1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: This is Patriots Draft Countdown presented by bud Light. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to an NFL draft hosted. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 3: By the writers of Patriots dot Com. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: From now until you here the New England Patriots. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 4: Watch the countdown is on. 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Patriots Draft Countdown presented by bud Light. 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 4: Welcome everybody to Patriots Draft Countdown presented by bud Light, 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 4: Easy to Drink, Easy to Enjoy, bud Light, the official 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 4: beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. And we're back 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 4: for another episode. Guys here with the latest news. Not 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 4: a lot going on this week, but we're going to 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 4: drill down a little bit on some mock drafts. And 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 4: let's start off, Evan with the Pro Days. 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 5: You were out BC. 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: Earlier this week, checking it out, Update, Pro Day Update, 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 4: love it. 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot going on right now with Pro Days. Really, 18 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 3: this is when the big schools start to get in 19 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: their Pro Days. Actually, as we're taping this, Mike Rabel 20 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: is at Texas to check out Calvin Banks and Matthew 21 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: Golden and Isaiah Bond and all the Longhorn talent. So 22 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: he's at Boston College on Monday with yours truly, and 23 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: then he got on a plane and went down to 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: Texas and now he's in Texas today. So this is 25 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: a big time of year to really get some FaceTime 26 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 3: with some of these prospects. 27 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 6: Mike, just to be clear, I don't think Mike Rabel 28 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 6: was at BC's pro day to check out Evan. 29 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: They both along with yours, they happened to both be there. 30 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: Then I was also there. 31 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 5: I want to make sure the viewers thank you for 32 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 5: the clarification. 33 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: Pologists were what were your takeaways though some obviously some 34 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: players of interest maybe to the Patriots there PC. 35 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Doug Maron, the Patriots offensive line coach, was pretty 36 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: hands on with some of the stuff with Ozzie Trapilo's 37 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: a third round, second third round tackle from Boston College. 38 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: Offensive tackle, so he played on the right side mostly 39 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: at BC, played a lot of right tackle, but he's 40 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: been training with Dante Scarneckia. I might have heard of him, 41 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: and they've been training on both sides, you know, left 42 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: and right, And his path through a roster spot and 43 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: just sticking in the league is probably swing tackle with 44 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: maybe a ceiling of a starting right tackle. So he's 45 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: trying to make it right now in that swing tackle 46 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: role initially, so I can tell that he's working on everything. 47 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: And Donovan Azaruko, their pass rusher, is kind of the 48 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: big name. He didn't participate in the drills going he 49 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: was at the Combine Senior Bowl. Has already done his 50 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: thing for this circuit. But he's projected to go in 51 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 3: the first round. Some people say it's early as top 52 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: twenty potentially at sixteen and a half sacks last year 53 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: at PC, so he's a very good player. A couple 54 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: of linemen center Drew Kendall, there's a lot of lignemen 55 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: at BC this time around. I would say that are 56 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: interested across the league. 57 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 6: That's the key takeaway there for BC. Not exactly a 58 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 6: football hot bat up here. You know, in New England, 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 6: we don't do college football the way you know certainly 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 6: they do down South. But offensive line has been a 61 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 6: very fruitful position for that program. They have a lot 62 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 6: of good ones in the league and it sounds like 63 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 6: they have at least one solid Day two prospect in 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 6: Tapello and a lot of people like Drew Kendall as well. 65 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 6: Like Kevin said, so do not sleep on the BC lineman. 66 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was just a little bit more behind the scenes. 67 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: Chris Linstrom was actually in attendance for the Pro Day 68 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: and he had a long conversation with Mike Rabel. I 69 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: believe Tyler Vrabel might have overlapped with Lindstrom at Boston College, 70 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: so maybe he knew of Lindstrom already from that. But 71 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: he's obviously one of those linemen that Paul's talking about 72 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: in Atlanta's Fantastic Guard for the Falcons. 73 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: So guys, let's move on here to You know, it 74 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 4: seems like not a lot happens in the spring. We 75 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: know the major events, the Combines, the Pro Days, but 76 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 4: yet still there's like an up and down and Evan 77 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: flowed to the mock draft season and who the Patriots 78 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: might get. I came back from the Combine a couple 79 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: of weeks ago and felt like, man, there's no way 80 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: they're getting. 81 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 5: Carter or Hunter. You know, tis now what kind of 82 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: feels like? 83 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: I mean, And I don't know what's changed nothing, but 84 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: according to the mock drafts, maybe they have a chance 85 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: to some of those guys. Is that positive development for 86 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: the Patriots doesn't mean anything. 87 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 7: I think the things that's changed in the past week 88 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 7: is that the Titans are showing more interest than cam 89 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 7: Ward and then Shader is wanting to go to New York, 90 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 7: which means Travis Hunter or Carter is going to be there. 91 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 7: Before you didn't know what the Browns were going to 92 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 7: do or the Titans, So it just kind of is 93 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 7: up in the ya. All the experts are saying something else, 94 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 7: but it really feels like you can get Hunter or Carter. 95 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 5: So Paul, like the question is, though. 96 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 6: I'm starting to get excited about man, you don't even 97 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 6: have to ask me the question, because I do think 98 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 6: if there's an opportunity there that you can get one 99 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 6: of those two guys, I think that's the dream scenario 100 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 6: for the Patriots. Otherwise you're really putting a half dozen 101 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 6: or so guys in a box and just saying which 102 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 6: one do I prefer? Because I think the clear two 103 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 6: top prospects are Carter and Hunter. If one of those 104 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 6: two guys slips, and we're seeing a lot of mocks 105 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 6: now that have the Patriots taking one of those two 106 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 6: guys at. 107 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: Four, let's talk to A good topic came up this 108 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: week on Patriots on Filter that I thought we haven't 109 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: really considered, and that is, if Carter Hunter were there, 110 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 4: did the Patriots consider trading down it was you know, 111 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: someone called in had a question. 112 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: Evan. 113 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: I thought you had a great response because initially I said, well, 114 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: if you have two potentially transcendent players, you gotta take one. 115 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 4: But as you laid out, maybe there's a package that 116 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 4: could make sense for the Patriots to trade down even 117 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: if they are there. 118 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't fault them if they took either player, 119 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: hold it against them one bit. I would not trade 120 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: out of the Travis Hunter pick. If Travis Hunter is there, 121 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: I think their need at wide receiver coupled with his 122 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 3: talent is just so overwhelmingly positive to make him the pick. 123 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: With Abdul Carter, I love the player, Abdul card has 124 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: nothing to do with his talent, but it feels a 125 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: little bit like the cherry on top of a good 126 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: offseason for the defense and the offense is really gonna 127 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: be shorthanded. I just don't see how you come out 128 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: of this draft where they starting caliber left tackle and 129 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: a receiver that can make an impact if you're not 130 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: using your top pick on one of those two positions. 131 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: So I look at the trade down scenario that the 132 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: Texans got, for example, for Will Anderson, or the Texans 133 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: used to get Will Anderson with the Arizona pick they 134 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: traded to the Cardinals move up nine spots in that draft. 135 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: They gave up a second round pick and a future 136 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: first round pick to move up those nine spots. If 137 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: you're the Patriots in Chicago, calls who has two second 138 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: round picks in this draft, and they offer you their 139 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: second round pick and their twenty twenty six first round 140 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: pick to go from four to ten, do you consider that? 141 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: If you say no, then that's totally fair. But if 142 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: it's Carter alone on the board and that's a package 143 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: that comes across your desk, I think you have to 144 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: consider it. 145 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. 146 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: What do you think, Paul about trading down? 147 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, And here's the thing. Do you feel like Carter 148 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 6: and Hunter are just head and shoulders the best players 149 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 6: in this draft? Or do you think that they're special 150 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 6: players in any draft? And I think that's a distinction 151 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 6: that needs to be made. My gut reaction would be 152 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 6: to take Carter if I had my choice of anybody 153 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 6: in this draft. I think he's going to be a 154 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 6: special player. I think that those athletic edge guys are 155 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 6: very important and they're worthy of taking in the top five. 156 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 6: But when Evan started talking about it during the week 157 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 6: when we talked on Patriots Unfiltered. He makes a compelling 158 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 6: argument that if you can add a second round pick, 159 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 6: and all of a sudden you have those extra picks 160 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 6: in Day two, and then you add a future first 161 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 6: round pick. I've never really considered the idea of a 162 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 6: trade down that involved the team trading up being able 163 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 6: to draft either Carter or a Hunter, and so I 164 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 6: have automatically diminished the value of that trade. Well, it 165 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 6: was one of those two guys is available, you might 166 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 6: be able to get what Evan's talking about. 167 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think? 168 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: I know you and Chris have kicked around some trade scenarios. 169 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 7: I think I think you take Hunter Carter's option one 170 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 7: A one B there. On the mock draft simulator we're 171 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 7: using a lot of the trades aren't really including future 172 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 7: first round pick. So if you can get a next 173 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 7: year pick and swap this year and get a second maybe, 174 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 7: but I think it's just a little risky and you 175 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 7: can get the blue chip prospect there. 176 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not doing it unless that first round pick 177 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: is involved. The future first round pick I should say too, 178 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: if it's if there's no twenty twenty six first round pick. 179 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: Then I'm taking the player and happily taking the player. 180 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: I just this team has a lot of holes, specifically 181 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the ball, and if you 182 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: keep hammering high assets on defense, you're gonna have all 183 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: your free agency money spent on defense. You're gonna have 184 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: the fourth overall pick spent on defense. At some point, 185 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: you got to give Drake Mason hell on the offense 186 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: side of the ball. 187 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 7: What's up, everybody, We're back again for the mock draft 188 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 7: segment of the Patriots Draft. 189 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 5: Count On podcast presented by Bud Light Chris. 190 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 7: We were just talking about latest news and Paul and 191 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 7: Duce brought up a good point that the Patriots, now 192 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 7: there's some potential trade scenarios because as we've heard cam Ward, 193 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 7: the Titans are showing more interest. Shoulder might go to 194 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 7: the Giants. So if those two go, that means Hunter 195 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 7: and orc Harder are going to be available. 196 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 197 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 7: So that being said, like if you're a team and 198 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 7: you could trade you know, one and next year's one 199 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 7: and a two, like the Patriots. 200 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 5: Could maybe do that, I think so. 201 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, But that being said, we both I don't want 202 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 7: to trade I want to take one of the players. 203 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so definitely, we both have talked about that ahead 204 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: of this show, and I think you know, the Patriots 205 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: are in a really good spot. Yes, they have picks 206 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: to leverage trade scenarios. For example, I mean talking about 207 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: Brandon I you somehow still available this year, second year 208 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: in a Rowers name's flowing around if you want to 209 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: maybe use one of those thirds, maybe second if he's 210 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: worth it, try to work that into a package for 211 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk. But you know, there's all there's a whole 212 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: lot of scenarios you can break down. But I know 213 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: for me and you, we'd like to just let them, 214 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: let them have a natural. 215 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 5: Draft, Okay. 216 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 7: And guys, so that being said, we're gonna do a 217 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 7: three round mock, and that means we have four picks. Yea, 218 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 7: four picks. So Chris, I'll let you do your your four, 219 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 7: then I'll do my. 220 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 5: We'll discuss. 221 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. So Chris Cassid mock Draft one. 222 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Point oh one four Travis Hunter, Gay Travis Hunter, second 223 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: round pick, Ariante ERSI the tackle at of Minnesota, first 224 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: pick of round three. 225 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: Uh j T. 226 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my best on this one. Two Moloau 227 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: and the third round seventy seventh overall pick Isaiah Bond 228 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: from Texas. The receiver also played at Alabama in twenty 229 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty twenty two. 230 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: But those are my Those are. 231 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: My four guys off the board for the Patriots in 232 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: rounds one through three. 233 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 5: Cool. 234 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 7: And so that being said, Chris, like a lot happens, 235 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 7: we use out mock draft database, and so when I 236 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 7: did mine, I just want to announce the first three picks, 237 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 7: which was cam Ward Shader Sanders and righty for this 238 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 7: Jalen Milroe. So that love Hunter and Carter on the board. 239 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: Sneaky. There might be better quarterbacks, but. 240 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 7: It was just interesting. Look at Thatbby said. I took 241 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 7: Carter at the number four pick, Penn State edge rusher. 242 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 7: Patriots need that. That's a potentially generational edge rusher. In 243 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 7: the second round, this is where it gets interesting. I 244 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 7: took Trey Amos from Ole, miss who I mentioned in 245 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 7: last week's episode. Just hitting the corner there, because you 246 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 7: know you miss it with Hunter. With the third round 247 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 7: pick Wyatt Millum, offensive tackle from West Virginia, YEP. And 248 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 7: then the third the third third round pick is Jane 249 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 7: Higgins from Iowa State. So, as Evan Lazari has said, 250 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 7: this needs to be a fairway draft for the Patriots. 251 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 5: You get your edge rusher, cornerback. 252 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 7: I know we just signed Carlton Davis, but you know 253 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 7: you can always find space for those guys there. 254 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: It needs to be a heavy need draft. 255 00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 5: YEP. 256 00:10:58,920 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: That's what it has to. 257 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: Be for the Patriots this year and again starting with 258 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: my first overall pick at Travis Hunter. I know you 259 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: have Abdual Carter, so it's good that we got to 260 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: have both of those, the both of those topics. But 261 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, I mean the wide receiver numbers that he 262 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: put up this past year at Colorado, we're just absolutely insane. 263 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: Like for him to go out there, he had fifteen 264 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: touchdowns over twelve hundred, twelve hundred yards and ninety six receptions. 265 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: Ninety six receptions like that, that is an insane number. 266 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: He's your primary target, shooter is primary target obviously, but 267 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: like someone putting up those numbers and then going to 268 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: play defensive back and I having four interceptions and I 269 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: think it was eleven pass deflections this year, like like 270 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: that's it's so impressive to me that someone could do 271 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: that on both sides of the ball, Like, I don't 272 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: know how you can't go with best available. So if 273 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: a duel Carter and Travis Hunter somehow are both on 274 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: the board in that situation, like I don't know how 275 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: you choose, you know what I mean, But for me, 276 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: it would be trying. 277 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 5: Like I said, it's option one, A, one B. 278 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 7: The cornerback situation for Trey Amos, like that is just 279 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 7: he jumped to the sec he was with the raging 280 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 7: Cajuns in Louisiana then he went to Bama. I just 281 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 7: with the way the mock was working and the board was, 282 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 7: that was what I thought was the best player on 283 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 7: the board. They also had Josh Simmons from Ohio State, 284 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 7: who he just blew out his knee last year, and 285 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 7: so I think it's just a bit risky to use 286 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 7: that high second round pick on a player that might 287 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 7: not be ready yet. So that's why I went for 288 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 7: the tackle In the third round. Wyatt Milan played a 289 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 7: bit of right tackle, bit of left and like, let's 290 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 7: I don't know. 291 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 5: If he's gonna be a Day one guy, but he 292 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 5: was the best tackle. 293 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: But what's good with Milan for your first third round pick? 294 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean he really did play primarily at left tackle, 295 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: and that's what the Patriots need to fill. And for me, 296 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: that's why I have it going a little bit earlier. 297 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: I think that's a much more important position. The need 298 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: to get a little bit higher up, especially in the 299 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: second round, if you're not going to go in the 300 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: first round with a tackle. I think arianta Ursie. I 301 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: mean he's a stud. He played his last thirty eight 302 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: games of his career at Minnesota at left tackle. He 303 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: knows the position. He's six six, he's like three hundred 304 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: and fifty pounds, he's earth three hundred and fifteen pounds. 305 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: Are a big boy, yeah, And I mean he's got 306 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: good quickness, good Agility's kind of get off the edge. 307 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: You need. 308 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: You need someone to protect your quarterback. You need someone 309 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: to protect Drake May. You got Morgan Moses on the 310 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: other side, Ursery on the other on the left. 311 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 312 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 7: So let's get to the receivers. You had Isaiah Bond, 313 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 7: I had Higgins. Now, Chris, I'm gonna say, I'm I'm 314 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 7: not giving up hope on the current Patriots receivers yet. 315 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 7: No Polk, it was only his first year. Last year 316 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 7: could have been an anomaly Stefan Diggs, He's visited. Like, listen, 317 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 7: if if I don't think we need the receiver that 318 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 7: high unless it's Travis Hunter. Other than that, Like, I'm 319 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 7: fine with giving these guys another chance because at the 320 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 7: end of the day, it's not gonna be a one 321 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 7: year fix. Yes, you want to you want to see progression. 322 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 7: If you if you hit on somebody in the fourth 323 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 7: round like a Higgins are a Bond, awesome, But I 324 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 7: don't think if it's not Carter, it doesn't need to 325 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 7: be that high. 326 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, for me, the appeal for Isaiah Bond. 327 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: He was kind of in the shadows of Matthew Golden 328 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: this past year Texas Matthew going almost a thousand yard receiver, 329 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: had nine touchdowns over there for the Longhorns. You know, 330 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: at Alabama, he was behind Jermaine Burton now currently at 331 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. But he's a guy, he's versatile. He 332 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: had almost I think seven undred yards from scrimmagers, but 333 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: I think it six d and forty one yards of scrimmages. 334 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: Past year. 335 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: He ran the ball multiple times, multiple touchdowns rushing. He 336 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: had six touchdowns receiving this year. 337 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: You know, the Patriots sort of have that type of versatility. 338 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: Five eleven. 339 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: He's a little bit short, but he's got burner speed, 340 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: pop Douglas esque body build. But you could throw him 341 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: on the outside and he could be effective. You know, 342 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: he has that four three nine forty yard dash speed, 343 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: that burner mentality, you know, just down the sideline, hit 344 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: and pair deep all soo, you. 345 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: Know he has all the factors to be a wide 346 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: receiver that it can show plenty of production in the NFL. 347 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 7: Ye, No, it's it's listening you just fourth round is 348 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 7: the meat of the draft. You want ahead of these guys. 349 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 7: They need to be productive and that's all that matters. 350 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 7: But Chris, I'd be good with either of these mocks. 351 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely absolutely, And I didn't. I want to touch 352 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: on j T Again'm gonna try it again tooy Moloau. 353 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: You know, all first seem big tens past year for 354 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: Ohio State obviously national champion, just absolutely sod twelve and 355 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: a half sacks this past year. B Sofie, she's a 356 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: big fella, but he ran a four to six two 357 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: at the combine this past season. All right, this draft 358 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: combine like with speed like that at two hundred and 359 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: sixty nine pounds. 360 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: You're ere quick, yeah, and you. 361 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: Got to get to the quarterback and the Patriots need that. 362 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: They have Harold Landry, they have Kelon White, they have 363 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: Afony Jennings, but I think you need a true edge 364 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: rusher and I think Tooy Molao moloau got it is 365 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: one of those types of players. 366 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 5: And Chrissy can't teach speed. 367 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 7: But guys, thank you for tuning into this segment of 368 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 7: the Draft Countdown podcast. With the mock draft segment. We 369 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 7: got Evan lazar next doing a position, so guys, we'll 370 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 7: get to that. 371 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: What's up, everybody, It's Evan Lazarre. Welcome back into the 372 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: Patriots Draft Countdown film room. 373 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: Today. 374 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the cornerbacks, not necessarily a 375 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: major position to need for the Patriots after free agency, 376 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: but you all know why we're talking about the cornerbacks. 377 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: It's this guy right here right, Travis Hunter, the Heisman 378 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: Trophy winner. We're going to get to him in a second, 379 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: but I do want to talk about some of the 380 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: other guys in this class that I really like. Will 381 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: Johnson's the other blue chip prospect, if you will, out 382 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: of Michigan really good National Championship season, some injuries last year. 383 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: Jiehati Bearn two from Texas, one of my favorite players 384 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: in this class. 385 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: But let's talk about. 386 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: That number one guy right there, Travis Hunter. We know 387 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: he plays both ways. You can see him down here 388 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: at the bottom of the screen against the Torah McMillan 389 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: from Arizona, and he's just going to run the route 390 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: for Teed McMillan here in press coverage, and you see 391 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: how smooth he is off the line of scrimmage, his 392 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: change of direction, his ability and those ball skills to 393 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: get his. 394 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: Hand in there. 395 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: That is how he can play manta man at a 396 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: high level. Up here at the top of the screen, though, 397 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: we're going to play a bail technique, So he's just 398 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: going to drop off the line here into a Cover 399 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 3: three or a quarters zone and watch the ball skills, 400 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: watch the explosiveness in the jump to knock that pass 401 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: away on the vertical route. And then the last one 402 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: here is the highlight of his season. I would say, 403 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: probably one of the best interceptions you'll ever see in 404 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: college football. So he's going to play the flat in 405 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 3: cover two. Now, the safety is deep safety deep right here, 406 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: and as we roll this play, he's just going to 407 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: midpoint the deep receiver and the underneath receiver. If we 408 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: can pause it right here, you can see him just 409 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: kind of eyeing the quarterback right now in the backfield 410 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: right where is he going to throw this football and 411 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: watch this break on the ball. I mean, that's just silly. 412 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: That's just ridiculous. Explosiveness. Clicking clothes interception there by Travis Hunter. 413 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 3: That's why everybody is just going crazy about him as 414 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: a cornerback prospect. Ball skills, ballhwking traits, explosiveness, man to 415 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: man coverage ability, great feel for zone coverage. He's just 416 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: got at that position. A couple of other guys here 417 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: to just talk about. Maybe closer to Day two, I 418 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: think mid first round for Jahati Baron, who's just an 419 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: absolute dog. I mean, this guy plays the nickel. Reminds 420 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: me a lot of Brian Branch in Detroit. Just scrappy, 421 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: willing to put his face in there and get his 422 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: nose dirty in the run game. Really good covered corner 423 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: as well if you want to play him in the side. 424 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: And Azure Thomas from Florida State. Right here at the 425 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: bottom of the screen. The Patriots are going to target 426 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: a middle round cornerback. I think Thomas is going to 427 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 3: be on their board. Long, strappy man, coverage corner that 428 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: can do everything the Patriots are going to ask their 429 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: cornerbacks to do. So those are the cornerbacks. Obviously, Travis 430 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: Hunter is the big one there at the top, but 431 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: a couple of other names to watch for in the 432 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: top ten as well, and Will Johnson and Jahati Barry. 433 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: That's your cornerback breakdown on this episode of Patriots Draft Countdown. 434 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: I'm Evan Lazar. 435 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: All right, we're talking safeties and cornerbacks here, not positions 436 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 4: of huge need for the Patriots that could run down. 437 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: They're both those position groups guys, but much everybody's coming back. 438 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: I would say there are maybe some questions in the slot. 439 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 4: We've talked a little bit about that. Marcus Jones has 440 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: been there, had some injury issues. Isaiah Bolden's got some 441 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: size they have, We've talked about him. 442 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: But overall we started you have just what do you. 443 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 5: See the needs at cornerback? Safety? 444 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 4: Right now? 445 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: Safety, I would just say that true center fielder, like 446 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: can they get it, doesn't necessarily need to be a 447 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: guy that's gonna play every snap, but even just that 448 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: Deron Harmon roll of on third downs obvious passing situations 449 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: free up Kyle Duggar and potentially Jabriel Peppers to play 450 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 3: closer to the line of scrimmage or in the box 451 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: at their natural position. So I remember talking to Devin 452 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: mccordy over the years and him just saying that they 453 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: all kind of had their homes when it was him 454 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: and Chung and Deron Harmon up top on third and 455 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: eight with the game on the line, everybody knew where 456 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: they were going to be at and what their roles were. 457 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: So to make this safety group fit together a little 458 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 3: bit better, I think they could maybe target a centerfielder. 459 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 4: What do you think about our cornerbacks, Chris, I know 460 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 4: Carlton Davis big piece there. 461 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: That they Yeah, yeah, they brought it. 462 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: Just brought in Carlton Davis. So obviously have that one 463 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: two punch Gonzo Carlton on each side. 464 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: Obviously you have the big guys, Travis Hunter. Obviously we 465 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: can get in him if you wanted to. 466 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well let's jump right into it, Chris, I mean 467 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: you mentioned Travis Hunter. I mean, look, he's also you 468 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 4: might make an appearance on the wide receiver list that 469 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: would go to well special but yeah, that's and that's 470 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 4: the whole appeal. And I think a lot of the 471 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 4: recent mock drafts, which I know you guys are heavy into, 472 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: it seems like maybe they have a chance at Travis Hunter. 473 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: And really the question comes down to Chris is is 474 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 4: he a cornerback? 475 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 5: Is he a wide receiver? 476 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 4: And if he is a cornerback, where does he play right? 477 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: I think that's something you have to really gauge. 478 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you have fifteen touchdowns as wide receiver this 479 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: past year, like over twelve hundred receiving yards in twelve games. 480 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 2: Like that's crazy. 481 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: So the fact that you have that much versatility you 482 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: could play both sides of the ball. I was talking 483 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: to Tease about this on the on the previous podcast. 484 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, Travis Hunter, he's a guy like I really 485 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: personally would rather focus more on the wide receiver spot 486 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: and keep improving there and try to use him in 487 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: some some sort of nickel package or maybe a dime 488 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: like try to work him into the into more heavier 489 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: defensive back roles. I mean, he has so much potential 490 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: and I think he can play both the ball. You 491 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: just have to use him correctly. 492 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 4: What do you think. 493 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 7: No, I agree with Chris, I'd rather him play wide receiver. 494 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 7: But with Carlton Davis joining the team, I think like 495 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 7: cornerback's a bit more set right now, so you could 496 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 7: use him in some packages there. That being said, a 497 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 7: lot of the experts are saying the opposite. We're using 498 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 7: them on defense and throw them in some packages and offense. 499 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: So yeah, we've we've talked about that. I mean, I 500 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 4: threw on my crazy just months my crazy, you know, 501 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 4: like just play him third down. So I know it's crazy, But. 502 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 5: What have you see from from Hunter? 503 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not crazy to try to find ways. It's 504 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: obviously probably a little bit easier to have him play 505 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: full time corner and then moonlight on offense than it 506 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: is to do the other direction, just from a preparation standpoint, 507 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 3: Like we've seen Marcus Jones and Spurts do that, right, 508 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: So there's guys that have done it at probably a 509 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: little bit of a higher level than doing it the 510 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: other direction. But I think with Hunter and terms of 511 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: his talent, it's really one of the best cornerback prospects 512 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: I've seen in my time covering the draft, just all around, 513 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: can pretty much do everything. I think his ball skills 514 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: or really his instincts and his ball hawking ability or 515 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: probably his best traits. You put him in zone coverages, 516 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: put him in the flat corner spot, and he has 517 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: that ability to click and close and just close on 518 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: the football and intercept passes and really make game changing plays. 519 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: So after they've signed Carlon Davis, it doesn't feel like 520 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: that's the direction they would go in. But I have thought, 521 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 3: you know, in my dreams about Christian Gonzales on one 522 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 3: side on the boundary, I'm going to take this guy 523 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: man to man, and then you have Travis Hunter on 524 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: the other side, ball hawking and just reading the quarterback 525 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 3: and having eyes in the backfield. It's a really intriguing thing. 526 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: But I think what I. 527 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: Come back to with Hunter is you can feed him 528 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: the rock on offense and he can impact the game 529 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: by touching the ball eight, nine, ten times a game 530 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 3: on offense, and he might have one chance on defense 531 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: to really get his hands on the football. And when 532 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: you watch him play his game breaking speed in the 533 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: open field, it's like, how do you not get that 534 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: guy the ball as much as possible? So that's where 535 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 3: I come back to with corner is just is it 536 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: really gonna move the needle as much as him playing 537 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 3: wide receiver. 538 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's move down the list a little bit and 539 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 4: we'll kind of group these guys together. 540 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 5: I don't need to delineate them. 541 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 4: We'll be kind of like the Patriots coaching staff, We're 542 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: gonna just prefer we're all defensive backs here. But John 543 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 4: Ay Barron from Texas, Will Johnson from Michigan probably the 544 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 4: next two guys up on the list, certainly probably first 545 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 4: half of the first round. 546 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: Good players. 547 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 4: I mean, this is just not a huge need for 548 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 4: the Patriots. So at this point we're just we're watching 549 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: for fun, right. 550 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: Chris, Yeah, I would say so. 551 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean those I mean Will Johnson obviously knows how 552 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: to win one in Michigan won national championship. I mean 553 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: his again, his ability to close on the football really impressive. 554 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, kind of that one, two 555 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: three is Barrett Johnson Hunter. 556 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: I would say next year for me, I would probably 557 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: put at least if the Patriots. 558 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: Were gonna look outside the box at the cornerback, maybe 559 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: late round draft. Denzel Burke I really like a lot 560 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. Obviously, you know, third team All 561 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: Big Tens. Past year kind of regressed a little bit. 562 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: It was a little bit better in twenty twenty three, 563 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: second team All American. But you know he has a 564 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: lot of promise. He had forty eight total tackles this season. 565 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: We really close out on the football. Same like Jacob 566 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: Parrish is another guy fifty total tackles this year. 567 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: I mean he's quick. 568 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: He had three pass deflections against the Scinnati, just absolutely 569 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: dominated that game. So I mean they need a guy 570 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: that can get downhill and also gonna make. 571 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: The plays outside. So I think that's really important. 572 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it give you some guys teas. 573 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 7: I really like Trey Amos from Mississippi made the jump 574 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 7: to the SEC. Thirteen pass breakups, fifty tackles. And it 575 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 7: gets interesting because say, if the Patriots take Carter, Like, 576 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 7: you know, our receiver room's pretty jammed right now, so 577 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 7: do you maybe make a high pick at another corner 578 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 7: and try to lock up the secondary. I also like 579 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 7: some later round Oh you mentioned Denzel Burke too, but 580 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 7: some later round guys are really like Jalen Hylott Hyatt. 581 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 7: He's US seed, very versatile, plays nickel safety corner. It 582 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 7: might be a good late round fine for the pageots there. 583 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 3: You guys have been watching some film. I think you 584 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: know you mentioned Will Johnson and just really quickly on him. 585 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: When I made my list of potential guys at four 586 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: overall way back in January and started watching the top 587 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: of the draft, Will Johnson was on the list. I mean, 588 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 3: he is a blue chip prospect in a lot of ways. 589 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: Had a down year last year, coming with an injury 590 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 3: coming off the National Championship game, but with guys like that, 591 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: I tend to think he had nothing left to prove 592 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: at the college football level and just kind of had 593 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: to go back to school because he was an underclassman 594 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 3: and didn't have a choice. So last year was almost 595 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: like a last year for him in a lot of ways, 596 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: and so I understand that it wasn't quite as good. 597 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: But you go back to the year prior and you 598 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: watch him, you know, go toe to toe with Romadoonze 599 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: in the National Championship Game, and you watch him, you know, 600 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: cover some of the best receivers in college football, extremely 601 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: high level. I don't know if I would put this 602 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 3: guy in this air as you know easily as some others, 603 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: but he does get some Patrick Surtan comparisons. You know, 604 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: just extremely natural, fluid, smooth athlete that just looks like 605 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: a corner like you just you look at him, kind 606 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 3: of like Gonzo and you're just like, that's that's an 607 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: elite cornerback, right, That's how I would describe Will Johnson. 608 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: You mentioned Jahati Baron, who I think is a really 609 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 3: interesting player. I love me some Jahati Baron. Brian Branch 610 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: two point zero, scrappy plays Nickel, plays the safety position, 611 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: can play man to man, but has a nose for 612 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: the football, great instincts, not afraid to make tackles in 613 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 3: the run game. He is a very very good player. 614 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 3: He's probably going to go top twenty, top twenty five. 615 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 3: So I don't know if the Patriots are necessarily going 616 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: to be in that category. But those are kind of 617 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 3: the Day one guys. I wouldn't say there's a ton 618 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 3: of Day one corners in this class. It's kind of 619 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: those three dudes. But then you get to the top 620 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: of the second round is when you get to you know, 621 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: the size, speed guys like Maxwell Harriston and Darien Porter, 622 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: maybe Bullio a little later. Yeah, Zion Thomas, Yeah, he 623 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 3: was at he was at the Senior Bowl and very 624 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: you know, strappy, kind of feisty man coverage corner, so 625 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 3: he would fit the bill for the Patriots as well. 626 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 4: High character guy too. I just wanted to throw in 627 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 4: Sebastian Castro from Iowa, who's you know, lower round guy, 628 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 4: you know, kind of safety de beat but slot guy, 629 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 4: but just a guy plays with his hair on fire. 630 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 4: He's just one of those aggressive guys in the slot. 631 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: Really liked the one thing that stood out to me. 632 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 4: He was ten and a half inch hands for like 633 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: a cornerback, which is just to me, he's just you know, 634 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 4: a bunch of it's a bunch of bananas, you know. 635 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 4: But when you talk about you know what guys could 636 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: kind of fit, you know, like that's a role where 637 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 4: you need some steadiness in the slot, you need some aggressiveness. 638 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 4: He seems like his play temperament kind of kind of 639 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 4: fits Mike Rabel's style. 640 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. 641 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 7: Also is Jalen Smith by the way from USCA. I 642 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 7: believe it's at high But also another guy like is 643 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 7: Kobe Bryant. Oh, I got Kobe Bryan on nickel corner 644 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 7: and very feisty as well. Jack Jones, Yeah, exactly scary, 645 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 7: good comp loose cannon maybe, but you need that, you 646 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 7: need that, you know, i'd. 647 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: Say honor to mention too. Is Schevon Revel from East 648 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: Carolina a good one. 649 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: He's went down with the injury in September this past year, 650 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: of course toward the UCL But you know, he's quick, 651 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: He's six three. I mean, he's got the height you 652 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: can cover really anyone on the outside. You know, like 653 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: that's really appealing for a long to me. 654 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 4: I watched him and he got a lot of credit 655 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: for staying at East Carolina, right, you know, sticking with 656 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: that program. Probably could have left and gone somewhere else. 657 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: Injuries set him back, but you know, certainly could have 658 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: been probably much much higher draft pick. He's one of 659 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 4: those guys where maybe an unknown commodity as you as 660 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: you make a selection. 661 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I him and like Ben Morrison from Notre Dame 662 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: or kind of in the same tier. I would say, 663 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: right in like the twenty to forty range, depending on 664 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: the injury. Obviously with Rebel, but I he would have 665 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: been a first round pick if he didn't get hurt. 666 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: Absolutly. Yeah. 667 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: Well let's let's wrap things up with a you know, 668 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: a couple of safeties here. Nick Monta Worry from from 669 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: South Carolina and probably the best safety on the board 670 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 4: all around kind of guy. And Malachi Starks is another 671 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 4: one three year starter at Georgia. We know defense, you 672 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 4: can't get enough of them or guys, but you know, 673 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 4: I think those two guys probably can census top of 674 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 4: the board for safety. 675 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have Malchi starts with the number one safety 676 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: in the class. I just I'm gonna trust the tape 677 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: with him. I know he didn't have a great combine, 678 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: but he is a football player, you know, instinctive, natural 679 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: football player, can play pretty much every safety spot that 680 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: you would want him to play, very very good against 681 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: the run, but also can play deep, can play probably 682 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: wouldn't put him in the post, but like can play 683 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: split suit field coverages and things like that. But I 684 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: just love his ball instincts and just his overall feel 685 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: for the game. I think he's always around the football. 686 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 3: Fun player to watch on tape. And you know, I 687 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: see a little bit of Jamal Adams with Nick. Can 688 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: you pronounce the last name for him and Worry? Yeah, 689 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: I think close enough. Yeah, you know, like like I 690 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: don't know if he plays the way he tested, Like 691 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: he tested like an absolute superhero at the Combine. But 692 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if I see the play speed like 693 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: that on the tape, Like there's a little bit of 694 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: Kyle Duggart to him. There's a little bit of Jamal 695 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: Adams to him, you know, like probably a box safety 696 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 3: that's gonna play like, you know, pseudo linebacker slashing the slot. 697 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: So I like him, but I didn't necessarily I was, like, 698 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: you know, really surprised by how well he tested at 699 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: the Combine. I didn't necessarily think he was that athletic. 700 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, anybody else you guys got that we might have 701 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: missed that you particularly liked. 702 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 5: I like Kevin Winston from Penn State. That's a great one. 703 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 5: I didn't even bring him for this thing, but. 704 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: I thought that was gonna be your guy. 705 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 4: I know, I just I forgot to put him on 706 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 4: my little shortlist. Thanks for presence there kind of ball 707 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: last year leadership. You know, just think he's another guy 708 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 4: that way behind. 709 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 7: I think a big thing is I think the current 710 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 7: safety is of Patriots have me to bounce back a little, 711 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 7: which kind of lowers the safety prospects for me. 712 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 5: But that's the guy that stands out to me. 713 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: For me, I would say the same position Malachai Moore Alabama. 714 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: I mean, really prototypical coverage guy. I mean he's all 715 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: around the ball. You can kind of sit back there, 716 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: cover two, cover three, however you want him. I think 717 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: he's a really solid safety in this class and curious 718 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: what the pad up doing. 719 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, that. 720 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 4: Spot well weird needs, you know. They just like I 721 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: could see them taking some of these guys that could 722 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 4: also see them just bypassing both these positions and kind 723 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 4: of rolling what they have. 724 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 7: I think the pick, if it's between Travis Ard and 725 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 7: Abdol Carter affects this whole group. 726 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 5: Are Yeah, yeah, yeah. 727 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: Let me just name a few more safeties just so 728 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: we get them in there. Because you mentioned mal Chai 729 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: Moore is kind of like the Day three guy of 730 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: this version. Andrew mccuba from Texas is kind of the 731 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: Day two free safety. Uh. He's got great ball skills, 732 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: great instincts, can play up top. He's a true free safety, 733 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: really good playmaker on the football. Then you go to 734 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: Billy Bowman from Oklahoma, who's kind of like the third 735 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: fourth round guy that fits that role. And then you 736 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: get to Malachai Moore probably fifth, sixth round or somewhere 737 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: around there on Day three. So those are if you're 738 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: looking for that Deron Harmon, like mccooba is probably a 739 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: little bit better than that, Like he's probably going to 740 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: be a starting safety in the NFL, getting a lot 741 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: of buzz lately, But if you're looking for that type 742 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: of player, I would say those are sort of your 743 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 3: three tiers of that from days you know, two to four, 744 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: three there at the end of the draft. 745 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 4: All right, well that's going to do it for the 746 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: defensive backs as well. As this episode of Patriots Draft Countdown, 747 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 4: we'll be back next week with another episode, pre dowing 748 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 4: the entire draft.