1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird How Cinema Rewind. This is Rob 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and it's yeah, so 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: it's Weird How Cinema Rewind. This is an older episode 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: of Weird House Cinema. Uh, this is what a terminate 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Italian Terminator rip off movie that we did. Yes, basically, yeah, 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: we got some some John Saxon action in here. We've 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: got some George Eastman action in here. It's uh, it's 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff blows up. There's some arm wrestling. 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: I mean, this has it all the personable George Eastman 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: and it's an Arizona movie. So if you if you 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: haven't heard this episode, well now at the time, welcome 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: to Stuff to Blow your mind, a production of My 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird How Cinema. This is 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And today we're going 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: to be taking a look at the nineteen eight six 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: film Hands of Steel, which is an Italian Terminator clone 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: that asks the question not just cana cyborg fall in love, 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: but can a cyborg appreciate the finer points of arm wrestling? 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: That's right. This one also known as a Vendetta dal 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: futuro I guess Vendetta of the future. Uh. And then 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I've also seen it credited with another title, um um, 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: the Italian for hands of stone. Maybe that was a 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: working title. I'm not sure that many did. Pietra. Yeah, yeah, 24 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: why would it be hands of stone? This cyborg definitely 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: does not have stone in him. He has metal in him. 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: We see it up close. Now, there was a funny 27 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: thing about this. You might ask, Okay, is this movie 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: an Italian rip off of Terminator? And the answer is yes. 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: But it's more than that. It's also, as we've said, 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: it's about love and it's about arm wrestling. But I 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: would say there's a strange quality this movie has, which 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: is that it rips off movies that po to date it. 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: So when I was watching, I was thinking, it's not 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: just a rip off of Terminator, it's also in a 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: way a rip off of RoboCop. The RoboCop didn't come 36 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: out until at least a year after this movie was made, 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: and it's also kind of a rip off of Universal Soldier, 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: which didn't come out until several years after this was made. 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: So actually it's uh, it's what's the word for that? 40 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: It's almost kind of a mystical concept of like the 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: idea that predates the thing from which it is derived. Yeah, 42 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: it is is a holy artifact. This this movie. I 43 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: could I was also thinking about this when it came out, 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: because I knew that it had this arm wrestling elements. 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, this was probably also influenced by 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: Over the Top, the stallone arm wrestling movie, but that 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: didn't come out till a year after Hands of Steel, 48 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: so you see a lot of that going on in this. 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: Now to your point, it does have elements from these 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: other films. I've seen it referred to as a hybrid 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: film or even the ultimate hybrid film um, which on 52 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: one hand, yes, you do see a lot of um 53 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: uh of of borrowing of elements from other films at 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: the time, especially in Italian cinema. Uh. But then I 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: also feel like I have to cut a little slack 56 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: two films like this, because all movies are hybrid movies, 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, They're varying degrees of artfulness of doing it. 58 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of films came out influenced by Terminator. 59 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Um not all of them. Uh, we're great, but but 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: this one is not bad. I mean I enjoyed it 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: from from start to finish. It has some weird choices 62 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: in it, and uh, it's a shot almost exclusively in Arizona. 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Little known fact the state motto of Arizona the cyborg state. Yeah. Also, 64 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: one of the things about this one is a lot 65 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: of the posters for it and box art would advertise 66 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: that our hero in this is thirty percent human, se robot, 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: and a hundred percent lethal. He says that in the movie. 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Remember when there's like the reveal scene. It's a tender, 69 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: uh sort of love scene. Remember when when Linda is 70 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: like what are you and he's like, I'm thirty percent 71 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: human and seventy robot. He doesn't say the lethal part, 72 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: but but he's like, got it down to the percentages? Yeah, 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean he knows is that by weight or by volume? Um? 74 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: I guess by volume. That's why I interpreted. I was thinking, like, which, 75 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: like the different limbs and organs missing? Right though? We 76 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: never get a clear picture. I don't know. There's some 77 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: flashes of schematics and whatnot, but I don't think they 78 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: really contain that much information on this premise. I guess 79 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: now that we've said the thirty percent human robot. That 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: that's sort of already the elevator pitch from the movie, right, Like, 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: what else is there to say, except well, he's an assassin. Right? 82 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: When is this movie set. It's set in the future 83 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: of so, you know, a little over a decade into 84 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: the future. Now are past. But yeah, it's about a 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: cyborg assassin who rediscovers his humanity. Uh. Meanwhile, his murderous 86 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: hand lers pursue him across the Arizona Waste Land in 87 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: order to keep him from falling into the wrong hands 88 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: and of course getting away with his change of heart. 89 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to change your heart if you're part 90 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: of team bad Guy. That's right. Let's hear that trailer 91 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: audio seed with mission as directed, and don't let there 92 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: be any mistakes, no tra lies, no tra lies. Just 93 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: follow my orders. We won't think of my body has 94 00:05:38,920 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: been bionically reconstructed, all right? Yeah, I was. I was 95 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: instantly intrigued once I once I heard this. This is 96 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: one I had not seen before. I have just finished 97 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: watching it this morning, and uh, I remember the the 98 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: VHS box art I think, or maybe the DVD art. 99 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: It has this wonderful illustration of our lead character with 100 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: what really seems to be an arm of steel, and 101 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: so um yeah, it's uh, it's a it's a sci 102 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: fi extravaganza. So if you watch the credits for this movie, 103 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: they named the director as somebody named Martin Dolman. Now 104 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: Martin Dolman is not a real person. That is the 105 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: the pseudonym the Nomda. What's the movie version of Nomdager? 106 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: Not Nomda? Cinema of Italian director Sergio Martino, who is 107 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: famous for having directed a lot of classic, famous slush, 108 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: infamous Italian B movies and jello films. That's right. He's 109 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: noted for having said that while some directors create sparkling wine, 110 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: he creates soda pop. But at the end of the day, 111 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: he'd rather have a good soda than a bad sparkling wine. 112 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: Which I think that's a fair comparison. I mean it's 113 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I think it's up for the viewer to decide which 114 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: this is. If this is a good soda pop or 115 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: if it's a little bit flat. I don't know it. 116 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: It got the fizzy sensations going for me. But Martino, 117 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: he's he's directed all sorts of pictures. He has sixty 118 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: six credits on IMDb up through and they include spaghetti, westerns, comedies, 119 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: various genre pictures uh, and of course this one is 120 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: a sci fi action flick. Uh. I would actually say 121 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: that this movie is a room temperature can of Schwepps 122 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: ginger ale, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I mean, 123 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: it looks like it's made from all natural ingredients, though 124 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any high fruit toast corner 125 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: up in here. This This feels like it's just got sugarcane. One. 126 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: One picture from Sergio Martino that is near and dear 127 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: to my heart is Screamers from nine, which we might 128 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: in the future come back and look at in greater detail. 129 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: I owned this one on Blu Ray. Uh. I've talked 130 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: about it a little bit on the show before. It 131 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: was originally titled Island of the Fishmen, but then it 132 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: was released by Roger Corman in the in the US 133 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: with this new title and a new opening sequence featuring 134 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: Cameron Mitchell. And I think the new opening sequence sequence 135 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: was actually directed by Jim way Narski of Chopping Mall Fame. 136 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: But it's a it's a wonderful film about fish people 137 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: and treasure and Explorers in which a human being does 138 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: not turn inside out despite that being the like the 139 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: promise the on the on the poster ard and the 140 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: VHS box art for Screamers when when I was a kid. Oh, 141 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: I think that was the context in which it was 142 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: originally came up. It was like we were talking about 143 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: movies where the poster or the box and the title 144 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: give you absolutely the wrong idea about what's in the film, 145 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: like not Yeah, so Screamers as promoted by Corman and company. Yeah, 146 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: it just seemed like it was going to be a 147 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: body hard nightmare that I wanted no part of as 148 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: a child and would be you didn't reluctant to engage 149 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: in even as an adult. But really it's just a 150 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: wonderful Fishman film, and Martino directed it. Martino also directed 151 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: a number of Jealo movies. UH. If you're not very 152 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: familiar with Jealo movies, this is a term that sort 153 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: of a loose designation for uh, an Italian subgenre of 154 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: like murder mystery type movies that are that that in 155 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: a way pre date the emergence of the slasher genre 156 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: in America, where there would be like a knife wielding 157 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: killer and a number of characters who would get murdered 158 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: one by one while some characters try to figure out 159 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: what the identity of the killer is, and usually the 160 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: identity is revealed at the end and it's some kind 161 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: of bizarre twist, like, oh my god, I couldn't believe 162 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: it was that person. And so Martino has a number 163 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: of movies like this. One of the ones that stands 164 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: out in my memory is a is a weird one 165 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: called All the Colors of the Dark from nineteen seventy two. 166 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: I love the title. I've not seen it, it's been 167 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: a while, but if I recalled the story of a 168 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: woman who I think she's supposed to be Italian but 169 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: living in Great Britain, and she ends up believing she 170 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: is pursued by the members of a satanic cult. But 171 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a twist ending um now. In terms 172 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: of the writing on Arms of Steel, Martino has story credit, 173 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: but he shares screenplay credit here with five other people. 174 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to list them all, but they were 175 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: individually involved in such films as Zombie, Um, Bronx Warriors, 176 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: Missing An Action, Argo Man, The Fantastic Superman, and Devil Fish. 177 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: I think I think I've seen all of those. One 178 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: of the writers is named Elizabeth Parker Jr. Which, much 179 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: like Martin Dolman, is actually an anglicized pseudonym, this time 180 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: for Elisa Briganti, who wrote a bunch of well known 181 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Italian B movies. I think she wrote full cheese movie 182 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: Zombie and a number of gross out movies. Of of 183 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: that ilk M all right, as far as the cast 184 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: goes here, we're gonna we're gonna get to our hero, 185 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: to our cyboard. But I want to start with the 186 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: the the the uber villain of this picture, the character 187 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: Francis Turner, because he was played by John Saxon, who 188 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: lived nineteen thirty six. I think when you told me this, 189 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, John Saxon, then it can't be bad. 190 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: Yeah he is. Uh. He is a legendary American actor, 191 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: mostly appeared in in B movie or a lot of 192 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: B movies and genre pictures. Um. In this he's the 193 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: mastermind who hired the cyborg assassin and then has issues 194 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: with his job performance. He's he's very much a corporate 195 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: suit villain for the most part. In this you could 196 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: call this movie a deadly game of cat and mouse 197 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: that ultimately boils down to a performance review. Yes, yeah, 198 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: but so John Saxon is weird because he's one of 199 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: those actors who mostly did bad movies. But I do 200 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: just always kind of her cup when he shows up 201 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: in a film. I mean, he is in some great 202 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: movies too. He's an Inner the Dragon. Oh yeah, he's 203 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: uh which is you know, of course is fantastic. That's 204 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: a classic. He's in a Nightmare on elm Street, you know. 205 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: So he's in some A list films as well. But 206 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: if you scroll through his like all all the B 207 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: movies he did, you will come across a number of 208 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: huh I've never heard of that? Yeah, Like just just 209 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: to name a few in addition to the ones you 210 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: just mentioned. He was in Black Christmas, he was in 211 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: Battle Beyond the Stars, Prisoners of the Lost Universe, Beverly Hills, 212 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: Cop Three, Wes Craven's New Nightmare. I actually like that 213 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: one from dust Till Don Dario or Agento's Uh Tina 214 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: brey Um, Antonio the the Antonio Margaretti horror film Cannibal Apocalypse. 215 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: That's one that he's I think he's the star of 216 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: that one. I haven't actually gotten around to seeing that one, 217 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: but it's infamous. Uh. He was in two episodes of 218 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: Night Gallery. And he was also in another Tino film, 219 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: The Scorpion with two Tales from nine two. But but 220 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: I agree with you, even no matter what the movie is, 221 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: when Saxon shows up, I get kind of excited about 222 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: his presence, like he's a dependable actor. He's he was 223 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: never a bad actor. But it's like, um, he's kind 224 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: of like B movie royalty. It's like that Dick Miller 225 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: factor when he shows up. I wouldn't put Saxon for 226 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: me quite on the same level as Dick Miller because 227 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: at least Dick Miller is always funny. You can feel 228 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: Dick Miller, I think brings comedy two roles that even 229 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: that wouldn't be funny on the page if you just 230 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: like read the character's lines. It's not a comedic performance. 231 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: It can just be like a you know, a straightforward 232 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: minor bit part where he plays a shop owner or something. 233 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: But somehow in his delivery, Dick Miller always makes the 234 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: character funny. Yeah, whereas Saxon, it's more just knowing that 235 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: it's Saxon and knowing that he was in all these 236 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: films and that he you know, he fought alongside Bruce Lee. 237 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: You know he He's just just a legend of of 238 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: this caliber picture. All right, let's get to a hero then. Okay, 239 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: this is Paco. How do you say his last name? Yeah? Uh, 240 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: this is This character was played by Daniel Greene, who 241 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: was born in nineteen sixty and is still out there working. 242 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: So he is our oily muscled up cyborg um. Green 243 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: was on Falcon Crest back in the day. He had 244 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: small roles in various mainstream comedies such as Kingpin. Uh. 245 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: He did a lot of TV work. He's been every 246 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: everything from a police officer on Three's Company to a 247 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: hunk on Night Court and even popped up in Eastbound 248 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: and Down. So this is the guy who did a 249 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: lot of work. And he must have been Martino must 250 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: have like working with him at least, because he was 251 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: in five films from Martino overall, this one beyond Kilimanjaro, 252 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: After the Condor, The Opponent and American Rick Shaw The 253 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: Opponent by the way boxing movie. Daniel green So I 254 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: got a sense, I don't wonder what you think about this. 255 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: That often on the set they'd be setting up for 256 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: a scene and Daniel Green would start to make the 257 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: argument I think my character would be shut listen this 258 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: scene and they're kind of they're like, I don't know, 259 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: that's not in the script. And he's like, no, hear 260 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: me out right, it's hot, you know that. And he's 261 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: been working or doing this thing, and so like the 262 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: shirt would be off and they're like, okay, Daniel. Yeah, 263 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: it's hard to argue with that chest, I guess because 264 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: but in these scenes where he's shirtless, he seems more 265 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: shirtless than a normal shirtless human somehow. Maybe again just 266 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: because of his muscles, he's like one point six percent 267 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: shirtless to the to the regular one. So we'll be 268 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: talking about him a lot because he's he has a 269 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: lot of fun in this. But then, of course we 270 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: have our female lead, and that is Linda. I don't 271 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: know that Linda has a last name. H Yeah, I 272 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: don't recall if they say it, but that that goes 273 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: along with the writing for the character. Really. Um she's 274 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: played by Janet Agrin, Yeah, Swedish model turned actor who 275 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: appeared in Red Sonja as well as the Lucio fol 276 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: horror film City of the Living Dead, among many others. Yeah, 277 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: it seems like She mostly starred in various kinds of 278 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: Italian exploitation movies and horror films, and a couple of 279 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: I noticed in the list of some Z tier shark movies. 280 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: Have we've done a shark movie on weird house cinema yet? 281 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I've spent I've wasted so 282 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: many hours of my life watching terrible shark movies. I 283 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: can't believe we haven't even gotten into the shark realm 284 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: of cinema yet. Oh we should we Well, we'll have 285 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: to save that one for Shark Week, right, Oh yeah, Okay, 286 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: that's an idea. But so here's the thing I discovered 287 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: earlier today. I was trying to find out more about 288 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: Janet Agrin, and I discovered she actually had a limited 289 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: musical career, and I could only find one recording of 290 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: one song by her. It was a nineteen eighty four single, 291 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: So this movie came out in eighty six. This musical 292 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: number pre dates the film that we're talking about today. 293 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: It's a Night four single called Teddy Bear, which is 294 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: a deeply bizarre Italian disco song where the the instrumental 295 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: track on it actually somewhat whole psycho killer by the 296 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: Talking Heads but kind of but kind of popped up 297 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: so like make Psycho Killers sound a little bit more 298 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: manically happy. And then the song appears to be literally 299 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: about a Teddy Bear. The choruses Gimme, gimme Teddy Teddy, 300 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: My Teddy Bear. I don't know if something is lost 301 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: in the translation of this, but this song is just 302 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: like a doorway to untold realms of suffering. It's the 303 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: box from the Hell Raiser movies. You should look it 304 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: up and listen to it to summon the chains out 305 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: of the walls. I'll share a link to this on 306 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: the blog for this episode, but let's go ahead and 307 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: ask Seth to play the legal limit on Teddy Bear. Okay, 308 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: see see you want more, don't you do you? Okay, 309 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: keep listening, you'll get to where you'll you'll you'll be 310 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: up for that second listen. I think I ended up 311 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: listening to it twice. Pleasure and Pain in Divisible, All right, 312 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: let's let's go and talk about the character Peter Howell 313 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: in this played by Claudio Cassinelli, and this was this one. 314 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: This gets a bit tragic, but it's necessary to discuss 315 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: because he's one of our main sub villains. He lived 316 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: through five. He played Zeus in the Looferregno Hercules movie 317 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: The Adventure of Hercules, which I remember seeing as a kid, 318 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: and that's another very musclely movie. But Cassinelli sadly died 319 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: during the production of this film in a helicopter crash 320 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: uh in Arizona, I think, uh. For this reason, his 321 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: character is largely absent from the final showdown. And there's 322 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: another character played by Roberto Bisacco that fills his basically 323 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: fills in his role or his character fills in the 324 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: villain role in the early parts of the film. So 325 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: the the ultimately ultimately the finished product, you know, it 326 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: shows the sign of them having to write and film 327 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: around the fact that one of their um one of 328 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: their lead actors, died during the filming of the motion picture. Wow, 329 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: that is sad, and that that now explains things about 330 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: the plot that did not make sense to me before. 331 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: That there is a strange sort of like trade out 332 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: of characters at multiple points. Yeah, so uh said, He's 333 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: good in it, as as as is Roberto uh Bisacco, 334 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: who basically plays a similar character. But yeah, it's it 335 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: was kind of weird to watch and knowing that was 336 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: going to occur, especially when we get to the scenes 337 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: with the helicopters with the bridge, because what apparently happened 338 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: was the chopper clipped the bridge and then the chopper 339 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: plummeted four hundred feet into the Colorado River. Um. But 340 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: a constant in this though, no matter which villain character 341 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: is present, there's this guy with round sunglasses. Yes. Um. 342 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure who play who this character is 343 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: or who plays him. I I spent a lot of 344 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: time looking at the IMDb list for this movie and 345 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: it seemed impossibly short for the numb of humans that 346 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: are actually in the film. It's possibly this guy Andrea Coppola, 347 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. I don't even recall if we 348 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: learned this character's name. He's just the bet the hinchman 349 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: with sunglasses who's there in every scene with the bad guys. Yeah, 350 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: so he has a lot of screen time for an 351 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: actor that I couldn't quite pinpoint now. And now a 352 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: sub villain of note in this film is the character 353 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 1: of Rale Moralists, who's a what would you call him? 354 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: A trucker? A mean trucker. He is a bad trucker 355 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: that this movie has a number of bad truckers and 356 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: it and some good truckers. I mean, it runs the 357 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: gamut of of trucker morality. You get a real stand 358 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: up trucker who shows up in the ending sequence. But 359 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: some of the truckers we meet early on are aggressive, loudish, 360 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: no good dudes. And George Eastman plays Raoul. They're the 361 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: leader of the bad truckers. Yes, George Eastman speaking of 362 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: of like a treasured trading card, of of of somebody's 363 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: or at least I spot in the film, and and 364 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: and instantly I'm I'm hooked. Uh, this is this is 365 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: big George Eastman. This is uh, this is a guy 366 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: that pops up in a number of B B two 367 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: z uh films from Italy from this time period. Have 368 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: you seen George Eastman in a film before it? Was 369 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: this your first time? Joe? Oh, I know I have, 370 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: but I don't remember which one. Uh, well, you know what, 371 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: I bet I've probably seen him in at least parts 372 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: of movies that I've never watched the whole thing of. 373 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: Like I know, I've watched part of anthropop Vegas but 374 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: did not complete it. Oh okay, well, yeah, we'll get 375 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: to that one a second. I completed it. Uh, it was. 376 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: It was a journey. But so he's Eastman is always 377 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: memorable because he's one of those character actors that has 378 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: just such a distinctive look. Uh. He has this physicality uh, 379 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: and just a knack for playing crazy. It's like any 380 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. Didn't always play crazy over the top characters, 381 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: but when he does, he's memorable. Um and uh, yeah, 382 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: he's an interesting character. He was born Luigi Montefiori. He's 383 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: sometimes credited under that name, sometimes credited as various other names, 384 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 1: but the name George Eastman shall be the one written 385 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: forever in B movie lore. And it's easy to see 386 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: why he got a lot of work, first in spaghetti 387 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: westerns and then in various genre pictures because in his prime, 388 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: this man was a little over six six, and I've 389 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: seen him. I've seen him promoted as being six nine, 390 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: which makes me think six six is probably accurate, because 391 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: you tend up to build your big men as being 392 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: even bigger than they are. He is a big dude. 393 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: I think he's even like the lead guy in this movie, 394 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Green, is very he's a very large guy, but 395 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Eastman is taller than him. I think, yeah, Yeah, he 396 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: seems to tower over everybody in the film. Um, he 397 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: was lean but muscular, and he often spouted this impressive beard. 398 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: So he's one of these guys you see just other 399 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: you see some pictures of him, you'll be like, Okay, 400 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: he's handsome, sure, but then you see eyes as you 401 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: see these images where he's like really making crazy eyes, 402 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: or he's grinning with these enormous He's got this enormous, 403 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: like perfect grin, but it's just a little too wide, 404 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: like it's the grin of Satan. So he's always a 405 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Sometimes he plays non villains, but he 406 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: tends to excel at playing dirt bags, warlords, monsters, and 407 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: he's played some notable examples of all of those. For example, 408 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: he was in in Zo g castarelli three post apocalyptic 409 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: film Warriors of the Waste Land, playing the post apocalyptic 410 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: leader one. He was again in the Joe Diarmato low 411 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: budget monster slash slasher film and Thropophagus from nineteen eighty 412 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: and Absurd from eight one. Uh So in these movies 413 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: he plays essentially the same character, an insane killer with 414 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: a mutant healing factor. Uh they're very low budget, only 415 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: loosely connected. Uh. In the first one, he's this grotesque 416 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: cannibal monster in class Wartmann who's kind of uh oh, 417 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: what was the character in Dante's Inferno who goes mad 418 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: because he had to eat his Emily? Oh? Well, I 419 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: can't remember which one it is, but it's Ugolino and 420 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: Ruggieri there together in the very lowest layer of hell, 421 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: those who like betrayed can I think or something or 422 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: betrayed betrayed people. It was like the worst kind of 423 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: betrayal as imagined by Dante. And they're like frozen in 424 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: ice together right at the bottom of hell before you 425 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: get to Satan himself. And it's Count Ugolino and Archbishop Ruggieri, 426 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: I think, and one of them is just gnawing on 427 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: the other one's head like it's a ham. Yeah. So 428 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: it's that energy without any of that um uh, without 429 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: any of that depth. Uh. But it's like, I think 430 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: he's supposed to have been a guy who in his 431 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: family who were shipwrecked on this Greek island, and then 432 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: he had to eat them and it drew drove in 433 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: mad and so now he's just a cannibal wild man 434 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: who kills and eats anybody who shows up to vacation there. Uh. 435 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: He dies at the end, and the memorable scene is 436 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: that he's disemboweled and then he pulls out some of 437 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: his own intestines and starts chewing on them. Um, so 438 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's a notoriously grizzly scene and 439 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: um and otherwise it kind of I guess, slow film, 440 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: but it's one of those where kind of like Texas 441 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: Chainsaw Masker, where the the film quality is such that 442 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: everything feels slightly more real because it feels like you're watching, um, 443 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: like a documentary footage or something. Yeah. Yeah, Eastman, I 444 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: would say, generally exists at the nexus of a lot 445 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: of really gross movies. Yeah. Uh. They did a sequel again, 446 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: titled Absurd, and apparently the story on this was like 447 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: they're they're like, okay, we made money off of this 448 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: first one. It was actually a hit, so we're gonna 449 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: do a sequel, and Easton was like, I don't know, 450 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: and they're like and then and then Jodi Amat is like, 451 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: here's the script, and Eastman's like, yash. So Eastman rewrites 452 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: it and it's essentially a Halloween clone. Uh, but it 453 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: has some memorable scenes in it, and his character in 454 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: that is named Mikos, and it's a little more pronounced 455 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: that he has some sort of mutant healing factor. But 456 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: in that that one, he doesn't have any makeup. It's 457 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: just straight Eastman crazy face, which I think is one 458 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: of the appeals of character actors like Eastman, because in 459 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: a film that can't really afford any kind of special makeup, 460 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: special makeup effects, Eastman's face is the special effect you know. Oh, yeah, 461 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Uh. He was also in 462 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: n The Bronx Warriors nineteen after the Fall of New 463 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: York blast Fighter Rabid Dogs. He was in the seven 464 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: Barbarian Twins movie The Barbarians that I haven't seen yet, 465 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: but but I know you purchased for us, Joe. Oh 466 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: that's right, I forgot I had that. Well, that came 467 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: on like a double featured disc that I got with 468 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: some other B movie I've forgotten. Now I'll have to 469 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: go check in a bit. But yeah, you know, I 470 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: love my leather diaper Barbarian movies, and this this appears 471 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: to be a two diaper affair. Um. So one thing 472 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: that I love is that that Joe Eastman is in 473 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: all of this just righteous garbage. Uh. And yet a 474 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: number of Sunday school classes may have glimpsed Eastman when 475 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: they watched Richard Gere uh as King David in n 476 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: five movie King David. This is the one that that 477 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: had gear and then uh also had Edward Woodward in 478 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: it as King Saul Um, but in it, of course 479 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: as a King David movie. So you're gonna encounter at 480 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: least some flashbacks of David and Goliath. Who's Goliath. It's 481 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: George Eastman. Oh okay, yeah, that makes sense now. Um. 482 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: Eastman worked a lot with the Joe Diamato. They created 483 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: some against them, just really trashy films with each other. 484 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: But not only as an actor for Eastman, but also 485 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: as a writer. Uh. It turns out he did it 486 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: to in the Italian National Film School, and I guess 487 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: he was. I haven't seen any of I think any 488 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: of these later works, but he worked mostly as a 489 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: screenwriter for Italian television from the early nineteen nineties onward. Uh. 490 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: And he directed a couple of films as well, or well, 491 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: I think he stepped in and like did some scenes 492 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: on a couple of films, but there's only one that 493 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: he wrote and directed, and that's a nineteen nine mad 494 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: science horror film titled Metamorphosis, which I haven't seen it 495 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: in his entirety. I think that's when I started watching 496 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: late at night once and had to go to sleep instead. 497 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: And you have not resumed the journey since. No, But 498 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: now I want to know. I'm like, I want to 499 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: see see what he brought to the table on that. 500 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, George Eastman always a treat when he pops up. 501 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: But also I guess when Eastern pops up. You also 502 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: have to question should I be watching this? Uh? See 503 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: other actors. Donald O'Brien is in it, playing Professor Ulster, 504 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: a short role. He was born in nineteen thirties a 505 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: French actor. Interestingly enough, he played to the character Petro, 506 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: who I don't really remember from the six film adaptation 507 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: of the Name of the Rose, but b horror fans 508 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: probably know him better as the titular Dr butcher m 509 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: D from Zombie Holocaust, which was also promoted as Dr 510 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: butcher m D. I'm not familiar. Oh, I I don't 511 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: think I've actually seen it, but I'm I'm familiar with 512 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: it by reputation. Uh so, Uh, it's it's sort of 513 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: on the list, I guess, just because I like the 514 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: idea of there being a doctor Butcher m d. But 515 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: then again, Butcher's not that uncommon of a last name, 516 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: so there have to be some Dr Butcher m d 517 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: S out there. So we know that George Eastman plays 518 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: the bad trucker in the movie, but there's also a 519 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: trucker who turns out to be a good trucker, and 520 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: that is the arm wrestling champion Blanco. Yeah, Blanco seems 521 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: to be the regional arm wrestling champ played by a 522 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: guy named Darwin Swalve who lived American Broadway actor who 523 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: played a heavy and a number of notable films because 524 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: he's just kind of like this big bulldog of a guy. Uh. 525 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: He was in Police Academy six, Heartbreak Ridge, Summer School Cry, Wilderness, 526 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: which is a terrible bigfoot movie. But he played a 527 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: wrestler in Barton Fink. Oh did he play Wallace Bury 528 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: in that? Uh? He's just credited as being wrestler, so 529 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: he might be the other wrestler in Barton Fink. I 530 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: don't specifically remember him. Now. One of the big connections 531 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: with this film is with the music, because this movie 532 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: has a score by Claudio Simonetti. Yeah, talk to talk 533 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: about legends. One of the biggest names on this picture 534 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: for sure. No notable for his his solo work, but 535 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: also his work as part of Goblin. Um. His electronic 536 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: and prague rock scores helped many an Italian genre film 537 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: to come to life, oftentimes more so at least I 538 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: don't know, and I think many people have been come 539 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: to life more than they would have with with any 540 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: other music. Um, and also the work of Seminettie and Goblin. 541 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: It ultimately influenced and inspired an entire generation of electronic artists. 542 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: Seeing Goblin in concert is is a real treat. And 543 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: I've seen Goblin in concert twice. These are really good shows. Uh. 544 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: They tended to be sort of split half and half 545 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: between stuff based on movie themes, so they do like 546 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: a I don't know what felt like a kind of 547 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: weird improvisation based on the score to Tenebrae or or 548 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: one of the other Dario Argento movies that they did 549 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: the score to. Those are some of their best scores. 550 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: But then also there would just be like Italian Prague 551 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: rock with shredding synth saxophone. Yeah, um, it's a it's 552 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: a it's a definite sound. Again, it's it's It's been 553 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: very influential. I would say probably some of the best 554 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: scores and the best known scores that he worked on 555 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: were Uh, Suspiria, Deep Red, Um, Tenner Brey. I'm also 556 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: extremely partial to his work on Warries of the Wasteland, 557 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: which I mentioned earlier from nine three Um but it's um. 558 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: And I guess another thing I love about Claudio Simonetti 559 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: in Goblin is that this means the music that has 560 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of become Halloween music. I feel like increasingly, I 561 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: don't know, at least in the circles I moved through, 562 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: Like if you see a Halloween playlist, you're gonna get 563 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: some of Semonetti's sound. And I think that I love 564 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: Monster Mash, but I far prefer a great synth score. Yeah, 565 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: me too. So one thing that I would like to 566 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: point out about the music in this movie is that 567 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: I feel like the score of Hands of Steel is 568 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: very funny, but not because it's bad, like it's it's 569 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: it's a good type of whatever. This type of score 570 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: is mean in some ways, it's uh, it's sort of 571 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: a terminator score rip off, but it's also got the 572 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: great original Claudio Seminetti magic. And what's funny about it 573 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: is the way that it sometimes kicks in with a 574 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: sudden transition or cut in what's happening on screen. So 575 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: there's one example that you might recall. Uh, there's a 576 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: scene where I think there's no music in the background 577 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: at all, and it's just it's just our our protagonist, 578 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: our borg man sort of haggling with a junk car 579 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: dealer about whether or not to get a car. And 580 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: it's a slow moving scene and they're just talking about like, oh, yeah, 581 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: i'll give you that car for I'll give you give 582 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: it to you for two hundred extra bucks. And he's 583 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: like deal, okay, no music in the background, very calm, 584 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: and then just slam cuts to him driving on the 585 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: highway and it's like, yeah, I love it. Well, let's 586 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and see if we can get SETH 587 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: to give us the legal limit on the On one 588 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: of the tracks from this soundtrack, this is the that 589 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: the track titled Atomic Arm. All right, I have to 590 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: say if you if you love that and I I 591 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: loved it, then you can stream or buy Uh. Seminetti's 592 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: soundtrack for Hands of Steel on band Camp. It's on there, 593 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: published under Italy's rust Blade Records, and you can even 594 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: get it get a physical version on silver vinyl. And 595 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: this I was checking, this was just released last month, 596 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: so um that what luck. You'd think they sponsored this, 597 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: but they did not, because we did not get Silver 598 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: records in payment. How did you find this movie? By 599 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: the way, I just wanted something Italian, uh, you know? 600 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: And I started looking around and I wanted something that 601 00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: what that wasn't like to ums Italian horror movies A yeah, 602 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: or you know, I didn't want. I didn't want something 603 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: too boring either, and so this seemed to be like 604 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: Dead Center. This seemed to be like the good Punching Zone. 605 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: This is a good find, alright, So I guess it's 606 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: time to start breaking into the plot of this baby. 607 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you had the same association I 608 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: did with the very beginning, the very beginning of the 609 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: opening credit montage, because what I immediately felt I was 610 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: watching at the very very beginning before the music changed, 611 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: was an industrial dystopian take on the opening credits of 612 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: Twin Peaks, though once again this predated Twin Peaks. Huh. No, 613 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: I didn't get the Twin Peaks note so much. But 614 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, it starts setting the stage for some sort 615 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: of just near future dystopia, some hell City in the background, 616 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: but would not really go into hell City so much 617 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: because most of the seems to take place either on 618 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: the outskirts of of Hell City or more specifically, out 619 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Yeah, it's only hell City for a few 620 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: minutes at the beginning, but no, I'm gonna hammer like 621 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: if you watch it again. At the very beginning, there's 622 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: this dreamy, almost Angelo Bottle of Mine type music sort 623 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: of sort of floating along over shots of drab urban 624 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: alleyways flooded with fog and oil refineries just belching smoke 625 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: and flames into the atmosphere. People just generally having a 626 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: hard time. It's showing you, like a lot of people 627 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: appearing to suffer. And then suddenly the soundtrack just shifts 628 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: into high gear from out of nowhere. The drums, bass, 629 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: and saxophone come along and it's clear that Nope, this 630 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: is going to be a NonStop thrill ride. This is 631 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: not a dream. You walk through Twin Peaks. One of 632 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: the funny things we see during the opening credit spontages 633 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: is showing you these scenes from like you know, blasted 634 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: industrial landscape and and uh in a dystopian city. But 635 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: it also keep showing these posters and banners with a 636 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: slogan that says you have no future and what appears 637 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 1: to be a guy who says that like a guy 638 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: pointing a finger, the guy with a white beard. I 639 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: think we're going to find out who this guy is 640 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: in a minute, and it's this dude named Reverend Moseley. 641 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: But I was just thinking, like, so, how did this 642 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: guy get so popular with the message, like bringing his 643 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: you have no future message to the nation tonight? Yeah, 644 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if something's lost 645 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: in translation there or um if it's more of a 646 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: situation where there's more to it, like you have no 647 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: future under the current administration. I think that's what it's 648 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be. I think he's saying, like things are bad, 649 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: you need to take control of your life. But I 650 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: just don't think you have no future is a good 651 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: way to message that. No, I mean I don't. I 652 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to wear that on a on a button, right, 653 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 1: But I guess so we we pretty soon meet this guy, 654 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: the old guy with the White Beard. He is this 655 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: guy named Arthur Moseley, Reverend Arthur Moseley, who seems to 656 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: be talking about his message seems to be an ecological one, 657 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: like he's talking about pollution and how industry is destroyed 658 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: this world and air pollution is killing people. And we 659 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: see him in the headquarters that's set up in like 660 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: a seedy hotel where he's got assistants who are helping 661 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: him out and talking with the police about how he 662 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: needs protection. And then there's a great piece of futuristic 663 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: technology in here where you see Mosley speaking into a 664 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: word processor that takes voice dictation. So we got that 665 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: on one hand, Mosley and all his friends and the 666 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: police who seemed to be like, whoa, you know, the 667 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: people want you dead. We gotta we gotta help protect you. 668 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: And then on the other hand we meet Turbolog. This 669 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: is the protagonist of the film. He when we first 670 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: meet him, he's driving a red muscle car and he's 671 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: just this this gentleman of beef who gets his own 672 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: high octane soundtrack. Yet again of those transitions, like when 673 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: it cuts to him immediately new music, really driving forward, 674 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: heavy beat. Yeah, I mean, you gotta get that electronic 675 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: in there. You gotta have your music be at least electronic, 676 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: because he's seventy electronics. Oh that's a good point. And 677 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 1: so we see him come into the same hotel where 678 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: Mosley and his people are hanging out, and as he's 679 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: moving around in the hotel, I gotta say, Claudio, we 680 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: know you do great work, but some of the music 681 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: in this sequence in particular, is as close as you 682 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: can get to the Terminator soundtrack without a lawsuit. It 683 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: was really on the nose. But anyway, we see Daniel Green, 684 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: the Gentleman of Beef, coming back to his apartment and 685 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: it's it seems to be on the floor below where 686 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: the anti pollution guy is, and so he's wandering around 687 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: his apartment. We also see another piece of great future technology, 688 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: which is the the Cyborgs watch, which is just like 689 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: a digital watch, but it's I guess it's got a 690 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: calculator on it. Maybe this was an early time for that, 691 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: I get. I mean, at the time, this is probably 692 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: a super advanced watch. But it's got like a an 693 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: l C D display. I mean, it's it's really special. 694 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: But so we see him in his apartment and he's 695 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: got mustard in his apartment. I want to know that 696 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: this is a store mustard at room temperature guy, because 697 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: it's just sitting on the kitchen table, not in the fridge. 698 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: And we watch him take a shirtless nap, and we 699 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: watched the sunlight glinting off of his well oiled body, 700 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's like shining in beams off of his 701 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: packs in the side of his face. And then he 702 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: starts getting visions of faces and voices. Right there's this 703 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: David Strathern looking guy who suddenly pops up in in 704 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: the cyborgs head and tells him to proceed with mission 705 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: as directed and don't let there be any mistakes. And 706 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: this part I found very funny because we see the 707 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: beefy guy begin to obey the messages, like he leaves 708 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: his apartment and he's got these cold, dead eyes as 709 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: he's walking up the stairs. But then you also kind 710 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: of hear the the David Strauther and looking guy his 711 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 1: voice in the background, still talking, but it's quieter, saying 712 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: like neutralize, Did I say neutralized? Neutralize? That's part of 713 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: the problem. You need to be really firm with these instructions. 714 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: But so he goes up and he does an attack 715 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: on Mosley's headquarters. Right, he kicks in the door and 716 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: he's clearly there on a on a on a deadly mission. Yeah, 717 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: and he takes out like a security guy or an 718 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 1: assistant an aid with one of the most ridiculous, um 719 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: martial arts maneuvers I have ever seen. Uh, it is 720 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: such a weird, weird attack that I have to if 721 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, I have to explain it to you. So, 722 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: if you were to cross your arms on your chest 723 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: like you've been mummified, and then you're to lash outward 724 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: so that your arms close like a pair of scissors, 725 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: presumably around the victim's head, but do so so that 726 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: you are you are smacking them with the backs of 727 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: both hands. It's a double backhand. Yeah, but it's it's 728 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: so weird because this can't possibly work. Like I'm not 729 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: a martial artist. Again, I should stress um, but this 730 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it would be effective even if you 731 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 1: had cyborg arms of steel. It's just I just can't 732 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: imagine how this would help generate any kind of force 733 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: or even that much surprise. Why do you need surprise? 734 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: You're a cyborg with arms of steel? Oh? Who made 735 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: you the expert on cyborg martial arts. What I would 736 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: just like to point out is that he kills this 737 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 1: dude with the arm crossing dance move that Elizabeth Berkeley 738 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: does in Show Girls. Yeah, yeah, it is. It is 739 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: like that. Um. I mean there are some like pro 740 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: wrestling and even martial arts moves uh that have like 741 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: a double arm attack, like I guess the most one 742 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: of the most famous ones would be the double ear 743 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: clap double ear slap rather where you like, you know, 744 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: you slap the ears with both arms with both hands 745 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: at the same time. And there's like a work version 746 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: of that as well. There's also the dreaded Mongolian chop, 747 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: which is like doing to twin karate chops to like 748 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: the side of the neck or the shoulders at the 749 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: same time. And those make sense. They're you know, they 750 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: have impact to them, and you can also say, well, 751 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: they're you know, they're especially with the Mongolian chop. It's 752 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: a little theatrical and maybe surprising to an opponent, but 753 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this. I've never seen the 754 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: Paco Special before and I don't know if I'll ever 755 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: see it again, but it's it's beautiful in its absurdity. 756 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: Do we know who did the martial arts choreography in 757 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: this movie? I don't know. We should, we should, maybe 758 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: I'll look that up after the fact that it's interesting, 759 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: I'll report back. But it's not like the four The 760 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: fight choreography is bad in this There's some fun stuff, 761 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: especially later in the picture, uh, which we'll get to 762 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: in a bit. It's just that this was creative to 763 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 1: a degree that is just unbelievable. Like I applaud it though, 764 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, because he could have just punched them and 765 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be talking about it. He did this ridiculous 766 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: thing and it made the film more joyful. No, of course. 767 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: So he does that move to the assistant, and then 768 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: he moves on into the next room, and his target 769 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: is in the next room. His target is the the 770 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 1: old guy with the beard, Arthur Moseley. And I believe 771 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: Arthur Moseley is supposed to be blind, right, so he 772 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: doesn't recognize what he looks like, but he just senses 773 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: his presence and he says, you've come here to kill me, 774 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: haven't you. But I'll but you'll never kill the work 775 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: I have begun. Well, go ahead and do it. And 776 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: so Daniel Greene starts hearing the voice in his head 777 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: against a neutralize neutralize, and then I swear what it 778 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: looks like happens next is that he kicks him in 779 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: the groin to death. Yeah, and the old man's like, 780 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and and that's it. But yeah, you don't 781 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: see him make any contact with him. You have like 782 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: a like a point of view from the old man 783 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: of him attacking. So it Yeah, when I watched it, 784 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess, I guess he kicked him in 785 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: the groin, which is a weird choice, especially, I mean, 786 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's in line with someone who does that 787 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: weird hand shoppy thing from the previous scene. I don't know. Now, 788 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: the movie makes clear later on that this is not 789 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: what happens. It's supposed to be that he just punched 790 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: him really fast in a way that's like not humanly possible, 791 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: but that that's not what it looks like at all. Right, Yeah, 792 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: so it's it's weird to watch, for sure. But so 793 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: Cyberlug escapes out the window, he escapes into the sewer, 794 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: and then it's not really a sewer, it's just like 795 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: a whole way under the street with a gauntlet of 796 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: eternally sparking high voltage cables on each side, and they 797 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: at some point I think the police look down there 798 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: and they're like, no, no human being could get through here. 799 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: That's a clue. Um. And then we see him escape 800 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: in a futuristic car, which is just some eighties car 801 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: with extra stuff glued to the back of it. It's 802 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: got some pipes and bars on the on the hatch. Yeah. 803 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't afford the full free jag, 804 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 1: this is the way to go. Yeah. Uh. And then 805 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: there's one sequence I really loved, which is like he 806 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: drives into a forest. It's this pine forest that has 807 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: a sign in front of it. This says warning acid 808 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: rain ahead. Yeah. I love this. Love this part as 809 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: well because you know, it brings back headlines from that 810 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: time period about acid rain. And then the idea it's 811 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: a nice world, be a building. You know, this is 812 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: a place that's the world that's ravaged by pollution, that 813 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: mostly is trying to fight and our hero has to 814 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: drive through a bunch of of acid rains. Sadly, when 815 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: he gets to the other side, we don't have like 816 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 1: that cartoon moment where the car has been just melted 817 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: away to nothingness. But but you do smoking, right, you 818 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: do see it coming through. At one point, he's driving 819 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: through and it's dripping through the ceiling of the into 820 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: the cabin and it's like burning the seat next to him. 821 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: But he's fine. I guess I wonder why it could be. 822 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 1: It's almost as if he's not destructible by the normal 823 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: means of harming a man. Uh. But so anyway, you 824 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: have the acid rain. And I love also the idea 825 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: that acid rain would be a constant, localized hazard in 826 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: this world. So it's not like there are clouds that 827 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 1: float around and could rain down acid in multiple places. 828 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,439 Speaker 1: It's just like, here's one area where the road goes 829 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: under acid rain, and you can put a sign there. 830 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: I like it's very folkloric, right, It's like the Haunted 831 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: Woods or something. Yes, Humbaba's seven acid terrors. He takes 832 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: them off one at a time and rains them down 833 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,479 Speaker 1: on the car. Oh. And then we also we find out, 834 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: despite the fact that it looked like the old guy 835 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: Mosley got killed by the kick, in fact he is 836 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: still alive. And they wheel him out on a stretcher 837 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: and they take him to the hospital. Uh. And then 838 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: we get to meet the bad guys. We go into 839 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: the belly of the beast. We're in some kind of 840 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: evil bunker where we see the indoctrination voice guy, you know, 841 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 1: Mr Neutralize, and he is hanging out with round sunglasses 842 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: guy who we mentioned earlier, and they're trying to figure 843 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: out what went wrong with the assassination. Why was Mosley 844 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: not killed like he was supposed to be. And so 845 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: they start looking up digital files on the on the cyberlug, 846 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: and we find out Neutralized guys called Cooper and uh 847 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 1: and I love these screens they pull up. I attached 848 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: a couple of shots I took of these screens. Rob 849 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: One is just a picture of Annual Green's face and 850 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: it says negative characteristics Colon Nune. But we also learned 851 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 1: things about him. We learned that his name is his 852 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: real name is poco Quiak, that he's from Page, Arizona, 853 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: that that his instructor was this guy Cooper, who's you know, 854 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: the Mr Neutralized, the guy talking in his head. He 855 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: was trained for thirteen months at Fort Bragg. He was 856 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: tested on August twelve, and then I think they couldn't 857 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: fit the rest of the screens they had already cycled 858 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: through into this summary screen. So what was supposed to say, 859 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: like efficiency maximum lethality, maximum negative characteristics none, but instead 860 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: they just shortened that to efficiency characteristics colon none. This 861 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: is this is not good design, folks. People will be 862 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: able to pause the movie in the future. Yes, Now, 863 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: the Page Arizona that is worth noting because it was 864 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: filmed A lot of it was filmed in Page Arizona. 865 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: So if we have any listeners out there who have 866 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 1: been to Paige Arizona or live in Page Arizona, are 867 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: you listening to the show in Page Arizona right now? 868 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: Let us know. So eventually we meet John Saxon and 869 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: he he's the big boss of the bad guys. He 870 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: is maximum suit and he's supposed to be some kind 871 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: of vicious corporate overlord. They're not really specific. I think 872 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 1: the issue is that he's an evil, uh, polluting corporate 873 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: guy and Mosley has been saying pollution is bad and 874 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 1: that can't be tolerated, so he has to kill him. 875 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: But his name is is Mr Turner, Francis Turner, and 876 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: uh he says, okay, we've got to find Paco Querrak 877 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: before the FBI does, and so he sends his guys 878 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: off to to do that. Now, now we cut back 879 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 1: to Paco on his on his journey through the desert 880 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: and one of the fun So there's a number of things. 881 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: He's cruising along the desert highway in the dark. Uh. 882 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: We we've seen that he's been through the acid rain area. 883 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: The acid rain leaked through the ceiling and was burning 884 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: the inside of the car. But also we see in 885 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: his car he has a TV embedded in the dashboard. 886 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: It's sort of down near the gear shift, which is 887 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: just amazing future car design? Are they? Are they doing 888 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 1: that now? Are they making cars that have a TV 889 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: in the dashboard? Surely if it's closer to the windshield 890 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: at least Yeah, I think it's at least higher up. 891 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: I don't have one, but you you see him. You 892 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: see cars around that have some sort of enormous screen there. 893 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 1: I guess it has like it's maybe supposed to have 894 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 1: a bunch of like road data on there. But I'm 895 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,919 Speaker 1: but it's I don't know. It looks like a TV 896 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,240 Speaker 1: to me. Sure you can hack it to watch Hands 897 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: of Steel on it while you're supposed to be driving. 898 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, driving is boring. You know, you gotta you 899 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: gotta have something to pay attention to while you're doing it. 900 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 1: P s A. Keep your eyes on the road, folks 901 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: don't want Do not watch movies while drive, at least 902 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,240 Speaker 1: do not. But then we get the car trading scene 903 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: I already mentioned earlier with the funny musical transition out 904 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 1: of it. He trades cars, I think because he's trying 905 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: to throw the people tracking him off the trail, and 906 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: uh and so Paco. Then he discards the second car 907 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: that he got and he like drives it off a 908 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 1: cliff and then just starts hoofing it through the desert. 909 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 1: He's just walking through the bad lands and eventually comes 910 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: upon a highway motel that's going to be sort of 911 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: the home base for the rest of the movie. It's 912 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: called the Champions Oasis. As soon as he goes inside, 913 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: he notices that it is a mess. There are beer 914 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: bottles all over the place. There is rotten bacon on 915 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 1: the counter with earwigs crawling around on it, which was 916 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: a good touch. And I noticed something else about this place. 917 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: It's similar to the interiors in Terry Gilliam's dystopian movie Brazil, 918 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 1: in that there are just ducks everywhere, you know, snaking 919 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: from wall to ceiling in every direction for no apparent reason. 920 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: Though I think in in Brazil like that, there's supposed 921 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: to be some satirical value to that set choice. It 922 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: like it like in a way, it symbolizes that this 923 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: is a society that is extremely complicated, but nobody knows 924 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: how anything works or why anything is happening the way 925 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: it is. In this movie, it just seems to be like, 926 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 1: let's let's make this roadside bar look a little more futuristic. Yeah, 927 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: just throwing some ducks. You can get some ducts that 928 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: your your local hardware store, but and it'll look like 929 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: the future. And the thing is this is accurate because 930 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: it it kind of foretells the the office design choice 931 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: that would become fashionable in the decades to follow, where 932 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 1: instead of having uh, you know, the white tiles covering 933 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: up your duckt work, you have exposed duck work so 934 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: you can just which I mean. I like, I've been 935 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: in a couple of offices now that have that design 936 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: and it is kind of neat to stare up and wonder, Okay, 937 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: I see how all the air conditioning connects. I see 938 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: some weird. Um you know, keys and knobs and whatnot 939 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: and the that are I guess supposed to be accessed 940 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: by professionals. Uh so in a way, Yeah, this this 941 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: design is accurate. Champions Oasis has original brickwork. Yeah, no, 942 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: it actually doesn't. It's all like wood paneling. What do 943 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: you call that? Like really thin wood paneling that goes 944 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: over the walls. Oh yeah, yeah, it does look like 945 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: wood paneling. It looks, it looks. It does look just 946 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: authentically um gross, Like they found an actual gross bar 947 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 1: and they just threw up some ducts and uh and 948 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: started shooting. Oh. Another thing, I took a screen capture 949 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: of this because I noticed on the inside of the 950 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 1: door leading into the Champions Oasis is Garfield. It's just 951 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: a poster of Garfield says have a nice day, So 952 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: Garfield exists in this film's reality canon like that. Also 953 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: really funny detail was the full exchange that is the 954 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: very first meeting of the two main characters of this movie. 955 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: Janet Agrin walks out as as Paco comes into the place, 956 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: and she says, can I help you? He says, I'm 957 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: looking for a place to stay. She says, come in 958 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: you ever Arm wrestle. He says no, Well, because we 959 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: find out that is what this community lives for. They 960 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: are all about the arm wrestling. It's the the only institution, 961 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: aside from drinking, that that is holding everyone together. That's right. 962 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: This humble desert motel is a sort of an innocent 963 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: oasis of arm wrestling in this otherwise messed up world. Now, 964 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: of course they start arguing over whether he can stay 965 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: there at the hotel because does he have money? No, 966 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't. I think. He says he can do work, 967 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: but she says something cynical about that, and then we 968 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: cut to uh, some stuff the bad guys are doing. 969 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,280 Speaker 1: So the bad guys go and they end up intimidating 970 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: this scientist who I think helped create cyborgs and there 971 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 1: and they're threatening his work that he's like, do whatever 972 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 1: you want to me. You can't, you know, you won't 973 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: get information out of me about how to catch this 974 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: cyborg because you're trying to use cyborgs for evil. And 975 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: they're like, well what if I do this? And they 976 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 1: just start smashing his stuff in his lab and he's like, no, 977 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: my precious work. So he gives them a clue. He 978 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 1: reveals that maybe the reason that Paco did not complete 979 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: his mission is that he malfunctioned because of memories of 980 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: his past, his childhood in Arizona. And they're like, oh, great, 981 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: that's what we need. And then they shoot him. And 982 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 1: then it's a double double cross and Sunglasses guy shoots Cooper, 983 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: the main guy who did the indoctrination, yeah, which which 984 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 1: in a way works as a nice little twist in 985 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 1: the film. It kind of drives home that ultimately Turner 986 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: is so evil that he's just that everybody's disposable, you know, 987 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: even the guy that seems to be his second in 988 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 1: command uh here, or at least his main guy on 989 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 1: the case. Uh and he'll do him in as well. 990 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 1: But out of film. I suspect that these scenes were 991 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: shot later in the production, after Claudio Cassinelli had died. 992 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: And you know, so again this is that the situation 993 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,760 Speaker 1: where Claudio Cassinelli, I'm guessing, was supposed to be central 994 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: here and more tied into the ending of the film, 995 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: But since he in that tragic crash, they had to 996 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: write and film around that. I think that makes sense. 997 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: Now we go back to Paco and Linda, the the 998 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: manager of the oasis, and they're there. I guess they've 999 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: already resolved whatever their original conflict was, because he's like, 1000 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,439 Speaker 1: it's okay, he's staying there now. And he's like, why 1001 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: did you let me stay? And she gives the backstory. 1002 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: She goes, who knows, maybe the memory of the girl 1003 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: who showed up afraid and broke thirteen years ago, lost 1004 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,479 Speaker 1: and now where to stay, or maybe it's because there's 1005 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,720 Speaker 1: a whole lot of wood out there that needs chopping. 1006 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: Uh so, And I guess this is the implication is, Look, 1007 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: this guy's got big muscly arms. He can be put 1008 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: to good use chopping wood. And he brings up the question, Uh, 1009 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: do people still use wood? I didn't know people still 1010 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: used wood? And she says yes, especially since the ecological 1011 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: movement led by Reverend mose Lee. And I'm very confused here. 1012 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 1: So it seems that the anti pollution guy is causing 1013 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: people to burn more wood. Yeah, it does. It does 1014 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 1: seem weird. I guess they were burning worse things than 1015 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: would um stop heating your house by burning tires. Yeah, 1016 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: But then also there's the question, It's like, what would 1017 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: are you about to send him out to chop in 1018 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 1: the middle of Arizona, no trees anywhere around. And then 1019 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: when we see it the woodpile by the way, it 1020 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: just looks like a giant pile of garbage there is, 1021 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: they're tires and stuff in it. It doesn't seem to 1022 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: be primarily made of wood, though when he's done with 1023 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 1: the job, we do see it is mostly would but uh, 1024 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: but of course here's another chance for Paco to take 1025 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 1: his shirt off and get to work. And later we 1026 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 1: see that he finishes the whole week's work in a 1027 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: single day. So it's like Hercules and the Stables, you know. Yeah, 1028 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: and Janet is astonished. She's like, wow, what a man. Uh. 1029 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: And then we also get uh, John Saxon meeting with 1030 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: with sunglasses guy and they talk about this euro hit 1031 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,879 Speaker 1: man that they're going to hire, who John Saxon says 1032 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: is infallible. They tell me, I think his name is 1033 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be Peter Howell, but it always sounded like 1034 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 1: Peter Hollow. And this is Claudio Cassinelli, Yes, this is it, 1035 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: this is him. Then there are some scenes there's a 1036 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: whole b plot about uh, these agents at the FBI 1037 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: and scientists trying to figure out what was the weapon 1038 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: that was used to attack Mosley. So they're like asking 1039 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: him about what it was. He's like, it was small 1040 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: but very hard and there and they don't know what 1041 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 1: that could be. And they've got like a computer simulation 1042 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 1: that i think scanned his wound so they can determine 1043 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: what type of object made it. Yeah, it's weird, Yeah, 1044 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: that he hit him with something small but very hard 1045 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: and um, And of course we were going to find 1046 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: it out increasingly that what happened was is, yeah, that 1047 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: he had these flashes of his his past and that 1048 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 1: he pulled the killing blow. He didn't like put his 1049 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 1: full might into it. So I'm like, did he punch 1050 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: him with like just a thumb or something like? What 1051 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: accounts of this? Well, anyway, you knew we were going 1052 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: to get to some arm wrestling eventually, So the first 1053 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: of a couple of arm wrestling sequences is coming up. 1054 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: This happens because some some rough truck boys come into 1055 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: the Desert Oasis, the Champions Oasis, and they start being 1056 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: aggressive and threatening with Linda and Paco, and of course 1057 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 1: this leads to a confrontation because Paco is already protective 1058 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: of of of Linda and her place and this this 1059 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: leads to an arm wrestling challenge. The leader of these 1060 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: bad truck guys is Raoul, who is played by George Eastman. 1061 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: And Raoul is just constantly talking trash. Yeah, he's just 1062 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: he's just snarling and leering, like he's he's taller than 1063 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: everybody and so he's he's kind of just looming over 1064 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 1: everyone and just just he's just like a wolf. He's wonderful, 1065 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: thoroughly menacing presence, like if if he were actually in 1066 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: a restaurant I was in, I would leave. Yeah, he 1067 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: has some pretty fun lines to the one part he says, 1068 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: anyone know this piece of rat? So it leads to 1069 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: an arm wrestling challenge that he like insults Paco, and 1070 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: then Paco's like, I'll show you what cyborgs are made of. Uh, 1071 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,919 Speaker 1: And so they all start making bets on who's gonna 1072 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: win the arm wrestling. They say, Raoul's gonna wipe the 1073 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: floor with this bum, but Linda bets a thousand dollars 1074 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 1: on Paco to win, and of course Paco does win, 1075 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: right because he's got he's I don't know, it seems 1076 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of not fair actually that he's like a machine. 1077 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 1: And George Eastman is just a human. But I don't know, 1078 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: maybe since George Eastman is like provoked him into it, 1079 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: it's not cheating. Eastman's character does just about everything imaginable 1080 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: to make you not root for him, so right, it's 1081 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: it's easy to forgive the cyborg cheat here. Yeah. But 1082 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: then of course a big fight breaks out after Paco wins. 1083 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 1: Everybody starts fighting and Paco has to has to beat 1084 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: up all the bad truckers. And then I realized that, Okay, 1085 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: this is actually Terminator meets road House. Did you think 1086 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, without the high minded um um bouncer 1087 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: philosophy that that makes Roadhouse so great, But yeah, it 1088 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: is very This setting is very roadhouse, and you get 1089 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: a roadhouse style um slopper knocker. But I don't know. 1090 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: At the end of the movie, there's some philosophizing that's 1091 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 1: very much on the level of pain don't hurt. Yeah, yeah, true. 1092 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Now by this point, Linda is obviously falling in love 1093 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: with Muscle Borg. He's he's just walking around with his 1094 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: shirt off all the time, and she's like, wow, you 1095 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: must work out a lot, and he goes a little 1096 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 1: um and they're they're setting things up for another big 1097 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 1: arm Wrestling Showdown, because this time he's got to go 1098 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: up against the real champ Blanco, who is like undefeated 1099 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: arm wrestling. Uh dude, and uh, and it's going to 1100 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: be in a rattlesnake match, which I don't Maybe we 1101 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 1: can explain the situation there in a minute. But Raoul 1102 01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: of course tries to cheat here by luring Paco out 1103 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 1: into the desert to do a good deed. They say like, oh, 1104 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: some children are trapped in a crashed car, and then 1105 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: Paco goes down to try to rescue them, but it's 1106 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: a trap by Raoul and his buddy, and they drag 1107 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 1: him on a tow truck and beat him up and 1108 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 1: leave him for dead in the desert. But he, of 1109 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 1: course is a muscle cyborg and so he survives and 1110 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,479 Speaker 1: escapes and makes it back in time for the big match. Yeah, 1111 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: despite having been beaten with with metal pipes and left 1112 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 1: for dead in the desert, he shows up like Raoul 1113 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 1: is already already boasting. He's like, oh, I guess I 1114 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: guess you have beefy man. He's too uh, he's too 1115 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 1: chicken to show. And then he shows and when we 1116 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: get this fabulous arm wrestling scene between Paco and Blanco, 1117 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's just so it is over the top. 1118 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: It's more over the top than I imagine anything in 1119 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: the movie over the top because again, rattlesnakes are involved. 1120 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: It's a rattlesnake match, and they have this this this mechanism. 1121 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 1: They have like these little enclosures for rattlesnakes, like see 1122 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 1: through plastic or plexi glass or something on either side. 1123 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 1: And then there's like a cuff, a locking cuff, So 1124 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: if you force your opponent's hand all the way down, 1125 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: uh their hand, their wrist will be locked in this 1126 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: cuff and that will also open the cage for the rattlesnake, 1127 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: and the rattlesnake will come out and bite you or 1128 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean it will bite your opponent. So it's not 1129 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: just as simple as like there's a there's a basket 1130 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: of rattlesnakes on either side. Now there's like this whole 1131 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 1: elaborate mechanism. They put a lot of thought into making 1132 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: the best possible high stakes rattlesnake um arm wrestling competition. 1133 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 1: Which of the five writers streamed this up, I think 1134 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: all of them. I think I think that's why it's 1135 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 1: so elaborate that it's someone's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1136 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 1: you can't just have a basket of rattlesnakes, because we're 1137 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: gonna want real rattlesnakes. You're gonna we're gonna need an enclosure. 1138 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 1: No no, no, how are you gonna trigger the rattle 1139 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: snakes to come out? Well, how's the arm gonna be 1140 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: held there? So all these ideas came together and they 1141 01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 1: kept they kept all of them. This is the convoluted 1142 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: product of Rattlesnake arm wrestling group think. Yes, but it's 1143 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: a terrific scene. I mean, I love a good arm 1144 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: wrestling sequence. And you see him in like like in 1145 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of films, like there's one 1146 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 1: in the Fly. Uh yeah, it's just a primal test 1147 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 1: of strength. Now afterwards, I guess, even though Paco wins, 1148 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 1: he's sort of I think injured in what's going on 1149 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: or I don't know if he's injured by what what 1150 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: George Eastman did do him earlier or in the in 1151 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 1: the arm wrestling. But then we get a scene just 1152 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 1: straight out of Terminator is just like a copied shot 1153 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 1: where his arm is open and he's working on the 1154 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 1: machinery underneath the skin, which you have metal stuff terminator moment. Yeah, 1155 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: and this is just the first scene in the movie 1156 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: I think where it's like fully confirmed, like, oh this, Yeah, 1157 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: he's definitely a real cyborg. I mean, I guess characters 1158 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: have been talking about it, but now you see the 1159 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 1: machine underneath him. Oh. Another important note about the big 1160 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 1: Rattle Snake arm wrestling event is that he wins. He 1161 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 1: gets Blanco's wrist into the cuff, the snake comes out 1162 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: to bite Blanco, but then at the last second, um 1163 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: our cyborg hero comes into the karate chop and cuts 1164 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 1: the head off of the rattlesnake, saves Blanco, saves him. 1165 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: That will become important later on. Well, but here I 1166 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 1: guess we're into the full the exposition backstory cyborg reveal 1167 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 1: part of the movie. Uh So, simultaneously, we're cutting back 1168 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: and forth between the police figuring out what's going on. 1169 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: One of them, who's I believed, like a police forensic 1170 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 1: scientist named Dr pekin Paw. Um, Come on, folks, um 1171 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: that named Dr peckin paw Who's like, I think we 1172 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 1: know what could have caused the wounds to Reverend Moseley 1173 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 1: a cyborg fist and they show it on the computer 1174 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: screen where it's a fist, but they're like, but no 1175 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 1: fist is capable of providing that amount of strength. And 1176 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: then also Paco just directly reveals his backstory to Linda. 1177 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: They have they have a tender romance where where he's like, 1178 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, He's like, I was one it's uh something, 1179 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. He was a soldier or something like that. 1180 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: And then and then I remember I was in a crash. 1181 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 1: And then I awoke in Reverend Moseley's room and I 1182 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 1: was supposed to kill him, but something stopped me. And uh, 1183 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: and I realized I couldn't be just a borg. I 1184 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 1: had to be something more. And he escapes, and of 1185 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 1: course they talk about love. He's like, how can you 1186 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 1: love me knowing that I am more bored than man? 1187 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: And and she's like, I care for you, Paco, and 1188 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 1: they kiss and it's just beautiful. It's like, like, how 1189 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 1: can you love me knowing that I am only thirty 1190 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: percent man? And she's like, I would love you if 1191 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,360 Speaker 1: you were only twenty eight percent man. I guess I 1192 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: got it wrong if I said he's not more bored 1193 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 1: than man, because the organ is that he's how can 1194 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: you love me? Knowing I'm more Cybe than Org. But anyway, Uh, 1195 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 1: she is going to she loves him, and she's going 1196 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 1: to help him escape to the Mexican border later tonight 1197 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: because they know he's being hunted by both the FBI 1198 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 1: and I guess they know he's also being hunted by 1199 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 1: John Saxon's people. I think, so yeah, Well, I mean 1200 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 1: he's been he's been dodging people the whole time. He 1201 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 1: has to know that his handlers are coming after him, right, 1202 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 1: So John Saxon's henchman track him down with the help 1203 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,439 Speaker 1: of of treacherous George Eastman, who has who has given 1204 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: away his location, and so they got guns and helicopters 1205 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 1: and surveillance all around the champions oasis. Uh. And then 1206 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 1: we get a great scene where they're like some decoys 1207 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: who show up at the hotel who presumably are just 1208 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: trying to get a motel room, but instead it turns 1209 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,440 Speaker 1: out there they're part of this nefarious plot. And just 1210 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 1: a note on the future fashion here, most of the 1211 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: fashion in this movie is not anything different than like 1212 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 1: what you I mean, Like they don't have like weird 1213 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, back to the future to style futuristic clothing. 1214 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: It's just people wearing like flannel and jeans and stuff. Yeah, 1215 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 1: it's the hard times version of the future. For some reason. 1216 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 1: This one couple who shows up on a motorcycle. They 1217 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: are like back to the future to style stuff like 1218 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: so one is wearing football pads as a vest and 1219 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 1: the other is wearing see through plastic shorts, like just 1220 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: wearing like two ziplock bags for pants. And the great 1221 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 1: thing about the female here that's wearing the zip block 1222 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 1: bags for pants is it's quickly revealed it's a trap 1223 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 1: and she is a killer cyborg as well. It is 1224 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 1: cyborg versus cyborg, and this is this fight seems pretty great. Yeah, 1225 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: it's it's got it's not that long, but it's it's 1226 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: in a it's in a tight spot. It's in this 1227 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 1: hotel room. Uh. We quickly see that she like she's shot, 1228 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 1: but then she's up again. She's got cyborg damage, she's 1229 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: got killer cyborg nails. There's a there's a fun bit 1230 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 1: of fight choreography, and it ends with him he ends 1231 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: up putting the rival cyborg and a full nelson and 1232 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 1: then going from a full nelson to a full head rip. 1233 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Just twist the head off, and we get that wonderful 1234 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 1: moment that you see in so many of these uh 1235 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 1: these films, the films of this caliber, where the head 1236 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,320 Speaker 1: falls onto the floor and then you have that effect 1237 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 1: where someone has like a false um floor around their necks. 1238 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 1: So you get that that that shot of the decapitated 1239 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 1: head talking, it's Ian Holman alien. Yeah, yeah, except she 1240 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 1: except the head is going they will destroy you. Yeah, 1241 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,640 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty much the voice. Yeah, oh yeah. And 1242 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 1: also I love how when she first announces uh is, 1243 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 1: she first starts trying to kill him. So she's got 1244 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 1: like these killer metal nails that she's stabbing him with, 1245 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 1: and she says, I am the perfect cyborg, and I 1246 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,880 Speaker 1: have been sent here to kill a traitor, which sounds 1247 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 1: like she's taken it too personal. I thought cyborgs were 1248 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 1: just supposed to do their mission. But she does not 1249 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 1: sound like she is dispassionately executing programming. She's she's taking 1250 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 1: it personal. She she's like really mad at this guy. Well, 1251 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: I think one of the things to keep in mind 1252 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,720 Speaker 1: is that it's it's early days with cyborgs, as as 1253 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: they reveal more later in the picture. Uh and and 1254 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 1: he's the best. He is the even though he's flawed, 1255 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,920 Speaker 1: even though his humanity is leaching back in Like, he's 1256 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,639 Speaker 1: the best. So even though he's very cold at the beginning, 1257 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,600 Speaker 1: I guess this other cyboard is who's still like the 1258 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: second best cyboard, the best thing you could possibly send 1259 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 1: in to try and kill him. Um, you know she's 1260 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 1: not perfect. She's clearly got too much human emotion wrapped 1261 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 1: up in this whole killing the opposition thing, right. His 1262 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:23,240 Speaker 1: profile says negative characteristics none her says negative characteristics taking 1263 01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 1: it too personal exactly. But from here it basically just 1264 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,679 Speaker 1: goes on into a very long action chase sequence that's 1265 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 1: got John Saxon's dudes chasing and shooting after Linda and 1266 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 1: Buddy Borg. They're being pursued mercilessly by by the Saxonites 1267 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: and uh oh, and there's a great part where while 1268 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 1: they're running around from trying to escape them, Blanco shows up, 1269 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,559 Speaker 1: the the other you know, the arm wrestling champ. And 1270 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 1: he shows up. He's a really stand up guy. He 1271 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 1: he just like drives a truck in to help them 1272 01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,720 Speaker 1: get away. Yeah, he ends up giving his life to 1273 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: save our our hero in this film. So that's the 1274 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,799 Speaker 1: pretty good Yeah. In the meantime, meanwhile, you've got um 1275 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: sunglasses guy. And then ultimately I think Saxon gets on 1276 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 1: on this too, using shotguns to fire rockets. Like they 1277 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 1: take a rocket grenade Robert rocket propelled grenade or something 1278 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,799 Speaker 1: and like stick it in the front of the shotgun, 1279 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 1: and then used the shotgun to fire it, uh, which 1280 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 1: which ultimately it looks it looks good. I'm just part 1281 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 1: of me was wondering, like what that just looks like 1282 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 1: you stuck like a nerf in the shotgun. But on 1283 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: the other hand, it does it looks good. I still 1284 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 1: bought it completely. In film. Now, when Blanco gets blown up, 1285 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 1: you think that Linda has also been killed, but then 1286 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,799 Speaker 1: it turns out that she survived, and so, uh. Muscle 1287 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 1: Borg is very upset because he had discovered what love was, 1288 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 1: but now the one person he loved is dead, and 1289 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,720 Speaker 1: so he goes into a rage and these soldiers are 1290 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,760 Speaker 1: coming after him. They come after him. He like goes 1291 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: into this old factory it's like some underground stuff, and 1292 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 1: they come after him with a laser and he kills 1293 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 1: all of the soldiers who were coming after him and 1294 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 1: then John Saxon comes in after him personally, which, yeah, 1295 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 1: that really seems like something that this corporate jerk would do. 1296 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 1: I'm going to physically personally go in there to shoot 1297 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,559 Speaker 1: at the guy I'm trying to get um. But he 1298 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: picks up the laser and is trying to shoot Paco, 1299 01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,879 Speaker 1: but Paco, of course bests him, and then he grabs 1300 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 1: John Saxon and he's like holding him by the neck 1301 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,680 Speaker 1: and he says, you thought you could own me by 1302 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 1: controlling my brain. But what people like you don't realize 1303 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 1: is that you don't own a man until you control 1304 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 1: his heart. And then he literally pulls out John Saxon's heart. Yeah, 1305 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a quality kill. Um. Yeah there. It 1306 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 1: seems like there are some other ones too. He's doing 1307 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 1: a lot of head crushing against the minions before he 1308 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 1: finally gets to John Saxon. But yeah, then he finishes 1309 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 1: John Saxon off with the heart. Rep Oh, and then 1310 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 1: we get the reveal Linda is alive and it's a 1311 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,640 Speaker 1: very love conquers All type ending. She's like he's in 1312 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 1: the factory, running around with a gun outside shooting at 1313 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 1: the police, like just in a rage. You know, he's 1314 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 1: in a violent downward spiral because he thinks Linda has 1315 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,760 Speaker 1: been killed. But then she reveals that she's alive, and 1316 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 1: she comes in to talk him down, and uh, he's like, 1317 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,559 Speaker 1: they won't let me live, and she's like, yes, they will. 1318 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 1: She says, quote, they know that you were normal before 1319 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 1: you ended up in that laboratory. Um, and she says, 1320 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:26,719 Speaker 1: and you saved the best part of you, the soul. Yeah. Yeah, 1321 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 1: the soul managed to bleed its way back into the 1322 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 1: whole cyborg equation and uh turned to the the the 1323 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,760 Speaker 1: evil scheme on its head. But then I would say, 1324 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,799 Speaker 1: so it is mostly a love conquers all ending, except 1325 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,320 Speaker 1: in the very last few seconds there's it suddenly gets 1326 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,720 Speaker 1: kind of ambiguous and I don't know what to make 1327 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 1: of it. So Paco peels back part of his head 1328 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 1: and reveals something underneath there. I couldn't tell quote what 1329 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 1: it was, something like some piece of metal in his 1330 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,760 Speaker 1: head is glinting, and and he's like, but is it 1331 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 1: a soul? And then she's like and then it just 1332 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 1: cuts to music. Yeah. Well, and then also there's some 1333 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 1: some text on the screen that says it was a 1334 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,440 Speaker 1: day in our near future. The era of the cyborg 1335 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,600 Speaker 1: had begun. Um, the t in this sentence is really confusing. 1336 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 1: But and it also feels a little bit like Pucci 1337 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 1: died on his returning to his home planet right where. 1338 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 1: It just kind of comes out of nowhere. But but 1339 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 1: I liked it nonetheless, So like, did did they get 1340 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 1: to go off and like have a nice peaceful life 1341 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 1: together after this? Uh? Sure? Why not? I mean maybe 1342 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,640 Speaker 1: it was utah, Uh, don't placate me, but no, I 1343 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 1: like to I like to imagine that they they settled 1344 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 1: in Arizona, they maybe maybe right there in page Arizona, 1345 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, lived happily. Ever after Mosley brings around, 1346 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 1: uh you know, brings about better environmental policies for the world. Um, 1347 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 1: but it is the age of the cyborgs. So maybe, 1348 01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, the cyborgs are an important part of 1349 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,680 Speaker 1: bringing about a more environmentally sound future, maybe an all 1350 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,599 Speaker 1: cyborg powered future. Yeah, I mean maybe maybe if you're 1351 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,120 Speaker 1: only thirty percent organics, you end up caring more about 1352 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 1: those organics. You're like, look, I've already lost seventy of 1353 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,720 Speaker 1: me too, machine, I've only got thirty percent left, So 1354 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to be environmentalist that's right. The cybe is 1355 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 1: not everything. You know, your organ is precious. Be good 1356 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,639 Speaker 1: to your organ. Oh. By the way, that the bridge 1357 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 1: where we have the big showdown at that bridge is 1358 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,599 Speaker 1: Navajo Bridge in Grand Canyon National Park. In the film, 1359 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 1: we see just a single bridge that was built in 1360 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 1: since the filming of this movie, a second bridge was 1361 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: built right alongside it. In The old bridge is still 1362 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 1: there though. It's open for pedestrian and equestrian use. So 1363 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 1: if you you find yourself in this part of Arizona 1364 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 1: check it out. You can apparently walk out there on 1365 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: the on the bridge where the big showdown takes place. 1366 01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,519 Speaker 1: I do love a good pedestrian bridge. Yeah, I mean, 1367 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 1: and it's a it's a gorgeous bread That's one of 1368 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 1: the things I enjoyed a lot about this movie. But 1369 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,600 Speaker 1: I did really enjoy getting to see the Arizona countryside, 1370 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 1: even if the film quality is not, you know, perfect, 1371 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,680 Speaker 1: especially since I had trouble finding this one and ended 1372 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 1: up watching one of there's several different rips of it 1373 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 1: on YouTube, so I ended up just picking the one 1374 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,320 Speaker 1: that looked like it had the best film quality. It 1375 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 1: looks like it has been streaming on Amazon Prime in 1376 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 1: the past, but it was marked currently unavailable right now, 1377 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: so I had to make do with this. That title 1378 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 1: is hands of Steel. I know at least a couple 1379 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 1: of times in here we said something like arms of 1380 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,800 Speaker 1: steel or I deal. I wrote arms of steel at 1381 01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,439 Speaker 1: least once and had to go back and correct it, 1382 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 1: but probably said it anyway. Vendetta Adult, Futuro, Vengeance Future. Now. 1383 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 1: I know you had some thoughts about the cyborg acting 1384 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 1: in this. Oh yeah, there was something that just popped 1385 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,160 Speaker 1: up a few times in this movie. I can't remember 1386 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 1: what the specific instances were, but it's a It's a 1387 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 1: thing you see every now and the now and again 1388 01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,679 Speaker 1: in some B movies, especially, I feel like I've noticed 1389 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 1: it in some Italian B movies is actors delivering their 1390 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 1: lines literally without acting. And and this is different from 1391 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 1: bad acting. You know, bad acting is when a person 1392 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 1: attempts to inhabit a character and does a bad job. 1393 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,040 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's a poor reading where it is implausible, 1394 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 1: not appropriate for the scene, something like that. Instead, this 1395 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 1: is a phenomenon where the line delivery is literally just 1396 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 1: a delivery. It's like reading a sequence of words out 1397 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 1: loud off a page. Yeah, and I guess sometimes that's 1398 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,080 Speaker 1: probably a product of dubbing. Oh, I think absolutely it 1399 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 1: could be that. I don't remember what specifically had in mind, 1400 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 1: but I noticed there were a few of those in 1401 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,800 Speaker 1: here when I was watching it. But then again, if 1402 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 1: one character is a cyborg and therefore you know, seventy 1403 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 1: pent machine, then a certain kind of a cold read 1404 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense. And then if another character 1405 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 1: is played by John Saxon, who often has that kind 1406 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 1: of stern delivery anyway, you know, regardless of he's the 1407 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 1: villain in a cyborg film or if he's Nancy's dad 1408 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Nightmare on Elm Street, you know you're only going to 1409 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,360 Speaker 1: get a certain level of energy from Saxon. Intense but 1410 01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 1: medium energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying. 1411 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Saxon was always trying to play it cool, 1412 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,960 Speaker 1: which is dangerous for an actor. Like you can have 1413 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,080 Speaker 1: a cool persona as an actor, but if you try 1414 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: to be too cool, you limit yourself from you know, 1415 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,639 Speaker 1: the full range of emotion you could display on screen. Yeah. Meanwhile, 1416 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: George Eastman was not trying to play it cool, at 1417 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 1: least in this In that picture and most pictures I've 1418 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 1: seen him and he's he's basically trying to be a 1419 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 1: cartoon wolf out of a Looney Tunes cartoon. He's Jim 1420 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:38,720 Speaker 1: Carrey's the Mask without animation pretty much. All right, Well, 1421 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and close this one out again. 1422 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,880 Speaker 1: As of this recording, I don't know of a good 1423 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 1: place to go and stream this aside from finding you know, 1424 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 1: rips of it. But there have been some editions that 1425 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 1: have come out on DVD before, so you might be 1426 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 1: able to rent it or pick up a physical copy. 1427 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,720 Speaker 1: But if you are interested in the soundtrack again, go 1428 01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,600 Speaker 1: to Russ Blade dot band camp dot com because you 1429 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,160 Speaker 1: can definitely listen to the whole thing there by yourself 1430 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,680 Speaker 1: a digital copy or get that precious silver vinyl. And 1431 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 1: I looked and looked at it appears that a number 1432 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:13,200 Speaker 1: they have a number of different releases from that from 1433 01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 1: that record label. That's that seemed really interesting. I was 1434 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 1: listening to a few tracks here and there, but also 1435 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,559 Speaker 1: multiple Goblin releases. And if you would like to listen 1436 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 1: to more weird house cinema, well this publishes every Friday, 1437 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,519 Speaker 1: and the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast feed. Our 1438 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 1: usual science episodes are on Tuesdays and Thursdays. We usually 1439 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,639 Speaker 1: have artifact on Wednesdays unless it is being um uh, 1440 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, preempted by something. We have our listener mail 1441 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,640 Speaker 1: on Mondays, but Friday is just a time for us 1442 01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 1: to discuss weird pictures like this, So come on and 1443 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 1: cut loose at the picture show and one more thing. 1444 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,679 Speaker 1: I'll also include some of this media that we discussed 1445 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,639 Speaker 1: at the block at some uted SMUTA music dot com. 1446 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 1: Huge thanks as always to our excellent audio producer Seth 1447 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 1: Nicholas Johnson. 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