WEBVTT - Oh How The Mighty Have Fallen? 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:06.160 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:09.920 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:11.320 Armstrong and Jetty. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:12.520 I know he. 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:17.239 Armstrong and Jetty. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:27.240 And if these gorgeous be too bombers, give me that bomber, Andrews, 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:28.200 let me just hug. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.080 That little sucker. Give me that bomber over there? Thank 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.080 You know immediately which one? This looks small, but in 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:35.200 person is very big. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.320 It's the only plane capable of carrying a two hundred 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.239 thousand pound bombs. So I don't know how to do 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.760 it because it's very sleek and nice, but it carries 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.000 a lot of weapons and there's a lot of bombs. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.640 That's Trump grabbing the model of the B two bomber 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:50.239 off of his desk. 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:51.920 Guy, let me hug that little sucker. 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.560 Carries a lot of weapons, a lot of bombs. Wow, 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:57.520 what an odd bird. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.960 We do have a slight breaking news thing. The big 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:04.560 gas field in the world in Saudi Arabia has been 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.200 hit and a number of strikes by Iran and now 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:10.839 your oil gas markets are spiking. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.000 We'll see where that goes today. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.880 Boy, wow, they're in a hole and they are digging 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.960 as fast as they can, just trying to make everybody 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.920 as angry as possible, thinking we'll all think back off 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.600 at some point exactly. Oh, they're causing too much pain. 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.759 We've got to stop and let this regime continue. That's 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.920 the hell of a calculation. I suppose they think that's 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.840 the only car they have to play. So a bit 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.840 of a theme hour this hour. It's come together kind 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.559 of accidentally, but it's all super interesting in my opinion. It's, Oh, 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.920 how the mighty have fallen. We're going to take a 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.640 look at some very prominent characters, from Saisar Chavez to 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:52.280 economist rock star of the left Paul Erlik who wrote 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.800 the Population Bomb book, and also some of the most 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.640 interesting information I've come across about Jeffrey Epstein, if you 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.880 really want to understand how he and his cabal of 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:10.480 high flyers worked coming up this hour to stay with us. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.920 But let's start with the Jack and Seesar Chavez. 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.799 Here to Caesar Chavez, he was the brown Martin Luther King, 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.880 as described by people, civil rights leader for migrant farm 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.799 workers back in the day, and organized them and got 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.200 some rights and all that sort of stuff and became 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.359 a is a it's not a national holiday, right, so 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.800 holiday in California, and yeah, right. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.520 But he won all sorts of you know, this guy's 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.000 a superhero awards through. 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.320 The years from Fariou press O ye, And as they 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:42.040 write in the California Post, every progressive history curriculum, every 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:46.160 California street sign, every March thirty first is proof that 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:50.680 here was a flawless champion of the oppressed. Schools were renamed, statues, erected, 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:55.040 documentaries produced with soft lighting and swelling violins. Well, now 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:56.680 he's going to be canceled because it turns out he 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.399 was raping a thirteen year old at least one, if 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.200 not many young women, which is pretty horrible. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:07.440 Yeah, sexually molesting multiple girls and raping grown women. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:10.600 We got this text. 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.880 My friend at work was a migrant farm worker her 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.240 first twenty five years of life, and she told me 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.960 there was definitely a culture of taking young women and 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.200 no one really did anything about it. I have no 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:22.880 way to confirm whether that was true or not, but 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.440 it seems to have been true for Caesar Shaves himself. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.480 Whether that was true for other men of power in 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.680 the whole migrant farm worker world, I do not know. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:34.880 Maybe we'll learn that over the next couple of weeks. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:36.080 I suspect. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.840 So why did the I hate to call it the wokesters, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.960 because I mean, we're all against raping children. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.080 You don't have to be woke to be against raping children. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.960 But why did this come out now? And the New 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.080 York Times is leading the way on this story? Is 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.720 it his anti immigration stances which would become more problematic 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.440 for Caesar Shabz. Critics who noted Caesar shab Is anti 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.040 immigration stances way back in the nineteen seventies were dismissed 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.640 as right wing cranks. The narrative was simple, flawless labor 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:11.240 saint versus evil growers. Yet Chavez was no open borders 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.800 progressive at any point. He was a staunch opponent of 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:18.360 illegal immigration, viewed undocumented workers as strike bears imported by 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.800 growers to undercut wages and bust unions. He used the 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:28.839 term wetbacks freely to comment on Mexicans who swam across 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.760 the river and came here and took their jobs. He's 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.040 the guy that got wet back going as a slur. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:38.520 The United farm Workers blocked border crossing, brought border crossings, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:44.200 border crossings, physically would fight illegals coming across the border 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.159 to scare them off of trying to get in. Reported 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:52.080 thousands of undocumented workers to the federal government to I ins, 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.640 Oh my god, I live in a town where they 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.440 have written in chalk on every intersection the phone number 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.159 to call if you see any ICE agents, because how 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.080 dare you ice out? 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.719 How dare you turn in an illegal to ice? 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.680 Caesar Shapez was doing that constantly, thousands of thousand on 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:13.359 his own. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.200 He was like an amateur ice agent. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.240 Yeah. Yeah. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.320 Chavez saw unchecked illegal immigration as a direct threat to jobs, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.440 bargaining power, and living standards for domestic farm workers. You know, hey, 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.680 I thought that because it's one hundred percent true. Obviously, 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:33.719 you think you're helping the downtrodden uh migrant farm worker 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.919 by letting more illegals in. How do you come to 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:36.680 that conclusion? 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:37.120 Anyway? 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.280 I just wonder if maybe that was becoming so uncomfortable 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.680 that people decided to go after him on this stuff 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.760 that had to be known by quite a few people, 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.240 I would think, But I could be wrong. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.039 I'm trying to The New York Times isn't explicit in 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:59.039 their piece about chef the accusers and Chevez about why 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.960 they've come forward now. They suggest one of them was 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.560 just pissed off that Bakersfield was about to name a 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.520 street after the guy right down the road from where 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:08.680 she lived. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.279 That could be Kavanaugh's accuser. Even though she was a 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.960 complete crazy person, she believed her own story. Even if 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.440 she's crazy. You know, when Kavanaugh came up to be 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.920 Supreme Court justice, then she thought that's too much. Maybe 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.919 this person was the same way, just like, Okay, I 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.960 can't I can't have to drive down a street name 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.920 for the guy that raped me when I was thirteen. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:30.200 Right right? 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.440 Yeah? Yeah? 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.680 And that question remains, are they gonna take it? They're 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.760 going to cancel the holiday in California? It looks like 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.680 Caesar Shabaz Day. Are they gonna take his name off 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.720 middle schools and roads and everything else? 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.080 There's got to be statues all over the place. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:50.799 Yeah yeah, So wow, are they desanctifying this guy because 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.000 of the immigration stuff? 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:52.160 For it? 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.560 Did these women just come forward and it's what it 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:55.880 appears to be on the surface. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:56.360 I don't know. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.719 Raping a thirteen year old is really awful, but he 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.159 still did all the things he did and That's where 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.440 I wonder about where we go historically on this. We 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.480 had a Gandhi statue in the park in the town 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.880 I live in for a while. Then somebody decided no, 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:11.760 Gandhi was wrong on these things. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:17.080 Jack lives in Mumbai, by the way, I kidd. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.360 And somebody decided to know he was bad on these areas, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.320 so they took the Gandhi statue down. I mean, so, 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.080 is there gonna be an anybody left that accomplished great 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.760 things but had a I'm not gonna say sordid, because 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.240 you don't have a sordid personnel life if you're raping 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.880 thirteen year olds, but an awful personal life. I just 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:38.240 I don't know how we handle this historically. 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.880 Oddly enough, the reference to India is a good time 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.920 to move on to Paul Rlick, author of The Population Bomb, 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.880 hero of the left for many years, always wrong, and 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.080 yet his policies endured. He was more than wrong. He 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.080 was a monster. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:56.920 He was a. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:57.720 Terrible human being. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:06.640 And we'll explain why after the So stay with us. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.120 Whether you're stuck at an airport or sweltering in the 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.720 heat or stuck in a blizzard, depending on where you 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.240 are in the country. I hope you're enjoying today's episode 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:16.520 of The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:21.640 You're almost certainly not starving, though. And Paul Rlick, who 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:25.360 just passed away, was the author of a nineteen sixty 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.360 eight book, The Population Bomb. To call it a sensation 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:33.320 is to understate it. To buy a thousand times he 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.400 was a rock star. He is on The Tonight Show 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:41.439 with Johnny Carson twenty times. He was interestingly a butterfly 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:46.880 biologist turned rock star eco pessimist. According to Matt Ridley, 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:53.599 nice piece of writing there, he essentially predicted mass starvation, 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.760 well read part of it. In nineteen sixty eighty forecast 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.440 that within the coming decade at least one hundred to 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.440 two hundred million people per year will be starving to death. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:08.120 So by seventy eight or in the seventies, he probably 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.320 only in the seventies. So in the seventies hundreds of 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.440 millions of people were going to starve death because of 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:14.600 the population being so. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.680 Big, and by nineteen eighty five enough millions will have 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.240 died to reduce the Earth's population some acceptable level, like 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.360 one and a half billion people. Further More, he warned 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.760 that by nineteen eighty the life expectancy of the average 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.720 American would have fallen to forty two years as the 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.080 result of cancer caused by pesticides. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.680 Wow. Yeah, And. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.200 When he died, most people said, you know, he's wrong 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.480 about that. The New York Times charmingly said, he was 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:50.520 premature in his prediction, but he was so incredibly farcically wrong. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.800 The reasons why you're interesting. And also the guy was 0:09:53.840 --> 0:10:00.000 a freaking monster. I will illustrate, quoting again from mister Ridley. 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.040 Meanwhile, oh uh. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.640 Oh, they mentioned the irony that he survived a half 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.360 century longer than the life expectancy he predicted. Also spent 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.640 his last years as one of more than eight billion 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.439 people in an era in which global life expectancy has 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:23.079 increased by more than seven hours day seven hours a 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.440 day since he forecast that it would collapse. Meanwhile, famine 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.880 has gone all but gone extinct, with death rates from 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.120 mass starvation down to a tiny fraction of what they 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.920 were in the sixties. Back then, about thirty million people 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.000 out of a population of approximately three billion died in 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.440 famines that killed more than one hundred thousand people each. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.200 In the twenty tens, one point one million, not thirty 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.880 million one point one million out of population of more 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.920 than eight billion died in such episodes, a decline of 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:54.960 more than ninety six percent in the death rate. He 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.960 shot to fame in nineteen sixty eight with the population bomb, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.079 the prologue of which is dismissed. All hope for humankind 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.040 and I quote the battle defeat all of humanity is over. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:05.480 In the nineteen seventies. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.520 Hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.520 spite of any crash programs embarked upon now and at 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.240 this late date, nothing can prevent a substantial increase in 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.679 the world death rate. Yet something did prevent that. Even 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.960 as Erlik wrote those words, the world's population great was 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.679 I'm sorry, the world's population growth rate was falling. New 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.640 strains of wheat and rice developed by agronomus, he mentions, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.199 a famous agronomists, were starting to transform the. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:30.600 Productivity of agriculture. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.040 India was on its way to banishing famine and becoming 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.840 a food exporter within a few years. The amount of 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.920 food available has increased faster than the population on every 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.439 continent on Earth over the past sixty years, even as 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.600 the land area devoted to farming has fallen, as often 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.880 so often happens with environmental pessimism. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.360 Irlik's warning was already out of. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.640 Date when it was made, but he stubbornly stuck to 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.960 his views. In eight he was still predicting an unhappy 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.599 increase in the death rate. In twenty twenty three, he 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.559 posted plaintively, if I'm always wrong, so is science, since 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.520 my work is peer reviewed, including the population bomb. And 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.080 I've gotten virtually every scientific honor. Sure I've made mistakes, 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:16.600 but no basic ones. All right, here's where he becomes 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:21.319 a monster. And he did win the MacArthur Fellowship, the 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.920 Genius Grant, a fellowship with London's Royal Society in twenty twelve, 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.679 even though he'd said in nineteen seventy one, if I 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.040 were a gambler, I'd take even money that England will 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.400 not exist in the year two thousand. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:36.520 So his book it. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.040 Reminds me of the because I'm known artists. Did he 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.080 think it would be underwater? He doesn't explain that. No, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.280 I don't know. I don't have the context of that claim. 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.720 But his book begins with an evening in Delhi, India, 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.560 when he found the press of people overwhelming quote people 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.560 eating people washing, people, sleeping, people visiting, arguing and screaming, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.960 people thrusting their hands through the taxi window, begging, people 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:02.599 defecating and urinating. 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:04.920 You presuming means. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.319 Like in public, because they're doing that everywhere. Paul, anyway, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:13.640 I planned you today, I'm happy for you. The answer 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.680 to his culture shock, he argued, was coerced compulsory population control. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:19.240 Quote. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.600 The operation will demand many, apparently brutal and heartless decisions. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:28.840 The pain may be intense. He was calling for forced sterilizations, 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.760 including in Indian all men who had three or more children. 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:37.000 Coercion and a good cause. He was astounded that libertarians 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.120 objected when the American government took up his suggestion. In 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.920 nineteen seventy five, Indian Prime Minister and Dera Gandhi was 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.640 threatened with the loss of World Bank loans unless she 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.720 began forcibly sterilizing people. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.800 Wow, I do not see this. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.280 She obliged, and her son Sanjay carried out a program 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:58.200 making permits, licenses, rations, and even housing applications conditional on sterilization. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.000 Over eight million people people were sterilized. 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.360 I had no idea that the. 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.199 Irony is that one of the greatest causes of the 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.079 falling birth rate in the world over the past half 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.760 century has been kindness, not cruelty, in the form of 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.560 child mortality prevention. As poor nations become wealthier in quality 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.840 medical care for infants, spread birth rates declined across the 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.320 world without the aid of coercion. When mothers are confident 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.840 that their children will survive, they plan for smaller families. 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.360 There are a number of factors at work, though. 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.000 Now countries all around the world are trying to figure 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.840 out how much money do we have to give a 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.280 woman to get her to have a baby. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:38.239 Yeah, no kidding, Oh for Americans too. Erlich recommended coercion 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.760 and control for American citizens. In a nineteen seventy interview, 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.440 he said that television programs should be ordered by the 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:48.720 federal government to always show large families in a negative light. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.440 I remember that. Yeah, how crazy is that he was 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:57.320 going to have? This goes beyond anything you've ever heard 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.320 about the First Amendment in terms of trashing it. You're 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:04.520 gonna make the government force entertainment to show big families 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:05.840 in a negative light. 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:11.800 Commercials should relentlessly shame such people. If that did not work, 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.560 the government should give women quote bonuses for not having babies, 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.880 or change the tax structure to punish the fertile, and 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:24.000 if necessary, start legislating the size of the family and 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.480 throw you in jail if you have too many children. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.320 Those are quotes. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.920 Yeah, he has a nut, and he set the tone 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.320 for the nascent environmental movement, which saw people as a problem, 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:42.120 economic growth as a crime, and coercion as necessary. The 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.160 carrots of incentives are not enough, the sticks of punishment 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.000 and regulation are necessary. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.720 Well, the last guy was an effing monster. Pardon me. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.440 A lot of you listening are probably too young to 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.920 have lived through this, but Joe and I being in 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.920 the winter of our lives, remember this was a constant 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.760 conversation topic about the population of the earth, you know, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.920 becoming unsustainable and it's inevitable. It's just what are we 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.360 gonna do about it? I mean, his book had an 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.320 incredible influence, and now we look back on it, it 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:18.000 seems almost hilarious in that the biggest problem we might 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.280 have his man kind of as disappearing because we don't 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.080 have kids. The climate change thing is gonna be the same. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.160 I think look back on a decade years from now, 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.680 maybe like two years from now, and just It's just 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.320 gonna seem hilarious that anybody was ever worried about this. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.360 The difference out though, is that so many people have 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.600 profited so mightily from this. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:39.800 Yeah, that's true. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.320 I mean there are a lot of true believers, but 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.200 there are a lot of cynics who are like, oh 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.840 my god, we frightened the populace to the point that 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:51.840 they'll authorize any expenditure if we can even implausibly claim 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.080 it'll help with climate change. We can hand out billions 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.440 of dollars to our cronies, and at least half of America, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.240 for instance, will thank us for it. Yeah, oh my god. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.080 I wish I'd gotten in on the scam. It's to 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:04.879 my discredit. 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:05.320 I didn't. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.359 Nobody was building giant windmill farms to cut the population 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.800 and making money off of it. We got a lot 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.040 more on the way. I hope we can stay here. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:16.800 Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.520 Did a nurse quake just come through our whole house shook. 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.520 And we thought that something hit like the roof of 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:28.400 the grocery store. 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:30.560 It was just a really loud bang. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.959 And I just hear a giant thud, and then it 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.480 persisted for like ten seconds and I'm just sitting there, like, 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:36.680 is this the end times? 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.720 It sounded like a bowling ball dropped on the floor 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:40.119 above me. 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.600 It was pretty lord, that's people that were it was 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.800 at in Ohio someplace at the media actually hit. But 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:50.480 so the meteor was streaking across half the country and 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.879 I've seen so many videos now people catching them with 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.040 their ring cameras, are had their cell phone out. 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:55.840 Or whatever the heck. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:01.240 And absolutely my first thought would have been we're under attack. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.600 I mean it was that big and bright and low. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.400 I wouldn't have thought meteor. I would have thought ballistic 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.800 missile from somebody. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.560 Yeah, I'm not. 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.080 Sure I could have gotten past mind just animal because 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.119 it last year like that long, and unless you're in Ohio, 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.240 it just disappeared from the sky. 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.360 I think I would have just been caveman. 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:21.840 Bad. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:26.240 Bad is big, bright and low though, like nothing you've 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.240 ever seen before, if you've seen any of these videos. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.320 AnyWho, Uh, interesting, what do we have coming up? 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.480 So glad, I'm glad we live in a country where 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.639 that's not really possible, as opposed to many many countries 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:37.000 where it. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.919 Is possible and actually happening. 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.800 As we certainly unlikely anyway, coming. 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.680 Up Cuba, Like we need more on our world plate 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:47.639 of interesting things. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:52.480 Cuba's about to fall more on that in a second. Wow, Okay, 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.760 we're assassinating character? Is this hour? 0:18:58.080 --> 0:18:58.440 Not? Really? 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.280 We're just telling the truth about prominent people, including in 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:05.760 this case, Jeffrey Epstein. And it's funny we're talking about 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:10.320 Sazar Chavez, who is almost certainly guilty of raping children, 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.000 forcing himself upon them, raping an adult woman. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.240 That's not us right wing radio talk show host. That's 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.600 the New York Times saying that, yeah, straight from his 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:18.320 victim's mouths. 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.560 Yeah, and it seems to be very very well corroborated 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.840 in the park street to school near you will soon 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.720 be renamed anyway, certainly if you're in California. 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.480 The stuff on Epstein is interesting. 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.879 Ah. I think a lot of people, for whatever reason, 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:39.160 are so obsessed with the sexual angle of his hyjens 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.840 And certainly he did manipulate and victimize young women, both 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:47.640 underage and just young women, girls and women. But they're 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.720 so obsessed with the sexual stuff, I think they're missing 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:51.720 an even more interesting. 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:53.480 Story. 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.199 And I'm not necessarily even talking about the obsessed you know, 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:03.080 QAnon Pizza Gate, crazy crazy stuff who just you know, 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:03.800 we've talked. 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:05.399 About why they're compelled to believe that sort. 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.320 Of thing anyway, But the Wall Street Journal has a 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:14.560 super interesting piece and we've today about the network of 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:20.560 insider stock trading that he and his connections engaged in. 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.760 Because this guy, I believe in the same way that 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:30.480 I understand that Hitler was a master of populist politics. 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:32.480 I mean, he's one of the best of the world 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:36.560 has ever seen. And you can still understand that he's evil, 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:38.800 completely evil, completely corrupt and evil. 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.439 Epstein was a rock star of networking. 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.159 He was an incredibly gifted networker, and I've heard that 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.159 said by all sorts of people from all sorts of 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:53.640 different worlds, from science to academia to business to politics. 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.800 He knew what everybody's levers were and not like threatening 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:03.600 them in blackmailing them, flattering them, investing in them, giving 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.320 them tips, connecting them with like other people who could 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:11.520