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Speaker 1: Hey guys, It's Sammy Jay and welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Let's Be Real Podcast. You guys, this episode, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: I am so excited for you to hear it. I

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Speaker 1: think this may be one of my favorite episodes of

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Speaker 1: all time. This week we have two guests, Abigail Barlow

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Speaker 1: and Emily Bear. They are partners in crime. They are

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Speaker 1: Ying and Yang. They are brilliant. Now you've probably have

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Speaker 1: heard of what they're working on Britain the Musical. They

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Speaker 1: are creating a musical in real time on TikTok and

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Speaker 1: I do live and you can see the process before

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Speaker 1: your very eyes. And I'm telling you what these girls

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Speaker 1: are doing and the songs they're creating are just different.

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Speaker 1: They're innovating the space. We talk about what it's like

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Speaker 1: to be gen z since they are twenty two and nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and how to be taken seriously in the business. We

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Speaker 1: also talk about friendships, girls, supporting girls, and so much more.

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Speaker 1: As always, I look forward to your feedback and enjoy.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you guys are all my pod has

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Speaker 1: because I have been on TikTok not as much more viewer.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get into the creating. But I've been

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Speaker 1: following you, Abigail for ever since you created uh Sober.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I saw, I was I just love

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Speaker 1: the creativity because I feel like there's it's awesome when

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Speaker 1: I saw you guys were creating bridgrotin the musical, it

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Speaker 1: made me watch the show first. I love that. First

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Speaker 1: of all, can you talk about how attractive Simon is? Oh?

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Speaker 1: That's literally happy for conversation. We both have boyfriends, but

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Speaker 1: how attractive that man is. It's amazing. I can't He's

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Speaker 1: just perfect. His face, the structure, it's justine muscles with

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Speaker 1: British you automatically get ten more points. It's just and

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Speaker 1: if you're British and like studyingly handsome, it's over and

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Speaker 1: you have abs like we're done, it's good. It's doing here, sir,

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Speaker 1: I was like, that was my first thing. I was like.

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Speaker 1: far into watching the show having Guild, We're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: And then I wrote that song. So, what's your favorite musical,

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Speaker 1: literally it is. It's so you and Yang. So what

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Speaker 1: That's what I always tell and a musical is very daunting.

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Speaker 1: like pushes that it's dumb, Like the media pushes it constantly,

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00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: and it's like, why aren't we just raising each other

427
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: up as much as possible, because that is the most

428
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: important thing. Like I I want to see more women

429
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: doing what we're doing, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

430
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: I want someone to look at us and see like

431
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: two women who are you know, are very different but

432
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: are each paving like your way, and you're you know,

433
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: you guys are changing in the best way because frankly,

434
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: we're at a time and it stands still in the

435
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: pandemic where everyone's thinking, Okay, we need to change things,

436
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: and it's an opportunity to where we can now change

437
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: things because people typically exactly, I think I think the

438
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: change is long overdue, especially in sort of like the

439
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: gate keeper way of making musicals and making content like

440
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: we're making like like we said, it's usually very uh

441
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: secretive and in development for years and then you get

442
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: producers involved, and then the producers change all the things

443
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: and then but we're kind of going directly to the

444
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: audience and really the only metric is do they like it?

445
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: You know, so they now have like an invested interest

446
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: in love for the music that you've never been able

447
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: to that before, and like people who are going to

448
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: come see the show if it ever makes it a Broadway,

449
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: let's manifest. Let's manifest. They'll know all the words, they'll

450
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: sing along. Yeah, look, you know I mean that. But like, yeah,

451
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 1: I think years ago, Netflix probably would have sent us

452
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: to cease and desist you know, but because there's so

453
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: many people that you know, there's so many people that

454
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: love the music, and it's probably like in their best

455
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: interest now that like support at least support the idea

456
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: and you know, be accepting of what's happening. It's really

457
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: really fascinating. I mean, you never know what's going to happen,

458
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: but we know that we both have so many more

459
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: musicals and songs in us, and we just like can't

460
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: wait to start writing for everything. I know. Yeah, And

461
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: I also think one of the things is like when

462
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: you're pitching people, you guys now have the power in

463
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: the sense of we have the people who want to

464
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: see we have the audience who are still engaged in

465
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: the process. It's not like a a is they have

466
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: to take because you have everything like already, which is

467
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: so it goes to show like just by being authentic

468
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: and being creative, you can honestly do what you want,

469
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: which I don't think a lot of people will realize.

470
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't really know how it happened, but we seem

471
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: to sometimes struck a chord and I'm just like, we're

472
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: just really excited about what could be, you know, the

473
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: possibility even beyond um Britain. We've always talked about since

474
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: we first started writing, how we feel like this is

475
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 1: kind of a lifelong partnership and we see each other

476
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: working on multiple things together and and I think it

477
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: still rings true. This is just kind of like the

478
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: first thing that that popped off, and so we're just

479
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: excited to make more now. So excited, I know, is

480
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: there Okay, I will say oceans away and burn through you.

481
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: It is like those just hit a little different just

482
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: in the sense of creating the composition for that. How

483
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: do you choose what goes well because there's so many

484
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: different instruments and sounds and vocals. How do you have

485
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: the sense? Is it just like I mean I got

486
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: feeling where part some things should go or do? How

487
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: do you go about creating something? I did it alive

488
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: yesterday where I was just like purely just orchestrating, and

489
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean some of it is like instinct um and

490
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: other is other parts of it. It's just very much um,

491
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: try and fail sort of thing. But I mean I

492
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: have never orchestrated something so quickly. Is I did those

493
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: two songs. I was like, when we finished those songs together,

494
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: it just fell out. When I like finished the arrangement

495
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: in orchestration, it just fell out, like it's been like

496
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: those songs were really easy to do. I think it's

497
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: because they're inspired by the yeah, by the show, and

498
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: like the feeling that was emulated through the actor's performances.

499
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: I think it just sort of happened. And I always

500
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: say I heard on I was watching the Bags documentary

501
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: and I heard Chris Martin say this incredible thing that

502
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: just completely clicked with me, and he's like, songwriters don't

503
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: really write songs, they received songs. And it's so true.

504
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: It's like it's just floating around in the ether and

505
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: you pick the things out of out of thin air,

506
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: and it's like it just happens. Sometimes. That's why I

507
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: feel a little bit of imposter syndrome, like always Yeah,

508
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of how it happens. I

509
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: feel like it's it's sort of just I I opened

510
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: my mind to allow myself to just write what I'm

511
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing, what I'm feeling. Yeah, And I like

512
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: I someone asked me on Instagram, like a question answer

513
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: thing that you do in your story is like what

514
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: made you fall in love with music? And I thought

515
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: about it and then I was like, you know that,

516
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: I feel like for me, it's when you're in a song,

517
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: or for me an orchestra or the music swells and

518
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: your heart just like lurches like that feeling. I can't

519
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: like magical, it's magical, and I get those feelings from

520
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: those two songs. So are we starting with an album

521
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: and then seeing what happens with it? I mean, we

522
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: have big dream and uh, we're kind of why not.

523
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: We're being approached from a lot of different directions and

524
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: we are still figuring them out and trying to make

525
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: smart decisions and figure out what direction we want to

526
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: go in and all we want to do with it,

527
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: And like, I can't believe we have all of these

528
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: are at our disposal. It's really crazy. It's like it's great,

529
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: but it must be overwhelming too, because it's a little bit.

530
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: I think we're mostly just really really yeah. I think

531
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: the overwhelming stuff comes when we're overthinking things and when

532
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: we just get back to the music and creating, it

533
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: just feels like made like natural for both of us.

534
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: I mean, so after the first two songs were written

535
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: and we got together and we're like, oh my god,

536
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna like try to write a musicals, like an

537
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: entire musical, and like a few weeks and we're like

538
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: about how we're going to do this, Like Hamilton took

539
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: six years to develop, what are you doing? And then

540
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: we just started writing and we got a plan and

541
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: we're like and then we got half a musical one week.

542
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: It's been to three weeks, two weeks, two weeks since

543
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: that first TikTok wild. How much you've, like, what over

544
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: half of the musical done? Yeah, like like eleven songs.

545
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: We're kind of thinking twenty for the concept album, like

546
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: twenty um, and we're kind of half through, halfway through

547
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: telling all the big plot points of the story, you know,

548
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: like for a concept album, because it is just a

549
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: concept album, I think it'll be a little different than

550
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: ever it was like a cast recording. It would be

551
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: very different once you you know, take that concept album

552
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: and then turn it into a Broadway show and it's

553
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: going to be obviously many more songs, many more interludes,

554
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: many more reprises, um, because you know, you you have

555
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: to fill in all the dots. Was more like a

556
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: detailed outline, Yeah, exactly. That's a really great way to

557
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: describe that. Oh, for sure, Okay, we have to take

558
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: one more quick break, but when we come back, I

559
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: want to hear how you guys are balancing such a

560
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: creative process with the potential toxicity of social media and

561
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: maybe just maybe you'll play any more music. We'll be

562
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: right back and we're back. Something that I'm curious about

563
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: that I've experienced, and I'm wondering if you have, because

564
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: you're now getting all this you know, notoriety and people

565
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: are reaching out. Have people come back into your life

566
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, I see what you're doing. Yeah, yeah,

567
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's inevitable. You know. I think I think

568
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: people sort of if you've known them from the past,

569
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: they feel like they have a stake in your success

570
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: or what have you, even if they didn't. Um, And

571
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: so it's just kind of like taking each of those

572
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 1: outreaches and just being you know, gracious and and saying, hey,

573
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: thank you for reaching out and being supportive. I mean,

574
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: that's all you. And I like from everyone that I've

575
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: experienced reaching out like, it's been more like not congratulatory,

576
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: but more like sharing the law than it can get

577
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: something from you. Yeah, there's been not a lot of that,

578
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: but also at the same time, Like I know, we've

579
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: all been in positions where we ask a favor and

580
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: we feel uncomfortable asking for a favor, and so I

581
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: want to give everyone who asked me for a favor

582
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: in the future or now like that same like benefit

583
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: of the doubt, benefit of the doubt, because like, not

584
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: everything helicious or or like self centered. Sometimes it's like

585
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: truly like some people need a boost. And I truly

586
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: think I'm nowhere in a position where I can like

587
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: truly do that yet. But like I know Pass and Paul,

588
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: like they were mentored by Alan Mencken and they were

589
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: given that benefit of the doubt there, and I know

590
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: they want to pass that along to the next whatever,

591
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: so like I can do that. Yeah, Yeah, I think

592
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: mentoring is so underrated and it's so powerful. It's so important.

593
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so important. Yeah, is there Because

594
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: you're on social media a lot, how are you guys

595
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: finding a somewhat healthy balance with that, because I'm still

596
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: trying to figure that out because I've noticed when I

597
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time on Instagram that anxiety goes up. Yeah,

598
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: I think before we get into that answer, like the

599
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: bridge in the musical has been so overwhelmingly positive, Like

600
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: I don't think either of us can believe that, how

601
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: like little negativity there has been with it, got it

602
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: um so like it's been a really healthy social media

603
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: experience for both of us. And I know Abigail can

604
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: go off because she has a big social media following,

605
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: and anyone with a huge social media following like is

606
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: going to experience some stupid and dumb hate. But like right,

607
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: I think, like for mental health, it's pretty short, sweet

608
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: and simple on on how I handle it. But I

609
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: think I've always struggled with it. I think it's really

610
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: I have a lot of anxiety around it because I've

611
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: been growing my social media following since i was sixteen.

612
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: Like I was on TikTok before it was TikTok and

613
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: it was musically um also with the hands. Yeah, I

614
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: got it up to that. I mean I never knew

615
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: that I could not. It was a mess. But it's

616
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: become such a phenomenon of a platform, and you know,

617
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: you just have to take a step back and not

618
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: read all the comments. And like when my music wasn't

619
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: doing as well, like I I went to the comments

620
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: for all of the feedback, and when I for the validation,

621
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: and when I didn't receive what I wanted to, it

622
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: just absolutely broke my heart, like broke my spirit, and

623
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: so I just had to take a step back from

624
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: my sanity, you know. And and then that's when the

625
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: magic happened, when I was just open to being creative again,

626
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: because it got there was a point there before Britain

627
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: where I was just like, gosh, and am I going

628
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: to be able to make this happen for myself? And

629
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: then you know, when I stopped worrying so much about it,

630
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: that's all happened place. Yea. I think the industry like

631
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: it's filled with extremely high highs and extremely and I

632
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: think the sooner we learned to come into any situation

633
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: where we're like, you know, if this works out, oh

634
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: my god, it's amazing. If it doesn't work out, well

635
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: that's okay, will be okay, because it's the experience. And

636
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: that's what I always tell people. I didn't when I

637
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: pitched this podcast. It wasn't to like have a podcast.

638
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: It was just for the experience of it. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: now like what you've done it because we need we

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Speaker 1: need more of this. You guys are so sweet. Thank

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Speaker 1: you now like me. You guys have worked professionally growing up.

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Speaker 1: You're both in l A now, But Emily, you've spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of time in my hometown, New York, right.

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Speaker 1: I missed New York so much. I studied at Juilliar

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Speaker 1: NYU for like ten years, so I was in New

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Speaker 1: York every month for like ever, and I dream love

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Speaker 1: New York. It's like my life. Okay, can we talk

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Speaker 1: just for a second about high school and having a

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Speaker 1: professional career at the same time. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys feel us, but I feel so much older

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Speaker 1: than my age, so dude, I truly have I get

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Speaker 1: only Oh my god, I'm getting so flustered. I never

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Speaker 1: talked about my career with any of my friends growing up.

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Speaker 1: I hated it. Yeah, I didn't talk about it because

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Speaker 1: like my issues where I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm playing in the Palace and Meena next week, and

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Speaker 1: I'm freaking out because it's a really hard thing, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, if I ruined this, it's gonna like ruin

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Speaker 1: my career sort of thing. And then they're like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, did you hear what? Space My problems are

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Speaker 1: bigger than this, y'all. Nothing and like I get it,

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Speaker 1: but it's hard. So I felt like I was just

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Speaker 1: it was in this weird New York high school thing

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Speaker 1: where it's just like so petty, like I don't I

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Speaker 1: was like, I can't know. Yeah, we come. I did school.

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Speaker 1: I went to a regular like junior high, and then

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Speaker 1: I graduated high school or because I was so done

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Speaker 1: with it, so like we get you, girl, I have

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Speaker 1: one more semester left. I am so close. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: You know, we want to go to school yet, right,

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Speaker 1: So I've gone into five schools so far, which is

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Speaker 1: really exciting, so exciting. But I'm also considering taking a

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Speaker 1: gap year and going out to LA for just to

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Speaker 1: see what I did that. I did that, but then

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Speaker 1: I also didn't go to college, so you never know

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Speaker 1: what happens. I would do it. Gap years are fun,

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Speaker 1: gap bears are fun, and I want to live my

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Speaker 1: life because I give it up. Dude, you should do

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Speaker 1: I like, especially with how well you're like doing the

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Speaker 1: school life right now, I think it would be really beneficial.

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Speaker 1: I I did that. I graduated high school to two

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Speaker 1: years early. I took a gap year, I went on

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Speaker 1: this tour and then I came back in January, and

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to go to Berkeley School of Music

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Speaker 1: in the fall, and I was like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to spend the next six months in Rockford, Illinois doing nothing.

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Speaker 1: So I started spending time in l A and then

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Speaker 1: I moved here, and then by the time September rolled around,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not moving so much happening. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to school right now, and so that's here we are.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes a gap year can show you exactly what you

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Speaker 1: want to do exactly, and that's what I'm thinking of doing.

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Speaker 1: But you know, when I'm out there, we shall get lunch.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I know. Also, i've seen before we

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Speaker 1: on this podcast. I feel like we should talk about

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Speaker 1: just go into a little bit more in the music

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Speaker 1: to see if you can play me something from Britain.

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Speaker 1: I know we can, of course, you want the intro.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I want the intro or if

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Speaker 1: I want Oceans Away or Burned. See this is so

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Speaker 1: cool because usually it's like you can't listen to anything,

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Speaker 1: But I love that I can listen a while. You

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Speaker 1: guys are making it right right, Let's do burn for you?

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Speaker 1: Would that be? Would you want or playing the second

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Speaker 1: half of burn for you that not a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have heard. Okay, excited, this is what you want. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is obviously still a work in progress, but you

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Speaker 1: got a good idea. They kiss, they kiss. How do

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Speaker 1: you feel? I feel wonderful. From the mornings you ease,

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Speaker 1: to the evenings you quiet. I'm always thinking of you.

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Speaker 1: I'm always streaming of you, from the mornings too late

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Speaker 1: to night. It is your like. I'm not sacrifice clean

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Speaker 1: my eyes side. I really I bla sall name say

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Speaker 1: this one now, I'm gonna be list It's I'm yours, Stefani.

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Speaker 1: I've always been yours, and I'm yours. It's so good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, I have we haven't listened to that back

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Speaker 1: and I know it's magical. Bridge see my name. Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness. Well I think that was a great way

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Speaker 1: to end it. Thank you guys so much for coming

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Speaker 1: on my podcast. Thank you so much for having us

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Speaker 1: so I know you guys. Please check out the tip

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Speaker 1: Talk follow like watch live streams. It is truly so

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Speaker 1: incredible to watch. It was so great to meet you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time. I followed you on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We must meet. I'm down. I just want to thank

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Speaker 1: Abigail and Emily for coming on my podcast. I felt

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Speaker 1: like I'd known them for years and I love this

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Speaker 1: conversation so much. I hope you liked it. If you

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Speaker 1: haven't already subscribed to my podcast, leave a comment because

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Speaker 1: I always love to hear your feedback. And follow me

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Speaker 1: on Instagram at its Sammy J. That's I T S

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Speaker 1: S A M M Y J A y E. And

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Speaker 1: also follow Abigail and Emily on all of their socials.

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Speaker 1: Follow them on TikTok you can see them create a

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Speaker 1: musical in real time. Keep up with the content as

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Speaker 1: it's coming out. Follow them on Instagram as well. It's

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Speaker 1: Abigail Barlow and Emily's is m L E. Bear. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening. I hope you guys had a great

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Speaker 1: day and I hope this episode made it a little better. Bye, guys.

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Speaker 1: That's tw