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Speaker 1: The Nick Aglizer Podcast.

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Speaker 2: O Nick Glaser, here's Nikki.

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Speaker 3: Hello, it's me Nikki. Welcome to the show. It's Nick

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Speaker 3: Glaser Podcast. I'm doing pretty good. It's Thursday when you're

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Speaker 3: listening to this. If you downloaded it right away, it's

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Speaker 3: actually Tuesday in our world. Just want to be totally

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Speaker 3: honest with ye. I can't lie. I can't be like,

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Speaker 3: because what IF's only a mass shooting happens. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like eighteen mass shootings will happen between now and Thursday, regardless,

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Speaker 3: But what if like a big one? You know? I

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Speaker 3: saw some meme that said, like, I went to a

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Speaker 3: support group for people bereaved parents and there was a

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Speaker 3: woman that said, I lost my son five school shootings

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Speaker 3: ago and it was Friday, And it was like, why

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Speaker 3: would she say it like that? I just don't believe

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Speaker 3: that she said it, Like, you know what I mean

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Speaker 3: when people try to be super and you go, I

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Speaker 3: don't know that this brief parent who lost our kid

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Speaker 3: two days ago is going to make some like political

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Speaker 3: statement with her grief, right something. Yeah. Yeah, I always

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Speaker 3: love to meme when I'm crying, when I'm thinking that's

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Speaker 3: the stage of grief.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's the seventh stage. How many stages are the

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Speaker 2: stages of grief?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Anya's here, Brian is here, no one's in studio

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Speaker 3: with me, no one's in Arizona. I just want to

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Speaker 3: set the stage for y'all. Yeah. The stages of grief

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Speaker 3: are denial, anger, yep, depression.

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Speaker 4: Depression, uh, memes.

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Speaker 3: Elevation, mushroom. No, that's rice. No, it's I was thinking

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Speaker 3: of where you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rice, is it like the brad Dia been.

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Speaker 3: That's the rice thing. Is what you do if you

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Speaker 3: like injure your leg. It's like rest, compression and elevation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we could be doctors, you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yea, I mean what don't we know?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: What's the final stage? Is acceptance? Yes? And what are

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Speaker 3: the other ones? Noah, it says bargaining.

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Speaker 4: Never heard, that's my favorite one. Does it have to

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Speaker 4: be this way? Maybe I can do something to fix it?

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Speaker 4: And then finally they always say no, They never say.

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Speaker 3: The other night, Anya and I were texting about something

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Speaker 3: that we were either she was upset about or I

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Speaker 3: was upset about, and I said, I just said, you

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Speaker 3: just got to accept something, and she was like, acceptance

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Speaker 3: is the answer to all of your problems, and that

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Speaker 3: really struck with me. It's like it really is the

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Speaker 3: answer to all of it.

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Speaker 2: And then I said it in the What about Bob

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Speaker 2: Voyce have you guys seen?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know that. I mean, yes, I do

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Speaker 3: remember that movie, but I remember him just like tied

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Speaker 3: to a mass of a ship. I remember like certain

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Speaker 3: things about movies.

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Speaker 2: Dreyfus, Bill Murray. Yes, he gives him my prescription because

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Speaker 2: he's so fed up with him at this point, he

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Speaker 2: keeps stalking the family and then he's like here and

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Speaker 2: he writes a prescription says take a vacation from your problems.

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Speaker 2: Then Bil Murray goes take a vacation.

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Speaker 3: And then heads vacations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's already there at like Winnipesake. I don't

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Speaker 2: remember a lot of my life or who I was

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Speaker 2: friends with in high school, but I remember weird snippets

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Speaker 2: of What About.

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Speaker 3: You probably watched that movie a lot though. What about Anya?

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Speaker 4: What is she going to this time?

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Speaker 3: A break up for two? Yeah? Yeah, Acceptance is it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, uh, you just want to get

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Speaker 3: to that stage of grief. Though I don't know that

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Speaker 3: I've I've grieved that much in my life. I think

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Speaker 3: I just like skip to like skip it all. I

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Speaker 4: Oh, I grieve every day. I agree. I haven't happened yet.

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Speaker 4: I grieve. I agreeve for the death of the future,

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Speaker 4: deaths of all things that I love. And I feel

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Speaker 4: I'm just sad and anxious and I wonder why, Yes,

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Speaker 4: at some point, and I've never learned to accept anything.

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Speaker 4: I will fight against the reality of the universe until

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Speaker 4: my dying breath. I will never accept it.

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Speaker 3: Are you always disappointed in yourself? Like that's how that's

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Speaker 3: for me? Acceptance is about more myself than others, or

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Speaker 3: like the idea of death, like I kind of every

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Speaker 3: or so often I turned to Chris on the couch

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Speaker 3: and I just go, God, we have to fucking die someday.

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Speaker 3: Does that suck? Like wait a second, we really like

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Speaker 3: it just seems like, oh, it's just a lot of

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Speaker 3: work to even like heat him dying is going to

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Speaker 3: be a lot of work for me. I have to

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Speaker 3: like go find an outfit of all black that like

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Speaker 3: shows that I'm respectful, but that I'm gonna like, maybe

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Speaker 3: I'll meet someone there.

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Speaker 2: You know how much he's putting you out by potentially dying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he he promised me he was gonna thirty three.

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Speaker 3: in thirty three thirty seven, and I see him at two. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was thirty two when I met him, and I said,

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Speaker 4: But now, that is the worst part about death, is

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Speaker 4: how inconvenient it is for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it really is. That's what keeps me

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Speaker 3: from killing myself quite often. I mean, it's one of

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Speaker 3: my jokes is that anytime I've even really thought about

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Speaker 3: taking that step off the building or whatever, it is

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Speaker 3: like the next step that would lead to the step

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Speaker 3: to I just go, I can't do this to people,

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Speaker 3: really don't want my mom to have to clean my room.

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Speaker 3: She did that for thirty years of my life. I

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Speaker 3: mean she my mom is cleaned my room my whole life,

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Speaker 3: and I just don't she's already grieving. Don't put her

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Speaker 3: through that. And there's no way I'm gonna do it beforehand.

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Speaker 3: So I keep living.

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Speaker 4: You have anything hidden that you wouldn't want discovered.

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Speaker 3: I am kind of an open book. Unfortunately I don't

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Speaker 3: know secrets. My journal is literally an open book that

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Speaker 2: The Vegas Statement of twenty twenty three. I am what

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Speaker 2: kind of an open book I am?

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Speaker 3: And some you should have some secret.

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Speaker 4: You got to have a secret. You should, okay, get one,

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Speaker 4: because then when your mom's planning your room and be like,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, Nikki was a scuba diver.

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Speaker 3: Instructor, like a separate life, like a thing, a skill.

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Speaker 3: I have no if I have any skill, I'm letting

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Speaker 3: people know. That's how I have value, is that I

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Speaker 3: have things that I can do that other people can't,

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Speaker 3: and that's how I esteem myself. But okay, so you

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Speaker 3: get sad about I get sad about people like having

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Speaker 3: to accept like, well, this is as far as I'm

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Speaker 3: Like Chris and I were recently talking about this idea

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Speaker 3: much Taylor Swift, Like as much as I love Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 3: five hundred pages, I'm just like, I can't imagine. I

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Speaker 3: But I do, like, I want to be in that

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Speaker 3: I was telling Chris this that you know, there's like

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Speaker 3: let go of that. He lower there was a lowered

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Speaker 4: But I said that that analogy.

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Speaker 3: That's analogic analogy to fertility. I will never dunk. If

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Speaker 4: No can't say that.

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Speaker 3: a daughter's not duncan and America runs on duncan. Well,

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Speaker 3: it's it was a funny. It was funny to me

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Speaker 3: it's to you, Brian, is was dunking a thing that

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Speaker 4: No, But I think you know you have a lesson

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Speaker 4: just immediately give it up for adoption. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about fertility. I want to still be fertile.

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Speaker 3: I don't want a baby, though, and that will be

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Speaker 3: Even though I don't want to do it, I still

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Speaker 3: Because you'll never be able to can you dunk?

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Speaker 4: No? No, I can't dunk. I'll never be able to dunk.

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Speaker 3: Is there something you've let go of of? Like I

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Speaker 3: do this. No, I want to be I want to

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Speaker 4: To do it. I haven't experienced that yet. I think

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Speaker 4: for two reasons. One is I just never I never

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Speaker 4: two is I have very low expectations. So it's a

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Speaker 4: lot like Tailor Swift where she's on stage and people

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Speaker 4: thank you. I feel like that sometimes where it's like

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Speaker 4: I can't even believe I can. Like I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: even believe I can play a scale, And so I feel.

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Speaker 3: Good about it yourself, Yes, because you're lowering the hoop.

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Speaker 4: I lowered the hoop. I lower the hoop on all things.

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Speaker 3: Well, Brian. One of the most endearing stories of Brian

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Speaker 3: to ever be told was his quest to learn how

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Speaker 3: to dance. Have we talked about this on the podcast

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Speaker 3: No No, Oh my God. Brian Franngie realized at the

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Speaker 3: age of I'm going to say twenty seven, how old

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Speaker 3: And why did you want to learn how to dance?

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Speaker 3: You didn't know how to dance at a party, or

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. And it makes sense because we all

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Speaker 1: Is not for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And he said, what do you what are you

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Speaker 3: Because Tim walked home one morning and walked in one

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Speaker 3: Looks like I really want to see. So so, how

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Speaker 4: We became well, we became friends and I would go

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Speaker 3: Or anything at your wedding. Yeah, are you guys going

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Speaker 4: Probably my my knees, so they're supposed to be bent

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Speaker 4: He taught me different moves I can do. I said,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he taught me what to do with my hands

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Speaker 3: That's enough. Yeah, okay, so you do you grab your crotch.

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Speaker 2: That's a big thing you should be doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, spin around in a circle and left to right

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe we'll get a little demo from you at

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Speaker 3: It's so novice. But you didn't have a problem with that.

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Speaker 3: I want to I want to look into this a

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: When you first met.

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Speaker 4: Were you?

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Speaker 3: And because I remember, I can only think about myself

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, Darien's brother's name was Steven math teacher Headings.

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Speaker 3: And he's a mechanic, so what uh, it's so embarrassing

439
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 3: the first time you have to Like That's why I

440
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 3: don't like taking guitar lessons because I know the person

441
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 3: teaching me is so advanced that they're going to be

442
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 3: like disgusted by what I do. Like and and of

443
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 3: course I don't feel this way when someone asked me

444
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: to help them write a joke or something and they're

445
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 3: so bad at it. I'm not like you should kill yourself,

446
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: you know, like, but I feel that way when people

447
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 3: witness I mean, honestly, the honest truth is, yeah, maybe

448
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 3: I do think that sometimes, like how could you be

449
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 3: so bad at this? And I'm so mean about people

450
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: being bad at something I'm good at that I think

451
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: everyone's going to be mean to me about something that

452
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm bad at and they are. I mean, is there's

453
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 3: some Sachenko was devastated when he saw my moves.

454
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 4: Sometimes when you if you see a comedian and you know,

455
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 4: I'm not like some great comedian or anything, but sometimes

456
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 4: you see a comedian and you're like, that person should

457
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 4: definitely quit yeah, don't you ever get that?

458
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, One time I was doing a Sarah Schaeffer

459
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 3: and I we had our MTV show and we were

460
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: doing some kind of like Google chat live where you know,

461
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: our fans could ask us questions, and they were asking

462
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 3: for advice about stand up and this one person was

463
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: struggling with it and like how do you make it?

464
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 3: And I was just like, she gave all this great

465
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: advice which I would normally give as well. And then

466
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: I said, and just also know that, like, if that

467
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 3: all doesn't work out and it's not happening for you,

468
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 3: feel free to like quit, like you don't like no.

469
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 4: One's telling you you have to do this.

470
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: Honestly, when I have to say when people ask like

471
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: how did you make it? Or like what do you

472
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: do to be a comedian? I've said this before, but

473
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: it bears repeating, I think you don't have what it takes,

474
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 3: because I think this is probably the same for music.

475
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: Anya You just do it. You like the process of it,

476
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: like we're talking about so much that it doesn't matter

477
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 3: the practice and all the hard work don't feel like work.

478
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: They don't feel like things you need to like figure out.

479
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: They're just the natural progression of you exploring this thing

480
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: you love and that you enjoy. So when people are like,

481
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 3: what what do I do? How do I get on stage?

482
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: I'm just like you. I never once was like what

483
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: do I do? I'm just like I just all I

484
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: have to do is just do it a bunch. And

485
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 3: it wasn't hard to do it a bunch because I

486
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: fucking loved it.

487
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: And I wish at you that you pursue that you

488
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: just felt like swimming upstream and like you quit. Yes,

489
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: like what.

490
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: Guitar in the past, guitar, saxophone.

491
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 2: See this saxophone.

492
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 3: I was great. When everyone has to like play an instrument,

493
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 3: I had no clue how it worked. I had no cool.

494
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: It was not. I just faked it every day. And

495
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 3: I cried so much because my dad really wanted me

496
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: to be musical, and I he always kind of like

497
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 3: he always talks about this note I wrote him because

498
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: I remember writing it and because I couldn't tell it

499
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: to his face that I was going to quit an instrument.

500
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 3: But I wrote him a note and I was like, Dad,

501
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm so so sorry because I know all the money

502
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 3: you spent at mel Bay on this saxophone and I

503
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: just hate it and I don't want to do it,

504
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 3: and I'm quitting and you can't talk me out of it.

505
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: And I wrote this whole letter. I wish he would

506
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: have kept it because I remember it being very sweet

507
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: and him being like, Nick, I don't care, and I

508
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: was like, I promise I'll play another instrument. This is

509
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: just isn't the one. It's the same way I still

510
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: talk when I like write emails to people like I

511
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: can't do your podcast right now, but down the road,

512
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: I promp, like I always like give I need to

513
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: down the road, give you something of myself that I

514
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: can't even give you down the road because it's not

515
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: enough for me to just have a clear boundary of

516
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: like this is where the this is where it ends.

517
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: Pop us. I'm not gonna be in any like brass

518
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: bands anytime soon. He didn't care at all. I did

519
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 3: the same thing when I quit guitar. I had to

520
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: like have like a like cause he spent some I

521
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 3: always felt bad about the money they spent on lessons

522
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: and I was a failure. But you know, even writing

523
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 3: songs I feel that way about it's just so difficult

524
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: for me, and it's not I don't enjoy the process.

525
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 3: I'm not like, I don't even care that that song's bad.

526
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: It's like that song's bad. Taylor Swiss would never write

527
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: a bad song. Your trash. Stop doing this, You're a joke.

528
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: And it's like none of it's fun. And I'm waiting

529
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: for a way to figure out how to do it

530
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: because it's something I really want to do. I'm waiting

531
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: to find a way to enjoy the process. I'm trying

532
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: different ways of doing it so that I can tap

533
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 3: into that. But you know what I'm not doing is

534
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 3: asking musicians over and over like secrets for how they

535
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 3: like did a bee line to success? Like I'm realizing

536
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: that it's going to be a hard road to hoe.

537
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just next time someone gave.

538
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 3: Me a record deal right now because they heard me

539
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: sing on that's my Jam last night on NBC at

540
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: ten ninth Central and That's my Jam but hosted by

541
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: Jimmy Fallon. I would. I was even thinking today, like

542
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: my little dream in my head is that someone goes, Wow,

543
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 3: she's really great. I'm gonna give her a record deal.

544
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: She already has a name. I would turn it down

545
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 3: because I don't want a fast track I want to

546
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: grind it out and be good and accomplished through my

547
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: own like I just want to do. I want to

548
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: I want to fail a lot, and which is ironic

549
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 3: because I just said when I fail, I compare myself

550
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: to Taylor Swift and I quit. So I don't know

551
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: what the solution is.

552
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: But you did it with stand up. I mean you

553
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 4: did when you first start out. You're failing.

554
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: Ever, it felt bad when I failed because I knew

555
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: I was really good at it. I knew I was

556
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: naturally better at this than most people. I could kind

557
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: of take a census of the room and go, I

558
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: have a knack for this more than anyone who's at

559
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: a beginner love. I just do. And you know, that's

560
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: just that's with everything's people have natural inclinations to things.

561
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: But do you ever watch a child like Savant play

562
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: piano on Instagram or Reddit and you just go, what

563
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: is the point of me doing any Like? Why even

564
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 3: show for a lesson today?

565
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 4: What I think I'll.

566
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: Just throw this keyboard at the possum cage in the

567
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: backyard and call it a day, Like I just I

568
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: think it all the time when I see these little

569
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: virtuoso kids video of these North Korean kids just like zombies,

570
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: Like these four year olds playing like perfect guitar, like

571
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: just shredding on guitar all in like you know, in

572
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: sync with each other, and they're like smiling like robots.

573
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 3: And I was just so jealous of these North Korean

574
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: children of that there's a fucking gun, there's a fucking

575
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: you know, laser dot on their head. If they screw

576
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: up one note, their lives, you know, that can't be

577
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: good over there. But I was still like, what's the

578
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: point of you doing this? But I guess the point

579
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: is is that I could have some emotion in my

580
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: shitty guitar playing that they are devoid of because they

581
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: aren't allowed to have any lives. So it just sounds like,

582
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: you know, just a AI machine playing.

583
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 5: And they don't cross too like you never hear stories

584
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 5: of them growing up to be successful in the entertainment industry.

585
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. It's really cool that you that I

586
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: would sweep us.

587
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: You had the awareness to be able to assess yourself,

588
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: which is very rare and I think very rare in

589
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: life that you have a clear enough perspective about yourself

590
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: to be able to give yourself objective, real feedback, like

591
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: you saying, I know I'm good at this and I

592
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: have a knack for this. Like most of the time,

593
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: we're way too hard on ourselves and we can't properly

594
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: assess ourselves. So the fact that you had that is

595
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: really cool. And I always tell people when they ask

596
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: me advice, go where things are flowing, you know, like

597
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: you're saying, you're getting the laughs, it's easy.

598
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 3: It's co to my vagina. Four Days of the Bottle.

599
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I took you more seriously there because

600
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: you were waving a panorama when you're talking, you're pontificating

601
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: with the sharpie, and I was like, wow, she's making

602
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: one of go.

603
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: To where it's easy, go to where it's But I

604
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: like things that are hard.

605
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: Well it can't be hard, but it's like you said,

606
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: enjoy the hard. Yeah, And like I remember stressing out

607
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: so hard. At one point in my life, I had

608
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: been a DJ on the radio for nearly ten years

609
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: and I was just hating it toward the end, just

610
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: absolutely hating it. And I had a job that so

611
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: many people would have killed for in San Diego Midday

612
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: Did you hate it?

613
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: I was Diego Drive Time DJ.

614
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: I was dying to be a singer songwriter. I had

615
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: all these songs I'd written, I had made a record

616
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: by myself. I was dying to be on tour and

617
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: playing my music. And I just felt like it was

618
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: soul crushing every day. And this used to be my

619
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: dream being on the radio, you know. I grew up

620
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: listening to Lord Stern and I finally got in there,

621
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: and I'm like mid Days in San Diego Market fourteen

622
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: or whatever. It was great job, like benefits everything. And

623
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm just playing smashing Pumpkins and wanting to kill myself

624
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: every day. And I mean not I'm exaggerating, but I

625
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 2: was not happy. And and I remember getting my first

626
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: song miss halfway in Gray's Anatomy, and it was like,

627
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: whoa I got in Gray's Anatomy. It's in the season.

628
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: It's like finishing the show. I got a big check.

629
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. And I was just like, how

630
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: big was that check?

631
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: What are we talking?

632
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: Two thousand dollars? This doesn't happen anymore.

633
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: But you can almost go to a one Taylor Swift

634
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: concert with that.

635
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: This doesn't it well? That for me was like probably,

636
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't know a third of my income.

637
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: No, so I mean, that's an insane amount's car.

638
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: And I had a.

639
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: Car assume it it was like had been hit in

640
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: the middle of the night and hit and run. But

641
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: I could still barely drive it. And so I bought

642
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: a used car with that check, I remember, and it

643
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: completely changed my life. And then I started getting more

644
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: and more sinks, like they would put another song in

645
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: Grayson out of me.

646
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: And then I was like, that's what it's called, is

647
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: a sink?

648
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I was confused, but well.

649
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: She also didn't own a sink, and so she would

650
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: go to lows. She would, Yeah, I don't know, they

651
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: let it sink.

652
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: Synchoranize the music's to the picture. I think that's where

653
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: I come. I don't know, but yeah, that's when I

654
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: started going, maybe the universe is kind of trying to

655
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: show me there's like a flow happening here. I'm getting

656
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: paid for this.

657
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: That's why it's a sink.

658
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: Yes, And then I got a record just was easy.

659
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: It was easy and something was happening, you know, like

660
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: I could feel the momentum. Yeah, and my.

661
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: Universe was telling you it was this. You were on

662
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: the right track.

663
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: And a friend of mine who I loved and trusted

664
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: was hang like my friend oh who passed away a

665
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: few months ago. He was always on my ass like

666
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: you're such a chicken shit, just quit now. You should

667
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: at the radio now and go on tour. And I'm like, dude,

668
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: I love you and your faith in me. I got nothing.

669
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: I got a record on a bookshelf that nobody bought,

670
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: and I'm playing a coffee shop twice a week, like

671
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: I have no following, I have no money saved, and

672
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: you know, but he was like, just do it quit now.

673
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna quit when there's a lily pad

674
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: I can jump onto. And then I got the lily

675
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: pad and I was like, okay, now I can quit

676
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: my job. And that's just how I think this takes.

677
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: That.

678
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: It takes someone, take someone believing in you for sure.

679
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: And that's why it's like so important to give compliments

680
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: very freely when you notice people are talented. And that's

681
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: what sucks about so many people are so jealous of

682
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: people's talent that they withhold compliments. Not no like so

683
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: many people I bet have been you know, just sidelined

684
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: from like where just you know, what's the word for it.

685
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: When you're driving and then you fear off the road

686
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: whatever that is you you get discourage because no one

687
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: encourages you, and most of the time it's out of jealousy.

688
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: So I mean, yeah, you can probably really suck sometimes

689
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: and no one's saying anything, and you should maybe listen

690
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: to the silence.

691
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you just need a Korean military person

692
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: with a sniper rifle telling you to continue.

693
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: You need someone you know, promising you a bag of

694
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: rice if that your family will be able to survive

695
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: the winter. There, I think about you execute this perfect solo.

696
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: Those North Korean children playing guitar actually is not so

697
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: bad because I think, like there could be at least

698
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: they're playing guitar. There could be people who are like

699
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: you have to be you know, uh do you have

700
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 4: to dig ditches And they're still holding the gun.

701
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: To your your tiny little hands were playing regular size guitars.

702
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: By the way, and I'm looking at my niece Poppy,

703
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: who is just all over the place naked constantly, can't

704
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: really you can't even hold on to her for two

705
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: seconds to focus. And the idea that she could like

706
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: just way like InSync to other four like how they do.

707
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: That is really scary to me how they can control

708
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: kids that much, like what the abuses those kids must face,

709
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: because it's just impossible to imagine a child behaving that

710
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: way with six other children perfectly and doing things on

711
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: guitar that you can, in your wildest dreams, could not do.

712
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 3: And therefore it was just it was so so upsetting

713
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 3: in so many ways, but mostly because of my ego.

714
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that you need to I think that, yeah,

715
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: you need to encourage people to when they are good

716
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: at something, especially, but you should also look for when.

717
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: But what about when you love something so much and

718
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: you suck at it, and but you love it it's flowing,

719
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: but money is not flowing or opportunities aren't flowing, but

720
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: it's still your dream.

721
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: Enjoy it?

722
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 3: Do you keep doing it? Yeah? But what if part

723
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 3: of it is performing like these are when people have

724
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 3: been auditioned for American Idol and they're like so off key, terrible,

725
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: and you go, who could have ever convinced this person

726
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: that they were good?

727
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: Like?

728
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 5: Who lied?

729
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 4: Who lied to them and told them that they could

730
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 4: do this and put them this embarrassing situation?

731
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: There should be an offshoot, so called who did this

732
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: to you? And we find who encouraged these people and

733
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 3: like where what kind of families they come from that

734
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: make them think that this is okay. I honestly believe

735
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: like there's something for everyone in this world, and what

736
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: we find to be like, really, that's not really talent.

737
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: There's going to be one person at the end of

738
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: the world who is going to love it. Who likes

739
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: someone singing totally off key?

740
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, there's a Greek restaurant on the Upper West

741
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: Side that's going to hire you to play an hour's

742
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: worth of why Greek?

743
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: That's so I don't know, Okay, I don't even know.

744
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: I've played a Greek restaurant before and I was not great. No,

745
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: I think Noah's right. You can probably find a place.

746
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: But if you can't find a place after months of searching,

747
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: just enjoy it in your own home. Why do you

748
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: have to earn a living at this because you really

749
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: Or go on the street or on YouTube.

750
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: YouTube, yes, and start a YouTube channels.

751
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 4: There's many of talentless hacks who have succeeded on TikTok

752
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 4: and YouTube and they don't Yes, there shit, Yeah.

753
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: There's so much garbage on YouTube. And you could probably

754
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: be way more successful than any of us.

755
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: At a craft fair this weekend in Nashville, my mom

756
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: and I saw that and the amount of crap that

757
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: these people devote their lives to making it was. It

758
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: really depressed me because it just maybe it didn't depress me.

759
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: Maybe it was sweet. Maybe there's something sweet about it

760
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: that this man makes brooms out of like old guitar

761
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 3: necks or whatever, like or this one guy was making

762
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: like an ant eater out of an old Harley Davidson

763
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: body plus a gas tank and then like a gas

764
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: nozzle for its Like shit that you wouldn't It's just

765
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: the ugliest stuff you've ever seen. And it's and people

766
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: care so much and they put up a booth and

767
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: they get a card, and they get you know, a sign,

768
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: and they hire someone to make a graphic for them

769
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: for their It's so crazy to me and to me,

770
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: I just guess it's something to keep them busy so

771
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: that their husband doesn't have to talk to them.

772
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing how much bad art there is. My

773
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 2: dad's always sending me emails with the subject adding incredible

774
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: and then I open it.

775
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: It's like always like the most bizarre.

776
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: He likes art that's like really really realistic, Like okay, it's.

777
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: It looks like a photograph.

778
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, why do you like this? Or

779
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: he's into like weird cats dressed up as Harlequin's. I'm like,

780
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: you like this?

781
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: Like that's where I go there is something for everyone

782
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: where the Noah kind of like art, like just graphic art,

783
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: visual art. There is something for everyone because you see

784
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: you see clothing people make, and you go, who would

785
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: ever want to wear this bedazzled vest that says like

786
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: that has like a skull smoking a cigar on the

787
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 3: back of it, like just ugly shit, And there's someone

788
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: out there that will like it, And it's it's so

789
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: funny to me and why you wouldn't want to make

790
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: something that But maybe the person making it likes it.

791
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: I guess I can't judge. There is something for this.

792
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: Theory is if you like it, if you love it,

793
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: then someone else, well I was someone else might love it.

794
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: Then because you're one person and you love it, chances

795
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 4: are the billions of people in the world, there's gonna

796
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: be one other person who loves the thing too that

797
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 4: you're making. Yeah, not that it's worth a career, and

798
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 4: I don't think it's worth You know, if you love it,

799
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: then that's fine, but I don't think you know, you

800
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: should risk your family's dinner on it.

801
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: I guess I just really get scared that maybe I'm

802
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: so unself aware that people could be mocking me without

803
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: me knowing it and being like she thinks she's fucking talented,

804
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: like the way that I mock them. Again, it comes

805
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: back to me, I'm judging these people. I'm worried that

806
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: someone's gonna think of me that way. Like Anya, you

807
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: were having this stress about your teeth, right, will you

808
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: explain some of that.

809
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: I've had a rough forty eight hours. I've gone it's

810
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: been a dark night of the soul, two nights in

811
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: a row. But I'm better now I'm on the other

812
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 2: side of it.

813
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 3: That's a funny way to say sorry.

814
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: I stole that from Kate. My friend Kate always says it. Yeah,

815
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: I was, I'm in my veneers. It's a journey. I

816
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: thought I was done, and then I just kept looking

817
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: at them and I was just like, they're too long.

818
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: They're just still too long. I still don't how much.

819
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: Time are you spending looking at them in the mirror.

820
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: Like I'll be on a zoom and I'll just be like, God,

821
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: my teeth look like chimpmunk teeth. Anyway, then I went

822
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: to get I went to see my dermatologist in New

823
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: York yesterday, and I'm like, can I ask you something?

824
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: You're like a beauty expert, and I just want to know.

825
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm going a little crazy with these teeth, and I

826
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 2: just want to ask you about my veneers, my forefront veneers.

827
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: I don't even finish my question, which was gonna be

828
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: do you think they're a little too long? And I

829
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: should have them shaved down just a hair And she goes, yes,

830
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: the forefront teeth are much darker than the rest of

831
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: your teeth.

832
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I wasn't.

833
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 4: Oh no, I.

834
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: Can ask about the shade. And then I start obsessing

835
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: about them. Are they I just had some tea, so

836
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: that might be it. She goes, They're definitely darker than

837
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 2: the rest. I'm like, fuck me, and then she goes,

838
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: but yeah, they are too long, I would say, and

839
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, okay, thank you, And then I thought

840
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: I had another thing.

841
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: What man also through the dangerous game asking and I've

842
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: never once asked. I don't know if you've ever noticed this.

843
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: I've never once asked is if I have an insecurity?

844
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: I never ask you is this is my nose? Big?

845
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: Is my forehead? Two long? Is my Do I look

846
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: fat in this? Because I will I think it. I

847
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: will never ever ask, because you're either lying to me

848
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: or you confirm the thing. I'm scared of more than

849
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: anything in the world, asking someone do I look fat

850
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 3: in this? Which is like this classic Oh.

851
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 4: My wife asked me? Do I look like?

852
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: No one ever? Ever? I'm telling you women, protect yourselves,

853
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: protect yourselves, and do not ask people for feedback on

854
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: your looks ever. Stop this game.

855
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: They could also be wrong. They could also be dead wrong, of.

856
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: Course, of course. And guess who serves to make money

857
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: off you by telling you you don't look good enough?

858
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: A dermatologist. Sorry, they're in the I'm not this one

859
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: in particular. I like her a lot. I've seen her

860
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: before too, But I would never ever ask my dermatologist

861
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: about my face, even though that's their job to assess

862
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 3: it and give you recommendations. No, thank you, because you

863
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: are it's it does not behoove you to tell me

864
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: that my face is perfect. The way it is doesn't.

865
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: Give you any different from I have an insecurity and

866
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: I want you to uh like it's different from do

867
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: I look fat in this? Because that's a pointless You

868
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: can't change your fat like immediately, you know. And I

869
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: was wanting to shave these down, and I just wanted

870
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: someone else to be like, I kind of see what

871
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: you're talking about.

872
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: What she did.

873
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: So I was relieved, and I did have them shaved

874
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: down a little because a lot of people were like,

875
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: I think they look fine. My mom was like, yes,

876
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: too big, shaved down? So I did.

877
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: And I don't eat ask a immigrant for anyone from

878
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 3: Eastern Europe about your looks. If you're looking to feel

879
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: good about yourself, don't ask because they're gonna give you

880
00:42:53,800 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 3: an honest answer that it's going to be heartbreaking and.

881
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 4: You can't judge looks. They can't show you music.

882
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: Do you ask your girl? Do you ask your fiance

883
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: Brian like things about your looks? Do you ever like

884
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: do the kind of like do you ever do the

885
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: because I guess my question is a lot of times

886
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: I read memes where girls will be like, would you

887
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: love me if I was a worm with no with

888
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: a blue Worm, and all I could do was yodel,

889
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: and the guy's like, I don't think so She's like,

890
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: fuck you. It's like, who would girls actually do this?

891
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: I would never want to know what my boyfriend truly

892
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 3: thinks about me. One time, one time, and I will

893
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 3: never forget it because it was well one time Chris

894
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: wad in on my looks in a way that might

895
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: have been I could take as bad. He one time

896
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: said because I was crying about feeling too big in

897
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: my body, and he said, I like you at this size.

898
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: I like you in a size where you feel like

899
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: maybe you're too thin. I like you. I liked you

900
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: even at the size when you were doing Nicky and

901
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: Sarah Live, which was like seven years prior to this conversation.

902
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: And I don't know what the fuck that meant. That

903
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: could have meant I was really skinny, or it could

904
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: have meant I was a big lady. I don't know,

905
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: but I will never forget it ever. And there's something

906
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: about there was something wrong with my body back then

907
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 3: that he was like, I even liked you then, And

908
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: it wasn't he was just he was saying the best

909
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: thing I could have heard then. But of course, my

910
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: crazy mind has tattooed that on my amigdala.

911
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: Well, implying that other people did it.

912
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 3: Even yeah, and I don't know. I still I didn't

913
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 3: ask for clarification. I didn't go, wait, what was with

914
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: my body back then? I didn't want to know.

915
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to know. It was radically different from

916
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: what's that.

917
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: I don't read comments. I don't read comments. I don't

918
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: read I don't want any feedback because it's only going

919
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 3: to make me feel worse.

920
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: Agree, I got, don't open the door to something that's done.

921
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: I remember my friend saying years ago, she was like, God,

922
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: I made a mistake. I was pregnant, and I promised

923
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: myself I was never going to ask my husband do

924
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: I look fat, or ever like open the door to

925
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: commenting on my body. That's just not going to be

926
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: a thing. And then I had an insecure day around

927
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 2: my fourth or fifth month, and I said to him

928
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: do you think I look fat? And I wish I

929
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: had never made that an okay topic because then ever,

930
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: periodically throughout my pregnancy, he would make little jokes or whatever,

931
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: or like comment on my body, and I hate it.

932
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: This is a person with no eating disorder or any

933
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: body dysmorphia either. She's like the most normal girl and

934
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: she was like it was so annoying and it was

935
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: my own fault. So I remembered that, and I've tried

936
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: to always kind of keep that a rule for myself,

937
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: like don't open the door to like like giving Matt

938
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 2: permission to comment on my looks or anything. It's like

939
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: that's not a topic for you.

940
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: Or maybe it's not. Yeah, Chris says I'm hot, and

941
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: he'll say stuff like recently, I've been feeling bad and

942
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: about my you know, just feeling uncomfortable with my skin.

943
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: The other day he was just like, I'm sorry. I

944
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: was like naked, and he just goes, I'm sorry, what

945
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: could what could you want to change? I don't even know.

946
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: It was very nice. He was just like, what, you're perfect,

947
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: And I was like, it's the morning. I'm very thin

948
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 3: in the morning. I was like wait. And then yesterday

949
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: he was like, and you know, you're right, like you

950
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: said yesterday, like in the morning, you're always in thinner.

951
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: And he was like, I feel that way for myself,

952
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: and I was like, wait, are you confirming that I

953
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: am thinner in the morning? And then I like it.

954
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: I spun it. He wasn't saying that at all. He

955
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: was just saying, oh, it's like you said yesterday about

956
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: like you look like more shit throughout the day, meaning

957
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: you the general you, not you Nikki Glazer, but it

958
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, you can't win. Do you get into

959
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: those with with Ali Brian.

960
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a men women thing, because

961
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 4: like when I like, I gained twenty pounds and I've

962
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 4: been working that off leading up to the wedding, and

963
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: rather than asking Ali how I look, I would just

964
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: walk around the house going I'm a fat piece of

965
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 4: shit and then I would I have my belly. I

966
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 4: would hit my belly. You know how big my fucking

967
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: belly is. I'm a fat piece of shit. And she'd

968
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 4: go like, stop saying that, Stop saying that about yourself, Like, no,

969
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: but I am. I'm a fat piece of shit. And

970
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: now I've lost some of the weight, so I don't

971
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: say it anymore. But right that's what I would do.

972
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's because I'm a man.

973
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: Chris also, I mean, I can't speak for how he

974
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 3: experiences this, but I'll try he I'll try to speak

975
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: for exactly how he feels. He loves when I do that.

976
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: He when he has gained weight, which he will admit to,

977
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 3: he doesn't care. He's just like, it's just an amazing

978
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: difference between I think, and this is not all men.

979
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 3: First of all, I know men suffer with eating disorders

980
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: almost as much as women do now, so it's I

981
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: don't think that I'm blanket statement ing this. But he

982
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 3: looks at when he's gained weight. He's just like, I

983
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: just got to like be better and just like change it,

984
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 3: and like it's just like and his stomach can be

985
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: like like if my stomach is folding over anything like ever,

986
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: if my pants are too tight, I will want to

987
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: rip off my skit, like if I'm on co I

988
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: need things to fit properly so that they don't feel

989
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: like anything's like like if I feel the band of

990
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: my underwear like pulling in And this is all my

991
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: own obsession. But he just I will be mad at

992
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 3: myself in the present, whereas he will say to himself.

993
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: What I imagine he says to himself is like, yeah,

994
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: I need to fix this. I'm gonna I'm gonna tighten

995
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 3: things up pretty soon, and I'm gonna like take care

996
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 3: of it. And it's not a moral issue, Like it's

997
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: not like he's a bad person. He's a lazy piece

998
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: of shit. He you know, he can have a little

999
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: thing of like, oh god, I went too hard and

1000
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of disappointment maybe in himself for

1001
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: how he's been eating. But it's not like the end

1002
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: of the fucking world, and there is a future in

1003
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: which he gets it together, whereas I think it just

1004
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: stops with the present. For me, this is what in

1005
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: the past doesn't even matter of when I when I've

1006
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: gotten it together in the past, it's like this is

1007
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,479
Speaker 3: what I am now, and I'm in this and there's

1008
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: no there's no like and I'm trying to do that

1009
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: more of like I just need to, you know, tighten

1010
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: things up, Like oh I just need to like start,

1011
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 3: you know, doing a little bit better instead of like

1012
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 3: you are bad right now, you're a piece of shit,

1013
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: Like that's that do you do? You you're talking about

1014
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 3: talking about like I'm a fat piece of ship. I've

1015
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: never done that of like look at this, like that's

1016
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 3: almost like jovial and fun, like that's having fun with it.

1017
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you're saying a piece of shit, and I

1018
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: don't like that. But you're at least like you're just

1019
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 3: like you have a good time.

1020
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 4: I'm not getting judged.

1021
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 3: It's not heavy.

1022
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 4: I'm not getting judged like you are. I'm not getting

1023
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 4: judged on how I look and different. It's just my shirt.

1024
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 4: I'm really upset because my shirt doesn't fit right. But

1025
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: that's about where it ends. Like no one's telling me

1026
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 4: I can't have a job because I'm I'm like twenty

1027
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 4: pounds heavier.

1028
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: Yes, no one's telling us that either, but it's simply

1029
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 3: they're not. They won't say it specifically unless you're a model,

1030
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: but it isn't. That's even n I have to say.

1031
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: It's even more annoying. You wish they would just say

1032
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: it because you know it's true, but they you don't,

1033
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: you know.

1034
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 4: Be nice if they just said it. They said, listen,

1035
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: you're too for this job.

1036
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: So they used to tell actresses you gotta lose twenty

1037
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: pounds to play this role in the Avengers and then

1038
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 3: what happens. But the truth is, sorry, this Avenger wouldn't

1039
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: be twenty pounds overweight. Like is that that should be

1040
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: okay for them to say, But it's it's not. I mean,

1041
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's okay to body shame women and

1042
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: make them go be anorexic to you know, look like

1043
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: Storm or whoever she's trying to portray. But I think

1044
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 3: it's gone too much the other way too of Like,

1045
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's sometimes you there is an aesthetic

1046
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: that you want for your fashion show or whatever, and like,

1047
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 3: if you want all aniroxic models, that's your prerogative. You're

1048
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 3: the artist, like, and we.

1049
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: Can if we want to.

1050
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: And we, yeah, we don't have to. Well we can't

1051
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: wear you because we're not size zeros, but like we

1052
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: we can hate you for it, and you can hate

1053
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: us for being fat or whatever it is. Like, but

1054
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: at the same time, I also love, like, you know,

1055
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: fat people included in fashion shows and stuff like that.

1056
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: That always makes me feel really good and happy. And

1057
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: so I don't know, I'm kind of stuck between. I'm

1058
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: all over the place, But I see what you're saying

1059
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: with me is.

1060
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: You want to have more of an attitude that Chris

1061
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: has toward himself when he's going through something, you know,

1062
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: like a little wake in. You want to have that

1063
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: kind of forgiveness and extend it to yourself or some

1064
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: some jovial elements.

1065
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: Like a lightness about it. Of like because he'll even

1066
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 3: say to me because he knows that I get into

1067
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: eating the sort of brain. And when I hear him

1068
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: say I gotta be better about my food, I hear

1069
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: that as I'm going to start starving myself and I'm

1070
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 3: going to be a dick to be around because I

1071
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: think about myself when I'm starving, and I'm a bitch.

1072
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: So I think, oh great, my boyfriend is going to

1073
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: be in a bad mood. He's going to be hungry

1074
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 3: and tired all the time because he has to go

1075
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: on a diet to fix what he's fucked up. But

1076
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: for him it's like, no, I just have to like

1077
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 3: eat more vegetables and go to the g and more.

1078
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: It's like it's not this like.

1079
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 4: This is all eyes together, this is all this makes

1080
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 4: sense with everything you've been talking about. Really, yeah, because

1081
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 4: when you talk about.

1082
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: A therapist, will you guys get.

1083
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 4: An email frequently already email? No? Because you talk about

1084
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 4: playing the guitar and how if it's not good enough

1085
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: then you just want to quit. It's the same thing

1086
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 4: as your body. It's a perfectionist tendency, and you would

1087
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: rather quit, You would rather rip off your skin than

1088
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 4: be seen not good in the eyes of other people. Yes,

1089
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: And also what does that mean?

1090
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 3: What does it mean if I'm overweight? What does that?

1091
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: What does that mean to me? What does that mean

1092
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: to other people? For some reason, I like to piece

1093
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: that apart, because what's the harm people think? I think

1094
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: that people will see my depression for me, It's like

1095
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 3: they'll see that I'm like I equate when I gain weight.

1096
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: It's because I'm out of control. I'm depressed. I'm my

1097
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 3: emotions are fucking rampant, and I'm probably kind of suicidal

1098
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: because not because I'm fat, but because I'm eating too much.

1099
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm regulating my emotions with food, and they can see

1100
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: through that, even though I'm telling you it most of

1101
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: the time that I'm feeling depressed or whatever. For some reason,

1102
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: me having controlled the narrative that way, as opposed to

1103
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 3: you looking at me and secretly going like that's what

1104
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 3: I was getting to Anya was worried that people were

1105
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: talking about her behind her back, about her teeth. Her

1106
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: biggest fear was people. I want I want to be

1107
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: able to control the narrative about like, guys, I've gained

1108
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: weight recently. Guys, I'm depressed. I don't want you to

1109
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: go Like, have you guys noticed that Nikki's arms are

1110
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: looking a little like that is my biggest fear. Why

1111
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: who gives a fuck? You know, but that is our

1112
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 3: biggest fear.

1113
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was fearing that. Matt was like, her teeth

1114
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: are kind of beaverbuctus, but I'm not gonna tell her

1115
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: because I love her and she probably can't change it,

1116
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: you know, That's what I ask or some sort of

1117
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: good They are kind of big, but it's fine. It's

1118
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: too late. She can't get her old ones back. I'll

1119
00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: just be honest.

1120
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: Oh, I was like, they look like Taylor Swifts and

1121
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 3: I'm jealous.

1122
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: I was worrying my dentist, like was going to be annoyed,

1123
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: Like Jesus Christ, here comes a time and it's bitch

1124
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: that's been in four times this last year.

1125
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 4: I got really Oh yeah, if my dentist has me

1126
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: on a list, she says. She has written in her

1127
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 4: notes that no other person at her practice is allowed

1128
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: to talk to me. What because I've been there so often,

1129
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 4: because I'm full of problems and they can't explain it.

1130
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: And I have psycho issues. You and I keep getting

1131
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 4: surgical of interventions that don't work.

1132
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: And they talk to him, they might say something that

1133
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 3: will set that he needs to fix. Yeah, and she

1134
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: told you that.

1135
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: She wrote it down in the notes, and then I went.

1136
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 4: I went one time to the dentist and she just.

1137
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: Where the bathroom was to someone and they wouldn't even

1138
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: look at him. And he has started to suspect things.

1139
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 2: So he looked in the online portal and it's like, patient, is.

1140
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 4: My dentist that can talk to me. Was on a

1141
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 4: trip to Italy and I and I made an appointment

1142
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 4: and I went in with teeth pain and the dentist

1143
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 4: UH came in. She looked at me and I was like, well,

1144
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: can you help me with this? And then she and

1145
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: she said sure, I can help you with this. She

1146
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 4: went out of the room, looked at the notes, came

1147
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 4: back in and she said, I'm sorry, I cannot help you.

1148
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: And she left the room and then she sent in

1149
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 4: a receptionist to play interference.

1150
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 2: That is, so you.

1151
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: Were in pain, so no one helped you? Not No,

1152
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 3: it's in his head. And they knew that this woman

1153
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: is correct, she's protecting Brian his own self. She's like, yes, maybe, yeah,

1154
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 3: And you know what your doctor should have said is

1155
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 3: I'm not weighing in on your teeth. It is not

1156
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 3: in my jurisdiction. And I'm not to give you advice.

1157
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 3: They should know their lane. And yes, it's like, Okay,

1158
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 3: take a break. We're gonna come back. We're gonna help

1159
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 3: some people because I think we have some advice to

1160
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: give in our fan thrust and we're gonna get some

1161
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: fan threats today. Don't even think we won't. We'll be

1162
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 3: right back with your call after this. All right, we're

1163
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: back and we're talking to Brian because we're not at

1164
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: his dentist's office. To Brian.

1165
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 4: E after this episode, I can't believe it's up to disclaimer.

1166
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 4: It's up to you whether or not to take our advice.

1167
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I think I think we're set to

1168
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: give some We just I yeah, I go to you

1169
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 3: guys for advice. Noah's been quiet. She's the best advice giver. Yes,

1170
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm the best, but you are

1171
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: one of the best. Empathetic, understanding. You do the thing

1172
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 3: where you like say you repeat back to the person

1173
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 3: what they're worried about, and like confirm like you're not

1174
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: crazy for feeling this way, and then you offer advice

1175
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: in a gentle way that always makes me feel seen

1176
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 3: and hopeful. You're very good at it, very good.

1177
00:56:51,120 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes she's very lucky to have had a mess.

1178
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: Excellent, excellent, specific, honest compliment. Sometimes people are shitty at compliments.

1179
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 4: I read a book about this. That's a good compliment.

1180
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 3: I think I'm very good compliment myself in that way.

1181
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Brian, thank you. Actually, yeah, I'm sorry. I

1182
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: took that away from you and gave it to myself

1183
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 3: from you. Thank you for that compliment. All right, let's

1184
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: get to fan thrax. Thank you, ab All right, Well,

1185
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: who do we have?

1186
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 5: Well, I wanted to read a quick fan thrax that

1187
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 5: we got on Instagram from Caitlin. So she listened to

1188
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 5: Not Horseworthy when Julie was on the pod talking about

1189
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 5: her concussions, and she goes and Nicky's okay. So I

1190
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 5: just listened to the recent episode with Nicki's mom and

1191
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 5: couldn't believe she was called pig woman. My dad is

1192
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 5: one of eight and his sister was also called pig

1193
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 5: woman by her siblings. Whoa kirie If that's a generational thing.

1194
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 5: My dad and his siblings were born in the fifties

1195
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 5: through sixties.

1196
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: Yes, same, my mom's born in fifty nine. Wow, pig woman,

1197
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 3: they need to meet It must have been like some

1198
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: kind of comic book character or something.

1199
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 4: Pig woman. They I think they should have a little

1200
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 4: they should meet up, and all the pig women of

1201
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 4: America should have a meeting.

1202
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 3: I believe my mom made it out alive. And I

1203
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: am as normal as I am, and she is as

1204
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: normal as she is to be. Well, Chris is like,

1205
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: I even loved you when you were a pig. I

1206
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 3: mean when you when you're whatever size you are.

1207
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 4: Okay, So I have some information about pig woman. Apparently, yes, apparently.

1208
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 4: In New Jersey in nineteen twenty two, a man and

1209
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 4: a woman were murdered next to a and their bodies

1210
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 4: were found next to a tree, and the prosecutions star

1211
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 4: witness was named the pig Woman.

1212
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1213
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 4: Yes, her real name was Jane Gibson. She who lived

1214
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 4: in the neighborhood.

1215
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 3: And why was she nicknamed the ping woman?

1216
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 4: Do we have any Well, I haven't read that's this.

1217
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 4: I haven't read the whole thing. But the prosecution told

1218
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: the jury the big woman was dying and wished to

1219
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 4: get the real story off her conscience. Why is she

1220
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 4: a pig woman? It doesn't say. It just says she

1221
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 4: was known as the pig woman.

1222
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all this sounds like an episode of Perry Mason.

1223
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 4: She was a witness to a murder.

1224
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm guessing she took care of pigs. No one

1225
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 3: would call someone actually in the twenties, who knows. Okay,

1226
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: let's get to.

1227
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: Let's get to some voicemails. Here's the first one from Molly.

1228
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: Do you have advice on what to do when you

1229
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: developed feelings for a friend and they're like a best

1230
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: friend and you hang out all the time, and I

1231
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: did just have anse feelings that have built and you

1232
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: just like they're just like boiling, you know, you just

1233
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: want to tell them, but you're also so scared of

1234
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: It's like if it doesn't last in or end up

1235
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: in like a relationship, there's always that weird layer added

1236
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: to your friendship and you can't go back. And I

1237
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: don't know, man, advice, help help, just just please help.

1238
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, girl, sweet?

1239
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 3: Oh man, so sweet. I bet he has a crush

1240
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: on you too. I mean most of the time it

1241
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: is reciprocal.

1242
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: I was getting turned on just listening to her voicemail

1243
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: for some reason.

1244
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: Voice. Yeah, you know why, because it's so awesome having

1245
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 3: a crush, yes, especially when that you get to be

1246
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: around all the time and they don't know it, Molly.

1247
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 3: As much as this is hard, something's either gonna happen

1248
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 3: with this guy or not gonna happen. Nothing will ever

1249
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 3: feel as good as having a crush. Else it will

1250
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 3: Nothing will light you up inside. Not eternal love, not fine,

1251
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 3: not your wedding day, not casually dancing on the dance

1252
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: floor with your betrothed. Nothing will ever feel as good.

1253
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 3: Not heroin, no drug can ever make you feel this way.

1254
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 3: It is. I'm jealous. I'm honestly jealous because I will

1255
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: never have this again if I win with Chris the

1256
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: rest of my life, I'll never have this like unrequited

1257
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: or like seemingly hope, hope that it could be requited. Crush.

1258
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 3: It's exactly so they could like you back. It's so good,

1259
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 3: it's it's and once you find out if they like you,

1260
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 3: it's fine. It's not as good as not knowing Yes,

1261
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 3: and then you get bored, and then you both like

1262
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 3: each other. It's this mystery that feels so good, so

1263
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: as uncomfortable it is, know that it is just a

1264
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 3: great feeling and really fun and you will someday hear

1265
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: someone talk about it and feel the same way I do,

1266
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 3: which is like I'm just making a face like I am, Yeah,

1267
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: you were kind of looking making a face like I

1268
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: don't think I remember liking that feeling so much.

1269
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: Crushes.

1270
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: I always remember being like, I know why.

1271
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 3: This is called their crush because.

1272
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: It's just like, oh, there's so much tension there.

1273
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: I love it.

1274
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: It's like I want to let myself have it. I'm

1275
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: going to enjoy the hunger.

1276
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 4: And I'm always like having a crush as being in

1277
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 4: an eternal state of anticipation.

1278
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's Christmas Eve forever, and that's what I like.

1279
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 3: I don't like Christmas. I like Christmas Eve. I don't

1280
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 3: like June first, my birthday. I like May thirty first,

1281
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 3: it's better than my birthday. I don't like June second.

1282
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 3: It's the worst. I don't know, Like, I love being

1283
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 3: in my relationship, but I love when we miss each

1284
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: other and we're like about to see each other first time.

1285
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: That's all the good stuff. And then and I'm not

1286
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: wrong because studies have been done, and your dopamine levels rise, rise, rise, rise.

1287
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 3: If you're going out to eat and you ordered food

1288
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: that you're really excited about, it's rising, rising, rising. Oh,

1289
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: you see it coming, the waiters bringing it, peak, peaking, peaking.

1290
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: You take your first bite, plummet That's when it starts

1291
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 3: to go down and you think, you're like, no, this

1292
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 3: is the most enjoyable part. It's not plummeting, but it's

1293
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 3: it's descending from that first bite on. But you right

1294
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: before the first bite.

1295
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 4: I have two suggests. I have pitches. I have two

1296
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 4: pitches of what she could try to do. One thing

1297
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 4: she could try to do is say that she is

1298
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 4: looking to go date, she's getting on the apps or whatever,

1299
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 4: and she wants to get his advice, and then she

1300
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 4: can kind of feel out how he feels about giving

1301
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 4: her advice.

1302
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 3: Because chessing, Molly has already tried to try this. I

1303
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: mean that isn't that the first in your toolbox of

1304
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: like mentioning another guy you think is cute or something.

1305
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: I feel like there is some sort of I could

1306
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 3: be wrong but I think that is great advice. You

1307
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: you you test the waters to see if they get

1308
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 3: a little jealous.

1309
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, test the waters.

1310
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: It's the worst one. They don't.

1311
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 3: Oh godd Anya has a whole song about it.

1312
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: I have a whole life about it.

1313
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 3: Notice Me. Anya's song Notice Me is a really good

1314
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 3: song to listen to, Molly, because it's even though she

1315
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 3: was sleeping with that person who didn't who she was

1316
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 3: just friends with. That's the worst is when you're hooking

1317
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 3: up with a friend casually and you love them and

1318
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: they don't feel the same way.

1319
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: Any day it's been five years, any day he's gonna

1320
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 2: want to be my boyfriend?

1321
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 3: What are some pitches?

1322
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 4: What about doing that thing where you say if we're

1323
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 4: both single and ten years, we'll get married and see

1324
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 4: how he reacts to that.

1325
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not crazy about that one because it's too forward.

1326
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 3: I think what I've done because I've been this girl

1327
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 3: many times and I Molly, I think you probably know

1328
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 3: he likes you back, but he's just you're like waiting

1329
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 3: for the next shoe to drop, because I don't think

1330
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 3: you would even call in and have hope if you

1331
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 3: didn't kind of know he liked you, right, but maybe not.

1332
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 3: Maybe he totally sees you as a friend. I think

1333
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 3: that no guy hangs out with a girl constantly as

1334
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: a best friend unless there's some kind of vibe there. Yeah,

1335
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: unless they have a girlfriend already. And then you guys

1336
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 3: are like, have this because I've had best friends that

1337
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 3: are guys and like, is.

1338
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: It a guy?

1339
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: Is it a girl? We don't know, it's just her friend.

1340
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,479
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I think it's a guy. But I could

1341
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: be wrong. Maybe I'm just injecting that into it. But okay, whatever,

1342
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 3: so the person is probably probably.

1343
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 4: I have the answer. I know what to do. Great, okay, Okay,

1344
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 4: so first thing what we all know not to do.

1345
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 4: Do not do this. Do not get this person a

1346
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 4: gift or something like that.

1347
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 3: Don't take anything.

1348
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 4: What you should do is for the next month, start

1349
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 4: acting aloof yep, don't just maybe you can't hang out

1350
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 4: so often, maybe you're just a little bit busy. Don't

1351
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 4: bring anything.

1352
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: Specific of what you want to do.

1353
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 4: Yes, And then over time you might see him start pursuing.

1354
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 4: He'll start to get a little nervous, he'll start pulling

1355
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 4: his collar.

1356
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 3: Go on dates, go on dates, startling dates and don't

1357
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 3: even no, do tell him, but be casual about it,

1358
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 3: but schedule dates just for the like, because I know

1359
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: when I really am in love with someone, I don't

1360
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 3: want to go on dates with other guys, Like I

1361
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 3: know who I like, and but you just just do

1362
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 3: it for him. Here's you like doing.

1363
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: Dress up, look cute, look hot every time you see.

1364
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 3: Them, skin, touch your hair a lot, and.

1365
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: Don't dying to hang out, like, don't be desperate, and.

1366
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 3: If you want to, just like cut to the chase.

1367
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 3: And this is what I've done every single time with

1368
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 3: guys that in this I've I think every single guy

1369
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: I've ever had anything with I was friends with first.

1370
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 3: Maybe not every one of them, but ninety percent. And

1371
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: this doesn't work because I never ended up with any

1372
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 3: of them, but I did end up dating some of them.

1373
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: I've told this before. You'll be hanging out as friends

1374
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 3: just casually and you go, oh my god, I forgot

1375
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 3: to tell you, and they go what, and you go,

1376
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 3: I like you? And you just make it seem so

1377
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 3: casual and you go, I like you, and they're like

1378
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 3: they'll start to like laugh and you're like, yeah, oh

1379
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 3: my god, I forgot, like I like you I think

1380
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 3: we should like make out, Like you just say it

1381
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 3: like it's nothing, it's funny. Should we then it's funny? Yeah?

1382
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: You just go, oh my god. You know, I was

1383
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 3: just thinking and they're like, wait, what, like you don't

1384
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 3: see a movie like you'll think you have like an idea.

1385
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: You just go, we should make out, and they're like,

1386
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 3: take it will be funny, and so they laugh first,

1387
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 3: and then that kind of cuts the tension.

1388
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: I will know about that, But that can work with

1389
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: a very passive guy. I think who needs who cannot

1390
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: make the first move, but I I have had experience. Well,

1391
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: let me say one thinkers, here's the good news. You

1392
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: cannot have, according to all these big thinkers and philosophers,

1393
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 2: cannot have attraction.

1394
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: Tout who doesn't have attraction to you?

1395
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1396
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 3: Yes, it has to go both ways. But what about

1397
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 3: all the times that you've like longed for someone and

1398
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 3: they didn't like it.

1399
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: Right, It doesn't mean they're going to do anything about it,

1400
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: or they're serious or they're a great partner. But if

1401
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: you're feeling an attraction, you're not crazy. There's a vibe

1402
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: and maybe that person's trying out to people.

1403
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 4: Definitely weren't attracted to me.

1404
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: I think it's more than like wanting to fuck them. Okay,

1405
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 3: like feeling a sparkle.

1406
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 4: I want people and they don't want to fuck me

1407
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 4: at all.

1408
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 2: When you're feeling like is there something here? There probably is,

1409
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean they're great for you. I had

1410
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 2: it happen once with a friend who I never ever

1411
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 2: ever thought of as attractive, and I couldn't believe it

1412
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 2: when it happened. And but I did want to hang

1413
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 2: out with them all the time, and we were hanging

1414
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: out a lot, and we were very good friends. And

1415
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 2: then one night I was like, not even crushing on

1416
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 2: them at all, and they were like, let's go to

1417
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 2: a speakeasy and we were hanging out and just talking,

1418
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 2: and I don't know what happened. I was like, cud

1419
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: him cold, cold in this place it's freezing.

1420
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 6: Oh I'm a little cold a little dress, and he's like,

1421
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 6: you're always cold to his skin. Yep, it's something happened

1422
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 6: where I had some vulnerability. And I'm usually the alpha

1423
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 6: with this relationship, but I wasn't that night. I had

1424
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 6: my period, I hadn't showered in two days, I had

1425
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 6: greasy hair, I was throwing out.

1426
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: Some kind of weird hormone pheromone. I didn't care about

1427
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 2: them at all, and he was.

1428
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 4: All alpha moves right there. Described it is, Yeah, you're

1429
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 4: like a total alpha. You're giving off your hormones. You

1430
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 4: don't give me.

1431
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 3: He was like, this person that you're talking about likes

1432
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 3: alpha women, so I think that. And he was like,

1433
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 3: it's not far off.

1434
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: Let's go for a drink. And I'm like, no, I'm tired.

1435
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 2: I want to watch Real housewives. And he's like, get

1436
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: out of your house. Let's go for a drink. Meet me.

1437
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm bored, Let's go for a drink. I'm like fine.

1438
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: I was just like so cranky. I mean, this is

1439
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: the way you want to be. I wish I liked

1440
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 2: this person at the time. And then we go I'm cold.

1441
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 2: Next thing, I know, he puts his jacket on me

1442
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: or I like somehow we're like closer together than usual,

1443
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: and then I don't know what the fuck happened, and

1444
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 2: he he looked at me weird, and I looked at

1445
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: him weird, and then I think he said should we kiss?

1446
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: And I was like ew no, I was like no way.

1447
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: And then he's like I think we should and I

1448
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: was like, you do we're like friends, and he's like,

1449
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 2: I think we should kiss, and then we kiss and

1450
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 2: it was like twenty minutes of I looked up when

1451
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 2: we were done with the kiss, I came up for

1452
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 2: air and the entire bar that was full was empty

1453
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: and they were closing down. I'm like, how did I

1454
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 2: lose at least twenty minutes of my life? And it

1455
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: was like an amazing kiss and a disaster of the

1456
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: next few months of my life. But it was so

1457
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: fun to just like have this weird thing happened with a.

1458
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 4: Friend and are you friends now?

1459
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're friends now. We came out of it. It

1460
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 2: had to happen. We were hanging out too much, too often,

1461
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: and you know, we're not that close anymore, but like

1462
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 2: I consider them, you know, an acquaintance. And it was

1463
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: it's sort of like it's like you're really gonna have

1464
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 2: a ZiT on your face for three weeks. It's like

1465
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 2: a white head and you're never gonna pop it. That's

1466
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: how I look at it, Like it's got to blow

1467
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:26,959
Speaker 2: at some point.

1468
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 4: But try incremental.

1469
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 3: I remember the whole thing of like what if we

1470
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 3: ruin the friendship I'm like, fuck the friendship. We got

1471
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 3: a situation down here. I'm uncomfortable every time we hang out.

1472
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 3: I remember that you were like piece, so mohabo, you

1473
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 3: don't care about our dumb friendship. I remember he looked

1474
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 3: so sad when I said that to ye, he really

1475
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 3: seemed bumped. And to tell you the truth, we don't

1476
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 3: have a friendship anymore because I got my heart broken

1477
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 3: and I was a bit of about it, and so

1478
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 3: he will never trust me or really be my friend again.

1479
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 3: And I did ruin the friendship because I because you

1480
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 3: can't really go back, Anya, You'll never be as close

1481
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: as that person as you were. You can't go back,

1482
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 3: so that you are running that risk, Molly, But it

1483
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 3: doesn't sound like there's any other option. You gotta pop

1484
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 3: that ZiT.

1485
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 4: Steps first, Take the steps before you get to the

1486
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 4: thing where you just come out and say it. Take

1487
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 4: the steps.

1488
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 3: I want to hear. I want to hear an update.

1489
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure this voicemail is old because we haven't done

1490
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 3: these a while. Can you tell us an update of

1491
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 3: what has happened since? Because I know that you didn't

1492
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 3: wait for us to give you advice. Something has happened

1493
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 3: you were chomping at the big girl and everyone else fails.

1494
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 3: Play him this podcast and go do you want to

1495
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 3: hear a podcast? And then that's how you can tell him,

1496
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 3: even though I don't think that works in scept on TikTok.

1497
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 3: You see people be like, tell your point to your

1498
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 3: crush in the car, and they'll like point to the guy,

1499
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 3: and the guy's like really, and then they start making

1500
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 3: out and they live happily ever after. Have you seen those? Okay,

1501
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 3: let's get to the next stuff. Fanther Rex.

1502
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 5: Okay, here's a very very cute voicemail from Catherine Nikki.

1503
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 8: I have been a bestie since You're Not Safe days.

1504
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 8: Oh my god, and it has been so interesting to

1505
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 8: grow with you. I love the Not Safe podcast so

1506
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 8: much that I even listened to Brian's Alien podcast. Brian,

1507
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,799
Speaker 8: and in that time, I had just graduated high school,

1508
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 8: and I loved during Chris's relationship, and I would often

1509
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 8: compare it to my own. And now years later, the

1510
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 8: guy that I was seeing then and I are back together.

1511
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 8: You and Chris are back together. And here I am

1512
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 8: again listening to your podcast with Brian as I'm again

1513
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 8: about to graduate, this time.

1514
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: With my masters Yeah, it just.

1515
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 8: Feels like I've been zipped back to the summer of

1516
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 8: twenty sixteen. And I love this weird parallel cycle that

1517
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 8: we're on and I can't wait to see where it

1518
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 8: takes us.

1519
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I love Bestie.

1520
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: I love you so much. Holy fuck, God really touched me.

1521
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 3: It's true. What about thank you so much? I'm sure

1522
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 3: where's our journey?

1523
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 2: I want to talk about our relationship.

1524
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's just off with you guys right now,

1525
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 3: just like it's something, it's off and on. No that

1526
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 3: it's so freaking sweet, and it means so much to

1527
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: me because I have been around long enough now that

1528
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 3: I have fans from so many different stages and they'll

1529
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 3: be like, I know you from Nicken Saturdays, I know

1530
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 3: you from Not Safe Days, I know you from you know,

1531
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 3: Last Comic Standing days. Like I had a fan, Charlie

1532
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 3: Fields come to my show last in Vegas. No it

1533
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 3: was the Phoenix or no, sorry Tucson, and he was

1534
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 3: my first fan ever. He found me from Last Comic

1535
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 3: Standing season four two thousand. It was two thousand and six.

1536
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: And I have another fan from that time, to Matt

1537
01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 3: who we text still, and it's just like so cool,

1538
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 3: cool to like grow up with people. And I really

1539
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 3: I it's so cute to me when people say, like

1540
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 3: I watched Nicky and Sarah in high school and now

1541
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 3: they're like adult children, you know, adult people. It's just

1542
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 3: it's really special. And I love that you're off and

1543
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 3: on again with your person, and yeah, and there's no

1544
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 3: shame in being off and on again. I think it's

1545
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 3: I say a joke in my act that Chris and

1546
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 3: I have been off and on for ten years, and

1547
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 3: it always gets a laugh, and I'm like, that's a setup,

1548
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 3: you guys, that's just the facts. It always gets a laugh,

1549
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what is so funny about that? What

1550
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 3: is wrong with people that like stay together or like

1551
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 3: that not that stay together the whole time? Nothing wrong

1552
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 3: with that. Good for you that break up and never

1553
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 3: get back together. I don't understand it. I don't get it.

1554
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 2: Final thought, it's like you have a lot of resilience

1555
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 2: to you. I think it's cool that you guys, obviously.

1556
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 3: You all can break up and not get back together.

1557
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 3: I don't get it. You once spent every waking Let's

1558
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 3: say you lived with the person, once lived with this person,

1559
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 3: they were your everything. You said I love you. You

1560
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 3: had hopes and dreams of spending your whole future together.

1561
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 3: Then one day you break up and you don't talk

1562
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 3: at all anymore. And the best key scenario, you're like

1563
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 3: trying to be friends, and we all know how that goes.

1564
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 3: It doesn't really work, you're co parenting or whatever it's.

1565
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't have the strength for it. I

1566
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 3: am so in awe of people that can seemingly do

1567
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 3: the thing that everyone does, which is break up forever.

1568
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 3: I don't. I I just don't. I don't understand how

1569
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 3: you could do that. Every time Chris and I break

1570
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 3: up and I do think, okay, this could be forever.

1571
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: I don't even let myself entertain that I could only

1572
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 3: break up because I know we have the ability to

1573
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 3: get back together at some point. That's the only reason

1574
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 3: I can break up, if that makes sense. Have you

1575
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 3: guys gotten back together with people you've broken up with?

1576
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: Yes?

1577
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 4: Oh yes, Oh my god, I mean I didn't. In

1578
01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 4: high school, I my first ever girlfriend, uh uh. She

1579
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 4: was two years older than me and and she kind

1580
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 4: of like scooped me up out of obscurity.

1581
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 3: To date, is that her dance move that was her

1582
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 3: dance move. You had the punch and she had the scoop.

1583
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 4: This is like. And then she one day I found

1584
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 4: out that she had given a blow job to her

1585
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 4: ex boyfriend because she felt like the The explanation was,

1586
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 4: she felt like she owed him one because of all

1587
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 4: the time high school.

1588
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 3: That makes sense somehow, you know, like that that was

1589
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 3: probably enough to make you go, I guess you're right. Yeah,

1590
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 3: you know, like, I'm sure you accepted that on some

1591
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 3: and I was.

1592
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 4: High school broken hearted, and I was playing music as

1593
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 4: so loud that you know. My dad was like, can you.

1594
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 3: What was your song back then? To help you?

1595
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 4: Oh I was. I was listening to red Hot Chili Peppers. Okay,

1596
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 4: sometimes I feel don't have a partner, Okay, yes, uh

1597
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 4: so literal, yes, I was. I only listen to the literal songs.

1598
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 4: I'm single. Now, you know, she sucked his dick and

1599
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 4: she was his ex like stuff like that. Uh. And

1600
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 4: then I was very distraught. And then like six months later,

1601
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 4: I I just was like, you want to get back together?

1602
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 4: And then for some reason I was fine with it

1603
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 4: and we did, and then we did it for like

1604
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 4: a whole other year.

1605
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I don't think that. I think, I think

1606
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 3: it's the cool thing to do. And I also am

1607
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 3: someone who's terrified of committing to anything for the rest

1608
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 3: of my life, and so breaking up forever is just

1609
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: not ever. Like the song we are never ever getting

1610
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 3: back together. Could never say that to someone because it's

1611
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 3: just too It's I would have to start the grieving

1612
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 3: process and I'm not going to do that.

1613
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: The level of like yuck with someone, that's what happens

1614
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: to me. I'm like, you're giving me the yucks, Like

1615
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: I can't ever picture us, yes, ever being physical again.

1616
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm done goodbye for it?

1617
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 3: Yes, but yeah, yeah, but I'm I don't know. I

1618
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 3: just there's a part of me that says, like maybe,

1619
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 3: like even when I move out of apartments that I'll

1620
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 3: never move into again, there's a part of me that's like,

1621
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 3: I could go back if I want it.

1622
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I could definitely go back to every apartment I've

1623
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 2: ever seen.

1624
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 3: This is the point. That's the point I want to make.

1625
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 3: It's not that I want them back. I at least

1626
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 3: want the option. And so I don't know. It's like

1627
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 3: I always knew. I always felt with Chris, like if

1628
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 3: I really want to make this work, and not that

1629
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 3: he's just like someone that will just take me back whenever,

1630
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 3: because it certainly was not that way. I just always

1631
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 3: knew if I wanted it, we could make it happen.

1632
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 3: And that's another thing. Like Chris and I have not

1633
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 3: been easy. It's not been easy. And all you hear

1634
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 3: from couples about how they knew when they knew, is

1635
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: that it was easy. It was finally easy, Shut the

1636
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 3: fuck up. I don't relate to that at all. It

1637
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: doesn't make me feel good, it doesn't make me feel hopeful.

1638
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 3: My relationship has been a struggle. There are times when

1639
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 3: it's easy, and that's fucking great, but it was not easy.

1640
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 3: And you know what, Neither was my career that I

1641
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 3: love so much. Neither was having nothing I've ever Neither

1642
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 3: was like getting into shape or learning a guitar. None

1643
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 3: of it's been easy. All these things that brought me

1644
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 3: a men's joy, none of it's easy, I've enjoyed. But

1645
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 3: I've enjoyed the pain because it makes me appreciate Taylor

1646
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 3: swift songs more. It makes me so much happier. Because

1647
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 3: Chris has even said before when we've been breaking up

1648
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 3: and I've been like please, let's just like go to

1649
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 3: therapy and like we can work through this, like we've

1650
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 3: worked through harder. There's been times where he has said, like,

1651
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 3: do you ever just think like we're just trying to

1652
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 3: make something work that isn't working, and that it's just

1653
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 3: time to maybe give up. He said that before, and

1654
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 3: like you know, times where there was no really hope

1655
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 3: and that we had to overcome a lot of stuff

1656
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 3: and a lot of stuff was said. We pulled a

1657
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 3: real shive and Tom wom last episode if you know

1658
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about, where we cleared the air and

1659
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 3: things are said and there's no resolution. We're just had

1660
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 3: all this dirty stuff out there, and it's felt like

1661
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 3: and I go, look at all this. We can now

1662
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 3: clean this up because we see it right, And He's gone, no,

1663
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 3: this is too much. And I've always said, but if

1664
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 3: when we overcome a really hard time where we both

1665
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: want to like call it quits, and we make it

1666
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 3: past that, I feel so much cooler and better about

1667
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 3: my relationship because we can withstand anything. If we were

1668
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 3: able to get through this, and it makes me feel

1669
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 3: not that it's like that's what I should wish for

1670
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 3: everyone to have, like just hard times in a relationship.

1671
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 3: But now when stuff comes up with Chris, I'm like, well,

1672
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 3: that's nothing, Like We've already dealt with way harder than that.

1673
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, every relationship is going

1674
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 3: to face those hurdles, whether it happens within your relationship

1675
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: or circumstantial things outside of it. But it's for me.

1676
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,839
Speaker 3: I don't like when people say it's gonna be easy.

1677
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 3: You'll know because it's easy. It just has never been

1678
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 3: easy with him and I and unless unless it is,

1679
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 3: when it is, it's great when we're on the couch

1680
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 3: and we're like, but but now I think we could

1681
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:14,520
Speaker 3: handle anything.

1682
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 2: Because we feel like all the fights that I've been through,

1683
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: like the big ones with Matt, they've all really made

1684
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: us closer and were committed. Of course, in the moment,

1685
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: it sucks, but I don't think we would have been

1686
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 2: as solid if we hadn't seen those dark times. I

1687
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: wonder what's gonna happen with Tom and Ship. Oh my god,

1688
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 2: I can't take it.

1689
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 3: It's not good. Watched it last night with Anya, watched

1690
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 3: it the night or I'm going to watch it again twice.

1691
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 3: I want to have twice because they're masterpieces. And yeah,

1692
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 3: I could watch it again tonight and analyze it because

1693
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 3: there's things you catch.

1694
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 2: Brian, But Noah, what we're talking about the names of

1695
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: the characters, and I know the relationship from season one.

1696
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, let's just say no one on the

1697
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 3: show is a good person. They're all self serving, they're

1698
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 3: all just but you root for some of them because

1699
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,919
Speaker 3: you know what, none of us are good people. Humans.

1700
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 3: Who just said it?

1701
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 2: I was just listening to Kendal.

1702
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't Kendall. I was listening to something. God, No, no, no,

1703
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 3: this was a really good quote. Where was it an

1704
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 3: y'all caring it with you guys?

1705
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: Humans are gonna.

1706
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 3: Humans? People are the worst humans? Or humans are the

1707
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 3: worst people? Was that was that succession? I thought it

1708
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 3: was something I just said, Yeah, humans are the I've

1709
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 3: always said humans are the worst people. No, it was

1710
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 3: some podcast I was listening to, and oh it was.

1711
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: I think it was The Last Days of August, this

1712
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 3: suicide podcast I've been listening to. But humans are the

1713
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 3: worst people and it's true, like, and this is why

1714
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 3: I'm so upset. Final thought on this, Taylor Swift, Matt

1715
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 3: Thealy thing. If you are someone out there who's like

1716
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 3: Matt heally's problematic, and we don't want our girl a

1717
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 3: dating him. Blondie deserves better because a number of things.

1718
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,839
Speaker 3: He once made out with one of his audience members

1719
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 3: who had a sign that said will you be my

1720
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 3: first kiss? And he didn't check to see if she

1721
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 3: was legal. Turns out she was, but he didn't check. Problematic.

1722
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 3: Another one was he was on a podcast and someone

1723
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 3: did an impression of an Asian voice and he laughed. Problematic.

1724
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 3: Another time was he used the R word and then

1725
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 3: when he apologized, he used the R word again to say,

1726
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 3: I'm sorry for saying the R word. Problematic. You know what,

1727
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 3: any one of you swifties out there who are so

1728
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 3: up in arms about our girl, our blondie dating this

1729
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 3: problematic dude, look at who you date. Think about the

1730
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 3: guys you date. Do you think none of them have

1731
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 3: drunkenly said something racist to their friends? Not that I

1732
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 3: think that's okay, but do you think they've never you know,

1733
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: bed in a school zone, or called their mom a

1734
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 3: cunt to her face, or or maybe done some maybe

1735
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 3: fingered a girl in a dance wor when she didn't

1736
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 3: really want it. Of course, your drunken idiot boyfriends have

1737
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 3: done that.

1738
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 4: You think none of them ever held a sniper rifle

1739
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 4: up to a North Korean child.

1740
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, no one's perfect. And even if you

1741
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 3: your boyfriends your perfect Mormon perfect like pristine boyfriends never

1742
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 3: did any of that shit, they've at least thought some

1743
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 3: fucked up shit. No one is perfect. Leave her alone.

1744
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 3: She's allowed to date whoever the fuck she wants. Did

1745
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 3: it ever occur to you that she doesn't owe you

1746
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: or me anything? It doesn't matter who she dates, It

1747
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what you think the person you think she

1748
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 3: should date. That she's letting her fans down by associating

1749
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 3: with someone who once liked a tweet from JK Rowling

1750
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 3: or whatever the fuck you have it in your head

1751
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 3: that she's now associated with a problematic person. And by

1752
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 3: the way, problematic is the most problematic term I've ever

1753
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 3: heard in my fucking life. Stop using problematic because it's

1754
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 3: this tenth term that you can use that can expand

1755
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 3: between liking someone's tweet of someone that once said the

1756
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 3: N word jokingly and that you're problematic because you like

1757
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 3: to tweet of theirs three years later and you don't

1758
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 3: know that three years prior they use the N word

1759
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 3: in a joke, or they sang along to a rap

1760
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 3: song once and said the N word. You're problematic for

1761
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 3: liking their tweet. So that can mean problematic that you

1762
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 3: like to tweet of someone who is problematic, or it

1763
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 3: can mean that you like career. You know, firebombed a

1764
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 3: uh a cynical marathon right Like, it's that's what problematic

1765
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 3: can be. So you can just make this blanket statement

1766
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 3: about Matt Heally being problematic. You don't know any of

1767
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 3: the facts, and when you do, they all list out

1768
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 3: like like you're just what, who do you want her

1769
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 3: to date? You know, because the Dalai Lama just made

1770
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 3: out with a kid, So anyone who seems to be

1771
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 3: so pious and pure for our dear Taylor Swift, she's

1772
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 3: allowed to date whoever she wants. You're never gonna like

1773
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 3: whoever she dates. You know why, only you know why.

1774
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 3: You're never gonna like who she dates because you want

1775
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 3: to date her because you are in love with her

1776
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 3: just like I am, and you want her to all

1777
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 3: to yourself. You know, Joe wasn't good enough for her

1778
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 3: at the beginning either, You're jealous and you're jealous, not

1779
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 3: only of the person that she's dating, because you can't

1780
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 3: have her, and you want to be Matt Heally and

1781
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 3: you can't be. No, I'm not gay, Yes you are.

1782
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 3: You're gay for Taylor. You know you are. Anyone who's

1783
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 3: getting on Reddit and going he's problematic. Here's why. Oh

1784
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 3: my god, Joe please come back and save her. Oh

1785
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 3: my god, a third plane hit the Swifty Towers. Matt

1786
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 3: Healey's at her concert. Whatever you're saying, these are the

1787
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 3: things I'm reading. You're obsessed with her. You think she

1788
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 3: owes you something. She doesn't owe you fucking anything anything.

1789
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 3: And also you're jealous because she's having fun and you're

1790
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 3: in a loveless marriage. You're in a relationship that's boring

1791
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 3: or it's love. You have lots of love. Let's say

1792
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 3: you I love my partner, Nikki. You don't know what

1793
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 3: you're talking about, okay, but it's not as exciting as

1794
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 3: the sex Taylor's having right now, and you fucking know it.

1795
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 3: And you'll never have that again because you can only

1796
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 3: have that sex in the beginning of relationship. So you

1797
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 3: see your girl out there having so much fun, and

1798
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 3: you're jealous you're jealous she's with someone else that isn't you,

1799
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 3: and you're jealous she's having fun and that in your

1800
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 3: life is miserable. And you know the person that you're

1801
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 3: with has done way more problematic things if you've comed

1802
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 3: through everything he ever tweeted, or ever said, or ever thought,

1803
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 3: just as much as Matt Heally did. Matt Healey's not

1804
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 3: a bad person. He's a guy who drank a lot

1805
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 3: and does dumb shit. He's a rock star who's been

1806
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 3: enabled by fans who love him. You would do the

1807
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 3: same shit if you were him. He's and he's apologized

1808
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 3: for everything he's done. So shut up, shut up, and

1809
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 3: just remember Taylor Swift owes you nothing. Nothing. She doesn't

1810
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 3: owe you doing a three hour concert in the rain,

1811
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 3: but she gave you that. We think that she I

1812
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 3: get under the impression that she owes me something, but

1813
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 3: she owes you nothing. She can date whoever she wants.

1814
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 3: She can date Kanye if she wants. It doesn't matter,

1815
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 3: it's not connected to her music. Chill the fuck out.

1816
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 3: And you know what, Nikki, you should chill the fuck

1817
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 3: out too. I know I'm about to stop. Okay, So

1818
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 3: thank you for listening. To the podcast. That is my

1819
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 3: final thought on Matt Healing and Taylor Swift, and that

1820
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 3: is it. Leave her alone, let her have fun. Stop

1821
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 3: being jealous. That's all for now. Thank you for this

1822
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 3: on EPI Shoe. I need to catch my fun. Have

1823
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 3: a cigarette, and uh, and don't be kiss and di

1824
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 3: di digit Just leave her alone and let her have fun.