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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, November tenth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number fifty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break Life in st WBCT Mortgage Studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: Today we turned the page. We start looking forward. We
Speaker 1: moved away from Denver and head toward Atlanta. Cowboys face
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons this Sunday at noon at at and
Speaker 1: T Stadium. It's our job to get you guys ready,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what we will do on today's show.
Speaker 1: Let's let's start first with some news. It broke yesterday,
Speaker 1: kicker Greg Zerline added to the COVID list. Um, let's
Speaker 1: start first with how big of a deal is this
Speaker 1: for Dallas? Because I get the impression. Well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you my thoughts on Zerline. I think he's a
Speaker 1: good kicker. I don't think he's an elite kicker, and
Speaker 1: but on the flip side of that, I think he's
Speaker 1: pretty money when it comes to money kicks, When it
Speaker 1: comes down to end the game kicks, he tends to
Speaker 1: make them work. So how big of a deal is
Speaker 1: this for them if they can't get him to play
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Hopefully it's not a big deal at all.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it just means they won't kick. I hope. Just
Speaker 1: just go for it every time, Just go for it.
Speaker 1: You name two elite kickers one I can name one, right,
Speaker 1: I mean Tucker two younger young Waiku in Atlanta's pretty
Speaker 1: damn kicking. But yeah, yeah, he is doing well as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact that we will see him this Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeah him. I bet there's another one I thought hard.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Harrison Bucker in Kansas City. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: There's probably three. I just I mean, I think he's
Speaker 1: been pretty good, Zerline, and I think most kickers are
Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, last time we saw a Tucker,
Speaker 1: he missed. I don't know if he's missed since, but
Speaker 1: I know he missed against the Cowboy. He doesn't miss
Speaker 1: he doesn't and he can make it from what sixty six, Yeah,
Speaker 1: wherever them he pretty much whatever, put the ball down,
Speaker 1: up and put the ball down. But my point is that,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think Zirline has been pretty
Speaker 1: good based off of, you know, just what most kickers
Speaker 1: are around the league. When I was gonna say, when
Speaker 1: the news came out and I was looking around on
Speaker 1: Twitter and seeing like what fans were saying, you know,
Speaker 1: the amount of comment of people just being really excited
Speaker 1: that this happened because he gives a cow with an
Speaker 1: opportunity to bring another kicker in, try him out, hopefully
Speaker 1: be better than Shirline. But but then, and although I
Speaker 1: agree to a certain level or extent, I'm like, to
Speaker 1: you guys this point, who is better out there? And
Speaker 1: if whatever other kicker you bring, he's not going to
Speaker 1: be that far better than than what Sterling has been.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, it's not great that sometimes he misses,
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like, okay, what else,
Speaker 1: what what's the other option? We as a fan base
Speaker 1: are spoiled by having a guy that was a Justin
Speaker 1: Tucker for a decade, and they had Dan Bailey he
Speaker 1: was automatic for eight years, um and and it goes
Speaker 1: back to you know, you you you're harsh on Dak
Speaker 1: because you see every throw that he makes, and you
Speaker 1: don't follow every quarterback that closely. You're probably only seeing
Speaker 1: other kickers if they're not playing your team. It's when
Speaker 1: Fox cuts in to show you their game winner and
Speaker 1: you're like, damn, that's a good kick, right, and you're
Speaker 1: not seeing the miss from forty two that he had
Speaker 1: earlier in the game. And it's subjective. Um, I think
Speaker 1: the thing, and I think you've said this, Derek. The
Speaker 1: thing that concerns me is he does have a pension
Speaker 1: for the dramatic kick. Um Like he hit game winner
Speaker 1: against atlant last year, had a fifty five yard game
Speaker 1: winner this year. His uh the go ahead against Tampa
Speaker 1: that ultimately didn't win him the game was from forty eight.
Speaker 1: So he's he's reliable in those clutch situations from what
Speaker 1: we've seen. Um, you'd like to think that it won't
Speaker 1: come down to that against Atlanta this week, but you
Speaker 1: never know, so that that worries me. Um. But he's
Speaker 1: seventy eight percent on the year, which is not a
Speaker 1: good percentage at all. So I think I said last
Speaker 1: week it was like I think he's twenty first, I
Speaker 1: want to say in the league in kicking percentage, I'd
Speaker 1: rather not have to think about this. But I don't
Speaker 1: think it's such a dramatic drop off that I'm worried
Speaker 1: about it. And I'm I said it tongue in cheek,
Speaker 1: but I'm serious, Like fourth and three and in unless
Speaker 1: it's just an unless it's a pressure situation where you
Speaker 1: need the points because it's late in the game or whatever,
Speaker 1: I just go for it. Take it off your kicker shoulders.
Speaker 1: There's been, hey haven't. It's fine. I know that. That's
Speaker 1: what's frustrating about it is that it because a lot
Speaker 1: of people are, especially on the second one was like,
Speaker 1: just just get the field goal. But how have they
Speaker 1: been this year when when it comes to fourth downs?
Speaker 1: Because I don't know it to me and I don't
Speaker 1: know the stats. I don't know the stats, but it
Speaker 1: feels like they're not a great fourth down team. They're
Speaker 1: They're not. Really Yeah, I still don't care, and I
Speaker 1: do think that at some point. The reason why I
Speaker 1: think statistically everyone always talks about, hey, it's always good
Speaker 1: to go forward and fourth downs because there was a
Speaker 1: time in the NFL when basically you could get a
Speaker 1: fourth down just like this, especially its fourth and short,
Speaker 1: still a quarterback sneak. Now teams that isn't as easy
Speaker 1: as it once was, And I'm starting to wonder if
Speaker 1: the stats aren't. The data isn't starting to say, and
Speaker 1: maybe it's not a good idea to go for it
Speaker 1: on fourth down as frequently as maybe it was years ago.
Speaker 1: I don't think it. Offensive line isn't as good as
Speaker 1: it was a few years ago. It's not. It's not
Speaker 1: very I mean, Connor Williams is kind of just an
Speaker 1: average guard. I think Beyondest is not an average center.
Speaker 1: Right now. You know they're left tackle. Yes, last week
Speaker 1: was not very good in the game. You know, Lyle's
Speaker 1: working his way back in and Zach Martin's probably the
Speaker 1: best guard in football. But it's hard to you know
Speaker 1: that the line is just not something you could count
Speaker 1: on like you used to. So fourth and inches, fourth
Speaker 1: and one, fourth and two, you know, it's that's something
Speaker 1: that they're having to deal with right now. Well, and
Speaker 1: you don't have to crowd people into the box and
Speaker 1: telegraph what you're gonna do. I mean, they didn't get it.
Speaker 1: The call to centric Wilson was perfect. It was it
Speaker 1: was perfect. He might have scored. Throw a better ball,
Speaker 1: and don't let the fact that it didn't work scare
Speaker 1: you in the future, because I'll take Dak completing that
Speaker 1: past ninety nine times out of one hundred. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: is what I mean. And that's what makes football so
Speaker 1: great is you get one shot at these things and
Speaker 1: he normally makes that throw. That's yeah. But the but
Speaker 1: the fourth I mean, but the fourth and ones and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. We saw it in New England. We
Speaker 1: saw it in the goal line in New England. We
Speaker 1: saw it that whole game. You know, they're just not
Speaker 1: pushing people back and that's just plain and simple. They're
Speaker 1: not doing that. So you know they they're gonna have
Speaker 1: They can't just run up to say I'm better than
Speaker 1: you and we're gonna just get this yard yard because
Speaker 1: it's not always working, all right. They're twenty seventh and
Speaker 1: fourth down conversion percentage, which is rough. That's not they're
Speaker 1: six and two. I mean, it hasn't gotten in their
Speaker 1: way too much. I'm and and again you're in a
Speaker 1: situation where if you're well, it depends on who wins
Speaker 1: this tryout. You our Buddy Brett Maher is one of
Speaker 1: these guys. You read that right, um? But and Hira
Speaker 1: Lula whom leram Hira lah who ain't that fall? Thank you?
Speaker 1: But I'll take I'll take Dak Prescott converting a fourth
Speaker 1: down over putting a guy who's never kicked an NFL
Speaker 1: kick in into too much of a pressure situation. Like
Speaker 1: I said, if it's if that's the sensible call, then
Speaker 1: do it. But if it's close, I'd rather put faith
Speaker 1: in my offense. Yeah, And I guess this goes back
Speaker 1: to the old line conversation and how they've been this
Speaker 1: year because a lot of the times they're trying to
Speaker 1: run the ball in situations like that, and I'm not.
Speaker 1: I feel like I wasn't as used to seeing this
Speaker 1: as like early on when he first got here. But
Speaker 1: with Zeke, for example, sometimes it's like he bounces off,
Speaker 1: like he hits a wall and just like bounces back.
Speaker 1: So there's not that kind of power that he's used
Speaker 1: to having. Some comes from the online, but some I
Speaker 1: guess from himself too. He's lacking and I love what
Speaker 1: he's doing. I don't think he's having a bad year
Speaker 1: or anything. I think he's doing a good job, especially
Speaker 1: opposed to last year. But still there's like a tiny
Speaker 1: tiny bit of lack of that extra that extra power
Speaker 1: that he he's used to showing us earlier on when
Speaker 1: he first got here. All right, real quick, before we
Speaker 1: take our first break, giving an update on who's practicing today,
Speaker 1: the injury list, just the guys that are going to
Speaker 1: be in and out that we that we I guess
Speaker 1: need to keep an eye on this week. Tyrn Smith
Speaker 1: is not going to practice. He will be in the
Speaker 1: rehab group, so will be out on the field doing things.
Speaker 1: He just won't be taking reps. It's a step in
Speaker 1: the right direction. It's probably not as good as you
Speaker 1: would have wanted to hear today. We'll see how it goes. Zeke,
Speaker 1: Zack Martin are gonna they're taking vet days. They'll be involved,
Speaker 1: but they're not gonna get the full workload. I think
Speaker 1: there was one more guy in that group, Amari maybe, um, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. Amari Cooper is also in that group. So
Speaker 1: those three they're fine, but they'll be limited today. That's
Speaker 1: Gallup is the full go guy. Yeah, Gallup will be
Speaker 1: CD will be full today. As far as I'm I
Speaker 1: just I really am. That's my own concern. I really
Speaker 1: want this receiver group back out there practicing because I
Speaker 1: think that was a part of it last week. I
Speaker 1: think Dak needs the work. I think the receivers need
Speaker 1: the work, and I think they all need to work
Speaker 1: together in order to get that timing back right, because
Speaker 1: it certainly was not right last week. All right, here's
Speaker 1: what's gonna do. We're gonna take our first break and
Speaker 1: we come back. We'll be joined by Bucky Brooks of
Speaker 1: NFL Network. He will talk to us about this Atlanta
Speaker 1: offense facing off against the Dallas defense that when we
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Speaker 1: we We're joined right now by Bucky Brooks of NFL
Speaker 1: Network as as usual, bringing in Bucky. You talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about the opposing offense on Wednesday. Bucky, let's
Speaker 1: start first with the fact that this is an offense
Speaker 1: in Atlanta that that has changed I think a lot
Speaker 1: over the last several years, losing some of the mainstay players. Uh,
Speaker 1: what do you think this offense does best? Where? When
Speaker 1: are they at their best? I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: got him all right, Well, we'll go ahead and talk
Speaker 1: about this a little bit nothing before we get him back.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was trying to answer it's nothing. They don't
Speaker 1: do anything. Well, I'm sure they did something to beat
Speaker 1: the Saints. What does that say about the Saints? Again?
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. We are not acting like the
Speaker 1: last week, Tali member, we are talking, we are not.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they're they're doing something right. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: you know, just gonna get their ass kicked I mean,
Speaker 1: I can tell you that, but but they're doing something
Speaker 1: right now. Why can't you tell us that they just will?
Speaker 1: Because they just will. I I don't know. Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: put it down thirty one to ten. I'll just put
Speaker 1: my score. Okay, it's Wednesday, cool Gill some time to
Speaker 1: get through this thing. I might give him a field
Speaker 1: goal later in the we got we got Bucky Brooks
Speaker 1: joining us. Now, Bucky, I was asking about this this
Speaker 1: offense that I think has changed quite a bit over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Tell me what this offense
Speaker 1: does best. When are they at their best? Give it
Speaker 1: the Maddy Ice and that mighty Ice go to work.
Speaker 1: I think when you look at this talking team and
Speaker 1: what they have, they have really good skill players. And
Speaker 1: so you have Canaryl Patterson, who was doing a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything. You have Maddie Ice, who's throwing the
Speaker 1: ball to anyone is open, and then you have Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 1: who is a bit of a unicorn on a perimeter.
Speaker 1: And so it's a very interesting matchup. Is one that
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like they have a lot of names,
Speaker 1: but man, they're playing really well and Arthur Smith is
Speaker 1: figuring out how to use all the pieces that he
Speaker 1: has around it. Is Patterson like, I mean, I know
Speaker 1: Hester is probably gonna go in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Is Patterson like at that level of like as a
Speaker 1: returner dynamic player. I know he's doing great on offense,
Speaker 1: but I mean, he seems like he's one of the
Speaker 1: most feared kick returners ever. I mean, he is definitely
Speaker 1: one of the best two have ever played the game.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's Gold jacket worthy, but he's
Speaker 1: a difference maker. I think when you think about a
Speaker 1: guy who's been a multiple time All Pro returner, someone
Speaker 1: who can take it the distance anytime he touches it,
Speaker 1: you certainly have to be aware of him. I think
Speaker 1: the thing that he's done the last couple of years, though,
Speaker 1: has reinvented himself as a multipurpose dynamic player. His ability
Speaker 1: to do it as a runner, a receiver, a returner
Speaker 1: has really allowed creative minds to do some things with him.
Speaker 1: And then he's put it all together down in Atlanta
Speaker 1: because Arthur Smith certainly understands how to utilize him in
Speaker 1: a way to create and take advantage of mismatches. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a Hall of Fame player,
Speaker 1: but he's definitely a dangerous player to watch. I want
Speaker 1: to get into that a little bit more Bucky, because
Speaker 1: he's probably he's gonna set a career high for receiving
Speaker 1: this week. He only needs eleven yards. He's at all
Speaker 1: I mean, he's at five hundred yards at the halfway point.
Speaker 1: He's never had that good of a season as a receiver.
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith gets a lot of credit for being really
Speaker 1: creative the offense that he had in Tennessee. Is it
Speaker 1: that where is he just making it easy for him
Speaker 1: or is it more him developing as a route runner,
Speaker 1: because we just as dynamic as he is as an athlete,
Speaker 1: we just haven't seen this level of production from him
Speaker 1: really ever. I think Arthur Smith is the first coach
Speaker 1: who understood how to tap into all the things that
Speaker 1: could Patterson brought to the table. If you go all
Speaker 1: the way back to when he was a player at Tennessee,
Speaker 1: he played the game in a way that is very
Speaker 1: similar to the way he's been utilized with the Falcons.
Speaker 1: He was a mix of a runner, a receiver, a returner,
Speaker 1: and at the University of Tennessee he was terrific in
Speaker 1: the one season or two seasons that he was there,
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's being able to find a way to take
Speaker 1: all of those skills and to put him in a
Speaker 1: game plan where he doesn't go these long stretches without
Speaker 1: touching the ball. And so when you're able to get
Speaker 1: him matched up on linebackers, advantage goes to Kadero Patterson
Speaker 1: and they're putting in sets and formations where you're forced
Speaker 1: to put a linebacker or a safety on him and
Speaker 1: he's tearing them up. And so it's a combination of
Speaker 1: Kadera Patterson continue to evolve, but really it's about the
Speaker 1: play calling play designer put him in spots where he
Speaker 1: can do the things that he does well. Fucky with
Speaker 1: Trevor Diggs getting a lot of criticism this past week,
Speaker 1: what are some of the things that they can do
Speaker 1: with him against an offense like this to kind of
Speaker 1: get him back on track and on course? Well, I mean, one,
Speaker 1: you gotta let him know that he's going to be
Speaker 1: a target. As much as he's taking the ball away,
Speaker 1: he's also giving up some plays and so teams are
Speaker 1: going to test them early and often to see if
Speaker 1: they can catch him with his hand in the cookie
Speaker 1: Jarb and so he just has to be disciplined enough
Speaker 1: to know when to pick and choose when to gamble.
Speaker 1: But right now he is a target because he has
Speaker 1: given up so many big plays. And the first thing
Speaker 1: that you do as an offensive coordinator is you try
Speaker 1: and find I don't want to call him walter, but
Speaker 1: you try and find the guy who is gullible enough
Speaker 1: to double move and to get on trick plays. Right now,
Speaker 1: Diggs is putting enough stuff on tape that people are
Speaker 1: going at him. He just needs to be solid, solid
Speaker 1: in this technique, soiling his fundamentals, and just play the
Speaker 1: game the right way. You would think in a week
Speaker 1: like this, Treyvon Diggs would be matching up quite a
Speaker 1: bit with Calvin Ridley, but as we know, Calvin Ridley
Speaker 1: is out at this point, he's out taking a break
Speaker 1: from football, as he calls it. How much has the
Speaker 1: loss of Calvin really hurt this offense and who is
Speaker 1: stepping into his role at this point for them? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it's certainly hurtson because he's a guy that
Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl caliber player. He was the number
Speaker 1: one receiver a season ago, and that's when Julio Jones
Speaker 1: was on the field, you lose him. Now you kind
Speaker 1: of have to spread the well. Originally, cow piss was
Speaker 1: the biggest beneficiary of Calvin Ridley being gone two weeks
Speaker 1: back to back, he went over a hundred yards. Well
Speaker 1: last week it was a little slore, and so now
Speaker 1: they're kind of doing it by committee. Christian Blake, Russell
Speaker 1: Gage a little bit of anybody and everybody touching the
Speaker 1: ball because Mattie Ice is just throwing it to the
Speaker 1: open receiver. And so the challenge for the Cowboys is
Speaker 1: you don't really know who is going to be the
Speaker 1: guy because matt Ryan has enough trust and his guys
Speaker 1: that he's just throwing it to the open man. That
Speaker 1: makes it very very difficult on the defense. Who are
Speaker 1: the running backs? Um, because last week, you know, well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I'm saying. Last week we didn't
Speaker 1: even know who Denver's running backs were. You know that
Speaker 1: they weren't like household names. But yeah, they just you know,
Speaker 1: ran through the Cowboys defense time and time again. Or
Speaker 1: do they have those type of backs that can that
Speaker 1: can hurt them that way? Well, I mean everybody in
Speaker 1: the league has backs that can can hurt you. If
Speaker 1: you're not focused. I think the Cowboys problem last week
Speaker 1: was more of handling success as opposed to what the
Speaker 1: town on the other side did. This week. You're talking
Speaker 1: about Mike Davis, You're talking about Goodell Patterson, Wayne Gallman
Speaker 1: making in. I wouldn't say that any of those guys
Speaker 1: are a level running backs, but they do just enough
Speaker 1: to make them dangerous. Mike Davis is a big, physical back.
Speaker 1: If you let him get going, he's certainly been able
Speaker 1: to put up one hundred right games in this league.
Speaker 1: I think this is a game where, if you're Dan Flint,
Speaker 1: you stand in front of the room and say, look,
Speaker 1: it's less about them, It's more about us. Let's make
Speaker 1: sure we're detailed on the gap fits, we're playing with
Speaker 1: the right effort and energy, and let's play the right way.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily about who we're facing on the other side.
Speaker 1: It's about playing the right way. This week seems to
Speaker 1: me like Arthur Smith kind of got famous for leaning
Speaker 1: on twelve personnel when he was with the Titans. It
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like Hayden Hurst is having this amazing year
Speaker 1: for Atlanta, But is that something that they do do
Speaker 1: they lean on twelve personnel. I see they run it
Speaker 1: like thirty thirty five percent of the time, and is
Speaker 1: especially with Calvin Ridley not playing, is that something that
Speaker 1: we should be looking for from their game plan. We
Speaker 1: know a good thing about Arthur Smiths. He just kind
Speaker 1: of takes the talent that you have and try and
Speaker 1: figure out the best way to use it. The way
Speaker 1: that he played at Tennessee is not quite the same
Speaker 1: way that he is at Atlanta. Maybe it's because the
Speaker 1: quarterback is better, maybe the quarterback does different things. They
Speaker 1: still will mix in some twelve, but they're really kind
Speaker 1: of all over the place in terms of their personnel groupings.
Speaker 1: They're gonna put players on the field and see what
Speaker 1: gives the defense the biggest challenge, and then they're gonna
Speaker 1: sit in there. So early in the game, he's gonna
Speaker 1: spend the wheel, give you a bunch of different looks,
Speaker 1: and then whatever is looking like it's working the best,
Speaker 1: he's gonna stay in that package. But Yeah, I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you. We've seen, and we've talked about it
Speaker 1: this season with the Cowboys defense, how they've struggled in
Speaker 1: allowing big plays. I haven't watched a lot of film
Speaker 1: from this team. But is this a team that has
Speaker 1: been putting out despite their losses here and there? Is
Speaker 1: this a team that has been putting out big place
Speaker 1: on tape. Well, last game they had four players of
Speaker 1: thirty yards or more. So if they can doll it up,
Speaker 1: they will doll it up. And they have a handful
Speaker 1: of players that can get it done and can get
Speaker 1: over the top. Mandy Ice likes to play a ball
Speaker 1: control possession game where it's short and intermediate. But man,
Speaker 1: if you give him the lottery ticket, he's gonna cash
Speaker 1: it in. And so for the Cowboys, it literally is
Speaker 1: about being sound in their technique. I think this is
Speaker 1: a great get right week in terms of a maybe
Speaker 1: simplify the package even more, clean up the mistakes, try
Speaker 1: and make it where they're just playing without thinking and
Speaker 1: see if they can get back on track. But no,
Speaker 1: they can't let the ball flower over their head. Because
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons are sitting in a situation where they
Speaker 1: feel like they may be able to get into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and so they're going to bring the effort and energy.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys gotta match it, and they can't let them
Speaker 1: have success early because then you're dealing with a sixty
Speaker 1: minute affair. All right, Buck has good stuff. Man. We'll
Speaker 1: catch back up with you tomorrow. Talk a little bit
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Speaker 1: at the Start, Nick, give me a fifty eight um.
Speaker 1: Scott Shanley, Wow, you pull that one out. Linebacker ended
Speaker 1: up with the Saints. Do you go to Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with them? Yeah? I was a good player for them.
Speaker 1: He was a good player for them. The Oreo defense. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that's where are you going with it? No, that's what
Speaker 1: they called it. It was because they had Scott Shanley,
Speaker 1: Scott Figeta, and another white guy. They all played linebacker
Speaker 1: and they were the only white guys on the defense.
Speaker 1: Like basically the secondary. Yeah, defensive live I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: They called it the Oreo defense. We called it that
Speaker 1: for years in New Orleans. Anyway, Sorry, got it, learned something?
Speaker 1: I mean. The real answer is a guy named Mike Hegman.
Speaker 1: He played like thirteen fourteen seasons. Is he good? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was a good player. He scored a touchdown in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl seventies, which eighties they were both thirteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: what happened on the play. He stripped the ball from
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw and returned it for maybe forty one yards
Speaker 1: for a touchdown early in that game. But they ended
Speaker 1: up losing thirty five to thirty one in the Orange
Speaker 1: Bowl over there because Jackie Smith dropped the past. He
Speaker 1: probably was the sickest man in America, and they lost
Speaker 1: the brilliance of well I knew that I didn't know
Speaker 1: about the well he laid out the whole. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1: I love about this guy. That was great. Who else
Speaker 1: does it? Verne Quist brad Sham. I'm guessing you weren't
Speaker 1: doing that in math class, but if you were, you
Speaker 1: would have been My god, my grades were so terrible.
Speaker 1: But if they would have had a sports class, you'd
Speaker 1: have killed it Dallas Cowboys sports like he would have
Speaker 1: killed Nick and I aren't similar. I'm sorry, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying my mom is famously said to me
Speaker 1: on a bad report card. You can't just work for
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. That is not a job. You have to
Speaker 1: study and get your books right. And here we all
Speaker 1: are working for all your dreams. Kids. Nick and I
Speaker 1: aren't all that similar, like across the board, but we
Speaker 1: have that. And like I might not know what day
Speaker 1: of the week it is, but I can tell you
Speaker 1: the score of Super Bowl whatever. And I don't love
Speaker 1: that about myself, but greatness, here we are. We have
Speaker 1: a lot in common. We'll be watching the same football
Speaker 1: game this week, slightly different ruling interests. Let the Pigs
Speaker 1: are playing the Tigers on Saturday, Red versus the battle
Speaker 1: for the Golden Boot is what I'll do, should it be.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a break. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to talk trash. This is probably this is the first
Speaker 1: time in a while where Arkansas and LSU are kind
Speaker 1: of like on a level playing field where we both
Speaker 1: think we've got a chance to win the problem with
Speaker 1: the t shirt bet okay, because because we'll probably one
Speaker 1: of us is five six because I have to wear Dave.
Speaker 1: I have not cool. The day's gonna walk in here
Speaker 1: like well, like he's wearing his dad's shirt about the
Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan. You're you're I think this will be awesome.
Speaker 1: I got, I got an article, I got, I get
Speaker 1: Danny mccrazy. This is perfect. Let's do that. Actually, I'll
Speaker 1: bring you. I'll bring you Brian's sugar bowl jersey. All right.
Speaker 1: If LSU beats Arkansas, I will wear I will wear Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. I will wear the broadest jersey.
Speaker 1: This is fifty five. If Arkansas wins. What do I
Speaker 1: have to do? You have don't have to okay, And
Speaker 1: it's a number nine Jones jersey. You have a John
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones. No, it's a Matt Jones right now. It's
Speaker 1: he does wear nine, right, So yeah, the important the family.
Speaker 1: I'll do it. Oh, no, I don't wear that. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, no, I'll wear I'll wear anything. Before
Speaker 1: I put a pig snout on my face. That actual
Speaker 1: would be funny. I'm kind of the same way I
Speaker 1: do that. All Right, we got a bed here. I
Speaker 1: have a lot of face paint whoa, Yeah, let's take
Speaker 1: one more knots the guy whose team got run out
Speaker 1: of aims. You're right over here, exactly. I got nothing
Speaker 1: else to root it for it right now, but just craziness. Okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, let's do it. I'm in all right, let's up.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to Dallas defense talk. Um, here's a
Speaker 1: big question for you guys at this point, after what
Speaker 1: we saw in Minnesota. I'll speak for myself. I thought
Speaker 1: this defense was turning the corner from being a byproduct
Speaker 1: of a high scoring offense to being a defense that
Speaker 1: really could win games for this team. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what I think after Denver, where do you land with
Speaker 1: this defense? After watching both those games? Now, you gotta
Speaker 1: have help to be a good defense, you gotta have
Speaker 1: some help. The offense wasn't giving him any help there,
Speaker 1: so to just keep you know, never scoring, never really
Speaker 1: putting pressure on the defense to go out like or
Speaker 1: to put pressure on the Broncos like, okay, we got
Speaker 1: a score right now. I mean they never really did that.
Speaker 1: So it was a difference though, because they did against Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and you would think Minnesota is a better offense than Denver. Right, No,
Speaker 1: but I mean, my point is that at least even
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, the offense was kind of helping them a
Speaker 1: little bit. They were scoring three points in the first half. Well,
Speaker 1: then they scored one coming out of the second half.
Speaker 1: I mean like that, that game was completely different. It's
Speaker 1: a different type of game. But at least they got
Speaker 1: some points there. But I don't know, they didn't tackle.
Speaker 1: They just chose not to tackle this game. That's what
Speaker 1: it was. They just said, we don't need to tackle.
Speaker 1: Definitely agree with that. That is the number. I think
Speaker 1: I'd already talked about this, like they've never they have
Speaker 1: not been great against the run all year, but they
Speaker 1: have got they have rallied to the ball and gotten
Speaker 1: guys down. And you give up a twelve yard play,
Speaker 1: you live to fight another play, you forced the punt
Speaker 1: on the next series. Like that last week, they just
Speaker 1: they just looked like they forgot how to do some
Speaker 1: of the basic stuff. I will say sometimes I think
Speaker 1: we get into this echo chamber where like it's only
Speaker 1: about what the Cowboys do. I think the Vikings helped
Speaker 1: them a lot in that game, like the way they
Speaker 1: called that game. Kirk Cousins is notorious for being inconsistent.
Speaker 1: They did some stupid stuff where they and I mean
Speaker 1: the Cowboys get credit too, but like they're the plays
Speaker 1: they're calling, they're not helping themselves. I felt that way
Speaker 1: in the whole second half, like, man, they kind of
Speaker 1: they forgot these receivers play on this team, Like what's
Speaker 1: going on? So I think that's part of it too,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't feel a ton different. Like I
Speaker 1: refuse to take the bait that this is an elite defense.
Speaker 1: I argue with Danny McCrae about this, Like every week
Speaker 1: he's like, we're gonna be top ten by the end
Speaker 1: of the year. I'm like, I really don't think that's true, Danny.
Speaker 1: But now still are though, right, I don't know the
Speaker 1: whereas of last week, they're I mean they are much
Speaker 1: They're much closer than I would have ever given them
Speaker 1: credit for it. They're better than I expect them to be.
Speaker 1: I still just don't think that this defense is ever
Speaker 1: going to be the calling card of this team, especially
Speaker 1: when they're not getting takeaways. But even more so, to
Speaker 1: Nick's point, if they're not tackling, I mean, that's if
Speaker 1: I could fix anything, it's that and just in general,
Speaker 1: like the way that it always felt like every other
Speaker 1: game there's like two or three, preferably even four hats
Speaker 1: around the ball. Just didn't feel that way on Sunday.
Speaker 1: And that's the big thing for me. Where are you ever?
Speaker 1: I absolutely hate this term, well I hate that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it, but to me, they it is what
Speaker 1: it is. It's that whole band, don't break type of defense.
Speaker 1: To me, that's what they've been. They've improved a whole
Speaker 1: lot compared to last year, but they haven't been impressive.
Speaker 1: You know, They've made impressive place, but overall, I just
Speaker 1: take last week's loss as something that Okay, let's just
Speaker 1: live it behind. Let's see what they do this week.
Speaker 1: Why because it wasn't it just like in this area.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just like oh the secondary, the linebacker. It
Speaker 1: was like all across the board, all over the field
Speaker 1: offense defense. So yeah, they need to improve the tackling it.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, and I'm like, okay, this
Speaker 1: is going down the drain or anything. I just want
Speaker 1: to give them another week see how they react. I
Speaker 1: really do like Dan Quinn a lot, and I think
Speaker 1: that based on what I've heard him say and the
Speaker 1: way he speaks, He's gonna turn it up several notches
Speaker 1: this week in practice and really put them to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So I want to really see how they
Speaker 1: come out this week and the kinds of things that
Speaker 1: dan Quinn does with them, I mean, bringing the fireback.
Speaker 1: As I went back and watched this game, Nick, I
Speaker 1: was mentioning this to you this morning, So I went
Speaker 1: back and watched this game. I know, yesterday I said
Speaker 1: on the show, I don't really think anybody could have
Speaker 1: had a good game after the way they the outcome
Speaker 1: was of this game. But there was one guy that
Speaker 1: stood out when I watched the game back, and I'm
Speaker 1: really really impressed with also Diggi Zuoa had. He didn't
Speaker 1: just flash like there were plays when he didn't actually
Speaker 1: make the play, and he still destroyed his guy like
Speaker 1: he just had at The more I watch him, the
Speaker 1: more I really really like him. My question for you guys,
Speaker 1: is is he the best interior defensive linemen that they
Speaker 1: have on this team at this point? M good question
Speaker 1: because you lean toward Neville. Gallimore hasn't played this year,
Speaker 1: only played eight games last year. I'm still not ready
Speaker 1: to say that. Ever, this disruptive No, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: I mean he's second in the league among rookies and pressures.
Speaker 1: That's they couldn't do anything with him the first few series.
Speaker 1: I feel like it kind of got away once Denver
Speaker 1: had the lead and you're not rushing the passer as much.
Speaker 1: But second in the league among rookie tackles, rookie, no pressures,
Speaker 1: just pressures any play among rookies. Because mikeuld leads the league.
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys have the top two rookies in the league.
Speaker 1: Two of the top four play for the Cowboys. Yes,
Speaker 1: uh o Way in Baltimore and I can't remember the
Speaker 1: other one right now, but two of the top four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean pressure you you know, that's that's a defensive end.
Speaker 1: That's not even a linebacker. So to have a linebacker
Speaker 1: in height. Yeah, he is consistently disruptive all year long.
Speaker 1: He has been, and that's I definitely think he deserves mentioned.
Speaker 1: That's that's a really good question because like now I'm
Speaker 1: thinking maybe not even Neville, But then you think about
Speaker 1: a guy like Brent Urban, who does not rush the
Speaker 1: passer at all, that's not his thing, but he's fantastic
Speaker 1: against the run. Hasn't been as good this year as
Speaker 1: he was last year, but just different skill sets. Um
Speaker 1: embarrass Fans will tell you he's not playing the position
Speaker 1: that they they did he played in Chicago like he
Speaker 1: was more of a defensive end, you know, and that
Speaker 1: you know in a three four scheme defensive end. This
Speaker 1: is a little bit different where he's playing closer to
Speaker 1: the ball. He's been okay, but yeah, not No, he
Speaker 1: hasn't three tackles this year. But it's hard to just say, well,
Speaker 1: that's just that he hasn't been great. I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of thinking it's it's hard for me to say a
Speaker 1: guy who's played eight career games is the best interior
Speaker 1: lineman on your team. Well, we say Mike is the
Speaker 1: best linebacker, so right, he's he's he's having a little
Speaker 1: different with the position he's I mean, yeah, because one guy,
Speaker 1: for because of the nature of the position, is going
Speaker 1: to stand out a lot more than the other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you're rotating a lot more as a defensive
Speaker 1: tackle as well. I think he's having the best season
Speaker 1: of any interior linement on this team. That's not even
Speaker 1: up for debate. I wonder if I mean, I wonder
Speaker 1: if George Edwards, either the veteran coach and coaches the linebackers,
Speaker 1: um wonder what he would say has been the best
Speaker 1: linebacker this year? Like, like, is is Layton van ersh
Speaker 1: playing you know good football? Is he's playing better than
Speaker 1: than Micah. Michael got has more stats and he's doing
Speaker 1: a lot more things. But you know, because see, I
Speaker 1: think Mica he's got five sacks. I would guess four
Speaker 1: of the five have been from the linebacker position, can you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that he rushed a lot, but
Speaker 1: I only think that one sack against the Chargers where
Speaker 1: he just exploded. And even that one, I still don't
Speaker 1: even think that was a real sack, but they gave
Speaker 1: it to him. But that's the only one I can remember,
Speaker 1: I can be it's the one that stands out to me.
Speaker 1: You're saying, we're literally he's just lining up at defensive
Speaker 1: end and he's just rushing and gets a sack. I
Speaker 1: think most of his sacks have been from this, like
Speaker 1: you know, different spots on him wherever you line him up, wherever. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to say maybe I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: want to say maybe he did it against Philly, but
Speaker 1: for the most part, it's been pursued plays as a lineback.
Speaker 1: I think Layton's playing pretty well, but not not No,
Speaker 1: it was all pros a rookie. Yeah, he came in.
Speaker 1: He was howling at the moon every single play. You now,
Speaker 1: how about them cowboys? He doesn't. He doesn't look as
Speaker 1: explosive as he used to. To me, lay there was
Speaker 1: a play he made the play, So I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to trash talking, but there was a play out in
Speaker 1: the flat this past week where he knifed out into
Speaker 1: the flat. Guy had the ball and the back or
Speaker 1: the receiver cut it back in and Layton kind of
Speaker 1: dove back. It looked like it was going to be
Speaker 1: a broken arm tackle, but he did enough to trip
Speaker 1: him up and so he made the tackle. But in
Speaker 1: my head, I was like, two or three years ago,
Speaker 1: he would have just knifed in and destroyed that guy.
Speaker 1: He would have. It wouldn't have even been a doubt
Speaker 1: that he was going to get him down, And it
Speaker 1: felt lucky that he pulled it off in this particular instance.
Speaker 1: He's happy he's playing through the season without an injury.
Speaker 1: That's what I was about to say. Do you think
Speaker 1: he's playing slower? Than usual, or maybe not not not slower,
Speaker 1: but like you know, not as quick to the ball
Speaker 1: because he has been injured or because he has been healthy.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, if you're healthy, you're kind of honestly,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't want to play as recklessly because you're
Speaker 1: trying to preserve yourself. I don't know if it's either
Speaker 1: one track year for him. Layton doesn't. He doesn't strike
Speaker 1: me as that kind of guy though, Like he's so intense.
Speaker 1: If he heard that, he would probably come in he
Speaker 1: would be pissed. Yeah, he has pissed it every time
Speaker 1: I ask a question. Every time I ask him a question, question,
Speaker 1: it might be. It might be and I and I
Speaker 1: of you a lot of guys, especially after the game.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I don't know what it is. Layton
Speaker 1: is not happy with any of the questions I ask.
Speaker 1: Maybe it could be I think even it's I just
Speaker 1: think that's his demeanor. And you think, you think about
Speaker 1: where his career is gone, Like he got about as
Speaker 1: high as you can and that's We talked a lot
Speaker 1: about his conversation with Micah at the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: game that Hard Knocks picked up. He was I think
Speaker 1: he was kind of chuckling at Mica. He was like, Buddy,
Speaker 1: I've been there where you're the talk of the town
Speaker 1: right away, and you just just be prepared. And Mica
Speaker 1: hasn't had that downturn yet, maybe he never will, but
Speaker 1: the ebbs and flows of playing in this league come,
Speaker 1: and I just think Layton realizes that. And I I
Speaker 1: doubt he's unhappy with your questions so much as like
Speaker 1: he does not like the media. No, he doesn't like us.
Speaker 1: I think that happens. I think as you go to
Speaker 1: that top and then you just get just kind of
Speaker 1: destroyed after that, I think it hardens guys. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why yesterday we ran into into
Speaker 1: Sean Lee in the hall talking to him, and it's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I like Sean so much
Speaker 1: is because he would have gotten very hardened because obviously
Speaker 1: there was always to talk, Oh, he's injury prone, he's
Speaker 1: injury problem. Sean was just like, look, yeah, I've had injuries,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, like I'm trying not to, but
Speaker 1: I've got Even when Sean was in the thick of it,
Speaker 1: he was never like a jerk, but you had your
Speaker 1: own back and forth with him in that regard. Like
Speaker 1: we always used to joke, Sean only wanted to talk
Speaker 1: on Friday and only after he was done with everything
Speaker 1: he had to do, so he'd come in like thirty
Speaker 1: seconds before the locker room closed and oh shucks, guys,
Speaker 1: I just missed you for that. By the way, that
Speaker 1: is just kind of like I'm gonna game them the
Speaker 1: way they gave me. But he wasn't a butthole about it.
Speaker 1: He was he was still like he would still have
Speaker 1: the conversation with especially feels off the record and he
Speaker 1: caught him. You could have a conversation in his final
Speaker 1: speed in his final like you know, when he made
Speaker 1: his quote at the end of the season or when
Speaker 1: he retired. You know, he gave his statement. I mean
Speaker 1: even had some jokes in there. He was just like
Speaker 1: and of course the training staff. I mean, I, you know,
Speaker 1: my best friends because I was there all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, he could have gotten he could have been
Speaker 1: one of those guys that was really really mad with
Speaker 1: the media, and I don't think that was the case.
Speaker 1: And I can tell while he's here. Sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I assume just to visit this some people, I guess
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess that's a good question. He
Speaker 1: came to see the Broncos game former former players just
Speaker 1: kind of in the building. Man, he was on he
Speaker 1: was on the show the other day, was on one
Speaker 1: of those other shows. Yeah, was that hanging not Players Players.
Speaker 1: He's good friends with Barry Church. Well, we did kind
Speaker 1: of mention that, like, man, uh, you know, you go
Speaker 1: do that show and don't come to our show. Amber
Speaker 1: would really like you to come do this show. He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: if I see him, I'm definitely asking for a photo.
Speaker 1: I never done this. Back back to Layton real quick.
Speaker 1: I laughed because Layton was with us this week. He
Speaker 1: came out and talked away from you, and like in
Speaker 1: the more group setting, we're not gonna go as far
Speaker 1: as he was. He's still he's always gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of gruffing and tense, but like he was very thoughtful
Speaker 1: and to be that way, if you're gonna like hunt
Speaker 1: a wolf, true, you're right, that's a good point, but like, okay,
Speaker 1: he was almost like necessary. He was as eager to
Speaker 1: talk as I've ever seen him, which isn't to say
Speaker 1: that he was eating. But and then you know, he
Speaker 1: gave a lot of quotes about I think we needed this,
Speaker 1: I think this can be good in the long run,
Speaker 1: and I was. I was kind of surprised because when
Speaker 1: I heard he was on our list. You do this
Speaker 1: stuff mentally where you're like, oh boy, here we go
Speaker 1: Layton vander esh after a loss, this will be fun.
Speaker 1: But I was pleasantly surprised by how engaging he was.
Speaker 1: I do that when I when I get the list
Speaker 1: of who I'm going to talk to, and it's like
Speaker 1: it was like Lyle Collins, Terrence Steele, and then it
Speaker 1: was literally when I got the list, it was like
Speaker 1: holding seventy eight, holding seventy one. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is awesome. Great, they're going to be in a great
Speaker 1: mood going back to Land. When you mentioned his name
Speaker 1: and asked the question, immediately in my head, before you
Speaker 1: even made that point, I thought, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just glad he's playing, Like I'm glad he's out on
Speaker 1: the field. But then I call myself like, no, screw that, No,
Speaker 1: this is a young guy. He barely how many years
Speaker 1: three has it been? This is fourth year already, but
Speaker 1: he's still fairly young. We have not really squeezed them
Speaker 1: out you know, we have not gotten enough juice from him.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, no, no, he should be playing at
Speaker 1: a higher level than what he has been giving you
Speaker 1: this year. To me, he tends to become a little
Speaker 1: forgettable this year when I watched the Cowboys play as
Speaker 1: opposed to previous year, where you even I mean he's
Speaker 1: been hurt here and there, but even with that injuries,
Speaker 1: and then when he comes back, you know, oh there's Layton.
Speaker 1: You see him, and I don't know if maybe that's
Speaker 1: the contract contrast against a guy like Jalen playing with him,
Speaker 1: that maybe he stood out more. But I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think that that he's just not playing at the
Speaker 1: same level. Actually, I actually think lay Nissalid this year.
Speaker 1: I don't think Layton has been a bad player this year.
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it's obviously the year he
Speaker 1: was an All Pro. Yeah, but I think he's been solid.
Speaker 1: I think he's been solid on this team. I think
Speaker 1: he fills the role for them, he plays the role nicely.
Speaker 1: I think he's the second best linebacker on this team.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, maybe that's not what you
Speaker 1: want in your contract year. Maybe you want a little
Speaker 1: bit more a few more splash plays, but I think
Speaker 1: he's been solid, and that actually may end up working
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys because if they want to keep him,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they do. If they want to
Speaker 1: keep him, it may make it make it very financially
Speaker 1: feasible to keep him if he's just a solid linebacker.
Speaker 1: I just think about all of the other decisions they
Speaker 1: have to make, and that one is further down the
Speaker 1: list than a few of them. True though, because if
Speaker 1: you don't sign him, then who's playing linebacker for you
Speaker 1: next year? That's it's low key devastating. Might be an exaggeration,
Speaker 1: but it's low key a big deal that your brial
Speaker 1: Cox got hurt because in a perfect world, you groom
Speaker 1: him as the season goes along, and Layton vander Esh
Speaker 1: gets paid too much and you say, all right, like
Speaker 1: we'll sign somebody or draft somebody. But the ideas that
Speaker 1: you and Mica can be are nickel linebackers moving forward
Speaker 1: like that is the hope, and it still could be.
Speaker 1: It's just a roadblock for him that it's gonna have
Speaker 1: to come after a rehab. Keano Neil thing hasn't really
Speaker 1: developed like you thought, and so I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: if you don't sign him um in March, then you
Speaker 1: get into the draft and you're you're thinking, probably have
Speaker 1: to here here we go again. You probably could draft
Speaker 1: another linebacker pretty high. Well, I think this too. I
Speaker 1: think that what are they gonna do with jay Ron Curse?
Speaker 1: Because that also affects in a little bit. He's been
Speaker 1: down there a lot in the box. There's just a
Speaker 1: lot of questions in regard to Yeah, but there there's
Speaker 1: just a lot of questions with regards to what they're
Speaker 1: doing linebacker and some of those big that that big
Speaker 1: safety and that all they all play together. It all
Speaker 1: will be a part of the calculations, accordinator back. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the question you have to ask, too, big part
Speaker 1: of the decision. All Right, we appreciate you guys, join us.
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