter of kind of helping people

1:37:40.160 --> 1:37:42.840
<v Speaker 13>figure out exactly what they need. Like you said, there's

1:37:42.840 --> 1:37:45.200
<v Speaker 13>so many different paths you can go down, and it's

1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:46.519
<v Speaker 13>just a matter of choosing the right one.

1:37:46.720 --> 1:37:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's almost like I choose your own adventure book.

1:37:48.920 --> 1:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>But in a uh in a guide, what do you

1:37:51.400 --> 1:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>what do you like for uh, you know, streaming versus

1:37:55.560 --> 1:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, people get these smart TVs.

1:37:57.760 --> 1:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>What's your guidance on that?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think people should get like separate device to

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<v Speaker 1>stream or just use what's included on their TV?

1:38:03.360 --> 1:38:04.360
<v Speaker 2>And what device do you like?

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<v Speaker 13>People have strong opinions on that. I tend to say, like,

1:38:09.160 --> 1:38:11.400
<v Speaker 13>if you have a smart TV and it's fairly recent,

1:38:12.320 --> 1:38:15.680
<v Speaker 13>there's really no harm in like using it, And if

1:38:15.720 --> 1:38:19.400
<v Speaker 13>it has the apps that you want and you're fine

1:38:19.479 --> 1:38:23.360
<v Speaker 13>with the interface and it's fast enough, then that's fine.

1:38:23.560 --> 1:38:23.680
<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You can always add a streaming device later. You already

1:38:28.560 --> 1:38:31.080
<v Speaker 3>bought this TV. You may not need to like throw

1:38:31.160 --> 1:38:34.560
<v Speaker 3>more money at more hardware if it's not necessary, So

1:38:34.960 --> 1:38:38.200
<v Speaker 3>at least give it a try, you know, in my case,

1:38:38.640 --> 1:38:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I have a.

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<v Speaker 13>High Sense TV that runs Android Google TV, I should say,

1:38:45.320 --> 1:38:48.080
<v Speaker 13>and it's okay, but I prefer Apple TV.

1:38:48.240 --> 1:38:50.719
<v Speaker 3>I just like the interface. It's faster and cleaner.

1:38:51.120 --> 1:38:53.519
<v Speaker 13>There's no annoying like banner ads or things that kind

1:38:53.560 --> 1:38:56.720
<v Speaker 13>of glutter up the UI, and I like what they

1:38:56.840 --> 1:39:00.519
<v Speaker 13>generally do around surfacing shows that you're already watching and

1:39:00.600 --> 1:39:02.920
<v Speaker 13>making it easier to pick up where you left off.

1:39:03.240 --> 1:39:05.720
<v Speaker 13>So that's our default in the living room is Apple

1:39:05.800 --> 1:39:08.320
<v Speaker 13>TV four K connected to that TV, and I just

1:39:08.400 --> 1:39:11.960
<v Speaker 13>had it set up to like bypass the default smart

1:39:12.000 --> 1:39:15.280
<v Speaker 13>TV interface and it just skips directly to the Apple

1:39:15.320 --> 1:39:16.960
<v Speaker 13>TV input when I turn it on.

1:39:17.360 --> 1:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I also have a High Sense TV, and I just

1:39:19.320 --> 1:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>realized that I can press the Google Assistant button and

1:39:22.320 --> 1:39:24.280
<v Speaker 1>it overlays on my Apple TV.

1:39:24.280 --> 1:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>That I'm using.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, wait a second, what I thought

1:39:27.200 --> 1:39:29.559
<v Speaker 1>I had to be on their home screen? But Apple

1:39:29.640 --> 1:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>TV is the last holdout that does not have ads

1:39:33.360 --> 1:39:36.320
<v Speaker 1>on the home screen. Fire TV is littered with them,

1:39:36.400 --> 1:39:39.599
<v Speaker 1>and so is Roku, and they're now they're like auto playing,

1:39:39.680 --> 1:39:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and so it's really gotten like where the Apple TV

1:39:41.960 --> 1:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>is pretty calm compared to everything else that's going on

1:39:45.800 --> 1:39:49.479
<v Speaker 1>these other ones, Jared, how can folks find this cord

1:39:49.520 --> 1:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>cutting guide?

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<v Speaker 13>So if you want to just type in chordcutterweekly dot

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<v Speaker 13>com slash guide that will take you to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 13>I appreciate if you sign up for my news life

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<v Speaker 13>Atcordcutter Weekly dot com as well. I usually link to

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<v Speaker 13>the guide somewhere in the newsletter so you can find

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<v Speaker 13>it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And the definitely check out the big list of streaming

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<v Speaker 1>deals that's regularly updated by you on cord Cutter Weekly

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Newman, thanks so much for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Rich as always.

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<v Speaker 1>and like see what they look like. Now, it's not everything,

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<v Speaker 1>not all the details, but still AI is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>part of these phones. You can see what the design

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<v Speaker 1>of the Pixel nine Pro fold. It's flatter, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a rounder footprint Pixel nine Apparently they're going to come

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<v Speaker 1>out with the Pixel nine Pro in two sizes, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of nice. You can you can choose, do

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<v Speaker 1>you on a smaller phone, bigger phone, but it's still

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have the same features. The official event is scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>for August thirteenth. I'm looking forward to it. I will

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<v Speaker 1>be there and if you want to check these out,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to the Google Store and see what

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<v Speaker 1>that's all about. Came across a handy website this week.

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<v Speaker 1>If you like to use Siri siriuserguide dot com. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a website that it helps you understand what Siri

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<v Speaker 1>is capable of. Now, there's lots of user guides on

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<v Speaker 1>Apple's website, but this one kind of shows you a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of cool different things you can do with Siri.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're just looking to expand your knowledge of Siri,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll tell you you know how to use Siri to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to music, how to use it to send audio messages,

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<v Speaker 1>how to all kinds of stuff, read text to you, WhatsApp,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want, siriuserguide dot com. And it keeps activating

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<v Speaker 1>my phone, so I apologize if it's activating yours. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a college student or if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>college student there max is offering fifty percent off the

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<v Speaker 1>streaming service. Now, when I was in college, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>afford any streaming service, so I don't know. You may

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<v Speaker 1>have to put the bill on this one for your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's five dollars per month instead of the usual ten,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can look for this promotion. HBO Max is

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent off for US college students. I'll put the

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<v Speaker 1>link on the website time for feedback. These are the emails,

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<v Speaker 1>the comments, and the questions I get from you. Guermo

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<v Speaker 1>from Los Angeles writes in regarding the caller about Spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi, I had a similar problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting slow internet speed. I called Spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>They ran the test from their end, saying I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting the proper speed, but I set up an appointment

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<v Speaker 1>for a tech to come out. Anyway, the tech came

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<v Speaker 1>out and found one of my cables to the modem

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<v Speaker 1>was loose. Why didn't I think of that? No problems now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was not charged for the visit. Also, Spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>will supply you with Wi Fi extenders for three dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some feedback on the crazy callers earlier. Catherine

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<v Speaker 1>from Upland rights in rich being a labor and delivery nurse,

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<v Speaker 1>we are all aware of what the quote full moon

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<v Speaker 1>can mean craziness. Also, on this day in nineteen sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>we walked on the moon. I'm assuming she means like

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<v Speaker 1>people walked on the moon, not her.

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<v Speaker 2>As care about it. I'm not an astrologist. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>even a word, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Marie from Los Angeles writes in maybe the person with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bank of America issue should reset their password again yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good idea. Always try the password reset.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark writes in, you suggested that the best one can

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<v Speaker 1>hope for for speed over Wi Fi is about half

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<v Speaker 1>compared to connecting via Ethernet. Actually, I have a supplied

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<v Speaker 1>cable modem SLASH router on a three hundred megabits per

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<v Speaker 1>second plan. I get about three hundred and thirty megabits

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<v Speaker 1>per second. I'm in the office where the router is located.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the full speed over the five gigahertz Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 1>The two point four gigaherts is slower, but doesn't everyone

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<v Speaker 1>have a router with five gigaherts these days?

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<v Speaker 2>Even down the hall, I still.

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<v Speaker 1>Get about two fifty All right, Well, Mark, Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just giving people kind of an idea that you

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<v Speaker 1>may not get the full speed over Wi Fi that

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<v Speaker 1>you would get via wired.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad it's working out for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter from San Pedro writes in, my wife ran across

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<v Speaker 1>a TikTok video recently warning to check your Amazon Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Day Deals receipt as some deals were less expensive. The

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<v Speaker 1>next day, after Prime Day Deals ended, she tallied up

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<v Speaker 1>her receipts and did find a seven dollars difference. Might

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<v Speaker 1>seem like not like a lot, but I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you question Prime Day. Is that really their best

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<v Speaker 1>deals of the year.

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>My wife feels kind of cheated and questions Amazon's motives.

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<v Speaker 1>She did contact customer service and they offered a refund

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<v Speaker 1>of ten dollars. Here's the deal with Prime Day.

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<v Speaker 5>You got it.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's a deal to you, it's a deal. So

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff I bought, it was definitely cheaper on Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Day than it was on other days. All the random

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<v Speaker 1>stuff they're selling, I can't vouch for it, but yes

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Some of it's better, some of it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you got to check those prices. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>some other stuff here. We got more about Prime Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Gheramo writes in is this Garmo? Do we have two

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<v Speaker 1>Gharamos this time? He said, you can get Vic's Premium

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<v Speaker 1>with ads if you're a Spectrum customer. It's a Spanish

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<v Speaker 1>language streaming service similar to Peacock. Good service. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>able to listen to your show live. I listened via

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<v Speaker 1>podcast in parts. I'm glad you make it available this way.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Joanne and Tony from San Diego write in, my husband

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<v Speaker 1>and I listen to your podcast religiously and are so

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for the knowledge you impart to your listeners. Many

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<v Speaker 1>of us, many of them like us, really need to

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going on in the tech world out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Warmest regards and thanks, thank you, Joanne and Patricia. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>with so many apps and items to subscribe to, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>deeming this the year two power back for our family.

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<v Speaker 1>I could never delete your newsletter. Your information is way

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<v Speaker 1>too valuable in our techy world and most of us

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<v Speaker 1>I trust your and most of all, I trust your

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<v Speaker 1>reporting wholeheartedly.

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<v Speaker 2>Smile.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the best out there, Patricia. Thank you, Patricia. That's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it for this episode of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find links to everything I mentioned on my website.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go to rich on tech dot tv. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find me on social media. I am at rich on tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next week, I've got some tips and tricks

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<v Speaker 1>for traveling internationally with your smartphone.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned a lot when I was over in Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a whole list of the things you can

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<v Speaker 1>do to make sure your prep to avoid those roaming charges,

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<v Speaker 1>get around like a local, stay connected, watch your stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on the go. I'll have that all next week. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much, for listening. There are so many ways you

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<v Speaker 1>can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending it

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<v Speaker 1>right here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes this

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<v Speaker 1>show possible. I'm rich Tomiro.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you real soon.