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Speaker 1: R and b's money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 3: Thanks take valantility. We are the authority on all things

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Speaker 3: R and B. Ladies and gentlemen. Money is tank and

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Speaker 3: this is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority

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Speaker 3: on all things R and B. Tell you something, Okay,

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Speaker 3: when you name, all right, your name says what it is.

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Speaker 4: What you do, what you do, who you are, who

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Speaker 4: you is.

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Speaker 3: You got to live up to that name.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 4: Out the Gate, out the Gate.

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Speaker 3: You got to have some gift. Huh. I have some

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Speaker 3: confidence and some swag to go along with that name.

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Speaker 3: And they better listen, and they better listen.

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Speaker 4: Better listen.

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Speaker 3: Kept me from going number one. Sick of his ship.

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Speaker 4: Your nemesis is here.

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Speaker 3: Is here, ladies and gentlemen on the colis musical entities

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Speaker 3: ever to grace the planet the universe music song, Shut up,

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Speaker 3: shut it.

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Speaker 1: He's here.

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Speaker 3: I've been telling these stories and he has to be

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Speaker 3: here to hear these stories. You know. I had this

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Speaker 3: song called Maybe I Deserve and it was climbing the

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Speaker 3: charts race hard.

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Speaker 4: It was hard.

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Speaker 1: It was hard.

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Speaker 3: Look like I might have a number one record.

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Speaker 4: Out the Gate, out the Gate, No, not out the gate,

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Speaker 4: you know, talk about that. It was spotter. I was

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Speaker 3: None of us do and then' and and they said,

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Speaker 3: you know, we could climb a little higher, we could

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Speaker 3: get to the top of the food chain. But this

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Speaker 3: god by the name of music, soul child whose song

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Speaker 3: just won't go nowhere, it just won't leave.

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Speaker 4: I didn't start off.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to talk for give, I don't want

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Speaker 3: to sing.

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Speaker 4: You want to see this song, the song, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Even want no yond hang out, I love it.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, I'm in the backs of baby.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you killed him with that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, bro, appreciate that kill you Listen, you killed

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Speaker 3: him with a great song, great lyric great melody, nothing,

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Speaker 3: no extras, no fluff, no.

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Speaker 5: Just It's funny because I I didn't know, you know,

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Speaker 5: the gravity of what I was doing at the time.

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Speaker 5: I thought that that was I was doing it the

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Speaker 5: that that's the standard that everybody is is attempting to meet.

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Speaker 5: You know, I didn't realize that, you know later on like, no,

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Speaker 5: everybody's not putting up that same kind of effort.

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Speaker 3: You know, I didn't know that, And and not in

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Speaker 3: a pure sense, even me as as as a purist,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I still need some titties, you know

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Speaker 3: am I I'm like, because I'm because I go back,

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Speaker 3: like I'm sitting in the in the house with you know,

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Speaker 3: they start doing more scrolling down this man's body, you know,

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Speaker 3: my girl at the time goes got you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you can I help it? Start getting uncomfortable. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you see you see something on that TV.

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Speaker 5: You like, Yeah, you're trying to be in there.

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Speaker 3: You want to be in there. Yeah, you want to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and shot that was very strategic.

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Speaker 3: So at that moment, I could sing, I could write songs,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he never gave you.

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Speaker 3: So I needed. I'm make sure that along with my

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Speaker 3: musicality that you need I got.

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Speaker 5: Now here's the thing about me, where I was at

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Speaker 4: So I said, okay, I know, I know that that's

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Speaker 5: So in other directions, because I ain't got that, I

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Speaker 5: I got is excuse me, ma'am.

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Speaker 3: Me mad because I'm putting all this work in the jail.

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Speaker 1: He got his cloth.

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Speaker 4: And that was that was bagging too. Yeah, killing crazy.

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Speaker 3: First of all, amazing congression, and then part two was

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Speaker 3: you're probably the most intricately methodical Oh yeah, dynamic recording artists.

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Speaker 4: I got the Michael Jackson disease I've ever worked with.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm in there, and I'm like, this has to

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Speaker 3: the word. But if you're gonna let you get to

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Speaker 3: if you're if you understand music, then you get it.

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Speaker 3: Because I when I listen to you, I understand the

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Speaker 3: intricacies and just the small movements that you do. I

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Speaker 3: catch all of it. I'm like, that's that's stupid, that's

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Speaker 4: I don't right.

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Speaker 3: You sang it was on some I feel like I'm

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Speaker 3: just I'm just telling you where you were. You could

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Speaker 3: tell me if I'm wrong. I accuse you of being

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Speaker 3: you decided to purposely sing minor.

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Speaker 4: I like doing that.

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Speaker 5: I like forcing minors into majors and majors into mining.

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Speaker 3: On purpose because of your musical superiority. I feel like

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Speaker 4: They're never going to understand this. I will do it

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Speaker 4: anyway you're dump. That's not like a scarf art time

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Speaker 3: If you take its rich, it's is rich and that

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Speaker 3: and and I've always admired that about you, because you're

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Speaker 3: just I do it.

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Speaker 5: I do it.

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Speaker 3: I do it for the fun.

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Speaker 5: I do it because it's available. I do it because

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Speaker 5: I hear it. I do it because I can't get

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Speaker 5: away from it. But at the time, you know what

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Speaker 5: a lot of internal traffic, had never been trained. I

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Speaker 4: Gotta be perfect.

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Speaker 5: It got to be perfect, and if it's off by

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Speaker 5: a little bit, no do it again. You know, because

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Speaker 5: I was the one, and that's a that's residue from

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Speaker 5: being in survival mode just in life. So I just

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Speaker 4: A top tier.

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Speaker 5: I always got to be top tier. But my reference

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Speaker 5: to match that it's like, bro, no, you gotta get

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Speaker 5: got to take the Kobe route like you gotta every day,

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Speaker 5: how to sing on stage every day. So I'm learning

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Speaker 5: how when you don't prepare, if you don't get enough rest, if.

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Speaker 4: You don't pace yourself, you gas out.

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Speaker 5: I'm learning it in real time. So that's so I'm

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Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, what happened?

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Speaker 5: I thought I hadn't, you know, reaching for stuff that

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Speaker 5: you know, And then you know, the Booze are coming

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Speaker 5: and I'm like, WHOA.

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Speaker 4: What's all of it? So then that kind of messes

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Speaker 5: And when you don't have a person kind of like

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Speaker 5: walking you through that, I know, actually what happened was

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Speaker 4: I just don't think there was a awareness. It just

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Speaker 5: So by the time I got to you guys, you know,

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Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, So I wanted to I want to go

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Speaker 3: love to start the beginning. You said you didn't have

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Speaker 4: And I didn't go to school for in the schooling?

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Speaker 3: Where do you? Where does it start for you? Where

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Speaker 5: Like you know, when people start formulating opinions about about

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Speaker 5: younger years when you crack jokes and you ah ha,

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Speaker 5: you got a big head on and you got big feet,

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Speaker 5: your breathstick all that. And then the other side is,

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Speaker 5: You know, it's he could sing, you know when that

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Speaker 5: around that age, I give it about what eight nine

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Speaker 5: ten somewhere around then. And then the kids around me,

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking, you know, we singing tunes and stuff and

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Speaker 5: do you mean? Uh go, I can't do that, Like bruh,

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Speaker 5: what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Like, see, you just do this.

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Speaker 4: Fun fact.

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Speaker 5: When I graduated elementary school, they was supposed to be

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Speaker 5: generic music class. I wasn't really teaching this nothing, but

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Speaker 5: you know, God bless them, they had a regular like

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Speaker 5: The whole class was supposed to sing doing the graduation.

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Speaker 4: Balance. There we go. Yeah, that is I think.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad we're on this side. Thank you for being

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Speaker 3: Out of people who can't say listen fun to me,

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you some humble individual I ever met

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Speaker 3: But I say, I love my wife and nigga, But

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Speaker 5: But you gotta support them though, because we love them.

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Speaker 3: No, what I do with her, what I do with

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Speaker 4: There's notes are wrong, try a matter of fact style.

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Speaker 4: No, no facts.

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Speaker 5: I'm around people, they're not there. We all know this,

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Speaker 4: Makes the game. You know it's gonna be a fucked

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Speaker 5: They always capable of right, Always tell the double from

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Speaker 4: I'm sick of that tank brought somebody to the gym

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Speaker 3: That wasn't. He was talking like he could anyway.

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Speaker 4: So did you go to did you go to a

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: No, because I know obviously you're from Philly, and you

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Speaker 5: No grades weren't good enough. Oh, you have to have

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Speaker 4: I said, you just can't go in there with your talent.

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Speaker 5: No, first of all, nobody knew at first. Not only

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Speaker 5: I was in I was in learning disability.

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Speaker 4: For a few years. He was packing up, chacking up.

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Speaker 4: I was complete fool. I don't care. We don't he can.

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Speaker 5: It was not him, not him, he gonna take the pool. No, No,

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Speaker 5: we got geniuses over here. We don't need dis clown

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Speaker 5: when I say, we're paralleling right now.

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Speaker 4: No, I know. That's why every time I see you,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, Hey.

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Speaker 3: My seventh grade teacher said, if you take him and

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Speaker 3: never bring him back, I'll pass it. I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: Wow, get that, nigga, Wow out of here. Oh wow,

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Speaker 4: I didn't get that. I didn't get that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, may have a lot to do with the

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Speaker 4: You never get it to that. You know, God bless

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't think you know, it wasn't the priority.

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Speaker 5: I tell you trash. But it wasn't because the work

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Speaker 4: I just didn't care. You're boring, boring. We talk about

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Speaker 5: We talk about that, restructuring the curriculum. It's not that

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Speaker 4: Do the work. They aren't interested.

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Speaker 5: And you have to and I say this all the time,

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Speaker 5: and you should have options. You should have options to

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Speaker 5: worse when like me, I had a problem with authority.

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Speaker 5: I ain't nobody telling me nothing. I know, that's all kids. No,

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Speaker 5: I had a real problem with people telling me stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's so bad.

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Speaker 5: Even if I was on my way to do it,

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Speaker 5: if you told me, I bet you ain't never gonna

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 5: I'm not knowing that that's what I'm doing. When you're

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Speaker 5: you're just all reaction, You're just all You're just all reflexes.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Ain't no thought, ain't no what.

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Speaker 5: If someone would have met you where you were and

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Speaker 4: Have might have. Yeah, in that space, You're not wrong.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think I think a lot of times,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why.

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Speaker 5: So recently an opportunity presented itself to me through the

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Speaker 5: school out in Atlanta called Utopia Academy where you know, Yes,

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Speaker 5: I'm and I'm grateful that they, you know, folded me

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Speaker 5: He's gonna tell these kids are so bright.

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Speaker 4: Man, you will love them. Oh you will love them.

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Speaker 4: And they quick you know, and they get it.

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Speaker 5: But I'm saying that to say that if there was more,

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Speaker 5: you know, initiatives like that, to take take it by

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Speaker 4: We know where they are and we know what we

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Speaker 5: We have the we have the the vantage point to

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Speaker 4: And you know, the saying like you can't.

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Speaker 5: You can't judge a fish by its ability to fly,

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Speaker 5: like it don't make sense. As you're coming up during

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Speaker 4: Were you like.

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Speaker 5: Running in so fun fact, I wanted to be in

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Speaker 6: That earlier when you was making people be in your group.

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Speaker 3: That your group. Boy, it's wrong with you. I can

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Speaker 5: So you know, but there's that, there's that whole you know,

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Speaker 5: no low confidence thing because I didn't want to be

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, And plus I thought you

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Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, like now you know so and so,

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Speaker 5: Like nah, I never heard of him, Like man, you

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Speaker 5: So I got his number. So I got his number

443
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 5: and I called him.

444
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: I called him up.

445
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 4: I got it it is.

446
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 5: And uh and mind you, I'm paraphrasic because you know,

447
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 5: Timeline is hazy, you talk about almost thirty years for

448
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 5: So I called him up, Hello, who's this? I'm like, Hey,

449
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 5: it's just below, Yeah, who's this?

450
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: You know?

451
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's music, music, music? What music?

452
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 7: Who?

453
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, that's like my name.

454
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 5: And he asked me some obscure question like do you

455
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 5: know the the first person to ever call music music?

456
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: Or why it's called some.

457
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 5: I don't remember, but I'm like, who is this philosophical dude?

458
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 4: I just want to know if you're trying to be

459
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 4: in a group or not. Bro like it.

460
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 5: But I didn't understand how.

461
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 4: The levels level. And I pulled up to his crib

462
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 4: whatever you know, and you know it.

463
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 5: He asked me to sing something for him, and I

464
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 5: think I picked a Brian mcnight song and he hit

465
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 5: me with the okay, all right, and and I didn't understand,

466
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 5: like how dope he was. That's the thing. So that's

467
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 5: why I'm looking at him like what you own?

468
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 4: Man? I'm not understanding who is you?

469
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 5: You know? And I'm not getting it, you know, I'm like,

470
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 5: this dude is different, you know, not in a bad way.

471
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 5: It's just different, Like I'm what's happening right now? Because

472
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 5: I was used to the oh my god, you're a dope.

473
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 4: He ain't give me none of that.

474
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 5: He gave me and he gave me mine a little bit,

475
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 5: like Okay, we had a few runnings and it's like

476
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 5: we just talked, mostly talking, you know, and then one

477
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 5: day we pulled up to this I think it was

478
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 5: a jazz club.

479
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 4: It was a jazz theater. Actually it was a theater.

480
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: It was just a theater.

481
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 5: And he had a homeboy that played keys or whatever,

482
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 5: and you know, I met him there and Bro started singing.

483
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 6: I was like, this dude, at this point, you hadn't

484
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 6: even heard him sing, No.

485
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 4: Never heard him sing.

486
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 5: And this was the first time, like I actually heard

487
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 5: him sing.

488
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 4: I was like, what is why he dis me? That's

489
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 4: why I was like, what even is this?

490
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: Dude?

491
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: Man?

492
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 5: And just take it how you want to take it,

493
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 5: Like I'm in my mind, I had a thought like

494
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 5: this dude gotta be trolling everybody. He gotta be an angel,

495
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 5: just messing with everybody. Like his tone was so pure

496
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 5: and effortless, no, extremely just matter of fact. You want

497
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 5: to talk about top tier god teer vocal ability, and

498
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 5: from that moment I was like, yo, yeah, you you

499
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 5: you part of the group.

500
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it was interesting. We never actually talked

501
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: about it really, but I was like, oh, you definite

502
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 2: and you're going to do all the work, a whole

503
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: space for you. But clearly that never happened. So I

504
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: started recording basically within the first half of ninety nine.

505
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: Roughly most of the songs I made my first album

506
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: came from that time period. That's it now, Protident, I

507
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: haven't recorded. I ain't had no songs. I ain't had

508
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: no manager, I had no developmental process. I didn't have

509
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: a plan.

510
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 4: I didn't have no just open mics. Yeah, that was it.

511
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 5: People knew me, but I didn't have I ain't had

512
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 5: nothing going on.

513
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 4: And you walked straight into recording those.

514
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 5: Songs essentially, I mean, with the help of Carvon and

515
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 5: I were So you're recording those records before you get

516
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 5: your record deal, right.

517
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: I get a record deal from a phone call.

518
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 5: Well, I get an option, I'll get it. I get

519
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 5: a notification that there's a possibility of a potential record

520
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 5: deal through a phone call.

521
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: I'm in Atlanta. So here's the thing.

522
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 5: So the call was like, uh, you know, you got

523
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 5: a deal on the table. I was like deal, Okay,

524
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 5: what does that mean? You got a record deal?

525
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: Like with a label?

526
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: Like yeah, what?

527
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: And it was like with death Jam, we could probably

528
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 5: you know, I think it's it's a good shot.

529
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 3: You gonna have a you know, have a deal with

530
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: that job.

531
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: I was like with Russell Simmons, they were like, no, God,

532
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 4: you don't know nothing. No, that's not trying to tell

533
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 4: you brow what you're talking about. That's the only that

534
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: Jam I know, gone, be Gone, being gone, Ben go.

535
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: I know Russell Simmons and run thank you. That's it.

536
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 5: It's all I know. So they're like, bro, get back

537
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 5: to Philly. I'm like, all right, give me my ticket,

538
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 5: so I'll go back to Philly. I stayed with my

539
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 5: manager for the night because I was like, I'm just

540
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 5: like it.

541
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: It's like, no, you're gonna stay here until we get

542
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: the new Yors.

543
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 5: I need to know where you are that artist. Okay,

544
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 5: I'm clear now, Yeah, yeah, you get you get two

545
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: keys to the room, get two kids to Yeah, because

546
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 5: I'm coming in here and I'm getting you.

547
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

548
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 5: Okay, so we get the film and we get to

549
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 5: New York. I'm sitting in front of Kevin Lyles.

550
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: Like, why my hair? Well, you're not Russell sim I'm

551
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 4: not standing anything.

552
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: Red Man in the corner, I'm like, what is Broner?

553
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 8: Just Red?

554
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 3: Just right?

555
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: I'm more interested.

556
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 5: I want to talk to you. No, this meeting is

557
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 5: about you, bro, Like, what are you doing?

558
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: So I'm just green. I'm just I'm giving context.

559
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 5: On how I'm not knowing anything.

560
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: Did you have just a friend?

561
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you walk in the door, that's what That's

562
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 5: what I got it on. And that made the Nundy

563
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: Professor to soundtracks. It did, and that's why I had

564
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 5: to fly to l A. They couldn't put it on

565
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 5: the soundtrack because I wasn't a signed artist.

566
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: So somebody had the bright idea, well why don't.

567
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: We sign up? Yeah?

568
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 5: How it goes, how it goes, you know, I wasn't

569
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 5: in the building.

570
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: I wasn't you know, part of the conversation.

571
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 5: But you know, a mad mask think that you know,

572
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 5: And I'm just rolling with it because I'm gonna do

573
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 5: with my life. It was a Cinderella story essentially, and

574
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 5: midnight never came. I'm still I'm still lit, you know,

575
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 5: and I didn't know how to appreciate it at the

576
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 5: time because in my mind, I'm coming from you know,

577
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 5: seventies early eighties type process. I'm trying to do big

578
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: budgeted songs.

579
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 4: It's like, bro, you just got here.

580
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 5: Let's let's see how this. Try try to run ghosts

581
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 5: for you. You know, I'm making plans for my next album,

582
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 5: and so it's weird during the first album.

583
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the audacity, the idea.

584
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 6: So when you get your deal, I always like to ask,

585
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 6: what did you buy?

586
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 4: My first aime I bought was a house. First thing, Yeah,

587
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: because I was you know, like you said, you were

588
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: going from one. It was okay, it was okay. It

589
00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 4: was okay for having nothing now really is mad as

590
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: you because he didn't get no house out of here.

591
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 4: He wasn't able to get no house out there.

592
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 5: Let me rephrase, let me rephrase. I got an apartment. Okay,

593
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 5: it was an apartment. It wasn't a house. I'm just

594
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 5: calling it a house. It wasn't a house.

595
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: It was an apartment.

596
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 6: And this is your first place ever, you ever, ever, ever,

597
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 6: how old are you at this point?

598
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: I'm twenty two.

599
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 5: Record comes out, Record comes out. I just want to say,

600
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 5: it comes out. Was was the record of smash from

601
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 5: the rip or did it take so? So again I'm

602
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 5: not paying attention to none of that, because none of

603
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 5: that is even once you have the deal.

604
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: I don't know what any of this means.

605
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 5: I don't know what any I don't know what smash

606
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 5: hits and charting. I don't know what any of this means.

607
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 5: So you're not talking to anyone else. You're not talking

608
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 5: to Jill Scott, you're not asking them like.

609
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: You run into each other. Yeah here and there, but no,

610
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: so you kicked my ass.

611
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: And didn't even know.

612
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 5: No, you you were a victim of the machine, bro.

613
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: You know.

614
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: That, that's it.

615
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard what you said.

616
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 4: Okay, but you don't want to stay mad.

617
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: No machine in here on the pod.

618
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: But that death jam machine was right all right? All right?

619
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: And at that point, okay, are you phenomenally.

620
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: You wasn't. Wasn't they in the universal system? Yes? That

621
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: you wasn't.

622
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 5: That That's how you weren't. When I kicked it off,

623
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 5: I was in merger, okay. Yeah, and that's when I actually.

624
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: I ran into you.

625
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 5: I was.

626
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: Virgin.

627
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: So it's like we used to run into each other

628
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: because I would go earlier in the show, you will

629
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: go later.

630
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 9: Okay, you just you, just you quick woman, bang up me.

631
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 9: You don't walk you don't know you you walk away.

632
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: Damn I'm shaking you all.

633
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 5: Pard that's great and you were You're about to start

634
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 5: talking about this album, and I'm glad you're here, bro,

635
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 5: because I'm gonna take this woman to tell you, in

636
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: my opinion, it's my opinion, and I like to argue

637
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 5: my opinion too, but in my opinion, you have one

638
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 5: of the greatest R and B debuts ever ever.

639
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: To me, to me, got you? That album is special?

640
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: Got it? Thank you monstrous that I'm a special and

641
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: I used to listen to it. I'm like, shit, it

642
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: says really good. This is really really good.

643
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 5: And at the time, I'm purely I'm songwriting. I'm writing

644
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 5: for everybody and doing that whole thing, and I'm just like,

645
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 5: who's writing these songs?

646
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: I know because I was.

647
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 5: Reading you know what I'm saying like, then I'm reading it,

648
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 5: I'm reading the information and you know, the liner notes,

649
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: and then I meet draanvad out in Philly randomly.

650
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: I'm on a writer's trip.

651
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 5: I ended up meeting Uncle Mark Mark Buyers okay, And

652
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: at that same night I'm working with Drama Out, I

653
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 5: meet Sean from Voice to Men. Oh, this is when

654
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 5: we this is when that becomes my guy and we

655
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 5: become friends. But to me, Philly neo soul, Philly neo.

656
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: So you're my guy for that. I'm like, oh, this

657
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 5: this is special. What he's doing is special and it

658
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 5: and I relate to so much of it, Like I

659
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 5: would hear my regular listen to the radio songs were going,

660
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 5: then my song will come on. It's like, you know,

661
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 5: nothing sounded like and then at the end of that

662
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 5: go to another song, like what which is that the

663
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 5: other quote unquote neo? So you didn't sound like and

664
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: it happened to it was happening to me as the person.

665
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 5: And I'm listening like does this fit?

666
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: Like y'all sure about that?

667
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: You know? I like it.

668
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 4: I think it's dope. I don't think.

669
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 5: It's like one of these things is not like the other.

670
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 5: And people were just rolling with it. And because people

671
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 5: were rolling with I was like, all right, cool, I

672
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 5: ain't gonna say that me too. It's just gonna keep

673
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 5: playing it cool. But I'm not understanding how different what

674
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 5: I'm doing is. I'm doing it according to and people

675
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 5: are rolling with it, and I'm like, all right, bet

676
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 5: if we all just gonna play along, cool, I'm rolling

677
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 5: with it.

678
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 4: It worked, It worked, bro.

679
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 5: It wasn't until later, if I'm being honest, completely honest, recently,

680
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 5: that I learned how to appreciate how everything happened. That's

681
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 5: just that's just special, man, because a lot of people

682
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: don't have that outlet. And for you to have that

683
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 5: outlet and for you to give us what you've given

684
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 5: us in this music thing.

685
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 4: Bro, it's great. Man.

686
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 5: Music saved my life and I'm indebted to music, you know, immensely,

687
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 5: you know, And that's why I honor it so much

688
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 5: and worked so hard because I feel like that's how

689
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: I pay you back.

690
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, by being a good steward. Yeah, the best that

691
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: I can be.

692
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 5: That's why I'm it's never I'm never in competition with nobody,

693
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 5: not because I feel like folks it's beneath me. Is

694
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 5: because no, my mission is to get better than me.

695
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 5: I'm always if you check my timeline, I'm always in

696
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 5: support of everybody.

697
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: I know.

698
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 5: It would frustrate, you know, the red carpet because I

699
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: wouldn't give them a specific I do.

700
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 4: I'm here for everybody.

701
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, now I'll tell you the highlights that I'm looking for,

702
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 5: but I'm here for everybody. It would in order crap

703
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 5: out of folks when I would never answer the question,

704
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 5: you know, antagonistically who I got beef with or whatever,

705
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 5: rather directly or indirect. No, I'm literally a fan of everybody, legit.

706
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: Every time I meet people have to learn how to

707
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: stop doing that shit too. Giving people.

708
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 5: Sometimes people don't know how to receive flowers even when

709
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 5: you're giving it to them, because they're looking at you

710
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 5: like fucks you nigga. Like I'm like, okay, all right,

711
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 5: never minded, you know. But if I could, I would

712
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 5: not only tell people you know that I support them

713
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 5: and I love what they do. I would tell them

714
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: why because I'm paying attention. I got time for this,

715
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 5: you know. So if I don't know about anybody else,

716
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: but if I'm in your face and I'm giving you yours,

717
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 5: understand that it's connected to a reason that I got.

718
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 5: I got I got time to talk with you about

719
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 5: it because I want to because I'm like, dude, do

720
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 5: you know what you just did? Like that's dope, that's

721
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 5: you know, but I know I learn the hard way.

722
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 5: You can't be that way everybody, because everybody everybody. And

723
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 5: it's like all right, all right, all right, all right,

724
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 5: I don't get a twisted I'm not devoid of understanding that.

725
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 5: I'm me too, bro, Like I'm just trying to give

726
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 5: you yours.

727
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 6: Sure, So so were you the Is it true? It's

728
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 6: but somewhat of a rumor, but not not a rumor? No,

729
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 6: because what what was that?

730
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 5: No?

731
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: No, no, listen, listen, listen you listen. I've been listening to.

732
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 6: Abusing No no, no, Seriously, though there was a rumor of.

733
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 5: You and fabulous trading record trade off. Yeah, is that

734
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 5: a real thing? So as it was related to me

735
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 5: is because I was on Depth Jam and he was

736
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: on Atlantic, which was one was R and B one

737
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 5: was Yeah, okay, keV Kevin Laws had to Manata has

738
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 5: since left death to go to Atlantic. Yeah okay, Well

739
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 5: he went to Warner. Yeah, he went to Warner and

740
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 5: pulled up on me at the corner somewhere in New

741
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: York just randomly like hey, and he's like hey, bro,

742
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 5: blah blah, I don't know. We somehow found ourselves on

743
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 5: the corner in New York and so house things over

744
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: you know over there because uh I call him Sean

745
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 5: Carter jay Z was over there. You know, he was

746
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 5: running it over there, and you know, something was cool

747
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 5: and it's no different for me. It's like I'm at

748
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 5: a label and I'm doing my job, you know.

749
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: So he's like, yo, how is it.

750
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, it's cool, you know what I'm saying school

751
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 5: And he was like, well, I mean, like, what did

752
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: you think about, you know, being over you know, over

753
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 5: here with me?

754
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I mean that'll work too in different understand.

755
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna do a job. Man, I just want

756
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 4: to do my job. Literally, don't disrespect.

757
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: You.

758
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: Weren't invested in that side of it. So he was like, okay,

759
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: all right, well we'll hold that thought. I'll get back

760
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: to you.

761
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, good, So about a year or

762
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 5: two or something like that, you know, crickets and then

763
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 5: he gets afreshal it gets back to me and like, yo,

764
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 5: so I think I got it.

765
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: You know, I want to bring you over here.

766
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 5: I want you to be you know, on this label,

767
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 5: you know, and you know, paraphrasing, you know, whatever, you

768
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 5: know what you think, And I'm like, bet why not

769
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: you was there from the beginning. Who better to be

770
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 5: with than wis you? I mean, I'm not miserable over here,

771
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 5: like I could figure it out over here. But later

772
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 5: I found out, I mean not too far later, but

773
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 5: later I found out. Essentially what happened was a conversation

774
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 5: was had and they settled on well, bros.

775
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 4: Over there and he's over there.

776
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 5: I want him over here, and I think that he

777
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 5: would be a betefit over there.

778
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 6: So the first ever music trade. Wow, they're making a trade,

779
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 6: said I had.

780
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 5: It was never a confirmed thing. Yeah, so I'm like, look,

781
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 5: when I meet this man, go ask him about that train.

782
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 5: And so again that's according to the information that was

783
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 5: related to me. And that's and then when it later

784
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 5: came out that, you know, the confirmation for it, and

785
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 5: I was like, oh so it.

786
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: Really did go that way.

787
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 4: Oh okay, cool, that's why. Yeah, that's crazy trade.

788
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 6: Who you would have been traded for?

789
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: What rapper?

790
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: Because you had been traded for I'm trying to think, man,

791
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 4: think man.

792
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: At my time, lady p d poblo.

793
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 5: Okay, anyway, So now here's another that's hard though, when

794
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 5: I love p D.

795
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 4: Polo.

796
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 3: I loved we used to be on Hell of Summer

797
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: Jams nice and I remember being in North Carolina and

798
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: there g Bro frequently and he starts playing that show.

799
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: And when I say a.

800
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 6: Zoo real energy, a zoo performer, I'm like.

801
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: I'm next.

802
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 4: I don't understand.

803
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: Why Am I next? Put somebody? Won't you put somebody?

804
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 4: Get somebody else to do it.

805
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: It's like, now you next, get some more baby.

806
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 10: Anyway, back to the it's gonna be one of the nuts.

807
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 5: We're here now.

808
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: We uh we?

809
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we celebrate your brother. You know

810
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 5: that I consider your friend and a brother and colleague.

811
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 4: Definitely. Definitely.

812
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: I've always had the utmost respect for your gift and

813
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: for you because ever since i've known you, stay one.

814
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've been you.

815
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: Yep.

816
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 5: I don't know how to be nothing else.

817
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's always it's always been solid,

818
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: majorly solid, man. So I appreciate you for that. As

819
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: we talk about that, this guy, oh you ain't on me. No,

820
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 3: I hate this guy.

821
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: He's in his blood moment right music, Okay.

822
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: Top five of.

823
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: Your top five.

824
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Top five.

825
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: Top five r.

826
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: And B sing guys.

827
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: R n B some.

828
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: Music, your music.

829
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 4: Your your top yard yr High yeah yeah.

830
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, your top by yah yahoo, okay.

831
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 5: Top five.

832
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: Music bro, your top five.

833
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 7: The High yeah yeah yeah yeah, your top five R

834
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 7: n B singer.

835
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 5: Top five R and B singers, DONNYE, Stevie Marvin. Get

836
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 5: that off the way, which leaves me with two.

837
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 4: Is it cheating if I say all three of those

838
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 4: are one? Yes? Okay, So, but.

839
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: There's too many your music, so if you want to

840
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: make them one, you can make them when we have

841
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 3: somebody come on the pod and do like eight names.

842
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: So it's just disrespected the whole format of what I'm

843
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: trying to do.

844
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 5: I'm not working on eight names, so I'm not trying

845
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 5: to respect you heavily with your your strategically curated format.

846
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: You so do your thing, man, right, So do you think.

847
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just gonna because I think it's an unfair

848
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 5: thing to kind of like alright, So that.

849
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: Leaves me with four?

850
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 5: Yes, all right, you just it's going along, but he

851
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: really hot.

852
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: Understand how this outs?

853
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 5: Just they gonna come over here and tell me I

854
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 5: don't run my shot. You know, we know we deal

855
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 5: with people.

856
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: Your top nine.

857
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: I don't know, it might be something to that. Y'all

858
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: like to you know, put us up, put us on

859
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: the pressure cooker.

860
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 5: It's too many, man, so let me retrack that and

861
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 5: start over and do it right, all right, Stevie Wonder.

862
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 4: Sha Ka Khan blow Jasmine Sullivan.

863
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: H hurt.

864
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: A little bit, A little bit, A little bit, Bro,

865
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 4: this is hard. You can give fu. Yeah, it's hard.

866
00:46:53,040 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: Go Why is you laughing?

867
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: We're not editing. I can see the meaning.

868
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: Ya got, y'all, y'all gotta edit this show. Y'all gotta

869
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: edit this.

870
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 5: This is ridiculous. We gotta most so, most so, most

871
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 5: of the episode is just gonna be dead air like, No,

872
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 5: that's not fair.

873
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: In my head, they can help me.

874
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 4: Your Wow, you're while okay? This is great, m Brandy

875
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: hm hm hm hmm. I was worth the way.

876
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 5: That's where I landed on so many it was worth.

877
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 5: But that's when I just said, I can't stop. I mean,

878
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 5: I can't wait. I gotta just pay. You can't be mad,

879
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 5: brand That's a great man, all right. Top five R

880
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 5: and B Songs Because We're Not There. R and B Songs,

881
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 5: Top five R and B Songs Sweet Love Anita Baker

882
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 5: mm hmmm, Yes, sir, Overjoyed, Stevie Wonder Soul Sister Below

883
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 5: mm hmmm, Special Record, Lions, Tigers and Bears, Jasmine mhmm.

884
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: They don't know John B Classic Class, Big.

885
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 6: All Time Records, All Time all Time record.

886
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: Wow. Yes, I just got to this class. You tell

887
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 4: me it's a pop quiz. I ain't cracked the book open,

888
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: you know, but I.

889
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 3: Just I just feel like the way the way you

890
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: went through the time was great, and we're gonna use that.

891
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 4: I really, I really feel like you're trolling me, but.

892
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: None of know. I'm telling you the truth. We're going

893
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: to use that time they told me I could. All right,

894
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: here we go, Here we go. Hmmm, we're making a

895
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: vultron Okay, all right m hm. So we want to

896
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: build your R and B singer. We want to know

897
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: who you're going to get the vocal from, who you're

898
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: going to get the performance style from, who you're going

899
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 3: to get the styling from, and who you're going to

900
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: get the passion of the artists from. So let's start

901
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: with the vocal to build your R and B artists.

902
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 3: Who are you grabbing the vocal from? There's so many

903
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: factors just one.

904
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 4: But m hmm, Marvin Donnye, Stevie, I could mar Uh

905
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: you know the first three headed monster.

906
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 5: No, I'm just gonna save myself and say, Stevie wonder hmm.

907
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna save myself.

908
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 3: How do you lose?

909
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 4: No, No, I know, but I just feel like it's

910
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a. It's a. It's a. It's

911
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 4: not a cop out, all right? Cool? No performance style

912
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: performance Toby. I know he's not R and B.

913
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 10: I know he's not your trunk Toby. Great energy styling, Okay, Toby, uh.

914
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: Putting that ship?

915
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 5: Oh, Andre.

916
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 4: Stacks mm hmm. I know I'm going hip hop for

917
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 4: R and B.

918
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 5: I know that that's I'm a hip hop solrist. So

919
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 5: it's like what you want to put the shoulder paths

920
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 5: on the passion of the artist. M okay, Andre uh

921
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 5: stax his passion.

922
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 3: We know what that is? Nice? I like it.

923
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 4: Nice, I like it.

924
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it. I ain't saying no names,

925
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: saying no man. Yeah, I'm saying no names. I'm saying

926
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 3: name was who was weird? What you did? Don't say?

927
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 3: She ain't saying no nigga. I ain't saying no nerve.

928
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 4: Special secmdent special special special second, I don't hold on hold,

929
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: don't play old, non't play old. We know no, you know,

930
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 4: we know you know, and we already know you have

931
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: hard times with names. You should be really good at

932
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 4: that you're talking about.

933
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: We need a good story, baby.

934
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 4: Okay, funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up?

935
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: Got you the travels of music? Tell us about it?

936
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 5: What I was saying, No name, Yes, I can't think

937
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 5: of one right now, Come on music, So child gotta

938
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 5: be able to tell us a story without saying a name.

939
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 5: So one day I did a show at House of Blues,

940
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 5: very early in my career. I was still bubbling up.

941
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 5: Can't place the year, But it was brought to my

942
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 5: attention that a certain artists, Can I say what they were?

943
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

944
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 5: Absolutely, A certain artist participated in my show in the audience, and.

945
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 4: They pronounced they were.

946
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 5: Such a huge fan of mine. I guess in the

947
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 5: moment that they were willing to find their.

948
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: Way backstage.

949
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 5: And wait for me to come out of my dressing

950
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 5: room after the show and sit on the floor. Now

951
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 5: that means absolutely nothing, because you don't know who I'm

952
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 5: talking about. However, if I could say the name, it

953
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 5: would that would be a big deal. That they were

954
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 5: sitting on the floor waiting for me to come out

955
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 5: of my dressing room. I guess just to meet me

956
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 5: and say what's.

957
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 4: Up and so forth. Did they meet you? Yeah, I

958
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: think I think we met. No, I think we met

959
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 4: did I Did I meet them? Yeah?

960
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: I met them, talked.

961
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 4: There's a hazy and.

962
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 5: To know who they are now would be really oh

963
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 5: really really yeah, and they all right, now you're for exercise.

964
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 4: So it wasn't funny or fucked up. It was a

965
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 4: low key flex like that, yeah on arm b money,

966
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 4: I see. Yeah, I know, because you.

967
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 5: And I didn't realize at the time how big of

968
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 5: a flex it was because you know, not thinking like that.

969
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 5: But in hindsight, yeah, one could you know, stretch some

970
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 5: biceps on that one.

971
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: So to morrow of the.

972
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: Story is.

973
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 11: If you do good, they wait for you come on that,

974
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 11: even on the floor, even on the floor, even on

975
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 11: the floor. What did Yeah, yeah, you know, somebody sit

976
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 11: on the floor for you.

977
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 4: Probably I'm gonna give me some of that.

978
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give me that. I don't know if anybody

979
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: a prominent yeah, you know, a prominence that is set

980
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: on the floor.

981
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 4: That's flexible.

982
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 3: That's flexible and not not not in being work with

983
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 3: a book, not in the yoga sense, you know, but

984
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: flexible to that. You know that there are levels to

985
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 3: flow weight. Thank you. Congratulations on the new album. We'll

986
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: be supporting that, Army Money. We'll be promoting that.

987
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 4: Thank you.

988
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: I'll be promoting that.

989
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 4: Thank you.

990
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: I'll be listening to it.

991
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 4: I'll be looking, you know, see.

992
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: More of you on the road.

993
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 4: Thank you. Sure we're gonna you.

994
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: Know, we always find ourselves on somebody's show doing something

995
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: and then.

996
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 5: We figure out how to you know, how to do

997
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 5: more of it on purpose? Man, Yeah, yeah, yeah and

998
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 5: in the right way. Shouts out to the SOO so

999
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 5: tour I'm currently on with Canon letocy. Yeah, excited, congratulations

1000
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 5: to be back outside.

1001
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: Can stop love thing you.

1002
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you get to.

1003
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: It when I'm in, when I'm in the affairs wheel. Okay,

1004
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: I think about us.

1005
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 4: Sit down.

1006
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: I have to close you out. Ladies and gentlemen.

1007
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: My name is.

1008
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: And this is the Army Money Podcast.

1009
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 4: The authority on all things R and B.

1010
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: One of the coldest, one of the truest to it

1011
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: one of my absolute favorites. Man, I've just been in

1012
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: the building now, I got so much love respecting that. Man,

1013
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 3: This is music, So.

1014
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 5: R and B Money. R and B Money is a

1015
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 5: production of the Black Effect podcast Network. For more podcasts

1016
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1017
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,759
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