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Challenge Steve de Seger's at the anchor desk. 83 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 7: Steep us updated throughout the program, and of course alive Elijah, 84 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 7: I'm saga. 85 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 6: I'm so sorry. I'm looking right at him and I said, Elijah, 86 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 6: that was. 87 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: Sorry. 88 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 6: It's not racist, not at all, Remember Rob, It's yes? 89 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: Is that? 90 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 9: It? 91 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Oh? 92 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 6: Come on, all right, yes, thank you? 93 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: I need a dump button here. 94 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 6: We're all right, We're all good, all right? 95 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 7: Uh well, we got NBA news, Rob G that I 96 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 7: think a lot of people learn, Yes we do, and 97 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 7: touching it and just the full discloyer. 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 10: We will get to Tiger Woods later in the show. 99 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 10: Big Breaking is It's all again, so we'll definitely get 100 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 10: to that in our number two with the start offs, 101 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 10: it is Tiger but the start off today's show big 102 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 10: news in the NBA, not necessarily the NBA, but in 103 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 10: the basketball world because the twenty twenty sixth class of 104 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 10: the Basketball Hall of Fame has been announced, headlined by 105 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 10: none other then Glenn Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers who famously said, 106 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 10: stop hating on me for losing these three one leads, 107 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 10: because you got to go three to one to lose them, 108 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 10: So give me credit for that one. And obviously, Doc 109 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 10: Rivers has been a controversial figure on the show for 110 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 10: some time now. Most of us think he's wildly overrated, 111 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 10: but at least one person says that this Hall of 112 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 10: Fame nod is justified. Calvin, explain yourself. 113 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: Well, listen, any reason that you may think that Doc 114 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Rivers shouldn't. 115 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: Be in there. I get it. I one thousand percent 116 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: get it. We just talked about it. Rob g. You 117 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: brought it up. 118 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers has been excited just to be up three 119 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: in a series, just to make the playoffs. Sometimes it's 120 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: hard enough and it's all that's good enough, just to 121 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: make it. He's made more excuses for himself over the 122 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: last ten twelve years than anybody else. And we know it, 123 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: and we've talked about it. Robin and I made fun 124 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: of it. We've laughed about it, we've been disappointed in it. 125 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: The problem is this isn't a Doc Rivers issues. We've 126 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: talked about it before. This is a not having your 127 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: own Hall of Fame issue. If this were the NBA strictly, 128 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: you might have a different conversation. But because it's the 129 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: Natesmith Basketball Hall of Fame, well, then if you're Doc 130 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: Rivers or his agent, you would say, well, why can't 131 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: he make it? You start looking at guys like Rick Adelman, 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: who is in the Hall of Fame. And again, Rick 133 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Adelman never won a championship, had a bunch of playoffs, 134 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: sixteen playoff appearances as a coach, two NBA Finals appearances, 135 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: remember those Portland Trailblaze team that were good in the 136 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: late eighties early nineties, and a bunch of wins. 137 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: But Doc Rivers would have the same thing. He has 138 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: a bunch of wins. 139 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: He's got an NBA Championship, He's been to another NBA Finals, 140 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: He's been to another Eastern Conference Finals. He played in 141 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: the NBA for thirteen seasons. He was a one time 142 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: All Star in the NBA. So I don't think Doc 143 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: Rivers is a Hall of Famer. But the president has 144 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: been set several times over in the Natesmith Basketball Hall 145 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: of Fame, where you have plenty of people who are 146 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: in there that we go, well, how this person make it? 147 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: Well, that person how they make it. 148 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: So, if you're Doc Rivers or the voting panel, this 149 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: is how you get guys in there that we might 150 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: scratch our head, we might scratch our chin and say, well, 151 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: how this person make it? And so to me, that's 152 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: why again the conversation Rob and I have had it, 153 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's time to really strongly consider an MBA where 154 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: it is a high brow it is hard to get in, 155 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: it is difficult. It's like base like football where it's 156 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: getting very difficult to get in. And that becomes something 157 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: because with the Naismith Basketball a lot of people get 158 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: in who have lesser resumes than Doc Rivers. 159 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: When you consider he was a player, he was an 160 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: All star. 161 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: He is a coach who's won a bunch, who lost 162 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: a bunch, but won a bunch and the tune of 163 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: winning a championship and has another finals appearance. So again, 164 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Calvin doesn't want to vote him man, but history says 165 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: by his record he can get in. 166 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 7: The Basketball Hall of Fame is a total embarrassment. 167 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 6: It's a three dollar bill. 168 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 7: It's the worst thing that you could have in sports, 169 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 7: and it's been bastardized all the way. 170 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 6: Down to here. 171 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 7: We are putting in mediocre coaches who have had a 172 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 7: long string of unsuccessful runs and actually embarrassing runs to 173 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 7: be hog. It's no way in the world that you 174 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 7: can look at Doc Rivers at this point. This ain't 175 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 7: him going in after they won the championship in Boston 176 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 7: in twenty ten. 177 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 6: It's just right, this is sixteen years later or whatever 178 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 6: year that was with that. 179 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 7: Twenty oh wait, right, that's the sixteen eighteen years later, right, 180 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 7: I mean, or whatever it is. The number like ridiculous, 181 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 7: And that is what the problem is. It doesn't feel good. 182 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 7: It doesn't I don't care what hall of fame. There's 183 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 7: no way that feels good. You gotta ask yourself. 184 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 6: Most people scoffed or threw up. 185 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 7: In their mouth, or did Danny Thomas spittake with their 186 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 7: ice t they were drinking today when they heard the announcement. 187 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 7: That's the way you want to have a hall of 188 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 7: fame where people gasp or people throw up and say 189 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 7: what like, it doesn't even make sense. It's the worst 190 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 7: thing that you could do to a hall of fame. 191 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 7: And and yes, there are all these other people in it. 192 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 7: It just continues to take a downward spiral. I don't 193 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 7: care about the mistakes you keep making. 194 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 6: I don't. I just don't. 195 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 7: I don't know under what I want the playing career. Fine, 196 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 7: A one time all store does not get you in 197 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame. 198 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 6: Sorry. And the same thing. 199 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 7: Winning a championship or not winning a championship doesn't mean 200 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 7: you get in. There are quarterbacks in the NFL won 201 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 7: two Super Bowls and not in the Hall of Fame. 202 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 7: Jim Plucket won two Super Bowls. He's not in the 203 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 7: Hall of Fame. Just because you want to such NBA 204 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 7: championship doesn't automatically mean you get in the Hall of Fame. 205 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 7: It has to be a body of work. The body 206 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 7: of work stinks, it does I don't know if you 207 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 7: you just can't. You gotta be honest with it. 208 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: And see, that's where I don't think it stinks. I 209 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: just think it was. 210 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 9: No. 211 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 6: I think I think it's when. 212 00:10:58,720 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that's man. 213 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 7: It states when you've given up all these three to 214 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 7: one leads and all these other opportunities, and that's the ladder. 215 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 7: That's what we've seen the most of. At the end, 216 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 7: I agree, Okay, if was reversed and he did that 217 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 7: early in his career and won a championship last year 218 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 7: or two years ago. Then there's a progression. He's progressed 219 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,479 Speaker 7: the wrong way. That's what makes this such an unworthy 220 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 7: Hall of Fame that there's a difference. 221 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: The problem is, again, you're right, the bar has been 222 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: so low that you got guys who can limbo that 223 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: way up in there. 224 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: You got a bunch of players. 225 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: You got a bunch of players and contributors or in 226 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: this case player slash coaches that can limbo. 227 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: They were in there, and it shouldn't be. 228 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: Where a guy when you think of at this point 229 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: twelve years ago, ten years ago, maybe it was a 230 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: little different. Maybe he had a three to one loss. 231 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, he had that when he was with Orlando 232 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: to the Pistons. He's like, all right now he is 233 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: synonymous with losing, right Like when you think of Doc Rivers, 234 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: you no longer think of umboonte or whatever they were 235 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: saying in Boston, the team chant, the African proverb of togetherness. No, 236 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: you think of losing, You think of losing all those 237 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: all those the times they were up three to one, 238 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: or times were their favors, or times were the Clippers 239 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: with the sexy pick to win the championship finally, and 240 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: you think all those losing and you get to Milwaukee 241 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: and you got Yannest, you got damn And that falls 242 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: through when when you had Griffin, Adrian Griffin, who was 243 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: already doing better, and y'all has wanted up out of there, 244 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: and so you just think of the couple of you 245 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: think about Philadelphia. 246 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: Okay, finally got the process. 247 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Let's get a new coach because it isn't working with 248 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: the previous one. 249 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: Let's bring in Doc Rivers. It doesn't work there. 250 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: So when I think of Doc Rivers, I no longer 251 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: think of a successful coach. I think of underwhelming or 252 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: underachieving or losing three to one leads. And that's the 253 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: disappointing part that that is now hall of fame. 254 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: When I think of Phil Jackson, you think of what 255 00:12:59,440 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: is it? 256 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: Six van ring not to mention as a player and 257 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: all that. You think of championships. When you think of 258 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: Chuck Daily, you think of back to back championships with 259 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: the Pistons. Obviously they went to even went to another 260 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: finals as well. Like you think of these things, you 261 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: think of the dream team. When you think of Doc Rivers, 262 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: you don't think of something that warrants Hall of Fame. 263 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: Good coach, had a good career, Hey, pat on the back, 264 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: did well, got some got a championship, had some good seasons. Fine, 265 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't think Hall of Famer when I think him. 266 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. The bar is so low, well 267 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: you got, It's low enough that guys can limbo in. 268 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 6: There, all right. 269 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 7: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven, nine, nine, 270 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 7: six sixty three sixty nine. Does Doc rivers below in 271 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame? It's a real simple question. 272 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 6: Where are you? Uh? 273 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 7: And does he his inclusion cheapened the Hall of Fame 274 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 7: as a whole. That's pretty hard because that is pretty 275 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 7: bargain basement as it is. But my goodness, gracious, we'll 276 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 7: continue that conversation next with you. 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We'll chop it up with Big E in 301 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: just a moment. Right now, eight seven, seven ninety nine 302 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: on Fox, we're talking about the idea of Doc Rivers 303 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: being a Hall of Famer, which is absolutely crazy to think, 304 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: but again, the bar has been so low that you 305 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: know this is what you get. 306 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: Are we wrong, are we missing it? Are you okay 307 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: with it? Or you think this is wild as well? 308 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: The NBA needs to get their own, not the Natesmith 309 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: Basketball Hall of Fame, but the NBA Hall of Fame 310 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Let's take some 311 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: calls we got wrong. 312 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 7: I have a ESPN dot com column that I wrote 313 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 7: about this twenty years ago that they should have it 314 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 7: their own hall of Fame, Like, oh yeah, it makes 315 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 7: absolutely no sense. 316 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 6: I don't understand. 317 00:15:55,160 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 7: If Adam Silva wants to salvage his commissionership like not 318 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 7: being the worst of all time, how about establishing a 319 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 7: NBA Hall of Fame somewhere, you know what I mean, 320 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 7: and then start with the first fifty players, put them 321 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 7: in first, you know what I mean, and then you 322 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 7: go with the process of voting every year like that's 323 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 7: what And it should be based on just their career 324 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 7: in the NBA. 325 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 6: And nothing else. No college, no Olympics, nothing other than that. 326 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: All right? 327 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 7: Eight seven, seven ninety nine On Fox, Josh in California, 328 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 7: You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. 329 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 6: What's up? 330 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 11: Josh's embarrassing that Docus ended up. 331 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 12: Playing career, had lun Championship of the Coach, the most synonymous, blowing, 332 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 12: commanding playoff leagues and becoming a mean, just looking dumbsound 333 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 12: on the sideline. 334 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 7: That that's that's what we have, Like like, thanks for 335 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 7: the all, Josh, appreciate it. Good cards, a little loud there, 336 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 7: but you get it. 337 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 6: Kelvin. 338 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 7: It's just that, like like I'm telling you, if the 339 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 7: roles were reversed and he was struggling and blowing the 340 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 7: three one leads and then finally capped his career with 341 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 7: a championship, then you say, man, he always had his 342 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 7: team there, always was closed, right, and he finally broke through. 343 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 7: That's a better feeling than where we are today. 344 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: It just sandwich between remember the whole blowing it with 345 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Orlando to the Pistons and in between, you know, some 346 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: good years with the Celtic, but then it's sandwich with 347 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: more blown leads. Not great with the uh the Sixers, 348 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: not great with the Bucks. And so it's just been 349 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: sandwiched with mediocrity or not great at all and just 350 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: had a little period where it was good. 351 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 7: Right, let's go to uh Tony in DC. You're on 352 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 7: the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tony? 353 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 6: How are you? 354 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 12: What's up fellas well? 355 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 8: I remember I sent you a message the other day 356 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 8: when is a lost again? He is the Doc Rivers 357 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 8: of college coaches. 358 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 6: You know, I've been saying that forever for real. 359 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 8: Go ahead, this is being definitely his all Hall of Fame. 360 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 8: But Doc Rivers Platte should be outside. There's no way 361 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 8: he should be in the same pat Riley red all back. 362 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 8: It needs to be right there by the ticket counter and. 363 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 9: Were like, hey, there's Doc Rivers right there, and. 364 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 8: Next to him is or when first go in. But no, 365 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 8: this is Are you even JJ Reddick, who I'm not 366 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 8: a fan, said this dude always has an excuse when 367 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 8: he loses. 368 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember that. That was an epic rant. I'm 369 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 6: not a JJ Reddick guy either, but it was. 370 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 8: Joe Mizoole is a Hall of Famer now. 371 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, No, Joe Missoo. 372 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 7: Is he won a championship you don't have on right, 373 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 7: He's in the Hall of Fame already. 374 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 9: Yeah. 375 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: I mean if he he does, all he needs is, 376 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, a few more deep, deep playoff runs and 377 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: does it. I'm just I think, I think, I think, 378 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: I think another one. 379 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, but winning if that's all that. 380 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: Even if he doesn't win another champion, I'm saying, if 381 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: he gets to the finals one or two times, even 382 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: if he doesn't, then then yeah, but let's. 383 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 7: Squeeze in a few more. Andre in Massachusetts. You're in 384 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 7: the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Dray, how 385 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 7: you doing? 386 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 13: Thanks for taking the call. 387 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 14: Happy Monday. 388 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 13: Yeah, Doc Rivers. 389 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 14: He belongs in the Hall of Friends. 390 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 13: He's a nice guy. 391 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 14: He's friendly, he's amicable. 392 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 13: But that's as far as this goes, you know, And 393 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 13: this whole idea, and again it just makes me. It 394 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 13: irritates me because it brings Basketball is not taken as 395 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 13: seriously because it's Hall of Fame is not serious. The 396 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 13: Baseball Hall of Fame means business. They have a standard, 397 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 13: they stick to the standard. End of discussion. 398 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 14: I understand what you're saying. It's the basketball rather than 399 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 14: the NBA Hall of Fame. But dog on it, bloody diva. 400 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 14: He's a good guy. 401 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 13: Under no circumstances is he a Hall of Fame. 402 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 9: Which when you. 403 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 14: Lower the bar for one inductee, it lowers it for 404 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 14: everybody because people don't point to Michael Jordan Lebron James. 405 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 14: They point to that individual who you felt some sort. 406 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 6: Of cube and you put them in. 407 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 14: And so everybody at that level now feels that they 408 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 14: have a right to be in the Hall of Fame 409 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 14: against It's not a lifetime achievement award, it's not a 410 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 14: Hall of fame. It's friends, it's a hall of fame. 411 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 14: And what we say here again, commonwealth, you know we 412 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 14: I took it from Lumorloni. If it takes you more 413 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 14: than three seconds to think about it, that person's not 414 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 14: a haole of tham. 415 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 7: I've said in a million times, and we have to 416 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 7: debate your career. 417 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 6: You're not a Hall of famer. If I said to you, 418 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 6: Phil Jackson, you don't hesitate. 419 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: You just know that's a lot. Let me let me 420 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: read you some of these. 421 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: This is some Doc River quotes that you all enjoy 422 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: that we've talked about before. One of the things I'm 423 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: proud of is we've never been swept. All the coaches 424 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: have been swept in the playoffs. My team's achieved a 425 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: lot of them overachieved. It is what it is. It's 426 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: part of my legacy. This is about blowing three one leads. 427 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: There's nothing I can do about it. I don't get 428 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: enough credit for the three wins. Just unbelievable. All right, squeezing, 429 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: Do you think I was making that up? If I 430 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: said that, you actually think I was making this. 431 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 7: This might be the first time that Drew in New 432 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 7: Jersey calls in and he's on off side if he 433 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 7: defends Doc got shot. All right, Drew the couple, all right, 434 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 7: you are the couple of Fox Sports Radio. I was 435 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 7: gonna say, maybe even Drew. 436 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 4: Got on this one. He's essentially coach Budenhozer, but with 437 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: like Mike Tomlin p r Right, one has his back 438 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: like like this is a connection. He'll say. I understand 439 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: a lot of people will automatically put Tomlin in the 440 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, but like Shanahan's not in the Hall 441 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: of Fame. Who's the Giants coach that won the two 442 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 4: Super Bowls? 443 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 7: Uh no, no, no, no, no, he's talking about the Giants. 444 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 6: What's his name? 445 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: They're not in the Hall of Fame. So the hall 446 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: I feel like, if you have a good George, get 447 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 4: you in. 448 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 7: George Seaffort not in the Hall of Fame. No, right, 449 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 7: that's the that's the coach. George Seaford who won two 450 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 7: Super Bowls. 451 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 6: Right, he's not. 452 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: In Coughlin Shanahan's on the Hall of and he won 453 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: those two with the Broncos. Like you said, like those 454 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 4: are three. So that's why I think it's kind of 455 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: funny when they say, hey, this guy's a Hall of Fame. 456 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 6: I agree. 457 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: Good point. We're talking. That's a good point. 458 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it'll be interesting because if you're Mike McCarthy, Mike. 459 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 6: McCarthy won one. I talk about it all I. 460 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: Talk to about it. Hit him. Mike McCarthy and Sean 461 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: Payne almost half similar. 462 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 7: Hey, look at their records. The numbers are almost identical. 463 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 7: They both won one super Bowl. One guy's a genius 464 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 7: and the other guys Fred Flintstone, I don't get it. 465 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: Hey, all right, everybody appreciate the costs, all right, on 466 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: the way from salam and they will double back with 467 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: him and maybe ask him his thoughts on this as well, 468 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: of course, and some other moves that happening around the 469 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: NFL right now. 470 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 15: It is so Steve, be sure to catch live editions 471 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 15: of The Odd Couple with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington 472 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 15: weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox 473 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 15: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 474 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: Right now from salim joined us former NFL offensive line 475 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: in Fox Sports Radio Weekends from Salamox. 476 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: Give him a follow What up? 477 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 9: He brother doing good? 478 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 6: All good? 479 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: Doc Rivers a Hall of famer. 480 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 9: Huh yeah, yeah, you think so. But despite his shortcomings, 481 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 9: Uh as the coach, you know, he is one of 482 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 9: the top coaches. Like he's at meltdowns, he's I think 483 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 9: he's the only coach's lost that as many three one 484 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 9: leads in the series. Uh, anybody, uh, anybody else? But 485 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 9: you know his body of work is winning percentage all 486 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 9: of that. Doc Rivers is a good coach, hall of 487 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 9: fame coach. He's on the coach, he's on the cuff. 488 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's my thing. 489 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 6: I say, I don't think I don't. 490 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: I think he had a fine career. 491 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 7: Because we just brought up the point that George Seaford 492 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 7: won two Super Bowls with the forty nine Ers, He's 493 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 7: not in the Hall of Fame. Tom Coflin won two 494 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 7: Super Bowls with the Giants, not in the. 495 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 9: Hall of Fame. 496 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 7: Everybody, just because you win a super Bowl or championship 497 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 7: doesn't automatically mean the rest of your career is worthy. 498 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 6: That's that's why I think people make. 499 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 1: It, especially when you're synonymous from when you think of him, 500 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: you think think of him, Yeah, yeah, you don't think 501 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: of the like wow championships, not like a Chuck Dailey, 502 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: a pat Riley. 503 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: Guys. 504 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 9: You we gotta do rob But we gotta stop comparing 505 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 9: basketball football. We do that a lot. We do that 506 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 9: with players a lot, and it's just a different mentality, 507 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 9: that different uh you know, category the things are looked 508 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 9: at completely different. It's some guys who get into the 509 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 9: NBA Hall of Fame that you're like, uh. 510 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 6: Remember it's the basketball Hall of Fame. 511 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 7: And that's why people off of their college where these 512 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 7: guys are stars. I mean, I mean Amari Stottlemyer is 513 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 7: getting into know, I guess you know what I mean. 514 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 6: I guess. 515 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a little bit more you know, a little 516 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 9: bit more difficult in thee when we're talking about all 517 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 9: time grades and who serves to be where and what 518 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 9: so it's it's a basketball conversation. I get. It's a 519 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 9: little bit more leniency, uh on that side in terms 520 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 9: of who's allowed to get in and all. You don't 521 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 9: need championships. You don't know, you don't need a lot 522 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 9: of things to get in, uh to the basketball. And 523 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 9: that's not disaging that anybody who gets in. Obviously you've 524 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 9: had to you know, been up to score a lot 525 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 9: of points or win a bunch of games or so 526 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 9: on and so forth. But you know, whenever we start 527 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 9: crossing over, you know, from the court to the field, 528 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 9: it gets a little bit blurry. 529 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 7: From me, I want to ask you something, and I'm 530 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 7: dead serious. I just I don't know if you saw 531 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 7: the coach from Aaron Glenn uh and uh talking about 532 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 7: Gino's pizza, I mean Gino Smith that he's gonna take 533 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 7: to the Promised Land. 534 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 6: I just like, what do you gain from that? He 535 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 6: from seriously? 536 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 7: Like, like forget about okay, of course you get you 537 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 7: trade for a quarterback. You expect him to play well. 538 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 7: You hope that he can turn his things around and 539 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 7: all that. But to say he's gonna take you to 540 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 7: the Promised Land? What what would what do you get 541 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 7: from that? 542 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 9: Well, it depends on his definition of the promised Land. 543 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 9: If the definition of the Promised Land is Wildcard weekend, 544 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 9: then that may be possible, you know, But if the 545 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 9: promised Land is the Super Bowls. Then that's a bit 546 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 9: of a stretch. But like I said, the Jets haven't 547 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 9: had success in quite some times. People's definition of what 548 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 9: success is for a team that have been much maligned. 549 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 7: But only problem is what did he say about justin fields? 550 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 7: Go we go back toughest quarterback to to uh, game 551 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 7: plan against right and he's gonna do this and he's 552 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 7: gonna do that like I don't and then you're benching 553 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 7: them five games. I just don't what what why? 554 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 9: Let's is more right, let'sens more. Let's let's talk as 555 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 9: we're in the middle of doing something great opposed to uh, 556 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 9: you know, making statements prior to success that that's the 557 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 9: most difficult thing. And I get it. He's trying to 558 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 9: get the fan base rolled up, he's trying to get 559 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 9: the locker room rouled up and ownership. Uh, he's trying 560 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 9: to change the culture in a place where it hasn't 561 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 9: had cultures in the Broadway, Joe, you know. So it's 562 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 9: it's a situation where you know, I guess you know 563 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 9: when when you know Mark Sanchez was there. 564 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 6: And I was gonna say it went to two a 565 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 6: f C. 566 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 7: Championship games as goofy as Rex Reed is, people totally. 567 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: Forget that. 568 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 9: Defense first culture there, which you know allows one like 569 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 9: Mark Sanchez to come in and have a success. But 570 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 9: you know once that went away, they kind of faltered 571 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 9: and they're trying to figure out who they are. I mean, 572 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 9: we saw the same thing happen in Detroit where Dan 573 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 9: Campbell came in and started making all kinds of statements 574 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 9: and that people thought he was crazy, but it changed 575 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 9: the culture, had the guys in the locker room believing 576 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 9: that they could do something special. And now Detroit has 577 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 9: pulled themselves out of obscurity. May be on their way back, 578 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 9: but you know they've had a couple three years of 579 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 9: you know, big time football and then changing of of 580 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 9: who people thought the Detroit Lions. 581 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: Were all what us it is? 582 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: The cup on the trash Talking Tuesday, Robin Kelvin, let 583 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: me ask you this. We got Kyle Shanahad not happy 584 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: about the fact that they got to play in Australia. 585 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about that next time. 586 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 2: Have you been there? 587 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 6: Have you been there Australia, Australia. 588 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 7: I have you know what death like that flight is 589 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 7: a kelvo. 590 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 9: It's the whole world that I was. 591 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: Like, you're not selling me. That's on the list for 592 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: me and wifey. 593 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: But you gotta go. 594 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 11: Good to go vacation. 595 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 9: But make sure you get the seats where you get. 596 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 12: The whole room and help and you know how you 597 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 12: back there. 598 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 9: In the economy plus back there. I don't do that. 599 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 9: I don't do that. 600 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: No, no, we ain't gonna do it that way. 601 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 9: But you can't have money now, I know, I know 602 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 9: what you're making though you can't have money too. 603 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm just, man, don't do that. Don't be doing that 604 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: in the street. 605 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 9: You're gonna be with the champagne and with with the 606 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 9: bar lounge and put on the plane when I don't know. 607 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: About they got a if they got a corner store 608 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: on the plane, I might be able to do that, 609 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: like they got a little corner store a little. 610 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 9: Now, don't you're gonna travel, man, you're gonna travel like 611 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 9: we were like we travel we all do all right. 612 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: Well you you just don't let rob you hear on that. 613 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: Now here's my thing speaking of that. As a player, 614 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: does this stuff? 615 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: Is it fun? Is it exciting? I'm gonna bring the 616 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: family with me. Is it horrible? Is it training? 617 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: Because we the NFL is hell been on having a 618 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: million games around the globe at this point. So players, 619 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: what is it like for you? What does it really 620 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: do for because we can't put ourselves in your shoes? 621 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: What's it like or your college? 622 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 9: It's having to do it. It's not fun. It's not fun. 623 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 9: It becomes a bit of a hindrance. And it's routine. 624 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 9: Everything in the NFL becomes routine, right every Wednesday Thursday, 625 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 9: far like, you get used to the routine, which you need. 626 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 9: The routine helps in your recovery, your ability. All of 627 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 9: that is something that you want when you start throwing 628 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 9: in seventeen eighteen hour flight, just imagine just fight, then 629 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 9: you get down. You got practice, the time changes out 630 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 9: of control and all that to get to where you 631 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 9: gotta play a game that matters, right, a game that counts. 632 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 9: And now you're in a situation where it's just not enjoyable. 633 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 9: And by the way, you gotta fly back. And so 634 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 9: even if you bring your family out there, you don't 635 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 9: really have a lot of time to do things you 636 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 9: would normally do if you're going out on vacation with 637 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 9: the family. So for me. It's for players. It's a hindrance, right, 638 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 9: it's not. I talked to Cam Hayward last year and 639 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 9: his family when they went to Ireland and it was 640 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 9: they just everybody and it was just like everybody got 641 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 9: sick on the way back. It was just a mess, 642 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 9: you know what I mean. So it's it's not what 643 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 9: it all cracks up to be. It's great for you know, 644 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 9: growing the global brand of the NFL, and I get 645 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 9: what they're doing. Uh, but it's you know, everything the 646 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 9: NFL does is in the best interests of the like 647 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 9: of the players. I mean, Thursday night football every every week, right, 648 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 9: it's gonna be Wednesday night football, it's gonna be Friday 649 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 9: night football. It's gonna be Tuesday night football. It's all 650 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 9: to grow the brand. It's not the players are like, 651 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 9: whatever you said tell us to do, We're gonna do 652 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 9: it whether we like it or not. 653 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you hear more and more coaches speaking 654 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: out about it as well. 655 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: I appreciate it, man, Thank you, brother. We'll do it 656 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: again next week. 657 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 9: Absolutely, brother, y'all says safe no doubt. 658 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: Make sure you give him a follow upgain Ephra Salaam 659 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: on X your tire reck player of the day on 660 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: the Way sheckl City on the way as well. Stick 661 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: with your boys, Robin Kelvin on a trash Talking Tuesday, 662 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 663 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 664 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 665 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 666 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. 667 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Kelvin Washington, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington on 668 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: a trash Talk Tuesday. Hey, thank you to Ephan Salam 669 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: who joined us moments ago. 670 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: Rob Gill. 671 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: Get that up on the pod as all, so make 672 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: sure you get the podcast coming up. 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I did do that. I 697 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 6: knew that two and one last night. 698 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 7: We are now at ninety and sixty two, twenty eight 699 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 7: games over five hundred. I'll take that. Oh yeah, tonight, 700 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 7: Nicks minus one and a half, Nicks minus one and 701 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 7: a half. They're taking on the Houston Rockets in Houston, Okay, 702 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 7: Cavaliers plus one and a half. 703 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 6: They're here in. 704 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 7: Los Angeles taking on the Lakers tonight, right with no Luca? 705 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 6: Is that right, correct? 706 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 7: You? 707 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: No Luca, y Luca. 708 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 6: Oh, but they're playing tonight. He's playing to night. He's 709 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 6: back to night. 710 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: Okay, he's back tonight. 711 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 7: It's only it's only a one and a half point 712 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 7: game here in LA with the clip with the Cavs. 713 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 7: So I got the Cavs plus one and a half 714 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 7: and I got the Clippers minus four and a half 715 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 7: to take a on the Portland Trailblazers. 716 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 6: That's a Lake game, no doubt. 717 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 7: So again, Clippers minus four and a half, Cavaliers plus 718 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 7: one and a half and the Knicks minus one and 719 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 7: a half. And remember, I'm not telling you who to 720 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 7: bet on. I'm telling you who I better. I need 721 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 7: baby oil and a cigarette. 722 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: All right, there you have it. Shekel City there. 723 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: Hey Rob g Dan Hurley kind of gave us his 724 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: thoughts of what happened with him and a ref at 725 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: the end of that Yukon Duke game. 726 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, this might be my favorite excuse in the history 727 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 10: of sports. Now, after that game, if you saw the video, 728 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 10: they make the big that they get to steal. They 729 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 10: make the big three, which is basically the game winner, 730 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 10: and in the celebration, Hurley goes up to the referee 731 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 10: and basically goes forehead to forward with him like you 732 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 10: see in a boxing face off. Now, by any letter 733 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 10: of the law. By any rule, that should have been 734 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 10: a technical foul on Dan Hurley for assaulting a referee 735 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 10: is what they would have said, making contact with official, 736 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 10: nothing happens of Ukin ends up winning. The rest is history. 737 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: Now. 738 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 10: Dan Hurley was asked about it on a podcast earlier 739 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 10: today and he said the whole interaction was just, you know, 740 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 10: he thought the reff was coming in for a chest bump. 741 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 10: He thought the ref was trying to celebrate with him 742 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 10: such a phenomenal play about one of his guys. Well, 743 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 10: apparently the NCAA doesn't quite see it that way, because 744 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 10: for whatever reason, they won't say exactly for sure. Despite 745 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 10: that referee being one of the most celebrated officials in 746 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 10: the collegiate level and officiating seven different final fours already 747 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 10: in his career, he has conspicuously been left off the 748 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 10: official rosters for this upcoming Final four. 749 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 6: So make of that what you will. 750 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: I mean, a conspiracy only leads to maybe they're not 751 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: happy with how he handled that. They may be feeling 752 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: some type of way. I thought it was great. We 753 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. Sometimes refs have to 754 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: swallow the whistle and let a moment be a moment 755 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: Dann Hurley is losing his mind because his team did 756 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: something that. Man, everybody who watched the game, even if 757 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: you're not a fan of either team, just watching the tournament, 758 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: lose your mind. And he's caught up in the moment. 759 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: Jackets hanging all off, he's hype, he's running around, ref's 760 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: in his face, He's. 761 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: Just like, how you like that? He was in his 762 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousin's bag. You like that? 763 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: And I just think it was one of those moments, 764 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: and I think the ref understanding that seeing he's locked 765 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: in and say, you know what, I ain't tripping. It 766 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: wasn't personal. He's just in the moment. I thought that 767 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: was cool because if some crazy you should have been 768 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: thrown out. 769 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 7: Are you kidding when you make contact with the official, 770 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 7: if that was a player or been the end of 771 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 7: the world. I don't even know how they allow certain 772 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 7: people to get away with that, and just you're not 773 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 7: supposed to touch an official. 774 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: Because I think it's in the end that was the 775 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 2: game over? 776 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 9: Over? 777 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 10: Was that when the when he shot, it was basically 778 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 10: over because it was at the time that time on 779 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 10: the clock. 780 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just trying to remember okay, because I just 781 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: I enjoy. 782 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 2: Using huge human discretion in a moment. 783 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: I appreciated that, and I think we need more of 784 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: that sometimes where you know, you'll see a guy, an 785 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: NBA player, football player do something out of the most 786 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: like oh, I thought, and slapping his knee or something 787 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: hard and the raptics he's trying to show him out 788 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: and he caused a TECH on him. 789 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: He's like, yo, he was mad about it. 790 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 4: He was. 791 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: He was frustrated with the moment, not really even you. 792 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: He's just frustrated. So I wasn't mad at it. Dan Hurley, 793 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: he definitely was skating on on. He's an habitual line stepper. 794 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: We know that for sure. But I'm okay with this 795 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: ref letting that go because how crazy would that have been. 796 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: We're all screaming watching the game. 797 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 7: He is one of the worst coaches in dealing with officials. 798 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 7: I don't know how they can be chummy. He's the worst. 799 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 7: Dan Hurly, he's such a saw loser in him. 800 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: We should have 801 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 6: Thrown him out as soon as he made contact.