WEBVTT - Featuring Emily Bear and Abigail Barlow

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, It's Sammy Jay and welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Let's Be Real Podcast. You guys, this episode, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited for you to hear it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this may be one of my favorite episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>all time. This week we have two guests, Abigail Barlow

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<v Speaker 1>and Emily Bear. They are partners in crime. They are

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<v Speaker 1>Ying and Yang. They are brilliant. Now you've probably have

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<v Speaker 1>heard of what they're working on Britain the Musical. They

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<v Speaker 1>are creating a musical in real time on TikTok and

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<v Speaker 1>I do live and you can see the process before

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<v Speaker 1>your very eyes. And I'm telling you what these girls

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<v Speaker 1>are doing and the songs they're creating are just different.

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<v Speaker 1>They're innovating the space. We talk about what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>to be gen z since they are twenty two and nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and how to be taken seriously in the business. We

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<v Speaker 1>also talk about friendships, girls, supporting girls, and so much more.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, I look forward to your feedback and enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you guys are all my pod has

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<v Speaker 1>because I have been on TikTok not as much more viewer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get into the creating. But I've been

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<v Speaker 1>following you, Abigail for ever since you created uh Sober.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I saw, I was I just love

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<v Speaker 1>the creativity because I feel like there's it's awesome when

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<v Speaker 1>you find that on this kind of platform. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you guys were creating bridgrotin the musical, it

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<v Speaker 1>made me watch the show first. I love that. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, can you talk about how attractive Simon is? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>That's literally happy for conversation. We both have boyfriends, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, oh my god, like it pains my soul

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<v Speaker 1>how attractive that man is. It's amazing. I can't He's

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<v Speaker 1>just perfect. His face, the structure, it's justine muscles with

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<v Speaker 1>the British. I have a theory that if you are

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<v Speaker 1>British you automatically get ten more points. It's just and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're British and like studyingly handsome, it's over and

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<v Speaker 1>you have abs like we're done, it's good. It's doing here, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're handing marriage. His arms are like perfectly chiseled.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that was my first thing. I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>After I saw, I was like, okay, I'll watched the show,

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<v Speaker 1>like I know me oh my god, me. So how

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<v Speaker 1>far into watching the show having Guild, We're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this should be a musical. I actually finished binging it,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was like one piece of dialogue that stuck

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<v Speaker 1>out to me, like beyond the rest. It was what

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Grandville says about you have no idea what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to be in a room with someone you can't

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<v Speaker 1>live without and yet still feel like their oceans away

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<v Speaker 1>from you. And I was like, dude, that is a song.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's basically all of the dialogue is so poetic.

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<v Speaker 1>The music almost writes itself. It's kind of crazy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like so I yeah, So I just like I went

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<v Speaker 1>to my piano and kind of started messing round because

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<v Speaker 1>I was just tired of like the structure of pop

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<v Speaker 1>music I was writing, and I wanted to like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just expand my horizons and write something that I

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<v Speaker 1>never would have written otherwise. And I think Britain gave

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<v Speaker 1>me that vehicle to do that. And so after I

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<v Speaker 1>finished like binging it, I was like, what if this

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<v Speaker 1>move a musical? You know, like it probably could be,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I wrote that song. So, what's your favorite musical,

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<v Speaker 1>like of all time? Your top three Pip in the

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<v Speaker 1>revival Purple. Um. Um, is it so cliche to say

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<v Speaker 1>is so good? I mean like there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>reason it's so popular, you know whatever. I think, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. My favorites are. I've did a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>musical theater as a kid, Like, did so many shows

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<v Speaker 1>and next to normal I got to see on Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>it was incredible at won the Pulitzer Prize and like

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve or something like that. Um, such good music.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh shoot, I love Into the Woods. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff, especially for writing this show, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very much operatic and feel it's I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about that, like I got into the wood vibes,

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<v Speaker 1>like listening to the music. I think the duel song

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely some time vibes on it. We tried to

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<v Speaker 1>really lean into like the operatic style because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it really like it benefited the show to have sort

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<v Speaker 1>of that string feel underneath all of the dialogue and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, so we wanted to keep that for

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<v Speaker 1>what we're creating. But yeah, I think that Into the

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<v Speaker 1>Woods I love sometime, I love I love Sweeney Todd

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people have been saying Sweeney time

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<v Speaker 1>because it kind of been influenced for me. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just love musical theater so much, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that classic sound with like a pop influence on it

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<v Speaker 1>is something that not many people have kind of explored yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And and we have such different backgrounds that complement each other,

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<v Speaker 1>so it kind of just fell into place when we

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<v Speaker 1>started writing. Our our skill sets are so complimentary and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's funny. So we met actually working on

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<v Speaker 1>a different musical project that's more of a passion project,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were keeping a lot less in the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, that one, we had a vision of it

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<v Speaker 1>being like very pop because there was like a golden

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<v Speaker 1>era where musical theater songs crossed over to the pop

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<v Speaker 1>charts wars and wanted to do that again exactly. We

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do that again, and so um we figured

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<v Speaker 1>out after we're writing together for the first time that

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<v Speaker 1>like it just worked, Like we come from like a

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<v Speaker 1>pop background, and she has such incredible instincts, it's like scary.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I come from like a very different background,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was possibly trained, I like toured with like

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<v Speaker 1>a jazz trio, So very smart and incredibly gigantic brain inside.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also loved writing songs and I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>that for a while and so like us together, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just works. It's really great it seeing and Yang. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>literally it is. It's so you and Yang. So what

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<v Speaker 1>is the process of creating a musical? Because just like

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of any project, the hardest part is starting,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I always tell and a musical is very daunting.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you go about structuring this show when

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, eight episodes, eight hours total content, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're condensing it into songs? How do you go about

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<v Speaker 1>doing that? Yeah, We've been saying, like we need to

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<v Speaker 1>take these eight hours of storytelling and you can put

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<v Speaker 1>it into Yeah. And it's crazy because this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just started as a passion project. Like when I did

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<v Speaker 1>the Hypothetical What It Britain, wasn't musical, Like I really

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't expecting it to blow up the way it did

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<v Speaker 1>and expect people to want more. You didn't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I've post my original pop music like you said all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so like this was no different. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just inspired on a different level by something happening in

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture and like the world just kind of nodded

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<v Speaker 1>in agreement, So I mean, I can tell you she

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<v Speaker 1>texted me that night and it was like, what if

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<v Speaker 1>British and wasn't musical? And my initial thought was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that's a good idea. Let's do this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world is like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good idea. So we're having fun right now

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<v Speaker 1>writing it. And I think that's why it's not so daunting,

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<v Speaker 1>is because we're kind of taking it, like segments of

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<v Speaker 1>the storyline as we feel inspired to write them. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get more into the details, like

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<v Speaker 1>we think that you know, what captured us in the

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<v Speaker 1>show is their love story and how beautiful it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know how they showed the struggling parts too,

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<v Speaker 1>But we wanted the show to sort of focus on

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<v Speaker 1>Simon and Daphne's relationship, right all the chaos that erupt

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<v Speaker 1>from that, So we're trying to like structure it to

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<v Speaker 1>be that, you know. I think that's also so interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because there are many different plots within the shows, and

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<v Speaker 1>I find it it's it's good that you're like choosing

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<v Speaker 1>one narrative to go down and kind of touching us

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<v Speaker 1>like someone otherwise we'd have like a cast album with

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<v Speaker 1>seven exactly. But I feel like that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>really fascinating things. Like the music. It's not just like Broadway.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like music that's on the radio, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think what you guys are doing, it's coming across really well.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your songwriting process? Because you guys are doing

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<v Speaker 1>it differently, like it hasn't been done before. I find

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<v Speaker 1>it so refreshing. You guys are live streaming while you're

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<v Speaker 1>creating the songs. Is that ever intimidating to know like

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<v Speaker 1>people are watching you or do you just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>zone them out? I mean a little bit, But also

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, everyone's been so incredible and supportive

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<v Speaker 1>and it helps it there, you know. It's what you

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<v Speaker 1>were saying before, is like I think TikTok is a

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<v Speaker 1>platform that loves authenticity and like we're not hiding the

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<v Speaker 1>parts that we're struggling, Like people see when we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to say next. People are seeing when we

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<v Speaker 1>are hitting writer's block, we can't find a rhyme from

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<v Speaker 1>like Penny, and like, why can't we find a rhyme

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<v Speaker 1>for Penny? But then they also see it when it

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<v Speaker 1>just comes out like that, and when we hit a

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<v Speaker 1>stride and like how excited we get when we find

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<v Speaker 1>something that we love, and it's like it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot less daunting, It can't. I mean, it just

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<v Speaker 1>depends really on whether we're struggling or whether it's coming

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<v Speaker 1>out like that, because you can you can tune them

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<v Speaker 1>out sometimes and then sometimes they're actually really helpful and

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<v Speaker 1>give us suggestions on what to say. So that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>That's advice in real time. Yeah, exactly, and exactly with

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are going to be ultimately consuming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's really brilliant because you're having the audience

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<v Speaker 1>go through the process with you, so then when they

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<v Speaker 1>see the show, it's like, hey, they're parting. Yeah, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was saying, you know, musicals are usually very

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<v Speaker 1>hidden in development, like kind of in secrecy for years,

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<v Speaker 1>and these things take years to develop, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone's been ever able to see the process

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<v Speaker 1>of that. And we didn't really have like an epiphanymore

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh my god, this is a brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>master plan and just I don't know as actually it

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<v Speaker 1>just happened and then you're here. That's probably how it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It just were like, yeah, if we knew, what would

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<v Speaker 1>have happened, Like, I don't think it would have happened

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<v Speaker 1>the same way. No, I I think it really just

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<v Speaker 1>hit the zeitgeist in the coolest way and and had

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<v Speaker 1>so many people feel like they were along for the

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<v Speaker 1>ride for this because who knows where it could go.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some really cool opportunities for us now that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've kind of developed a following around it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really exciting to have people like on our

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<v Speaker 1>team and so supportive of the idea. Lin Man Well,

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<v Speaker 1>who's like my dream? Oh my god. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>ramos on the podcast because even too uh he started

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, just tell me

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<v Speaker 1>some wind stories like I need he do wedded one

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<v Speaker 1>of the songs and died and sign and say that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get into the whole podcast? So I

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<v Speaker 1>was in my sophomore year of high school and my

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety got really bad because mean girls, and I started

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<v Speaker 1>listening to podcasts as like a way to distract, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you have anxiety, probably no distraction is your best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was listening to podcast and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>relate to anything that was coming out, and as distraction

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<v Speaker 1>is like, I'm going to create my dream podcast. So

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<v Speaker 1>I did like research on the marketplace and I eventually

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<v Speaker 1>pitched it just for fun, and they gave me a

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<v Speaker 1>pilot and I got Julia Michaels on it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we went to series and now around season two that

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<v Speaker 1>girl boss yees. So I had originally met Julia when

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<v Speaker 1>I interviewed her on the set of American Idol when

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<v Speaker 1>I was on assignment for Radio Disney. That's so exciting. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Julia would be amazing in this musical, don't you think. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I really cool so our girl Sienna. I know she's

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<v Speaker 1>an opera singer and she'll definitely have some influence. But

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, her and Anthony's relationship always feels like sexy,

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<v Speaker 1>sultry pop to us. It gives me pop vibes, and

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<v Speaker 1>so everything we write for them is very so Julia,

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Relia. It's like, you know, the musical theater voice

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely a thing, and I think we should get

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<v Speaker 1>a pop girl to sing. I completely agree. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you know who would be really good? Jazzy Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>who from Hamilton's Anthony's wife, and she played Peggy. She

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<v Speaker 1>played Reynolds that she'd be good for, you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>musical theater, Yes, queen. My family is a music I

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<v Speaker 1>live in New York, so I've kind of grown up

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Got it right, Broadways, Yeah, Broadways close. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it that opens back soon from the pandemic. Trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it's it's like the worst thing to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're so closed off, but like that's why this

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<v Speaker 1>is such a cool thing, because we feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that could possibly at the theaters maybe, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that, like you know, COVID is a

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<v Speaker 1>dark time for a lot of musicians and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people who work in the arts. And the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that so many people who are in the industry are

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<v Speaker 1>like grabbing onto this is one completely surreal Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very weird. Like we feel like in awe and

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<v Speaker 1>grateful that something that we wrote could ever reached so

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<v Speaker 1>many people. I know, Yeah, we've idolized for a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what is bizarre and so magical of a

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<v Speaker 1>of a experience and journey. It's really cool. So who's

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<v Speaker 1>the most unexpected person that's reached out to you or

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<v Speaker 1>that you know about Bridget that knows about Bridget in

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<v Speaker 1>the musical that you were like, holy shit. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's some people behind the scenes that were sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like freaking out internally over um that we I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say too much, but like really exciting things. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Petina Miller, which was she was in She Needs to

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<v Speaker 1>Be Lady Danny. Yeah, she she just DMed me and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, finished this musical and I was like, okay, clean,

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<v Speaker 1>you got it. Cast members like Luke, the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>plays Colin, is like on Our Lives all the time

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<v Speaker 1>that comes in just just like on an outed and

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<v Speaker 1>Philippa of all like reached out to Abigail and like

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the guy who plays what's his name Anthony Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but the guy who plays Anthony and Jonathan Um he

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<v Speaker 1>was on Entertainment Night like raving about the musical and

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, is this it doesn't feel question? Has Simon

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<v Speaker 1>Flint in the d M. He hasn't slit in the

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<v Speaker 1>d MS, but he did post a video today that

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<v Speaker 1>like Netflix had like a little promotional thing and talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the musical, So he's aware of it. At least

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're on his radarland. That's all. That is all.

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<v Speaker 1>You will be the first to know. Great, I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>the damn ye absolutely, So what is your favorite that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have written so far? You know that's hard

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<v Speaker 1>because they're all like your babies, But I know if

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<v Speaker 1>you had to pay. So I truly think that our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite song is whatever we just wrote. And so our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite right now is the opening number because we just

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<v Speaker 1>finished it. More obsessed with this ending that we just wrote. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you want to get wet? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to play? Yeah? I keep in mind that when

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<v Speaker 1>I bounced it, I accidentally caught off the ending. And

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<v Speaker 1>also it's very rough. It's gonna sound better than no,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm excited. Work in progress. Okay, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>when the doors open and she walks in and she's

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<v Speaker 1>being presented to the queen. This is her inner monopope.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess she's walking down and then the ensemble starts

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<v Speaker 1>chiming in, the brothers chime in, and the very end

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear it. Okay, I'm ready, don't trip, don't falter,

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<v Speaker 1>just make it to the out, don't break, don't crumble,

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<v Speaker 1>make certain you're perfectly humble. Show her majesty the queen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your more than work. Don't you let it show

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<v Speaker 1>that you're more than most. Finally, Unlaby, the power piece

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<v Speaker 1>must be common co connected at the sun. This must

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<v Speaker 1>be perfectly perfectly desire, So don't find just make it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the out must be perfectly perfect, perfect pots flawless,

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<v Speaker 1>my dear, Okay, just help them. Okay, so many thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>The composition is insane. It feels like I'm in a

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<v Speaker 1>princess movie in the best way possible. We know that

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<v Speaker 1>she's very you know, big on the tradition, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>delicate but strong and inspired and excited, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that was one of the times where it just

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<v Speaker 1>like flu that's must be the best feeling. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>we were we were so we are truly rarely ever

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<v Speaker 1>happy with something that we're right right, Okay, Abigail. The harmony,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she helped me with them. I couldn't come

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<v Speaker 1>up with all of them all. I trying to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the writing process, but it is truly a collaboration. Were

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<v Speaker 1>she leans obviously a little more lyric melody. Eileen Moore, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty we both have We're both pretty headstrong in

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<v Speaker 1>our ideas too, and then that's good because we both

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<v Speaker 1>every yeah, we both do everything, and we're both confident

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<v Speaker 1>in our choices and our ideas, so we just bounce

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<v Speaker 1>off each other really when we right, it's really I

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<v Speaker 1>love working with her, and collaboration can be really difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to especially if you guys butt heads, because it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a passionate thing when you guys. Right, Yeah, we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, like we both know that collaborations are hard,

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<v Speaker 1>partnerships are hard, um, But we've talked you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>need always to have open, honest communication and we're gonna argue,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to butt heads, but it's how we deal

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<v Speaker 1>with those that's going to be really really important. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think mostly like we never really bud heads

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<v Speaker 1>when we're writing together. Like more like it's more all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that like surround this, you know, it's finishing touches,

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<v Speaker 1>ship and all the ins and outs. I have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the music. It's more like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the external you know. Yeah, like just like

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<v Speaker 1>but but we rarely ever butt heads anyway. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>friends first, you know, which is like the most exciting

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<v Speaker 1>thing that like you get to do this with your friend,

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<v Speaker 1>and like so that you will each other. We love

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<v Speaker 1>each other, you know, I mean, like I said, we

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<v Speaker 1>were friends first, so honestly, that introduction, it's so beautiful. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to take a quick break, but when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, let's dive deeper into bridgertain the musical and

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<v Speaker 1>how in the world you guys have written about half

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<v Speaker 1>the songs for show in a little over two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and what it's like to live stream the whole process

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the world. We'll be right back and

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. How long does it take you to write

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<v Speaker 1>a song? Like, what's the fastest it's been for to

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<v Speaker 1>write one of these songs? Thirty minutes? Thirty minutes we

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that Balancing the Scale song, the mother song start

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<v Speaker 1>an hour with the recording. That's impressive. It was like,

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<v Speaker 1>truly insert we do. We were both pretty prolific and

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<v Speaker 1>when we write, like we just write a lot constantly,

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<v Speaker 1>so we know how to finish the song pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>And because we're both fast, like separate or apart, then

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<v Speaker 1>we come together and we're like boom, boom boom. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>happened so fast. But then again, we're writing a different

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<v Speaker 1>song that we've come back to three times, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we finally just cracked the code, but it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a little more pulling and struggling. Yeah, And I also

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<v Speaker 1>think it's one of those things where innovating is so important,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in this time where you know, Broadway is closed

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<v Speaker 1>and we're we have to figure out different ways to

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<v Speaker 1>make things work. It's the time for changing things up

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<v Speaker 1>and especially writing music. A few years ago, not many

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<v Speaker 1>people did it on their computer. They had to go

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<v Speaker 1>into a studio. So now that you guys are writing

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<v Speaker 1>a full blow musical at home is pretty awesome and insane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's really fun. It's like it's it's like our

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<v Speaker 1>safe space and we just it's where we have the

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<v Speaker 1>most fun as together writing. Yeah, is there. I know, Emily,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a very classical background. How how has that

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<v Speaker 1>come into you know, I know you really see your

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<v Speaker 1>own music. How has that come into writing a musical

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, still making it modern but also giving

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<v Speaker 1>that classical vibe to it. I'm kind of all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place when it comes to genre, Like she's cross genres.

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<v Speaker 1>I do classical, I do film scoring, I do jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that your your genre list. I love that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what I love most about that is

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<v Speaker 1>that I can pick and you know, take from all

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<v Speaker 1>my different influences and bring it in more it's appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>But also at the end of the day, I'm nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old. I'm like very well aware of the pop

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<v Speaker 1>culture and I love Mac Miller and I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>everything now, so like I have that view while still

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<v Speaker 1>having like this classical jazz like training blah blah blah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's great. I don't know, I'm eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really interesting that I've at least experience I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you guys have where it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken seriously at first because it's truly like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I my dream is to become a film composer. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I write music for TV media games. UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been really like fortunate to have, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing that for the past couple of years. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is so hard because like my age is like

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<v Speaker 1>my big asset but also like one of my biggest downfalls,

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<v Speaker 1>because especially in an industry where there's so much responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>attached to the writing of the music, like you get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people who look at you only as a risk,

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<v Speaker 1>not as you know, a risk. But I'm really important

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<v Speaker 1>to really yeah, and no one's really willing to take

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<v Speaker 1>risks in the music industry right now because everything's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so fragile right now, like the touring community, like nothing's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>so like any risk is just a loss of money,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's what labels look at it as. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is really hard to be taken seriously, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it will always be as a at a certain degree

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<v Speaker 1>because we are very young women trying to make it

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<v Speaker 1>in this business that's very very heavily men. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think at the same time, we're kind of paving a

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<v Speaker 1>road for ourselves right now, and that feels really good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I think so. We've gotten obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of messages over the past few days, but

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<v Speaker 1>the most special ones are from the people who are like,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my passion for theater and music a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago, but I just bought a keyboard because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so inspired, And the ones that are like, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen two women do this before, How freaking cool is that? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>when I like see those, you know, it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>all worth it. Sleepless nights all the christ I should

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<v Speaker 1>so worth it, absolutely, and also like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>our generation is so awesome and so cool and I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've experienced, you know, people it's hard to be taken

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<v Speaker 1>as seriously because of my age. Um, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>we bring a fresh perspective to things that where we're optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>I've noticed in meetings I'll shoot for the stars. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>we should do this. Sister like, well, well, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like why not. It's you know that that

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:28.199
<v Speaker 1>mindset is all you need. Yeah, exactly. Really, when we're

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, we have to meet, Yes, yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, no, I know, And it's hard. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to find women in this industry where we can like

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<v Speaker 1>support each other because there's weirdly a lot of competition.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it feels very competitive all the time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like pushes that it's dumb, Like the media pushes it constantly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, why aren't we just raising each other

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<v Speaker 1>up as much as possible, because that is the most

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<v Speaker 1>important thing. Like I I want to see more women

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<v Speaker 1>doing what we're doing, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want someone to look at us and see like

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<v Speaker 1>two women who are you know, are very different but

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<v Speaker 1>are each paving like your way, and you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are changing in the best way because frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>we're at a time and it stands still in the

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic where everyone's thinking, Okay, we need to change things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's an opportunity to where we can now change

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<v Speaker 1>things because people typically exactly, I think I think the

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<v Speaker 1>change is long overdue, especially in sort of like the

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<v Speaker 1>gate keeper way of making musicals and making content like

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<v Speaker 1>we're making like like we said, it's usually very uh

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<v Speaker 1>secretive and in development for years and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>producers involved, and then the producers change all the things

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<v Speaker 1>and then but we're kind of going directly to the

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<v Speaker 1>audience and really the only metric is do they like it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so they now have like an invested interest

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<v Speaker 1>in love for the music that you've never been able

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<v Speaker 1>to that before, and like people who are going to

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<v Speaker 1>come see the show if it ever makes it a Broadway,

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>let's manifest. Let's manifest. They'll know all the words, they'll

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>sing along. Yeah, look, you know I mean that. But like, yeah,

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I think years ago, Netflix probably would have sent us

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<v Speaker 1>to cease and desist you know, but because there's so

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 1>many people that you know, there's so many people that

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>love the music, and it's probably like in their best

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>interest now that like support at least support the idea

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, be accepting of what's happening. It's really

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>really fascinating. I mean, you never know what's going to happen,

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>but we know that we both have so many more

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>musicals and songs in us, and we just like can't

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>wait to start writing for everything. I know. Yeah, And

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I also think one of the things is like when

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you're pitching people, you guys now have the power in

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 1>the sense of we have the people who want to

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 1>see we have the audience who are still engaged in

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>the process. It's not like a a is they have

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to take because you have everything like already, which is

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>so it goes to show like just by being authentic

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and being creative, you can honestly do what you want,

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 1>which I don't think a lot of people will realize.

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how it happened, but we seem

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to sometimes struck a chord and I'm just like, we're

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>just really excited about what could be, you know, the

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>possibility even beyond um Britain. We've always talked about since

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>we first started writing, how we feel like this is

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of a lifelong partnership and we see each other

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>working on multiple things together and and I think it

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>still rings true. This is just kind of like the

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>first thing that that popped off, and so we're just

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>excited to make more now. So excited, I know, is

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>there Okay, I will say oceans away and burn through you.

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>It is like those just hit a little different just

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 1>in the sense of creating the composition for that. How

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>do you choose what goes well because there's so many

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 1>different instruments and sounds and vocals. How do you have

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the sense? Is it just like I mean I got

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>feeling where part some things should go or do? How

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>do you go about creating something? I did it alive

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>yesterday where I was just like purely just orchestrating, and

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean some of it is like instinct um and

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>other is other parts of it. It's just very much um,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>try and fail sort of thing. But I mean I

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>have never orchestrated something so quickly. Is I did those

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>two songs. I was like, when we finished those songs together,

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>it just fell out. When I like finished the arrangement

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>in orchestration, it just fell out, like it's been like

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>those songs were really easy to do. I think it's

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>because they're inspired by the yeah, by the show, and

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>like the feeling that was emulated through the actor's performances.

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it just sort of happened. And I always

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>say I heard on I was watching the Bags documentary

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and I heard Chris Martin say this incredible thing that

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>just completely clicked with me, and he's like, songwriters don't

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>really write songs, they received songs. And it's so true.

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's just floating around in the ether and

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you pick the things out of out of thin air,

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's like it just happens. Sometimes. That's why I

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit of imposter syndrome, like always Yeah,

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's kind of how it happens. I

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's it's sort of just I I opened

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>my mind to allow myself to just write what I'm

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>what I'm hearing, what I'm feeling. Yeah, And I like

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I someone asked me on Instagram, like a question answer

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>thing that you do in your story is like what

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>made you fall in love with music? And I thought

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>about it and then I was like, you know that,

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like for me, it's when you're in a song,

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>or for me an orchestra or the music swells and

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>your heart just like lurches like that feeling. I can't

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>like magical, it's magical, and I get those feelings from

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>those two songs. So are we starting with an album

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and then seeing what happens with it? I mean, we

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>have big dream and uh, we're kind of why not.

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>We're being approached from a lot of different directions and

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>we are still figuring them out and trying to make

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>smart decisions and figure out what direction we want to

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>go in and all we want to do with it,

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>And like, I can't believe we have all of these

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>are at our disposal. It's really crazy. It's like it's great,

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>but it must be overwhelming too, because it's a little bit.

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I think we're mostly just really really yeah. I think

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the overwhelming stuff comes when we're overthinking things and when

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>we just get back to the music and creating, it

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>just feels like made like natural for both of us.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so after the first two songs were written

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and we got together and we're like, oh my god,

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna like try to write a musicals, like an

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>entire musical, and like a few weeks and we're like

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>about how we're going to do this, Like Hamilton took

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>six years to develop, what are you doing? And then

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>we just started writing and we got a plan and

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>we're like and then we got half a musical one week.

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>It's been to three weeks, two weeks, two weeks since

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that first TikTok wild. How much you've, like, what over

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>half of the musical done? Yeah, like like eleven songs.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>We're kind of thinking twenty for the concept album, like

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty um, and we're kind of half through, halfway through

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>telling all the big plot points of the story, you know,

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like for a concept album, because it is just a

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>concept album, I think it'll be a little different than

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>ever it was like a cast recording. It would be

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>very different once you you know, take that concept album

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and then turn it into a Broadway show and it's

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be obviously many more songs, many more interludes,

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>many more reprises, um, because you know, you you have

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to fill in all the dots. Was more like a

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>detailed outline, Yeah, exactly. That's a really great way to

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>describe that. Oh, for sure, Okay, we have to take

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>one more quick break, but when we come back, I

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>want to hear how you guys are balancing such a

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>creative process with the potential toxicity of social media and

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe just maybe you'll play any more music. We'll be

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>right back and we're back. Something that I'm curious about

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that I've experienced, and I'm wondering if you have, because

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>you're now getting all this you know, notoriety and people

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>are reaching out. Have people come back into your life

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're like, oh, I see what you're doing. Yeah, yeah,

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's inevitable. You know. I think I think

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>people sort of if you've known them from the past,

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>they feel like they have a stake in your success

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>or what have you, even if they didn't. Um, And

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>so it's just kind of like taking each of those

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:46.239
<v Speaker 1>outreaches and just being you know, gracious and and saying, hey,

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you for reaching out and being supportive. I mean,

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that's all you. And I like from everyone that I've

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>experienced reaching out like, it's been more like not congratulatory,

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>but more like sharing the law than it can get

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>something from you. Yeah, there's been not a lot of that,

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>but also at the same time, Like I know, we've

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>all been in positions where we ask a favor and

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>we feel uncomfortable asking for a favor, and so I

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>want to give everyone who asked me for a favor

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>in the future or now like that same like benefit

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>of the doubt, benefit of the doubt, because like, not

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>everything helicious or or like self centered. Sometimes it's like

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>truly like some people need a boost. And I truly

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>think I'm nowhere in a position where I can like

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>truly do that yet. But like I know Pass and Paul,

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>like they were mentored by Alan Mencken and they were

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>given that benefit of the doubt there, and I know

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>they want to pass that along to the next whatever,

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>so like I can do that. Yeah, Yeah, I think

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>mentoring is so underrated and it's so powerful. It's so important.

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's so important. Yeah, is there Because

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you're on social media a lot, how are you guys

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>finding a somewhat healthy balance with that, because I'm still

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure that out because I've noticed when I

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time on Instagram that anxiety goes up. Yeah,

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I think before we get into that answer, like the

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>bridge in the musical has been so overwhelmingly positive, Like

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't think either of us can believe that, how

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like little negativity there has been with it, got it

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>um so like it's been a really healthy social media

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>experience for both of us. And I know Abigail can

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>go off because she has a big social media following,

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and anyone with a huge social media following like is

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>going to experience some stupid and dumb hate. But like right,

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, like for mental health, it's pretty short, sweet

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and simple on on how I handle it. But I

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>think I've always struggled with it. I think it's really

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of anxiety around it because I've

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>been growing my social media following since i was sixteen.

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I was on TikTok before it was TikTok and

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>it was musically um also with the hands. Yeah, I

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>got it up to that. I mean I never knew

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that I could not. It was a mess. But it's

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>become such a phenomenon of a platform, and you know,

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you just have to take a step back and not

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>read all the comments. And like when my music wasn't

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>doing as well, like I I went to the comments

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>for all of the feedback, and when I for the validation,

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and when I didn't receive what I wanted to, it

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>just absolutely broke my heart, like broke my spirit, and

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 1>so I just had to take a step back from

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>my sanity, you know. And and then that's when the

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.399
<v Speaker 1>magic happened, when I was just open to being creative again,

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 1>because it got there was a point there before Britain

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>where I was just like, gosh, and am I going

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>to be able to make this happen for myself? And

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 1>then you know, when I stopped worrying so much about it,

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>that's all happened place. Yea. I think the industry like

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>it's filled with extremely high highs and extremely and I

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>think the sooner we learned to come into any situation

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>where we're like, you know, if this works out, oh

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>my god, it's amazing. If it doesn't work out, well

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, will be okay, because it's the experience. And

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that's what I always tell people. I didn't when I

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>pitched this podcast. It wasn't to like have a podcast.

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>It was just for the experience of it. Yeah, And

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>now like what you've done it because we need we

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.439
<v Speaker 1>need more of this. You guys are so sweet. Thank

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you now like me. You guys have worked professionally growing up.

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>You're both in l A now, But Emily, you've spent

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time in my hometown, New York, right.

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I missed New York so much. I studied at Juilliar

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>NYU for like ten years, so I was in New

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>York every month for like ever, and I dream love

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:46.399
<v Speaker 1>New York. It's like my life. Okay, can we talk

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>just for a second about high school and having a

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>professional career at the same time. I don't know if

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 1>you guys feel us, but I feel so much older

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>than my age, so dude, I truly have I get

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>only Oh my god, I'm getting so flustered. I never

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>talked about my career with any of my friends growing up.

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I hated it. Yeah, I didn't talk about it because

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>like my issues where I was like, oh my god,

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing in the Palace and Meena next week, and

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm freaking out because it's a really hard thing, and

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if I ruined this, it's gonna like ruin

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>my career sort of thing. And then they're like, oh

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>my god, did you hear what? Space My problems are

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>bigger than this, y'all. Nothing and like I get it,

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's hard. So I felt like I was just

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>it was in this weird New York high school thing

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>where it's just like so petty, like I don't I

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, I can't know. Yeah, we come. I did school.

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I went to a regular like junior high, and then

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.439
<v Speaker 1>I graduated high school or because I was so done

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>with it, so like we get you, girl, I have

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>one more semester left. I am so close. That's amazing.

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, we want to go to school yet, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I've gone into five schools so far, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really exciting, so exciting. But I'm also considering taking a

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<v Speaker 1>gap year and going out to LA for just to

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<v Speaker 1>see what I did that. I did that, but then

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<v Speaker 1>I also didn't go to college, so you never know

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. I would do it. Gap years are fun,

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<v Speaker 1>gap bears are fun, and I want to live my

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<v Speaker 1>life because I give it up. Dude, you should do

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<v Speaker 1>I like, especially with how well you're like doing the

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<v Speaker 1>school life right now, I think it would be really beneficial.

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<v Speaker 1>I I did that. I graduated high school to two

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<v Speaker 1>years early. I took a gap year, I went on

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<v Speaker 1>this tour and then I came back in January, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to go to Berkeley School of Music

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<v Speaker 1>in the fall, and I was like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to spend the next six months in Rockford, Illinois doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started spending time in l A and then

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<v Speaker 1>I moved here, and then by the time September rolled around,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm not moving so much happening. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to school right now, and so that's here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes a gap year can show you exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do exactly, and that's what I'm thinking of doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when I'm out there, we shall get lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. I know. Also, i've seen before we

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. I feel like we should talk about

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<v Speaker 1>just go into a little bit more in the music

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<v Speaker 1>to see if you can play me something from Britain.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we can, of course, you want the intro.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want the intro or if

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<v Speaker 1>I want Oceans Away or Burned. See this is so

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<v Speaker 1>cool because usually it's like you can't listen to anything,

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<v Speaker 1>But I love that I can listen a while. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys are making it right right, Let's do burn for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Would that be? Would you want or playing the second

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<v Speaker 1>half of burn for you that not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people have heard. Okay, excited, this is what you want. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is obviously still a work in progress, but you

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<v Speaker 1>got a good idea. They kiss, they kiss. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel? I feel wonderful. From the mornings you ease,

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<v Speaker 1>to the evenings you quiet. I'm always thinking of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always streaming of you, from the mornings too late

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<v Speaker 1>to night. It is your like. I'm not sacrifice clean

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes side. I really I bla sall name say

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<v Speaker 1>this one now, I'm gonna be list It's I'm yours, Stefani.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been yours, and I'm yours. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, I have we haven't listened to that back

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<v Speaker 1>and I know it's magical. Bridge see my name. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness. Well I think that was a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to end it. Thank you guys so much for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on my podcast. Thank you so much for having us

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for taking the time. I followed you on Instagram.

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