WEBVTT - Our New American Nightmare

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danielle Moody pre recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you have enjoyed this week on WOKF

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<v Speaker 1>our Cookout Week, where we have been in conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>some of my favorite past guests and friends to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about our complicated relationship with Independence Week in America with

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<v Speaker 1>the Fourth of July holiday, and the complicated relationship that

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<v Speaker 1>I think that all of us have either had from

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<v Speaker 1>birth or developed over time with a country that we

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<v Speaker 1>love that does not always or has ever, really truly

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<v Speaker 1>loved us back. If you've listened to my show over

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<v Speaker 1>the past several years, you know that during the Fourth

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<v Speaker 1>of July, I have adopted a tradition from one of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends who you listened to earlier in the week,

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<v Speaker 1>the Reverend Mark Thompson, who on his show Make It Plain,

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<v Speaker 1>has read in its entirety Frederick Douglas's speech What to

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<v Speaker 1>the Slave is the fourth of July and if you

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<v Speaker 1>remember back during the pandemic, if you were following me

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<v Speaker 1>there when we were in quarantine, I read it alongside

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<v Speaker 1>my sister on Instagram Live and have recorded it on

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<v Speaker 1>wok f before. I will not read it in its

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<v Speaker 1>entirety this year, just because of time constraints, but also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are pieces of it that I will

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<v Speaker 1>be lifting up today because I think it's an important

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<v Speaker 1>way to close out this week on WOK. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we should use the holidays that we are given,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that we are given with little context or

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<v Speaker 1>a little conversation outside of barbecuing and cocktails, to really

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<v Speaker 1>delve into who America is right now. Who do you

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<v Speaker 1>find America to be at this time? What is your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with this country with the narrative that you have

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<v Speaker 1>been prescribed throughout your life, How does it measure up

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<v Speaker 1>to where you find your relationship with this nation at

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<v Speaker 1>this moment. Similarly, last month, when we were talking to

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<v Speaker 1>queer people about pride and how we understand pride during

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<v Speaker 1>a really unfortunate and horrible time for the LGBTQ community,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly for trans people, with an onslaught of over five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pieces of anti LGBTQ legislation, I think that it's

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<v Speaker 1>important not to just consume what it is that people

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<v Speaker 1>are putting out, but really, in your own way, in

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<v Speaker 1>your own circles, be having these conversations and analyzing and

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<v Speaker 1>really understanding that this relationship with this country, much like

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<v Speaker 1>any relationship that you're in, changes over time, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you were not nurturing that relationship, if you are not

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<v Speaker 1>truly connected and present, much like let's say a marriage

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<v Speaker 1>or a friendship, it can end. The relationship with America

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<v Speaker 1>is one that is complicated in the same way that

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship with your family may be complicated. When we

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<v Speaker 1>are young, we rely on our parents and our caregivers

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<v Speaker 1>right to teach us how to walk, how to talk,

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<v Speaker 1>how to cross the street, how to tie shoes, how

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<v Speaker 1>to become you know, adult humans, thinkers, doers, how to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind, how to read. And as we adapt all

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<v Speaker 1>of these new skills, we develop in our thinking, we

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<v Speaker 1>formulate our own questions and our own ideas. And then

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<v Speaker 1>our relationship with our parents, usually around our teen years,

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<v Speaker 1>becomes fraught because as we are trying to calm into

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<v Speaker 1>the full name of who we are, they still see

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<v Speaker 1>us as the children that they have been rearing. And

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<v Speaker 1>then as we continue to age and they age in

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<v Speaker 1>some instances, those roles become reversed, and now you are

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<v Speaker 1>helping your parents walk, helping them in many ways as

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<v Speaker 1>they enter into their sunset years. The relationship that I

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<v Speaker 1>have personally with this country is one you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Toshi had lifted up in the earlier episode

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<v Speaker 1>this week where she talked about the relationship with an

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<v Speaker 1>abusive partner. You know, but the relationship wasn't always abusive,

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<v Speaker 1>right Like, I personally entered into a career in politics

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<v Speaker 1>because I really wanted to be of service, because this

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<v Speaker 1>country had given my family so much in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities when they left Jamaica and came to the United

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<v Speaker 1>States in the nineteen seventies, and because of their decision

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<v Speaker 1>to leave their own country, I was able to forge

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<v Speaker 1>in my cousins, and my sister and I were able

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<v Speaker 1>to forge our own paths, write and build lives and

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<v Speaker 1>careers in this country that we might not have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to do in Jamaica. And particularly as a black

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<v Speaker 1>queer woman, right that was growing up in a time

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<v Speaker 1>when we were actually creating laws to protect the humanity

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<v Speaker 1>and dignity of queer people. If I had lived and

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<v Speaker 1>was born in a country that did not have those protections,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably never would have came out because it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been too dangerous to do so. So I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to live a life and build a career where I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I was giving back. And over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>as I have been an educator, as I have worked

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<v Speaker 1>on Capitol Hill for members of Congress, as I have

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<v Speaker 1>worked for nonprofit organizations trying to better the environment and

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<v Speaker 1>better education for the nation, I felt like I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to become a part of America's story, right. And

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<v Speaker 1>then President Obama was elected and I thought, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>We're just going up from here. We're just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is going to be amazing. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to be a part of this next golden era

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<v Speaker 1>of creation and innovation and just acceptance and equity. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the bottom fell out and Donald Trump descended down

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<v Speaker 1>those escalator stairs and stood before microphones, disparaged Mexicans, disparaged

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<v Speaker 1>people of color. And our new American nightmare would begin then.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what we've been locked into ever since. As

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched and you have watched black people become hashtags

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<v Speaker 1>week after week, month after month, whether it be at

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<v Speaker 1>the hands of police or white vigilantes. We've watched voting

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<v Speaker 1>rights be rolled back and gutted. We've watched Roe v

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<v Speaker 1>wade be overturned after fifty years of a woman having

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<v Speaker 1>the right to choose. We have watched our public education

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<v Speaker 1>system be gutted, the Environmental Protection Agency be gutted. What

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<v Speaker 1>climate scientists said would be thirty forty years down the

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<v Speaker 1>road has arrived. It has arrived in yellow skies from

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<v Speaker 1>wildfires and historic tornado seasons that take out full fucking neighborhoods,

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<v Speaker 1>costing billions of dollars, Hurricanes that linger over states and

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<v Speaker 1>islands longer, devastating them. We've seen earthquakes take out thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of people, Migrants sink to the bottom of the sea,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to seek a better life. So much has happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and my relationship with this country has shifted in so

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<v Speaker 1>many ways. But you all know who listen to me

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis that if I did not love

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<v Speaker 1>America at its core, the idea of America, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of democracy that we've never seen fully actualized for all

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<v Speaker 1>the people in this country, I wouldn't get up every

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<v Speaker 1>day and turn on a microphone. I wouldn't get up

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<v Speaker 1>every day and turn on my laptop and fire off

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<v Speaker 1>opinion pieces. I wouldn't go on television. I wouldn't bother

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<v Speaker 1>because there would be nobody to convince, because I would

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<v Speaker 1>have no faith and no hope that anyone would ever change.

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<v Speaker 1>But the story of America isn't just in its progress.

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<v Speaker 1>It is also in its pain. It is in its resilience,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also in its toxicity and its abuse. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens when the wrong people are given power because we're

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<v Speaker 1>too tired, too busy, or have lost all hope to care.

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<v Speaker 1>When I look back, as I do every year around

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<v Speaker 1>this time, on Frederick Douglas's speech that he delivered on

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<v Speaker 1>July fifth, eighteen fifty two. He addressed the Rochester Lady's

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<v Speaker 1>Anti Slavery Society in Rochester, New York. And every time

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<v Speaker 1>that I read it or have recited it, it really

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<v Speaker 1>takes me abat to one the boldness and the confidence

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<v Speaker 1>of this free black man in the eighteen hundreds to

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<v Speaker 1>be providing a read upon read to the white people

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<v Speaker 1>in attendance. In his eloquence, which you can't say anything

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<v Speaker 1>about this speech other than its eloquence and it's brilliance.

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<v Speaker 1>He really has the audience captivated in the questions that

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<v Speaker 1>he is posing, and he talks about the founding fathers,

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<v Speaker 1>and why those in attendance should be proud right that

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<v Speaker 1>these men were heroes, and that they were great men

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with this idea. He says this about

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<v Speaker 1>the founding fellow citizens. I am not wanting in respect

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<v Speaker 1>for the fathers of this republic. The signers of the

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<v Speaker 1>Declaration of Independence were brave men. They were great men,

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<v Speaker 1>too great enough to give fame to a great age.

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<v Speaker 1>It does not often happen to a nation to raise

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<v Speaker 1>at one time such a number of truly great men.

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<v Speaker 1>The point from which I am compelled to view them

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<v Speaker 1>is not certainly the most favorable, And yet I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>contemplate their great deeds with less than admiration. They were statesmen, patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>and heroes. And for the good they did and the

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<v Speaker 1>principles they contended for, I will unite with you to

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<v Speaker 1>honor their memory. They loved their country better than their

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<v Speaker 1>own private interests. And though this is not the highest

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<v Speaker 1>form of human excellence, all will concede that it is

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<v Speaker 1>a rare virtue, and that when it is exhibited, it

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<v Speaker 1>ought to command respect. He who will intelligently laid down

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<v Speaker 1>his life for his country is a man whom it

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<v Speaker 1>is not in human nature to despise your fathers, stake

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<v Speaker 1>their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor on the

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<v Speaker 1>cause of their country. In their admiration of liberty, they

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<v Speaker 1>lost sight of all other interests. That to me is

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest praise and acknowledgment. These were not small minded men.

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<v Speaker 1>These were people who, out of sheer imagination, came up

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<v Speaker 1>right with this idea of forging a new nation that

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<v Speaker 1>would be governed for and by the people, that the

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<v Speaker 1>people would not be subjects of a king, that they

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<v Speaker 1>would have a voice. But they did so while in

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<v Speaker 1>the shadows of the formation of this grand idea and

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<v Speaker 1>experiment we call America, having this country be built by

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<v Speaker 1>those who would never know freedom, who were shackled, who

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<v Speaker 1>were raped, who were beaten, who were tortured, who were

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<v Speaker 1>referred to as chattel and treated as animals, whose families

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<v Speaker 1>were destroyed, whose life lives were never actualized except for

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<v Speaker 1>what they could produce. It's not lost on those that

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<v Speaker 1>are listening to Frederick Douglas now in these times, that

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<v Speaker 1>we have come so far and yet not far enough.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes on to say this, fellow citizens, pardon me,

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<v Speaker 1>allow me to ask why I am called upon to

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<v Speaker 1>speak here today? What have I or those I represent

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<v Speaker 1>to do with your national independence? Are the great principles

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<v Speaker 1>of political freedom and of natural justice embodied in that

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<v Speaker 1>declaration of independence extended to us? And am I therefore

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<v Speaker 1>called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar,

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<v Speaker 1>and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for

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<v Speaker 1>the blessings resulting for your independence to us? Would to God,

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<v Speaker 1>both for your sakes and hours, that an affirmative answer

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<v Speaker 1>could be truthfully returned to these questions. Then would my

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<v Speaker 1>task be light and my burden be easy and delightful.

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<v Speaker 1>For who is there so cold that a nation's sympathy

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<v Speaker 1>could not warm him, Who sob abdorran and dead to

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<v Speaker 1>the claims of gratitude, that would not thankfully acknowledge such

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<v Speaker 1>priceless benefits. Who is so stollied and selfish that would

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<v Speaker 1>not give his voice to swell the hallelujahs of a

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<v Speaker 1>nation's jubilee when the chains of servitude had been torn

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<v Speaker 1>from his limbs. I am not that in a case

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<v Speaker 1>like that, the dumb might eloquently speak and the lame

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<v Speaker 1>man leap as in heart. But such is not the

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<v Speaker 1>state of the case. I say it with a sad

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<v Speaker 1>sense of the disparity between us. I am not included

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<v Speaker 1>within the pale of the glorious anniversary. Your high independence

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<v Speaker 1>only reveals the immeasurable distance between us. The blessings in

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<v Speaker 1>which you this day rejoice are not enjoyed in common.

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<v Speaker 1>The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity, and independence bequeathed

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<v Speaker 1>by your fathers is shared by you, not by me.

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<v Speaker 1>The sunlight that brought light and healing to you has

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<v Speaker 1>brought stripes and death to me. This fourth of July

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<v Speaker 1>is yours, not mine. You may rejol. I must mourn

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<v Speaker 1>to drag a man in fetters into the grand illuminated

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<v Speaker 1>temple of liberty and call upon him to join you

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<v Speaker 1>in joyous anthems were inhumane mockery and sacrilegious irony. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean citizens to mock me by asking me to

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<v Speaker 1>speak today? If so, there is a parallel to your conduct.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me warn you that it is dangerous to

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<v Speaker 1>copy the example of a nation whose crimes, towering up

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<v Speaker 1>to the heaven, were thrown down by the breath of

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<v Speaker 1>the Almighty, burying that nation and irrevocable ruin. I can

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<v Speaker 1>today take up the plaintive lament of appealed and woe

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<v Speaker 1>smitten people, fellow citizens, above your national tumultuous joy. I

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<v Speaker 1>hear the mournful wail of milk, whose chains, heavy and

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<v Speaker 1>grievous yesterday, are today rendered more intolerable by the jubilee

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<v Speaker 1>shouts that reach them. If I do forget, if I

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<v Speaker 1>do not faithfully remember those bleeding children of sorrow this day,

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<v Speaker 1>may my right hand forget her cunning, and may my

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<v Speaker 1>tongue cleave to the rooth of my mouth. To forget them,

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<v Speaker 1>to pass lightly over their wrongs and to chime in

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<v Speaker 1>with the popular theme would be treason most scandalous and shocking,

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<v Speaker 1>and would make me a reproach before God and the world.

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<v Speaker 1>My subject, then, fellow citizens, is American slavery. I shall

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<v Speaker 1>see this day and its popular characteristics from the slave's

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<v Speaker 1>point of view, standing there, identified with their American bondmen

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<v Speaker 1>making his wrongs. Mind, I do not hesitate to declare

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<v Speaker 1>with all my soul that the character and conduct of

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<v Speaker 1>this nation never looked blacker to me than on this

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<v Speaker 1>fourth of July. Folks, For me and for so many

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<v Speaker 1>who are black, who are indigenous, who are people of

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<v Speaker 1>color in this country. Frederick Douglas's words from eighteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two still ring so damn true in the twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 1>While we may not be in physical bondage, the policies

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<v Speaker 1>that this country continues to turn out ensure that we

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<v Speaker 1>remain in slow to a system that has never seen

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge or respected our full humanity and dignity. It is

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<v Speaker 1>absurd to hold deep comparisons between the Black community, whose

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<v Speaker 1>ancestors were stripped of their culture, their religion, their voice,

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<v Speaker 1>their freedom, and their language, to be compared to any

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<v Speaker 1>other racialized group in this country, and whatever success they

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<v Speaker 1>may have had, America will never truly be a democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>America will never truly live up to its creed until

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<v Speaker 1>not only it acknowledges its original sin, but it chooses

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<v Speaker 1>to do right by it. The conversation that I had

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<v Speaker 1>with Torrey was one that talked a bit about reparations,

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<v Speaker 1>and I struggle with the conversations around reparations, around asking

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<v Speaker 1>the oppressors of this country to provide charity to those

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<v Speaker 1>that they have extracted everything, including life from reparations is

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<v Speaker 1>not asking for philanthropy. It is asking for a return

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<v Speaker 1>with interest on what has been stolen, and until this

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<v Speaker 1>country does that, their Independence Day will always always ring hollow.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it for me today, dear friends, on this

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<v Speaker 1>wokf on this holiday week, this woke app hook out week,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you all enjoyed the conversations that I

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by my friends, doctor Christina Greer, the

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Mark Thompson, Torrey Toshi Reagan. I thank them so

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<v Speaker 1>much for their time, for their brilliance, for their boys,

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<v Speaker 1>for their activism, for their work. And we are not

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<v Speaker 1>free until we are all free as always, dear friends,

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<v Speaker 1>Power to the people and to all the people. Power,

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<v Speaker 1>get woke and stay woke as fuck.