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Because I don't believe in coincidences. 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: Haiti's been under attack for a couple of centuries. You 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: don't have to go down to conspiracy theory, Aisle, but 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: who do you think is behind this coordinated attack? 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: I definitely won't go down conspiracy theory. I'll just bring 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: just pure facts. 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: Right. So if you've seen the Marines. 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 4: Have occupied Haiti, I think it was nineteen fourteen, you know, 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 4: we could keep going with the history. Then we had 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 4: the dictator right, we had popping dot right, and we 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: could see that this pattern of Haiti all the way 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 4: today is Haiti has been failed in policy making through 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: corruption of the politics that's constantly influenced right by outside forces. 33 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 4: And what that means is they're not in the level 34 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: of negotiating. They're always on the level of greed, so 35 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 4: they think of greed before the actual people. 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: Right. So again I always say this, and I say 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: this strongly. 38 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: Right, if I need help in my house, I have 39 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: to be able to fix my house, and I have 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 4: to weave out certain players. 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: And the thing is, I feel. 42 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: That the people of Haiti, through the diaspora through us 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: have to get stronger and making certain decisions on who 44 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: the actors are going to be moving forward, sort of 45 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: like the Twilight Zone. It's a constant episode where you know, 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: we know something weird it's going to happen at the 47 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: very end. And this has been the pattern of Haiti. 48 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: And understand is the legislation pieces the most important. I 49 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: think that as we move towards Haiti, we have to 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 4: get to the center. And what I mean by that 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 4: everything for Haiti thus far have been a left movement, like. 52 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: A super left movement in the House of Representative. 53 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: I don't know too many Republicans that ever talk about 54 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 4: had So I think that we have to get in 55 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: the center because the policies are still being shaped in 56 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: parts of it out of Washington, d C. Right, So 57 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 4: I look at us within the United States, and I 58 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: say that within North America, I feel that we can 59 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: do much more by looking at Congress and looking at 60 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: who's the ambassadors of Haiti? 61 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: What are these laws? Right? 62 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: So you have like Alligar families that leave Haiti and 63 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: go to Washington, D C. And they are the ones 64 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: that help shape policies. So how do we start participating 65 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: in that? So again, I think that it's a contribution 66 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: of us here in the stage. I think it's a 67 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: contribution of you know, powers that have a lot of 68 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: money want to see Haiti in this position. 69 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Why a few things. 70 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 4: I think that if we get to act together, one 71 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: of the things that we can focus on is our 72 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: natural resources. 73 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: Right. 74 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 4: So, despite what they told you about Haiti, I sent 75 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: you all two articles. I think one is the New 76 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: York Times. They'll give you a perspective of where we at. 77 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 4: Not that I always believe what's in the New York Times, 78 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: but this one is actually accurate. 79 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: And then the second one was. 80 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: A Forbes article, which is interesting to show you, amongst 81 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: all the disaster, how much natural resources that we have. 82 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: So these are some of the things that we do have. 83 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 4: And again Haiti high elevated land, we do have a 84 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 4: constant you know, traffic of constant drugs moving around. It's 85 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: like the babysitting capitol cocaine right now in the Caribbean. 86 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: So these are some of the things that we have 87 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: to fight. 88 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 5: So, yes, you mentioned the New York Times article, so 89 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 5: I want to reference it because obviously anybody knows that 90 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 5: Ernie Lisias is a financial platform, right, So the history 91 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: of Haiti is extremely interesting when it comes to finances, right, 92 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 5: So I want to just kind of go down a timeline. 93 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 5: So seventeen ninety one, Haiti becomes the first country, in 94 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 5: the only country actually in world history to ever successfully 95 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 5: be formed from a slavery volt. Right, they beat the French, 96 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 5: overthrew the French slaves slave re volt and became an 97 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 5: independent nation. Now a lot of people were not aware 98 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 5: that as a result of them gaining independence, they were 99 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 5: forced to pay France reparations. From my understanding, Napoleon they 100 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: put the ships at the shore, and they were really 101 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: kind of at you know, is one of these situations 102 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: where they couldn't really go about not having to strike 103 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 5: that deal. So for their independence, they struck that deal 104 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 5: as far as the reparations, So the reparations lasted for generations, 105 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 5: and they said billions billions of dollars were actually drained 106 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,559 Speaker 5: out of the Asian economy and pumped into France, which 107 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 5: actually helped build the Eiffel Tower. This is part of 108 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 5: the New York Times article. And then they actually talk 109 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 5: about Wall Street benefiting from Haiti as well as far 110 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 5: as you had mentioned that the occupation. One of the 111 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: companies that they said is actually you know, one of 112 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: the drum beats and started as a result of that 113 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 5: became City Group obviously fortune five hundred company, one of 114 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 5: the biggest companies in the world. Right, and then years 115 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 5: later President when the president actually had started a call 116 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 5: for reparations from France and he was ousted as a result. 117 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 5: And then you talk about, like you said, you know, 118 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: politicians being murdered and unstable government. So when you see 119 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 5: statistics of like you know, it's it's similar as far 120 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 5: as okay, we talk about the wealth gap in America, right, 121 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 5: and we say, okay, well, black people only own one 122 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 5: percent of the wealth. Well, there's a historical reason why 123 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 5: that's happening. It's not just that people are lazy and 124 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 5: that they're just incompetent. You had the Freeman Bank, you 125 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 5: had redlining, you had Jim Crow. So there's hundreds of 126 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: years that have got us to this point. The same 127 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 5: with haities. Look at Haiti. You say, okay, well, Haiti 128 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 5: is the poorest country in this hemisphere and they're very 129 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 5: low on the economic spectrum. Well that's for a reason, right, 130 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 5: you have when you had to pay reparations to one 131 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 5: of the most powerful countries in the world for one 132 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty years and your natural resources was taken 133 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 5: from you and you was occupied. Well, now you can 134 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 5: kind of see why there's such level of instability in 135 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 5: the country. So I wanted to just kind of give 136 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 5: that historical timeline and I'll let you talk about it 137 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 5: as well, Cleft, because I think it's important for people 138 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 5: to understand the history because a lot of times, like 139 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 5: I said, the media just portrays now, but they never 140 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 5: talk about how and why we actually got to this point. 141 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and again this is why I pointed towards 142 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: the New York Times article. 143 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: But let's break it down in a nutshell. 144 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: This first Black Republic basically shut down Napoleon, which is 145 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: the greatest army at the time of the world. Think 146 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: of it like Napoleon was its own Roman Empire, if 147 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 4: that makes sense. And in this process I call it 148 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 4: the extortion fee, right, because this guy's powerful, be like, yo, 149 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: y'all don't want me. 150 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: To come back. 151 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: We're gonna keep these boats here, y'all gonna keep paying me, 152 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: and something interestedn't happen. Right, So a leader roles. Years later, right, 153 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: a leader rises and he goes, Okay, I want France 154 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: to start to pay reparation. And in this process, the 155 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 4: leader gets out like, now that ain't gonna happen. What 156 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 4: I want us to do is we got to look 157 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: at how do we move forward? 158 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Right? And a lot of people be like, yo. 159 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 4: Man, you're so optimistic, man, Like, how can you stay 160 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 4: like that? 161 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: Right? 162 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: So for me, I would say one of the things 163 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: that keep me optimistic is having a chance to to 164 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 4: fly to South Africa and spending some time with the 165 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: late great Nelson Mandel and having those one or ones 166 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: with him and you know, picking his brain. 167 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: Right. 168 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: And then one of the things he said was like, 169 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, once we stopped the dream stop. 170 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 4: And I feel that in the position that we're in today, 171 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 4: this exchange of information that we're doing right now is 172 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: part of where the future of Haiti is going to 173 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: head into, right, because to get Haiti out of what 174 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 4: it's in right now, it's no difference than when I. 175 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: Was doing the the. 176 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: The Tia thing and we was talking about fifty four 177 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: percent of black and browns don't have a retirement plan, right, 178 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: they don't know where they're gonna land, right. So we 179 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: find this these informations subject to what country you in 180 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: in different but different actors, but stories are always similar, right, 181 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: so as we move forward, the focus has to be 182 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 4: how do we get back to economical freedom? 183 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: And what I've learned with Nelson Mandelan's. 184 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: As he's speaking, to get back to economical freedom has 185 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 4: to be a unification. 186 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: They can't be a unification. 187 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 4: With Black Americans and Haitians, which I don't even use 188 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: the words. I just call all of us Africans FYI, 189 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: But I use these words to tell you they can't 190 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: be a connection. 191 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: Hunt. There's a real connection with. 192 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 4: Africa, right because Africa is US and it's the next 193 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 4: superpower where everything is going. So now you have these 194 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: kids that are trading very fast. As y'all can see, 195 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: Nigeria is just up and and up and in and 196 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: in the in the stock market if you follow different 197 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: things that's going in going on this with my Marcus 198 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 4: Gardie eyes, I've just been looking at it and been saying, Okay, 199 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 4: the way out of this is going to be what. 200 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: Is the trade for trade? 201 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: What is going to make people feel that Haitians are valuable, 202 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: like we valuable, like we bring something to the world stage. Right, 203 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: we Black Americans, we're valuable as a whole. We bring 204 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: something to the world stage. And I think that that's 205 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: going to take that unification of all of us, and 206 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: then saying that to get to economical freedom, we have 207 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 4: to be in control of our natural resources. Again, this 208 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: is where it lies. Our natural resources will allow us 209 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: to be able to create trade for trade and focus 210 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 4: on exporting and also growing in our own country so 211 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: that we don't have to rely on rice stock and 212 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 4: the different things. 213 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: Right. 214 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: Focus with companies that are willing to bring machineries into 215 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: these countries. Look at the banking structure, working on that, 216 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 4: you know, revolutionizing that to to how do we move 217 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: into the digital world of the twenty first century. 218 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: So these are some of. 219 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 4: The things that that we're looking at as a small 220 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: group the New Diosporal, which is a small collective that 221 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: are putting together. 222 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 6: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 223 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 6: in Massagets, an MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 224 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 6: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 225 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 6: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. 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