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Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. We actually have some baseball

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Speaker 1: things to talk about today, so excited. We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll talk about the bullpen at some point again,

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Speaker 1: because your guys comments were super funny and we have

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Speaker 1: even more to talk about now that we have some

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Speaker 1: more projection systems out and we saw your comments. We

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Speaker 1: want to respond to a few of them. But we've

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Speaker 1: got Andy Martino dropping a bit of a bit of

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Speaker 1: a nuke on the Mets world today with a vlad

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Speaker 1: Guerrero Junior rumor that the Mets have checked in on

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Speaker 1: Vladdie Junior, which is awesome. We know we're not getting

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Speaker 1: Roki Sasaki. He picked his final three teams, the Mets

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Speaker 1: are not one of them. Ellie and Paina is the Mets'

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Speaker 1: highest paid international free agent ever. They just signed him

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Speaker 1: to a five million dollar deal. So we're gonna break

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Speaker 1: down what we know about Ellie and Payne as much

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Speaker 1: as you can for a seventeen year old who's ever

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Speaker 1: played professional baseball as at any level whatsoever. And then

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Speaker 1: just a little bit more Pete Alonzo talk is well

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Speaker 1: because John Hayman and Joel Sherman dropped an article as well,

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Speaker 1: talking about the Mets and Pede Alonzo. There's weirdly a

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about. That's why you guys are here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for stopping in with us. Make

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Speaker 1: met stuff, I don't. I don't think we can shout

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Speaker 1: out TikTok anymore. It's like probably gone by Monday.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, no worries, a good and good rhydance.

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Speaker 2: I guess the TikTok we'll.

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Speaker 1: See you later. Whatever did. We didn't really use it

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Speaker 1: that much anyway, So for met stuff, it really didn't

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Speaker 1: serve much purpose. But the other ones you should follow

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Speaker 1: us now. I feel like we should start with Vlad

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Speaker 1: Junior because I think that's the topic that everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to go over. When I saw it, I think me

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Speaker 1: and you we texted as soon as the rumor came out,

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Speaker 1: we both had similar opinions of I don't think this

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Speaker 1: that they were in this case where there's smoke, there's fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a line between how real

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Speaker 2: this should be perceived and I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: I tweeted this verbatim that it's probably not super realistic

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Speaker 2: themes trade for la Guerrero Junior right now, while also

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Speaker 2: they're definitely checking in because they want him on this team.

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Speaker 2: If it's not this year, it's next year, and all

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Speaker 2: while that's happening, they certainly want to put pressure on

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Speaker 2: because it coincide with the rumor that came out later

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Speaker 2: days after Piolonzo allegedly came to the Mets with an

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Speaker 2: But while all that is true, and I think the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've talked about it on the podcast before.

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Speaker 1: And then the trade for Andres Jiminez and took his

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Speaker 2: Like yes, well, because that's another part of it too,

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Speaker 2: like I think, maybe, yeah, they want to accelerate the rebuild.

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Speaker 1: No, I totally agree. I think it would be really

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Speaker 2: And think about this for a hot second, Like you

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Speaker 1: How fucking awesome is it that? Like this is these

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Speaker 2: could possibly be time to cash in. And again, like

432
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Speaker 2: in a perfect world, and a lot of people said

433
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Speaker 2: this to us on Twitter, Yeah, I'd rather get Vlaimir

434
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Speaker 2: Graam Junior just for money, not spend the prospect captural

435
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Speaker 2: be able to keep the prospects to get him next year.

436
00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,879
Speaker 2: But there's a gaping hole in this Mets team right

437
00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,720
Speaker 2: now first base and a lot of this self of

438
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Speaker 2: pee A Lonzo's it just doesn't I still things are

439
00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,200
Speaker 2: better than fifty percent chance he's back on this team,

440
00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,560
Speaker 2: but it's not a sure thing at all. And you

441
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,560
Speaker 2: have a gaping hole first base or third base, depending

442
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Speaker 2: on where Mark Vanas is next year. And this is

443
00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,200
Speaker 2: the best way in all baseball to fill that hole.

444
00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,720
Speaker 2: And when you have Vlaimir Greer Junior, I mean, and

445
00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,240
Speaker 2: when you have won so Tho in his prime and

446
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,560
Speaker 2: Faisisco Indor who's over thirty years old but was still

447
00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,280
Speaker 2: in his prime, every year is valuable. It's hard to

448
00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,879
Speaker 2: worry about wasting a year of those guys prime together

449
00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,920
Speaker 2: because I want to hold on some prospects. I want

450
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Speaker 2: to hold onto the prospects, of course, But we're gonna

451
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,479
Speaker 2: talk about a little bit later the Elie on pay

452
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,320
Speaker 2: and you have to think about prospects just in general.

453
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Speaker 2: At some point, if you can get the dog like,

454
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 2: you go and get the dog like. And it's funny

455
00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,080
Speaker 2: right now, a Yankee fan winning give you this answer.

456
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Speaker 2: But if we get a few years down the line,

457
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Speaker 2: I think they would still tell you almost undoubtedly the ones.

458
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Speaker 1: So the trade was worth it. Yeah, of course World

459
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Speaker 1: Series run you got, you got three wins away from

460
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Speaker 1: winning it all.

461
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,280
Speaker 2: It's always worth it, totally hundred percent. Again, I don't

462
00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:32,840
Speaker 2: think they'll tell you that.

463
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Speaker 1: Now. Every Mets fan's probably laughing because you know we

464
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Speaker 1: got them, they give up them, of course.

465
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's even better if you can just trade

466
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Speaker 2: one of Sprout or Jet and then probably two more

467
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Speaker 2: pieces lower down, maybe one more exciting guy and then maybe.

468
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Speaker 1: Like that's Tongue or McLean, that could be one of

469
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Speaker 1: those guys maybe, or maybe even Clifford.

470
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Speaker 2: Cliffor's probably lowered because something like Jet McLean.

471
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Speaker 1: Bias might be hefty.

472
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Speaker 2: Maybe get back a picture, But I think that's like

473
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Speaker 2: you give up, you give up three top like one

474
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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty is.

475
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Speaker 1: Prospects in baseball.

476
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Speaker 2: Maybe you get like a Barrios or a or a

477
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Speaker 2: Bassett back, or even the one year a Gosman, two

478
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 2: years of Goasman back. Suddenly you're you're you're cooking with gas.

479
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 1: And we know the Mets got money there got less

480
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 1: money they've spent this year than they did last year,

481
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Speaker 1: So there's definitely some room there now. Just to briefly

482
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Speaker 1: group glaze over this a little bit. In our international

483
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 1: free agent pool prospect portion, we're not getting. Roki Sasaki

484
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 1: came out that he has his top three teams. It's

485
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Speaker 1: the Padres, the Dodgers, and the Blue Jays. I don't

486
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,400
Speaker 1: think the Blue Jays are getting them. I think it's

487
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers until it's not the Dodgers, I don't think

488
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Speaker 1: it is and anyone else. Yeah, I'd say it's ninety

489
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Speaker 1: ten Dodgers Padres.

490
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Speaker 2: The Dodgers said they had their other meeting with him

491
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Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, and they said the stars

492
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 2: were there. So I'm sure Tani like clinked his ring

493
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Speaker 2: on the table. Pat pat Riley style was like, you

494
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 2: want to get another one of these.

495
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Speaker 1: Yoshinobu Yamamoto, I'm sure was part of it. I'm sure

496
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Speaker 1: he's a star as well for him.

497
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Speaker 2: I don't know again, like whatever, whatever Roki Saki thinks

498
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 2: it's best for him, not gonna chastise it him. Definitely,

499
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Speaker 2: what suck the Dodgers get a free superstar If the

500
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 2: Dodgers just get like one of the top three overall

501
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 2: prospects in baseball for free, Like that would definitely suck.

502
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a prospect as a professional

503
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 2: baseball player, but he would be better at everyone who's

504
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 2: gonna play baseball this year that's not debuted yet, Like

505
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 2: it's just it's superstar shit.

506
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Speaker 1: It's just it would suck. But you, I don't know,

507
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: it should be better next CBA. Do you think there's

508
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Speaker 1: a chance, because it's been floated before about an international

509
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 1: prospect pool draft, because I think things like this, especially

510
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: with now the influx of more Asian players coming over

511
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 1: in the last few years and seemingly only picking the Dodgers,

512
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 1: it seems like we might be headed towards that just

513
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: because not even like to complain as a Mets fan

514
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 1: or even if you're a Yankees fan or a Red

515
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 1: Sox fan, but like the Kansas City Royal should simply

516
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 1: never have a shot to get in it like one

517
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Speaker 1: of these guys.

518
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 2: Ever, well, I think Major League Baseball try to circumvent

519
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 2: this by giving the teams we're in the bottom of

520
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 2: fifteen and like revenue or the fifteen small market teams

521
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 2: with the fifteen big market teams more international bonus money

522
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Speaker 2: every year and extra compensatory draft picks. Like we've talked

523
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 2: about it before, the teams who are poorer. I'm doing

524
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Speaker 2: air quotes right now with people in the audience because

525
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 2: all these owners are very, very wealthy, they give them

526
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: more money to spend internationally every single.

527
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Speaker 1: Yoah wait, interesting, I just weird thing I've thought about too,

528
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Speaker 1: Like when you think about a lot of the teams

529
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Speaker 1: in the middle too, not as many, or the smaller

530
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Speaker 1: market teams, not as many Latin American players. It feels

531
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Speaker 1: like as there are on the teams that have the

532
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Speaker 1: more money side, even though we know the Latin players

533
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Speaker 1: end up costing less when they have free agency as

534
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 1: opposed to the American players. What an interesting thought that

535
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Speaker 1: could be. I don't have the exact numbers, but just

536
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: conceptually thinking of teams rosters, it feels like it's that way.

537
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 2: I think it also could be like a correlation causation

538
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: thing happening in your brain, because if the teams that

539
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: again are poor, big huge massive air quotes right now,

540
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: there's a good chance many of them, not all of them,

541
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Speaker 2: because some teams are very good at this, A good

542
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: chance many of them are spending less money, you're revere

543
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Speaker 2: on things like development, possibly things like scattering, things like

544
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: extra coaches the lower levels. So it's probably just less

545
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 2: of a hit rate for those guys. Again, they have

546
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 2: more money to spend, but sometimes they might just be like,

547
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: we want floor over ceiling, so you spread that money

548
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: around more and then you have worse coaches, so it's

549
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: a less chance of those players hitting. Whereas the team

550
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 2: with bigger money. He was like the Mets, the Red Sox, Dodgers,

551
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 2: the Yankees. You're just putting more into all these international

552
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: players because you want to and you like you want

553
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: them to be great, and you want them to flourish.

554
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: You're willing to spend the money up front to get

555
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 2: the rewards layer down the line. We the other teams

556
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: are not. So again, this would be a fun thing

557
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 2: to study. I'm sure Baseball American perspectives has done studies

558
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: missed the past, But I think the bigger part of

559
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: the international draft is that and this Issaki situation is

560
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: that it was not that cool to all these young

561
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: Latin players who were signed in this period because this

562
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: was theoretically a bomb dropped on the two international signing periods.

563
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: Because Asaki could have signed for twenty twenty four period,

564
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: but now, of course you want more money, so we

565
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: waited to twenty twenty five period. There was a scramble

566
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: seemingly this week between the Dodgers and the Padres and

567
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: losing some of their guys because they had to decommit

568
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 2: players that they could have had signed when they were

569
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 2: like thirteen years old, which is also super fucked up

570
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: at the national system and another reason why they probably

571
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Speaker 2: would be really hard for them to implement a draft

572
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: because we're three four years ahead of this. There was

573
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Speaker 2: report that the first time the Mets got to look

574
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Speaker 2: at Eli and Panya was twenty twenty one. He was

575
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Speaker 2: born in two thousand and seven. He's was like thirteen

576
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: or fourteen years old the first time the Mets said

577
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: they got to look at him. I'm sure they were.

578
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure this is just a very nefarious thing that happens.

579
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Speaker 2: I really love that wan So had a presence this

580
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: week at the Mets Dominican Academy Dominican Republic, that he

581
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: was there talking to players as they were getting their degrees,

582
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 2: graduating from high school and college equivalency.

583
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Speaker 1: So cool.

584
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: They can see a guy like wants so and look

585
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: up to him, and that want so though, even after

586
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: becoming the highest paid athlete in the history of Earth

587
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: the world, willing to he is willing to go and

588
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: speak to these again, children who have their entire lives

589
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: ahead of them, and many of them will not hit

590
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 2: as baseball players. So it's really cool that our superstar,

591
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: as a guy who's becoming the face of our franchise,

592
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: willing to spend time down there and be an important

593
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: figure of those players. But again, that's also the problem

594
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: with this draft. I think it's so nefarious that they're

595
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 2: almost scared to bring this stuff above board because you

596
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Speaker 2: have thirteen year old signing multimillion dollar commitments with professional

597
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: baseball organizations and then you're you're stuck like you can't

598
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Speaker 2: do anything.

599
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: Well, dude, I'll never forget the story of when I

600
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Speaker 1: was at the MLB Draft combine and I was sitting

601
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Speaker 1: next to a scout. Won't name the team or anything

602
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: like that, but I was sitting next to a scout

603
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Speaker 1: for a certain team. Very obvious. He was wearing the

604
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: team stuff everywhere, and he's on the phone in Spanish,

605
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: and knowing enough Spanish, I could hear what he was saying,

606
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: and he was telling whoever he was on the phone with, screaming, saying,

607
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: you need to tell them you are fifteen years old.

608
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: You need to tell them you were fifteen. I was like, so,

609
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: this is either an older guy that he wants to

610
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: sign but they won't sign because he's too old, so

611
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Speaker 1: he wants to be younger, or this is someone who's

612
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: really young and they want to sign him before he

613
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: actually starts to hit like maturity level and puberty. It

614
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: seems like it's so corrupt, it's so crazy. It's also

615
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: like weirdly like beneficial for these guys too, Like you

616
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Speaker 1: can't blame them at all for wanting to do this.

617
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Speaker 2: On the player side, Yeah, no, it's totally the devil,

618
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: you know. And it gives the opportunity for a lot

619
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Speaker 2: of i don't know, relatively like very very poor children

620
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Speaker 2: to give their families like generational wealth.

621
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Speaker 1: Like that's something that's insane. Ellion Payina, regardless of where

622
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Speaker 1: he grew up, what he is is now a seventeen

623
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Speaker 1: year old who just received five million dollars from the

624
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: New York Mets. What would you do growing up in Westfield,

625
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Speaker 1: New Jersey with five million dollars a very affluent town.

626
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: When I was seventeen, I don't know, like I might

627
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: not be here right now. Would handed me five million

628
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: dollars at that time. But also, like we pooh pooh

629
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Speaker 2: the fact that I think the lowest bonus that can

630
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: be given hour the minimums what like ten thousand dollars

631
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Speaker 2: something like that. It's ten to five or one thousand dollars.

632
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: That's probably a life changing amount of money for these

633
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: players who are considered after thoughts and for these international

634
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Speaker 2: bids international like pool players we've heard got like one

635
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: more floors, be like, and you've talked about this too.

636
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: I think in the college class you took, you're dropping

637
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: young kids from the Megican Republic, Venezuela, whoever country signed

638
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: them to into places like Savannah, Georgia, used to the Appalasia,

639
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: the Mountain West, and you're like, here, here's a host family.

640
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: You want to play baseball, be away from your family,

641
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: learn English, and figure out food every single day? Like what,

642
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: Like it's such a crazy system happens. I think it

643
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: would be again, But I also know I don't know

644
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: enough about to say. I think the international draft would better,

645
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Speaker 2: Like I would love to talk to people who are

646
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Speaker 2: experts on this matter. We have experience, like boots on

647
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Speaker 2: the ground, hands in the dirt with stuff like this,

648
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: because I don't really feel comfortable commenting on what's better

649
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: or worse based on just surface level. We know, but

650
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 2: just from this outside looking in, the system is completely batchit.

651
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: Crazy, It's crazy. It's insane. No, it's and what was it?

652
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: In an article last year? I think by the Athletic

653
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: that like talked about it even more in depth than

654
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: we've even known. We're like, this is legitimately insane. Now

655
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: that being said, someone got a ton in trouble earlier

656
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: this offseason. I forgot what team it was before lying

657
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: about someone's age. Who was it? But it was a

658
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: story that was swept away so quickly. Yeah, of course

659
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: it was because it's a bad look and Major League

660
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: Baseball doesn't want that. I don't blame them, that being said.

661
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: Ellien Paana five million dollars biggest bonus ever given to

662
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: a Mets international free agent. The largest was actually last

663
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: year Giovanni Rodriguez A two point eight Alvarez was also

664
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: a previous high at two point seven million dollars. Just

665
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: for reference, our whole bonus pool was six point two million,

666
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: so he got basically all of it. The Mets had

667
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: one point two million to spread around the rest. That

668
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: being said, he's considered to be one of the top

669
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: prospects in this international class. He's seventeen years old, so

670
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: he's a little bit older than a lot of these

671
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: guys even sign at sometimes sometimes they signed at sixteen.

672
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: But he had a birthday, I believe, in October, so

673
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: he's a young seven team. What's really cool is that

674
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: he got a sixty five hit grade according to MOB

675
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: Pipeline and the most recent prospects they got sixty five

676
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: hit grade on the field Wander Franco vlag Guerrero Junior.

677
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: Two amazing hitters, Two amazing prospects too, literally possibly the

678
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: best prospects that we've had in the modern time, Like

679
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: two of the best ones off the field, bad on

680
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: the field, sick.

681
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also think it's important to ground people

682
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: and understand how much of a crapshoot the international bonus

683
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: pool list. There's been a lot of talk today on

684
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: Twitter about how high would you rank Elia and Pania

685
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: in the Mets. In the Mets prospects, some people are

686
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: saying things like top five, one of the best prospects

687
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: in the whole league right now.

688
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: Truthfully, like there's there's.

689
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: No way that Lampania, as at a seventeen year olds

690
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: never played any professional baseball should crack the Mets top

691
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 2: eight because the Mets have like probably eight borderline top

692
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: hundred prospects. He's probably a fringy top ten prospect in

693
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: the Mets system. And just as an exercise right now,

694
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: before we talk about Panemors, I think he is very talent.

695
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: We should give him credits a player. I want to

696
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: I want to ground all you fellow Mets fans out there.

697
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to the twenty nineteen twenty twenty

698
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: International signing period, So this is about five years ago now.

699
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: A lot of these players have had a chance developed

700
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: there at least in their twenties now, and they're getting

701
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: through the minor leagues and they're becoming players who are

702
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: at least some of them, few of them approaching the

703
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 2: major league level. I'm gonna read off the top ten guys, Mark,

704
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 2: and I want you to give me and top ten

705
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: guys in terms of their bonus. I want you to

706
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: tell me, what do you think about these players, all right,

707
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: hit me okay. So number ten with the Philadelphia Phillies

708
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: waswar Garcia. Don't know a thing about him, all right,

709
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: that's a good one. Number nine the Los Angeles Dodgers

710
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: Luis Rodriguez.

711
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: Ooh, I have some of his cards. He can't hit.

712
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: There you go. This is another one.

713
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: Number eight from the Minnesota Twins, Emmanuel Rodriguez.

714
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: Dog love a bit.

715
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: Rodriguez as Number seven in the Miami Marlins. Jose Salas.

716
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think he technically might have made

717
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: the majors, but he's a glove first guy who can't

718
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: hit a lick.

719
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: Number six from the Detroit Tigers. Robertoos who Number five

720
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: from the Chicago Cubs, Ronnier Cantaro. Okay, next, by the way,

721
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: super wrong about Jose Salas. I was thinking of Jose Devers.

722
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: Jose Sawas is twenty one and still not hitting at

723
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: a ball. So that's concerning Number four in the Kansasy

724
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: the Royals, Eric Pana, I've heard the name. I had

725
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: a moment. He had a moment, A moment, the moment

726
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: for se that's it.

727
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: He's had a moment.

728
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: Number three from the Texas Rangers Byron Laura.

729
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he was a part of a

730
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: car accident off the field. He was a big prospect,

731
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: but he was not great on the field.

732
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: Number two from the formerly Oakland Athletics, Robert plass On.

733
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a good chance that mirror you could

734
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: shrek out Robert pass On. That guy's that guy. I

735
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: feel so bad because he was like he was neck

736
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: and neck with it. I think one's gonna be Jason

737
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: de Mangez right number one, Jason Demegaz Yankees. That was

738
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: like a huge debate in the card community. It was like,

739
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Chason Dominguez, Yankee, you gotta get his card, Robert Paul

740
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: Boston stop shortstop. He's the value guy out in Oakland.

741
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna be just as good. I'll tell you this.

742
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: I think I said this last year. This is my

743
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: crazy take about him. And with the A's I was like,

744
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: you just just call him up and see what he's got.

745
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: He had too much hype. What do you got to

746
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: lose if you give him a week in the majors

747
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: instead of like playing Nick Allen again for the one

748
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: hundredth time, who can't hit? See if Boston can figure

749
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: out the majors. He can't see you later, goodbye, buddy, Like,

750
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't know why teams don't do.

751
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: That more right, but I'm just telling you, like if

752
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: we just want to frame it that, oh yeah, just

753
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: because though bad though, yeah yeah, just because you're the

754
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: top international prospect. And again again I'm gonna get panias

755
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: Flower scouts love him. He has a compact swing. I

756
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: saw him comp to Rafael Devers by Francis Romero like

757
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: he and like that's also for the crowd there.

758
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: People are like, how.

759
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: Can we sign a short stop with Francisco Lindor? Every

760
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: single one of these again, children are shortstops.

761
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: He's seventeen, What do you mean for more years Francisco

762
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: Lindor will be How old will Lindor be in four years?

763
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: He'll be thirty five? That's guest case scenario. He comes

764
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: up by twenty one.

765
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: I saw someone killing Michael Mahyer for being like, can't

766
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: believe the mess was signed a short stop with Lindor

767
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: and the teams like every every single of these children

768
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: as the short stop. Michael Bher said that No, Like

769
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 2: someone was grilling Michael Mayer saying that he was like okay,

770
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: he's smart, Like I expects to have a take like that. No,

771
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: but again crazy bat speed mark you said about the

772
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: sixty five hit grade, that was only wandering flaggy and

773
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: like there's also again a lot of these international periods,

774
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: the top prospect is awesome. Why of Franco's top international prospect,

775
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: Larry mcgrae is the top got the top five contract,

776
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: Luis Robert doesn't really count, but like he was the

777
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: top he was the top signing one time in the

778
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: international period. So like yo, all in Mankada, I know,

779
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: we get different, but like again that's it technically worked out.

780
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: He got to the major leagues. But it's there's such

781
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: a long road for these again, I'll say it for

782
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: like the twelve time children. Yeah, we can't really expect

783
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: the world from these one more time children.

784
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: One thing I will say is when you look at

785
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: the guys that have hit, they do tend to have

786
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: out of any of the tools that grade well for

787
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: guys that end up being those guys, it is always

788
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: a hit tool. First. It is not the easiest thing

789
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: to necessarily teach someone who's a horrible hitter to just

790
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: be like, hey, now hit professional caliber pitching. That's really hard.

791
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: So when you look at guys like even that have

792
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: busted out, a lot of them had forty five to

793
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: fifty hit grade, you were really relying on the upside

794
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: that they'd fill into their body figure things out because

795
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: you liked what you saw totally.

796
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: And there was some great It was a great article

797
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: on the Athletic by Will sam And that was talking

798
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: about pain and everything he does well. He had quote

799
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: from Steve Barningham, who was a Mets formers guying director

800
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: until last year, and he said, when I first saw him,

801
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, Yeah, that's the best player in

802
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: this class. There's no doubt in my mind that was

803
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: the best player in this class. It's not even close.

804
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: And they talked about Tommy Tannis was also I think

805
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: the one mess guy.

806
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Director for a wild I think, yeah, yeah.

807
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: Both former guys. This is the package we all look for.

808
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: Someone who controls the strike zone. When he hits the baseball,

809
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: he actually does a lot of damage with it, so

810
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: you have to pitch him carefully. He's going to have

811
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: a chance to be a high end base guy. He's

812
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: going to have a chance to be a power guy.

813
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: When you have this, it's rare There's another quote later

814
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: from from Tennis. I said, if he's in the major

815
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: leage me twenty years old, I don't.

816
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: Think anybody would be surprised.

817
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: Barningham that said, this guy's back to Bosco said, what

818
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: you see for a top five pick in the in

819
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball Draft, one of these guys from

820
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: a who's a one in every five years type of

821
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: player in the international.

822
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: Un that's all again, sixty five hit tool doesn't happen

823
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: a lot for these international free agent guys very often.

824
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: The last two pretty dang good.

825
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has he has a chance to be

826
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: super special. They just definitely give the kid a break

827
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: and let's see how he plays against professionals first.

828
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: Always, Yeah, there's there's a huge amount of improvement and

829
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: development that needs to happen for us to honestly, truthfully

830
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: give a shit at all about this kid.

831
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: And again, he is awesome right now, Like he's going

832
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: he's going to be again like probably a fringing Mets

833
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: top ten prospect immediately.

834
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: But let's let's let's let's see what happens. Yeah, like

835
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: Leo Dallas Derees, what they call him, is he the mutant?

836
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Is that what they call him, El mutanh Yeah, whatever

837
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: they call him. Was one of the coolest sick names ever.

838
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: He had a lot of hype. He got the A ball,

839
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: started the year incredibly slow at a super young age,

840
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: then turned it on, turned it on. You're like, oh shit,

841
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: now this is the guy. Sebastian Walcott, another young guy,

842
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: started slow, turned it on.

843
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: Then you have Salace Ethan Solace. He was a he

844
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: was a five point six million dollar bonus. He's considered

845
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: like the can't miss off can't miss and he even

846
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: has had some really big trees. Again, he's playing double

847
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: A baseball, like eighteen years old. He literally obscene, like

848
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: he's a college freshman playing in Double A baseball. It's

849
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: it's as stupid as hell, like Jose Perdomo, who was

850
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: a five million dollar guy last year, the highest guy

851
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: in the whole thing. K Graves, Yeah, sixty hit grade.

852
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: But again it's it's just these are very young children.

853
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: It takes a very long time. I would tell that sentence, Hey,

854
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: our children, It doesn't they our children. I want to

855
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: say as many times as possiblely cant so lots of

856
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: these are kids. Like if there's a seventeen year old

857
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: playing high school baseball somewhere. You're not grilled into him

858
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: being like this is one of the best prospects in baseball.

859
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: No, it just can't be. So it's just I don't know.

860
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: In one year's time, let's think about let's let's think

861
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: about Eliam Panna. But right now, let the kid enjoy

862
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 2: his day.

863
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: Yes, no, let him enjoy it. Congratulations to him and

864
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: his family. Five million dollars a shit ton of money,

865
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: just changed a lot of lives over there.

866
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: Congratulate, Congratulations the rest of the Mets class tic.

867
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Yes, we will probably have someone on to talk more

868
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: about this on another episode, but truthfully, right now just

869
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: don't have the information for you guys. We're not gonna

870
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: lie and pretend like we do. No, and then that's okay. Yeah,

871
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 1: it's really okay. To wrap up the episode, a little

872
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: more bullpen talk for you, We've got some new projections

873
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: out there. We saw some of you guys were either

874
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: dead in agreemance with us of like, wow, yes, this

875
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: is exactly what the mess thing to do with the bullpen,

876
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: or no, you're an idiot. You gotta sign Tanner Scott,

877
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: which again I still can't ripe my head around that

878
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: take whatsoever? But got some new projections James, what do

879
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: those projections say about this Mets bullpen? Also, what did

880
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: we learn about Reed Garrett versus Tanner Scott that we

881
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: got to tell the people? Well? Two things.

882
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: First, the oopsie model came out on Fangrass. I want

883
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: to shout the oopsie models done by Jordan Rosenbloom, who

884
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: I don't know to call him a colleague or a friend,

885
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: I can mean some fantasy baseball leagues with him to

886
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: do this stupid smart He's ridiculous.

887
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: The project it pulls a lot of what most other projection.

888
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: Midles have, but it adds a lot more stuff plus,

889
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: which is the mile you know, Sarahs and Ethan Moore

890
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: came out with a couple of years ago that we

891
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: saw a in the show. Max Bay was part of

892
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: that two is now back working with the Dodgers. It's

893
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: a I don't know. I think it takes the projection

894
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: model a few years to know how good is because

895
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 2: you just want to see how it stacks up against

896
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: real results. But if you subscribe to the Athletic, you've

897
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: been getting what were the first the first inklings of

898
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: this projection model last few years because Eno and Jordian

899
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: would put them out on a spreadsheets they would send

900
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: out and it was really good for pitching. I've used

901
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: their Fantasy Baseball last few years. It winds up being

902
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: it winds up being one of the one of my

903
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: favorite tools user baseball for projecting pictures. So the fact

904
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: that that's being looped in this model, I tend to

905
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: think it has a really good chance for projecting pictures

906
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: because a lot of the other models atc the bad Steamer,

907
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: it does better with hithers than pitchers, and this model loopsie,

908
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: which pulls a lot of stuff. Plus it said the Mets,

909
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: as currently constructed have the seventh best bullpen by ERA plus,

910
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: which takes ERA and naturalize it for a lead context

911
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: and stay and where you're playing. Seventh best ballpen in

912
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: baseball as currently constructed, better than the Mariners, better than

913
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: the Braves, better than the Dodgers, better than the Oriols,

914
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: better than the Rays, the seventh best bullpen in base which,

915
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: again I that would be ambitious even by my standard. Yes,

916
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: but it loves Edwin Diaz, it loves Dad Neil Noonyez,

917
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: and it loves our boy, read Garrett as it should.

918
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 1: They're all good pictures. The funny thing because we were

919
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: talking about and we're gonna have an episode out in

920
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks or at some point in the

921
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: next three weeks when James goes away on vacation, but

922
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna have an episode going over to the Mets Killers.

923
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: We're making a Mets Killer bracket. And just like through

924
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: our four hour long conversation we had just figuring out

925
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: the names, this came up and we were laughing because

926
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: a lot of the conversation was like, read Garrett's not

927
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: a major league picture, Like, you guys are idiots. You

928
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. Read Garrett had a

929
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: higher k rate, lower walk rate last year than Tanner Scott.

930
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: The only thing you're looking at is RRA And I

931
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: get it. I understand why people look at ERA like

932
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: it totally is not valueless. It's not a stat that

933
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 1: isn't important, But the idea is that it's a little

934
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: bit more random and when at the end of the day,

935
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: when you look at results and things that happened, Tanner

936
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: Scott almost does nothing better than Reid Garrett, which kind

937
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: of funny because he's gonna get like twenty million dollars.

938
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: He does do a couple of things much Ben His

939
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: fastball is much benteran ridgartt He throws harder than Red Garrett.

940
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: But we're we're in a we're in a cup of

941
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: year window where Tanner Scott's not that far away from

942
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: being someone who literally walked the world and was someone

943
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: who was on the on the fringe of a bad

944
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: Marlin's roster.

945
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: It's horrendous. He was on the Orioles when they were

946
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: starting to get smart, and they said, we're good, see

947
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: you later. No, and again, I'm gonna just go through Garrett.

948
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: There were teammates.

949
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna read through some of some

950
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: of my favorite comments from from the YouTube video last week.

951
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: Howard bunnis for seven nine zero. Rid Garrett is not

952
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: elite major league pitcher. Here or here absurd comments, It's

953
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 2: okay for relievers to walk the ballpark. Read Garrett can

954
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: focus and throw strikes. Walks are runs, and walks by

955
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: relievers are the worst. And he goes through a lot

956
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: of Reed Garrett stats and he said blah blah blah

957
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: blah blah, this and that he's the righty Jake Deacman.

958
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 2: He should never throw another pitch for the mess.

959
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

960
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: The reason he does not throw strikes is that when

961
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: he does his trade fastball, gut tattooed rigaras fastball does

962
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: get pissed off. So again that part true. That's why

963
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: he goes he's split their first pitcher, and then he

964
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: goes this the two year old sixteenth round draft pick

965
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: will be fine at Syracuse. Here's another great one here.

966
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: I think Stern's has been a great GM for the Wolpons.

967
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: He still acts like we're in the poorhouse.

968
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: It's like, do you realize that we should be spending

969
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: on the bullpen like you guys want us to. Again,

970
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: by the way, Garrett three seventy right, very serviceable. If

971
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: you want to even get like upset about just ra

972
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: numbers three seven is not bad by any means. You

973
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: take that in your bullpen all year long. Also, Tanner

974
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: Scott is the better reliever? Is he fifteen twenty million

975
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: dollars better than Reid? Garrett's gonna be next year? I

976
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: don't I don't think any relievers almost are going to be.

977
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: No, we're not saying the Mets would be not a

978
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: better baseball team with thy Garrett, of course, they'd be

979
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: so much such a better basis Sam, Yeah, of course.

980
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: But it's just this comes back to Tanner Scott, my bad.

981
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: It circles back to the conversation that we had at

982
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: the top of the show, where when you're running this team,

983
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: and more or less when you're chasing the Dodgers, you

984
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: need to kind of save your.

985
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: Bullets for the right opportunities. I mean, just think about

986
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: the idea that, like, I think Vlad again is like

987
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollars and Tanner Scott looks like he's

988
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: gonna be around twenty. You're telling me that the value

989
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: that Vlad Junior is gonna bring is only eight million

990
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: dollars more than Tanner Scott for what this team could do.

991
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: There's no world. I don't care what the war numbers

992
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: say at that point. I was just there.

993
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: I think there's also a world where Tanner Scott's not

994
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: as safe of an option as people think. Yeah, he doesn't,

995
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: because again we're only a few years away from him

996
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: being like a fringy pitcher. He's really figured out the

997
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: command recently more so, but him figuring out command is

998
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: still a relief pitcher that has like one of the

999
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: twenty highest walk rates in all of baseball. So in

1000
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: saying that again, if all the reasons you don't like

1001
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: re Garrett, that means you probably shouldn't really like Tanner Scott. Like,

1002
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: this isn't Edward Diez, this is not Josh either. This

1003
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: isn't a manual class. This isn't someone who can put

1004
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: in the end of the game and be like, I'm

1005
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: one hundred percent confidence you going forward for years on end.

1006
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: Just this was he wasn't even the closer in San Diego, right, I.

1007
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: Mean the coldes San Diego might be available to the

1008
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: rumors that that that night after right after we dropped

1009
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: the episode, came out that Robert Suarez potentially is available

1010
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: in the trademarkt who Again. I think he's someone to

1011
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: being a lot of fun, But this isn't This isn't

1012
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: like a true quintessential moster reliever. I think tenn Scott's amazing.

1013
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: I think next year he's probably one of the ten

1014
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: best leaders in baseball. The year after its a good

1015
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: chances as well. But he's probably not that much different

1016
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 2: than the guys the Mets already have and you could

1017
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: probably fill in the gaps more with guys, like with

1018
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: probably two relievers like Ryan Stanley and David Robertson rather

1019
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: than just the one Tanner Scott Wich. I think it's

1020
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: probably more beneficial for how this Mets bullpen's currently constructed.

1021
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: And truthfully, like you said, with how this Mets bullpen's

1022
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: currently constructed, we need more arms. It's not like we're

1023
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: missing one. We need more. We need more good pictures

1024
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: rather than one good picture. And we got a new

1025
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: guy for the glob of Chaos on Wednesday. Oh yeah,

1026
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: what was his name, Austin Warren.

1027
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: Austin Warren. He's got a really good slider. I think

1028
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: it's acused more sweeper because it moves a lot. And

1029
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: he also has the three fastball thing. Just like I said,

1030
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: the Mets like so, I mean again, David's listening. We

1031
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: know that, but it's just again, it's about having the

1032
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: glob of chaos and having a couple of guys who

1033
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: trust in the back. We have to kind of two

1034
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: and a half guys, three ish guys we trust in

1035
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: the back right now. As the glob of chaos grows,

1036
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: we probably I would like one or two more guys

1037
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: middle relief who have lady experience, and then you just

1038
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 2: you build from there. And again it's very funny. We're

1039
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: kind of being tongue in cheek. But the fact that

1040
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: the projection model that that has been really good with

1041
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: projecting pitchers the last few years just became public this

1042
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: week and the Mets have the seventh fast ball pen.

1043
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: And baseball in it. What two nerds know? He nerds

1044
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: know nothing. I watched every game last year and they

1045
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: walked in the runs. Now, they did make it to

1046
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: the NFCS with a bad pitching staff, so say say

1047
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: what you want about that, but they could have won

1048
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: the World Series if they didn't walk guys as much

1049
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: as they did last year. Okay, yeah, well you gotta

1050
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: get a far high horse there.

1051
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: The one thing that kills me about all this these

1052
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: people should talking David Searns is that this trope that

1053
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: he had nothing to do with the Mets sounding one.

1054
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: So though it's crazy, how could that, how could that

1055
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: be possible? The President Baseball Operations wasn't involved in the

1056
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: biggest contract of sport and any sport has ever seen

1057
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: people like that was all so Cohen, No, it wasn't

1058
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: who was in every single meeting. You think with Steve Cohen,

1059
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: like with he is the president of Baseball Operations, every

1060
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: single thing that happens is if anyone in the organization breeds,

1061
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: David Sturts knows about.

1062
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: It, and one start talked so much about how he

1063
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: loved where the organization is heading along with the seven

1064
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: million dollars the vision. Who's who's got the laser rise

1065
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: right now? With the vision, it's David Stearns. That It's

1066
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: it starts and ends with him. There's nobody else. Can

1067
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: you can you name the people under him making decisions?

1068
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: I can't.

1069
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: Ben z Asmara, guys coming up, He's ready, he's locked in,

1070
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: and they still.

1071
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, we're not going to hire a GM again.

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00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: They're doing it again. You want Western the sleeve one?

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Speaker 2: I mean again, Like, I think it's worth being focused

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Speaker 2: on the Mets vision. We know a lot of other

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00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: baseball podcasts out there are spending thirty forty fifty sixty

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Speaker 2: minutes only focused on the Mets, even if they might

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00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: not be a show that covers the Mets. So I think, again,

1078
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: all eyes are always on the Mets. But it's I

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00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: think it's just kind of a thing where the Met

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00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: we as METS fans.

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Speaker 1: That happened.

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00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: You and I too, like we've been part of this,

1083
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: Like you get it, you get a sugar high. Oh major,

1084
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: we ate, we ate the chocolate chip cookie that was

1085
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: the size of the fucking Empire State Building in the

1086
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: beginning of December, and now we're like, I need another

1087
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: fucking hit at this thing. So that's kind of what's

1088
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: happened in the fact that we have a little freeze

1089
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: right now, but everyone's freezing.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I think.

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00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: I just think there's still work to be done in

1092
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: this team. Confident the work will get done, and I'm

1093
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: really confident that the guy's making decisions.

1094
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: That is David Stearns fingers crossed. It's March seventeenth, and

1095
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: Tanner Scott's still available, and that's when David stern strikes.

1096
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Speaker 1: That's it.

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00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: I again, two for thirty I'm all in on Tanner Scott.

1098
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: Two thirty two for thirty seven and a half one

1099
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: hundred percent to forty four for sixty four for eighty range.

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Speaker 1: Hell no no.

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Speaker 2: If there's a fourth year, I'm out. If it's a

1102
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Speaker 2: third year, I think about it, but I'd be a

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00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: little scared, but again we got time.

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Speaker 1: Guys. It's the middle of January. It's literally my birthday today,

1105
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: January fifteenth. We have two and a half months until

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Speaker 1: opening day, so.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, everybody makes you say happy birthday, the mark, thank you,

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Speaker 2: and that's it.

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Speaker 1: I think we're good, all right. Thank you guys so

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Speaker 1: much for listening and watching this episode The Mets the Podcast.

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Speaker 1: for listening and watching it. We'll catch you all on

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