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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're trying to break some

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Speaker 1: news while on the peloton. I'm Craig Rosenthal here in

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis the convention Center with my friend, not even a

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Speaker 1: friend of me, just a friend, Ian Rapaport. I'm not

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Speaker 1: the one breaking news while on the peloton. You are

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Speaker 1: my friend.

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Speaker 2: It is true. That is true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a I'm always a little bit nervous when

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Speaker 3: news comes in the peloton. I want to type it

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Speaker 3: out beforehand because sometimes if there's like droplets of water,

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Speaker 3: to have a typo, so I had to talot off

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Speaker 3: hits end. Kyle Pitts getting franchise tagged is the news, yeah,

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Speaker 3: which is like not a total surprise, but it was

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Speaker 3: interesting to me because if you had asked me last year,

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Speaker 3: like what is the career trajectory of Kyle Pitts, I

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Speaker 3: don't know that it would be like fifteen million dollar

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Speaker 2: But here we are. I want to get into that.

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Speaker 2: We're going to start with it.

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Speaker 1: But I mentioned the breaking the news on the peloton

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Speaker 1: because we're texting about did Ian get to Indianapolis in time?

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Speaker 1: And he's texting us, but you literally text it, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll be there. I'll see you in an hour. We're

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Speaker 1: taping this Monday afternoon. But you literally texted us within

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Speaker 1: seconds of hitting this other tweet. And I've seen you

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Speaker 1: do other podcasts and stuff where you're talking about that

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Speaker 1: you send hundreds of text like you could just wait

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Speaker 1: to send us something. Doesn't that make you a little

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Speaker 1: anxious that you're texting us seconds before breaking news.

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Speaker 3: It makes me anxious to not text back, Like I

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Speaker 3: have like group chats with friends from home and family

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Speaker 3: and like high school buddies and whatever, And sometimes I

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Speaker 3: have to stop myself from responding so quickly because like

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Speaker 3: in work world, I respond quickly because like let's say,

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Speaker 3: let's say you're talking to a head coach or coordinator,

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Speaker 3: right like they get to their desk, they pick up

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Speaker 3: their phone, they text you back, and if you don't

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Speaker 3: text back immediately, like they might put their phone over

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Speaker 3: there and like that's it. So if you need something else,

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Speaker 3: like you'd send the text back immediately. And like same

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Speaker 3: thing with agents, like if they're doing a deal, they

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Speaker 3: might pick up the phone be like deal just got done.

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Speaker 3: If you have any questions, like you better ask now

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Speaker 3: because of my big All right, now, we're doing line

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Speaker 3: which I'll see you in two and a half hours.

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Speaker 2: And I respect you do that with us as well.

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Speaker 1: If I send you just a random text, is x

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Speaker 1: Y is DJ reader too high in my top one

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Speaker 1: to one? You'll send it back right away. What we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do on this show, and yes, the Top one

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Speaker 1: to one free Agents is out. Check it out on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com. The final version is almost embarrassingly different

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Speaker 1: from the one that I talked about on the podcast

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. You talked about your pre version, your rough draft.

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Speaker 1: It was a rough draft and we were kind of

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Speaker 1: working it out. Ali Connelly helped me out, I said,

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Speaker 1: he said, my most Trumpian quality is that I listened

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Speaker 1: a lot to the last person that I spoke with,

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Speaker 1: So in this case, he was my Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 2: And you'll see some players.

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Speaker 1: Like Charlie Kohler and Jalen Naylor who ended up being

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Speaker 1: much higher on the list. So we're going to go

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Speaker 1: through some players. But what I'm gonna do Ian doesn't

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Speaker 1: know what the topics are. I'm going to go through

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Speaker 1: a bunch of news. I just want the I intake

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Speaker 1: of a lot of the biggest stories in the NFL

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Speaker 1: and some of the free agents. But why not just

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Speaker 1: start with since we got there, you broke the news.

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Speaker 1: Do you actually think he could get a long term

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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I don't see why not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, to me, I'm always surprised when a team

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Speaker 3: like he's a franchise tag for I think it's gonna

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Speaker 3: what he gets this year. Next year it's a little higher.

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Speaker 3: So let's say you have a basically right now, assuming

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Speaker 3: Pittsworth sixteen plus eighteen million dollars. Right, so if you

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Speaker 2: He gets happy, he avoids the whole drama. You avoid

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Speaker 3: Like it's to me if the value, like the value

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Speaker 3: I don't know Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, some like top

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Speaker 1: Kyler Linderbaum, it's maybe too high at the tackle.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think there's a chance they do.

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Speaker 1: franchise tag as a test drive with a new scheme,

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Speaker 1: I think they should get rid of the franchise tag,

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Speaker 1: but since they have it available to them, a one

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Speaker 1: year deal, no long term money, for Kyle Pits sounds perfect.

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Speaker 2: He might not be a great long signing.

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Speaker 1: I had a below Kate and in my top one

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Speaker 3: Those ones and I have one more thing on Pits

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Speaker 3: might do extremely well in free and so like there's

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Speaker 3: last year, nobody kN whom Milton Williams was unless you

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Speaker 3: He had major knee surgery and sometimes it a couple

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Speaker 1: That was his second year when yeah, he didn't produce much,

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Speaker 1: the top of my list. Malik Willis number one overall

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Speaker 3: So Miami, obviously, it's like, okay, well he has his

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Speaker 3: You had someone whose defensive coordinators so saw him up close.

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Speaker 3: Can they afford another thirty five million dollar quarterback? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Malik Willis will get a Daniel Jones Gino

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray two point zero, and to me, Malik Willis

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Speaker 2: But you have to have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You have to keep taking swings, and they're not going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say I'm pretty clear on why I

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Speaker 3: believe it's happening with Tua. It seems like he's going

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Speaker 3: a new coach, it's a new offense.

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Speaker 2: He got benched last year, but like.

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Speaker 3: Clearly wasn't right and like clearly his injury was worse

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Speaker 3: I don't know what Kyler Murray is, but there have

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Speaker 3: not sure on that one. The Malik Willis thing is

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Speaker 3: really interesting to me. Matt Lafour did such an unbelievable

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Speaker 3: but took a guy that nobody wanted discarded. Trading for

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Speaker 3: and he resurrected his career. And like, there is a

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Speaker 3: possibility that Malik Willis ends up being what everyone thought

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Speaker 1: Which would be like an A plus starter, which would

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Speaker 3: George Pickens for a year was awesome. Might they and

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Speaker 3: they got him for three Might they trade him? Might

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Speaker 2: That would make the most sense to me.

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Speaker 1: That's why I put Malik Willis number one in George

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Speaker 1: while we're here with the Cowboys. Javonte Williams got a

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Speaker 3: It's always you know, I talked to agents a lot,

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Speaker 2: You don't have to whisper it.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Joel Siegel did it, you know, eight years ago.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I thought.

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Speaker 3: This was all Like if you're a good starting running back,

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Speaker 1: Who else is available running back in breeceehall, Mike get

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Speaker 1: We'll see mikel I think etn at ken Walker get paid.

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Speaker 3: Ken Walker's probably above that, but like, like Rico Dallas

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Speaker 1: I don't think he will though, So I look, I

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Javonte Williams was getting that elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: The other thing they could be like we're good, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're checking the news while you're doing this.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing your Instagram pop up. It says you've had

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Speaker 1: Actually, Ian's a good guy. He tweeted out today the

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Speaker 2: I'm not always helping people, but I am. He is

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Speaker 1: I you know, he's not everyone's flavor, but once you

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of blackjack gum? No, I'm not

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Speaker 1: For some reason, I heard someone mention blackjack gum in

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say to that.

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Speaker 1: I think just dead silence is perfect. The Colts and

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Speaker 1: with Shane Steigen? Does he fit with everyone? He's still

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have Malik Willis. I think his ceiling might

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Speaker 1: him and Alec Pierce both being available.

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Speaker 1: He's my number five overall player. Michael Pittman is on

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Speaker 3: Especially, so I'm gonna be really interested to see Daniel

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Speaker 3: it was like, you know, is Saquon going to get tagged?

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Speaker 3: Is Daniel Jones going to get tagged in the end,

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Speaker 2: Deal, But is he gonna do a deal this time?

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Speaker 3: I mean the deal could end up similar to the

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Speaker 1: Forties, multi year Like what what do you think you're

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think multi year deal would make sense.

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Speaker 3: He's a quarterback, Like, he's young, he's a good guy,

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Speaker 3: even still I'm like, are we serious? Like is this

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Speaker 3: really what I had that dumb check double check, because

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Speaker 3: he like he really played in a broken leg, Like

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Speaker 3: that's the guy you want.

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Speaker 2: It's just can you do a long term deal?

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Speaker 3: And if they do a long term deal, then I

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Speaker 3: wonder if Alec Pierce gets tagged, taking another top free

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Speaker 3: agent receiver off the market, which always seems to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think that is how it should happen. Tagging Dania

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Speaker 1: Jones doesn't really make like a lot of sense to me.

447
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Speaker 1: I take I've never gotten out about the Dania Jones situation.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready for it. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Remember how everyone was giving his friends that he's got

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Speaker 1: these super smart friends from where was it, Stanford? I

451
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Speaker 1: should know this, you know, from that helped like create this,

452
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Speaker 1: you know, spe brace that was gonna let him play

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Speaker 1: through a broken leg and then he tore his achilles

454
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Speaker 1: like a game and a half later, and no one

455
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Speaker 1: was like, maybe these are connected, Maybe you shouldn't have.

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Speaker 2: Been playing on the broken leg.

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Speaker 1: We're all giving your buddies a ton of credit for

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Speaker 1: their their great brace, and your career was kind of

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Speaker 1: altered forever. Two games later, no one's seeing that there's

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Speaker 1: a connection here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the the base they.

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Speaker 1: Were using one leg a little more and like, well

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Speaker 1: it was a different leg, yeah, because you're making up

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Speaker 1: for the other leg that's freaking broken.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just the same thing happened to Lindsay Vaughn.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's like skiing on a torn acl and her body's different,

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Speaker 3: she's not a stable and she shatters her leg in

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Speaker 3: a way that she'll maybe never recover, Like it's called

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Speaker 3: cascading injuries, and like it really like one thing affects

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Speaker 3: the other thing, and like, yeah, I mean playing with

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Speaker 3: a broken leg, I'm sure affected.

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Speaker 1: These This is why you know Ian makes the big money.

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Speaker 1: This is why Ian went out of his way to

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Speaker 1: get here before the winter storm. That's how much he

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Speaker 1: wants to be on NFL Daily. That he flew to

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Speaker 1: Florida to fly to Indianapolis from New York because he

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Speaker 1: was afraid of getting stuck in the winter storm missing

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Speaker 1: NFL Daily.

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Speaker 2: And so that's the type of person. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: the head.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say, interestingly enough, flying for fourteen hours, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: doesn't make you feel the greatest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interestingly, Yeah, you're being very generous a time. I

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Speaker 1: have a lot to get through. We're gonna take quick break,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back, We're gonna fly through. Obviously, we

487
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Speaker 1: don't have to take the brand of this show. Obviously

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Speaker 1: I watch a lot, so I know, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: more of a it's more of an audio thing. But

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Speaker 1: you can check us out on YouTube. Back in a second,

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Speaker 1: back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Back in Super Bowl we we talked to Kyle Hamilton

494
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Speaker 1: and he was there with Visa who teamed up with

495
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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton to spotlight the communities that power Game Week,

496
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Speaker 1: especially the small businesses in neighborhoods where culture happens through

497
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Speaker 1: the launch of the Visa and main platform. Visa is

498
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Speaker 1: helping local businesses get the visibility tools and support they

499
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Speaker 1: need to capitalize on major moments like the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and stay long after the crowd's head home. Ian is

501
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Speaker 1: barely paying attention to me. He's looking at his phone,

502
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Speaker 1: but he's still given good, good takes.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to lead to before about.

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Speaker 1: Get a man that can do both that You had

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Speaker 1: good good Olympics analogy. Did you have a favorite Olympics moment?

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've mentioned the Olympics one.

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Speaker 2: I mean really not. I think it just hasn't come up.

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Speaker 3: It was I love the Olympics, but I was in

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Speaker 3: Deer Valley skiing and like Rich skuy Prohams, poor athlete

510
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Speaker 3: problem is really the problem, not poor athlete, mediogra athlete.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't watch as much as I want to.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Olympic, you know, the the Olympic gold

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Speaker 3: medal win for the hockey team was an all time

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Speaker 3: classic moment. And I'm like, I will nerd out like

515
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Speaker 3: like all of us do. Like the call was amazing,

516
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Speaker 3: call is great, you know, like these are things I

517
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Speaker 3: get weirdly nervous about is like, great moment, you only

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Speaker 3: get one shot at it. I know you have a spotter,

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Speaker 3: but like hockey's fast and like you don't quite know,

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Speaker 3: like is it a goal?

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Speaker 2: Is it not? Guys streaking down the ice who score?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: It was incredible?

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Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, both both Olympic Golden goals

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Speaker 1: were great. I wasn't as big a fan of the

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Speaker 1: call and the woman's one, but the women's one was better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was making that that's an all time

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're both all time, all time goals. But

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Speaker 1: to pull out a one on one move off like

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Speaker 1: that to win the gold medal, that that's a that's

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Speaker 1: an even better moment. They're both InCred I wish it

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Speaker 1: was when I was sitting in front of a TV

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Speaker 1: paying more attention. Okay, I'm fascinated by the Eagles. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you have anything on the Eagles specifically.

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Speaker 1: First of all, since we last tape, Lane Johnson is

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Speaker 1: returning to the Eagles this year. We don't know about

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Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson. There's been reports that he's considering pretty beat

538
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Speaker 1: up retirement. Multiple trade options here, Tanner McKee, aj Brown

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Speaker 1: a ton of free agents, Dallas Goddard, Jalen Phillips, Na,

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Speaker 1: Kobe Dean. I would throw in, and I haven't asked

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Speaker 1: you this off mic, so it's going to be tough

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Speaker 1: for you to answer it on tough. I would throw

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Speaker 1: in Jalen Carter as a really crazy trade candidate. If

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Speaker 1: someone wanted to come, are they willing to, you know,

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Speaker 1: go the extra mile and pay Jalen Carter like a

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Speaker 1: ton of money?

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Speaker 2: Now would be the time.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like the bread crumbs are telling us

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are going to go nuts this offseason.

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Speaker 2: What does nuts mean? Just are you talking to get

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Speaker 2: rid of guys or bringing guys because, like you know,

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Speaker 2: I just can do it.

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Speaker 1: The extremely active in free agency, getting rid of guys,

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Speaker 1: getting guys, trades that they're going to be trying to win,

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Speaker 1: of course, but that the team you see in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six is going to look a lot different than

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Speaker 1: the team you saw in twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably right now.

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Speaker 3: Trading aj things possible, but it doesn't really help them,

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Speaker 3: It really doesn't. It costs a lot, it's hard on

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Speaker 3: the cap, and he's a great receiver, and so like

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Speaker 3: I understand and him, and him and Jalen from what

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Speaker 3: I'm told, are in a much better place now than

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Speaker 3: they were almost at any point last year until week

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Speaker 3: like fourteen, fifteen sixteen. So I don't know that they

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Speaker 3: have to do it now. If you'd ask me in

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Speaker 3: week eight, I would say you have to do it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they have to do it now.

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Speaker 3: And just like money, like you would have to give

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Speaker 3: him away and pay for it. I don't know, because

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Speaker 3: of all the extensions they give him, I don't know

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Speaker 3: that that really makes sense. It can happen now. The

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Speaker 3: Jalen Carter one is an interesting one because he is

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Speaker 3: a great player. But to have great players, you have

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Speaker 3: to pay the money. So what does he make thirty

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Speaker 3: thirty two million a year if you pay him?

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Speaker 2: Who do not pay?

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Speaker 1: So like they do have the fifth year option with him,

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Speaker 1: so that cook can't kick.

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Speaker 3: Every year like when a team they go for it

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Speaker 3: every year. And so when you do that, you pay

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Speaker 3: for everything. And so like Dallas Goddard, like, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen, but generally when a player takes

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Speaker 3: a pay cut one year, the next year they go

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Speaker 3: somewhere else. That's just so I do think they'll be active.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know. I don't know that it'll be

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Speaker 3: as crazy as we all were anticipating.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see. I have some more teams.

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Speaker 1: But now that you mention some of the players there,

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Speaker 1: and Jalen Phillips specifically, I might just rip through some

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Speaker 1: free agents. Jalen Phillips two sacks. Yeah, that was the

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Speaker 1: one response. I I do send my list out to

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Speaker 1: various dignitaries, including yourself. You were the last person to respond,

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Speaker 1: but that you sent a response at all, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: And the only response was, like, Jalen Phillips really two sex?

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Speaker 2: I mean it was like three years. I mean he

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Speaker 2: had two sex. I think he had two sex for

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Speaker 2: the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: He is a really disruptive player who made a splash

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Speaker 3: and then didn't do much after.

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Speaker 2: But like those guys.

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Speaker 1: Get paid five sacks total, you know, but three before

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Speaker 1: a ton of pressure pressure agreed, he's going to get paid.

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Speaker 2: I'm just it's gonna be really interesting because they don't need.

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Speaker 3: To justify anything. Yeah, but you could justify that trade

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Speaker 3: by giving him big money. But like, and you've seen

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Speaker 3: him in your system, you've seen him with fanjo a

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Speaker 3: couple of times. Fango's coming back, which I wasn't definitely

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Speaker 3: wasn't sure about for a while. So paying him makes

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Speaker 3: a lot of sense. I just the production, how do

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Speaker 3: you calculate the values? Gonna be really interesting. He'll get

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Speaker 3: paid though.

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Speaker 1: To me, there he has a lot of similarities to

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Speaker 1: guys that they used to pay back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Now he might cost more because now he's getting through

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Speaker 1: free agency, which is like the first Josh Swet contractor

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Speaker 1: Brandon Graham's contracts all throughout the years, where guys who

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Speaker 1: didn't rack up a ton of sacks but were really complete,

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Speaker 1: versatile players.

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Speaker 3: And seems like a good guy, like they liked him

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Speaker 3: a lot like that, Keeping him makes sense.

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Speaker 1: He had a monster year in Miami. It was just

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Speaker 1: a few years ago before those injuries happened. So he's

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Speaker 1: not He's not just like a one hit wonder you thought.

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Speaker 1: Linderbaum is an interesting situation. And do you have any

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Speaker 1: if you have any possible teams for any of these players,

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Speaker 1: just throw them out there.

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Speaker 2: I do not like to do that.

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Speaker 3: I don't like to play that game because then teams

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Speaker 3: are like, hey, why would you say this? And then

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Speaker 3: agents are like, why would you say this instead of

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Speaker 3: this guy? And I'm just like I don't.

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Speaker 1: When you say things that makes news, it changes, like

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Speaker 1: the the prediction markets.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I care greatly they have the prediction markets. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I should, I don't know, but I just there's plenty

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Speaker 3: of people who will say like, like this team should

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Speaker 3: sign this player, and then it becomes a whole article.

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Speaker 2: And so anyway, Lenden Bomb is interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's literally I do that all the time.

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Speaker 1: I literally I just did one with Bill Barnwell.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. It was a good it was

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Speaker 2: a good podcast.

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Speaker 3: The Linden Bomb is interesting because he almost he not almost,

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Speaker 3: he cannot get tagged. It's a tackle tag, right, and

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Speaker 3: so what is it? What is the what's the tackle tag?

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Speaker 1: It's like twenty eight ar yeah, I mean not going

648
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Speaker 1: to be that, but it's offensive lineman tag, right, But.

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Speaker 3: It's really a guards get tagged only when they're tray smith.

650
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Speaker 3: And that made the tack the guard market go crazy

651
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Speaker 3: and like everyone else was like seriously, but you had

652
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Speaker 3: to do it right. Lender Mam is the top center.

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Speaker 3: He's a really good player who the Ravens should want

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Speaker 3: to keep and I feel like they have to keep

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Speaker 3: but they've every year they've let a couple offensive linemen

656
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: go and figure it out.

657
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: They haven't seen that that interested in keeping him.

658
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: They didn't set they didn't fit your option him, but

659
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: they have tried to negotiate with him.

660
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: Sure, his agent is very difficult to negotiate with. Neil

661
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: Kornwich is the agent, and he his method is basically

662
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: just not responding. We all have someone like that, and yeah,

663
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: it's pretty good. Yeah, I mean right, it's like trying.

664
00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: To get you in on this.

665
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: Think.

666
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: I would think so. They they've done deals. Eric Takosh.

667
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: The way he does things is it's kind of like

668
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: how he rose me. He's very aggressive and he will

669
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: keep at it. So they locked Ronnie Stanley up. I

670
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: think it was like the Saturday before free agency last year,

671
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: Is that right?

672
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: Something like that.

673
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: It might have even been into the negotiating window unless

674
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: it was all tampering, because the reporting afterwards was kind

675
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: of like the Patriots drove up the price, but maybe

676
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: that was behind you.

677
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: You're right that it might have Saturday.

678
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there now it's sort of like I

679
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: do like that's one thing that's changed over the years.

680
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: Maybe you can give us some context.

681
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

682
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: You know, Florio used to always you know, my old boss,

683
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: Mike Floyd used to always be banging on about this year.

684
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: Oh they're tampering in Indianapolis. Oh can you believe it?

685
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: Agents are talking to players and teams are talking to

686
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: no agents. And now it's like no one cares. It's

687
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: just the NFL was like, we don't care, Florio, We're

688
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: just gonna allow this. What's the what's the problem? I mean,

689
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: I meant to be shurely. We have no stand It's

690
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: like driving seventy five and a sixty five.

691
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Speaker 3: Right, I officially have no stance given where I work,

692
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: But I'm sort of not really sure I see where

693
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: the problem is.

694
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: No, I don't think there is a problem.

695
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: The only yeah, the only You have to have a

696
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: start date at some point, so it's always gonna be

697
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: bored before.

698
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: People like, well they should just open up free and

699
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: the temper wind. I'm like, okay, well then they would

700
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: just start talking and they kind of have they kind

701
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: of have whatever done that.

702
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out just some different names, see if

703
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: any strike your fancy. Mike Evans, Rashid Shahid, Tarik Woland,

704
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, like any of those stand out as like

705
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: gonna have particularly good markets. Bad markets stand out to you,

706
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: like could have? Could Evans actually leave for one?

707
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: I mean anything could happen. He should finish his career

708
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: in Tampa. Okay, I mean he should, and I don't

709
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: mean like like he should. It just would be right

710
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: in the world. Now, he might get enough dollars where

711
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: he could go and it be one of those like

712
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: you know Emma Smith and the Cardinals.

713
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: Uniform type deal. But the Bucks take care of their guys.

714
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: I mean they've with the Eagles. If if they traded

715
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: aj Brown, you could see him with any team.

716
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: With the Chiefs literally, any good team, any good team.

717
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: The Chiefs receiving quarrel will be interesting to watch in general.

718
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: Sorry, I asked the questions that it was Evans Shaheed,

719
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: it was Reek, it was Roger Jhemes.

720
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: Shaheed should be a Seattle resign. I mean that makes

721
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: too much sense. Rogers should be a Steelers only for emerging.

722
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: What else? Did you say? They should be a Malik

723
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: Willis team?

724
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: But I don't think they want to be, I said,

725
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean treequill and the cornerback market's going to be interesting.

726
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Have you heard of like who is potentially at the

727
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: top of that that so some options. Jalen Watson from

728
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: the Chiefs has had a good career. Alante Taylor of

729
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: the Saints is an interesting player. Jamelle is out there,

730
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: and Nassan Wright made some all Pro teams this year,

731
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: and then Tariq will and like.

732
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: So tariquill And is sort of interesting to me because

733
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: I thought last year midway through that Seattle was going

734
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: to trade him. I felt like he maybe fell out

735
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: of favor a little bit and like maybe the scheme

736
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: wasn't great, but like he kind of kept at it

737
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 3: and kind of started playing better and then they were like,

738
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: we cannot lose him, and that was interesting to me.

739
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: And I don't know that he's staying, but like a

740
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: lot of good tape at the end of the year

741
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: on him.

742
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: That should I think he should have a good market.

743
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: I think Jayleen Watson has the potential for to get

744
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: a nice deal, and people like, who the heck is

745
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: this guy. Jamel Dean took a huge pay cut with

746
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: the Bucks last year which they wanted to start two

747
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: young guys, and came back with an excellent excellent season,

748
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: like I could see him, maybe he goes back to

749
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: the Bucks.

750
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: Anything's possible, but.

751
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: Could be one of those final pieces to a good

752
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: veteran playoff ready team like he's been through it, he's

753
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: played great last year, like he's a veteran but not

754
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: too too old.

755
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I'm making you work here. The familiarizes me

756
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: with free agency. Well, do you have some surprise? Do

757
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: you have something that you You're like mentioning guys who

758
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: people don't know that might get a ton of don't

759
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: does anyone to pop up?

760
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: I don't work like that. Uh, they don't want I don't.

761
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: They don't all like swim around in my brain if

762
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: you mentioned I can.

763
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am like that too. Where I struggle.

764
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm showing you the list boy Mafi, I think is

765
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot here.

766
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd, I think it'll be good, will be good.

767
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I mean. Isaiah likely is interesting

768
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: too because he doesn't have the production. But it's obviously

769
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 3: he doesn't have the production.

770
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna do what. I want to put

771
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: you on the spot here.

772
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: I want to I have more specific stuff I want

773
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: to get you before you go Max Crosby, Like, do

774
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: you think in the end he gets traded.

775
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, I really don't.

776
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a while because rarely do guys get

777
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: traded when they are coming back from many month injuries.

778
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 3: And so that's why, like I thought, I mean, who knows,

779
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: maybe all my reports are done, but I thought it

780
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: was an import thing to report during the Super Bowl

781
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: because like, I don't think people knew how serious his

782
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: injury was. Now he's doing great, But like you know,

783
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: if you trade for him, and then let's say you

784
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 3: pay him, you know, somewhere around where Mike is getting,

785
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 3: like you want him to be healthy.

786
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: Older player too, Yeah, getting to player money this year,

787
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: and then you'd probably have to rack on some new stuff.

788
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: Right, but like you want him to be healthy.

789
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 3: So that might be like around the draft or maybe

790
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: even before the start of the season. It's gonna be

791
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 3: so like the timing is no. Look, he could get

792
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: traded tomorrow, who knows. But the timing could be interesting

793
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: because let's say it's before the draft. Okay, you got

794
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: Feranana Medoza coming in. You've seen what this coaching staff

795
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 3: and GM can do in free agency. They I'm sure

796
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 3: are gonna target a actually good offensive line. They're gonna

797
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 3: make it quarterback friendly defense. They got some pieces anyway.

798
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: But let's say they improve their team, I wonder, and

799
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: you know they're gonna try to keep them. So at

800
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: that point, does Max goo, I'm on out or does

801
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: he go all right, fine, I'm in one more year. Like,

802
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to what he's going to say.

803
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: After all that, I.

804
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: Thought it was interesting. There was like a list of

805
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: teams This was from the NFLPA who have to spend

806
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: a certain amount of cash this year, you know, to

807
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: hit that three year average. It's too complicated a rule

808
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: that I don't totally understand to even get into here,

809
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: but basically, you have to hit an average of money

810
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: that you've spent over a rolling three year period. And

811
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: the Jets, Saints, Seahawks, Raiders, both LA teams and Titans

812
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: where the teams that have to spend like over a

813
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: certain amount of cash like fifty million dollars more than

814
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: the rest of the teams.

815
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: I mean.

816
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 3: The Rams are interesting because they have some of their

817
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: own free agents who are gonna get huge deals coming up,

818
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: you know, like the Kobe Turners of the world.

819
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: They could spend it on their spend it on their

820
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: own guys. I mean I shared verse.

821
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 3: Yeah first would be another one. I mean they Yeah,

822
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: they have Puka Puka. Interesting offseason for Puca. I mean

823
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: it's just been, yeah, an interest. Why do you say that. No,

824
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: it's just he's been in the news a lot. The

825
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: Internet loves him.

826
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if love is the word that I

827
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: would use. Do you think Dj Moore gets traded? Have

828
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: you heard any and have you heard anything about the

829
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Bears in particular, who have a lot of cap issues,

830
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: not a lot of defensive backs coming back to their team,

831
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: like a kind of a lot going on. I think

832
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: them and the Patriots are very interesting in like, Okay,

833
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: how do you pivot off this surprisingly good year one

834
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: with these new coaches?

835
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I thought, I think last year they

836
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: did an underratedly awesome job, didn't like what was out

837
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: there in the offensive line market and said, you know,

838
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: we're just gonna trade for two guys. And I was

839
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, Ryan Pols does not get universally loved.

840
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: I thought he crushed it last offseason and set themselves

841
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: up for big success. They'll have to make some decisions,

842
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: DJ Moore. I mean that one would make sense, but

843
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: like could also make it work money wise, you know,

844
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if you say to me, like,

845
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: well the Bears need to do this, Like what do

846
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: they need to do? I think they have another good

847
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 3: draft year and and like what do they need?

848
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: Uh? Pass rushers and defensive backs because half of them

849
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: are one agents. One of the top defensive backers their

850
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: own free agent. Yeah, Kevin Kevin Byard is also actually

851
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: to a free agent. I think about Chauncey Gardner Johnson

852
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: who's lower on the list, but I.

853
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: Don't have him buyer and it was like a minimum

854
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: guy a couple of years ago. He's and he's like

855
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: the best dude too.

856
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: Quon Brisker is a free agent.

857
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: They have they have a lot of work, and they're

858
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: like way over the cap right now.

859
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: See I'm giving you good information? Are you?

860
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: Though? You could go to overthcap dot com and find

861
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: out about that. How about the Bills and the Chiefs?

862
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: Do you have any like over arching thoughts of like

863
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: the two most consistent teams in the AFC over the

864
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: last handful of years and and how they are going

865
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: to attack this offseason? You mentioned earlier the Chiefs and

866
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 1: the receiver group.

867
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think you know they I was

868
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: not surprised that they shuffle their offensive coaching staff.

869
00:38:59,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: I was.

870
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised they brought Eric b Enemy back. You know,

871
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: there was certainly some frustration last year with the receivers.

872
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 3: They fired the receivers coach. That's generally shows that Rashi

873
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: Rice has also been in the new sum on the

874
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Speaker 3: football field. Is a very very good player, but like

875
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: inconsistency around like Hollywood Brown.

876
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Speaker 2: Sometimes, yes something you free agent Taekwon Thornton.

877
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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have a nice market, but like

878
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: they have a chance to kind of rebuild that with

879
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: some really good mid level guys.

880
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Speaker 1: Kelsey, you know what happens there. Do you think Kelsey

881
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Speaker 1: and Rice are on the team.

882
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: Uh?

883
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 3: My guess is probably, But I don't know why Rice

884
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: wouldn't be. I mean, if you say, like, are they

885
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: gonna trade him Mike, I don't know that that would happen.

886
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 3: And Kelsey, you know, he's been seemingly pretty positive about

887
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 3: the higher of Eric the Enemy, making me think he's

888
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: coming back. But you like to work out a deal too,

889
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 3: and they that's cat problems.

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Speaker 1: He said, you weren't surprised that they made changes. Should

891
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: that worry Giants fans that they now have the offensive

892
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: course said.

893
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 3: No, no, no, the running back and receiver coach, position coaches.

894
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: I think Matt Naggy intentionally put himself where he is.

895
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Speaker 3: I think he was like he was with Andy Reid.

896
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: I think they were really good until last year when

897
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: they were not as good, and there was a lot

898
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: of reasons they could be not as good. Offensive line

899
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Speaker 3: that's a missue, and there's a lot of things, injuries,

900
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 3: a lot of things. I think Matt and Noggy wanted

901
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: to be a play caller and was like, I'm going

902
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 3: to take a risk, put myself out there and be

903
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: a play caller and see if I could be a

904
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Speaker 3: head coach.

905
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Speaker 2: And that's what happened, all right, it worked out. Yeah.

906
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Speaker 1: A couple more for you. Is Kristin Wilkins, the name

907
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: you've heard it all. He kind of was brought up

908
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: on our show and I was like, oh, yeah, Kristin Wilkins,

909
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: who was like top five on this list a couple

910
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: of years ago. I didn't know whether to put him

911
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: in the top one on one or not. Is he

912
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Speaker 1: how like, have you heard any team going to sign

913
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Speaker 1: Kristin Wilkins.

914
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

915
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: I would need to look back at his contract situation

916
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: and see he's free and clear at this point, are

917
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Speaker 3: they not? The Raiders got out of the guaranteed money business.

918
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Speaker 1: They're paying dead money to him. Sometimes I don't know

919
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: if the Raiders got out of the to You usually

920
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: are the one giving me information, but sometimes I'll send

921
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: it in and be like, hey, you should check one

922
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: with Christian Wilkins. Thing. Now I'm blowing it because it's

923
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna go on the podcast. But you know, I was like,

924
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: just dude, no, I'll just check out on Christian Wilkins.

925
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Speaker 1: If you send a tweet out about Christian Wilkins, I

926
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Speaker 1: actually think it'll be a.

927
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Speaker 2: Medium hit tweet. You know. I think you're probably if

928
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: he signs media now, I mean.

929
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Speaker 1: He was I don't even mean signs, but just be like, hey,

930
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's ready to go.

931
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Speaker 2: There's some interest, but he is.

932
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Speaker 3: I mean at the time, remember it was a fight

933
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: over surgery because he didn't want to have surgery and

934
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Speaker 3: they wanted him to.

935
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Speaker 2: And then also they there was also a lot of stuff.

936
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Speaker 1: There was a report that Yeah, there was a lot

937
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: of teammates uncomfortable with him. I don't know if any

938
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: of that was true. We have it this year, that

939
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: was season, that was last season. It seems like a

940
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Speaker 1: thousand years it does.

941
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Speaker 2: You know, what else?

942
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: Does the Starbucks incident that you had back at the

943
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: combine a year. I'm going there right after this. Are

944
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: you worried or I wasn't worried then? Why would I

945
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: be worried now? I thought it was like a little

946
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: much the NFL network, with you know, so much going

947
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: on at the company and everything, decided to provide like

948
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: a four man security detail everywhere you go, just afraid

949
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: of Sultz. You know, big, big Jordan Schultz coming around

950
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: the corner. He is tall to me, he is tall

951
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: in general. That was still the.

952
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Speaker 3: Weirdest thing to It wasn't the weirdest thing to ever happened,

953
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: but it was the weirdest thing that happened to me lately.

954
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: That was still like people laugh at my reaction because

955
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: I literally just stood there like this, like what on

956
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: earth is happening?

957
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Because that's what I felt.

958
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: Like, you know, as someone who has annoyed plenty of people.

959
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about myself. I'm talking about you too.

960
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I and not the biggest guy I have been

961
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: in this situation, including even at work with an old uh.

962
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: I'll say, rival of yours happened once, and it is

963
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: a tough situation because you're not gonna what are you

964
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: gonna do. You're just gonna like try to talk talk

965
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: it out. In this case, you were very surprised by it,

966
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: but like, it's not you. I knew.

967
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: I know right away. It's not gonna help me out

968
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Speaker 2: to like the man here.

969
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not I mean, I haven't fought in

970
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: a very long time, and it's certainly not gonna be

971
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Speaker 3: my world.

972
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Speaker 2: I was just mostly confused.

973
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Speaker 3: I kept being like, uber stock, is that something that's

974
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: in the realm of possibility that someone offers players uber

975
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: stock for scoops?

976
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Speaker 2: In hindsight, it's a bizarre story. Yeah.

977
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Speaker 1: For some background, Jordan Schultz, who who also breaks news

978
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: does NFL News, confronted you with an accusation that you

979
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: were telling people that he was trading uber stocks for

980
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: for information, which is which is a wild claim to

981
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Speaker 1: just to just come out of nowhere. But I was

982
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Speaker 1: trying to make the point though that you're gonna be

983
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: a free agent coming up soon, and just hear me

984
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: out you you did a podcast with Andrew Machand and

985
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: he brought up how your contracts coming up uh soon,

986
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: and you were saying you're excited that. You know, with

987
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: this new ESPN world, maybe you and Schefter can be

988
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: like you know, the the Avengers coming together. We have me,

989
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: Mike Tom right everyone. But I mean, I'm just putting

990
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: out there. We have our iHeart executive here, Jason English.

991
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: They've been great partners for NFL Daily as you hit

992
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: free agency. What about NFL Daily insider Ian Rappaport. You know,

993
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: we could get in this mix. I don't know financially,

994
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what are we offering here? Well, what

995
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: are we talking about that that's an off camera that's

996
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: but they've been great.

997
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: You know, used to have a part podcast back in

998
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: the day.

999
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: Right, we can give you you could yep, maybe you

1000
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: could have your own pocket you could take maybe I

1001
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: could take Greg now. But you could have a regular

1002
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: part of the you know, you could be a regular

1003
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Speaker 1: part of the Just the thought.

1004
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Speaker 3: I I have no idea what's come. I am very

1005
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 3: excited about it, though. If the ESPN thing works out.

1006
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: I think the possibilities are really really good. From what

1007
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: it sounds like, everyone should be pretty optimistic.

1008
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: That that's a good way to look at things and

1009
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: a good way I think for people just also reality

1010
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: to look forward. Like sometimes you kill yourself worrying about

1011
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: things that you're not going to change the outcome of

1012
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: until they happen.

1013
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: So just be optimistic.

1014
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: I was optimistic about how long we would get ian

1015
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Speaker 1: and look it happened.

1016
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Speaker 2: We did forty.

1017
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Speaker 1: Strong minutes. You had great answers. We will be here

1018
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: all week. There were some other minor news out there,

1019
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: and we'll hit all that on when Tuesday's show with

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Speaker 1: Jordan rod Rieg. We also are planning to have a

1021
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: couple of guests. Some gms are gonna sit down with us,

1022
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Speaker 1: and so we'll go over all the news that is

1023
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Speaker 1: coming out of Indianapolis for ian Rapport. I'm Greg Rosenthal,

1024
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: and we will be better back from Indianapolis on Tuesday